[00:00] <TJ-> jeff3: The only place the monitor will be reported is by X server tools. Try "xrandr -q"
[00:00] <jeff3> It won't appear in lspci?
[00:00] <sagredo> TJ-: returns nothing
[00:00] <sagredo> TJ-: can i try to mount SDA somehow?
[00:00] <sagredo> !mount
[00:01] <cynicallemon> svetlana: the iwlwifi package in debian is in the non-free section - thats a good indication
[00:01] <svetlana> cynicallemon, ack, thanks
[00:01] <TJ-> cynicallemon: svetlana module "iwlwifi" is part of the kernel, GPL licensed, and 'free' ... there may be devices requiring non-free firmware
[00:01] <svetlana> hm ?
[00:02] <svetlana> that already contradicts things
[00:02] <svetlana> or maybe not.. hm
[00:02] <jeff3> TJ- thanks, is there a way I can use it to get and set the proper refresh rates?
[00:02] <svetlana> how do i check whether i am using non-free firmware myself on a specific machine ?
[00:02] <TJ-> svetlana: "modinfo iwlwifi | grep license"
[00:03] <svetlana> TJ-, ye, it says gpl; am i using non free firmware with that?
[00:04] <Deihmos> does ubuntu have any intention to change the UI?
[00:04] <jeff3> Somewhere I think there is a GUI that allows you to configure the monitor and X windows but I forget what it is, do you know what it is?
[00:04] <sagredo> TJ-: ?
[00:04] <Deihmos> not s fsn of the side dock
[00:04] <x_root> Deihmos, you can change.. xfce (xubuntu) for example..
[00:04] <TJ-> svetlana: possibly: "ls /lib/firmware/iwlwifi*"
[00:04] <Deihmos> those are ugly
[00:04] <sagredo> TJ-: sudo parted /dev/sda print returns nothing
[00:04] <x_root> Deihmos, tried gnome-shell?
[00:05] <TJ-> sagredo: That means the drive has lost its partition table - urgh!
[00:05] <x_root> i'm using with some extensions (simple-dock, weather) and is.. nice :D
[00:05] <svetlana> TJ-, http://dpaste.com/3MER9R1
[00:05] <TJ-> sagredo: check through "less /var/log/kern.log" and look for any I/O errors for sda.
[00:06] <TJ-> svetlana: I missed your original issue; can you restate it please?
[00:06] <TJ-> jeff3: It sounds as if the monitor is not returning EDID (Extended Display Information Description) data to the GPU. To check that, read the X server log: "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:06] <x_root> hey TJ- you know if is possible to use multi-touch support in ubuntu 14.04 (like a 3 fingers or 4 fingers support..)
[00:07] <x_root> maybe someone had answered (i asked this before) but i have to restart.. so.. =/
[00:07] <x_root> i had*
[00:07] <TJ-> x_root: I think that's what ubuntu-touch are up to: try "/join #ubuntu-touch"
[00:08] <x_root> TJ-, well.. maybe works.. i'll try :) thanks
[00:08] <svetlana> TJ-, trying to figure out whether i'm using non free firmware or not
[00:08] <TJ-> svetlana: which device is it? "lspci -nn" ... I'm interested in the PCI [vendor:prodcut] ID string at the end
[00:09] <sagredo> TJ-: Aug 15 10:15:39 ubuntu kernel: [  104.954680] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code
[00:09] <jeff3> TJ-, what am I looking for in this log file?
[00:10] <TJ-> svetlana: Also, try "grep firmware /var/log/dmesg" that will show something like I get: "[   15.941782] iwl4965 0000:0b:00.0: loaded firmware version 228.61.2.24
[00:10] <TJ-> "
[00:10] <TJ-> sagredo: OK, you have a failing or failed disk. Can you "tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"   ?
[00:11] <TJ-> jeff3: Any mentions of "EDID" along with (WW) warning or (EE) error indicators
[00:11] <TJ-> jeff3: Do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and I'll take a look
[00:12] <jeff3> TJ-, here ya go http://paste.ubuntu.com/8058447/
[00:13] <tiemay> I forgot the user/root password for an ubuntu installation which has the home directory (not whole disk or filesystem) encrypted. However following these instructions upon the installation https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vmzFdRpUom3r.png I have the "strong passphrase" which was automatically generated. Could someone point me to documentation on how to "manually recover this directory" using the "strong password"?
[00:14] <OerHeks> tiemay, if you have not stored or written down that password, i guess it is very safe.
[00:15] <tiemay> OerHeks: that wasn't my question
[00:15] <tiemay> * that doesn't answer my question
[00:15] <TJ-> jeff3: That shows the X server is using a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" rather than using device auto-discovery, Has the nvidia proprietary driver, and a ViewSonic VX2260WM at 1920x1080 resolution
[00:16] <jeff3> TJ-, should I use device auto discovery instead?
[00:16] <sagredo> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/7xdzfa24
[00:16] <sagredo> TJ-: can i just try to force mount it
[00:17] <cynicallemon> svetlana: there is a package called vrms which tests for non-free software but im not sure how upto date or how accurate it is
[00:17] <OerHeks> tiemay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[00:17] <TJ-> tiemay: See "man ecryptfs-recover-private"
[00:18] <tiemay> thanks, I'll take a look
[00:18] <cynicallemon> tiemay: and why didnt you write down the passphrase as instructed? :)
[00:18] <TJ-> sagredo: It is not possible to mount drives, you mount the file-systems contained in the partitions
[00:19] <sagredo> TJ-: so how can i rescue the data on the drive?
[00:19] <TJ-> sagredo: unfortunately, that pastebin log didn't go back far enough... no sign of sda messages. Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" so I can see the entire file?
[00:19] <veryhappy> hey guys, i got a strange problem, when i connect my usb mouse with my netbook the mouse works for a few seconds and switches off after inactivity, well first i thought it wouldn't work then anymore, but it works after a click on the mouse it switches on again until i click a button, could that be a weird setting or what could be the issue?
[00:19] <tiemay> cynicallemon: I wrote down the "strong passphrase" as instructed, I forgot the user/root passphrase (which I wasn't advised to write down)
[00:19] <sagredo> TJ-: i dont know if i can install pastbinit
[00:20] <veryhappy> i meant my mouse always just works after a new click as long until it gets inactive, then it switches off again.
[00:20] <sagredo> TJ-: I'm on 13.04
[00:20] <TJ-> sagredo: Hmmm, well any way you can, try to get the entire kern.log into pastebin
[00:21] <TJ-> sagredo: which is now unsupported and EOL if it has problems.
[00:22] <sagredo> TJ-: :(
[00:22] <TJ-> svetlana: In package "linux-firmware" you'll find it has the file "/usr/share/doc/linux-firmware/licenses/LICENCE.iwlwifi_firmware" which describes the Intel firmware license
[00:23] <TJ-> sagredo: I need to see that log-file to determine the extent of the disk errors. It may be the disk is now totally dead, or there may be a chance to recover something
[00:23] <sagredo> TJ-: ok
[00:23] <hhhhhh> hey everybody
[00:23] <svetlana> TJ-, 14:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection [8086:4229] (rev 61)
[00:23] <sagredo> TJ-: how can i output the log to a .txt?
[00:23] <sagredo> in its entirety?
[00:23] <TJ-> veryhappy: Have you replaced the batteries with fully charged/new ones?
[00:23] <svetlana> TJ-, [   53.696420] iwl4965 0000:14:00.0: loaded firmware version 228.61.2.24
[00:24] <TJ-> svetlana: Same chipset as on my lappy then, so the file I just pointed you to containing the license will tell you the terms
[00:24] <Christian> hi
[00:24] <svetlana> cynicallemon, this only lists skype, no iwlwifi things (either it's inaccurate or i'm using free firmware)
[00:24] <veryhappy> TJ i got it, it is a cable usb mouse, that's why i found this one really odd, it has to do with the package "laptop-mode-tools" which is only on battery switching the mouse off after 3 seconds of inactivity
[00:24] <TJ-> sagredo: Errr, yes. I can't work from snippets :)
[00:24] <Guest25058> I am having a horrible problem trying to utilize my virtualhost
[00:25] <Guest25058> can someone help out with this?
[00:25] <svetlana> TJ-, /usr/share/doc/linux-firmware/licenses/LICENCE.iwlwifi_firmware is a lovely file saying i can only distribute binaries and i cant modify them
[00:25] <TJ-> veryhappy: Oh... cable, doh!! :)  ... are the usb ports being powered down to save watts?
[00:25] <OERIAS> What is the ubuntu offtopic called?
[00:25] <cynicallemon> svetlana: i guess its because there is no iwlwifi package maybe as its in the kernel
[00:26] <Fevix> I managed to get a USB boot disk going, but it refuses to recognize the other USB drive, instead trying to install to my hard drive. Does the other USB drive have to not be a boot disk itself? (I figured it would think the boot disk was an OS and offer to either install alongside or overwrite)
[00:26] <Guest25058> hi is anyone here familiar with setting up httpd.conf files?
[00:26] <svetlana> TJ-, aww, i see ... i am trying to install a more free distro on it, i guess i'll need to get a new wifi thingy and plug it into usb
[00:26] <CraftThatBlock> well i've been having a problem for hours and I just found out it was because of ubuntu derping with my USB 3.0
[00:26] <svetlana> TJ-, what laptop if i can ask ? you using a fujitsu laptop or something else and only the chopset is sme ?
[00:26] <svetlana> same*
[00:26] <OERIAS> What is the ubuntu offtopic called?
[00:26] <CraftThatBlock> at least it's working (still loading*)
[00:27] <Guest25058> what does that mean?
[00:27] <TJ-> svetlana: Yes ... you don't even know the microcontroller or opcode set used in the device, let alone having access to a compiler for that, so that makes sense. The various regulatory regimes around the world require the manufacturers to ensure the devices cannot be modified to generate interference outside the specifications
[00:27] <TJ-> svetlana: Dell XPS
[00:27] <cynicallemon> svetlana: in debian, firmware-iwlwifi listed as non-free by vrms
[00:27] <veryhappy> TJ, this is a netbook i optimized with a few crazy optimizations, i first installed a server kernel and on top of that a realtime kernel with a few crazy additional settings, too. then i made my netbook save energy again with laptop-mode-tools and that one switches off the mouse after inactivity only when running on battery. that's it :D
[00:27] <sagredo> TJ-: here it is http://pastebin.com/U0N9D6XS
[00:27] <TJ-> veryhappy: well it's doing what you asked it to :)
[00:27] <Guest25058> can anyone here help me with my server?
[00:28] <TJ-> sagredo: Great! well done, I'm reading now
[00:28] <Bashing-om> OERIAS:  -# ubuntu-ot ??
[00:28] <Guest25058> can anyone see my posts?
[00:28] <Fevix> Can someone walk me through how to burn an iso to a USB drive using Windows?
[00:28] <Guest25058> do I have to be logged in?
[00:28] <veryhappy> TJ it seems like it does, but way too fast, normally you don't look into every configuration file on  your pc or notebook/netbook. :D
[00:29] <cynicallemon> Fevix: windiskimager is your best friend
[00:29] <bjpenn> when one installs ubuntu and they put in the "domain", where is that used? /etc/hosts?
[00:29] <OERIAS> I have been helped Thank you!
[00:29] <Fevix> cynicallemon: Will this install it as if it's a hard drive, or make it a boot disk?
[00:30] <TJ-> sagredo: It has 2 partitions and the partition table was readable initially: "kernel: [    6.232302]  sda: sda1 sda2" but soon the drive refuses to answer "   71.875130] ata2.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED"
[00:30] <veryhappy> Fevix: this is ubuntu linux channel, if you want to "burn" an iso to usb use disk dump (dd) under linux or use unetbootin if you want to setup a bootable usb disk for installation purposes.
[00:30] <cynicallemon> Fevix it will make a stock live boot cd with option to install
[00:30] <Fevix> I'd rather have the former, as this USB drive will be used as a temp replacement for a broken hard drive.
[00:31] <veryhappy> ok tj and all others i'm leaving now. take care
[00:31] <cynicallemon> Fevix: not cd, usb
[00:31] <TJ-> sagredo: then the drive refuses to reset and goes AWOL: "[   77.189758] ata2.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4)"
[00:31] <Fevix> I don't want it as a bootable usb disk with option to install, I want it as a hard disk.
[00:31] <sagredo> TJ-: hrmmm
[00:31] <sagredo> TJ-: are there any recovery tools you could recommend?
[00:31] <veryhappy> Fevix: use it as a hard disk then.
[00:31] <TJ-> sagredo: Summary: Drive is dead
[00:31] <svetlana> cynicallemon, i should file a bug for it to be listed as nonfree in ubuntu?
[00:31] <Guest25058> hi
[00:31] <bjpenn> what is the "domain" value used for? where is stored after you type it into the installation wizard?
[00:32] <Guest25058> i have a questions about httd.conf file
[00:32] <veryhappy> bye guys
[00:32] <Fevix> I tried using a second USB drive as a boot disk to install to the desired USB drive, but it didn't let me pick where to install to, and simply tried to install to my hard drive
[00:32] <svetlana> TJ-, your understanding of this and a detailed answer are most appreciated; a big thank you
[00:32] <Fevix> The target USB drive is a 32GB drive, it should have more than enough space
[00:32] <Guest25058> hello
[00:32] <Guest25058> can someone see me
[00:32] <cynicallemon> svetlana: debian and ubuntu have different ideas about whats free and non-free, thats why RMS has a thing about ubuntu
[00:32] <Guest25058> can you help me
[00:33] <pixel1> hello
[00:33] <sagredo> TJ-: ?
[00:33] <TJ-> svetlana: The fact the firmware is in "linux-firmware" indicates it has something other than a GPL license. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware
[00:33] <svetlana> Guest25058, yes
[00:33] <TJ-> sagredo: The drive is dead
[00:33] <sagredo> TJ-: but it is still spinning
[00:33] <sagredo> :(
[00:34] <Fevix> sagredo: Hardware and software can fail differently
[00:34] <TJ-> sagredo: So? that just means it has power. That has nothing to do with its controller not being dead
[00:34] <sagredo> TJ-: well thanks for your help
[00:34] <sagredo> TJ-: I do not even know what a drive controller is
[00:35] <sagredo> TJ-: do you think it could recovered professionally?
[00:35] <TJ-> sagredo: That's unknown, but the cost will likely be prohibitive
[00:35] <svetlana> sagredo: you have a book which you hold with your hands and your eyes. the book is rotten; your hand and your eyes are the controller. -- this is probably a simple way to put it.
[00:35] <svetlana> and read with your eyes*
[00:35] <Fevix> Trying to use one USB boot disk to install to another USB drive, boot disk ignores other USB drive, tries to install to hard disk
[00:35] <sagredo> svetlana: interesting :)
[00:35] <Guest25058> hi can someone help me with my server?
[00:36] <TJ-> svetlana: That analogy didn't help LOL
[00:36] <svetlana> aw :p
[00:36] <sagredo> TJ-: well TJ brownie points to you friend
[00:37] <Fevix> Would my use of a USB hub on both drives be affecting this?
[00:37] <Fevix> SHould I plug both into the motherboard USB ports?
[00:37] <accatoro> !list
[00:37] <TJ-> sagredo: If you want a chance at recovery first thing is disconnect the drive and let it cool right down... *don't* put in a refridgerator else condensation could form internally.... just put it someplace cool. When it is cold, attach it to a Linux PC, start it, and immediately see if you get a window of readability before the drive goes offline. If so, you *may* be able to recover data by keeping the drive cold whilst it is operating
[00:38] <TJ-> sagredo: But I warn you, recovery like that is very complex and needs expertise and a lot of patience
[00:38] <sagredo> TJ-: alright, cheers
[00:38] <sagredo> thanks
[00:38] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes, connect direct to the motherboard for booting
[00:38] <ubuntupc9> hello!  I bought a Wifi usb adapter and wanted to know if there is a way to read the devices firmware
[00:39] <Fevix> TJ-: Alright, will do
[00:39] <Guest25058> cxm /msg nickserv register that1979 xtianus@live.com
[00:39] <Fevix> BBIAB if anything goes wrong
[00:39] <Fevix> Thanks
[00:39] <Guest25058> lol well that didn't wokr
[00:39] <TJ-> sagredo You know from the log-file that sda has two partitions, so you ought to try mounting sda1 and sda2 as soon as the cold drive is ready
[00:40] <Guest25058> can someone help me
[00:40] <TJ-> ubuntupc9: Generally no - device firmware access is manufacturer-specific and usually a closely guarded secret
[00:40] <jeff3> Okay, I tried uninstalling the proprietary nvidia driver and installing the ubuntu nvidia driver and now I cannot get any display at all, not even a command prompt.  How can I fix this?
[00:40] <source47> hi guys. i am trying to install lxc on ubuntu 14
[00:40] <source47> but having some errors
[00:40] <Guest25058> I have a question... If I want to make my hard drive larger... do I have to make my partition larger or how does that work?
[00:40] <ubuntupc9> ah ok TJ-  does anything on ubuntu autorun when a USB device is plugged in?
[00:40] <TJ-> jeff3: It was working earlier according to the log-file you showed me; why did you remove the driver?
[00:41] <Guest25058> and do I have to unmount it to do that?
[00:41] <source47> https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/44c063e1d3a82e4b4d34
[00:41] <ubuntupc9> I bought this at defcon last weekend and want to be certain nothing "bad" is in the firmware
[00:41] <jeff3> TJ-: because it was not auto detecting the hardware like you said
[00:41] <TJ-> ubuntupc9: When a device is attached, if it has valid file-systems, they can be auto-mounted by GVFS, and will appear under "/media/$USER/"
[00:42] <martin1989> hello everyone!
[00:42] <jeff3> is there a way to get a command prompt back so that I can reinstall the nvidia driver?
[00:42] <martin1989> whats going on?
[00:42] <TJ-> jeff3: I told you that was likely because there was/is a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" that was likely over-riding the monitor section. Best solution there would have been to simply move xorg.conf aside so the X server could get on with auto-detecting the devices.
[00:42] <tac_> What's the preferred way to add a directory to the root user's PATH?
[00:42] <jeff3> I did Ctrl-Alt-F1, and I get just a blinking cursor
[00:42] <TJ-> jeff3: You'll need to reboot into the Recovery option, and use the root shell to fix the nvidia driver issues you've now got
[00:42] <tac_> (the root user owns this directory already and everything inside, so it's safe to do)
[00:43] <source47> any ideas anyone here>
[00:43] <source47> ?
[00:43] <TJ-> tac_: Usually by an entry in the user's .bashrc of the form "PATH=${PATH}:/new/path/1:/new/path/2"
[00:44] <tac_> TJ-: but if it's root... he doesn't have a .bashrc
[00:44] <Guest91613> hi everybody, i have a short question for which i was unable to find the answer on the web yet... i missed the end-of-life of 12.10, so now i probably have to manually edit my repository list to be able to upgrade to the next release?
[00:44] <TJ-> source47: "404  Not Found" ... try "sudo apt-get update" to refresh the local package lists, then try installing again
[00:45] <TJ-> tac_: "sudo ls -a /root/.bashrc" => "/root/.bashrc"
[00:45] <source47> that worked TJ - thanks!
[00:45] <tac_> oh, it does exist
[00:45] <Guest91613> (also, what would be the correct repository urls for that?)
[00:46] <Guest25058> hello
[00:46] <Guest91613> hi :)
[00:46] <TJ-> Guest91613: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <tac_> hmm
[00:46] <tac_> that isn't getting me what I want unfortunately :(
[00:47] <Guest91613> checking... ah that looks as if i can just change the hostname to old-releases and keep the rest of the repository url, thanks :)
[00:47] <Bra|nz> how do i reg my nick
[00:47] <tac_> I guess what I want to know is how to control the PATH when I use sudo
[00:47] <TJ-> Guest91613: "sudo sed -i 's,//.*archive\.,//old-releases.archive.,' /etc/apt/sources.list "
[00:47] <ubuntupc9> Bra|nz: use /msg nickserv help
[00:47] <Bra|nz> thnx
[00:47] <Guest91613> maybe a good idea to mention that on the help.ubuntu.com pages about upgrading :)
[00:48] <TJ-> tac_: "man sudoers"
[00:48] <arthurb> hello, anyone running inn2/nnrpd on ubuntu here?
[00:49] <Guest91613> well thanks TJ- and have a nice day everybody :) [me bookmarks old-releases.ubuntu.com]
[00:50] <Fevix> I TOLD you I'd be back in a bit if something went wrong.
[00:51] <Fevix> Boot disk still refuses to let me install to USB
[00:51] <Fevix> Both are plugged directly into the motherboard
[00:52] <LatteOfCode> I have a ubuntu laptop that makes a terrible high pitched tone from the main speakers when headphones are plugged in. This does not happen on Windows8, but does on ubuntu12.04,13.10,and14.04. I've asked on askubuntu and other places. Any ideas?
[00:53] <TJ-> Fevix: refuses to install to, or refuses to boot from?
[00:54] <Fevix> I can boot just fine into the Ubuntu install/try thing
[00:54] <Fevix> But it just refuses to notice it's an available drive for installing
[00:54] <TJ-> Fevix: OK ... you're trying to install to a second USB device?
[00:54] <Fevix> Yes
[00:55] <Fevix> This is the optimal solution to the problem at hand, as we're using that second USB drive as a temporary hard drive until we can completely replace that broken laptop with a desktop
[00:55] <Guest55688> Hi guys, I'm a game developer, I was wondering if running Unity 3d can be run under Ubuntu
[00:56] <Fevix> Currently, she's using a 4GB USB drive as a live boot disk, but she's been complaining about having to wait through that try/install screen every time
[00:57] <Fevix> so I now have a 32GB USB disk that I'm hoping to install Ubuntu onto as if it were a hard drive.... and this is where I'm hitting walls
[00:57] <TJ-> Fevix: 1) Does the installer list the 2nd USB device as a target? 2) In the "Try Ubuntu" desktop are you able to see the 2nd USB device in any way?
[00:58] <Fevix> 1) No. It only allows me to install to my computer's hard drive. 2) I haven't gone into it, but when I was looking through the "create/resize partitions" menu (From where it offers to install alongside Win7), I can see the USB disk
[00:58] <Fevix> "gone into it" meaning clicked Try rather than install
[01:00] <TJ-> Fevix: OK... I don't use the GUI installer very often but I seem to recall there is a way to alter the target device. Are you using "Guided partitioning" or "Manual"
[01:00] <Fevix> I have no clue
[01:00] <Fevix> How would I not use the GUI installer?
[01:00] <TJ-> Fevix: It is an option at the beginning of the installer
[01:00] <TJ-> Fevix: There are many ways of installing Ubuntu many of which don't assume there is a GUI available.
[01:00] <Fevix> ....
[01:01] <CraftThatBlock> I got it to boot! yay! :D
[01:01] <Fevix> Could I theoretically Try ubuntu with the boot disk, then dd the file from my Windows hard drive onto the USB stick?
[01:01] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes
[01:02] <Fevix> Awesome. I'll see if I can get in here using Mibbit or something from the boot disk's firefox so you can tell me how there. BRB
[01:06] <Beldar> TJ-, The something else is the manual option.
[01:07] <js1123> hello, i would like to know if it is harmfull to delete the unchecked ppa sources (often listed as source code) within the update-panel of system settings
[01:07] <TJ-> Beldar: I'm not sure Fevix is clear on what is going on. The installer 'refusing' sounds like it was refusing to install onto the same device it booted from
[01:08] <Beldar> TJ-, Yeah hard to say, heh.
[01:09] <Fevix> Okay
[01:10] <Fevix> I'm in the live boot disk. How do I dd the iso onto the target USB drive?
[01:11] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm getting an odd error when I try to install a program called evolus pencil
[01:11] <bluesnow> It says "trying to overwrite /usr/bin/pencil.." and then fails
[01:11] <Bashing-om> js1123: " delete the unchecked ppa sources " is confusing ?? what is your gend goal ? ( there is no harm and some benefits to disable 'src' code sources ).
[01:11] <TJ-> Fevix: "sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" where 'sdX' is the device name of the target USB device
[01:11] <bluesnow> but when I go to /usr/bin, there's no "pencil" file or directory
[01:12] <bluesnow> any idea what's going on?
[01:12] <Beldar> bluesnow, This from the repos or a 3rd party?
[01:12] <CraftThatBlock> What are possible causes of it staying stuck at loading at the :Preparing to install ubuntu" screen where it askes to download updates and install 3rd party software?
[01:12] <bluesnow> Beldar: a third party .deb package
[01:12] <Beldar> bluesnow, Link?
[01:12] <Jamba> Hey guys I currently have Ubuntu installed on my computer, but I need to install Windows 7 as a dual boot, how can i do this without messing up grub? :/
[01:13] <bluesnow> I opened it up in Ubuntu Software Center, and it seems to install most of the way, and then crashes there. The link is http://pencil.evolus.vn/
[01:13] <Bashing-om> CraftThatBlock: No internet connection ??
[01:13] <bluesnow> (I've used it on Windows before, by the way.)
[01:13] <TJ-> bluesnow: badly written installer by the sound of it. Nothing in the standard Debian dpkg/apt scripts that I've ever seen reports "trying to overwrite..."
[01:13] <CraftThatBlock> Bashing-om: that setup is before hand, let me double check if ubuntu successfully connects
[01:14] <Beldar> Jamba, Only way is a virtual, however grub is an easy fix. Windows has to have the boot partition at the least in a primary and is best at the beginning of the HD.
[01:14] <CraftThatBlock> Bashing-om: I just retry the instalation software and it worked. magic I guess :)
[01:14] <bluesnow> TJ-: Ah, I see. Could someone else check if they're able to install it? It's at http://pencil.evolus.vn/
[01:15] <Bashing-om> CraftThatBlock: Great .. I generally do not check those boxes on an install. Will do those intalls as required after the install completes.
[01:15] <Jamba> Beldar: I can't do Virtual as the programs I need to run wont work properly under VMS, how to i insall Windows so it has the boot partition
[01:15] <Fevix> In Windows, the path to the .iso is c://users/Fevix/Desktop/Utilities/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso . Can you translate this to where it'll be when running Ubuntu?
[01:15] <CraftThatBlock> Bashing-om: It wasn't the boxed checked the problem, it just stayed stuck at the point for a reason
[01:15] <js1123> Bashing-om: hello, thanks. I would lile to know if the unchecked or unactivated codes in the list of system settings > software&updates >other software are crucial.
[01:16] <Fevix> Also I recall I need some terminal command to discover the name of the drive for use in dd, what's that command?
[01:16] <CraftThatBlock> time to rebuild my pc now lol
[01:16] <Beldar> Jamba, It makes one itself, can you give a screenshot of gparted looking at the HD?
[01:16] <Jamba> Beldar, I currently Only have linux installed but sure give me a second I will install gparted and screenshot
[01:17] <Bashing-om> js1123: They are the control mechanisims for what you want your operating system to access and controls what applications get installed onto your system.
[01:18] <CraftThatBlock> we need linux keyboards
[01:18] <js1123> so if i'm good with the currently running version and i'm up to date at this moment,  than i can safely remove the unchecked and unactivated  ppa/source code things. (what are they called?)
[01:19] <e1e> hello
[01:19] <Jamba> Beldar: Here you go friend http://oi58.tinypic.com/2mqksx2.jpg :)
[01:19] <CraftThatBlock> ummm my ubuntu doesn't detect windows in the installation
[01:19] <CraftThatBlock> it just shows "free space"
[01:20] <Beldar> js1123, PPA's mat have installed packages that could be an issue on a distro upgrade, more details needed.
[01:20] <jeff3> Ok so I managed to get my system back but now unity isn't running.  How can I get unity to run again?
[01:20] <CraftThatBlock> do I make a new partition at the end of the device?
[01:20] <ubuntupc9> CraftThatBlock: gparted
[01:21] <Beldar> Jamba, Could you backup what is on ubuntu and do a new install, as is it is sda1, which is where windows should be for easy access in case of isses?
[01:21] <Beldar> issues*
[01:21] <CraftThatBlock> ubuntupc9: I just looked it up the problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705325 seems like fix
[01:22] <jeff3> Is there a way to completely reconfigure X?
[01:22] <cristianhg_> Where can I find a decent channel for PHP developers?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> js1123: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories .. and if you are in reference to 'source code' if you are not compileing software you have no need to enable the 'src' fetches .
[01:22] <cristianhg_> Where can I find a decent channel for PHP developers?
[01:22] <Jamba> Beldar: Yeah, I just wanted to know if I could avoid that T.T, i guess not x3. Thanks anyways :). Could you explain to me the importance of having Windows a sda1
[01:22] <Beldar> Jamba, The issue with windows is a recovery disc would not see windows if after ubuntu.
[01:22] <rww> cristianhg_: identify to NickServ and /join ##php
[01:22] <rww> !register | cristianhg_
[01:23] <ubuntupc9> how strange CraftThatBlock I use gparted and never had trouble
[01:23] <Jamba> Beldar: I don't have any recovery disc though
[01:24] <Jamba> Beldar: Or does that also include system restore images as well?
[01:24] <cfhowlett> Jamba, first boot of windows recommends user immediately make a recovery disk - advice typically (foolishly) ignored
[01:24] <Beldar> Jamba, Or an install disc, you could install it but not repair it basically, it just makes the whole thing more difficult and in the geek area of knowledge is all.
[01:25] <ubuntupc9> shoot time to go, food time
[01:25] <alfonsojon> Hello :)
[01:25] <myraft> Hi, I using 14.04 and am stuck on the login screen. They keyboard and mouse are not responding. I can ssh to the problem machine from another machine. Any help would be appreciated.
[01:25] <CraftThatBlock> ubuntupc9: how can I use that?
[01:25] <Jamba> Thanks friends! I appreciate the advice and help :)
[01:25] <Jamba> Have a nice day ^.^
[01:25] <CraftThatBlock> because fixparts' install is durping
[01:25] <alfonsojon> myraft: What graphics card do you have?
[01:25] <CraftThatBlock> and I don't want to do more debugging today
[01:25] <myraft> nvidia
[01:25] <alfonsojon> myraft: Do you know the specific model?
[01:25] <myraft> I am not sure how to find out
[01:26] <alfonsojon> If you don't know, SSH into the machine and type this command
[01:26] <alfonsojon> lspci | grep vga
[01:26] <alfonsojon> then paste the output here
[01:26] <myraft> @alfonsojon: no output
[01:26] <myraft> @alfonsojon: no output
[01:27] <alfonsojon> myraft: Huh. Try lspci | grep VGA
[01:27] <alfonsojon> I think it's case sensitive.
[01:27] <rww> it is, unless you do grep -i
[01:27] <myraft> @alfonsojon: here is the output :
[01:27] <myraft>  lspci | grep VGA
[01:27] <myraft> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:28] <alfonsojon> myraft: Ah. Do you use a laptop that has hybrid graphics?
[01:28] <myraft> I have several update, purge and install nvidia based on researching the web
[01:28] <alfonsojon> myraft: Pardon?
[01:29] <myraft> I am using a desktop with dual monitors. Was working till yesterday. But you are right, when it boots up, it shows a HUGE resolution
[01:29] <cfhowlett> !info AccountService > cfhowlett
[01:29] <alfonsojon> myraft: It seems you're using onboard graphics and not your Nvidia graphics
[01:29] <keola> Hey, do you guys have a way of moving drivers from one distro to the other on the same machine?
[01:29] <keola> I'm pretty new to linux ;c
[01:29] <myraft> alfonsojon:  what do I do?
[01:30] <alfonsojon> myraft: Are you 100% sure that you have an Nvidia card? It appears you're using Intel integrated graphics.
[01:30] <svetlana> keola, 'download them again from the hardware website' maybe
[01:30] <svetlana> as i feel it's not packaged properly, so getting it out of an existing package is, i think, harder than from their website directly
[01:30] <myraft> alfonsojon: I am not sure at all. Frankly I don't know how to tell
[01:31] <alfonsojon> myraft: That's okay, based on that command, it looks like you have Intel integrated graphics.
[01:31] <alfonsojon> Start by removing your Nvidia drivers like so: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-3*
[01:31] <alfonsojon> Without the quotes
[01:31] <alfonsojon> That will remove any Nvidia drivers you have installed
[01:31] <myraft> alfonsojon:  sure,
[01:31] <alfonsojon> myraft: Before you confirm, paste the output in a pastebin.
[01:32] <myraft> alfonsojon:  embarrasing question , how do paste to pastebin
[01:33] <myraft> ?
[01:33] <alfonsojon> It's fine, everyone starts somewhere :)
[01:33] <cfhowlett> !paste |myraft,
[01:33] <alfonsojon> You just need to visit a pastebin website (I use hastebin.com) and copy-paste the text from the terminal to the paste bin.
[01:33] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: didn't know !paste existed, I'll keep that command in mind
[01:33] <deezNutsBlue> Hey people need some help.
[01:34] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: Thanks
[01:34] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, happy2help
[01:34] <deezNutsBlue> My wifi is messed up.
[01:34] <deezNutsBlue> I tried to
[01:34] <Beldar> !details | deezNutsBlue all in one post
[01:34] <myraft> thanks both: here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8058881/
[01:34] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, for future reference:  http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=name%20ASC&page=0
[01:35] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: you are a saint
[01:35] <cfhowlett> :)
[01:35] <alfonsojon> Okay, myraft, hit "Y" and enter
[01:36] <alfonsojon> Then run "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge"
[01:36] <deezNutsBlue> I just installed ubuntu onto my laptop. For a while the wifi was working but now it does not even show the networks. If i wish to use the internet I have to use my ethernet.
[01:36] <alfonsojon> Once that all finishes, restart and see if that fixes your problem.
[01:36] <alfonsojon> deezNutsBlue: Did you run an upgrade before your wifi broke or is it random?
[01:36] <myraft> alfonsojon:  doing so. Will update when done.
[01:36] <myraft> alfonsojon: done.
[01:36] <alfonsojon> myraft: Also a good idea.
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> Well the wifi stopped working
[01:37] <alfonsojon> myraft: Good luck.
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> then i updated
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> then it started working again.
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> now it stopped again.
[01:38] <myraft> alfonsojon:  should I restart "sudo shutdown -r now" ?
[01:38] <alfonsojon> myraft: Oh right, you can't access the system through the GUI. That should work, yes. You can also do "sudo reboot", quicker to type :)
[01:39] <myraft> alfonsojon:  I think you are on the right trail. Basically, the splash screen when it boots looks like a lower resolution. But at the login window, no keyboard or mouse response
[01:40] <alfonsojon> myraft: So system is basically inaccessible. Once it reboots, let me know.
[01:40] <deezNutsBlue> Does anyone have some advice for me?
[01:40] <alfonsojon> deezNutsBlue: !wifi
[01:40] <alfonsojon> !wifi
[01:40] <deezNutsBlue> ok thank you.
[01:40] <alfonsojon> See that, and see if it helps resolve your problem.
[01:40] <myraft> alfonsojon: it finished reboot. Same status. Big resolution. No response from keyboard or mouse.
[01:40] <alfonsojon> myraft: Hmm...
[01:41] <myraft> both keyboard are mouse are USB.
[01:41] <myraft> lsusb shows that they are there.
[01:42] <alfonsojon> myraft: Hm, do you know if /etc/X111/xorg.conf exists?
[01:42] <alfonsojon> It should not exist by default, and it may be causing conflicts.
[01:42] <Dasm_> What's the mod key in ubuntu? I would use <alt> in windows, but it's not working for me
[01:43] <nattikorn> Hi
[01:43] <myraft> no it does not -here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/8058925/. Shows X11
[01:44] <jeff3> Thank you for your help, everyone
[01:45] <myraft> alfonsojon:  I see X11, but not X111 in etc directory
[01:46] <alfonsojon> myraft: Alright, hang on, I need to look into this
[01:46] <keola> So if I wanted to run two different distros on the same machine, would it be possible to be prompted with a password on boot, where a certain password would lead to say Ubuntu and another password would lead to Xubuntu?
[01:47] <myraft> 10-4
[01:47] <alfonsojon> myraft: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[01:47] <Beldar> keola, If those are not encrypted a live will access both anyway.
[01:47] <alfonsojon> myraft: Let me know if that installs, it should already be installed.
[01:47] <cfhowlett> keola, OR you install ONE distro with 2 or more desktop environments:  sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kkde
[01:47] <alfonsojon> If not, that may be your problem.
[01:48] <nattikorn> what is chang language in ubuntu from china is Eng
[01:48] <Beldar> nattikorn, What?
[01:48] <cfhowlett> keola, logout, choose lubunut/lxde or xubuntu/xfce4 or kubuntu/kde
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !cn | nattikorn,
[01:48] <myraft> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[01:48] <keola> Okay. I'l try, I'm rather new to linux
[01:49] <redjr> hello guys
[01:49] <redjr> quem pode me ajudar com um problema
[01:49] <antonio__> i need help
[01:49] <cfhowlett> keola, easy one: open a terminal.  sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:49] <redjr> ?
[01:49] <cfhowlett> !ask | antonio__
[01:49] <cfhowlett> !es | redjr,
[01:49] <keola> Will this select my distro based on a password?
[01:49] <redjr> thank you and I sorry
[01:50] <cfhowlett> keola, no, but it will effectively give you multi-distro look and feel
[01:50] <Beldar> keola, That does not make sense.
[01:50] <OerHeks> keola, no, you can choose in the grub bootloader
[01:50] <deezNutsBlue> This is so confusing
[01:50] <deezNutsBlue> All I want to do is get wifi lol
[01:51] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: That's portuguese, not spanish
[01:51] <myraft> alfonsojon:  nothing new to install. Should i try boot-repair iso ?
[01:51] <Beldar> deezNutsBlue, Try an earlier kernel in the grub menu.
[01:51] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, doh!
