[02:02] <bjf> stgraber, are you demoing with trusty or utopic ?
[02:02] <bjf> stgraber, if trusty, yes 3/4 weeks. if utopic, sooner
[04:30] <stgraber> bjf: I currently run utopic with a trusty kernel because wifi sucks with the utopic one, but I don't really need wifi for the demo so I could reboot on 3.16
[18:02] <apw> stgraber, so this has been broken since before release in 3.13 and we didn't notice ?
[18:14] <stgraber> apw: no, this was broken by the last kernel upload to trusty
[18:15] <stgraber> oh, misread, sorry
[18:15] <stgraber> yeah, then, though that was in a security fix so it didn't exactly had much time to be tested in proposed
[18:15] <stgraber> or even upstream I suspect
[20:14] <israel> Hi, I have a non-PAE specific question regarding 14.04  is anyone available who understands this well enough
[20:17] <israel> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE (part C at the end) could dd 'install' 14.04 on a non-PAE machine rather than swapping out HD?
[20:35] <israel> hmmm... kinda quiet here...