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CrypticBytedoes anyone know if kubuntu has the ability to have a global menu.  I know kde does since version 4.10 but i'm courious to know if the global menu has gtk2/3 support in kubuntu01:03
CrypticBytedoes anyone know if kubuntu has the ability to have a global menu.  I know kde does since version 4.10 but i'm courious to know if the global menu has gtk2/3 support in kubuntu01:41
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SamwiseGamgeeIf I boot up a live CD, Kubuntu 14.04, can I install anything without affecting the hard drive?07:28
SamwiseGamgeeI mean if I go to "Try and Decide" using the live CD07:29
PibbleSamwiseGamgee: The live cd is self contained. So Im pretty sure you cant install anything beyond what packages are included07:45
SamwiseGamgeeyeah, I guess someone gave me some bad advice07:45
PibbleYou can however make a live USB stick and you should be able to add any packages you need when creating it07:45
SamwiseGamgeeoh, yeah, I think holstein told me to use a live CD to experiment with shutter, to see if I like it07:46
SamwiseGamgeebut the Windows guys told me I can't install anything when using a Live CD, so I don't know why he told me that07:47
PibbleYou should be able to "install" the package onto the ram drive, if you have enough space available that is.07:47
PibbleTry an apt-get for whatever you are needing and see if it goes through07:48
SamwiseGamgeeok07:48
SamwiseGamgeeis there a way to protect your hard drive when installing stuff with a live CD, because I have never used a Live CD for that stuff before07:50
PibbleNothing you do in the live cd will interact with your HDD07:51
PibbleIts isolated07:51
Pibbleunless that is, you mount your HDD and allow the OS to access it.07:51
SamwiseGamgeeDon't some Live CDs automatically mount your drives so you can access them?07:52
PibbleIts possible, but it wont install anything to the HDD. The OS is running on a RAM drive07:52
SamwiseGamgeeOk, then I will check the memory available on my RAM drive and see how many megabytes the Shutter app uses, and compare them before I try anything with the Live CD07:53
SamwiseGamgeesorry, RAM memory07:54
PibbleAye07:54
PibbleYou should be able to do it if it will allow it, but youll lose anything you do when you power down the compuer07:54
Pibblecomputer*07:54
Graf_WesterholtSamwiseGamgee, RAM stands for "ramdom access memory".07:55
SamwiseGamgeeI got 1.41 GiB of RAM07:55
SamwiseGamgeeShutter uses around 45 MB when installed07:57
SamwiseGamgeeDoes that mean I have room to install it with the live Kubuntu CD?07:57
PibbleLike I said, try it, if it lets you do it, youre golden, if not... well yeah.07:58
SamwiseGamgeeyeah, sounds like I got nothing to lose if I try it07:58
Pibbleyep yep07:58
SamwiseGamgeethanks Pibble07:58
PibbleSure thing, I hope you enjoy Kubuntu, its a great OS.07:59
SamwiseGamgeeyeah, I like it more than xubuntu, which is what I'm using now07:59
PibbleKDE is nice. :307:59
SamwiseGamgeebut Kubuntu is too heavy for this PC, it runs slower than xubuntu08:00
PibbleKDE is rather loaded. Its more of a modern GUI than XFCE for sure.08:00
PibbleIts comperable to windows 2k vs windows 708:01
SamwiseGamgeeI really miss Kubuntu08:02
SamwiseGamgeealso, the Kubuntu operators seem more friendly than the xubuntu operators08:03
PibbleEh, there are bad examples in any distro/gui/shell/OS.08:03
SamwiseGamgeeNot in my experience, I love the Kubuntu operators08:04
PibbleJust remember, open source means open to everyone, be it a rude, bad mannered person, or a helpful, kind person.08:04
SamwiseGamgeePibble, nice to meet a kind person, thanks08:05
lordievaderGood morning.08:25
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Naphatulwhy can't i remove nepomuk, isn't baloo suposed to do it11:40
Naphatul*it's job now?11:40
yofelwhich kubuntu release?11:42
Naphatul14.0411:42
yofelthe runtime files *should* be optional, they just have to be there for the initial migration to baloo11:43
yofelwhat exactly are you trying to remove?11:44
Naphatullibnepomuk411:44
Naphatuleverything that matches nepomuk in dpkg -l actually11:45
yofelah, that will only work in 4.14. 4.13 still has nepomuk support built into some applications, which doesn't really do anything as nepomuk isn't running11:45
Naphatulhmm well i'm running the same 4.13 on arch and it doesn't need nepomuk, guess it's a ubuntu thing11:47