[01:51] <alfonsojon> !pt
[01:51] <alfonsojon> ah
[01:51] <alfonsojon>  to see the difference:
[01:51] <alfonsojon> !es
[01:51] <alfonsojon> !pt
[01:52] <alfonsojon> oh wait, they're not the same
[01:52] <alfonsojon> thought they'd be the same message in portuguese and spanish, but meh
[01:52] <x_root> alfonsojon, what?
[01:52] <Beldar> deezNutsBlue, My guess since we just had a kernel upgrade that is athe issue.
[01:52] <alfonsojon> x_root: Nothing important
[01:52] <alfonsojon> myraft: I'm not sure, have you tried booting into recovery mode and resetting x to defaults?
[01:53] <x_root> no... spanish and portuguese is two different languages.. they are.. different.. like..
[01:53] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  how would I do that ?
[01:53] <keola> Also my issue with going to hunt for drivers online is that they're nly provided for windows
[01:53] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  meaning, how do I boot into recovery mode and reset X?
[01:53] <alfonsojon> myraft: Reboot the computer and hold shift to make GRUB come up.
[01:53] <Beldar> keola, drivers for what?
[01:54] <myraft>  alfonsojon: doing.
[01:54] <alfonsojon> myraft: It will bring up a text-based UI where you can start X in safe mode and reset the default configuration.
[01:54] <keola> My network card on a Pavilion G7
[01:54] <alfonsojon> myraft: You can also access a root shell.
[01:54] <x_root> alfonsojon, olá, como vai? (pt) ¿hola, que tal? (es) the same to hey, what's up?
[01:54] <Beldar> keola, What is the actual hardware look in lspci run in the terminal.
[01:54] <x_root> or.. something like that.. lol
[01:55] <alfonsojon> x_root: close enough
[01:55] <cfhowlett> x_root, that would be --- Santana?  Oye como va?
[01:55] <alfonsojon> I speak enough Spanish to understand a good deal of Portuguese, but I'm not close to fluent in either
[01:55] <Beldar> keola, Note when we talk to each other we preface with the others nick.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> Como va = what is going on
[01:55] <x_root> alfonsojon, they are enough similar.. but not the same..
[01:55] <myraft>  alfonsojon: held the shift button. Booted right into the frozen login screen.
[01:56] <x_root> is just that.. :D
[01:56] <alfonsojon> myraft: Huh... What system is this on?
[01:56] <alfonsojon> Are you using a Mac?
[01:56] <x_root> well, anyway.. both languages are awesome (e sem problemas :D)
[01:56] <alfonsojon> there are ____ problems
[01:56] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  it is ubuntu 14.04
[01:56] <alfonsojon> what is sem?
[01:56] <x_root> cfhowlett, didn't understood =/.. lol
[01:56] <x_root> alfonsojon, no problems :)
[01:56] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  no other OS installed.
[01:56] <alfonsojon> Ah
[01:57] <alfonsojon> myraft: I mean are you using a Mac or PC?
[01:57] <et_> hello i just installed enemy terriory on ubuntu 14.04 using playdeb... i have no sound again when usualy playdeb works.. i am using 64 bit.. any advice?
[01:57] <myraft> PC
[01:57] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[01:57] <alfonsojon> You need to hold shift before Ubuntu starts up
[01:57] <alfonsojon> When you first turn on the PC, hold shift
[01:57] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  let me try again. I did that.
[01:57] <alfonsojon> until you get the menu
[01:57] <alfonsojon>  myraft If it doesn't come up, then I'm not sure what else to try.
[01:58] <x_root> and. since here is an ubuntu channel.. no one know how to enable 3/4 fingers support on ubuntu 14.04?
[01:58] <x_root> or, if this is possible (tried on ubuntu-phone since, maybe, it could have something to multi touch related.. but.. no.. =/)
[01:58] <alfonsojon> x_root: It's not really related... however, I think it depends on the driver
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !touch | x_root,
[01:59] <x_root> is on touchpad.. still the same cfhowlett?
[01:59] <cfhowlett> x_root, probably not.  phone is phone, computer is not phone ...
[01:59] <alfonsojon>  myraft I cannot make any gurantees, but this worked for someone: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[01:59] <x_root> =/
[01:59] <jacmu> olà, someone can help me for solving gtk murrine bug in opencpn-3.2.2  ?
[02:00] <alfonsojon> I assume mesa-utils will pull in some missing dependencies.
[02:00] <pusicanu> sydney
[02:00] <x_root> so.. i give up (for today).. maybe in ubuntu 14.10 will be possible on the fly..
[02:00] <sydney> pusicanu: yes?
[02:00] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  after power down from the source, got GRUB menu
[02:00] <x_root> (on the fly is right? lol) well, gtg.. thanks cfhowlett and alfonsojon.. até o/
[02:00] <sydney> pusicanu: NO I DONT LIVE IN SYDNEY :P
[02:01] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  should I go with one of the older recovery mode , this is encourging.
[02:01] <jacmu> … on ubuntu 12.04 Precise LTS
[02:01] <alfonsojon> x_root: See you, hopefully things work out.
[02:01] <keola> Beldar I looked up the exact name of the card, but I can't really find a driver to install, or at least in a way I can understand
[02:01] <alfonsojon> myraft: Go for it, but they should be functionally identical.
[02:01] <Beldar> keola, Did you run lslci in the terminal and see it?
[02:01] <Beldar> lspci* keola
[02:01] <keola> Yes I did beldar
[02:02] <Beldar> keola, Why are you not posting it?
[02:02] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  I am getting better resolution splash screen.
[02:02] <myraft> this is exciting.
[02:02] <alfonsojon> myraft: That's good
[02:03] <keola> Beldar, sorry, I guess I hadn't realized I needed to. It's a Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565
[02:03] <alfonsojon> myraft: For more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[02:04] <myraft>  alfonsojon: ok tried to login with my userid , loops back to login screen. Logged in with a "hadoop" userid I had created, got a screen. So there is two problems.
[02:04] <alfonsojon> myraft: It seems you're running on vesa graphics (unaccelerated fallback), try rebooting into recovery mode and reset X to defaults.
[02:04] <alfonsojon> Once you have done that, reboot normally and try again
[02:04] <charco> Hey, I'm using ubuntu gnome lts, but I am having a horrible bug and nobody answers in #ubuntu-gnome and I want to report it so it can get fixed. Any idea how can I report the bug? (The brightness just doesn't work)
[02:05] <reisio> charco: how are you attempting to have it work?
[02:05] <cfhowlett> !bug | charco
[02:05] <Beldar> keola, coupe of pages of links to look through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=QCA9565
[02:05] <Beldar> couple*
[02:06] <charco> reisio, it was working yesterday before an update. I am talking about using the brightness command from the panel, or the xbacklight terminal command, none of the work. I have to manually echo things into /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight
[02:06] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  I am in with the hadoop userid. When i try to login with my regular userid, loops back to the login screen. What should I do reset X to defaults ? I have made G_d knows, how many changes based on google searches.
[02:07] <alfonsojon> myraft: Ehhh that may not be a good thing. Is reinstalling an option?
[02:07] <alfonsojon> myraft: That's usually the easiest way to fix a problem
[02:07] <alfonsojon> if it's major
[02:07] <charco> cfhowlett, hwo do I find the package that was wroken?
[02:08] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  I think you are right. Let me back up the data I want to keep and see the re-install option
[02:08] <alfonsojon> myraft: You can also delete every folder except for /home and manually partition, but that's a bit complicated.
[02:09] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  yeap rebooting, back to the same problem.
[02:09] <cfhowlett> charco, IDK
[02:10] <alfonsojon>  myraft: For future reference, it's a good idea to keep what you did as a reference so you can revert it in the event it does not work or makes things worse.
[02:10] <myraft> back up data and off to re-install I guess. Was not looking forward to that ....
[02:10] <charco> cfhowlett, I got the list of the latests updates packages from /var/log/apt/history
[02:12] <cfhowlett> charco, I understood you pinpointed the backlight package?
[02:14] <charco> cfhowlett, none of the "user" ways to change the brightness work, not even the xbacklight command, but I don't think it is a xbacklight problem.
[02:15] <cfhowlett> charco, I don't know what to tell you.  That could be an actual BUG - or it could be a user setting needing attention.  I'm on xubuntu - different settings.
[02:15] <charco> :( sorry for being annoying, I want to report it but I don't even know which package is the wrong one.
[02:16] <cfhowlett> charco, not annoying.  ask again in channel.  someone will know
[02:18] <e1e> hello
[02:19] <reisio> heya e1e
[02:20] <e1e> hey reisio
[02:20] <svetlana> hi
[02:20] <e1e> hi svetlana
[02:21] <cfhowlett> e1e, ask your ubuntu support question
[02:21] <reisio> hi svetlana
[02:22] <et_> hello i just installed enemy terriory on ubuntu 14.04 using playdeb... i have no sound again when usualy playdeb works.. i am using 64 bit.. any advice?
[02:22] <e1e> how can i rename multiple files, removing the first part of the file name but keeping the rest
[02:22] <reisio> e1e: for example?
[02:22] <e1e> eg (01) album_artist_trackname.mp3 (02)album_artist_trackname.mp3 etc
[02:23] <e1e> keeping trackname of each track and removing the first bits
[02:23] <reisio> e1e: which bits?
[02:23] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  thanks for the help. I did not know / find the shift key to get the grub menu. At least getting into the machine with another user, hopefully should
[02:23] <svetlana> e1e: use mmv
[02:23] <svetlana> e1e: example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6911301/rename-multiple-files-shell
[02:23] <svetlana> e1e: its manpage has more example
[02:23] <CraftThatBlock> IT WORKS
[02:23] <svetlana> GOOD! :)
[02:23] <CraftThatBlock> So many problems i ran into
[02:24] <CraftThatBlock> finally started installation :D
[02:24] <CraftThatBlock> really freaking happy right now lol
[02:24] <CraftThatBlock> and my beagel is ready
[02:24] <e1e> ok i'll check out mmv
[02:24] <e1e> thanks :)
[02:24] <svetlana> good luck
[02:24]  * cfhowlett ... beagel???
[02:26] <charco> This guy had the same problem a year ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2128313 but nobody could help him
[02:27] <cfhowlett> charco, did he file a !bug?   if so, check the status
[02:28] <charco> No, he didn't :( he just stopped answering in the forum
[02:28] <charco> it is weird! because it was working yesteday :/
[02:35] <redGod> i need some help getting a usb to ethernet device working and I havent found anything when I google for it
[02:50] <myraft> .
[02:50] <myraft> ..
[02:51] <Basketball> how can i decrees indent of bullet points the decrees indent button is greyed out P.S. it is in a table in libre writer
[02:55] <et_> for anyone concerned this works for me
[02:56] <et_> but i just tried it and sound is a bit choppy
[02:56] <et_> but still has sound wo0t
[02:56] <et_> http://www.gonzodark.com/2014/05/wolfenstein-et-on-ubuntu-1404.html
[02:57] <sanfen> hello anybody home
[02:57] <et_> im here
[02:57] <et_> whats going on?
[02:59] <sanfen> why my sentence is cut off on showing
[03:00] <sanfen> what I've seen is "why my sentence is cut off on sho"
[03:01] <et_> hmmm
[03:01] <et_> what os and irc client?
[03:03] <sanfen> linuxmint  XChat
[03:10] <LostNva> Off the wall question, if another distro is based on Ubuntu, why wouldn't it be supported here?
[03:11] <TJ-> LostNva: Because it may/will have changes that mean it behaves/is configured differently, and obviously, because it *isn't* Ubuntu
[03:14] <LostNva> TJ: ok i get that. I'm not pro at Linux. It seems some common problems like apt etc are very similar. I do understand the mess though it could cause.
[03:14] <Snake2k> Hello every, I keep getting "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:14] <Snake2k> for a package I'm installing :|
[03:15] <Snake2k> More like apt-get -f install
[03:15] <Snake2k> package: "libc6-dev-i386
[03:16] <TJ-> LostNva: You may as well ask why Debian doesn't support Ubuntu, that's what Ubuntu is based on. But Ubuntu has a lot of differences both in the packages and the way systems are built and configured and operated
[03:17] <LostNva> TJ: Yeah Iv'e learned those lessons recently by adding repositories from other distros, and forgetting to remove them later.
[03:18] <Matthew_Moore> hey guys.  i have two computers. i want to know if there is an easy way to transfer all my programs and settings from one Ubuntu machine to another.  Or do i have to just manually install everything twice??
[03:18] <coi> irc eh foda demais
[03:18] <coi> que irado
[03:18] <coi> a galera ainda ta aqui
[03:19] <coi> nossa anos depois
[03:19] <coi> o chat ubuntu
[03:19] <coi> td aqui
[03:19] <unopaste> coi you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:20] <Snake2k> Hey can anyone help me with a package overwrite problem?
[03:21] <sydney> Snake2k: just ask. ;)
[03:21] <TJ-> Matthew_Moore: You can use the "debfoster" tool to make a list of the top-level packages that are installed, and use that list to reinstall those same packages on the other installation. Debfoster is better than "dpk --get-selections" because it maintains the relationships between manual and auto-installed packages
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: Hey, I'm tryin to install libc6-dev-i386, but dpkg says "trying to overwrite '/usr/include/fpu_control.h'
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: That's because I have libc6-dev-amd64 as well
[03:22] <TJ-> Matthew_Moore: For user-specific settings, you should be able to simply clone the user's home directory "/home/$USER/" to the other installation
[03:22] <sydney> Snake2k: then why are you installing the i386 package?
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: When I try to remove libc6-dev-amd64, It just gives me a "apt-get -f install" excuse lol
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: to build something :|
[03:22] <TJ-> Snake2k: You can't install both architecture's -dev packages because they have conflicting files
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: And for gcc-4.8-multilib
[03:23] <TJ-> Snake2k: If you're trying to build a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system that requires the 32-bit libc -dev, use a 32-bit chroot
[03:23] <Snake2k> TJ-: I see, I tried removing gcc-4.8-multilib but it won't let me, I can post some output if anyone wants me to
[03:23] <Matthew_Moore> TJ-: yeah i figure the settings would be easy.  on Arch i can use pacmanxg to create an install script of all my exsistang software.  i was hoping for something similar in ubuntu. But i'll have a look  at debfoster. thanks.
[03:24] <sydney> Snake2k: did you try ' sudo apt-get remove libc6-dev-amd64' ?
[03:24] <Snake2k> TJ-: Hmmmm I see, thanks! But how do I clean this up now? :|
[03:24] <Snake2k> sydney: Yep, won't let me
[03:24] <Snake2k> sydney: It says gcc-4.8-multilib and libc6-dev-x32 have unmet dependencies
[03:24] <Snake2k> sydney: I guess libc6-dev-x32 follows through the multilib package
[03:24] <TJ-> Matthew_Moore: "debfoster -q --show-keepers" should do it
[03:25] <sydney> Snake2k: ok,then i dont know how to help ;)
[03:25] <The_Woodsman> i'm trying to run a plex media server on my ubuntu machine, and when i want it to find the folder containing my music files, it won't find it. my understanding is that i need to add plex to my user group so that it has all the necessary permissions. so my question is, how do i add a program to my user group so it has my same permissions?
[03:25] <TJ-> Snake2k: use 'dpkg' directly to remove the offending 32-bit package that is partially installed, then fix things up with "apt-get -f install"
[03:25] <Matthew_Moore> TJ-: ok i'll give it a try.
[03:25] <Snake2k> TJ-: Alright, trying that out, thanks!
[03:28] <Snake2k> TJ-: I found the problem, gcc-multilib was holding them all there lol, removed the 32-bit packages, error's gone :D now I'll figure out how to build that thing in a better way lol thanks everyone!
[03:35]  * sydney and everyone says *No Problem* 
[03:35] <sydney> :P
[03:42] <adante> hey guys, can someone exlpain why aptitude wants to remove all these packages but apt-get does not? http://pastebin.com/h7TEf0qp
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !aptitude | adante
[03:46] <adante> lotuspsychje: ahh thankyou
[03:49] <hylian> hello all
[03:53] <istvanchung> Has anyone else run into an issue with gnome-flashback+metacity, such that when a window is maximized, there's a 1-pixel column of white down the left side?
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what process is my webcame under?
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> webcam
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> its on because cheese crashed
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and it won't let me launch again
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and I see the green light that indicates the webcam is still on
[03:57] <reborn> Help me able to understand, why ubuntu always default on X.org x server-recommended  than fglrx?
[03:59] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: I have that problem, it's especially noticeable in Firefox.
[03:59] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: In firefox? I barely notice it at all since firefox has a white background.  I notice it most in gnome-terminal (since that has a dark background)
[04:00] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: When using light-themes, it's more noticable.
[04:00] <alfonsojon> ambiance is a dark theme, so the white bari s a lot more noticable
[04:00] <alfonsojon> white bar is * ; bar is a*
[04:00] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: Oh, I see.
[04:00] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: I take it you are using Ubuntu GNOME?
[04:01] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: GNOME Flashback with Metacity.
[04:01] <alfonsojon> Ah.
[04:01] <alfonsojon> I run that on my Power Mac G4, since compiz doesn't work in 12.04 and beyond.
[04:03] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: Right.  I only noticed this problem after I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04- what about you?
[04:03] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: Yep, doesn't happen on 12.04 or 10.04 for me, only 14.04.
[04:03] <alfonsojon> That is, when 14.04 actually boots (it really does not like my Mac :( )
[04:06] <pcfamily> hello
[04:09] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: I've filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1357634
[04:14] <adi_> hello
[04:14] <adi_> how to use this IRC
[04:14] <adi_> #ubuntu
[04:14] <adi_> -_-
[04:15] <adi_> #adi
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !irc
[04:20] <istvanchung> lotuspychje: "adi_ has quit (Client Quit)"  <-- too late :(
[04:23] <bluezone> Does anyone know how to feed the audio output into the audio input? (Same effect as holding a microphone up against the speakers)
[04:27] <popl> bluezone: conceptually that's not even the same thing
[04:27] <popl> bluezone: what are you trying to do?
[04:28] <bluezone> popl, whatever sound is coming from the speakers i want to trick the computer into thinking it's coming from the microphone
[04:29] <qtrain> Hello.  I am trying to find .Rprofile file for R.  From the directions I have it should be located in ~/.Rprofile which is in my home directory from what I understand.  when i cd ~/.Rprofile - no such file or directory
[04:29] <bluezone> feeding the audio output into the audio input
[04:29] <qtrain> even if I try cd / first
[04:29] <qtrain> any help?
[04:31] <wheatthin> qtrain, that'll make a loop wouldn' tit?
[04:31] <wheatthin> err bluezon
[04:31] <wheatthin> sorry
[04:31] <wheatthin> wouldn't it*
[04:32] <bluezone> naw, whatever the microphone is receiving is not getting played back on my computer
[04:33] <ubuntuser13> how to remove llvmpipe 3.4,128bits and use cedar on gallium 0.4 AMD?
[04:33] <qtrain> better yet.  Where exactly are my programming languages installed. Java, Node etc.  Do they all commonly reside in one directory?
[04:33] <wheatthin> bluezone, how can you tell? lol.. do you have it piping to somewhere?
[04:33] <qtrain> help would be greatly appreciated and I have fake not real fake sudo internet points
[04:34] <K`zan> Hi Folks, just installed v14 and ma trying to find out how to get multiple virtual desktops.  Looking and googling are no help :-).  Thoughts appreciated (gnome).
[04:35] <wheatthin> bluezone, It would cause feedback unless you have a secondary soundcard in which isn't picking up the loop
[04:35] <K`zan> Virtual desktops in a new v14 install, how?
[04:35] <popl> and that's my time
[04:35] <K`zan> Virtual desktops in a new v14 gnome install, how?
[04:36] <wheatthin> K`zan, I dunno.. explain virtual desktops.
[04:36] <chriys> hey guys I know this might not be the best channel to ask this question, but I hope some of you can give good hints. I want to setup a streaming solution to stream our live events. I tried Kaltura and Red5 and for some reason I never been able to make them work together. Do you have any suggestion for this sake?
[04:37] <wheatthin> K`zan, Do you mean virtualmachine?  If so, I'd suggest virtualbox, or vmware-workstation if you wanna buy it.
[04:37] <K`zan> wheatthin: Nothing new, different desktops ine can use rather than cramming too many apps in/on one desktop screen.
[04:37] <wheatthin> chriys, have you tried vlc?
[04:38] <wheatthin> K`zan, and which release of ubunt are you using?
[04:38] <K`zan> wheatthin: No not VMs
[04:38] <wheatthin> ubuntu, kubuntu,
[04:38] <K`zan> wheatthin: 14.04
[04:38] <K`zan> gnome
[04:38] <kostkon> K`zan, option is in appearance settings
[04:38] <wheatthin> 14.04 comes in different flavors.. k..
[04:38] <chriys> wheatthin: nope will it be able to handle around 500 connections and give me all the analytic
[04:38] <bluezone> wheatthin, i think you may be overthinking this, if i have music playing and i make it such that it is both playing on my speaker and being fowarded to the microphone there will not be a loop, the microphone doesn't play the music and the music is only played by the speakers
[04:39] <wheatthin> well gnome, should already have multiple desktops
[04:39] <K`zan> Didn't see anything in appearance, will check again.
[04:39] <wheatthin> bluezone, It'll cause feedback, just like if you put the mic too close to the speakers.
[04:39] <chriys> wheatthin: also does it support Mobiles (Android, Iphone) ?
[04:40] <bluezone> i guess i'm not seeing what you are saying
[04:40] <K`zan> wheatthin: Not that I can find, seem to have one desktop, no idea how to switch as I see nothing that would indicate different desktops (kde  has a pager you can click to get to different desktops).
[04:40] <wheatthin> chriys, I use an android phone for a security camera, and it runs via ip/port and I set vlc to record
[04:40] <K`zan> brb
[04:40] <wheatthin> chriys, so yes, it could.. depending on what you're using to record with.
[04:40] <bluezone> if the sound output is both sound output and sound input, it doesn't mean the sound input is going to be heard by anyone necessarily
[04:41] <wheatthin> K`zan, If using gnome-shell, you'll move your mouse to the left corner until it triggers, and shows the desktop and the virtual ones on the right
[04:42] <K`zan> wheatthin: Will try that.  Nothing in appearance though.
[04:43] <K`zan> wheatthin: Thanks!
[04:43] <wheatthin> K`zan, I'll take a screenshot of mine real quick.
[04:44] <qtrain> wheatthin: found it
[04:44] <qtrain> err nobody I meant nobody
[04:44] <qtrain> no noobs allowed!
[04:44] <chriys> wheatthin: I got 3 cameras connected on a blackmagic TVS and it send the signal out in H.264 1080i
[04:46] <Anastasia> wheatthin: k`zan on the gnome box.  Moving mouse cursor does nothing on left or any other side :-(?
[04:46] <wheatthin> http://imagebin.org/317639   ahh.. I wasn't aware they put out gnome-classic as default
[04:46] <wheatthin> I thought it was gnome-shell, which does
[04:47] <panahi> How Can I execute "logout" in a script file.
[04:48] <panahi> I get "logout: not found"  !:-(
[04:49] <Anastasia> wheatthin: According to help there should be a workspace switcher near the bottom, nope.  I must have a bad install...
[04:50] <wheatthin> panahi, logout totally? all users? :) can always restart the desktop manager :)
[04:50] <panahi> I want to logout after my application closed. I call my application in a script and after that I call "logout"
[04:51] <panahi> after my application is closed. logout dose not run.!
[04:51] <panahi> wheatthin: :my application is run on text mode and no user is logged in.
[04:52] <panahi> wheatthin: I set auto root login in tty1.conf
[04:52] <panahi> wheatthin: and in .bashrc I run my application
[04:53] <wheatthin> panahi, ahh dangerous..
[04:53] <wheatthin> proceed at your own risk
[04:54] <Anastasia> wheatthin: Must have a hosed install, no pagers or workspace switchers where the docs say I should find on.  Out with the install disk again :-).  Thanks for the help!
[04:55] <panahi> wheatthin: I want if my application is closed then the logout is execute and then by respawn in tty1.conf, autologin and my application restart again.
[05:02] <ahmadgbg> Hi, is it possible to change an existing user's home dir to and existing dir?
[05:03] <reborn> anyone can recommender for a beginner to be a development?
[05:04] <hualet_deepin> ahmadgbg: perhaps usermod can do that for you
[05:04] <eeee> ahmadgbg: sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m *username*
[05:06] <holy_moses> hello, I'm having some home NAS ssh trouble on osx 10.8. I'm successfully connecting from my mac mini to my macbook and successful connecting from both to my raspberry pi NAS BUT i am unable to connect to my mac mini from my macbook. Is this the right irc channel to raise this concern? Thank you
[05:07] <ahmadgbg> eeee, thanks
[05:07] <eeee> np
[05:09] <panahi> hi
[05:10] <holy_moses> panahi: hi
[05:10] <panahi> who can I execute logout command in an bash scrite file?
[05:10] <panahi> who can I execute logout command in script file?
[05:11] <holy_moses> panahi: I don't know sorry. probably shouldn't have said hi. Hopefully someone else can be more useful. good luck bye bye
[05:12] <hualet_deepin> panahi: there's a command called gnome-sesion-quit, perhaps that's what you want?
[05:12] <hualet_deepin> sorry, session
[05:12] <panahi> hualet_deepin: I'm working in text mode. no gnome is installed.
[05:14] <hualet_deepin> panahi: i don't know then, and don't know there's logout concept while you are in text mode, maybe exit?
[05:15] <Beldar> panahi, You might check #bash
[05:20] <panahi> Beldar: hualet_deepin:pkill login do that.:-D
[05:34] <e1e> anyone there?
[05:35] <e1e> hi v2zz
[05:50] <snake_> hello
[06:08] <adante> hi, i've reorganised my disks and my system no longer boots with a grub error 17, how can i go about diagnosing this
[06:14] <Beldar> adante, This a raid or just regular HD's you have changed around?
[06:15] <adante> Beldar: regular hdd's - just enabled AHCI mode (previously was in ide)
[06:15] <adante> Beldar: (sorry for not responding to previous comment re aptitude/apt-get the other day - I went AFK - but that is sorted now)
[06:16] <PolishPickers> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIHWoJhIII
[06:17] <Beldar> adante, I'm not up on whether this is a problem with an mbr being read or the OS with linux.
[06:19] <PolishPickers> check the video out takes step by step
[06:19] <Beldar> PolishPickers, Use nicks and be sure what you suggest is relevant, we don't just post a video.
[06:20] <PolishPickers> ok np Boot Fix - GRUB Error Solution - Linux Ubuntu
[06:21] <adante> Beldar: what do you mean with the OS with linux?
[06:21] <ubuntuRVK> IFEELSTUPID
[06:21] <adante> Beldar: i thought the mbr is being read as it is booting grub - but I am not extremely familiar with the boot process
[06:22] <PolishPickers> lol ubuntuRVK guess what i was new to linux 4 years ago and i am still learning
[06:22] <Beldar> adante, I meant changing the read type of HD's I'm not sure whether this can be fixed, or if it is just a new mbr is needed. For example you can't do this with windows installs.
[06:23] <Beldar> adante, I would change the bios back to ide and do some research, it should boot normally.
[06:24] <Beldar> adante, If it had been working fine before the bios change.
[06:25] <ubuntuRVK> JUSTHELDSHORTANDTHENLEDONALEED
[06:25] <adante> Beldar: i'll give that a go - longer term I was hoping to adjust the boot sequence to work as getting ahci/hotplug working would be quite useful for me
[06:25] <Beldar> ubuntuRVK, What help do yo need?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> ubuntuRVK, you make no sense.  Drop the CAPS and use punctuation.
[06:26] <Beldar> adante, All possible, you just need to know what you are doing.
[06:27] <ubuntuRVK> REINSTALLINGORERASINGREADYFOUNDTABLETWITH ANDR OID
[06:28] <cfhowlett> ubuntuRVK, this is not android support.  wrong channel.
[06:28] <keenguitar> he should really get kicked
[06:28] <cfhowlett> keenguitar, agreed
[06:28] <Beldar> ops informed
[06:29] <ubuntuRVK> HAHAYOUKNOWWHEREMYGRANDMAISINSTEAD?SMARTASSJUSTNEEDONEWITHSOUNDOUTPUTUBUNTURUNSWITHOUTSMARTY
[06:30] <cfhowlett> !ops | ubuntuRVK trolling
[06:30] <ubuntuRVK> MINEIS
[06:31]  * Beldar waves his cane and proclaims "get off my lawn"
[06:31] <svetlana> ubuntuRVK: i /msg'ed you, hope that helps! :)
[06:31]  * cfhowlett thinks "get off my lawn" is too gentle.  Time for some Jules Pitt intervention ...
[06:32] <svetlana> PolishPickers: btw i still love you as always (seriously)
[06:34] <keenguitar> Everytime I start Ubuntu I get an error saying selinuxfs failed to mount, but everything seems to work fine afterwards (I am dual booting ubuntu along windows 8)
[06:35] <PolishPickers> thanks svetlana! back at ya
[06:35] <adante> Beldar: actually it turns out I was mistaken - the error is occurring because I've connected some new hard drives - if I remove them the system boots fine
[06:35] <keenguitar> can someone help ^^
[06:35] <Beldar> keenguitar, Have you used a bootrepair fix?
[06:36] <keenguitar> no Beldar, how would I do that?
[06:36] <Beldar> adante, Cool I had thought you could change the read but was not sure, having the same HD first read was the answer it seems.
[06:37] <Beldar> keenguitar, NOt saying you should, however it puts a selinux in the boot is all.
[06:37] <Silverhand> Hi. Was looking for a solution to a problem I've been having and came across this IRC, is this a good place to get help?
[06:37] <Beldar> Silverhand, If ubuntu related maybe.
[06:37] <Silverhand> Beldar, yeah
[06:38] <keenguitar> Beldar:So I shouldn't? Are there any risks?
[06:38] <helmut_> hi
[06:38] <Silverhand> I've had ubuntu installed on a laptop for a few days now, and when I try to log in the video drivers seem to crash. Works fine logging into a guest profile, but can't access mine.
[06:39] <Beldar> keenguitar, Needs to be used correctly with uefi, yes it may not work. However it has a bootinfo summary that is a diagnostic, run it with no fixes and post here and start a thread at the ubuntu forums with UEFI in the header.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | Silverhand,
[06:40] <Beldar> keenguitar, I would not use the repair unless a told by someone who knows. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:40] <Beldar> are*
[06:40] <bivin> Is there any version of Ubuntu which supports wubi in windows 8.1?
[06:41] <keenguitar> Beldar: I will first check if my BIOS uses UEFI, if it doesn't it might be another problem?
[06:41] <Beldar> bivin, No and none supported really
[06:41] <cfhowlett> bivin, wubi is no longer supported and is a bad idea in general
[06:41] <Beldar> keenguitar, run the bootinfo summary.
[06:42] <cfhowlett> bivin, possible workaround: install virtualbox to windows.  install 32 bit lubuntu or xubuntu to virtualbox.
[06:42] <cfhowlett> bivin, OR do a proper dual boot.
[06:43] <bivin> Ok. Dual boot will reduce the boot speed of windows 8, right?
[06:43] <Beldar> bivin, No fast boot correct.
[06:43] <bivin> Reduce means increases
[06:44] <Beldar> bivin, The fast boot is just a suspend anyway.
[06:44] <bivin> But it made it superior to windows 7 which took ages to boot.
[06:45] <Beldar> bivin, both should boot in about 30 seconds
[06:45] <eeee> bivin: it still boots pretty quickly
[06:46] <bivin> Ok. I will give a try. Thank you guys.
[06:48] <keenguitar> Beldar: I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8060529/
[06:48] <jorge2> what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[06:48] <adante> is there an up to date document about the ubuntu boot process?
[06:49] <dotDeb> jorge2 OS upgrade to new version
[06:49] <eeee> jorge2: it's like upgrade (which upgrades installed packages) except it has the ability the remove other packages if it is required to install the new ones
[06:49] <adante> i'm seeing documents that refer to the menu.lst which I am used to, but other discussion suggests this was deprecated for some more elaborate config system
[06:49] <dotDeb> jorge2 dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
[06:49] <dotDeb>        also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages
[06:50] <jorge2> how come when I do it only like 3 packages are needed?
[06:50] <jorge2> how do you upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04?
[06:50] <jorge2> without fresh install
[06:50] <eeee> jorge2: i think you have to go to 12.04 before, then 14.04.1
[06:50] <eeee> jorge2: sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:51] <Beldar> keenguitar, No Uefi, however grub was put into the windows boot that is an issue hold on.
[06:51] <eeee> jorge2: ( 13.10 > 12.04 > 14.04.1 )
[06:51] <eeee> so you'll have to issue that command twice to get there
[06:52] <jorge2> why do you have to go backwards?
[06:52] <jorge2> then forwards
[06:53] <eeee> i think because 12.04 & 14.04 are LTS releases
[06:54] <et_> what does lts mean
[06:54] <eeee> long term support, 5 years
[06:54] <et_> ahh thankyou
[06:55] <eeee> np
[06:55] <Beldar> keenguitar, There used to be a link for this exact problem, however all you need to do is remove grub from W8, open it from ubuntu and run a search for grub and delete what you find
[06:56] <Beldar> keenguitar,  W8 looks like you install so I assume you have the install  or a recovery disc right?
[06:56] <Beldar> your*
[06:57] <keenguitar> yes Beldar
[06:58] <keenguitar> I don't know how to do everything you suggested though
[07:00] <Beldar> keenguitar, windows opens from home you will be in nautilus still hit search (a magifying lens) type in grub and it wil show what is in windows. Just be sure you are doing this in the opened windows.
[07:01] <buriedalive> hi all
[07:01] <keenguitar> so I have to start windows and search for grub?
[07:02] <keenguitar> wouldn't grub be on a system partition?
[07:03] <buriedalive> whats wrong?
[07:04] <keenguitar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8060529/ when I start Ubuntu I get an error saying it failed to mount selinuxfs but it works still
[07:05] <buriedalive> hm
[07:05] <buriedalive> Boot sector type:  Windows 8/2012: NTFS
[07:05] <Beldar> keenguitar, Is ubuntu booting?
[07:05] <keenguitar> yes, I am on ubuntu now
[07:05] <Beldar> keenguitar, open home.
[07:05] <buriedalive> there is a problem
[07:06] <keenguitar> my boot sector is installed alongside windows 8...
[07:06] <keenguitar> genius
[07:06] <Beldar> keenguitar, do you know what home is?
[07:06] <keenguitar> the first icon on the top of the dock I guess?
[07:06] <Beldar> keenguitar, Be careful here, I know this stufff getting random info is not a good idea.
[07:06] <keenguitar> or the home folder?
[07:07] <buriedalive> replace grub in to jther partial HD no?
[07:07] <Beldar> buriedalive, Stop please.
[07:07] <Beldar> keenguitar,In home W8 is in the left panel click it
[07:09] <keenguitar> ok I found my windows directory
[07:09] <keenguitar> was that what I was looking for?
[07:09] <keenguitar> it does contain boot files but I am worried they are mixed with windows files boot stuff...
[07:09] <Beldar> keenguitar, Yes you are looking at the windows OS in the window now right?
[07:09] <keenguitar> yes Beldar
[07:10] <Beldar> keenguitar, Click the magnifying glass icon at the top of the window, it opens a search and type in grub
[07:11] <ubuntupc9> is there anything I need to know about flashing usb firmware on Ubuntu?
[07:12] <keenguitar> ok searching... seems it will take some time
[07:12] <Beldar> ubuntupc9, be sure it is linux friendly, are you adding or removing? More details really.
[07:12] <Beldar> keenguitar, Has to search the OS, when any grub shows, let it finish you will just delete it.
[07:13] <buriedalive> ubuntupc9 cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:13] <ubuntupc9> bought a usb wifi antenna Beldar at Defcon and I wanted to reflash the latest firmware in a LiveOS to avoid any shall we say nasty surprises
[07:14] <Beldar> keenguitar, This is a right click, you may only have a move to trash, but if you click it will say no trash and just delete do a yes there.
[07:14] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: and Beldar supports 1) flashing new firmware to their dongles, and 2) has a program that does this for ubuntu?
[07:15] <trijntje> I thought you mean belkin above, I meant the manufacturer
[07:15] <turdle654> Hi
[07:16] <PolishPickers> nn svetlana
[07:16] <keenguitar> Beldar, the search is finished and I found 2 files, both named "grubenv"
[07:16] <buriedalive> hi
[07:16] <svetlana> PolishPickers, sleep well :)
[07:17] <keenguitar> deleted, what next Beldar?
[07:17] <ubuntupc9> not sure trijntje I got its IMG from the website but I'm just not sure how to do this in a safe way
[07:18] <ubuntupc9> its an Alfa
[07:18] <Beldar> keenguitar, Close the windows and and run a sudo update-grub in ubuntu than reboot and see if the error is gone and both ubuntu and windows boot.
[07:18] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: Have you tried if it works with ubuntu? I've honestly never heard of a dongle that required the user to update the firmware to work on ubuntu
[07:18] <ubuntupc9> hang on
[07:19] <on247> Hi
[07:19] <buriedalive> ubuntupc9 take control, good as f good)
[07:20] <on247> Im stuck inside a vinagre session because i cant exit fullscreen no matter what
[07:21] <svetlana> on247, ^C, ^Z, ^Q, alt+f4
[07:21] <svetlana> any good?
[07:21] <on247> al those got sent to the server
[07:22] <on247> almost closed this webchat
[07:22] <on247> im browsing inside the server
[07:22] <b0x> hmm ubuntu wont update to 14 :/
[07:22] <b0x> from 13.10
[07:22] <on247> .04 or .10
[07:22] <on247> ?
