[09:32] <natefinch> morning fwereade_
[11:28] <fwereade_> natefinch, heyhey
[11:29] <natefinch> fwereade_: so, do we have a mechanism for charms to say what version of juju they're compatible with?  My guess is the answer is "no" and that some people will have a heart attack at the thought.
[11:30] <fwereade_> natefinch, so, I wrote this a while back: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1lV6Vlqj3VlOXPLZD1T4vV865Ab16YgIJivyWnZXdhCo/edit
[11:31] <fwereade_> natefinch, it seemed pretty uncontroversial -- but equally we've, uh, ocmpletely failed to explicitly schedule it
[11:33] <fwereade_> natefinch, and, yeah, it's important for a lot of things
[11:33] <natefinch> fwereade_: seems like it
[11:34] <fwereade_> natefinch, so, dammit, we need to get it done somehow, and probably backported to older versions
[11:35] <natefinch> fwereade_: well, my team is doing the charmers pain points, seems like it could go to us.  Doesn't seem terribly difficult from a 10,000 foot view.
[11:36] <fwereade_> natefinch, I don't think it should be
[11:36] <fwereade_> natefinch, there will probably be some devils in the details
[11:36] <natefinch> fwereade_: there usually are.
[11:36] <fwereade_> natefinch, in particular it onvolves charm store work
[11:36] <fwereade_> natefinch, which will need some extra coordination
[11:37] <natefinch> fwereade_: hmm... that's unfortunate.  I had hoped we could get away with keeping the changes only in core.... but yeah, I guess not.
[11:39] <fwereade_> natefinch, ok, so, I think this is a prerequisite for a bunch of things your team will want to be involved with
[11:40] <fwereade_> natefinch, when do you think you can get it scheduled? and would you start a conversation with rick_h__ (?) about how to coordinate the charm store stuff?
[11:41] <natefinch> fwereade_: I'm going to start on it ASAP.  Since it's required for the default-hook stuff, I might as well get going on it right now.
[11:41] <natefinch> fwereade_: I'll coordinate with Rick on it.
[11:43] <fwereade_> natefinch, cool
[11:44] <fwereade_> natefinch, do a first pass over the spec looking for places I get it completely hilariously wrong
[11:44] <fwereade_> natefinch, there will almost certainly be at least one
[11:45] <fwereade_> natefinch, you've aleady got edit on that doc I think
[11:45] <natefinch> fwereade_: yep, looks like it.  Thanks.
[11:50] <natefinch> fwereade_: gotta run. Will keep you up to date, though.
[15:58] <rick_h__> fwereade_: cool on the feature flags, will comment on the doc some