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yofelnepomuk-core-runtime has the bulk of runtime files and should be removable11:47
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Naphatulis 4.14 going to be in 14.04? if so when?11:48
yofel4.13.97 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports now, 4.14.0 will be released in a few days (upgrading to that will automatically remove libnepomuk4 btw.)11:49
Naphatulgreat11:49
MartyB4Hi. Since the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 I've got the problem that logging out of KDE doesn not work. Instead the shutdown dialog is shown and after the timeout the computer goes into sleep mode. Can anyone help me?12:44
rostamHI I am using ubuntu 14.04.  accroding to dpkg --list | grep linux-image  I have two linux image installed on my system:  linux-image-3.13.0-24  and linux-image-3.13.0-32.  Currently my system has booted to later one, 3.13.0-32, How could I boot to older release, 3.13.0-24? thanks12:47
soee__rostam: when grub is loade dyou should be able to choose other version i think12:48
rostamsoee__, I have struggled with this I have used GRUB_DEFAULT="... " or set-default-.  still is not working will you please expand more  on your help...12:49
swookj #tmux12:51
swookoops12:51
swooksorry12:51
soee__rostam: i remember that after reboot GRUOB loads there is a list with some entries, first is problably Kubutnu12:57
soee__there should be also one that allows to to show list of older kernels and boot using one of them12:57
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georgelappieshi guys, it seems that the vsync setting does not stick, I have to change my renderer to opengl 2.0 and then back to 3.1 before the tearing goes away when moving windows around after a reboot13:39
soeegeorgelappies: there are huge issues with is sadly :/13:52
georgelappiessoee: isn't there a script one can run to emulate changing the renderer to opengl2.0 and back to opengl3.1 right after a boot?14:17
georgelappiesit is sad, because it definitly does work correctly after retogling the renderer, just wished that it would stick or get correctly applied on a boot up :)14:18
soeeno idea georgelappies14:22
soeelordievader: ^ any thoughts ?14:22
lordievadergeorgelappies: What card/driver?14:22
georgelappieshi lordievader, nvidia GeForce GTX 650 (GPU 0) using proprietary 331.38 from the repos14:24
georgelappiesbut the tearing is present in the opensource drivers as well14:25
georgelappiesbest way to test it is to drag a window around on the screen and look at the right side edge of the window against the wallpaper14:26
georgelappiesgoing to see if kdenlive can record it, will report back14:28
lordievaderI'm thinking a crappy driver, apart from that I have no idea.14:29
georgelappieshere is a clip showing it, the first half of the clip shows it working as it should, the second half shows it how it is after a reboot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12004103/KDE_Tearing_Clip/tearing.mpg14:46
zmityahi gents14:51
zmityaat work I have multiple monitors. I do have a panel at the very right side of the screen where my taskbar sits, this is an auto-hidden panel... Since I upgraded to 14.04 I have to click on the right screen if I want to get my panel in case when an app has the focus on the left screen..14:53
zmityais it a bug ot a feature ?14:53
pmtedWhere do I change the graphics driver to Nvidia? When you first install Kubuntu it notifies you that you can use legacy drivers, but I chose not to and now I changed my mind.15:35
Walex2pmted: there is a specific page on the Ubuntu Wiki on how to install the prepackaged nVidia binary drivers15:39
Walex2pmted: the first step is to install the right packages, because there are a few variants.15:40
Walex2zmitya: with "auto-hidden" that seems like a feature15:41
pmtedWalex2: Ah, bingo. Thanks!15:41
Walex2!nvidia15:41
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto15:41
Walex2plus many others...15:42
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Naphatulwill systemd be default in 14.10?15:47
linux_hi who can fix this16:02
linux_(cheese:3130): cheese-WARNING **: Device '/dev/video0' is busy: gstv4l2object.c(2524): gst_v4l2_object_set_format (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstWrapperCameraBinSrc:camera_source/GstBin:bin17/GstV4l2Src:video_source:16:02
linux_Call to S_FMT failed for YU12 @ 1280x720: Device or resource busy16:02