[07:23] <ubuntupc9> http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=34&ps=92 thats what I've got
[07:23] <b0x> 0.4
[07:23] <ubuntupc9> trying to do some wifi hunting
[07:24] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: wifi hunting?
[07:24] <b0x> i got 2 of them :)
[07:24] <b0x> and an alfa R36
[07:24] <Beldar> trijntje, They were just at defcon, heh
[07:25] <b0x> errr
[07:25] <ubuntupc9> haha yeah
[07:25] <b0x> not 36..
[07:26] <on247> nevermind alt f11 did th trick
[07:26] <b0x> i forget
[07:27] <b0x> after cracking some networks with the adaptor, u just plug the adaptor into this thing
[07:27] <ubuntupc9> I'll make a pentoo live USB and plug it in there
[07:27] <b0x> puts out its on network
[07:27] <b0x> etc
[07:27] <b0x> should work in virtualbox
[07:27] <b0x> kali
[07:27] <b0x> etc
[07:27] <b0x> was the R36 :D
[07:28] <b0x> http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=51&ps=11
[07:28] <on247> I prefer to just grab one of those amplyfying antennnas and let me in in to low sec (ie key calculable) or open networks
[07:28] <b0x> i use a 13db antenna
[07:28] <trijntje> b0x: ubuntupc9: talk about cracking networks is not apropriate in this channel
[07:28] <b0x> my bad
[07:29] <keenguitar> Beldar: I still have the failed to mount selinuxfs problem
[07:29] <keenguitar> but windows and ubuntu still boot fine
[07:30] <Beldar> keenguitar, So this is where in the boot exactly?
[07:30] <on247> but stil i rarely need to do that , as y ISP does provide internet in hotspot and i have a nice internet at college
[07:30] <ubuntupc9> I'm not trijntje
[07:31] <keenguitar> sys/../selinuxfs
[07:31] <keenguitar> I forgot what .. was
[07:31] <ubuntupc9> My question was about a safe way to plug in a usb device into Ubuntu which I bought from defcon
[07:31] <keenguitar> it failed to mount because it wasn't found though
[07:31] <Beldar> keenguitar, Before grub was it seemed was your description.
[07:31] <on247> We dont know the possible treat so ..
[07:32] <on247> Fearing badusb?
[07:32] <on247> data on it?
[07:32] <on247> rubber ducky?
[07:33] <Beldar> keenguitar, Unfortunately the real expert in this area is not on now but generally is US daytime. I suspect it is a mbr bug. I would come back at that time and see if they are around TJ_ is their nick.
[07:33] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: I have no idea, how can you know if the firmware from the manufacturer is any safer
[07:34] <ar> Hi. how can i tell networkmanager to stop trying to manage my eth0? preferably from the cli
[07:34] <keenguitar> this is the exact error: Mount failed for selinuxfs on /sys/fs/selinux: No such file or directory
[07:34] <ar> (no, i don't want to turn it off completly
[07:37] <ubuntupc9> well trijntje its got to be a safer bet than buying something at a hacker con
[07:37] <ubuntupc9> For that matter trijntje I can boot to the Ubuntu USB and mount it there
[07:38] <svetlana> ar: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf may contain useful settings
[07:41] <Beldar> keenguitar, Are you fully updated, have you run the softwae updater or a sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  I see you error as a bug in debian and redhat and fedora should have been fixed.
[07:41] <Beldar> your*
[07:42] <keenguitar> I upgraded without using the terminal, a window popped up, shortly after I installed Ubuntu
[07:43] <Beldar> keenguitar, What was the release yo had installed and when was the upgrade?
[07:43] <Beldar> you*
[07:43] <et_> im not an expert... i always have probs if i update via just update on the updater
[07:44] <et_> a fresh install always works soo much better
[07:44] <keenguitar> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[07:45] <et_> i just think when you try to update an os via that way there are library probs etc...
[07:45] <Beldar> keenguitar, When was the 12.04 install and the upgrade to trusty?
[07:46] <keenguitar> yesterday was the 12.04 install and update to 14.04
[07:46] <et_> my friend tried that and lost video lol
[07:47] <Beldar> keenguitar, Ah well 12.04.5 is out you should have made sure it was upgraded fully. run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in trusty
[07:47] <keenguitar> that's funny, because I installed ubuntu once before and I lost video
[07:47] <ubuntupc9> ok dumb question, too lazy to search but I will accept that as an answer.  Upgrading Ubuntu, same as windows?  Just upgrade and nothing is lost?
[07:48] <et_> was it a fresh install?
[07:48] <keenguitar> yes
[07:48] <et_> or just upgrading the os
[07:48] <et_> hmm the only time i had real problems was using ati cards
[07:48] <Beldar> ubuntupc9, Nothing is sure always be backed up, windows breaks to.
[07:48] <et_> butge force seems to work okay
[07:48] <ubuntupc9> yeah I can make a clonezilla img
[07:49] <Beldar> ubuntupc9, No 3rd party packages makes a upgrade more likely to succeed,.
[07:49] <ubuntupc9> this is just my android build playground, not much in data
[07:49] <et_> ahh yah
[07:49] <et_> i had to change that before
[07:49] <et_> i reemember
[07:50] <et_> i havent tried any os for my cell device
[07:50] <et_> but i am curious about it
[07:50] <keenguitar> well if selinuxfs doesn't mount am I in trouble? everything seems to be working fine still
[07:50] <funky1> hi guys, i have an intenl nuc dn2820fy and had ubuntu 14.04 installed on it, worked fine, did an update and now it is not booting anymore, and bios says it can't find boot media, anyknow had a similar problem, did it break something wit uefi booting maybe
[07:51] <et_> that sucks
[07:51] <et_> okay
[07:51] <et_> when booting maybe hold shift down
[07:51] <et_> and you can load into repair mode
[07:52] <Beldar> keenguitar, I would want a perfect boot myself selinux is a security thing, but I'm not at all familiar with it's use or if it has to be configured to run. Better help is needed for a definitive answer. ;)
[07:52] <Dasm> Hey guys
[07:53] <keenguitar> hey Dasm
[07:53] <keenguitar> haha
[07:53] <reuven> hello all
[07:53] <Dasm> I have xubuntu, how can I change display settings? (contrast, brightness, etc)
[07:53] <Dasm> keenguitar, I know you.. I think
[07:53] <funky1> btw i have only ubuntu on it
[07:53] <Beldar> keenguitar, Having the grub in the windows partition usually has windows not booting or ubuntu if I remember, so to say the least this is a strange one.
[07:54] <keenguitar> Dasm, you know me from KSPOfficial
[07:55] <reuven> Dasm goto settings > power manager and there you can choose brightness when connected to battery or not
[07:56] <Dasm> Not backlight brightness- I mean color options- I found Nvidia server, but the only setting it has is FXAA
[07:56] <reuven> Ah.. I don familiar with it, sorry
[08:00] <funky1> anyone else has a nuc?
[08:00] <funky1> or uefi related boot trouble?
[08:00] <purnanand> purnanand hi buzz
[08:02] <kolos> a
[08:02] <kolos> aaaaaaaaaaa
[08:02] <purnanand> I am trying to install packages like g++,nasm ,but it can't
[08:02] <Beldar> keenguitar, Did you use a 3rd party booter in windows to boot ubuntu like easybcd?
[08:03] <keenguitar> Beldar: no
[08:03] <purnanand> no I don't use 3rd party booter
[08:05] <Beldar> keenguitar, Cool the info we saw in the bootinfo summary led me to a thread where the user had done this. This part, Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) in the file /NST/nst_linux.mbr  in the windows partition. Just curious is all grub is an area I have spent some time on as a multibooter.
[08:05] <ubuntupc9> ok off I go, thanks all
[08:07] <purnanand> Can I download separately the files of g++,nasm
[08:07] <ikonia> purnanand: just pull them from the repo
[08:08] <ikonia> purnanand: they will bring the right dependencies down with them then
[08:10] <purnanand> Once I tried sudo apt-get install g++ but not worked
[08:11] <xubuntu167> hello guys, when i install xubuntu, i have got invalid partition table!, how i can fix this problem? please help me!:)
[08:11] <ikonia> purnanand if you give us more info than "doesn't work" we can try to help you get it to work
[08:11] <ikonia> xubuntu167: what partition table is on the disk ?
[08:11] <xubuntu167> i create root, home and swap partitions:)
[08:11] <ikonia> xubuntu167: how big is the disk ?
[08:12] <xubuntu167> installation was succesfull
[08:12] <xubuntu167> 320gb
[08:12] <ikonia> ok, so if the installation was sucessful, what's the issue ?
[08:12] <xubuntu167> when restart computer i get invalid partition table message
[08:12] <xubuntu167> :)
[08:12] <ikonia> xubuntu167: where do you get this error ?
[08:12] <xubuntu167> when computer restarting
[08:12] <ikonia> xubuntu167: at what point in the boot process,
[08:12] <xubuntu167> after restart
[08:13] <Beldar> xubuntu167, Had this been a gpt HD?
[08:13] <ikonia> xubuntu167: do you see the grub boot loader prompt yes/no
[08:13] <xubuntu167> i don`t know very mutch about this
[08:13] <xubuntu167> i dont know that is grub boot loader:d
[08:13] <ikonia> xubuntu167: thats ok
[08:13] <ikonia> xubuntu167: talk me through what you see, before and after the error message
[08:14] <xubuntu167> but in past i install few times ubuntu and alltime was everythink is allright
[08:14] <purnanand> It gives me like this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:14] <xubuntu167> when computer start, system write invalid partition table
[08:14] <ikonia> xubuntu167: focus on the questions I'm asking
[08:14] <xubuntu167> my english is poor sorry:D
[08:14] <ikonia> xubuntu167: how many disks are in the system ?
[08:14] <xubuntu167> one
[08:14] <ikonia> xubuntu167: your english is fine - don't worry
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: did you install from a DVD ?
[08:15] <xubuntu167> no, from usb
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: is the usb disk still in the system ?
[08:15] <xubuntu167> no i refuse from system
[08:15] <xubuntu167> cut off:D
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: can you reboot from that usb disk ?
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: to get into a desktop
[08:16] <xubuntu167> after invalid partition table erros i push enter many times and system loading
[08:16] <xubuntu167> and i can use linux
[08:16] <ikonia> xubuntu167: so it does boot
[08:16] <cfhowlett> xubuntu167, what language do you speak?
[08:16] <xubuntu167> but it`snt normal
[08:16] <ikonia> cfhowlett: good call
[08:16] <xubuntu167> i install english
[08:16] <xubuntu167> i am lithuanian
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !lithuanian
[08:18] <xubuntu167> were nobody in my country channel:P
[08:18] <xubuntu167> ok when i start computer, i got message: invalid partition table, when i push few times ENTER AND system load
[08:19] <purnanand> hey  ikonia pls give me my question's answer
[08:19] <xubuntu167> but it isnt normal
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !install > cfhowlett
[08:23] <norchacha> Hey, could someone help me with the command add-apt-repository? I tried adding this repository: https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable and it doesn't work for some reason.
[08:23] <svetlana> what does it do instead of working
[08:23] <norchacha> asks if i have a stable internet connection
[08:23] <ikonia> has that repo been retired ?
[08:23] <ikonia> that PPA
[08:24] <norchacha> Shouldn't be. Cinnamon on Ubuntu.
[08:24] <purnanand> Once I tried sudo apt-get install g++ but not worked
[08:24] <ikonia> yes, it's dead
[08:24] <ikonia> I thought it had gone
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !cinnamon
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !info cinnamon
[08:24] <cfhowlett> ikonia, I get nothing either
[08:24] <ikonia> purnanand: yes, you said that, tell us how it didn't work and we'll help you get it to work
[08:24] <ikonia> I thought it had gone
[08:24] <svetlana> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/ubuntu-cinnamon-desktop-ppa-retired yes it was retired
[08:24] <norchacha> cinamon in ubuntu is dead?
[08:24] <svetlana> yes you are correct
[08:24] <ikonia> it was a bad PPA and stopped being maintained
[08:25] <norchacha> wow, why did they drop it?
[08:25] <svetlana> you can read my url to find out
[08:25] <Beldar> norchacha, Nothing since saucy
[08:25] <cfhowlett> norchacha, because someone wasn't maintaining it
[08:25] <purnanand> how can I solve problem?
[08:25] <norchacha> wow, thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated
[08:25] <Beldar> norchacha, there is an unstable by the same maintainer
[08:26] <ikonia> which "should not be used"
[08:26] <ikonia> so why point someone at it
[08:26] <Beldar> I never promote PPA's here just info
[08:26] <norchacha> hold on, I'm using precise ubuntu
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !precise | norchacha,
[08:26] <ikonia> purnanand: if you tell us how/why it didn't work we can tell you how to get it to work
[08:26] <norchacha> 12.04 should still work with an oler version right?
[08:26] <ikonia> norchacha: no
[08:26] <ikonia> the PPA is dead
[08:26] <cfhowlett> norchacha, nope.
[08:27] <et_> or iqWHAT
[08:27] <Beldar> norchacha, there was no cinnamon for 12.04
[08:27] <et_> WAIT
[08:27] <norchacha> Well, dang
[08:27] <et_> i thought it was 14.04
[08:27] <et_> lts
[08:27] <norchacha> isn't saucy 14.04?
[08:28] <Beldar> norchacha, There is the other mint de in the repos
[08:28] <ikonia> et_: what are you talking about
[08:28] <cfhowlett> norchacha, saucy is not LTS
[08:28] <ikonia> norchacha: "PPA is dead - please do not try to use it at all"
[08:28] <et_> i thought the recent lts was 14.04
[08:28] <norchacha> well, being the curious little guy I am, I wanted to screw with it
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !trusty > norchacha
[08:28] <ikonia> norchacha: that seems the easy and clearest way to explain it
[08:28] <ikonia> et_: 14.04 is lts
[08:28] <norchacha> yeah I'm using an older version
[08:28] <et_> you said 12.04
[08:28] <ikonia> et_: 12.04 is also lts
[08:29] <cfhowlett> et_, 12.04 is LTS also
[08:29] <norchacha> I sorta dislike the new versions of ubuntu
[08:29] <ikonia> norchacha: then don't use it
[08:29] <norchacha> Which is why I'm using 12.04
[08:30] <norchacha> well anyways, much thanks guys
[08:30] <et_> i dont have a problem with it cept some of the libs missing and it was kinda hard for me to figure out what they were since im not  super expert
[08:30] <et_> but i think 14.04 is fine
[08:30] <norchacha> oh by no means am i calling it bad
[08:31] <norchacha> I think 14.04 is great
[08:31] <norchacha> I just prefer the older ones
[08:31] <purnanand> when I tried sudo apt-get update ,it is not installed properly 404nNOT FOUND ERROR
[08:31] <ikonia> norchacha: no-one said you are calling it bad
[08:31] <et_> yeah i know... sometimes if it isnt broke done fix it
[08:31] <et_> lol
[08:31] <ikonia> purnanand: that means you are pointing at a repo that is dead or you have no internet connection
[08:33] <et_> but on the 12.04 now where it says hardware update
[08:33] <et_> that can be a mistake for some people
[08:33] <ikonia> et_: what are you talking about ?
[08:33] <ikonia> et_: no-one is asking anything to do with what you are talking about
[08:34] <et_> ohh sorry
[08:34] <et_> my bad
[08:34] <et_> ill shutup
[08:35] <purnanand> WHAT  IS  MEAN BY 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded?
[08:35] <ikonia> purnanand: it means nothing happened
[08:35] <cfhowlett> purnanand, means exactly that = no changes made
[08:35] <TJ-> purnanand: Is the Ubuntu version installed on the PC still supported? If so "sudo apt-get update" should be sufficient to update the package lists locally. If the Ubuntu version is End-Of-Life (EOL) the archives have moved, so see  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[08:35] <norchacha> woah wait a second, there is cinnamon for ubuntu..
[08:36] <norchacha> http://ubuntuportal.com/2014/05/how-to-install-cinnamon-2-2-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts.html
[08:36] <et_> hmm
[08:37] <norchacha> oh, but it still throws an error. What's gir1.2-muffin-3.0?
[08:37] <Beldar> norchacha, That is the unstable not supported here and problematic.
[08:37] <norchacha> A risk I'm willing to take :D
[08:38] <et_> how is it different from the  default os
[08:38] <cfhowlett> norchacha, in a terminal:          apt-cache show  gir1.2-muffin-3.0
[08:38] <Beldar> norchacha, For 12.04?
[08:39] <norchacha> beldar, yes
[08:39] <norchacha> cfhowlett, "unable to find package"
[08:39] <Beldar> norchacha, there is no 12.04 in that PPA.
[08:39] <norchacha> beldar, sauce?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> norchacha, something wrong.  if you actually got the error you posted ...
[08:40] <Beldar> norchacha, saucy is eol
[08:40] <cfhowlett> norchacha, what is the output of terminal command:   cat /etc/issue
[08:40] <norchacha> beldar, sauce = source.. sorry I'm a 4chan guy. where did you find that out is what I'm trying to ask
[08:41] <et_>  lol@4chan gay
[08:41] <et_> lol
[08:41] <Beldar> norchacha, 14.04 has mate in the repos, You might consider the other main desktops for ubuntu like xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu
[08:41] <norchacha> cfhowlett, a blank file with "ubuntu 12.04.5 \n \l"
[08:41] <ikonia> et_: no need for that and it's not welcome
[08:41] <et_> sorry
[08:41] <cfhowlett> et_, not funny.  violation of IRC channel guidelines.  stop.
[08:42] <et_> okay roger
[08:42] <amr> im trying to fix uefi booting on my laptop and boot-repair failed w/ this URL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8061155/
[08:42] <amr> anyone know what to do?
[08:42] <norchacha> beldar, do you know of any cinnamon clones then?
[08:43] <norchacha> beldar, mate looks cool. however I'm not sure what xubuntu and lubuntu use.
[08:43] <norchacha> beldar, I'm going to guess kubuntu uses kde
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !flavors | norchacha,
[08:43] <eeee> amr: what exactly is the issue?
[08:43] <Beldar> norchacha, Not really, it was shortly available and was removed it is problematic.
[08:43] <norchacha> beldar, what were the main problems?
[08:44] <amr> it just throws 'an error occurred during repair'
[08:44] <Beldar> no idea
[08:44] <cfhowlett> norchacha, really doesn't matter.  it's not supported here.  let's move on.
[08:44] <cfhowlett> or continue discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <norchacha> aight, will do thanks for all your help!
[08:44] <eeee> i mean what is the booting problem, grub not showing?
[08:45] <amr> oh
[08:45] <amr> no, i have legacy boot working fine
[08:45] <amr> i can skip uefi and go to grub
[08:45] <amr> but i want it to i can use uefi to boot windows and ubuntu
[08:45] <Beldar> amr, Looks like a no uefi install of ubuntu
[08:46] <amr> yeah thats why i was trying boot-repair
[08:46] <TJ-> amr: The system firmware is not accepting the new boot entry when "efibootmgr" sets it
[08:46] <Beldar> amr, legacy but no grub in the mbr, you must have changed it after the install.
[08:47] <lukas1> \exit
[08:47] <TJ-> amr: It looks as if you have SecureBoot enabled, since grub-install is telling 'efibootmgr' to install the signed shim.efi loader
[08:47] <amr> nope, secureboot is off
[08:48] <TJ-> amr: What make/model is the system?
[08:48] <eeee> amr: you have windows in uefi and ubuntu in legacy?
[08:48] <amr> hp spectre 13
[08:48] <amr> eeee: i think so, yea
[08:48] <TJ-> eeee: No, Ubuntu is installed in UEFI mode too
[08:48] <amr> it is?
[08:48] <eeee> oh cuz he was saying he skips uefi (in the bios i presumed)
[08:48] <amr> yeah, i hit esc and go to legacy boot
[08:48] <amr> then i get grub
[08:48] <TJ-> amr: See line 23 of the pastebin you gave us
[08:49] <amr> that's after running boot-repair
[08:49] <amr> perhaps its tried to install it there?
[08:49] <TJ-> amr: line 6 says there is no MBR boot-strap code or core.img so it isn't a legacy install
[08:50] <amr> im not sure how id boot into it then :p
[08:51] <TJ-> amr: how did you run the boot-info script, from the installed system that did boot? I don't see any sign of a Live ISO boot, or USB device
[08:52] <amr> installed system
[08:52] <amr> it ran from boot-repair
[08:52] <TJ-> amr: OK, when the system boots the issue is that there is no Ubuntu entry on the boot menu, yes?
[08:53] <amr> no, the issue is that i have to enter legacy boot to get to grub
[08:53] <amr> instead of there being a nice uefi boot memnu
[08:54] <TJ-> amr: There is no legacy boot-loader installed.
[08:54] <amr> well i hit esc to get to legacy boot and i see grub
[08:54] <amr> i dunno what else to say
[08:55] <TJ-> amr: I suspect what is happening is that some of the fallback HP EFI tools are looking at all possible boot-loaders in the EFI SP, and using those, when the entry is missing from the boot menu
[08:55] <eeee> amr: when you did the installation, was there a tiny man at the bottom of the ubuntu loading screen?
[08:55] <amr> uh
[08:55] <amr> ive no idea
[08:55] <amr> TJ-: actually that sounds familiar
[08:56] <amr> i hit esc, got to f9 which is the boot menu, then i hit 'ubuntu' on partition <x> and it runs grub
[08:56] <amr> so i guess i manually do it
[08:56] <TJ-> amr: The problem can be seen at line 9218 and just after
[08:56] <amr> so if its not installed in the mbr, and i pick the drive to boot frmo to get into grub, how can i fix that?
[08:57] <amr> or at least fix it so ubuntu & windows are options to boot from in uefi
[08:57] <eeee> amr: i think you have a hard-coded bios?
[08:57] <eeee> TJ-: ?
[08:57] <amr> im not sure what that means, sorry
[08:57] <Leegaert> Hi, since I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 my server keeps getting stuck on boot on a black screen with "Scanning for BTRFS filesystems". I have a BTRFS volume which is mounted through /etc/fstab. Most solutions I've read for this problem involve removing the btrfs-tools. Should I just wait for the scanning to end (been going on for more then 10 minu
[08:57] <Leegaert> tes now)?
[08:58] <calime8272> hi guys, to clean lubuntu i use : clean,autoclean,autoremove and purge, it's ok?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Leegaert, might want to ask #ubuntu-server
[08:58] <calime8272> or i can do issues?
[08:58] <calime8272> thanks
[08:58] <cfhowlett> calime8272, yep those are the ones
[08:58] <Leegaert> ah okay, thanks cfhowlett
[08:58] <calime8272> hi cfhowlett
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Leegaert, happy2help
[08:59] <cfhowlett> calime8272, ^^^
[08:59] <TJ-> amr: There, 'efibootmgr' is calling into the system EFI services to add Ubuntu as a boot menu option... Then it lists all the boot menu entries and shows an "ubuntu" entry... but after a reboot you say that is missing, so the firmware isn't saving it
[08:59] <calime8272> autoremove it's ok or it's dangerous?
[09:00] <amr> that what is missing?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> calime8272, not dangerous since it will display what it's going to do and ask approval ...
[09:00] <amr> efi has no menu for me, it just boots windows
[09:00] <cynicallemon> calime8272: autoremove is only dangerous if it say wants to remove your current kernel for some reason
[09:00] <eeee> ( the ubuntu menu entry, i think )
[09:00] <amr> and i have to manually go to the boot menu & select ubuntu
[09:00] <amr> 1s, let me reboot
[09:01] <calime8272> ah ok
[09:01] <cynicallemon> calime8272: always verify what it wants to remove
[09:01] <calime8272> ok
[09:02] <TJ-> amr: Do you have QuickBoot enabled? That sounds like the issue
[09:03] <cynicallemon> calime8272: its usually ok but check all the same
[09:03] <coolubuntu> I am trying to log into my machine but when I try it says 'failed to start session' ?
[09:03] <coolubuntu> any ideas?
[09:03] <coolubuntu> this is when I use ctrl+alt_F7, currently I am in one of the virtual terminals
[09:05] <calime8272> i used bleachbit yesteraday , but at reboot doesn't start ubuntu, i choosed super user
[09:06] <neutralizer> I have a cron file in /etc/cron.d/ named appname.cron.sh and it is not seem to work whereas other crons work from the dir. is that the name which is not allowed? because last time I was playing with names and I noticed it did work without .cron.sh part in the name.
[09:07] <Guest40771> How do you get Shutter to screen cap without the big window?
[09:07] <amr> ok back
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Guest40771, menu offers selection options : whole window, active window, etc
[09:07] <TJ-> amr: Do you have QuickBoot enabled? That sounds like the issue
[09:07] <amr> TJ-: ummm good question
[09:08] <amr> let me reboot and hceck :)
[09:08] <TJ-> amr: If the system is booting directly into Windows... that would be the #1 suspect
[09:09] <amr> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wevjfnly7o56u7w/IMG_20140816_100259.jpg
[09:09] <amr> this is what i see when choosing 'boot menu'
[09:10] <TJ-> amr: OK, and does the "ubuntu" entry start?
[09:11] <TJ-> amr: I assume so, so therefore that shows that 'efibootmgr' has added your Ubuntu install into the boot menu... and the bootinfo output showed it was set as the default, so the only reason I can think of for Windows to start directly is if the UEFI QuickBoot option is enabled and its going directly to Windows without consulting the boot menu
[09:13] <amr> 'intel quick start' was enabled
[09:13] <amr> i disabled that
[09:13] <TJ-> amr: That should sort things out
[09:13] <amr> so give boot-repair another go?
[09:14] <TJ-> amr: no need, it is a firmware issue not OS
[09:14] <amr> oh
[09:14] <amr> thanks :-)
[09:14] <TJ-> amr: ubuntu should still be the default OS unless the firmware refused to accept that... give it a try and let me know
[09:17] <user123321> Does anyone have an idea why my LUbuntu didn't suspend? Is it because of the LUbuntu VM's?
[09:17] <user123321> I suspended through my host.
[09:19] <TJ-> user123321: Check "/var/log/kern.log" for clues
[09:20] <user123321> TJ-, Ok
[09:23] <ChaosBringer> Hello all, i'm seeing some bash completion errors when using umount
[09:24] <ChaosBringer> on Ubuntu 14.04 server install (with Gnome-Shell installed after)
[09:32] <_2_Lily97> Hey
[09:32] <Zadochob> Hi everybody! I was wondering, is it possible to install ubuntu on a hdd of 4tb, using btrfs and a fairly good use of gparted, or not ?
[09:32] <root____> hola
[09:33] <_2_Lily97> how are you
[09:34] <cfhowlett> _2_Lily97, ask your ubuntu question
[09:36] <_2_Lily97> is it possible to speak any language in this room
[09:36] <cfhowlett> _2_Lily97, english only.  what language do you need?
[09:37] <_2_Lily97> Sepedi or setswana
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !sepedi
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !setswana
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !zimbabwe
[09:38] <_2_Lily97> No
[09:39] <cfhowlett> _2_Lily97, country?
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !za
[09:40] <cfhowlett> !zw
[09:40] <_2_Lily97> SA
[09:40] <purnanand> I want to install G++,NASM
[09:43] <purnanand> PLS  HELP  ME
[09:43] <TJ-> purnanand: which Ubuntu release ?
[09:43] <purnanand> 13.04
[09:43] <TJ-> !eol | purnanand
[09:43] <TJ-> purnanand: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:43] <purnanand> WHAT  TO  DO?
[09:44] <Zadochob> I'm sorry, my question may be a bad one...
[09:44] <cfhowlett> purnanand, upgrade to a supported version.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> purnanand, 14.04.1
[09:46] <jham_> hello
[09:46] <purnanand> THEY ASK  /Alpha1   /Alpha2   /Beta1   /Beta2   /ReleaseAnnouncementDraft   /ReleaseNotes   /ReleaseSchedule   /ReleaseTaskSignup   WHAT  TO  DO?
[09:46] <mrvadon> hi
[09:46] <jham_> im new here
[09:46] <jham_> :)
[09:46] <mrvadon> :)
[09:48] <purnanand> PLS  GIVE  ME  ANSWER
[09:48] <cfhowlett> purnanand, 14.04.1
[09:48] <bekks> purnanand: Please dont shout.
[09:48] <bekks> purnanand: Install 14.04.1, or upgrade to it.
[09:49] <purnanand> THEY ASK  /Alpha1   /Alpha2   /Beta1   /Beta2   /ReleaseAnnouncementDraft   /ReleaseNotes   /ReleaseSchedule   /ReleaseTaskSignup   WHAT  TO  DO?
[09:49] <Slart> purnanand: where are you from?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> purnanand, you are NOT LOOKING AT 14.04.1
[09:50] <cfhowlett> purnanand, www.ubuntu.com        get the download
[09:50] <WinDu1965> just start testing 14.04.1 cloud server
[09:52] <pd> #rails
[09:56] <mrvadon> hello i am back again
[09:56] <cfhowlett> mrvadon, ask your questions
[09:58] <mrvadon> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
[09:58] <cfhowlett> mrvadon, stop that.
[10:00] <mrvadon> ok
[10:01] <lukas1> hellp
[10:01] <ciarly> Ciarly esce da #ubuntu
[10:01] <mrvadon> yes
[10:01] <arno-nym> hey guys, i got a short question for the community: is it possible to fully encrypt an existing xubuntu-installation afterwards? data is already written on the harddisk, i want to encypt "on-the-fly".
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !help | lukas1,
[10:01] <Slart> !it | ciarly
[10:02] <ciarly> ok ringrazio ...
[10:14] <pr3p> hola
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !es | pr3p,
[10:24] <dodobrain> hi all..
[10:24] <dodobrain> i've got an ubuntu 14.04 live usb disk and the installaer refuses to show any partitions!
[10:25] <dodobrain> but when i go into gparted, it shows my extended partition and the contained ext4 and swap partitions (and also all the other windows partitions) without reporting any issues
[10:25] <dodobrain> can you tell me what is going on? is this a bug in the ubiquity installer?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, nope.  have you a GPT partition?
[10:26] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, gparted reports the partition table as msdos
[10:28] <dodobrain> actually wait..
[10:29] <dodobrain> gdisk -l /dev/sda says "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory"
[10:29] <adante> hi, i'm having this problem with dhclient still running when i configure static ip
[10:30] <adante> i'm reading this but i don't understand what the answer is http://askubuntu.com/questions/459140/why-dhclient-is-still-running-when-i-choose-static-ip
[10:30] <kurono_> hey, everyone! i have a problem with my laptop: it is not switching off after shutdown.
[10:30] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, yep.  that's what that looks like .
[10:30] <adante> the configuration file they've presented is identical to the one in the question? are they touching the file to  change the modified date or how is it different?
[10:30] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, this error makes no sense! it says "found invalid GPT and valid MBR". then immediately proceeds to say "converting MBR to GPT in memory"
[10:30] <dodobrain> shouldn't it say "converting GPT to MBR format in memory" ?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, you're running win8 as well?
[10:31] <dodobrain> if it says invalid GPT, why the heck would it convert MBR to GPT?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, if yes, UEFI stuff applies.
[10:31] <dodobrain> i'm not understanding the error properl
[10:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, does your computer have windows 8?
[10:31] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, its win7 not win8
[10:31] <dodobrain> also how do i check is the bios is uefi ?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !uefi | dodobrain,
[10:32] <Deihmos> win 7 isn't going to be uefi
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Deihmos, yes, but he's had gpt so ...
[10:32] <kurono_> ahh... again no help. cu later.
[10:32] <Deihmos> unless the pc came with win 8 and you converted
[10:34] <dodobrain> nope.. pc came with win7
[10:34] <dodobrain> should i reboot and go into the bios to check somewhere if it mentions uefi ?
[10:35] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, Deihmos, is this paragraph still valid for 14.04 ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_EFI_mode
[10:36] <dodobrain> cos the 14.04 live usb for me shows the textual menu for selection of booting
[10:36] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, there's a command somewhere on that page to verify the presence of UEFI ...
[10:36] <Deihmos> boot windws then go to device disk mangemet and se if you have an efi partition
[10:37] <dodobrain> yeah, just booted windows..
[10:38] <TJ-> dodobrain: When 'gdisk' reports "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory" it simply means there is *only* an MBR, so gdisk presents a GPT compatible version of it *in memory* for you to examine.
[10:38] <Deihmos> or run msinfo32 and it will tell you under bios mode
[10:38] <TJ-> dodobrain: The PC has an MBR and is booting in BIOS mode
[10:38] <dodobrain> ok, loaded disk management and clicked on storage
[10:38] <dodobrain> what / where do i need to look?
[10:39] <dodobrain> this is for a friend's laptop and i haven't used windows in 16 years
[10:40] <TJ-> dodobrain: What would be helpful is from the Ubuntu Live ISO 'Try Ubuntu' option you could pastebin the result of "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:40] <dodobrain> yeah, i'll do that now.. but in the Storage section of the disk management.. i don;t see any mention of EFI
[10:41] <dodobrain> it just says HEalthy (OEM), Healthy(hibernate partition), healthy (boot, page fike, crash dump, primary partition), healthy(system, active, primary partition), healthy(active, primary partition)
[10:42] <dodobrain> wait a minute.. i found something strange now
[10:43] <dodobrain> when i rebooted and hit F12 to select the boot menu, it shows the USB under EFI boot, and HDD under legacy boot
[10:43] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, proceed carefully - read only.  delete/change NOTHING at this stage
[10:43] <dodobrain> so is this an EFI image that my friend has downloaded and pushed onto the usb ?
[10:43] <TJ-> dodobrain: That makes sense. UEFI has CSM enabled
[10:43] <dodobrain> TJ-, CSM?
[10:43] <TJ-> dodobrain: The installer is dual EFI/BIOS bootable
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !info csm
[10:44] <TJ-> dodobrain: UEFI has a Compatibility Support Module to provide legacy BIOS boot services
[10:44] <dodobrain> ok, in that case how do i select the USB to make sure it boots in legacy mode?
[10:44] <dodobrain> cos i think this might be the problem
[10:44] <TJ-> dodobrain: usually, the UEFI boot menu should offer two entries for the USB device, one for UEFI and the other for Legacy.
[10:46] <TJ-> dodobrain: unfortunately, some manufacturer's broken implementations of the boot-menu functionality means if a device has UEFI boot option a Legacy option won't be listed
[10:48] <dodobrain> ok, in the legacy boot it shows usb as well
[10:48] <dodobrain> so i'll select that onwe
[10:48] <dodobrain> ok.. i believe that was the only problem now
[10:48] <dodobrain> cos it immediately showed the proper gui progress
[10:48] <dodobrain> i.e. with the person with an accessibility keybiard icon on the bottom
[10:54] <bong1> java doesnt install on lubuntu 14.04 even after adding the ppa.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !java
[10:55] <gartral> hello all, I have an HP laptop, everything basic works fine, but it's a tablet convertable thing, I want to get the special features working, first, auto/manual rotation for the screen when in tablet mode would be nice.. as of now the screen orientation button doesn't do jack squat
[11:05] <ironstein> Does anyone know how to get bluetooth to work in 14.04?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | ironstein
[11:09] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, TJ- , booted into USB legacy mode.. output from various utilities: http://pastie.org/9478168
[11:10] <dodobrain> this is very strange. parted, gparted, fdisk, gdisk.... all of them can see the partitions except frigging ubuquity installer!
[11:10] <ironstein> cfhowlett: There is nothing there for 14.04
[11:11] <cfhowlett> ironstein, sorry, that was my only shot ... someone else will know more.
[11:11] <TJ-> ironstein: 1) Have a Bluetooth adapter 2) Ensure 'rfkill' hasn't turned its radio off 3) check the chipset is known with "hcitool dev"
[11:13] <TJ-> dodobrain: Are you using the installer's "Something Else" partitioning option?
[11:13] <dodobrain> no.. it didn;t even ask me that question
[11:14] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, should be one of the first questions asked : install to full disk, replace buntu or install something else ... or similar language
[11:15] <dodobrain> first, i select language English & continue, connected to internet, has atleast 6.4GB free space, Install 3rd party software & continue.
[11:15] <dodobrain> in the next screen all i see is Installation type, the list underneath is completely blank
[11:16] <ironstein> TJ: I don't see anything with "hcitool dev"
[11:16] <TJ-> dodobrain: I wonder if that is because that "6.4GB of free space" is actually made up of several small chunks between the existing partitions, and it cannot figure out how to use that when the installer expects to find it all in one place?
[11:16] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, TJ- , are you guys talking about selecting the 'install ubuntu' option directly on boot? i'm starting ubiquity manually after going into live mode
[11:16] <TJ-> ironstein: Then the BT device isn't being found by the kernel
[11:17] <dodobrain> then why doesn;t it even list the partitions?
[11:17] <dodobrain> i recall it lists all the partitions even if there is exactly 6.4gb free
[11:17] <eeee> dodobrain: are you installing in legacy mode?
[11:17] <TJ-> dodobrain: I think the installer creates a parted.log file in "/var/log/installer/" or somewhere similar; that might tell us what is up
[11:18] <dodobrain> eeee, i have the *exact* same "no partitions listed in the installer" problem in both USB legacy mode boot and USB UEFI mode boot
[11:18] <eeee> dodobrain: was your pc originally uefi?
[11:19] <ironstein> TJ: OK could you please be so kind as to tell me or point me in the right direction.
[11:19] <dodobrain> eeee, how do i tell? i checked the partitions in win7 and i didn;t see any mention of EFI
[11:20] <eeee> google for fixparts, it might help
[11:20] <dodobrain> i know about fixparts, but i'm worried a bit about win7 suddenly having problems cos i ran fixparts
[11:21] <TJ-> ironstein: What Bluetooth adapter/chipset does the PC have?
[11:21] <eeee> dodobrain: was your computer originally a win8 machine?
[11:21] <ironstein> TJ: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio
[11:22] <eeee> dodobrain: if you have corrupted gpt data it would confuse the installer
[11:23] <dodobrain> eeee, originally a win7 machine and still has the same win7
[11:23] <dodobrain> never had win8 on it iirc
[11:23] <eeee> dodobrain: ok, i guess that's not it then..
[11:23] <eeee> does the installer show just empty space?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, I see we've come full circle.  I have a 2009 DELL that I made into a triple boot OSX/win7/ubuntu     box.  After I later dropped OSX and tried dualboot ubuntu/win7 only, the installer got very confused by the presence of gpt from OSX.  I cleaned out/converted gpt to pure MBR and all was right with the world.
[11:23] <dodobrain> yes, empty space!
[11:25] <Guest31825> Hi, sorry to interrupt, I have a odd question - for MultiSeat (xorg.conf?), can you use a TV and a monitor? Also, can you limit a certain users CPU and RAM usage
[11:25] <eeee> i'm fairly sure fixparts would not corrupt the windows installation
[11:25] <eeee> the other day someone else had a similar problem, and running fixparts fixed it
[11:26] <eeee> but he had a win7 mbr, which was previously a uefi win8
[11:26] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, I believe fixparts is what you want.   I think you can do a dry run/analyze this before pulling the trigger
[11:26] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, so just : sudo fixparts /dev/sda ?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, read man fixparts : I think fixparts with the -p flag will display only, not change anything
[11:27] <eeee> dodobrain: it also asks you what you want to do if it finds stray gpt data
[11:28] <eeee> ( i think, unless the guy used another software than the one that comes with ubuntu )
[11:28] <ironstein> TJ: Is that what you were wanting/asking for?
[11:30] <dodobrain> ok, now theres something strange..
[11:30] <dodobrain> in windows, it shows the existing C (/dev/sda3) the same size as before!
[11:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain,  are you dual booting?
[11:31] <dodobrain> when i go into linux, gparted says there might be something wrong with /dev/sda3 but it shows the correct size and also shows the linux and swap partitions (/dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6) properly
[11:31] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, obvioudly
[11:32] <dodobrain> and fdisk and gdisk show the partition lists correctly
[11:32] <dodobrain> so whats going on?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, did you run the fixparts diagnostic?
[11:33] <dodobrain> after i ran fixparts, gdisk still says the same invalid gpt but valid mbr found message
[11:33] <dodobrain> yeah i ran fixparts and it didn;t ask for any correction
[11:33] <dodobrain> so i think theres nothing fixparts needs to fix!
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, sounds like it ...
[11:33] <dodobrain> ok, i'll try somethign now
[11:34] <dodobrain> i'll resize the stupid win partition from diskmanagement itself in win7
[11:34] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, 1. did you verify the ubuntu .iso?   2. did you verify the ubuntu USB?
[11:34] <dodobrain> and hopefully it writes a reasonably proper partition table
[11:34] <amr> TJ-: still boots straight into windows
[11:34] <amr> i havent done a boot repair though
[11:35] <amr> shouls intry that?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, can't hurt to try it
[11:35] <dodobrain> yeah.. thats what im trying
[11:36] <Truly_Yours> hi. could someone tell me how to install a tar.gz into gdm to be used as a login screen?
[11:36] <dodobrain> after i do this, if linux still shows up a whacked up partition table, i will be reasonably convinced that the partition table has been b0rked beyond some crazy level of shit
[11:36] <mjayk> Truly_Yours: that doesnt make any sence what are you trying to install#
[11:37] <TJ-> ironstein: Do "sudo modprobe btusb" then "hcitool dev"
[11:37] <eeee> amr: try sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[11:37] <dodobrain> mjayk, i suspect he wants to install a gdm theme
[11:37] <Truly_Yours> I'm trying to install a themed login screen on gdm
[11:37] <Truly_Yours> @ mjayk
[11:37] <eeee> amr: then try sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[11:37] <dodobrain> also, if you haven't changed anything, you need to install a lightdm theme
[11:37] <dodobrain> cos gdm is no longer the login manager by default
[11:38] <Truly_Yours> I changed the login manager to gdm
[11:38] <MartyB4> Hi. Since upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 I've got several issues. In Unity session I cannot see the mouse. In KDE I cannot logout. Instead of logging out the computer goes into sleep mode (PC is a desktop). Can anyone help me?
[11:39] <TJ-> amr: The system should boot into the 'default' entry. When you did the boot-repair 'efibootmgr' showed Ubuntu as the default, but that could have changed. If you boot into Ubuntu via the boot menu and then run "sudo efibootmgr -v" and pastebin the output
[11:39] <ironstein> TJ: "Devices:" is all it says.
[11:40] <TJ-> ironstein: confirm that "btusb" is loaded: "lsmod | grep btusb"
[11:41] <doob422> hello
[11:42] <mjayk> hello
[11:42] <amr> TJ-: sure 1s
[11:43] <doob422> can anyone tell me how to make a python script executable in ubuntu
[11:43] <amr> BootOrder: 0001,3001,0000,2001,2002,2003
[11:43] <amr> crap, sorry
[11:43] <lukas1> doob422 chmod +x script.py
[11:44] <amr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062203/
[11:44] <amr> looks like its hitting the windows boot manager first
[11:44] <doob422> lukasl i already did that but the script just open in gedit when i double click
[11:44] <v2zz> anybody knows a working tool to create bootable usb with ubuntu && win& ? i've tryed to use multibootusb (under ubuntu) and it doesn't give any reaction on win.iso at all, and ubuntus i add are not bootable anyway
[11:45] <cfhowlett> v2zz, unetbootin
[11:45] <TJ-> amr: change it with "sudo efibootmgr --bootorder 0000,0001,3001,2001,2002,2003"
[11:45] <cfhowlett> v2zz, wait.  WINDOWS . iso?
[11:45] <amr> giving that a go
[11:45] <TJ-> amr: Then verify it has changed with "sudo efibootmgr -v" again
[11:46] <kibad> anyhelp on dual booting after installing ubuntu?
[11:46] <amr> boot entry 2002 does not exist
[11:46] <amr> how odd
[11:46] <amr> its in the list now
[11:46] <kibad> and recreating grub with the help of boot-repair?
[11:47] <doob422> can anyone tell me how to execute a python script by just double clicking
[11:47] <ironstein> TJ: Yes it has.
[11:47] <kibad> make it executable..
[11:48] <TJ-> dodobrain: I've recreated your disk layout here in a VM, ran the desktop Try Ubuntu -> Install Ubuntu ... on "Installation type" I see "O Erase disk and install Ubuntu", "[ ] Encrypte the new Ubuntu installation for security", "[ ] Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation", "O Something else"
[11:48] <mjayk> doob422: either sudo chmod +x file or right click the file then permissions then make executable
[11:48] <kibad> doob422: if you are on linux.. probably adding #!/usr/bin/python at the top of file and setting mode should be enough
[11:48] <TJ-> ironstein: which release of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:48] <ironstein> 14.04
[11:49] <kibad> people :( any help on dual booting? I think I've ruined by grub
[11:49] <doob422> kibad i already add the hashbang and chmod too but it still doesn't work
[11:49] <lukas1> doob422: you can also create .desktop file
[11:49] <kibad> doob422: does it throw permission error by any chance?
[11:50] <TJ-> ironstein: Looks like the device is dead then; the btusb module has had support for that device since 2008
[11:50] <doob422> lukasl: can you tell me how to create that .desktop file
[11:50] <lukas1> doob422: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[11:51] <dodobrain> TJ-, so theres something wrong with the usb
[11:51] <simpleuser> Hi there. I have ‘j’ and ‘k’ as default shortcuts on evince to go up and down. My keyboard layout is quite different than QWERTY so I’d like to replace these keys respectively by ‘t’ and ‘s’. How to do that?
[11:51] <lukas1> doob422:Exec=python /home/alex/Documents/script.py
[11:51] <dodobrain> cos it should really ask for what to do with regards to partitioning even before showing the partitions list
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | dodobrain, check the ISO.  check the USB
[11:51] <doob422> kibad: it doesn't show any error, it just open in gedit when i double click it
[11:51] <dodobrain> yeah, i'll check the md5
[11:52] <dodobrain> or sha1 even
[11:52] <doob422> lukas1: i don't want to execute like that
[11:53] <amr> TJ-: still boots windoes first
[11:53] <amr> hm
[11:53] <ironstein> TJ: It works in w/ Windows 7
[11:53] <eeee> amr: did it switch it back to windows ? try sudo efibootmgr -v
[11:53] <amr> bootorder has reverted after reboot
[11:53] <amr> yep
[11:54] <loa> hellow
[11:54] <amr> i confirmed it had changed after i initially applied it though
[11:54] <amr> i also omitted 2002 as it no longer exists
[11:54] <amr> but its back in the list now
[11:54] <loa> can someone check if twitch working in last version of chromium?
[11:55] <kibad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062283/
[11:55] <loa> i meen video playback is working on twitch?
[11:55] <dodobrain> downloading 14.04.1-desktop-amd64 image now
[11:55] <kibad> please help
[11:55] <kibad> I've mentioned everything in the above link
[11:55] <TJ-> amr: Did the boot-order change fail since 2002 didn't exist?
[11:55] <amr> yes
[11:55] <TJ-> amr: I notice the list of entries doesn't have "2002" so that being in the boot-order is a bug in the firmware
[11:56] <cfhowlett_> kibad, do you get errors booting the windows dvd?
[11:56] <amr> i dropped it and tried again and it worked
[11:56] <TJ-> amr: OK, redo the boot-order change with ubuntu first, leave out any numbers that aren't in the list of available entries
[11:56] <kibad> cfhowlett_: nope.. I didn't
[11:56] <amr> yea, i did that
[11:56] <TJ-> amr: OK ... and yet the PC still started Windows?
[11:56] <amr> yep
[11:56] <loa> kibad, can't get why you can't boot from windows 7 boot disk.
[11:56] <amr> and the order changed on reboot
[11:56] <loa> some uefi shit here?
[11:56] <TJ-> amr: I think the firmware must have some other 'quick boot' option like the Intel one!
[11:56] <kibad> loa: is it something related to grub?
[11:57] <cfhowlett_> loa, profanity.  no.
[11:57] <v2zz> cfhowlett  yes, i want multiboot with ubuntu and windows
[11:57] <amr> TJ-: i had a look
[11:57] <loa> kibad, i don't think so.
[11:57] <amr> cant see anything
[11:57] <kibad> loa: should I try restore mbr option on boot repair?
[11:57] <cfhowlett_> kibad, booting dvd has nothing to do with grub.  grub sets up booting from the HDD
[11:57] <loa> looks like it is not working windows 7 cd or boot priority settings.
[11:57] <amr> there arent many options to begin with
[11:57] <TJ-> loa: Time to read the HP manual - I noticed they provide a pretty extensive set of EFI diagnostic utilities. There may be a clue in the docs
[11:57] <loa> kibad, you must just setup grub.
[11:57] <TJ-> oops
[11:57] <TJ-> amr: Time to read the HP manual - I noticed they provide a pretty extensive set of EFI diagnostic utilities. There may be a clue in the docs
[11:58] <amr> sounds like a good idea
[11:58] <eeee> amr: you have an hp?
[11:58] <amr> i do
[11:58] <amr> hp spectre 13
[11:58] <doob422> exit
[11:58] <eeee> amr: i have a hp too
[11:58] <eeee> and it wont change either
[11:58] <kibad> loa: I just can't figure out solution here :(
[11:58] <amr> the bootorder?
[11:59] <eeee> yeah
[11:59] <amr> hm
[11:59] <loa> kibad, you want do dual boot?
[11:59] <eeee> i tried switching the efi files too, it still didn't boot!
[11:59] <kibad> loa: yes I do..
[11:59] <loa> kibad, you installed windows 7 already?
[12:00] <loa> oh wrong steps order.
[12:00] <loa> first install windows 7
[12:00] <kibad> loa: yes... I read the blog later...
[12:00] <loa> but you can install windows 7 and run grub repair from ubuntu livecd
[12:01] <kibad> loa: thought it is mendable
[12:01] <eeee> amr: i tried changing the windows bcd entry too, didn't work either
[12:01] <amr> yeah im reading a lot online about people being unable to change the bootorder on their hp laptop
[12:01] <loa> that moment with not working windows 7 live cd is weird.
[12:01] <loa> it is really not how it supposed to work.
[12:01] <eeee> amr: you can try switching the files, it might work who knows
[12:01] <cfhowlett_> loa, I'd suspect a serious issue with that DVD - is it the original win7 or did you burn it?
[12:02] <TJ-> amr: See page 67 "Changing the computer boot order" of the "HP Spectre 13 Ultrabook Maintenance and Service Guide"
[12:02] <loa> try investigate this moment with dvd of windows 7, yea
[12:02] <loa> check it in virtualbox or on another pc.
[12:02] <kibad> will try that..
[12:03] <loa> kibad, you can try to switch off hdd if it is.
[12:03] <loa> maybe there is really something strange.
[12:04] <amr> interesting
[12:04] <amr> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-Systems-and-Software/Changing-Boot-Order-on-Dual-Boot-Windows-8-and-Ubuntu/td-p/2503733
[12:04] <amr> looks like it explicitly looks for a certain file
[12:04] <kibad> wondering what should I do if I can't get pass this
[12:04] <kibad> how about restore MBR option?
[12:04] <lukas1> finally, my ubuntu looks quite good: http://oi57.tinypic.com/xfb8rs.jpg
[12:05] <amr> TJ-: that's how i select ubuntu to begin with
[12:05] <MartyB4> Anyone knows about the problem when the mouse is not visible in Unity desktop???
[12:05] <loa> cfhowlett_, for that word sorry, i am will not use this again.
[12:05] <loa> i will not..
[12:05] <cfhowlett_> loa, ty
[12:06] <amr> eeee, TJ- : "There is some sort of a "recovery feature" or so that on every boot sets the very first UEFI load option to point to one of the two locations, in this order:"
[12:06] <amr> eeee: you kept your windows install right?
[12:06] <TJ-> amr: Yeah, I've read that
[12:06] <eeee> amr: yeah, i just almost never restart
[12:06] <eeee> lol
[12:06] <amr> same, i can still get into ubuntu
[12:06] <kibad> lukas1: how did you do  that! :) looks great
[12:06] <amr> it just feels wrong
[12:07] <kibad> reason I wanted to use linux is to try modifying things.
[12:07] <kibad> but no idea where to start
[12:07] <amr> maybe i should just put up with the stuff i have atm
[12:07] <TJ-> amr: I know why it is doing that... but until I can find detail about all the firmware options I can't suggest how to fix it cleanly
[12:07] <eeee> amr: which 2 locations?
[12:08] <loa> kibad, in my installations after installation of grub windows 7 continue working.
[12:08] <TJ-> amr: In UEFI there is a 'fixed' path the boot-manager looks to on removable media "/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI" ... the reason being, removable media by its nature will not have an entry saved in the boot menu so must have a way to be listed as a boot option
[12:08] <loa> grub can load windows 7 easilly.
[12:09] <TJ-> amr: Your HP is doing that... and nothing else. It is ignoring the BootOrder variable.
[12:09] <loa> what error grub show when you trying to load windows 7?
[12:09] <kibad> shows nothing
[12:09] <loa> so you select windows 7 and you see just black screen?
[12:09] <eeee> TJ-: i switched /Boot/bootx64.efi for grubx64.efi, and it still loaded windows
[12:09] <kibad> loa: did you try creating grub :)
[12:09] <TJ-> amr: I'm wondering if, with that information, you might be able to identify some option in the firmware settings that might over-ride that. Some firmwares call that feature "Simple Boot"
[12:09] <kibad> loa:
[12:09] <loa> kibad, what?
[12:09] <amr> TJ-: interesting
[12:09] <amr> i can look
[12:10] <amr> in thr menus?
[12:10] <TJ-> eeee: you renamed the grub file to bootx64.efi ?
[12:10] <lukas1> kibad:  i use numix and nimux-circle icons + my modification of flattastic-orange-light theme
[12:10] <eeee> TJ-: yes
[12:10] <kibad> loa: nope... It won't show the option to boot from dvd at all
[12:10] <kibad> lukas1: great :)
[12:10] <TJ-> eeee: Intriguing... yet another manufacturer that has messed up a fabulous specification!
[12:10] <loa> why you need to boot from dvd?
[12:10] <loa> i can't get this moment.
[12:10] <amr> bloody HP :)
[12:10] <lukas1> kibad: thx :)
[12:11] <loa> you have installed windows or not?
[12:11] <kibad> loa: I'm trying to install windows
[12:11] <kibad> amr: :) by any chance are you cursing Hewlett-Packard?
[12:12] <amr> i am:)
[12:12] <loa> kibad, what exactly meen "Trying to boot from Windows dvd, unable to do so."
[12:12] <cfhowlett_> kibad, ask ##windows for help booting windows.  not an ubuntu issue.  sorry
[12:12] <kibad> loa: I mean I'm trying to install windows...
[12:13] <kibad> cfhowlett_: :) ok
[12:13] <loa> you don't get this.
[12:13] <loa> looks like your problem boot priority.
[12:13] <loa> now it is hdd > cdrom > usb flash or so
[12:14] <loa> you need cdrom > hdd for example
[12:14] <ztealmax> hello
[12:14] <eeee> TJ-: amr could messing with this file make a difference? it comes up being loaded by efibootmgr -v, \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
[12:15] <kibad> loa: verified that too..
[12:15] <kibad> loa: its cd rom first
[12:16] <TJ-> amr eeee Can you see the options shown in Figure 4 here? http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAGE/public/psi/mostViewedDisplay/?sp4ts.oid=5401166&spf_p.tpst=psiContentDisplay&spf_p.prp_psiContentDisplay=wsrp-navigationalState%3DdocId%253Demr_na-c03653226-8%257CdocLocale%253Den_US&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken
[12:16] <ztealmax> im having a issue i have installed minimal lxde-core and when installing software that needs gksu its not added automaticly to exec=xxxxx what am i missing what software adds gksu automaticly to software that needs it?
[12:17] <TJ-> eeee: It looks as if  HP have tied the Windows boot manager into the firmware as "OS Boot Manager"
[12:18] <TJ-> amr: eeee It looks like that is the file to switch for the grubx64.efi.
[12:18] <ChaosBringer> I think i have a regression of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/346520
[12:18] <ChaosBringer> Whenever I do sudo umount <tab>
[12:18] <ChaosBringer> I get
[12:19] <ChaosBringer> sudo umount bash: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30: syntax error in expression (error token is "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30")
[12:19] <bonhoeffer> hello all -- when i boot -- grub doesn't listen to keyboard input?
[12:19] <antimist> Okay I got trouble with Ubuntu 14.04
[12:19] <ChaosBringer> Is anyone else seeing this?
[12:19] <bonhoeffer> any options appreciated
[12:19] <antimist> I am
[12:19] <cfhowlett_> ChaosBringer, yes
[12:19] <ChaosBringer> So regression
[12:19] <ChaosBringer> ok
[12:19] <ChaosBringer> was driving me insane
[12:19] <ChaosBringer> :/
[12:19] <mjayk> bonhoeffer: can you enter the bios using the keyboard?
[12:19] <cfhowlett_> ChaosBringer, stop = hitting - the - enter - key
[12:20] <lukas1> guys, if you are using bash i am sorry for you. Zsh and oh my zsh rocks! Rly. Great shell. Much better than bash.
[12:20] <ChaosBringer> lukas1, I use bash-it
[12:20] <ChaosBringer> It's a clone of oh-my-zsh
[12:20] <ChaosBringer> So, it's all preference :P
[12:20] <amr> TJ-: which file?
[12:21] <amr> oh, i see your link
[12:21] <amr> bear with me
[12:21] <ztealmax> what software adds gksu option to synaptic automaticly instead of manually have to add this? is there something like policykit thingy that does this?
[12:21] <TJ-> amr: I *think* there may be a clever way to fool it
[12:21] <amr> oo
[12:22] <eeee> amr: TJ-  this file right ? \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
[12:22] <ChaosBringer> Anyways, since we found a regression issue, is there anywhere we can file it or is there already an updated bug? (that one was marked fixed)
[12:22] <antimist> So anyway, I left my laptop running with Ubuntu and forgot to plug it, I come back after 4 hours to find that before the accounts/login screen there is the terminal error messages and when I login it comes up as SYSTEM PROBLEM DETECTED
[12:22] <lukas1> ChaosBringer: interesting. I will check this later :)
[12:23] <loa> why valve sponsored opensource if it was angry on microsoft that don't want steam as content velivery service?
[12:23] <amr> yes i can see those options, TJ-
[12:23] <loa> i can't get this.
[12:23] <amr> i thikn
[12:23] <mjayk> loa not really a ubuntu question try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <amr> i have legacy boot and uefi boot order
[12:23] <cfhowlett_> loa, ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <loa> okay.
[12:23] <TJ-> amr: notice how when grub-install called efibootmgr, the firmware gave the new boot entry the index "0000"? Notice also that the "Windows Boot Manager" is "0001" ? I reckon that the firmware is simply always starting "0001" ... if my hypothesis is correct, then you could duplicate the Microsoft entry to another slot, then replace the "0001" slot with the Ubuntu entry
[12:23] <antimist> Okay is anybody reading me
[12:23] <cfhowlett_> !patience | antimist,
[12:24] <bonhoeffer> all -- i just got disconnected
[12:24] <antimist> Oh
[12:24] <amr> TJ-: oo interesting
[12:24] <bonhoeffer> apologies -- i was having the grub problem -- where it wasn't taking any keyboard input
[12:24] <TJ-> amr: Before we explore that... in the uefi boot order are there any editing options to add options I don't see in that figure 4?
[12:25] <bonhoeffer> now i have the problem where my hardware just stopped -- it was during an upgrade
[12:25] <amr> TJ-: let me reboot and see
[12:25] <amr> bear with me
[12:25] <antimist> Well for all I know is that my wireless device driver stopped working and my hi font keeps changing back and forth from ubuntu default font to something else
[12:25] <TJ-> amr: this is where we need IPMI or KVM over IP :)
[12:26] <chan_> can anyone tell me how to execute a python script by just double clicking
[12:27] <bonhoeffer> oh, it also might help that i've tried a usb keyboard and a usb wireless  keyboard -- both aren't recognized during grub
[12:27] <antimist> And when I open terminal the in a smaller window the the menu bar keeps going on and off
[12:27] <bonhoeffer> and i can't select any of the options
[12:27] <mjayk> bonhoeffer: can you get into the bios?
[12:27] <loa> mjayk, cfhowlett_ so much flood on #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:27] <bonhoeffer> mjayk: yes
[12:27] <mjayk> loa: doesn't mean this is the correct place
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> i just read online that i need to tell the system to not use ps2
[12:28] <loa> mjayk, yea you are right.
[12:28] <cfhowlett_> loa, this is the ubuntu-support channel.. that's the topic here.
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> or some setting like that  ...
[12:28] <mjayk> bonhoeffer: ok good so then its not a harware problem
[12:28] <amr> TJ-: i have os boot manager, usb hdd, usb dvd drive
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> mjayk: so i'll try the bios update
[12:28] <amr> TJ-: tell me about it :)
[12:28] <mjayk> bonhoeffer: before you do have a look in there
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> mjayk: ok
[12:28] <TJ-> amr: OK... so "OS Boot Manager" cannot be altered, just it's position in the list altered?
[12:28] <mjayk> for anything to do with keyboard / ps2 or usb options
[12:28] <amr> yep
[12:29] <bonhoeffer> mjayk: will do -- upgrading the distro now
[12:29] <TJ-> amr: OK... then I think we need to see if modifying the boot menu might workaround it
[12:29] <bonhoeffer> but also curious -- i pluged in a usb wireless card -- but it isn't auto-recognized -- any troubleshooting options?
[12:29] <antimist> Hmm I'll be back later after bonhoffier problem gets solved
[12:29] <amr> would this make grub the boot menu? i just noticed that the windows entry in grub doesnt booot windows correctly
[12:29] <mjayk> bonhoeffer: do you know if its supported?
[12:29] <bonhoeffer> ha ha -- i'm on 11.10
[12:30] <bonhoeffer> upgrading now
[12:30] <mjayk> best to come back after thats sorted then :)
[12:30] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You need to enable "USB Legacy" support in BIOS
[12:30] <bonhoeffer> agreed
[12:30] <bonhoeffer> TJ-: thanks
[12:31] <antimist> So, now can I ask?
[12:31] <antimist> Suppose so
[12:31] <mjayk> antimist: ask away someone will respond if they can help
[12:31] <antimist> Anyway
[12:31] <bonhoeffer> how do i see my hardware in ubuntu -- ram, processor, etc --
[12:31] <cfhowlett_> bonhoeffer, lshw
[12:32] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:32] <bonhoeffer> perfect
[12:32] <antimist> So, I left my computer on with Ubuntu booted but I had to leave, somehow I missed putting on my power cable
[12:33] <TJ-> amr: Grub menu would have to be fixed separately.
[12:33] <antimist> so, when I come back the power is all drained out on my laptop
[12:34] <antimist> And so I just start the computer by attaching the power cable
[12:34] <antimist> And I get the terminal error statements before the accounts and login  page
[12:34] <eeee> amr: TJ- i just tried switching the bootmgfw.efi file, and it still loaded into windows except the HP logo was huge
[12:35] <mjayk> antimist: what arrors
[12:35] <antimist> And so not heeding it
[12:35] <antimist> Let me reboot and tell you
[12:35] <antimist> Because I couldn't see them
[12:35] <antimist> And couldn't identify them through dmesg
[12:36] <TJ-> eeee: it's damned persistent!
[12:36] <antimist> Hmm though after logging in it shows up as system problem detected
[12:37] <antimist> But my wireless broadcom driver seems to work
[12:37] <loa> will it be hard to migrate to raid 1 from just simple installation on one hard drive?
[12:37] <ikonia> antimist: who are you talking to ?
[12:37] <cfhowlett_> antimist, so the *EXACT* problem is ... ?
[12:38] <ikonia> loa: no, should be very straight forward
[12:38] <cfhowlett_> !raid | loa
[12:38] <antimist> Trying to read the dmesg here
[12:38] <ikonia> loa: more so if the hard drive you want to migrate to is one of the disks already in the raid1
[12:38] <simpleuser> Hi there. I have ‘j’ and ‘k’ as default shortcuts on evince to go up and down. My keyboard layout is quite different than QWERTY so I’d like to replace these keys respectively by ‘t’ and ‘s’. How to do that?
[12:38] <loa> maybe migrate is not describe beahaviour i want.
[12:39] <loa> i have installed system i want move it on another hard drives and make raid 1
[12:39] <loa> cfhowlett_, ^^
[12:39] <antimist> Hmm how do I find a  error stated in dmesg
[12:39] <ikonia> loa: ok, that's a little more complex, but also not too bad
[12:39] <amr> eeee: lol
[12:39] <amr> how does this bloody thing work
[12:40] <ikonia> loa: the overall concept is make the raid1 meta device, copy your file systems over to it, apply grub, update the config files to point at the new disk identifier and your done
[12:40] <ikonia> loa: it's a little more complex than that, but that's the process
[12:40] <loa> ikonia, looks like i always will have backup on old drive, right?
[12:40] <xbob> hi to all, i have installed ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop 12 IN VIRTUAL BOX in windows 7, how do i connect the desktop to the server and likewise
[12:41] <ikonia> loa: no
[12:41] <ikonia> xbob: define connect ? to do what
[12:41] <loa> ikonia, software raid 1 will be faster that one hard drive?
[12:41] <ikonia> loa: why do you think that ?
[12:41] <ikonia> loa: it's a mirror so writes will be slower, some reads faster
[12:42] <ikonia> (at a basic level)
[12:42] <TJ-> amr: having fun?
[12:42] <loa> ikonia, i am about reading
[12:42] <xbob> i mean how do i make them networked? i set up both of them on virtual box as NAT
[12:42] <ikonia> loa: you certainly won't notice anything doing normal "day to day" functions
[12:42] <xbob> i want to make a simulation of ubuntu networking in virtual box
[12:42] <loa> so perfomance will be equal?
[12:42] <loa> okay.
[12:42] <antimist> Well going into recovery mode and replacing packages helped
[12:42] <ikonia> loa: you won't see any difference
[12:42] <antimist> Repairing
[12:43] <amr> TJ-: oh of course :)
[12:43] <TJ-> amr: have you figured out how to use efibootmgr to create a clone of the OS Boot Manager entry?
[12:44] <xbob> i tried the ifconfig and i notice they both have the same IP
[12:44] <amr> i have not, i was reaidng up on it
[12:44] <ikonia> xbob: I doubt they do have the same IP
[12:46] <antimist> Well okay at the moment there's only two issues, first it keeps coming up as System problem detected and the second is that my wireless driver stopped working
[12:46] <TJ-> amr: something like "sudo efibootmgr --create --bootnum 0003 --disk /dev/sda --part 1 --label 'Windows Boot Manager' --loader '\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi' " - this assumes /dev/sda is the drive, and /dev/sda1 contains the EFI system partition that is mounted at "/boot/efi/"
[12:47] <TJ-> amr: after trying it, use "sudo efibootmgr -v" to check the new entry is identical to the Boot0001 entry
[12:47] <amr> and then remove 0001 and make rename 0002 to 0001?
[12:48] <amr> i dont think those changes would stay permanent
[12:48] <antimist> And there's something about the crash of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/indicator-keyboard-service
[12:48] <xbob> xbob@xbob-VirtualBox:~$ ifconfig eth0
[12:48] <xbob> eth0      Link encap:
[12:48] <xbob>           inet addr:10.0.2.15  Bcast:10.0.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:48] <xbob>           inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe4b:8f4/64 Scope:Link
[12:48] <xbob>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:49] <xbob>           RX packets:2214 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:49] <unopaste> xbob you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:49] <TJ-> amr: I suspect that on your system /dev/sda2 contains the EFI SP, so you'd need "--part 2"
[12:50] <xbob> xbob@xbob-VirtualBox:~$ ifconfig eth0
[12:50] <xbob> eth0      Link encap:
[12:50] <xbob>           inet addr:10.0.2.15  Bcast:10.0.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:50] <xbob>           inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe4b:8f4/64 Scope:Link
[12:50] <xbob>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:50] <xbob>           RX packets:2214 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:50] <unopaste> xbob you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:50] <antimist> Someone kick him out
[12:50] <TJ-> amr: Yes, once the clone is identical, do "sudo efibootmgr --delete-bootnum 0001" and then you'd need to create a new 0001 entry for Ubuntu
[12:50] <amr> eek
[12:51] <YokoBR> guys, does anybody knows a good whcms for ubuntu: opensource or free, with pt_BR translations
[12:51] <TJ-> amr: so that'd be something like "sudo efibootmgr --create --bootnum 0001 --disk /dev/sda --part 2 --label 'Ubuntu' --loader '\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi'
[12:52] <ikonia> YokoBR: ask in #ubuntu-br but I believe there is portuguese tranlations already available
[12:52] <geirha> xbob: in the settings for the virtual box, create a new network device "attached to" internal network
[12:52] <geirha> *virtual machine
[12:52] <TJ-> amr: As i said earlier, check the partition number: "mount | grep efi"
[12:52] <YokoBR> ok, thanks ikonia
[12:53] <keenguitar> can someone help me with this error: Mount failed for selinuxfs on /sys/fs/selinux: No such file or directory. I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and it works except that message at startup
[12:53] <xbob> sorry guys
[12:53] <antimist> Sigh okay later then I have no idea if I have a problem or not
[12:53] <mikemike123> I have a Synology NAS and having issues mounting a shared NFS volume via the terminal. The error I keep receiving is `mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.8:/volume1/main`. I also have the following entry in my /etc/fstab, `192.168.1.8:/volume1/main /mnt/main nfs rw,hard,intr,nolock 0 0`. How can I fix this mounting issue?
[12:54] <geirha> mikemike123: What does the server's export line look like?
[12:54] <mikemike123> geirha, How can I view that?
[12:54] <keenguitar> anyone?
[12:54] <geirha> mikemike123: /etc/exports
[12:55] <mikemike123> geirha, um, let's see if I can SSH into the server.
[12:56] <geirha> mikemike123: Note that if /volume1 is what is exported, /volume1 is what you must mount, not /volume1/main
[12:57] <mikemike123> Oh, `main` is the name of the share. thought that's what i needed.
[12:57] <bongoman> Hi, anybody here running Ubuntu on a Chromebook C720?
[12:59] <keenguitar> can someone help me with this error: Mount failed for selinuxfs on /sys/fs/selinux: No such file or directory. I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and it works except that message at startup
[12:59] <eeee> amr: TJ- i got it to work by switching both files, bootx64.efi and bootmgfw.efi , (when i switched bootmgfw.efi earlier it was after i switched back bootx64)
[13:00] <xbob> another question is, i have installed a gui in the server and now it boots like a desktop already, is there a way to turn it on or off?
[13:01] <sydney> Oki recently reinstalled a gateway m-1617 laptop that had windows vista to lubuntu 14.04. i got 2 hours of battery time with vista,but with lubuntu i only get 1 hour. :-/ Is there some way to fix this?
[13:01] <eeee> amr: TJ- however, grub shows up only on the left side of the screen (you can see the menu entries), why so?
[13:01] <mikemike123> geirha, I have `/dev/md2 /volume1 ext4 usrjquota=aquota.user,grpjquota=aquota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0,synoacl 0 0` in my servers fstab.
[13:01] <antimist> Looks like I got it fixed
[13:02] <antimist> Apologies for the inconviniece
[13:02] <antimist> I just ran ubuntu in recovery mode
[13:02] <eeee> amr: TJ-  it's black on the right side and it seemed to hang before loading ubuntu
[13:02] <sydney> But lubuntu wont alow me to dim my screen either..
[13:02] <antimist> and selected dpkg to repair packages
[13:02] <eeee> maybe cuz i used shimx64.efi instead of grubx64.efi ? though in efibootmgr it seemed my ubuntu entry uses shimx64.efi
[13:03] <antimist> Still a linux noob here
[13:03] <antimist> sorry
[13:03] <sydney> Ihave all the latest updates
[13:04] <gisli_> Hello anyone know why I get Segment Fault in json in ruby on rails + passenger + apache2
[13:04] <TJ-> eeee: That sounds like an EFI video driver issue
[13:04] <eeee> TJ-: usually grub loads up without issues
[13:04] <TJ-> eeee: shimx64.efi is there to handle user/distro key-signing in the event of SecureBoot
[13:05] <eeee> TJ-: yeah, i thought it was odd, since i installed ubuntu with secureboot disabled
[13:05] <TJ-> eeee: It seems as if HP are doing something really stupid with their implemention on those systems; it's not like this on servers
[13:05] <geirha> mikemike123: that's not relevant, it's /etc/exports that define the nfs shares
[13:05] <ikonia> gisli_: could be 10000 reasons
[13:05] <patates> Hi, any way to change the guest account's name on login screen?
[13:06] <ikonia> patates: change the guests real name in the user manager
[13:06] <mikemike123> geirha, My apologies. `/volume1/Main	192.168.1.6(rw,async,no_wdelay,no_root_squash,insecure_locks,sec=sys,anonuid=1025,anongid=`
[13:06] <TJ-> eeee: if you want to use SecureBoot with the default Ubuntu grub packages you need the package "shim-signed" and "grub-efi-amd64-signed"
[13:06] <patates> ikonia, I think guest is not an user name..
[13:06] <gisli_> ikonia : I have been trying uninstalling, reinstalling, installing and I just dont get it to work. I have also a vmware machine with ubuntu and it works there, but I dont know where the issue might be. I am stomped.
[13:06] <patates> It is created on the fly
[13:07] <patates> like guest-"random"
[13:07] <ikonia> patates it is
[13:07] <ikonia> patates: and it has a real name
[13:07] <TJ-> eeee: I wonder if the issue is grub not setting a video mode, which the Windows boot manager does set.
[13:07] <eeee> TJ-: both are installed
[13:07] <ikonia> gisli_: you'd need to analyise the crash dump
[13:07] <gisli_> issue = json-1.8.1/lib/json/common.rb:67: [BUG] Segmentation fault
[13:07] <gisli_> ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [x86_64-linux]
[13:07] <ikonia> gisli_: however if it works on one machine but not another start working through the differences
[13:08] <mjayk> I currently have a swap partition is there anyway to resize it and add the remainder to /
[13:08] <mikemike123> geirha, It seems to be that I get access denied because the NFS share doesn't reconize my Ubuntu username?
[13:08] <ikonia> mjayk: sure use a livecd and gparted
[13:08] <patates> ikonia: Well I can't see it in user config thing. Maybe because I am on xubuntu?
[13:08] <TJ-> eeee:  That means it is likely you are using the signed shim then, not the one from the "shim" package that needs your own key in the firmwares key database
[13:08] <mjayk> merci ikonia
[13:08] <ikonia> patates: nope
[13:08] <gisli_> ikonia : I am pretty new to linux so I am not sure where to start searching
[13:09] <ikonia> gisli_: start looking at the differences in how the two machines are setup, software versions etc
[13:09] <geirha> mikemike123: that says /volume1/Main  while you tried to mount /volume1/main
[13:09] <gisli_> I will try
[13:09] <mikemike123> geirha, I can't believe I missed that typo for so long... Thank you!
[13:10] <patates> ikonia: no guest in $ cat /etc/passwd
[13:10] <TJ-> eeee: your experience makes sense if what I hypothesised is correct... It tries Boot0001 (bootmgfew.efi), then tries Boot002 (BIOS boot via MBR - but the disk has no MBR boot-strap code in sector 0) so it falls back to the removable media default path of "\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI"
[13:10] <gisli_> ikonia : I think I might found the issue, the version installed is ruby 2.1.2p95 but passenger might be trying to use ruby 1.9.3p484
[13:11] <ikonia> patates there will be an account refereremced as guest
[13:11] <TJ-> eeee: excuse my typos... fingers and brain are suffering interference :)
[13:11] <mikemike123> geirha, Much appreciated for your help. :)
[13:11] <eeee> :)
[13:12] <patates> ikonia, there is not, any way, thanks.