lordievader!crosspost | linux_16:03
ubottulinux_: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.16:03
linux_ok but i did not know that16:04
linux_hehh16:04
linux_Im using kubuntu so16:04
BluesKajhowdy folks16:08
linux_hey16:14
linux_anyone live16:14
RaSTuSHi BluesKaj, hi everyone16:14
linux_who want bear16:15
BluesKajhi RaSTuS16:15
linux_can someone help i use motion first 4 days and it worked after update now is broken16:16
linux_and also cheese dont work16:16
linux_it says hi who can fix this (cheese:3130): cheese-WARNING **: Device '/dev/video0' is busy: gstv4l2object.c(2524): gst_v4l2_object_set_format (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstWrapperCameraBinSrc:camera_source/GstBin:bin17/GstV4l2Src:video_source:16:16
linux_Call to S_FMT failed for YU12 @ 1280x720: Device or resource busy16:16
lordievader!patience | linux_16:17
ubottulinux_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.16:17
linux_ok lordievader do you know is there any channel where I can give ideas on inprowment of look and feel of kubuntu16:19
lordievaderlinux_: Actually I have no idea.16:21
lordievaderlinux_: Mailing list perhaps?16:21
linux_ok16:22
BluesKajlinux_, look and feel is a personal thing. What someone else likes may not be to your taste. Check system settings> application settings and workspace appearance16:23
lordievader^ that is very true. Linux is quite customizable.16:25
linux_yea but that is for newbee16:58
linux_so there are loots of places where plugin can be loaded or it can displaz other options of folder16:59
linux_of appp16:59
linux_and other things16:59
femtacHi, I want to try out out KDE 5. Can I safely install the neon/kf5 ppa repository wihout affecting the stable 14.04?18:59
femtacHow does it work after I install it? Do I switch to KDE 5 during login?19:00
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kubuntuplasma5allo?19:06
bpromptallo19:12
soeefemtac: yes, when using neon you can choose if you want to login into plasma5 or 419:19
smaudethmm, could anyone recommend to me where to look to perform an *offline* grub installation? i.e. to an external drive intended to boot in another computer19:35
smaudetproblem with grub-mkconfig is that it runs for the current system19:35
bprompthmm19:37
bpromptsmaudet:      IIRC when having it to boot from an external device.. you can just include grub in the external partition specifically  with grub-install19:38
smaudetbprompt: not sure if you understood the question, grub when it boots should be an internal system, but I'm trying to build a drive from a different system, so the grub install is external.19:40
smaudetI'm pretty sure my grub config is all screwed up on the computer I'm on at the moment as I've been telling it to look at the external drive.19:40
smaudetBut that's fine, I'll just reconfigure when I'm done building the external (before I reboot)19:40
smaudetconversely you can't pass in e.g. grub-mkconfig /dev/sdX and have it dump a config file for just that hard drive19:41
smaudetalso, to keep things simple, everything is mbr, I have no need to mess with gpt at the moment, other than for future proofing the drive (if it is transfered at some point to a computer whose bios supports gpt)19:43
smaudetI *think* the issue is three fold - the mbr I've already tested was overwritten successfully on both test drive instances, but it's pointing at a drive on this computer setup, not the one it needs when booting from another computer19:48
smaudetSo the second issue is that I'm not sure where to stick the imaginary /boot partition for the drive, and the third issue being that I don't know how to overwrite what grub-install points to when it writes its mbr record19:49
* smaudet netsplit yay19:52
bprompthehe19:52
smaudethmm...reading the manual it looks like the recommendation is to manually write the grub.cfg file...19:53
smaudetX_X19:53
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smaudetdoes anyone in here have a working windows xp multiboot by any chance (using grub)?21:50
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skinuxI've been having problems with chmod having no affect on .bin files, with or without using sudo.23:34
cyclickWhy is the 32bit version recommended over the 64bit version? (ie: what are the most popular problems?)23:50
cyclicks/problems\?/problems with the 64bit version\?/23:51

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