[13:12] <geirha> mikemike123: you're welcome :)
[13:12] <ikonia> patates: there has to be or it can't be presented as a login option
[13:13] <sydney> Powertop is telling me this http://s30.postimg.org/651mpwaep/2014_08_16_090946_1280x800_scrot.png but i dont know how to change anything :-/
[13:13] <patates> ikonia: could you check yours ?
[13:13] <ikonia> patates: I have a different setup, mine would not be a sane reference point
[13:13] <eeee> TJ-: i wonder if we could get windows to load grub
[13:15] <TJ-> eeee: I'm not sure if the Windows boot manager will load another UEFI module; it can do it with a legacy installation
[13:16] <patates> ikonia: check /usr/sbin/guest-account it says add_account ()
[13:16] <ikonia> patates: I don't have that as I have a different setup as I said
[13:16] <patates> I think I have to rename some string in lightdm not in users
[13:17] <patates> ikonia. But but.. you are missleading me
[13:17] <ikonia> patates: it appears it's dynamically created
[13:17] <ikonia> patates: and then removed on logout
[13:17] <patates> I can see that..
[13:17] <ikonia> patates: looks like it's been that way since 11.10
[13:19] <jack-> 14.04 is trusty, right?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> jack-  yes
[13:19] <jack-> is it still current?
[13:20] <jack-> or is u... out already
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> jack-  unicorn will be released in october
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> jack-  .04 and .10 mean the 4thmonth and the 10th month
[13:28] <TJ-> amr: still around, I may have another option for you
[13:28] <eeee> TJ-: i tried changing the boot order in efibootmgr as you suggested earlier, restarted, then tried deleting both files, bootx64.efi and bootmgfw.efi, and grub is working!
[13:28] <TJ-> Really?!!?!
[13:29] <eeee> TJ-: only problem now is that windows entry complains that bootmgfw.efi doesn't exist, so update-grub is in order? (i have it backed up in the same folder)
[13:29] <TJ-> eeee: That's great news, so the theory is correct then? It starts counting at 0001 and ignores 0000 as invalid most likely
[13:29] <TJ-> eeee: did you put the orginal bootmgfw.efi back ?
[13:29] <eeee> TJ-: actually i only changed ubuntu to be the first entry, (it is 0000), but somehow deleting both files fixed grub
[13:30] <TJ-> eeee: Hmmm, that is even weirder, but still it is progress
[13:30] <hhtest> hey  guys, I installed maven sdk in my machine but I should everytime configure it path in my machine to let in work. why?
[13:30] <eeee> TJ-: i just checked efibootmgw -v
[13:30] <sebeo> hello
[13:30] <TJ-> eeee: You know that page I linked you guys to, with the figure 4 on it? Well, go look at figure 10 and pay attention to the "Fast Boot" option... I'm wondering if that is the issue here
[13:30] <hhtest> sorry apache maven
[13:30] <snorb> hi
[13:31] <eeee> and now it changed the order to BootOrder: 3000,3002,2001,2002,2003, and the windows entry is no longer there
[13:32] <eeee> TJ-: no, the bootmgfw.efi is deleted, but i backed it up first
[13:32] <eeee> if i can get grub to load the .backup instead of bootmgfw.efi it should work right?
[13:32] <sebeo> hello
[13:32] <YokoBR> guys, i've installed redmine, but i'm getting "Forbidden"
[13:33] <TJ-> eeee: ahhh OK, if it isn't there, that makes sense :)
[13:34] <Novice201y_> Hello. How can I enable hibernation on 14.04?
[13:34] <TJ-> eeee: grub can't start the .efi it'd need to directly load the windows boot-loader from the Windows system partition in the "\boot\" directory
[13:34] <eeee> too much grub, i just issued a grub -r <pattern> in the terminal :)
[13:36] <TJ-> eeee: I'd love to know if that "Fast Boot" on the "Secure Boot Configuration" dialog is the cause
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y_  here's how you do it, moment
[13:36] <eeee> TJ-: i'll check the link
[13:36] <eeee> but when you mentioned the bios earlier i checked it thoroughly
[13:36] <eeee> nothing was there
[13:37] <TJ-> eeee: under Secure Boot ?
[13:38] <TJ-> eeee: It's on the "Security" menu
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y_  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062938/
[13:39] <yeats> hhtest: you probably need to add a directive to your ~/.bashrc to adjust the PATH environment variable - e.g. 'PATH=$PATH:/path/to/blah'
[13:41] <Guest22058> hi. i just updated to 14.04, and when I did so I got a report of a system error, and am now getting an error when I try to resolve it:  "cannot compute MD5 hash for file '/etc/bash_completion': failed to read (Input/output error)"
[13:41] <eeee> TJ-: it seems those options are for the desktop pc's only
[13:41] <TJ-> Guest22058: check the kernel log "/var/log/kern.log" - look for disk I/O error reports. Sounds like you may have a failing disk
[13:42] <TJ-> eeee: OK... shame that! unless they hid it elsewhere
[13:42] <hhtest> I'm always doing it
[13:43] <hhtest> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and I installed the latest maven 3.2.2 in my machine but the problem is that I always have to configure the path for it ?
[13:43] <Novice201y_> MonkeyDust: Thank You
[13:43] <hhtest> if I install the maven then closed it and open it again it will not be configured
[13:44] <hhtest> it gives me no maven installed
[13:44] <hhtest> after I do the configuration again then mvn -version it will work but when I close the terminal and open it again it will return to the same situation
[13:44] <hhtest> how can I solve this?
[13:45] <hhtest> yeats: I'm doing it all the time but it's not working
[13:45] <second> hello . is there a command to restart?
[13:45] <ztealmax> sudo reboot --
[13:46] <TJ-> second: "sudo reboot" you mean?
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> or sudo init 6
[13:46] <second> yes ty, i cant find a restart button anywhere, i only see logout and shutdown
[13:46] <second> TJ-, ty
[13:46] <ztealmax> reboot can be under shutdown or logout
[13:47] <ztealmax> probebly shutdown
[13:47] <TJ-> hhtest: When you close a shell terminal any changes you made in its environment go with it. For a path change to last it needs to be added to ~/.bashrc 's PATH= line, and will take effect in new shells only, until the user completely logs out, or the PC is restarted
[13:47] <second> ty ztealmax can you pleas send me message so i can test the auditory alert
[13:48] <TJ-> second: I heard someone earlier talking about that on Unity, and saying you need to hold down either Shift or Control when pressing the 'shutdown' menu option ... not sure if that is accurate since I use KDE not Unity
[13:48] <mrvadon> hello everyone
[13:48] <second> iwill try, using xubuntu xfce, ty TJ-
[13:48] <hhtest> OK your saying that I should restart my machine
[13:48] <hhtest> ?
[13:48] <TJ-> second: Then what I mentioned likely won't apply to your desktop environment then
[13:48] <hhtest> TJ: is that correct?
[13:49] <TJ-> hhtest: No, I'm not. I explained how and when a PATH change in ~/.bashrc takes effect normally
[13:49] <hhtest> TJ: what should I do now?
[13:50] <TJ-> hhtest:  in an existing bash shell session, after making changes to ~/.bashrc, you can simply re-read it via the 'source' command with ". ~/.bashrc" then "echo $PATH" should show the revised path
[13:50] <ztealmax> second: not sure how i do this, quite new at irc
[13:51] <hhtest> TJ: can you write the full command is it
[13:51] <zteam> Argh.....
[13:51] <zteam> it happened again....
[13:52] <hhtest> echo $/.bashrc
[13:52] <zteam> Why is it that sometimes Unitys app lense stops working?
[13:53] <zteam> anyone know a way around that issue?
[13:55] <Guest22058> TJ-, thank you. is there a way I can view /var/log/kern.log in a file so I can search for error reports rather than in the terminal?
[13:55] <eeee> Guest22058: dash > system logs
[13:56] <TJ-> urghh :)  ... I prefer "less" so I can use regular expressions to search efficiently
[13:58] <Slart> or "most"
[13:58] <patates> any way to translate lightdm? Some lightdm string are not translateable! like Guest and unlcok
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> patates  to what language?
[14:00] <patates> turkish
[14:00] <patates> MonkeyDust: Turkish
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> patates  does the word Guest not exist in Turkish? people never invite guests in Turkey?
[14:00] <eeee> TJ-: grub is working, and loading the windows entry now, i changed the line chainloader ..bootmgfw.efi to the backup file in the grub.cfg,
[14:01] <patates> MonkeyDust: I don't get it.. are you joking or what? It should be "Misafir"
[14:01] <eeee> TJ-: i couldn't find any mention of bootmgfw.efi in the grub.d's os prober file
[14:01] <eeee> so i changed it manually
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> patates  google translate says it's "konuk"
[14:02] <eeee> any idea how i could change it properly in the os prober file so it doesn't disappear every time i update-grub ?
[14:02] <TJ-> eeee: that's great :)
[14:02] <patates> MonkeyDust: It doesn't really matter if it is Misafir or konuk. But it should be one of those
[14:03] <TJ-> eeee: I seem to recall bootmgfw.efi is hard-coded in the "os-prober" script
[14:03] <k1l_> patates: talk to the translations team for turkish, some words are not translated in most languages.
[14:03] <simpleuser> I have ‘j’ and ‘k’ as default shortcuts on evince to go up and down. My keyboard layout is quite different than QWERTY so I’d like to replace these keys respectively by ‘t’ and ‘s’. How to do that?
[14:03] <eeee> TJ-: oh, i see
[14:04] <patates> I guess thats one of those words. Could anybody with a language pack other than en or tr confirm that it says Guest too?
[14:05] <M17> ciao
[14:06] <M17> dove si possono scaricare film e musica ?
[14:06] <eeee> !it | M17
[14:06] <TJ-> eeee: just amend "/usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft"
[14:07] <bonhoeffer> hmmm -- computer went blank on an upgrade -- now i can't get it to post
[14:07] <bonhoeffer> any options?
[14:07] <TJ-> eeee: the line "bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi "$efi/$microsoft/$boot")" looks to be the only change needed; replace "bootmgfw.efi" with whatever the backup is called
[14:07] <bonhoeffer> absolutely no feedback on the monitor . . . i imagine disconnect preferials
[14:08] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Won't POST? remove battery, press power button for 5 seconds, drain capacitors... replace battery, try again ?
[14:08] <funkymonkey> im having a trixy problem, after upgrade to 14.04 can only se top left corner of desktop. cant change resolution in display settings cus i cant reach the apply button :), is there a way to cange the resolution via command line or some thing?
[14:08] <bonhoeffer> pulled all usb devices -- still no post
[14:08] <arun_> does the mass storage work with Nokia Lumia in Ubuntu ??
[14:08] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: is it getting power?
[14:09] <bonhoeffer> or output to the monitor "getting no signal" -- maybe this is a hardware issue -- yes -- hd status light turns on -- fan spins
[14:09] <TJ-> funky1: "xrandr" might help if you select a lower resolution
[14:09] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: sounds like it died :(
[14:11] <bonhoeffer> switching monitor to onboard graphics -- hmm .. . nothing
[14:11] <funkymonkey> TJ: exacly but cant cus i cant click on the apply resolution button cus that one is in the lower right corner :)
[14:11] <bonhoeffer> looks like a #hardware issue
[14:12] <yofun> So in Windows my fan doesn't turn on often,in kubuntu it seems to turn on more often
[14:12] <yofun> Should I be worried? Grabbed the wrong ISO
[14:12] <yofun> ?
[14:12] <TJ-> funkymonkey: "xrandr" is a command line tool. Try "xrandr -d :0.0 -q" at a VT to see the valid modelines
[14:13] <patates> Guys, I've found it, Looks like turkish translation var missing. I'll report to turkish team, thanks
[14:13] <funkymonkey> TJ-: cool il get right at it
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> patates  i misunderstood your question, thought you didnt know how to translate Guest
[14:14] <phillyj> anyone know if there is a CLI tool to test the down/up speeds on my modem/router? I can see the info on my modem-status webpage but I want to use it for another script
[14:14] <eeee> TJ-: thanks!
[14:14] <phillyj> *not "test", more like report the status
[14:15] <TJ-> phillyj: if the modem has a telnet or ssh server you could write an "expect" script to do it, probably
[14:15] <eeee> it's all working now :)
[14:15] <TJ-> phillyj: otherwise you'll need to screen-scrape the HTML
[14:15] <TJ-> eeee: I think amr went to sleep on us :)
[14:16] <k1l_> phillyj: that is more a task to see what the router/modem gives you to get that informations thatn an ubunut task
[14:16] <eeee> hehe yeah :)
[14:16] <yofun> So in Windows my fan doesn't turn on often,in Linux it seems to turn on more often , Should I be worried?
[14:16] <funkymonkey> TJ-: i got plenty of options, but how do i apply a new resolution?
[14:16] <TJ-> eeee: I'll add this issue to my Linux boot guide
[14:16] <TJ-> funkymonkey: "man xrandr"
[14:17] <eeee> cool
[14:17] <k1l_> yofun: take a look at the temperatures. that is what should make worries, not how often a fan spins
[14:17] <funkymonkey> TJ-:  :)
[14:18] <phillyj> k1l_: is there a linux networking channel on freenode where I can get some help?
[14:18] <k1l_> you could ask in ##networking
[14:18] <phillyj> thx
[14:19] <phillyj> yofun: try the sensors command to check your speeds
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> yofun  in 14.04, my videocard's fan didn't turn on at all, it forced me back to 12.04, so be glad it turns on often
[14:19] <TJ-> funkymonkey: See the "EXAMPLES" section. Something like "xrandr -d :0.0 --output HDMI-0 --mode 1280x1024"
[14:19] <yofun> MonkeyDust: my fear is I grabbed the wrong ISO or something,  and using too much cpu
[14:20] <arun_> does the mass storage work with Nokia Lumia in Ubuntu ??
[14:20] <funkymonkey> TJ-:  sweet cus that was all greek to me
[14:23] <yofun> phillyj: what is the sensors command?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> yofun  install lm-sensors, then use    watch -n 1 -d sensors
[14:25] <yofun> Lol, I'm on a live CD so
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> yofun  shouldnt make a difference
[14:25] <yeats> yofun: you can install things even on the live CD - it gets installed to RAM
[14:27] <M17> Is there a version of mirc for ubuntu ?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> M17  xchat would be the closest, i guess
[14:28] <yofun> I prefer kvirc
[14:28] <funkymonkey> TJ-:  here is the problem no mattar what mode i select it sayes " cannot find mode 1024x768" or 800x600 any clue what i shuld do?
[14:29] <tomooka> asd
[14:29] <bluenemo> hi guys. I want to install the nvidia driver for my quadro fx 3800 on 14.04. I'm stumbling upon the nouveau driver being loaded on boot, even though its blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf as described in many tutorials. any hints on getting rid of nouveau for good? I also uninstalled xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, no look so far :(
[14:30] <BammBamm> can any help me with Testdisk or disk recovery
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> BammBamm: wassup
[14:32] <BammBamm> I've used testdisk on two of my partitition but they still won't boot
[14:33] <bluenemo> BammBamm, you might want to /join #digital-forensic
[14:33] <BammBamm> ok
[14:33] <bluenemo> highly recommend that channel.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> BammBamm: have you ran fsck on the partition....
[14:34] <BammBamm> ActionParsnip: no, how do i do that?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> BammBamm: probably easier to reinstall then reinstate your userdata using your backups
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> BammBamm: you'll need the partition unmounted to fsck it, lots of guides online
[14:34] <bluenemo> BammBamm, may I HIGHLY recommend to get an "dd" image from your hard drive before attemting any  recovery yourself.
[14:35] <BammBamm> what's dd again?
[14:35] <bluenemo> with every error, every operation that is not protected from writes, you WILL loose data
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> BammBamm: dd copies data from one filesytem to another
[14:35] <bluenemo> dd is a tool that lets you copy your drive bit by bit. you then have a 'copy' of your drive. if you have a 500G drive, you will get a 500g files with exactly that content
[14:35] <BammBamm> it's like an image?
[14:36] <bluenemo> BammBamm, yes. Is your drive failing (making strange noise and stuff)? or do you have a software problem?
[14:36] <bluenemo> (as in cant mount partitions as for broken filesystem or so)
[14:36] <amr> TJ-: eeee sorry!
[14:36] <amr> you guys make any progress?
[14:36] <eeee> amr: it's been solved
[14:37] <amr> holy crap youre kidding
[14:37] <themhz> hi can somone help me install hp scanjet 200 on ubuntu 12.04
[14:37] <amr> how'd you do it?
[14:37] <amr> so your efi boot can now choose between windows or ubuntu?
[14:37] <amr> does it load up grub?
[14:38] <BammBamm> bluenemo: no strainge noises, afaik strictly software, i moved the first partition over the 1MB of empty space, i guess that broke the MBR or somethings
[14:38] <raggg> if i install a mainline kernel, do i need to reinstall anything that installs kernel modules like tpl?
[14:38] <eeee> amr: yeah
[14:38] <bluenemo> BammBamm, answering in #digital-forensic, as there are mostly experts regarding that topic also working in the forensics field
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> amr: let me searh some
[14:38] <eeee> amr: you have to delete both files
[14:39] <eeee> ActionParsnip: already been solved
[14:39] <amr> eeee: which files?
[14:40] <bonhoeffer> are there troubleshooting options -- system is not posting
[14:40] <eeee> amr: cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[14:40] <skinux> Is there a way to search for an environment variable?
[14:40] <eeee> amr: rather make that "mv" instead of "cp"
[14:40] <bonhoeffer> cpu spins -- reset ram -- can't get any signal from the pc -- not even hearing beep on start now
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> eeee: doesn't seem so
[14:40] <bonhoeffer> changed video input -- graphics card to onboard -- no difference
[14:40] <eeee> amr: that will rename the bootmgfw.efi file that efibootmgr -v was showing earlier
[14:41] <bonhoeffer> really frustrating -- and interested in any options
[14:41] <eeee> ActionParsnip: i had the same problem on my pc, it's working no
[14:41] <eeee> *now
[14:41] <amr> ok renamed, now what?
[14:41] <amr> :-)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> eeee: ok I'll let you advise amr
[14:41] <eeee> amr: ok you have to rename the other bootx64.efi file as well
[14:41] <amr> i dont see that file
[14:42] <bluenemo> anybody got an idea why my initramfs seems to still load nouveau even after blacklisting it in /etc/modprobe.d and update-initramfs -u ?
[14:42] <amr> $ ls boot*
[14:42] <amr> bootmgfw.efi.backup  bootmgr.efi  boot.stl
[14:42] <eeee> mv /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[14:42] <amr> oh
[14:42] <amr> wrong dir
[14:43] <amr> ok, renamed both files
[14:43] <eeee> now, you got to change the bootorder like we did before, with efibootmgr -v
[14:43] <eeee> do it again, putting 0000 first
[14:43] <eeee> ctrl+r and type efibootmgr to get the command you used
[14:43] <amr> the bootrder one, right?
[14:44] <eeee> yeah
[14:44] <amr> sudo efibootmgr --bootorder 0000,0001,3001,2001,3002,3003
[14:44] <amr> done
[14:44] <amr> BootOrder: 0000,0001,3001,2001,3002,3003
[14:44] <eeee> ok, now when i restarted everything worked fine, except grub wouldn't load windows it complained about not finding the bootmgfw.efi file
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Themhz: if you use command line, does sane find the scanner?
[14:44] <amr> i had the same problem, sort of
[14:45] <amr> grub wouldnt load windows, it just came up with an unable to start error
[14:45] <themhz> ActionParsnip, yes I see it but it but I cant use it
[14:45] <amr> optiosn were like "restart" or "reset"
[14:45] <eeee> it's not in the grub.d os prober files, so i changed it in the grub.cfg file to bootmgfw.efi.backup and it worked
[14:45] <eeee> but that means every time you do update-grub you'd have to rename it again
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Themhz: try installing xsane, does it help?
[14:45] <themhz> I see the device on the list
[14:46] <eeee> anyways TJ- gave me a file that os prober uses
[14:46] <eeee> hold on
[14:46] <amr> eeee: that's fine, how often do you update-grub? :)
[14:46] <themhz> ActionParsnip, Ok I will check xsane
[14:46] <eeee> amr: nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> themhz: also try: gksudo xsane , it may just be a permissions issue. If so we can look into grouo memberships
[14:47] <eeee> there's the line bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi , change it to bootmgfw.efi.backup
[14:47] <eeee> and when you update-grub it'll be there
[14:47] <sere> Question : I installed printer drivers and thats works fine but no joy for the scanner do i need to install something else?
[14:47] <eeee> amr: still, it's more proper, also every time the kernel changes i think update-grub would run
[14:47] <amr> gotcha
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Is efi really worth it?
[14:47] <amr> oh really?
[14:47] <eeee> ill brb
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> sere: what make and model printer?
[14:48] <amr> so changing this file means that when update-grub runs itll be ok?
[14:48] <eeee> amr: yeah, do cp 20microsoft 20microsoft.backup
[14:48] <eeee> and edit it
[14:48] <raggg> if my laptop is certified by ubuntu as compatible with 12.04 does that mean its also going to work with 14.04?
[14:49] <amr> why .backup?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> raggg: its likely
[14:49] <sere> ActionParsnip: canon mg5300
[14:49] <eeee> or just edit it again, doesn't matter
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> sere: why was that not on he initial question?
[14:50] <sere> ActionParsnip: does that help me?
[14:50] <amr> let me reboot, see if this works
[14:50] <themhz> ActionParsnip, Installed xsane. I run sudo xsane and i get a message, "scanning for devices" and then no devices available :/
[14:50] <raggg> ActionParsnip: 14.04 is having strange issues, worth trying 12.04?
[14:50] <sere> ActionParsnip: if you can contribute do so...otherwise you arent helping
[14:51] <themhz> ActionParsnip, even though with lsusb I can see the device listed
[14:52] <sere> themhz: i get the same problem aswell
[14:52] <perlmonkey> hello
[14:53] <skinux> How can I search through environment variables?
[14:53] <themhz> sere, you using hp scanject 200 to?
[14:53] <skinux> I need to find TomCat 7 home directory
[14:53] <themhz> in windows It works well btw, so the device has no problem
[14:54] <sere> themhz: no im using a canon mg5300
[14:54] <sere> themhz: can you print?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> skinux  try env
[14:54] <skinux> Okay. It's what I thought it was. Unfortunately, there is no conf directory
[14:55] <perlmonkey> I have a problem I wonder if someone can help with, my server is running out of disk space, cuz its partitioned badly.. /dev/sda1 (/root) = 14GB  of which 99% in use, /dev/sda2 (/home) = 447GB of which 29% in use. I want to move some folders from root to the sda2 partition to make more space available? is this wise/safe? this server is remote btw, I can't afford downtime
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> skinux  there's the hidden folder ~/.conf
[14:55] <amr> eeee: TJ- that worked
[14:55] <amr> on first reboot
[14:55] <themhz> sere, I am using HP deskjet 1015 and downloaded hplip in order to make the printer work. I also needed to change some usb ports in order to be detected. But yes it works for me
[14:55] <amr> but didnt stick
[14:55] <amr> i booted into windows and then rebooted
[14:55] <amr> and grub wasnt there, went to windows
[14:55] <themhz> My scanner is not though. I thought hp supports linux :/ thats why I got all my stuff from hp
[14:56] <skinux> I have a hidden '.config', but not '.conf'
[14:56] <perlmonkey> I cannot reboot the machine either btw, not even remotely, as it seems to have some error, which requires a CTRL+D to proceed booting
[14:56] <amr> EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi is back...
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> skinux  then .config is what I meant
[14:56] <eeee> amr: i didn't try rebooting again
[14:56] <perlmonkey> any help/suggestions appreciated, even if it just frees up a bit of space over weekend until a more permanent solution is in place
[14:56] <skinux> It doesn't have anything for TomCat
[14:56] <eeee> i just checked the efibootmgr -v, and windows was not there anymore
[14:56] <perlmonkey> I have deleted all big logs in /var/log
[14:56] <amr> bootorder was also reverted
[14:57] <skinux> So, I guess installation of TomCat via repo doesn't have any default configurations?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> skinux  try locate tomcat (or Tomcat)
[14:57] <eeee> amr: yeah, but is windows there again? mine wasn't
[14:57] <amr> yeap
[14:57] <amr> BootOrder: 0001,3001,0000,2001,2002,2003
[14:57] <eeee> amr: over here, the order was reverted, but windows entry disappeared
[14:57] <eeee> let me try to reboot again, see what happens
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> skinux  or whereis tomcat
[14:58] <skinux> configtest.sh complains it cannot find /usr/share/tomcat7/conf/server.xml
[14:59] <skinux> It is right! Conf directory doesn't exist
[14:59] <skinux> Why did Ubuntu install TomCat without any default configuration files???
[15:01] <skinux> Maybe I need to follow instructions from StackOverflow, install from tarball and move files into appropriate Ubuntu directory structure.
[15:01] <skinux> Or...I could download it and simply move configuration files.
[15:01] <amr> wb eeee
[15:01] <eeee> thanks
[15:01] <eeee> it's still working here
[15:01] <amr> oh what
[15:01] <amr> :(
[15:02] <eeee> i think you have a bootmgfw.efi file somewhere which it is using
[15:02] <eeee> i don't think i did anything else,
[15:02] <amr> the .backup file is gone
[15:02] <eeee> i did an update-grub to test, but that's irrelevant i think
[15:03] <amr> /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot$ ls boot*
[15:03] <amr> bootmgfw.efi  bootmgr.efi  boot.stl
[15:03] <TJ-> amr: It looks like the HP boot loader runs first and 'fixes up' things... the boot info script showed "/EFI/HP/boot/bootmgfw.efi" and one other, but they don't appear in the boot-menu list, I would suspect they may be what is doing this
[15:03] <eeee> amr: ^^ rename HP/boot/bootbgfw.efi
[15:03] <TJ-> amr: and there's also "/EFI/HP/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi"
[15:04] <amr> yeah i did that one
[15:04] <amr> i think...
[15:04] <amr> hang on
[15:04] <amr> this one too, right?
[15:04] <amr> the MS one
[15:04] <eeee> amr: rename the /EFI/Microsoft/Boot ones
[15:04] <darkxploit> hello.. i have wrongly  uninstall apache and deleted /etc/apache2 [debian] but the service is still on. ANy idea how to stop it        tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN      12709/apache2                        service apache2 stop dont work usr/sbin/apache2 dont exist, kill -9 on the pid keeps on changing
[15:05] <eeee> ../HP/ ones as well
[15:05] <eeee> then change the bootorder again
[15:06] <amr> ok those two are done
[15:06] <amr> bootorder update done
[15:06] <TJ-> amr: eeee It sounds like you're laying whack-a-mole
[15:06] <amr> haha
[15:06] <TJ-> s/laying/playing/
[15:06] <eeee> lol
[15:07] <funkymonkey>  i have a folder on my desktop ownd by root, how do i take back ownership of my pics?
[15:07] <eeee> i was about to tell him to sudo find / -iname bootmgfw.efi
[15:07] <eeee> and maybe add a -exec mv there :D
[15:07] <amr> i almost did that
[15:07] <amr> :p
[15:07] <perlmonkey> funkmonkey: chown name
[15:07] <amr> ok theyre all done
[15:07] <perlmonkey> don't forget sudo
[15:07] <amr> reboot
[15:07] <amr> brb
[15:08] <funkymonkey> TJ-:  tanx for the help with the res, you are my hero :)
[15:08] <perlmonkey> funkymonkey: sudo chown username directory
[15:08] <perlmonkey> ;-)
[15:08] <funkymonkey> perlmonkey: tnx, btw nice name :)
[15:09] <djpoo> hi guys i'm looking for alittle help new with ubuntu
[15:09] <perlmonkey> funkymonkey check group also, make sure folder/user group matches up ok else could encounter permission probs
[15:09] <kunal27891> Where can i get information about gsoc 2015 ?
[15:10] <BammBamm> is there a channel for data recovery, undeleting partitions etc.
[15:10] <amr> nope, same deal
[15:10] <perlmonkey> funkmonkey cheers! two monkey's doing monkeybiz together ;-)
[15:10] <funkymonkey> perlmonkey: ok, got it
[15:10] <amr> works on first reboot, i booted into windows, rebooted, then no more grub
[15:10] <kunal27891> which channel can provide information about gsoc ?
[15:10] <TJ-> amr: Then something in windows is replacing itself then... I thought you meant the firmware was doing it
[15:10]  * BammBamm thinks it's a monkey cage in here
[15:10] <amr> ive no idea what it is
[15:11] <TJ-> amr: There's some kind of boot-recovery-checker option going on.
[15:11]  * perlmonkey has been to the top of Gibraltar Rock and sat with the real monkey's and they didn't do much codes
[15:11] <perlmonkey> but they did eat a lot and sunbath
[15:11] <perlmonkey> screwed quite a bit too, lucky monkey's
[15:11] <djpoo> i install kali tools in my ubuntu 14.04 but i don;t understand where the hell the menu
[15:12] <perlmonkey> sorry off-topic
[15:12] <amr> http://superuser.com/questions/525953/windows-8-changes-boot-order
[15:12] <amr> A Microsoft representative answered my question on their official forum. They said that this is indeed the normal behaviour.
[15:12] <amr> typical
[15:12]  * BammBamm rocks perlmonkey
[15:12] <djpoo> anyone can help me?
[15:13]  * perlmonkey has Windows 7 running and I swear that is totally screwed up release, wifi breaks 20x a day, it does like new updates daily, wtf is all that
[15:13] <perlmonkey> MS is slipping
[15:13] <perlmonkey> BammBamm =)
[15:13] <perlmonkey> MS has released MORE updates for Windows 7 than the original size of the OS, i swear they re-released it in updates without telling us
[15:14] <eeee> amr: win8.1 or win8 ?
[15:14] <funkymonkey> perlmonkey: tnx a bunch its all done and it worked well
[15:14] <TJ-> amr: Yes, let me look through MSDN see if there's an article in the KB about it
[15:14] <ikonia> perlmonkey: not interested in that here
[15:14] <amr> im on 8.1
[15:14] <eeee> im on 8
[15:14] <perlmonkey> funkymonkey cool bro
[15:14] <amr> which HP do you have, eeee ?
[15:14] <eeee> amr: i just remembered, i dont have the original EFI partition that came with the laptop
[15:14] <perlmonkey> can anyone help with my data squeeze prob? is it safe to attempt to mess with partitions on root remotely?
[15:15] <davidsong> desktop search has gone a bit funny since the last update, it sometimes doesn't find anything. is this a known problem?
[15:15] <amr> oh?
[15:15] <ikonia> perlmonkey: no it's not
[15:15] <perlmonkey> *directories I mean
[15:15] <perlmonkey> ok
[15:15] <eeee> amr: pavilion g6
[15:15] <perlmonkey> anything I do to free up space short term measure until Monday (I already deleted all big logs and cron'd to null)
[15:15] <perlmonkey> *can
[15:15] <ikonia> perlmonkey: delete stuff you don't need
[15:15] <ikonia> perlmonkey: it's that simple
[15:16] <perlmonkey> like what, we're talking ROOT dude, I don't wanna take the sys down
[15:16] <perlmonkey> and I can't afford a reboot remotely
[15:16] <ikonia> perlmonkey: then don't touch it
[15:16] <perlmonkey> it will run of out space its at 99% and i'll be screwed
[15:16] <ikonia> perlmonkey: how big is your partition
[15:16] <perlmonkey> 14GB
[15:17] <ikonia> perlmonkey: then most of that is user data
[15:17] <perlmonkey> I have a /home 500GB 29% in use
[15:17] <perlmonkey> home is mounted on separate
[15:17] <ikonia> perlmonkey: clear down packages you don't need
[15:17] <perlmonkey> ok
[15:17] <ikonia> perlmonkey: ubuntu is around 4GB by default
[15:17] <perlmonkey> good idea
[15:17] <ikonia> perlmonkey: so you've put 10G of stuff on there
[15:17] <davidsong> perlmonkey: use ssh -X to connect then run baobab
[15:17] <TJ-> amr: this could be a function of MS's "Early Launch Anti-Malware (ELAM)"
[15:17] <perlmonkey> hmm which stuff would be non-essential on a server and BIG?
[15:18] <perlmonkey> i have no desktop afaik
[15:18] <ikonia> perlmonkey: that's up to you - it's your server
[15:18] <ikonia> perlmonkey: we don't know what you are using
[15:18] <davidsong> perlmonkey: you are connecting from a linux desktop with X, right?
[15:18] <perlmonkey> let'ssee..
[15:18] <Datz> Hi, my GUI has frozen. I'm using ubuntu with gnome fallback how can I restart my gui?
[15:18] <perlmonkey> no way, I'm ssh'd in, this is headless server, just LAMP
[15:18] <ikonia> perlmonkey: it has more than lamp installed if its 14GB
[15:18] <perlmonkey> I dont even have a screen on this server in office
[15:19] <perlmonkey> yeah it must be, so what shite can go eh
[15:19] <davidsong> perlmonkey: are you connecting to it from a linux machine?
[15:19] <perlmonkey> yes
[15:19] <ikonia> perlmonkey: tone down the language
[15:19] <ikonia> perlmonkey: you've been here often enough to know the rules
[15:19] <TJ-> eeee: amr "There lies a catch however. In a PC with dual OS requirement, of which one is to be Windows 8 and another non-Windows, there can exist only a single UEFI OS as the platform firmware. If Windows 8 is to be the primary OS, then obviously Microsoft UEFI will assume the role of platform firmware. The extent to which Microsoft UEFI will support the booting of other operating systems from within its own UEFI, is a policy matter that is ongoing evolution among
[15:19] <TJ-> st OS vendors as part of the UEFI committee. One thing is clear though; PCs manufactured by OEMs under the Windows 8 logo program, will not permit dual OS."
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> sere: because if you don't give full details, we can't help. We cannot see your system.....
[15:19] <davidsong> perlmonkey: connect using "ssh -X you@servername" to forward X11 over SSH
[15:19] <TJ-> eeee: amr half way down the page  @  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-security/uefi-secure-boot-in-windows-81/65d74e19-9572-4a91-85aa-57fa783f0759
[15:19] <Datz> anyone, how can I restart my GUI?
[15:19] <perlmonkey> ikonia i think you're confusing me with someone else, this is my 2nd or 3rd visit only, but point taken
[15:19] <davidsong> perlmonkey: then run baobab, it will run the "disk usage analyzer" and show its user interface locally
[15:19] <perlmonkey> davidsong thanks
[15:20] <davidsong> perlmonkey: it's much better than using "du -h" to figure out where all the space is being wasted
[15:20]  * perlmonkey does it
[15:20] <Datz> twas nice when something like /etc/inti.d/gmd restart worked
[15:20] <yofun> Ok
[15:20] <yofun> Oh
[15:20] <perlmonkey> davidsong cheers =)
[15:20] <eeee> Datz: sudo service lightdm restart
[15:20] <davidsong> Datz: you can "killall gnome-session"
[15:20] <davidsong> or what eeee saif
[15:21] <davidsong> said*
[15:21] <Datz> humm, thanks!
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> perlmonkey  use this command to see which are the biggest files    find / -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[15:21] <ikonia> that won't show the biggest
[15:21] <ikonia> which there may well be none
[15:21] <ikonia> that will show files over 500M
[15:21] <perlmonkey> oh another Monkey! thank you MonkeyDust bro, all these suggestions are welcome, I'm getting desparate deleting files by the hour :-|
[15:21] <ikonia> and if they are over 500mb you may need them
[15:22] <davidsong> best to just use baobab, it's much nicer
[15:22] <DDAZZA> I've just installed 14.04.  How can I set the correct monitor resolution?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> perlmonkey  what ikonia says is right, change 500M to whatever size
[15:22] <perlmonkey> ok
[15:22] <perlmonkey> thanks ikonia
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Sere: sure its not an ip5300 ?
[15:23] <davidsong> has anyone else's program searching lens broken in the latest update?
[15:23] <Datz> eeee: thanks, worked like a charm, is that only for the Gnome Session Fallback?
[15:23] <davidsong> I type "<super>bit" and don't see Transmission or Bitcoin in the list, I delete the text and type it again and they both show up
[15:25] <amr> TJ-: which but are you showing us?
[15:25] <yofun> So earlier I was told to install "lm-sensors" but it doesn't have a installation candidate
[15:25] <ikonia> yofun: what version of ubuntu
[15:26] <ikonia> that's surprising if it's not in a current version
[15:26] <ikonia> !info lm-sensors
[15:26] <yofun> ikonia: 14.04
[15:26] <ikonia> yofun: it's therein 14.04
[15:26] <ikonia> yofun: version 1.3.3.4
[15:26] <perlmonkey> ks
[15:26] <perlmonkey> ks
[15:26] <perlmonkey> os
[15:26] <perlmonkey> iks
[15:26] <perlmonkey> s
[15:26] <DJones> perlmonkey: Please don't do that
[15:26] <ikonia> lazukars: s
[15:26] <ikonia> perlmonkey: please stop
[15:26] <yofun> It says no installation candidates
[15:26] <perlmonkey> is /proc/kcore not to be messed with?
[15:26] <ikonia> yofun: then it's your machine
[15:26] <davidsong> perlmonkey: that's not a real file
[15:26] <ikonia> perlmonkey: /proc is not real
[15:26] <perlmonkey> sorry
[15:26] <ikonia> perlmonkey: ignore /proc
[15:26] <bluenemo> how hard is it to get rid of nouveau to be able to install the nvidia driver???? argh
[15:27] <eeee> Datz: it's for the lightdm desktop manager
[15:27] <yofun> ikonia: if it helps I'm on a live CD
[15:27] <ikonia> yofun: not really
[15:27] <ikonia> yofun: it's in the repos as you've just seen
[15:27] <davidsong> perlmonkey: did baobab not work? it'll show you graphically exactly where all your space is being eaten
[15:27] <yofun> ikonia: yeah, I know it's in the repos other wise it would of said no package found
[15:27] <TJ-> amr: That quote was from a paragrpah about 1/2 way down the page, but there's a lot of interesting info there. It looks as if "Microsoft UEFI will assume the role of platform firmware" implies Windows will also need to ensure it is the primary boot manager
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> perlmonkey  FYI: "/proc/kcore is a virtual file and contains the RAM the kernel can allocate"
[15:28] <eeee> Datz: ( not only the gnome session fallback)
[15:28] <amr> interesting, TJ-
[15:28] <Datz> eeee: great. Thanks for your help.
[15:28] <eeee> np
[15:28] <perlmonkey> davidsong trying it now
[15:29] <DDAZZA> I'm getting this error 'xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default' Any ideas how to resolve?
[15:29] <amr> i wonder why it works for you, eeee
[15:30] <eeee> amr: maybe cuz i have win8 not win8.1, maybe cuz my efi partition isn't the original one, dunno
[15:30] <amr> looks like i can add a startup script entry to reset to the UUID i want to boot
[15:31] <perlmonkey> davidsong baobab is not available, I guess my distro is EOL/obselete :-S
[15:31] <perlmonkey> no installation candidate
[15:31] <davidsong> perlmonkey: ah that sucks
[15:31] <ikonia> perlmonkey: what distro are you actually running ?
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> perlmonkey  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[15:32] <perlmonkey> Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[15:32] <eeee> O.o
[15:32] <compdoc> wow
[15:32] <davidsong> woa
[15:32] <perlmonkey> heh
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> was that before or after ENIAC?
[15:33] <eeee> i hope you're from the future and that's 18.04.4
[15:33]  * perlmonkey is going to retire this system on Monday
[15:33] <davidsong> so your logs have been growing for 6 years?
[15:33] <perlmonkey> its EOL in hardware as well as software lol
[15:33] <perlmonkey> yeah!
[15:33] <davidsong> cd /var/log && du -h
[15:34] <ikonia> du -hs
[15:34] <perlmonkey> its a 1U with 250GB limit on SATA, noisy as hell.. dual core, magnetic discs
[15:34] <amr> 8.04, nice
[15:34] <perlmonkey> i want to move to SSD
[15:34] <perlmonkey> and smaller systems
[15:35] <yofun> So is this okay? http://pastebin.com/HuRwJgdT
[15:35] <davidsong> replace with a raspberry_pi running raspbian, probably just as fast and just as likely to have a hardware fault
[15:35] <davidsong> haha
[15:35] <TJ-> perlmonkey: "sudo du -b -d 3 / | sort -n" will list the directories in order with the largest in size, last
[15:36] <perlmonkey> davidsong thanks, i identified more logs I can delete, I already got the big ones syslog and mail etc, but mysql is eating 186MB
[15:36] <perlmonkey> thanks TJ-
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> yofun  what you can try, open a youtube video and then use    watch -n 1- d sensors
[15:36]  * perlmonkey did an apt-get update clean to remove packages downloaded too
[15:36] <davidsong> that's good stuff TJ-, I'm remembering that
[15:37] <perlmonkey> that saved some space
[15:37] <amr> hm, update-grub didnt find windows
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> yofun  what you can try, open a youtube video and then use    watch -n 1 -d sensors  <-- changed typo
[15:37] <yofun> MonkeyDust: so it's not overheating or anything?
[15:37] <loa> i can use pc beep in bash?
[15:37] <TJ-> amr: It won't... I told eeee earlier, for that you need to edit the os-prober script that detects Windows EFI, because it looks for bootmgfw.efi
[15:37] <amr> oh yes
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> yofun  no, at 107 your system would shut down
[15:38] <amr> i thought i edited that
[15:38] <k1l_> perlmonkey: removed ole kernels and old kernel headers already?
[15:38] <perlmonkey> not yet
[15:38] <yofun> MonkeyDust: I was checking the temperatures because the fan seems to be non stop running
[15:38] <amr> oh and its been renamed back to the old one
[15:38] <amr> bloody hell
[15:38] <k1l_> headers and kernels make a huge amount of free space
[15:38] <perlmonkey> ok lets get rid of those old ones
[15:38] <NixiePixel> is there another ad on besides html 5 to replace flash, because html 5 add on does not work on my favourite news site?
[15:39] <TJ-> amr: renamed, or a new file put in there to fill the gap?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> yofun  yes, i used it because a fan *didnt* run
[15:39] <amr> renamed
[15:39] <amr> the bootmgfw.efi
[15:39]  * perlmonkey goes into /boot and sees GB's of space wasted
[15:39] <TJ-> amr: possibly deleted any "unauthorised" files in there, and rewrites the directory from "C:\boot\efi\"
[15:39] <amr> but i updated the 20_microsoft script to look at .backup
[15:39] <k1l_> perlmonkey: dont fiddle there by hand, remove the pakcages
[15:39] <perlmonkey> ok
[15:40] <BammBamm> perlmonkey:  do you know lots about data recovery?
[15:40] <amr> which i guess won't be there now
[15:40] <k1l_> perlmonkey: linux-image-.... and linux-header...
[15:40] <amr> true TJ-
[15:40] <perlmonkey> not much
[15:40] <amr> should i just remove it then?
[15:40] <BammBamm> perlmonkey: any channels?
[15:40] <TJ-> amr: You risk messing up Windows I think; I'd hate that to happen. Those HPs obviously do not want to run anything but MS
[15:40] <amr> yeah tell me about it
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !erecovery |BammBamm,
[15:41] <BammBamm> ??
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !recovery |BammBamm`,
[15:42] <eeee> BammBamm: are you recovering a windows partition or ext4 ?
[15:42] <BammBamm> these are not ubuntu partitions
[15:42] <BammBamm> win
[15:42] <eeee> BammBamm: yeah, so ?
[15:42] <eeee> testdisk should work wonders
[15:42] <eeee> did you select Intel as the disk when it loaded?
[15:42] <BammBamm> i tried that, but it still won't boot
[15:42] <BammBamm> eeee: yes
[15:42] <eeee> what do you mean won't boot
[15:43] <BammBamm> eeee: i mean, i get this " : bootmgr missing press ctrl alt del " message when I set the Win7 partition as bootable
[15:43] <amr> so i think i might just give up and boot with the boot menu in the bios then
[15:43] <amr> :/
[15:43] <amr> at least it works!
[15:44] <BammBamm> eeee:  and i get this "|             " message when I set the Vistt partition as bootable
[15:44] <eeee> BammBamm: ok, do you have a recovery usb?
[15:44] <eeee> BammBamm: you need to bcdboot /fixmbr
[15:44] <BammBamm> yes
[15:45] <BammBamm> after I've booted with the LiveCD?
[15:45] <eeee> you need a windows recovery
[15:45] <TJ-> amr:  :)
[15:46] <BammBamm> i got 2, both aren't working, eeee
[15:46] <eeee> BammBamm: did you run bcdboot /fixmbr ?
[15:46] <BammBamm> eeee: no, it's not clear to me when or how i sould do that
[15:46] <BammBamm> should
[15:47] <eeee> you need to select command prompt, and then run "bcdboot /fixmbr"
[15:47] <eeee> sorry, it is bootrec /fixmbr
[15:47] <BammBamm> after I booted with the rescue cd?
[15:48] <eeee> yeah, select the advanced troubleshooting
[15:48] <BammBamm> eeee: oh wait, do you mean the  recovery usb issued by microsoft?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: what is the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: we can clear up old unused kernels
[15:49] <perlmonkey> http://pastebin.com/geCjwUD8
[15:49] <perlmonkey> thanks ActionParsnip
[15:49] <eeee> BammBamm: yeah, it doesn't need to be the full one that has the image of the preinstalled os
[15:51] <BammBamm> eeee:  u happen to know a download spot?
[15:52] <amr> thanks for the help eeee & TJ- :)
[15:52] <TJ-> amr: I'm tempted to buy one of those HPs, just to hack it :)
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:53] <perlmonkey> Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: hardy is not supported in any way
[15:54] <perlmonkey> my server is EOL :-/
[15:54] <Engen> Hi, just wondering if it's possible to install similar packages with the same name (sort of) through apt-get? I have gdb already installed on my machine and I'd like to install another version of gdb however I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8063815/
[15:54] <sec2aux> im having trouble installing nvidia drivers on 14.04. The laptop stops at the boot screen on reboot. Im using an acer v7 582 pg with a GT750M nvidia card
[15:55] <Engen> line 14 is where the error seems to occur
[15:55] <perlmonkey> sec2aux i had same prob on my Desktop board with nividia, i ended up rolling back to 12
[15:55] <InsaneReality> Hi, I have upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 and in Gnome (3.10), the Network Manager Indicator is absent. Can anyone tell me how to get it back?
[15:55] <daftykins> sec2aux: that's an nvidia optimus setup, you can't just install nvidia drivers - you need either nvidia-prime or bumblebee
[15:55]  * yofun sighs
[15:55] <perlmonkey> there's a lot of bugs re nvidia and 14 I think
[15:56] <yofun> Why do I have a feeling I messed up the bootloader
[15:56] <sec2aux> perlmonkey...oh bugger me. That was the only thing i couldnt test with a live cd
[15:57] <sec2aux> daftykins i think ubuntu install the dkms switch when I install the nvidia drivers
[15:57] <perlmonkey> daftykinks suggestion might work, i did install all the driver options tho for nvidia on 14 and none worked stable, it would run then just random lock up, lines over screen etc
[15:57] <daftykins> perlmonkey: right, but you're one user... so your experience doesn't overlap every nvidia user out there else we'd hear it regularly
[15:58] <perlmonkey> true
[15:58] <daftykins> sec2aux: i don't see the relevance of dkms to your scenario
[15:58] <BammBamm> eeee: thanks, but i will rebooot now
[15:58] <perlmonkey> but like i said, a lot of bugs filed on this issue, it could be fixed now tho
[15:58] <perlmonkey> that was last month
[15:58] <sec2aux> sorry i meant bbsswtich
[15:58] <sec2aux> are there any logs i could see?
[15:59] <sec2aux> boot.log seems normal
[15:59] <daftykins> sec2aux: if all you tried to do was install an nvidia driver, from package or from download, it's not gonna work
[15:59]  * perlmonkey suspects this disk is broken and not reporting correcting partition size
[15:59] <daftykins> sec2aux: unless your BIOS/EFI offers a GPU choice option
[15:59] <perlmonkey> rebooting often shows more space
[16:00] <perlmonkey> it can radically alter, from 99% to 86%
[16:00] <perlmonkey> and it refuses to boot unless I do CTRL+D
[16:01] <sec2aux> I used the addition drivers tab in software sources
[16:01] <perlmonkey> magnetic discs are rubbish, i got a pile of dead discs now, even a 1TB one :-(
[16:01] <perlmonkey> im done with magnetic stuff
[16:01] <TJ-> perlmonkey: Sounds like it drops into the initial RAM-disk, so seeing 99% disk usage would be expected
[16:01] <perlmonkey> oh that would explain it, of course
[16:01] <TJ-> perlmonkey: And when you do Ctrl+D that likely continues the boot, which mounts the real root file-system, which has 86% free
[16:01] <perlmonkey> yes
[16:01] <TJ-> s/free/used/
[16:02] <perlmonkey> my office building is jinxed, its built ontop of the Royal Enfield factory site and they did radioactive stuff
[16:02] <perlmonkey> below ground
[16:03] <perlmonkey> i cant even a mobile signal
[16:03] <perlmonkey> with the strongest network in UK, I move 1 meter away from building, im fine
[16:03] <linux_> hi who can fix this (cheese:3130): cheese-WARNING **: Device '/dev/video0' is busy: gstv4l2object.c(2524): gst_v4l2_object_set_format (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstWrapperCameraBinSrc:camera_source/GstBin:bin17/GstV4l2Src:video_source:
[16:03] <linux_> Call to S_FMT failed for YU12 @ 1280x720: Device or resource busy
[16:04]  * perlmonkey attempts to regain control of his CCTV sys via port mapping
[16:05] <funkymonkey> if i did run "apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop" and its not working properly will "apt-get remove ..... solve the problem?
[16:05] <_2_Lily97> Hey
[16:07] <funkymonkey> will it revert back to unity by default
[16:08] <linux_> no
[16:09] <funkymonkey> wow than how can i fix that?
[16:10] <linux_> i think when you logout
[16:10] <linux_> and just on the start where you type passs you can
[16:10] <linux_> choese do you want to use gnome or unity
[16:10] <linux_> or defoult ubuntu
[16:11] <funkymonkey> linux_: ok as simple as that, tnx
[16:16] <kaan> I have a simple script for livestreamer http://pastie.org/9478561, I want to, for example, say ./twitch nochat and it wouldn't execute the second line. How can I accomplish that? I don't know bash at all and no idea what to look for. I tried $3 but it requires all the previoes ones to be entererd.
[16:16] <InsaneReality> Hi, I have upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 and in Gnome (3.10), the Network Manager Indicator is absent. Can anyone tell me how to get it back?
[16:16] <_Q> are there any known issues with installing Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS on VMware Server 2.0?
[16:17] <_Q> I can choose the language, but once I select "Install Ubuntu Server", it hangs completely
[16:17] <davidsong> kaan: I think $1 is the first argument passed to your script, then look at the bash "if" statement to run a command if that variable is equal to something
[16:17] <_Q> by comparison, 10.04 works just fine (but is also very old)
[16:17] <natsu_san> afternoon
[16:18] <_Q> (I tried upgrading 10.04 to 12.04, but it ran out of disk space despite telling me that I had enough beforehand)
[16:18] <kaan> davidsong: I see, thanks. I'll experiment
[16:19] <davidsong> kaan: you'll probably be better learning a real programming language, bash is one ugly and old language. Python is intuative and readable by humans.
[16:19] <natsu_san> I found raspbery pi to be good for learning python
[16:19] <kaan> davidsong: it is very hard to read indeed
[16:21] <bhavesh> I have black font color on grey background for menu's : http://i.imgur.com/dEd3vP6.jpg Which css file should I edit to get everything right?
[16:21] <bhavesh> I have Ambience enabled, the colors got wrong because I had installed kubuntu-desktop earlier.
[16:21] <bhavesh> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04
[16:22] <bhavesh> Also, the right click menu's background color is still from kubuntu-desktop's.
[16:22] <davidsong> kaan: I was giving you crappy advice earlier because I didn't read your command line properly, sorry
[16:23] <davidsong> and I'm too lazy to figure it out so I still recommend using Python instead
[16:23] <kaan> davidsong: ok. I'll see what I can do.
[16:24] <davidsong> kaan: look how cool this is: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2009/09/python-optparse-example/
[16:24] <natsu_san> I have to use black and green for most stuff
[16:24] <davidsong> you can have ./yourscript --help
[16:26] <natsu_san> how do you find what version your running? i just installed xubuntu but have never checked my version
[16:27] <impr> Hi all. I'm trying to install 14.04 on my HP pavilion p7z desktop and keep having issues. The first attempt at install seemed to go great until I tried to boot it up afterwards and all I got was a black screen (didn't even make it to the BIOS splash) and it's been going downhill from there. It currently boots up about 75% of the time so long as the liveUSB is plugged in (even though it's booting to the harddrive, not the USB) but won't boot
[16:27] <impr>  up at all without the USB. It also freezes mid shutdown and has to be manually turned off from there... I'm afraid I'm not very knowledgeable about computers and while I can follow instructions in terminal, I don't really know where to start in diagnosing and fixing this issue myself. Can anyone help me? Thanks!
[16:28] <AmateurEleUser> i have joined elementary
[16:28] <natsu_san> how are you installing it? you booting from a usb installer?
[16:29] <AmateurEleUser> Na. Am actually running it on a Virtual Machine
[16:30] <AmateurEleUser> Does anybody get the same problem as me ? Of CPU overheating ?
[16:31] <impr> originally booted from a usb installer which worked perfectly. Then installed from that boot which is when the problems started. Am now booting to the install (it has me log in and saves changes between boots so I'm 99% certain I'm booting to the install) but that only works if the USB is plugged in... Can unplug the USB once booted up and it runs fine, it seems to just be the boot-up that requires the USB.
[16:31] <AmateurEleUser> Booting through a usb is fine. But it never saves our changes made to the OS
[16:32] <natsu_san> hmmm i had troubles booting ubuntu with the usb eventually i burned the whole thing started again from scratch by booting from CD and it installed fine first time
[16:33] <AmateurEleUser> I feel that the software center must be updated too. It shows a lot of bugs
[16:33] <natsu_san> sounds almost like it left all the boot stuff on the usb
[16:33] <impr> I have blank CDs I could try it with, but my understanding is 14.04 only fits on a DVD (which I don't have) so I imagine I'd need to install an earlier version and then have it upgrade once booted to the earlier version. Is this correct?
[16:34] <impr> natsu-san: yeah, that was my thought, but I have no idea how to fix it
[16:34] <impr> plus, even with the USB plugged in, it doesn't shutdown correctly (freezes mid way)
[16:39] <natsu_san> maybe the boot priority in the bios is still set to boot from usb not hard drive maybe u need to highten the priority of the hard drive?
[16:39] <natsu_san> im not sure about the freezing on shutdown tho :S
[16:40] <impr> natsu: I considered that, but if I'm booting from the USB, how come I can unmount and unplug the USB once booted and it continues to run just fine...? *so confused*
[16:41] <mikemike123> How can I update my nVidia drivers to the latest via the Software & Updates screen? I see there's v340.32 online, but Ubuntu is only giving me the option to use v331.38.
[16:41] <sere> Question : I installed printer drivers for a canon mg5300  and thats works fine but no joy for the scanner do i need to install something else?
[16:42] <xangua> mikemike123: what ubuntu release are you using¿ also see !latest
[16:42] <mikemike123> I'm on 14.04
[16:42] <mikemike123> !latest
[16:45] <mikemike123> xangua, good point. Thank you.
[16:48] <patates> Kleopatra or kgpg? what's your opinion?
[16:49] <patates> I can't make gpa work..
[16:51] <samthewildone> Can I use a fglrx driver instead of the open source ?
[16:51] <samthewildone> I noticed some applications don't work to their full potential. Like Qt Quick
[16:52] <daftykins> samthewildone: sure, check the age of your card and try if you like.
[16:53] <impr> So while I've been talking with you I've also been trying the install again from scratch (with a liveUSB). It seems to have partially worked. I can now boot up without the liveUSB plugged in. Unfortunately, it still consistently freezes every time I shut down... Any ideas?
[16:53] <samthewildone> daftykins, HD7700
[16:53] <CodeGosu> 'sudo apt-get update' can take like 20 seconds on my pc is there any faser, asynchronous version that request everything in paralell?
[16:54] <samthewildone> CodeGosu, how many repos you have ?
[16:54] <daftykins> CodeGosu: just be sure you're on a decent mirror and it's not your network/wireless that's responsible
[16:54] <samthewildone> CodeGosu, mine use  to take up to 4 minutes at one time. Disable a bunch of source repos
[16:54] <daftykins> samthewildone: yeah, follow the advice from !ati then
[16:54] <samthewildone> !ati
[16:59] <zainul> hi
[17:00] <samthewildone> hi
[17:00] <Zhuko> Hi
[17:06] <boochi> hey zainul
[17:07] <zainul> hii...what's up
[17:07] <zainul> boochi...
[17:07] <boochi> chillin
[17:07] <zainul> which country??
[17:08] <boochi> german
[17:09] <zainul> gender...??
[17:09] <DJones> zainul: Is that relevant to an operating system supprt channel?
[17:10] <zainul> Nope..
[17:10] <zainul> First time in IRC...i dont know rules..
[17:11] <DJones> !guidelines | zainul The Ubuntu channels use thse as guidelines,
[17:16] <jhattara> sed is a good utility for search&replace, but what can i use to just find a certain pattern from a string without printing the entire line as grep does ?
[17:17] <Fevix> Hello all. I managed, yesterday, to dd a 14.04.1 LTS ISO onto a USB drive, and today attempted to boot from it. It failed, telling me isolinux.bin was missing or corrupt. Is there anything I can do to fix this? I've tried to fsck the frive, but got an error saying "fsck: fsck.iso9660: not found".
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> jhattara: have you tried grep -o ?
[17:18] <Guest75895> Good evening everyone, I'm wondering how photoshop cs6 installed on xubuntu 14.04 LTS ? I need it for creating web design
[17:18] <Fevix> The drive is currentmy mounted, and Ubuntu recognizes it as a data drive which I can access.
[17:18] <jhattara> SchrodingersScat: thanks, i think that's it
[17:18] <Guest75895> thanks you in advance
[17:19] <bicky> hiii guys...i am new to ubuntu,,,i have installed mplayer-gui and skins from synaptic...every time a try to open i get error message-error skin config..PNG error..please help me
[17:19] <k1l_> !wine | Guest75895
[17:19] <bekks> Guest75895: You need to install it through wine: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25607
[17:20] <andi_> hello. i have 2 os mythbuntu and windows 7. since i install the windows wlan-driver my wlan in windows and linux doesn't work so good anymore. so i think i should reinstall the linux firmware for wlan. how can i do that?
[17:21] <bicky> bekks...can u see my message plzz...
[17:22] <bicky> hiii guys...i am new to ubuntu,,,i have installed mplayer-gui and skins from synaptic...every time a try to open i get error message-error skin config..PNG error..please help me
[17:22] <Guest75895> I just saw that photoshop does not exist in GNU/Linux, is a privateur server (not free) and that is not developed for the GNU/Linux platform
[17:22] <k1l_> bicky: hard to say without the exact error
[17:22] <Guest75895> thank you anyway ;)
[17:22] <srp> Hi guys, using DreamStudio 12.04 which is based on Ubuntu. Kernel 3.2.0-39 is the last version that boots in my laptop. I was unable to find out where in the boot process it locks up, but no subsequent kernel works. Can anyone help me out please?
[17:22] <Fevix> Hello all. I managed, yesterday, to dd a 14.04.1 LTS ISO onto a USB drive, and today attempted to boot from it. It failed, telling me isolinux.bin was missing or corrupt. Is there anything I can do to fix this? I've tried to fsck the frive, but got an error saying "fsck: fsck.iso9660: not found".
[17:23] <samthewildone> yeshuah, I can say that the ATI Proprietary drivers work better than the open source.
[17:23] <samthewildone> ,,,
[17:23] <bicky> okay...k1l_...i will show u now the exact error message
[17:23] <samthewildone> ... i mean to say yes
[17:23] <SchrodingersScat> !info gimp | Guest75895
[17:23] <mrvadon> Hi all, I have a question: why I posed the picture on the desktop does not appear on the logon screen
[17:23] <andi_> how can i reinstall the wifi-firmware in ubuntu?
[17:23] <Guest75895> thanks ubottu
[17:24] <k1l_> mrvadon: it should when you select the user to login. on a ubuntu 14.04 with unity
[17:24] <mrvadon> yes
[17:25] <mrvadon> but it does not appear
[17:25] <InsaneReality> Hi, I have upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 and in Gnome (3.10), the Network Manager Indicator is absent. Can anyone tell me how to get it back?
[17:27] <bicky> k1l_ ,,,,the error message is like this....error in skin config file on line 6:PNG read error in user/share/mplayer/skins/default/main
[17:28] <k1l_> bicky: put the exact error into a pastebin
[17:28] <k1l_> you can start the program in the terminal to see more errors in the terminal then
[17:29] <bicky> k1l_...i dont understand what pastebin is ??
[17:29] <k1l_> !paste | bicky
[17:29] <hotsatellite> InsaneReality, try to run 'NetworkManager' in terminal
[17:32] <InsaneReality> hotsatellite: It says"NetworkManager is already running (pid 1643)" but I still don't see the indicator
[17:33] <k1l_> is it blacklisted in the gnome desktop?
[17:33] <Nox_404> hi, I'm trying to make a usb key with multiple installer ( OS X 10.9, Ubuntu 14.04, windows 8.1 ), but i can't find a tutorial to do this. I wan't to have a usb key with the 3 OS installers. I also need ubuntu to be a live version so i can boot it without installing. How can i do that
[17:35] <hotsatellite> InsaneReality, try to run 'nm-applet' in terminal
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Nox_404  muiltisystem lets you do that (not sure about osx)
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Nox_404  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[17:37] <Slart> bicky: it's a website where you paste text and then you give the url to your page to other people.. it's just a way of sending lots of text to those who try to help you
[17:37] <InsaneReality> hotsatellite: ok cool, that brings it up, thanks. but is it possible to always show it when the machine boots? do I need to add it to startup apps?
[17:38] <hotsatellite> InsaneReality, do test
[17:38] <InsaneReality> hotsatellite: alright thanks for helping out
[17:39] <hotsatellite> InsaneReality, you are welcome
[17:40] <Nox_404> MonkeyDust: Thanks, i'll try that
[17:41] <bicky> slart ... the message is in a box and i am unable to select the text..when i drag the cursor while clicking it it does not select any texts
[17:41] <k1l_> bicky: start it from terminal, like i said
[17:42] <MagicSpud> hello trying to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 14.04 with automatic updates I get this: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=75514
[17:42] <k1l_> MagicSpud: what was the exact command you gave? do you have PPAs enabled?
[17:45] <Slart> bicky: can you take a screenshot? take a picture with your phone? write down the text?
[17:45] <Slart> bicky: there are sites like pastebin but for images as well
[17:45] <MagicSpud> k1l_ a lot of ppa's mainly from launchpad...manually added yes...and for the command... I just run the system tools/administration/update manager....and then saw: "there is a new lts ubuntu version" and clicked the upgrade button
[17:45] <Enissay> I'm tryingto understand some shell script... I was wondering what does >FILE<  means ?
[17:46] <Fevix> Hello all. I managed, yesterday, to dd a 14.04.1 LTS ISO onto a USB drive, and today attempted to boot from it. It failed, telling me isolinux.bin was missing or corrupt. Is there anything I can do to fix this? I've tried to fsck the frive, but got an error saying "fsck: fsck.iso9660: not found".
[17:46] <reisio> Enissay: can you give more context?
[17:46] <Slart> Enissay: man bash    will give you lots of help.. can you paste the whole line for us to see?
[17:46] <andi_> hello. i have win7 and ubuntu. at first i installed ubuntu. the wifi worked fine. then i installed win7 and the windows wifi driver. then the wifi didn't work well anymore. is it possible that the firmware from windows is shitty? how can i reinstall the firmware in ubuntu. i tried #aptitude reinstall linux-firmware linux-firmware-nonfree and linux-image-generic but without success.
[17:46] <raymestalez> Hey, guys!! Can you please give me advice - what service should I use to backup my files(in the cloud)?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Enissay  there's also the channel #bash
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> Enissay: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[17:47] <k1l_> MagicSpud: try a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you are on the latest updates. then run "sudo do-release-upgrade" and see if that runs to upgrade
[17:47] <reisio> raymestalez: don't focus on the cloud
[17:47] <reisio> raymestalez: google drive starts at 15 gb I think, there are many competitors
[17:47] <Slart> raymestalez: that's like asking what car you should buy.. different services for different needs
[17:47] <MagicSpud> k1l_ okay
[17:47] <Fevix> Mega.co starts at 50GB
[17:47] <Fevix> But Google Drive has web editing possibilities
[17:48] <reisio> mega.co.nz?
[17:48] <chan_> can anyone tell me what is *.py~ file
[17:48] <Fevix> and if you have a shared folder, two or more people can work on one project at the same time
[17:48] <Slart> chan_: python script
[17:48] <reisio> chan_: it's a text editor backup of a python file
[17:48] <Slart> chan_: (probably)
[17:48] <raymestalez> Awesome, thanks!!
[17:48] <Fevix> reisio: I think that's the one
[17:48] <reisio> Fevix: that's the 2nd incarnation of a site that was shutdown for piracy
[17:48] <reisio> I wouldn't put backups there
[17:48] <Slart> chan_: oh.. sorry.. didn't see the ~ at the end.. that's usually a backup file like reisio said
[17:48] <MagicSpud> k1l_ a lot of packages updating gradin
[17:48] <Fevix> I know, I was just tossing that out there cause of the 50GB starting thing
[17:49] <reisio> yeah, but you could upload 50GB (how long would that take?) and the next day it could be gone forever
[17:49] <MagicSpud> k1l_ you might nailed it
[17:49] <reisio> not worth it
[17:49] <Fevix> I'd probably only trust it as short-term storage, say if you were moving computers and for whatever reason couldn't transfer any other way
[17:49] <reisio> not to mention it might be analyzed for potential illegality :p
[17:49] <Enissay> it's a code I wrote months ago, and forgot what that var means xD    =>    cloc --extract-with='unp >FILE<' $fileDIR
[17:49] <reisio> yeah, just a waste of time :p
[17:49] <Enissay> reisio, Slart ^
[17:49] <chan_> reisio: thanks
[17:50] <Fevix> Hello all. I managed, yesterday, to dd a 14.04.1 LTS ISO onto a USB drive, and today attempted to boot from it. It failed, telling me isolinux.bin was missing or corrupt. Is there anything I can do to fix this? I've tried to fsck the frive, but got an error saying "fsck: fsck.iso9660: not found".
[17:50] <reisio> Enissay: is that the whole line?
[17:50] <Enissay> yup
[17:50] <reisio> Fevix: what command did you dd with?
[17:50] <reisio> Enissay: just looks like a cheap placeholder to me
[17:50] <Fevix> one i got from this chat
[17:50] <Slart> Enissay: looks like file redicrection   unp > FILE < bla   so output from the command is sent to FILE and input is read from bla
[17:50] <reisio> Enissay: like something you wanted yourself to replace
[17:51] <Fevix> I think TJ- gave it to me
[17:51] <reisio> Fevix: and you checked the sum and all that?
[17:51] <Fevix> yes
[17:52] <Fevix> The iso is at home, I'm at a friend's place
[17:52] <Fevix> Currently on a live boot disk with no persistence
[17:52] <reisio> just the answer to the question is enough :p
[17:52] <reisio> Fevix: what's wrong with this disc you're already using?
[17:52] <Fevix> The hard disk is busted to hell. Any OS we've put on it has gone bad within days
[17:53] <reisio> yes I know that
[17:53] <reisio> I mean the live disc you're already using
[17:53] <Fevix> No persistenvce
[17:53] <reisio> and is all this time spent on this worth less than the cost of a new hard disk
[17:53] <bicky>  k1l_:plz tell me the exact procedure to start from terminal...what command to give in terminal ?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> bicky  what are you trying to do?
[17:54] <Fevix> reisio: When that laptop hard disk will be used for at most a month before I get money saved for a desktop?
[17:54] <k1l_> bicky: open a terminal and then type the name of the program you want to start, then enter.
[17:55] <reisio> Fevix: why not just spend credit and pay it off in a month then
[17:55] <Fevix> dont have credit
[17:55] <reisio> ah
[17:55] <reisio> Fevix: and you can't spend $5 on a second usb stick?
[17:55] <Fevix> I have 3 sticks
[17:56] <reisio> okay
[17:56] <reisio> then you can boot from one and install to a second
[17:56] <Fevix> No I cant
[17:56] <reisio> why not?
[17:56] <Fevix> I tried that several times yesterday
[17:56] <reisio> and?
[17:56] <Fevix> The installer, 100% of the time, refused to notice the USB disks
[17:56] <vianna> Alguém poderia me ajudar?.. canais de programação.
[17:56] <reisio> you tried putting them in different ports?
[17:56] <Fevix> Instead trying to install to that computer's hard drive
[17:56] <Fevix> Yes
[17:57] <k1l_> !br | vianna
[17:57] <vianna> valeu..obrigado..
[17:57] <Fevix> I could use the partitioner to resize partitions on the USB drive I wanted to install to, but not install to that drive
[17:57] <reisio> Fevix: that's hard to believe... hrmmm
[17:57] <InsaneReality> Question: When you install something and it has a bunch of dependencies, is there a log file where you can see what was installed?
[17:57] <Fevix> It's what happened
[17:57] <bicky> i did it...and pasted it..the url is..http://paste.ubuntu.com/8064618/
[17:58] <reisio> Fevix: it showed you partition space, and then didn't allow you to install to it?
[17:58] <Fevix> Didn't give me any option to install to it
[17:58] <reisio> Fevix: you might try the minimalcd image
[17:58] <Fevix> ?
[17:59] <Azendale> I'm trying to get Ubuntu desktop to boot from a luks encrypted / partiton, with a separate (unencrypted) /boot partition. I'm not using LVM. I set up /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab, and chrooted it from a livecd to run update-grub
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> bicky  what was your initial question? what brings you here?
[18:00] <Azendale> I'm getting a busybox prompt
[18:00] <k1l_> InsaneReality: see /var/log/apt/
[18:00] <Fevix> I can run a new installer right now, this live boot disk is running the desired version
[18:00] <InsaneReality> k1l_: Thanks
[18:00] <Fevix> Is there a way I can share screen with you?
[18:00] <reisio> Fevix: there's another image other than the ordinary one, it's called the 'minimalcd' image
[18:00] <reisio> Fevix: it has a different installer
[18:01] <reisio> Fevix: yeah... with teamviewer, I s'pose
[18:01] <Fevix> sec
[18:02] <Fevix> May I open a private chat with you, reisio?
[18:02] <reisio> sure
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> bicky  please do keep it in the channel
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> bicky  so mplayer won't start... what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[18:03] <guest683> mplayer? tried smplayer or gnome mplayer?
[18:04] <generalu> I have a problem with apt
[18:04] <bicky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8064618/
[18:04] <generalu> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> bicky  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:04] <guest683> vlc?
[18:05] <bicky> where to find cat /etc/issue
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> bicky  type it in a terminal window
[18:06] <guest683> bicky mplayer [file]
[18:07] <quintux_maximux_> heya
[18:07] <bicky> bicky@bicky-Satellite-Pro-C650:~$ cat /etc/issue
[18:07] <bicky> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[18:07] <reisio> \n \l?!
[18:07] <reisio> mondieu!
[18:07] <bicky> mplayer-gui from synaptic
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> bicky  ok, what happens if you launch mplayer from the menu?
[18:08] <scientaster> I installed a network driver wrong - network settings doesn't load , lshw doesn't work - how do I uninstall it?
[18:08] <reisio> generalu: sources.list is a text file, you can manually remove duplicate lines if you like
[18:08] <Sarah33> hello everyone, I have a problem with rhythmbox, I have installed visualizer plugin but in the interface when I'm going to Visual effects, all the possible effects are in grey (not clickable)
[18:08] <reisio> scientaster: how'd you install it?
[18:09] <scientaster> reisio it came with an install.sh file, do you want to look at it?
[18:09] <reisio> no
[18:09] <reisio> that could be a PITA to fully remove
[18:09] <reisio> or it could be simple
[18:10] <reisio> see if you can read the install.sh file and see what it put and where, etc.
[18:10] <reisio> then undo it
[18:10] <bicky> if i open from its shows a box...heading-fatal error then the message...error in skin config file on line 6:PNG read error in user/share/mplayer/skins/defaul/main...if i press ok..it shows another box with message,,,config file processing error skin 'default'
[18:11] <Azendale> I want to save a luks key file in /boot, and have it automatically used to unlock /. I know this sounds like a weird idea, but the reasoning is that when I'm done with the machine and want to give it to someone else, I just have to zero out /boot instead of the whole drive. What do I need to do to set up luks encryption for / with a key from /boot?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> bicky  any reason why you wnat to use mplayer? there are plenty other players
[18:13] <k1l_> bicky: so did you start mplayer or mplayer-gui ?
[18:13] <mrvadon> QUIT
[18:14] <bicky> no specific reason..i installed ubuntu 3 days ago...and i just googled it for best vedio player for ubuntu..it shows mplayer
[18:14] <scientaster> reisio it runs a giant ass makefile for it. Is there a way to reset everything network related? or if neccessary the os..
[18:14] <MagicSpud> k1l_ okay dist-upgrade done...but now I have a doubt...I think the sudo do release-upgrade you pointed me out wont upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 directly am I wrong?
[18:14] <bicky> any  other best vedio player ?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> bicky  totem, vlc
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> bicky  especially vlx is a devil-do-all
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> vlc*
[18:15] <reisio> scientaster: not a simple way, no
[18:15] <reisio> scientaster: this is why it's best to use the package manager
[18:15] <bicky> okay,,,thanksi have a default vedio player..i will install vlc
[18:16] <reisio> mplayer is the best
[18:16] <bicky> k1l_ and MonkeyDust...thank u for help
[18:17] <k1l_> MagicSpud: sure it does go to 14.04
[18:18] <k1l_> MagicSpud: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:18] <scientaster> reisio thanks for your help man, I'll start from scratch I suppose
[18:18] <reisio> that's one option
[18:28] <Dasm> Hey- how do I install JRE?
[18:28] <MagicSpud> k1l_ from lts to lts???
[18:29] <amr> eeee: does your laptop run hot in ubuntu?
[18:29] <reisio> Dasm: /msg ubottu java
[18:29] <marcinwp> dependency is not satisfiable: libglew1.5 - this is my question . I have ubuntu14.04 and software I bought in 2011, that I badly need. Any advice?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  "software you bought"... please elaborate
[18:30] <MagicSpud> k1l_ I hope youre right
[18:30] <marcinwp> bricscad v11 (V11.3.16-3-en_US.deb
[18:31] <scientaster> reisio I found a .ko file for the driver - when I try to rm -f it I hang in terminal. Any ideas?
[18:31] <marcinwp> it is CAD system for vector work - not sure if answering your questonj MonkeyDust
[18:31] <k1l_> MagicSpud: yes. that is the terminal way to update from 12.04 to 14.04
[18:32] <MagicSpud> k1l_ same problem :-( http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=75520
[18:32] <marcinwp> have problem with (as in original post) libglew1.5
[18:32] <reisio> scientaster: lsmod, rrmod/modprobe -r
[18:33] <MagicSpud> k1l_ is this only because I added some ppa's?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  trusty has libglew1.10
[18:33] <marcinwp> tried many times - even installing ancient ubuntu distributions that would have libglew1.5
[18:33] <marcinwp> which one is trusty 12.04
[18:33] <rainofkayos> .
[18:33] <marcinwp> ?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[18:33] <k1l_> MagicSpud: ys, that can be caused by PPAs that changed packages and now the updater doesnt know how to go on with that changed packages.
[18:34] <marcinwp> I had the software on 12.10 but now for waht ever reason can not reproduce it :-(
[18:34] <daftykins> trusty = 14.04
[18:34] <daftykins> precise = 12.04
[18:34] <marcinwp> I have two machines - should I (I prefer 64bit) try 64 bit?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[18:34] <k1l_> MagicSpud: ther 12.04 to 14.04 is tested  with automated testing. but they cant checkt every PPA, only the original ubuntu packages
[18:35] <MagicSpud> k1l_ I see..
[18:35] <k1l_> marcinwp: if your hardware can do 64bit go with 64bit
[18:35] <reisio> marcinwp: that's good advice
[18:35] <marcinwp> OK
[18:35] <MagicSpud> k1l_ what would you recommend me to do?
[18:36] <k1l_> MagicSpud: see if you could remove the PPAs. see if ppa-purge helps
[18:37] <MagicSpud> k1l_ is there a way to keep those ppa and upgrade at the same time?
[18:37] <MagicSpud> k1l_ deactivating them for a while perhaps?
[18:37] <k1l_> MagicSpud: try it
[18:37] <MagicSpud> k1l_ okay I would need a list of the default ppas
[18:38] <marcinwp> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[18:38] <k1l_> there are no default PPAs. all PPAs are 3rd party
[18:38] <k1l_> !ppa | MagicSpud
[18:38] <scientaster> reisio lsmod shows it's used by 0, how long should modprobe -r take? It may be hanging as well
[18:39] <reisio> scientaster: typically instantaneous
[18:39] <MagicSpud> k1l_ uh? I dont get it then...the first thing the autoupgrade did was deactivate third party software sources
[18:39] <k1l_> MagicSpud: it deactivates them, but the changed apckages are still on your system
[18:39] <MagicSpud> k1l_ ah
[18:39] <scientaster> alright - I'm leaning more and more towards a reinstall then. Thanks man
[18:40] <MagicSpud> k1l_ a dead end again
[18:41] <scientaster> reisio yeah it's hanging then - probably just going to have to reinstall. Damn rosewill driver
[18:42] <reisio> I'm sure you don't _have_ to
[18:42] <reisio> but it's conceivable it will take less time than unb0rking it
[18:42] <daftykins> rosewill? driver? 0o
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  it's 3rd party, i guess you should ask the maintainer's help http://www.bricsys.com/
[18:45] <amr> sat idle at 76 c
[18:45] <amr> bloody hell
[18:45] <daftykins> amr: that's more relevant talk in ##hardware thanks :)
[18:46] <amr> hmmm
[18:46] <marcinwp> I am affraid that it is to old version and beyond adviceing me to get new softwawer they may do not much (already helped me at the end of 2012 to get this stuff on 12.04)
[18:46] <daftykins> marcinwp: 12.04 is still good until 2017 so no need for you to upgrade
[18:49] <marcinwp> Daftykins: for whatever reason - I am getting same "depemdency is not satisfiable: libglew1.5" when getting 12.04 back as a system
[18:50] <daftykins> marcinwp: what do you mean 'getting 12.04 back as a system' ?
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  i don't understand that part either, you have 14.04
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  ^^^
[18:52] <marcinwp> formating disk and installing ubuntu 12.04
[18:52] <marcinwp> daftykins: installing 12.04 on formated disk and installing bricscad there
[18:52] <daftykins> marcinwp: ok, but as mentioned it's third party software so i'm afraid you'll need to direct support queries to them in the first instance
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  but cat /etc/issue shows 14.04
[18:53] <marcinwp> correct - I would like to get it on my current system if possible
[18:53] <marcinwp> if not - get secondary computer jsut to get this software up and running
[18:54] <marcinwp> if need - getting back ( on such secondary comp) to 12.04
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> marcinwp  you say you installed 12.04, so why does it say 14.04
[18:54] <daftykins> marcinwp: right so backup your system then clean install 12.04.5
[18:55] <marcinwp> OK - but on secondary computer - trouble is - i did it already => it has to be unrealistic, but remmeber it was crying for same dependecies
[18:55] <daftykins> marcinwp: you're not making any sense
[18:56] <marcinwp> It is unreal that 12.04 was missing libglew1.5 - right?
[18:56] <marcinwp> I KNOW
[18:56] <daftykins> no i mean your language is difficult
[18:56] <marcinwp> I must live in unlogic universe (and on my own) :-)
[18:56] <marcinwp> I will do as you advice - get 12.04 system (again)
[18:57] <daftykins> marcinwp: if you have definitely *clean installed* 12.04.5 on a system, then you can contact the company for assistance. the moment you start trying to install this software, you're going beyond the limits of what we here can help with
[18:58] <marcinwp> Thank you! for advice (sorry for not knowing how to use IRC) Thank you again - I know what to do now!
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> phew
[18:59] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: was rather trying wasn't it :/
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> i feel an urge to kill a few innocent kittens
[19:05] <ExcaliburX> I am hiring people.
[19:05] <ExcaliburX> Anyone here who's fluent in c++ and java?
[19:06] <hotsatellite> ExcacliburX,  check #java & #c++
[19:07] <Vampire-Bill> any gamers, if not here where should I ask, thank you
[19:07] <ExcaliburX> I am actually looking for someone who can make a bot for me
[19:08] <trijntje> !any
[19:08] <ExcaliburX> I will of ourse pay for the job
[19:08] <k1l_> ExcaliburX: this is the wrong channel for that. this is the technical ubuntu support channel. please see the topic
[19:09] <ExcaliburX> Can you suggest me a channel where I can find it?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> ExcaliburX  if it's for ubuntu, try ubuntu-app-devel
[19:10] <ExcaliburX> It's for actually making a bot for a game Maple Story
[19:10] <k1l_> #ubuntu-offtopic would be a start
[19:12] <Vampire-Bill> ok how to get to invite channel only for wine? I am having trouble with all games in wine and 14.04
[19:12] <k1l_> !wine | Vampire-Bill
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> Vampire-Bill  i guess you have to !register first
[19:14] <Vampire-Bill> thank you
[19:16] <Vampire-Bill> MonkeyDust: where do you do that
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> Vampire-Bill type this, here in your irc client:  /msg nickserv register password_of_your_choice your@email.address
[19:20] <Bluewolf> How do I run a md5sum on a DVD through the terminal?
[19:20] <eeee> Bluewolf: do you mean an .iso ?
[19:22] <Bluewolf> eeee: No I have done that on a .iso I want to do a md5sum on a DVD to make sure it has burned okay
[19:22] <Vampire-Bill> MonkeyDust: thank you
[19:23] <eeee> Bluewolf: i guess you could mount the .iso, get a checksum of the files, and compare them to the files on the dvd, i guess
[19:23] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[19:24] <OerHeks> just boot it and use the md5sum tool in the start menu
[19:24] <eeee> Bluewolf: if it's a live usb, you could run an integrity check
[19:25] <Fevix> A drive vanished from detection on reboot, how can I fix this?
[19:26] <Ericx2x> is there an irc for building a pc?
[19:26] <Ericx2x> i want to know if this gfx card works with this mother board: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tgd1zct6v3d7ms/Screenshot%202014-08-16%2015.23.50.png
[19:26] <OerHeks> !hardware
[19:26] <Ericx2x> has nothing to do w/ ubuntu
[19:26] <davidsong> Ericx2x: there will be a subreddit for that, have a look on reddit.com
[19:26] <OerHeks> err no, try ##hardware
[19:26] <bazhang> ##hardware Ericx2x
[19:27] <Bluewolf> eeee: Its a live DVD, OerHeks: Thanks, thats exactly what I need :D
[19:27] <Ericx2x> reddit is down
[19:29] <Fevix> A drive vanished from detection on reboot, how can I fix this?
[19:29] <trijntje> Fevix: what do you mean? It doesn't mount?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> Fevix  does lsblk see it?
[19:30] <Fevix> trijntje: It just doesn't appear. I plug it in and nothing. I plug another USB drive into that same port and it appears.
[19:30] <Fevix> MonkeyDust: No
[19:30] <Fevix> Wait
[19:30] <Fevix> Yes
[19:30] <Fevix> But it's showing as something it wasn't showing as
[19:31] <trijntje> Fevix: what does dmesg show after you plug it in?
[19:31] <Fevix> It used to be showing as a USB drive as sdd, now it's sdb
[19:32] <Fevix> trijntje: http://pastebin.com/u4DRcUpU
[19:33] <trijntje> Fevix: yes, the device letter is not guaranteed to be the same every time
[19:33] <trijntje> Fevix: you should use UUID if you want to automatically mount drives
[19:33] <trijntje> !UUID
[19:34] <Fevix> Other drives automount, though
[19:34] <Fevix> Just not this one
[19:35] <Fevix> It also used to have a partition, sdd1, but now it's no partitions
[19:36] <Fevix> How do I access this drive? I'm just wanting to reformat it so I can try everything I tried over the past week again
[19:37] <Fevix> I've been trying to get this thing to take Ubuntu like a hard drive, but I've hit wall after wall and I finally decided fukkit, and pulled up another USB drive as a live boot disk anddd'd the iso onto the usb drive, but even that didn't work
[19:37] <trijntje> Fevix: you can use gparted for that
[19:38] <trijntje> Fevix: you can just install it to the usb drive using the normal installer. Just boot from one usb, and then install it on the other usb
[19:38] <Fevix> trijntje: No, I cannot
[19:38] <Fevix> No, no no no no no no
[19:38] <Fevix> How many times do I have to tell people that no, I cannot do that
[19:39] <Fevix> Every time I try, the installer, 100% of the time, tries to jump right to installing to hard drive
[19:39] <Fevix> never lets me select a target
[19:39] <Fevix> Never lets me do anything but install to hard drive
[19:39] <Fevix> I hear of a custom mode but never see one
[19:39] <Fevix> The ONLY thing th einstaller EVER lets me do is install to hard drive
[19:40] <jhutchins> Fevix: You didn't tell us what dmesg says when you plug the device in, but it sounds a lot like it might have failed.  They do that.
[19:40] <Fevix> http://pastebin.com/u4DRcUpU
[19:40] <Fevix> I gave you a paste
[19:41] <jhutchins> Fevix: See line 15?
[19:41] <Fevix> Yes
[19:42] <Fevix> Someone had me do something to make the installer think the drive was empty so it might see it and let me install to it
[19:42] <Fevix> That failed
[19:42] <Fevix> It was something to do with /dev/zero and the drive's root (sdd at the time)
[19:43] <jhutchins> Fevix: This is why you shouldn't do things just because somebody on irc says so if you don't know what they tell you is doing.
[19:44] <Fevix> If I followed that advice, I'd never have gotten anywhere with Ubuntu and would have given up months ago and left my mother computerless
[19:44] <jhutchins> Fevix: So you've killed the partition table on the device.  If you can get fdisk or parted to create a new partition table, I believe the installer prefers that.  For a bootable USB you can have an unpartitioned drive, but if you're going to install to the drive you need a partition.
[19:44] <Fevix> What kind of partition table should I make using gparted?
[19:45] <jhutchins> Fevix: I'd just use a standard (DOS) partition table.
[19:46] <jhutchins> Fevix: You should make some effort to find out what the commands do and how.  If you've been at this for months you should be beginning to learn.
[19:46] <Fevix> I haven't been at this for months
[19:47] <Fevix> I set this up as a temporary fix until I could get my mother a desktop to replace this dilkapidates laptop, and mostly its FUBAR'd hard drive
[19:52] <penthief> Hello. My audio has stopped working after an update, has this happened to anyone else or is it just me?
[19:52] <jhutchins> Fevix: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ?
[19:53] <jhutchins> Fevix: There's also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall
[19:53] <ronaldsmazitis> hello, I'm using 12.04.05 and I have problems with plymouth-manager, as none of the themes work
[19:54] <DJ_Unibob> wow...pretty big net split.  :/
[19:54] <sagredo> YO D00dz ---> I used an USB HD to install ubuntu 14.04    with * Startup Disk Creator * and when I try to boot it fails
[19:54] <ronaldsmazitis> I'm confused, as this stuff worked back in the day
[19:55] <sagredo> is there anything I need to do
[19:55] <sagredo> not sure why it isn't working
[19:55] <penthief> sagredo: You need to provide an error message or a description of the problem.
[19:55] <viktor> can i get some help pls? i just installed ubuntu 14.04.01. problem: i'm propted for my passphrase to unlock my disk *every time* before log on screen.
[19:55] <sagredo> penthief: oh well
[19:56] <ronaldsmazitis> can I be read without identification?
[19:56] <sagredo> penthief: I tried to install 13.04 on it with a working DVD after and now dont even have the .iso
[19:56] <CrypticByte> viktor sounds like you used full disk encryption
[19:56] <sagredo> thanks anyway
[19:57] <viktor> CrypticByte, yes, i did it with my last ubuntu install too, but the disk was unlocked automatically
[19:57] <scientaster_> I have a wireless device that has a bad linux driver - how do I set it up with ndiswrapper?
[19:57] <CrypticByte> viktor question why would you even do disk encryption if you have your drive to unlock automatically that severly beats the purpose
[19:58] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[19:58] <WLM> Can everyone get an Ubuntu cloak? I've seen some people have one
[19:59] <viktor> CrypticByte, guess that's not my best idea
[19:59] <CrypticByte> viktor: just don't use disk encryption if you want something that automatically unlocks without you entering your password :-)
[19:59] <OerHeks> WLM ask in #freenode for a cloak, an ubuntu cloak is for ubuntu members, you could get an affiliated cloak
[19:59] <scientaster_> OerHeks The list of available / suported devices is a broken link on that page: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page
[19:59] <OerHeks> !cloak
[19:59] <viktor> CrypticByte, can i change the password on that?
[20:00] <WLM> I'm just a user, not a member of the organisation or something, does that count?
[20:00] <OerHeks> WLM if you have no history of banns you will be fine
[20:00] <WLM> Okay.
[20:00] <bprompt> WLM:   you've just described most people here =)
[20:02] <CrypticByte> viktor: what do you mean change the password on that?  There wont be a password if its unencrypted.  At least not during boot.  You will still have the options of having a login password and ability to encrypt your home drive.  Are you sure the last time it was just your home drive that was encrypted sounds like it cause you dont have to enter a password to unlock
[20:03] <trijntje> it could also be suspend, if the pc wakes from suspend you don't have to give the password again
[20:03] <trijntje> suspend/hibernate, I never know the difference
[20:04] <viktor> CrypticByte, i guess it must indeed just have been my home folder that was encryted. but how can i change the passphrase of my entire disk which is now encrypted? is there a way to do that?
[20:04] <CrypticByte> trijntje: true thats one reason why since i have disk encryption i dont allow suspend/hibernation.  I turn it off when i'm done and have it set when battery gets low to shutdown.
[20:05] <CrypticByte> viktor: first google result http://askubuntu.com/questions/109898/how-to-change-the-password-of-an-encrypted-lvm-system-done-with-the-alternate-i
[20:06] <CrypticByte> viktor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase seems like Gnome Disk Utility will give you a gui where you can change it
[20:06] <CrypticByte> I use Manjaro so kinda dont know the ubuntu stuff as well :P
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> WLM: I'm a me,ber :)
[20:15] <meep_> does who are knowing what is not recognize add as in sudo add repository thank
[20:17] <penthief> meep_: Do you mean "Does anyone know how to add an 'apt' repository?" ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[20:17] <meep_> welcome, I am seeking assistance for the command line in the terminal. why are"Add" and "Get"  invalid operations?
[20:18] <bekks> meep_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:18] <meep_> whenever I try to do any command that uses "add" or "get" in the command it  does not recognize those two words
[20:19] <meep_> just trying add a repository
[20:19] <bekks> meep_: Which command in particulary?
[20:19] <bekks> -y
[20:19] <meep_> for netflix
[20:19] <meep_> sudo apt add repository ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes
[20:19] <meep_> "invalid operation add"
[20:19] <bekks> meep_: Because thats an invalid command, it simply does not exist.
[20:20] <bekks> meep_: The command you are looking for is "add-apt-repository".
[20:21] <meep_> thank I didnt know the hyphen
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> meep_: use tab to autocomplete commands
[20:26] <viktor> CrypticByte, thanks, i wasn't really sure what i was looking for. is there still any point now to have a password at login?
[20:29] <IotaSpencer> What are the language packs and fonts I have to put to use say the 'look of disapproval'
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> viktor: absolutely,  especially if you use encrpted fs. Also its good if you have multiple users on the same box
[20:30] <viktor> ActionParsnip, but i have only one user. srry if it's a noob question. but what's the point of a login password if you have an encrypted disk?
[20:31] <newbie|4> I want to print out an announce over three pages.  I want to print it out in landscape orientation.  I want to set the text in portrait orientation so that it could be read from up to down rather than from left to right.  Anyone want to help me do that?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> viktor: when you login your data is also decrypted. Without password the data is decrypted unchallenged making encryption pointless
[20:33] <newbie|4> Am I on the right channel to ask that kind of question or not?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> newbie|4: if its in ubuntu then you are in the rihht place
[20:33] <newbie|4> I'm with Ubuntu 14.04
[20:34] <newbie|4> ActionParsnip: I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> newbie|4: then you are in the right place :-)
[20:35] <newbie|4> ActionParsnip: I know that there is a thing called scribus, but is that what I would need to do what I want?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> newbie|4: not sure. Maybe orhers can advise. Have you tried #scribus ?
[20:37] <newbie|4> ActionParsnip: Just asked the same question in #scribus, but there are only 31 in that channel
[20:38]  * IotaSpencer notes ttf-indic-fonts
[20:38] <ChaosBringer> If anyone else is having an issue with auto-completion when they do sudo umount <tab>
[20:38] <ChaosBringer> please confirm on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/1357715
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> newbie|4: would libreoffice do the job?
[20:41] <newbie|4> ActionParsnip: What I can't seem to find is how to turn the text 90°
[20:41] <reisio> newbie|4: I think I'd use Inkscape
[20:42] <TJ-> newbie|4: Scribus is what you want, it's a DTP package
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> newbie|4  use gimp to create an image with text, then save it and import in scribus
[20:42] <reisio> but you could just take your layout and cut it into roughly however many pieces it would take in paper, and print each of those
[20:43] <newbie|4> TJ-: That's what I thought
[20:43] <newbie|4> MonkeyDust: Sounds intelligent
[20:43] <viktor> ActionParsnip, i meant, why a password at login, while you already have a passphrase to unlock your disk before you get to login?
[20:43]  * MonkeyDust pats self on the shoulder
[20:44] <Doctor_N1ck> i keep getting "channel 5: open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out" in my ssh session, any ideas on what this means or how to fix it?
[20:44] <zt> here can i get a free znc?
[20:44] <zt> were*
[20:44] <reisio> zt: you can get a free mask on freenode by asking for one in #freenode
[20:45] <zt> okay
[20:46] <ChaosBringer> Anyone else seeing that bash issue with umount??
[20:46] <ChaosBringer> sudo umount <tab> ??
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> viktor: surely decryption after login is what happens....or do you type a passphrase before lightd shows up?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> ChaosBringer: not on Precise :)
[20:46] <ChaosBringer> sudo umount bash: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30: syntax error in expression (error token is "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30")
[20:47] <ChaosBringer> ActionParsnip, 14.04 :)
[20:47] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: no, not me
[20:47] <davidsong> works fine here
[20:47] <ChaosBringer> hmm
[20:47] <viktor> ActionParsnip, yes, the entire disk is encrypted, the first passphrase is at the start of boot
[20:47] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: what do you have mounted?
[20:48] <rsids> Hi, I'm trying to get SPDIF (ALC850) to work on my computer, I'm able to see it in alsamixer, but no sound
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> viktor: ah I see, not something I use. Too many headaches if issues occur
[20:48] <reisio> rsids: look around for toggles in alsamixer, instead of volume up/dns
[20:48] <ChaosBringer> davidsong, I have a bunch of LVMs mounted
[20:48] <reisio> rsids: SPDIF might show as an IEEE name
[20:48] <ChaosBringer> but nothing "removable" per-se
[20:48] <reisio> IEC 61937
[20:48] <viktor> ActionParsnip, haha, i hope that won't happen
[20:49] <ChaosBringer> would you guys be able to give me a copy of the files located in /usr/share/bash-completion/completions
[20:49] <ChaosBringer> to see if replacing them helps? (could have gotten corrupted)
[20:49] <reisio> ChaosBringer: apt-get can
[20:49] <ChaosBringer> I know a few guys here last night did have the same issue
[20:49] <ChaosBringer> k, reinstalling
[20:49] <rsids> I can set S/PDIF to IEC958IN, PCM or Analog In
[20:49] <ChaosBringer> same problem
[20:50] <reisio> rsids: try each
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> rsids: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[20:51] <ChaosBringer> davidsong, do you have bash-completion installed?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> ChaosBringer: how is a reinstall a fix?
[20:51] <ChaosBringer> No, i wanted to replace the files there
[20:51] <ChaosBringer> /usr/share/bash-completion/completions is where I believe the bug is located
[20:51] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: yeah I guess so anyway, I'm pawing through umount and umount.linux at the moment
[20:51] <davidsong> which one is the problem?
[20:52] <ChaosBringer> it's either umount or umount.linux
[20:52] <ChaosBringer> i'm not sure
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> ChaosBringer: you could grab the file from Precise and compare the entry for umount....
[20:52] <davidsong> throw an echo in and see what happens?
[20:52] <ChaosBringer> I filed a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/1357715
[20:52] <ChaosBringer> Hmm, let's see
[20:52] <rsids> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=18925a4cadadb6bae57fb6671cdac54514d026e8
[20:53] <davidsong> does it happen when you do it without sudo?
[20:53] <ChaosBringer> yeah
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> rsids: mint isnt supported here
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> rsids: mint has its own support channels which are entirelt separate to ubuntu's
[20:54] <rsids> crap, mint IRC channel is kinda deserted :P
[20:54] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: not sure how to figure out which one is being executed
[20:54] <davidsong> maybe "strace bash" and see what happens when you press tab?
[20:54] <ChaosBringer> Looks like Trusty has the same umount file
[20:54] <rsids> And I see some Ubuntu users having the same problem
[20:54] <ChaosBringer> comparing the umount.linux one now
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> rsids: the mint channel is where you are supported. Not here
[20:55] <rsids> tnx anyway
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Np
[20:55] <ChaosBringer> Same for the .linux file
[20:55] <lefteris> ???
[20:55] <lefteris> kanis edo???
[20:56] <ChaosBringer> there's no umount in the completions for precise
[20:56] <k1l> !gr | lefteris
[20:57] <davidsong> strace is such a ballache to use
[20:57] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: what was the PWD when you ran the command?
[20:57] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, any
[20:58] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: I can't reproduce it
[20:58] <rsids> ActionParsnip: Is there any way of telling of this soundcard is supported at all? It's a fresh install anyway, so switching to ubuntu might be an option.
[20:58] <ChaosBringer> I just do
[20:58] <root_> hola
[20:58] <ChaosBringer> sudo umount <tab>
[20:58] <ChaosBringer> and I get that error in expression issue
[20:58] <reisio> rsids: mint is ubuntu, just not in a way that it's supported here :)
[20:58] <k1l> !rootirc > root_
[20:59] <rsids> I know :)
[20:59] <penthief> ChaosBringer: zsh has very good completion....
[20:59] <ChaosBringer> I have nothing else installed that should affect that, just installed this fresh linux recently
[20:59] <ChaosBringer> penthief, no thanks :)
[20:59] <ChaosBringer> I don't like zsh
[21:00] <ChaosBringer> If i fix this then I'll installed bash-it (which is a clone of oh-my-zsh)
[21:00] <ChaosBringer> i'll install*
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> rsids: not sure. Most are
[21:01] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: looks like both umount and umount.linux are run
[21:01] <ChaosBringer> There's no line in the error
[21:01] <ChaosBringer> let me try
[21:02] <ChaosBringer> just strace bash on another terminal
[21:02] <ChaosBringer> right?
[21:02] <davidsong> strace -o ~/strace.output bash
[21:02] <penthief> strace sounds very low level for debugging bash completion, surely? Even "bash -x" would be better.
[21:03] <davidsong> yeah I guess it is
[21:03] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.com/FgcGRBqq
[21:03] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: debug it with: "set -x" then "sudo umount <tab>"
[21:03] <_VooDoo> were can i find: [14:03] <osbot> You must be in one of my channels to auth.
[21:03] <ChaosBringer> Ok
[21:03] <_VooDoo> osbot channel?
[21:04] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, got some output
[21:04] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Please pastebin the last lines, as many as you can manage
[21:04] <Ontsi> Hello
[21:04] <_VooDoo> !auth LauGucci
[21:04] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: We ought to be able to match that to the completion scripts
[21:05] <k1l> _VooDoo: that is not a topic for #ubuntu. try #freenode
[21:05] <ChaosBringer> I see the error in the output
[21:05] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: You'll need "set +x" to stop that shell from dumping every script it executes :)
[21:05] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, I just exit
[21:06] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: That loses the internal debug info
[21:06] <ChaosBringer> Yeah but i'm using terminator
[21:07] <ChaosBringer> so I'm copying the output
[21:07] <ChaosBringer> as it happens
[21:07] <ChaosBringer> Is that incorrect?
[21:07] <root____> test
[21:08] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Have you reproduced the issue outside of terminator?
[21:08] <ChaosBringer> Yeah
[21:08] <guntbert> ChaosBringer: please don't press <enter> so often, you are scrolling hte channel even faster
[21:08] <k1l> !rootirc > root____
[21:08] <root____> can someone hold my hand thro installing kernel lv touch pad drivers that are not ment for the kernel i am using ?
[21:08] <_VooDoo> !root
[21:10] <root____> and im not too worried about being root atm, its a live session
[21:10] <ChaosBringer> Ugh, trying to paste keeps crashing the site, and i have 32 GB of ram
[21:10] <ChaosBringer> that's insane
[21:11] <root____> install is done i will return
[21:13] <Jammerx2> Anyone here have experience with System76? I was thinking of getting this laptop: https://system76.com/laptops/model/kudp1
[21:13] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, https://gist.github.com/vpassapera/18c069166b2468c64dd3
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Jammerx2  #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:13] <Metronome> hey
[21:14] <davidsong> Jammerx2: I bought a Dell Ubuntu dev book and to be honest I wish I'd just bought something with Windows on it
[21:14] <Metronome> Has anyone had the problem of not being able to find a program in the Ubuntu Software Center that you want to uninstall?
[21:14] <Jammerx2> I can always install Windows on it (chances are I would eventually for development, I have access to MSDN so the license wouldn't be an issue)
[21:15] <bekks> Metronome: Which program do you want to uninstall?
[21:15] <ChaosBringer> Metronome, use synaptic
[21:15] <guntbert> Metronome: which program?
[21:15] <davidsong> Jammerx2: I don't miss windows, just there's a lot more choice out there. Dell's offering was sub-par for the price
[21:15] <Metronome> p7zip
[21:15] <Metronome> I don't know where it's located, or even know what the linux file system really looks like
[21:15] <davidsong> may as well get the best choice of hardware regardless of OS or freedom, since everyone's getting shafted by the NSA anyway
[21:16] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: So, /usr/share/bash-completion/bash-completions/umount.linux::_reply_compgen_array()
[21:16] <xangua> sudo apt-get remove p7zip-full
[21:16] <Metronome> What is the full path that stuff is usually downloaded to on Ubuntu?
[21:17] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: which is called from "_linux_fstab()" ... so, something in the fstab in that system
[21:17] <guntbert> Metronome: you don't need that for uninstalling it
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> Metronome  /usr/bin
[21:17] <geirha> Metronome: packages are spread around the filesystem
[21:17] <bekks> Metronome: Most likely your howm directory, and various other directories.
[21:17] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, so my /etc/fstab has errors?
[21:17] <davidsong> Metronome: you can see what files a package installed using dpkg
[21:17] <ChaosBringer> Should I post that here? (My system boots up fine and all my mounts are ok)
[21:17] <bekks> Metronome: you dont need to delete files, since you want to uninstall a package.
[21:17] <ChaosBringer> Or a link to my fstab file rather
[21:18] <JonJ> I have an Asus UX302LA which I just installed 14.04 on. Everything looks alright, but I can't get the controls for the backlight to work. I've tried running some nightly builds of the linux kernel and tried booting with acpi_osi=NULL and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have a workaround?
[21:18] <nonroot> basicly what i am reading guys is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190187 but im running Linux c720 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:18] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Not sure, but that is the call stack leading up to the error. You should add that info and the last 30 lines of the pastebin to the bug report
[21:18] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Can't hurt to include the /etc/fstab attached to the bug report either
[21:19] <jradd> If I restart my Ubuntu server and go into `Recovery Mode` is that essentially what many other flavours of linux would consider `Single User Mode` or `RL 0`? Can you use `init 1` to accomplish the same thing, or some other command at boot?
[21:19] <ChaosBringer> kk
[21:20] <k1l> nonroot: 3.11 is no supported ubuntu kernel
[21:20] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: I'll assign your bug to myself and follow up on it next week
[21:20] <nonroot> i just installed ubuntu so its the one from the iso i dd to usb. ??
[21:21] <lordbachus> +
[21:21] <lordbachus> ++++
[21:21] <k1l> nonroot: 3.11 was in 13.10 and that is already gone EOL
[21:22] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: something something COMPREPLY
[21:23] <ChaosBringer> Added the info to the bug!
[21:23] <ChaosBringer> Thanks guys!
[21:23] <Metronome> thanks
[21:23] <nonroot> k1l so i need upgrade?
[21:23] <jradd> Is there a way to boot into single user mode or runlevel 0 in ubuntu?
[21:24] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: nah thank you, not from us but from the next guy who has that problem. it's always good to see a bug get raised
[21:24] <ChaosBringer> Well, I've been using ubuntu exclusively for almost 10 years now
[21:24] <ChaosBringer> anything I can do
[21:24] <k1l> nonroot: ofcourse
[21:25] <nonroot> okay will do
[21:25] <ChaosBringer> davidsong, looks like the issue is here: local i wlist+ for i in '${!COMPREPLY[*]}'
[21:25] <ChaosBringer> like you said
[21:26] <jitsinewbie> Does anyone here do videoconferences on their GNU/Linux desktop computer without using Skype?
[21:26] <davidsong> yeah I'm not too familiar with bash syntax
[21:26] <davidsong> I dunno what it should be set to
[21:26] <ChaosBringer> jitsinewbie, there's a bunch of alternatives (mikogo, teamviewer, etc)
[21:26] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: As you're the one who can reproduce it, you could try to narrow it down by adding debug "echo ...." statements jsut before the failing statement so we can see precisely what is in the variable, and track it back by adding "echo   " further back in the call stack until we find which statement puts the erroneous entries in the array variable
[21:26] <ChaosBringer> davidsong, same here
[21:26] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, for sure
[21:27] <k1l> jitsinewbie: see this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/30693/what-video-conferencing-software-is-available
[21:27] <ChaosBringer> I wonder if there's an IDE for bash that has code stepping
[21:27] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: My hunch is the error is in the _linux_fstab() function since it creates an empty COMPREPLY array on entry, so something in that function is setting COMPREPLY to the bad value
[21:28] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: It is possible to add a "trap" that prints debug info for every statement
[21:28] <davidsong> ChaosBringer: mine looks like this: https://gist.github.com/bitplane/0e03b8c3a9df375e1c41
[21:29] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: But there's so little in that function it's not really worth doing that... just bisect the function... put "echo "$COMPREPLY" in various places and move them around until you find the statement causing the bunch of numbers to be assigned to the array
[21:29] <geirha> based on the -x output, error appears to be that it uses "${!COMPREPLY[*]}" instead of "${!COMPREPLY[@]}"
[21:29] <ChaosBringer> Yeah
[21:29] <ChaosBringer> i've always seen @
[21:29] <ChaosBringer> never *
[21:29] <ChaosBringer> @ assigns the current index to i
[21:30] <ChaosBringer> correct?
[21:30] <geirha> and the eval later on can't make things better. Good thing I keep that disabled
[21:30] <ChaosBringer> Ok so yeah
[21:30] <ChaosBringer> I added echo ${COMREPLY}
[21:30] <geirha> the difference is that * mashes it into a single string, while @ expands the elements separately
[21:31] <ChaosBringer> and now I get the error twice
[21:31] <ChaosBringer> http://pastebin.com/c4qqCzqB
[21:32] <UltimaKR> Hello, I was hoping someone could help me with reading an IDE hard drive. I have a computer with Lubuntu 12.10 and I was trying to retrieve data off an old HDD. I set it to slave and plugged it in, but I am not sure how to access it in Lubuntu.
[21:32] <jradd> what filesystem does that drive use?
[21:33] <jitsinewbie> ChaosBringer, none of the apps you mention are viable alternatives to Skype. I do not want to use Skype. So far the  best videoconference app i have found is jitsi but i have not found any newbie friendly tutorial about configuring it for videoconferences. I am not talking about install jitsi, i am talking about configuring it
[21:33] <geirha> ChaosBringer: Ah, it is ${!COMPREPLY[*]} unquoted, that means IFS is something other than the default otherwise it would've worked. Still bad practice though.
[21:34] <geirha> ChaosBringer: It should have been  for i in "${!COMPREPLY[@]}"; do   including the quotes. Quotes are incredibly important
[21:34] <UltimaKR> jradd: I am not sure, it has windows xp installed on it.
[21:34] <kostkon> jitsinewbie, google hangouts?
[21:34] <ChaosBringer> geirha, now the error is changed:
[21:35] <ChaosBringer> sudo umount bash: 0123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930: value too great for base (error token is "0123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930")
[21:35] <geirha> ChaosBringer: @, not *
[21:35] <Zer0sec> Yo
[21:35] <ChaosBringer> Right
[21:35] <Zer0sec> Anyone know how to install xchat to kali linux!
[21:35] <jitsinewbie> kostkon, no google no microsoft please. No closed source app recommendations, please!
[21:35] <ChaosBringer> let me changed that lol
[21:35] <geirha> ChaosBringer: also echo ${COMPREPLY} is the same as echo ${COMPREPLY[0]} so not much useful
[21:36] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: You'll need to put the debug statements in _linux_fstab() to pinpoint the source of the error.
[21:36] <Zer0sec> Anyone know how to install xchat to kali linux!
[21:36] <ChaosBringer> Yep
[21:36] <ChaosBringer> works
[21:36] <ChaosBringer> I get the output of all my mounts now (from fstab)
[21:36] <xangua> Zer0sec: http://www.kali.org/community/
[21:36] <Zer0sec> ty
[21:37] <kostkon> jitsinewbie, a sip based one, like Ekiga maybe?
[21:37] <geirha> the use of eval is also a bug in my opinion
[21:37] <kostkon> jitsinewbie, http://ekiga.org/   available from the software centre
[21:37] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: can you "pastebinit /proc/mounts" ?
[21:37] <geirha> but bash-completion does that stuff all over the place, so I just disable the whole thing
[21:38] <k1l> ChaosBringer: would you please not start a new line for every single word? you can put 512 chars into one IRC message
[21:38] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, you want me to pastebin /proc/mounts?
[21:38] <geirha> TJ-: Uhm, he got it working now ...
[21:38] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Yes please; that is what is being parsed to cause the failure
[21:39] <ChaosBringer> Kk
[21:39] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: I can use that data to manually call the script here, and see if I can reproduce
[21:40] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/WJmDYm2H
[21:41] <ChaosBringer> Noticed that the encryptfs_sig is posted on there
[21:41] <ChaosBringer> is that something I should be concerned with?
[21:41] <geirha> TJ-: You can reproduce it by running   IFS=   and then  sudo umount <tab>
[21:42] <jradd> UltimaKR: I went afk for a bit. Sounds like it is likely NTFS, but maybe FAT32
[21:42] <geirha> there's probably some other completion function that modifies IFS globally, causing bugs like that to trigger
[21:42] <jradd> UltimaKR: Do you see the drive when you run `fdisk -l` ?
[21:42] <ChaosBringer> geirha, the output of it (after patching the file) is the following: http://pastebin.com/bu2rEb0W
[21:43] <TJ-> geirha: I can't
[21:43] <geirha> ChaosBringer: ah ok, more bugs I see.  Try running:   IFS=$' \t\n'   and try again
[21:44] <penthief> TJ-: I can, FWIW.
[21:44] <ChaosBringer> geirha, YEP. that fixes it I see this now: http://pastebin.com/WuXMzAdH
[21:45] <ChaosBringer> Although, it's including the actual LVM volumes, and not only the mount points
[21:45] <ChaosBringer> But by far the best output yet
[21:45] <TJ-> OK, I can now :)
[21:46] <geirha> ChaosBringer: right, it's using unquoted expansions that rely on IFS being at its default value and that the data don't contain glob characters
[21:47] <UltimaKR> jradd: checking now
[21:47] <geirha> It probably stems from the authors of the bash-completion scripts learning bash from the ABS guide, which teaches such bugs.
[21:48] <UltimaKR> jradd: I have it plugged in by usb now to the computer with lubuntu 14...is it the same command?
[21:48] <jradd> UltimaKR: Yeah, same command.
[21:49] <ChaosBringer> Ok, so geirha should I add that to the same bash file?
[21:49] <ChaosBringer> Is that final pastebin the correct expected output?
[21:50] <jradd> UltimaKR: Try to identify the device in question by looking at the sizes. It will more than likely be the last one listed as well, but maybe not.
[21:51] <UltimaKR> jradd: that command didn't do anything
[21:51] <jradd> UltimaKR: `sudo fdisk -l` (dash lower case `L`)
[21:52] <athaneum> Hi all. My speakers seem to not be as loud as when I had windows?
[21:52] <jradd> UltimaKR: What do you mean it did nothing? no error even?
[21:53] <geirha> ChaosBringer: I don't know. It looks like things you'd want to complete at least. As for the fix, it's two-fold. 1. Code should not rely on a globally set IFS, and 2. Code should not modify IFS globally to avoid triggering #1
[21:53] <ToBeFree> !rootirc
[21:53] <ChaosBringer> Towards the end of umount.linux I see an if else that has the local IFS
[21:53] <ToBeFree> ah, nice
[21:53] <athaneum> Hey all. My speakers don't seem to be as loud as when I used windows?
[21:53] <ChaosBringer> geirha, I'm not familiar with the best practices for bash but that sounds logical
[21:54] <jradd> athaneum:You might try running the command `alsamixer` and check volume levels. That is if you are using Alsa
[21:54] <geirha> ChaosBringer: But I don't have the time or energy to debug and fix this. Especially since I don't use bash-completion and I don't need it.
[21:54] <UltimaKR> jradd: it just did with the sudo part...i see /sda6 and whatnot but it looks like just 1 disk
[21:54] <ChaosBringer> However, i do see the local instance of IFS in the umount.linux script does not contain the same lines you showed me and instead appends /proc/mounts to _linux_+fstab
[21:54] <athaneum> I am not sure?
[21:55] <jradd> athaneum: run the command and see
[21:55] <geirha> The code is following the usual anti-patterns we fight daily in #bash
[21:55] <athaneum> Everytime I use VLC I have to override the controls and go about 100 percent to hear anything
[21:55] <ToBeFree> athaneum: check the system's volume settings
[21:55] <jradd> UltimaKR: Do you have the capability to plug this HDD directly into the system via SATA, or IDE?
[21:55] <athaneum> How do I do that?
[21:55] <k1l> athaneum: see in the audio settings in the panel if the program is pulled down
[21:56] <ToBeFree> athaneum: maybe in the menu that also contains the WiFi settings, there might be a little widget for it
[21:56] <ToBeFree> panel* it is
[21:56] <UltimaKR> jradd: only the computer with 12.10 lubuntu, not this one
[21:56] <UltimaKR> jradd: that computer did not see it either though
[21:56] <jradd> UltimaKR: Does your BIOS detect it? Does it "spin up" (Power on)?
[21:57] <UltimaKR> jradd: bios im not sure, but it does power up
[21:57] <athaneum> ok I am in sound settings and nothing seems abnormal
[21:57] <UltimaKR> jradd: let me check on that
[21:57] <ChaosBringer> geirha, well, thank you for your help so far. Hopefully, TJ- and I can take it from here
[21:58] <jradd> athaneum:  open your terminal and run the command `alsamixer`
[21:58] <k1l> athaneum: go to the programs tab in the audio settings
[21:59] <jradd> UltimaKR: I dont think the BIOS will necessarily detect it if it is USB. I would make sure it is directly attached to test that
[21:59] <UltimaKR> jradd: im going to test on the directly plugged in one
[22:00] <athaneum> jradd: ok I am in alsmixer
[22:00] <jradd> athaneum: Do you see any levels too low? or any "MM" that should not be?
[22:00] <jradd> athaneum: you can also change drivers with `F6` i believe
[22:01] <ChicagoGupta> Hello World
[22:01] <delinquentme> So I feel like this is a crazy question.. but Im having REALLY slow browser response times  ... just running ~30 tabs of chrome ... 4GB mem in the machine and its an i7 ... should this be happening?  I cant help but shake the feeling that since I purchased the computer second hand ... it might have something malware related installed on it ... even if I'm running ubuntu
[22:02] <UltimaKR> jradd: Primary Drive 0 is "Hard Drive" (that is correct), but Primary Drive 1 (the one I want) says "Unknown Device)
[22:02] <athaneum> jradd: to be honest I am not really sure what I am looking at
[22:03] <jradd> athaneum: Yeah, it is not exactly intuitive. lol. I would just try turning some levels up and see if it makes a difference while playing VLC
[22:04] <athaneum> jradd: line has mm next to it and then the next two after that
[22:04] <jradd> athaneum: line should not matter. It should just be "Master" that matters
[22:04] <UltimaKR> jradd: Primary Drive 0 is "Hard Drive" (that is correct), but Primary Drive 1 (the one I want) says "Unknown Device"
[22:04] <jradd> you can hit "m" on your kb to Mute/Unmute, left right to navigate,
[22:05] <kostkon> delinquentme, chrome creates a new process for every tab so it tends to utilise your resources (cpu, ram) better. Also, flash content (e.g. ads) generally eats a lot of cpu. Same for html5 rich websites (probably).
[22:05] <jradd> UltimaKR: this is the BIOS that says this?
[22:06] <UltimaKR> jradd: yes under "setup" and "boot sequence" from dell
[22:06] <jradd> UltimaKR: If the BIOS says "Unkown Device" that is certainly better than not detecting!
[22:06] <UltimaKR> jradd: Should I boot back into lubuntu (this one is 12.10)
[22:06] <jradd> UltimaKR: I would go ahead and boot into linux (if that is what it is attached to) and try copying the image of that drive to a backup if you have the space
[22:06] <athaneum> jradd: I have tried a few things. doesn’t seem to change anything
[22:07] <UltimaKR> jradd: How do I do that if the drive cannot really be read
[22:07] <jradd> athaneum: That is too bad. It must be related to your sound card/driver. either you need a better driver or you need a better supported sound card. those are my guesses anyways
[22:07] <Guest20308> Hola como estan quisira aprender progrmacion
[22:08] <jradd> UltimaKR: I am curious if fdisk will see it after rebooting with it attached directly.
[22:08] <UltimaKR> jradd: Booting it says "Secondary hard disk drive 0 not found"
[22:08] <athaneum> jradd: so why would it have woe with worked fine with windows this monrning?
[22:09] <jradd> UltimaKR: that should be okay (the disk we want is Primary 1 i think)
[22:09] <athaneum> jradd: ok I get you. where do I go to find out about installing  a better driver. I am using a hp 640 G1
[22:09] <UltimaKR> jradd: Why is that error coming up? I plugged it into the IDE cable that should be Primary 1, not a secondary anything
[22:09] <NotBanned> Hahaha No banned
[22:10] <jradd> UltimaKR: I think you might have an additional IDE controller enabled in your BIOS but not one plugged in
[22:10] <jradd> athaneum: I don't want to say google it, but that is really all I got :)
[22:10] <jradd> :(
[22:11] <ChaosBringer> geirha, TJ- fixed it.
[22:11] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Did you set the Master/Slave/Cable Select jumpers on the drive correctly?
[22:11] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: What did you dod?
[22:11] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, posting a patch now
[22:11] <jradd> It has been a looong time since I have had to mess with those jumpers. lol
[22:11] <athaneum> jradd: ok thanks anyway
[22:12] <UltimaKR> TJ-: Yes, the drive's label says exactly what to put
[22:12] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/1357715
[22:12] <ChaosBringer> Can you delete the previous patch I posted?
[22:12] <UltimaKR> jradd: The Fdisk thing says stuff about not having a valid partition table
[22:12] <jradd> UltimaKR: good news
[22:12] <jradd> UltimaKR: it is supposed to say that
[22:13] <jradd> UltimaKR: I am curious what you are trying to accomplish here? backup, copy files, recover, fix, etc ?
[22:13] <UltimaKR> jradd: The primary 0 looks fine, but lots of stuff about mapper and root for sdb
[22:13] <UltimaKR> jradd: Backup and then reinitialize to clear any corruption and then replace XP with Lubuntu for a friend's old PC
[22:13] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Which suggests some outside script, possibly sourced by bashrc, could be setting IFS incorrectly. That terminator shell you're using, maybe it does something 'clever' with its own rc shell files?
[22:14] <wheatthin> UltimaKR, it's probably because you're using a GPT partition scheme, and fdisk doesn't support it
[22:14] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, i had the same error in the normal terminal
[22:14] <jradd> UltimaKR: i see. do you have enough storage to backup the entire disk to your own?
[22:14] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: No, because they are pure comments not Attachments... it doesn't matter about that though
[22:14] <ChaosBringer> Terminator uses the same files as the standard terminal
[22:14] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, Ok. Understood. Should I upload a patch file then?
[22:15] <UltimaKR> jradd: I should, or I have an external drive present, but how do I back it up if I cannot access it?
[22:15] <UltimaKR> wheatthin: So what should I do?
[22:15] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: OK, well something else in the bash environment is setting the global IFS to something other than expected... I've traced it's value in a clean bash environment and it is set correctly to space tab newline on entry to _linux_fstab()
[22:15] <ChaosBringer> Hmm, weird. Let me check my bashrc and bash_profile files
[22:15] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: No, that'll be fine, I'll use that as the basis of a package patch... I'll do it next week
[22:15] <jradd> UltimaKR: It sounds like linux IS detecting it now, so that is good. I would clone it with "dd" before attempting anything, but that is bwecause I am really paranoid about losing data
[22:16] <wheatthin> UltimaKR, You can use parted to view your partition.. you can most likely mount your drive still via livedvd
[22:16] <jradd> UltimaKR: But I can show you how to mount it if you'd like
[22:16] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, you're right. IFS is being unset in my bashrc file but it's AFTER loading the bash-completion scripts
[22:16] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: I'm debugging with: "_linux_fstab()", "{" ,"    echo "DEBUG: IFS=$(echo $IFS | hexdump)" >>/tmp/IFS.txt", "    COMPREPLY=()" and looking at "/tmp/IFS.txt"
[22:17] <UltimaKR> jradd: I am really unfamiliar with all of this so forgive me if I sound stupid, but dd is?
[22:17] <UltimaKR> wheatthin: parted? And I can probably wipe it out and do that install with livedvd, but I want to back it up first
[22:17] <ChaosBringer> KK, TJ- Where are you running that?
[22:17] <ChaosBringer> I'm not used to debugging bash applications
[22:17] <jradd> UltimaKR: I would first try to run `sudo mount /dev/$DEVICEID /media/$SOMEDIR` and see if that works
[22:18] <geirha> echo $IFS is pointless. you need echo "$IFS", otherwise the value of IFS gets split on the content of IFS
[22:20] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8066233/
[22:20] <UltimaKR> jradd: "mount: /dev is not a block device"
[22:20] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, Gotcha
[22:20] <geirha> To debug completion functions, I recommend doing   exec {fd}>/tmp/xtrace.out; BASH_XTRACEFD=$fd; set -x    in the interactive shell,   then tail -f /tmp/xtrace.out in another terminal
[22:20] <jradd> UltimaKR: I can see that you are new to this, I don't know how much I will be able to help without teaching you for for 3 weeks straight. lol
[22:21] <mojtaba1> Hi, Is there anyway to download all videos in a website with wget? (for example perfoming a search and give the address of the result to the wget)
[22:21] <geirha> and to see what a variable expands to, use : (the null command)
[22:21] <jradd> the command would actually be something like `mount /dev/sdd2` /media/cdrive`
[22:22] <ChaosBringer> Thanks geirha. TJ- do you want me to run that along as well?
[22:22] <ChaosBringer> I'll remove the fix i added to apply something proper perhaps?
[22:22] <UltimaKR> jradd: So what does that response tell me
[22:22] <ChaosBringer> The fix geirha pointed me to rather
[22:22] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: It'd be interesting to know what IFS is set to when you hit the issue. Knowing that might help identify where it comes from
[22:22] <jradd> UltimaKR: You have to identify the exact block device in question. The disk is probably on /dev/sdc, if so, then it should have /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdc2, and maybe even /dev/sdc3
[22:23] <ChaosBringer> Kk, on it
[22:23] <UltimaKR> jradd: And what actually is sdc? i read sdb when doing fdisk
[22:24] <jradd> /dev/sd + some_letter == volume. /dev/sdc + some_number == partition
[22:24] <mojtaba1> Hi, Is there anyway to download all videos in a website with wget? (for example perfoming a search and give the address of the result to the wget)
[22:25] <jradd> a typical windows disk will have at least 2 partitions, so if the volume is on /dev/sdb then it should have /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2
[22:25] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, it is the unset IFS at the end of my bashrc that was causing that error. It came from bash-it
[22:25] <ChaosBringer> I'll file a bug there as well.
[22:26] <UltimaKR> jradd: How do i know which? It says sdb does not have a valid partition table
[22:26] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Nice one.. add that as another project to the existing bug report
[22:26] <ChaosBringer> When I remove the unset, I get: DEBUG: IFS=0000000 0920 0a0a 0000004
[22:26] <jradd> UltimaKR: /dev/sdb1 is probably the windows boot partition, and /dev/sdb2 is likely to be the C drive. But it gets wayyy more complicated than this if it does not mount. you have to find the offset of which the partition begins in memory and mount it manually. not somethingg that wil be easy to explain
[22:26] <ChaosBringer> When it's present I get: DEBUG: IFS=0000000 000a 0000001
[22:27] <homesickowl> hello folks, is it possible to hide this envelope icon on top panel containing xchat, thunderbird and alike programs?
[22:27] <SchrodingersScat> mojtaba1: possibly, depends on the site, not really a #ubuntu thing
[22:27] <UltimaKR> jradd: Can't find sdb1. What is your suggestion?
[22:27] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: correction: add that as another Distro/package to the bug report
[22:28] <jradd> UltimaKR: you can try `sudo df -h` and see if that sees it. you can also check in your graphical menu for the "disk utility" and that might be easier
[22:28] <jradd> UltimaKR: how large is "sdb"? in
[22:28] <_1_leon121> hey
[22:28] <TJ-> UltimaKR: jradd how about "sudo lsblk"  ?
[22:28] <jradd> UltimaKR: I mean what is the size of "sdb"
[22:29] <UltimaKR> jradd: What disk utility? And by size if you mean how many GB, its an 80 GB drive
[22:29] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, the bash-it project is hosted on github, how do I proceed? (The dropdown is only giving me certain options )
[22:29] <jradd> TJ: hells yes, i forgot about that!
[22:29] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Ahhh, it's not an Ubuntu package?
[22:29] <talgolan65380> Kabini APU w/ HD8210 GCN based GPU and 14.04 64 bit. How do I get the UVD/VDPAU/VAAPI stuff working with the OSS drivers? I tried Movie Player, VLC and MPV and all 3 are using CPU decoding for video playback
[22:30] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, No. Bash-it is an extension to bash. I had disabled it, but copied and pasted parts of it into my bashrc to add some functionality (git on prompt, etc)
[22:30] <UltimaKR> jradd: the df -h thing only mentions sda1
[22:30] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: You said earlier it was a fresh Ubuntu install, so I took that to mean you'd not added any additional packages to the base install
[22:30] <jradd> UltimaKR: I mean how many bytes do you see sdb as using fdisk or something? not the size of the hard disk (hopefully they are the same ish)
[22:30] <jradd> UltimaKR: `sudo lsblk` what about that?
[22:30] <ChaosBringer> TJ-, Yeah. I apologize for that. Didn't realize that package was doing that. I just installed this yesterday and added that as one of the first packages
[22:30] <ChaosBringer> it just as unset IFS;
[22:31] <UltimaKR> jradd: I am not sure at this point that it even HAS  boot partition
[22:31] <TJ-> ChaosBringer: Nice to have a quick resolution :)
[22:31] <geirha> Still, it's a bug with bash-completion that it chokes on IFS not being default
[22:31] <ChaosBringer> Agreed
[22:31] <UltimaKR> jradd: doing lsblk lists sda and then divides it into partitions, but sdb says 74.5 GB type disk, but nothing below that
[22:31] <TJ-> geirha: Yes, it does things correctly in other places
[22:32] <jradd> UltimaKR: cool, that looks like it
[22:32] <jradd> UltimaKR: first you need to create a directory for which you will mount the drive to
[22:33] <UltimaKR> jradd: I'm sorry, but could you please explain how to do that? I never even did this much stuff on windows for a drive
[22:33] <TJ-> UltimaKR: jradd There's also "sudo blkid" if you're looking for potential file-systems
[22:33] <jradd> UltimaKR: for example: `sudo mkdir /media/friendsharddrive`
[22:33] <UltimaKR> jradd: is it /media or am i substituting something?
[22:34] <jradd> UltimaKR, it can be virtually anywhere you want really, but conventions would state that you put it in /media or maybe /mnt
[22:35] <jradd> UltimaKR: what does it say about sdb when you run `sudo blkid` ?
[22:35] <UltimaKR> jradd: Ok done, let me run that
[22:35] <UltimaKR> jradd: something about an sda1 and an sda5
[22:36] <jradd> but nothing about sdb
[22:36] <UltimaKR> jradd: Not a thing
[22:36] <jradd> yeah, because it cannot understand the partition table of ntfs
[22:37] <UltimaKR> jradd: Be right back, have to go out so will open it on phone
[22:37] <jradd> that is why mounting can be effin tricky sometimes
[22:37] <jradd> but to do so you would find the offset of which you want to mount. so run `sudo fdisk -l`
[22:38] <jradd> and see if you can see what it says about the "Cylinder start" of sdb
[22:38] <Beldar> jradd, Have them run a chkdsk if they have  windows install, linux is picky there.
[22:38] <TJ-> jradd: if lsblk only showed the raw device, there's no partition table
[22:38] <jradd> Beldar: no problem with the disk, just trying to mount from my understanding.
[22:38] <Norfenstein> I just updated chromium and flash on 12.04 and flash videos no longer work, can anyone help?
[22:39] <jradd> TJ: you are right, i am looking on my system and it shows the ntfs when i run lsblk
[22:39] <jradd> hmmm
[22:39] <Beldar> Norfenstein, Are you using the pepper flash?
[22:40] <TJ-> jradd: I think it would be worth looking in "/var/log/kern.log" for signs of disk I/O errors on sdb
[22:40] <Norfenstein> I didn't think I was
[22:40] <TJ-> jradd: might save some time :)
[22:40] <Beldar> Norfenstein, You have to install it.
[22:40] <Beldar> if you want it
[22:40] <Norfenstein> that's needed for this version of chromium but it wasn't for the previous?
[22:41] <Beldar> Norfenstein, No, it is just the chrome flash
[22:41] <Beldar> Norfenstein, You give virtually no info, I'm phishing.
[22:42] <UltimaKR_> jradd: ok I'm back..what next after making the directory?
[22:42] <Norfenstein> I don't think I understand; I have the package chromium-browser and adobe-flashplugin, earlier today they worked, I did an update and now flash videos don't work anymore
[22:42] <jradd> UltimaKR: run the command `less /var/log/kern.log` and then when that opens type "/sdb" then hit enter. use ('n' or 'N' to go next/prev)
[22:42] <elite_> hi all i need some help im trying to generate a signal tone lasting 45 seconds just a sine wave can anyone help me do this please? of a certain frequency
[22:42] <kostkon> Norfenstein, that's not the right paclage for chromium
[22:42] <cynicallemon> almost easier to install google-chrome browser as pepperflash package downloads its and extracts the api
[22:42] <jradd> UltimaKR: I just want to see if there are any errors in /var/log/kern.log regarding the disk
[22:42] <Beldar> Norfenstein, And you have had the browser closed since the update, not running in the background like chrome does?
[22:43] <Norfenstein> I've had the computer off since the update
[22:43] <daftykins> elite_: totally irrelevant to this channel, try #linux
[22:43] <Norfenstein> kostkon: don't know what you mean, but maybe that changed since ubuntu 12.04, which is what I'm on?
[22:43] <kostkon> Norfenstein, flash for chromium is provided by the package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[22:43] <kostkon> Norfenstein, oh 12.04?
[22:43] <kostkon> Norfenstein, then nvm
[22:44] <elite_> daftykins,  nobody helping there
[22:44] <daftykins> elite_: doesn't make here relevant
[22:44] <UltimaKR_> jradd: I wrote down that command and will try it when I get home...could you please tell me the next couple steps in case you aren't here when I get back?
[22:44] <jradd> UltimaKR_: yes
[22:45] <Norfenstein> there's no easy way to just revert to the last version of a package you had installed, is there?
[22:46] <jradd> UltimaKR: you will need to find the "start" column from the output of `fdisk -l`, it should have a column titled "Start" (should be something like "63"), then you multiply that value by "512" to get the appropriate offset we will call "$offset" for now.
[22:47] <jradd> so to mount the ntfs disk you would run the command:
[22:47] <Beldar> Norfenstein, You can with synaptic and freeze it to that version. Might just be an easy fix on the version you have however, like using the pepper flash...etc.
[22:48] <jradd> UltimaKR_: `sudo mount -t ntfs -o offset=$offset /dev/sdb /media/somedir
[22:49] <Beldar> Norfenstein, I just installed chromium from the ubnuntu repos and it is working with the adobe flash. Is you chromium from a ppa?
[22:49] <Beldar> your*
[22:49] <Norfenstein> it's from precise-updates
[22:49] <Norfenstein> flash is from precise
[22:50] <elite_> daftykins, your right, i phazed the question wrong
[22:50] <elite_> daftykins, please could someone use the sox application to generate a tone for me? becuase i do not have a sound card currently installed
[22:50] <trism> elite_: you can do it with audacity, Generate/Tone...
[22:51] <elite_> trism i know but i do not have a soundcard
[22:51] <Norfenstein> would uninstalling chromium and flash and reinstalling them have any chance of helping?
[22:51] <UltimaKR_> jradd: got it...thanks!
[22:51] <trism> elite_: I don't know what having a sound card has to do with it
[22:52] <SKYRAN> Hello all!
[22:52] <jradd> UltimaKR_: if you want to clone the disk first you can do it with dd, running something like `dd if=/dev/sdb of=/some/directory/diskclone.img`
[22:52] <kostkon> SKYRAN, hi!
[22:52] <rockyrock> I’m using a command that only accepts files as input: ‘qsub myscript.sh’. I need to execute the same command ‘qsub’ but with different myscript.sh contents. The modfications are just parameters modifications so I don’t want to create a file for each execution. How can I emulate this process without having to write a specific file?
[22:53] <kostkon> elite_, are you not able to run audacity?
[22:53] <SKYRAN> My ubuntu 14 has graphic problem with my vga. Nvidia 7300 gs
[22:53] <daftykins> rockyrock: perhaps bash's channel is more relevant to you
[22:53] <kostkon> details | SKYRAN
[22:53] <daftykins> SKYRAN: are you using an nvidia driver or the default nouveau?
[22:53] <kostkon> !details | SKYRAN
[22:53] <UltimaKR_> jradd: and where is that copying to?
[22:53] <TJ-> jradd: I don't think mount.ntfs supports the "offset" option, that is for the loop device
[22:55] <SKYRAN> daftykins: i'm not geek in Linux graphic but i think it use default driver!
[22:56] <kostkon> SKYRAN, what's the problem exactly
[22:56] <jradd> UltimaKR_: `mount -t ntfs-3g -o loop,offset=$offset /dev/sdb /media/somedir` perhaps. it will be tricky as shit though without the partition table. that is why I would clone the image using dd and try to mount that image. dd if=/source/device of=/some/dir/clone.img (the out file will go to whatever you send it to. if you send it to /home/user/ then it would go to whereever /home/user is , but likely /dev/sda2
[22:56] <jradd> or /dev/sda3)
[22:57] <zealotnagah> !details | SKYRAN
[22:57] <SKYRAN> The problem is only the cli is bootup and no gui run
[22:57] <Beldar> Norfenstein, YOu could go to .config.chromium and move it out or delete, this will remove everything and set it ti a stock install, so save if needed and or save any bookmarks if you delete.
[22:57] <daftykins> zealotnagah: don't do that.
[22:57] <Beldar> Norfenstein, ~/.config/chromium
[22:58] <PoolShark__> hi all... I'm having a problem with 14.04 desktop and vino... I enabled remote desktop access and can connect from a Windows box using TightVNC (or UltraVNC, or RealVNC, and many others), but for some reason it seems the server is ignoring HID input from the client. Is this a known thing or is there something I can do to easily fix it?
[22:58] <daftykins> SKYRAN: if you run the following commands in the terminal, you can confirm it "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:58] <jradd> UltimaKR_: if you cannot get it to work you can try mounting the image the same way, but instead of using /dev/sdb, you would point it to the .img file you created with dd. (this would then only mount the image, not the physical disk)
[22:58] <UltimaKR_> alright...hopefully the chat is saved if I don't close out the window...thank you!
[22:59] <jradd> UltimaKR_: I would also recommend (as somebody mentioned earlier) to run a check disk with windows (chkdsk /r) or (chkdsk /f) i think
[23:00] <jradd> and then see if the partition tables are detected.
[23:01] <TJ-> UltimaKR_: jradd  If the partition table appears to be missing, then "testdisk" can repair it, if anything can, if it can scan and find the file-systems
[23:02] <jradd> UltimaKR_: http://wiki.edseek.com/guide:mount_loopback
[23:02] <jradd> TJ: Ahh cool, I thought windows check disk was the best thing to use.
[23:03] <jradd> TJ: for an ntfs disk at least
[23:03] <TJ-> jradd: chkdisk will only check file-systems, and for that it needs a partition table to find them
[23:03] <UltimaKR_> jradd: do we know for sure that it is ntfs?
[23:04] <TJ-> jradd: testdisk is for disk recovery and can recreate a partition table that has been zapped, by searching the disk for file-system signatures
[23:04] <jradd> no it could be fat32 for all we know, i guess you could use windows to see what it says
[23:04] <UltimaKR_> use windows?  how if it cannot boot to windows?
[23:04] <jradd> UltimaKR_: you are taking notes on what TJ is saying right?
[23:05] <UltimaKR_> yes...thank you both I'm reading every word you both say :D
[23:05] <TJ-> UltimaKR_: connect the drive into another working Windows system, is what is meant
[23:05] <TJ-> UltimaKR_: I'm not aware of Windows not putting a partition table on a disk if it is a simple disk. If it is a Dynamic Disk then it could be anything
[23:06] <nonroot> Linux c720 3.13.0-34-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:45:27 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux trying to follow this guide can any one confirm that this will work for me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190187
[23:06] <UltimaKR_> but how would I do it? the only windows system available is one that uses sats and would have to connect by usb, which does not even recognize the drive in the first place
[23:06] <UltimaKR_> sata*
[23:06] <TJ-> UltimaKR_: What are you expecting to find on the disk?
[23:07] <UltimaKR_> TJ-: to be honest I have no idea...my friend did not specify lol
[23:07] <UltimaKR_> I would assume old pictures and programs and documents though
[23:07] <jradd> I would figure out how important this data is, because recovery can be time consuming and sometimes not work at all
[23:08] <TJ-> UltimaKR_: Because so far everything I hear is suggesting 2 possibilities: 1) the disk has errors and can no longer be read or 2) somehow sector 0 (containing the partition table) has been zapped, which suggests other data on the disk may also be gone
[23:08] <jradd> If it is not extremely important i would tell him to cut his losses. :)
[23:08] <TJ-> UltimaKR_: If (1) you will see disk error messages in "/var/log/kern.log"
[23:08] <UltimaKR_> that's my concern: she doesn't remember specifically what is on it so it's a crap shoot to begin with most likely
[23:09] <NotBanned> Does anyone know any Ubuntu versions that are DE-NSA'd?
[23:09] <NotBanned> I am looking for one
[23:09] <jradd> UltimaKR_: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Tools:Data_Recovery
[23:09] <TJ-> NotBanned: That is a silly phrase; please tell us what you really want
[23:10] <jradd> lol
[23:10] <NotBanned> TJ- I want a Ubuntu Kernel that isn't NSA filled because I grew up respecting privacy.
[23:10] <NotBanned> Tj- And I dont want NSA on my PC
[23:11] <UltimaKR_> Ok I will take a look at those two links and try all the commands you mentioned as soon as I get home but I will also call my friend to see if she has any idea what is so important on it
[23:11] <TJ-> NotBanned: That's pretty simple to do: "sudo find / -type f -execdir sed -i 's/NSA//g' {} \; "
[23:11] <LinuxPerson> Tj- No its not.
[23:11] <jradd> I am pretty sure the NSA has better things to do unless you are a significant threat or asset to the US
[23:12] <jradd> I sure hope so at least
[23:12] <LinuxPerson> jradd, I never done anything wrong not even got a ticket in my life.
[23:12] <LinuxPerson> I rather be kept out of this forever
[23:12] <TJ-> !ot | LinuxPerson
[23:12] <LinuxPerson> Tj- Thats why I am here.
[23:13] <homesickowl> umm i have a desktop file that i use to run a program, where can i put it so dash search can find it as an app ?
[23:14] <TJ-> homesickowl: I know for other purposes user desktop files go in "~/.local/share/applications/"
[23:14] <LinuxPerson> tj- how do I turn off SELinux forever.
[23:14] <davidsong> LinuxPerson: if you're super-paranoid about privacy and want to shield yourself from the NSA then I recommend linux from scratch
[23:14] <LinuxPerson> davidsong Perhaps Browser linux.
[23:14] <homesickowl> TJ-, thanks a ton!
[23:15] <davidsong> that'll be very slow
[23:15] <cynicallemon> davidsong: or unplug your internet router
[23:15] <LinuxPerson> I already use a VPN.
[23:15] <davidsong> cynicallemon: yeah I guess the hardware in your router is owned by either the americans or the chinese
[23:15] <LinuxPerson> I just dont want an ad of diapers if I am browsing youtube.
[23:16] <davidsong> ideally we should be working towards 3d-printed cpus, then we can create hardware that is audited
[23:16] <cynicallemon> davidsong: yep both of whom spy a lot on net users
[23:16] <davidsong> until that happens we have to accept that we're owned by the security services
[23:16] <sagredo> hi guys just installed 14.04 to a USB drive (seagate backup+), and after trying to boot I got  *error: invalid arch independent ELF magic* --> grub rescue>
[23:16] <LinuxPerson> davidsong Wh accept it?
[23:17] <LinuxPerson> *why
[23:17] <davidsong> LinuxPerson: because unless you own an electron microscope you can't audit the processors youve purchased
[23:17] <davidsong> so they're owned by default. voting doesn't change it
[23:17] <LinuxPerson> davidsong, why not make your own?
[23:17] <LinuxPerson> davidsong, it would be fun
[23:17] <davidsong> because you need a billion dollars to open a silicon fab
[23:18] <LinuxPerson> davidsong, not if your get a group of people.
[23:18] <TJ-> sagredo: That will usually occur because you didn't leave enough slack space before partition #1 on the USB device, so GRUB couldn't insert the core.img correctly
[23:18] <davidsong> so like I said, design 3d-printable CPUs and we can have freedom, but until then we're owned
[23:18] <LinuxPerson> davidsong, if I really tried I can probaly get 100k people paying $10,000.
[23:18] <sagredo> TJ-: I selected "erase and use entire disk" in installation
[23:19] <davidsong> LinuxPerson: you trust all 100,000 of them?
[23:19] <TJ-> !ot | davidsong LinuxPerson
[23:19] <sagredo> TJ-: what do you recommend? I'm on a USB stick now
[23:19] <davidsong> yeah good call this is off-topic
[23:19] <davidsong> sorry
[23:19] <jradd> lol
[23:19] <daftykins> davidsong + LinuxPerson this is indeed completely irrelevant talk for in here
[23:19] <LinuxPerson> davidsong, when the patriots fought off the British in 1776.
[23:19] <daftykins> move it to where it belongs please
[23:19] <LinuxPerson> davidsong, They had to trust each other
[23:19] <TJ-> sagredo: Can you show us the partition table ... "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin it please?
[23:20] <jradd> #mytinfoilhat lets go!
[23:20] <jradd> jk
[23:20] <davidsong> LinuxPerson: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:20] <davidsong> lol
[23:20] <LinuxPerson> gtg
[23:20] <jorge2> how do I remove and purge all ppas and third party repositories?
[23:20] <jradd> the repos themselves or the cache ?
[23:20] <sagredo> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/fRGKTghH
[23:21] <jradd> jorge2: all of your repos should be listed in /etc/apt/sources.list (+ sources.list.d/...)
[23:21] <TJ-> sagredo: sdb is where you installed Ubuntu to?
[23:22] <sagredo> TJ-: yes
[23:22] <jorge2> but how do I remove them and the packages I installed from them? jradd
[23:22] <sagredo> TJ-: would this solution apply to me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965810
[23:23] <TJ-> !bootinfo | sagredo: can you run the bootinfo script?
[23:23] <TheKi||erS> Buenas... alguien habla español?
[23:23] <Beldar> !es | TheKi||erS
[23:24] <TheKi||erS> *Beldar* Gracias
[23:24] <Beldar> TJ-, Oh my has hell frozen over the boot script. ;) you usually do th.is one command at a time
[23:24] <jradd> jorge2: somebody correct me if i am wrong, but I think if you remove the repos and then use `apt-get autoremove` that MIGHT do the trick ?
[23:25] <Beldar> very well I might add TJ-
[23:25] <TJ-> Beldar: LOL ... well, you should know I prefer precise data
[23:25] <ProfessorKaos64> What is the difference between apport and apport-gtk? If I remove gtk, will crashes still get recorded in the normal place in the filesystem?
[23:25] <Norfenstein> is there a place to download old binary versions of a package (not older as in and older release of ubuntu, just slightly less than current for a given release)?
[23:26] <TJ-> Beldar: I suspect a GPT partition table without an 0xEF02 bios-boot partition for GRUB's core image
[23:26] <Beldar> TJ-, Ah the yee old gpt remnants I assume.
[23:26] <TJ-> Beldar: although the fdisk output is valid, so if it is GPT it'd have to be using a Hybrid MBR
[23:27] <sagredo> TJ-: here you are http://pastebin.com/tEEsQ98E
[23:27] <Beldar> TJ-, cool, my favorite is the remnants.
[23:27] <jradd> jorge2: Using aptitude to look for installed packages outside of the stable branch: `aptitude search "?narrow(?installed,?not(?archive(stable)))"`
[23:29] <TJ-> sagredo: line 411 onwards suggest some kind of disk corruption; there are no files listed from the /boot/grub/ directory
[23:29] <TJ-> sagredo: and some unusual errors follow
[23:29] <sagredo> TJ-: I just pulled this drive out of the box
[23:29] <sagredo> sealed brand new
[23:29] <Izaya> Is anyone familiar with installing CA Certs?
[23:30] <Beldar> Izaya, You want to state the actual issue for help.
[23:30] <TJ-> sagredo: OK... so during installation grub-install totally failed to write the grub modules into /boot/grub/i386-pc/
[23:30] <Izaya> Beldar: that is the issue, but here's a picture to help me be concise:
[23:30] <Izaya> http://imgur.com/f6bdInj
[23:30] <OerHeks> Izaya, i love this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html
[23:31] <sagredo> TJ-: this machine is 64 bit
[23:31] <Izaya> thanks OerHeks, I'll give it a read.
[23:31] <Beldar> Izaya, heh, not to me however, I'm clueless there.
[23:31] <Izaya> at a quick glance OerHeks, do you think it'll solve my problem? http://imgur.com/f6bdInj
[23:32] <Izaya> @ OerHeks, the image itself is a picture from a program my school has you run to setup access to the Secure WiFi'
[23:32] <OerHeks> Izaya, did you copy the .crt and run sudo update-ca-certificates ?
[23:32] <OerHeks> quick guide http://brightbox.com/blog/2014/03/04/add-cacert-ubuntu-debian/
[23:32] <Izaya> @ OerHeks, pulling open my laptop now give me a moment to boot up
[23:32] <jradd> Izaya: it sounds like you need to install the public cert from UofNM
[23:33] <Izaya> jradd: probably true. The Tech Assistant was totally clueless about Linux (namely, about Ubuntu) so
[23:33] <Izaya> jradd, it's now a matter of figuring out how to do that.
[23:33] <TJ-> sagredo: maybe Beldar can continue... it's gone midnight here and one of my Huskies has run off round the farm someplace, so got to go find her
[23:34] <Beldar> OerHeks, seems closer Izaya
[23:34] <Izaya> @ OerHeks, that second guide on Brightbox seems pretty straightforward.
[23:34] <sagredo> TJ-: understandable :)
[23:34] <sagredo> TJ-: cheers
[23:35] <sagredo> Beldar: trying to troubleshoot a 14.04 installation onto a USB drive
[23:35] <Beldar> sagredo, Did you have to make a partition table?
[23:35] <sagredo> Beldar: I let the installer handle all of that auto
[23:36] <Beldar> sagredo, The usb the sda? or is sdb a external?
[23:36] <jradd> Izaya: it looks like that guide should be what you need.
[23:36] <sagredo> fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/fRGKTghH      bootinfoscript: http://pastebin.com/tEEsQ98E
[23:37] <Beldar> sagredo, So fresh install right?
[23:37] <Izaya> jradd, I agree. Thank you OerHeks!
[23:37] <sagredo> Beldar: right
[23:37] <OerHeks> Izaya, have fun
[23:37] <sagredo> Beldar: would be happy to reinstall if it's not something simple
[23:38] <Izaya> Thanks OerHeks, now to try it out when I start up school on Sept. 2nd
[23:38] <Beldar> sagredo, If it were me since we see errors I would wipe it make a msdos table and install again.
[23:38] <sagredo> msdos? o.O
[23:38] <Beldar> sagredo, Much faster and should work on a new HD.
[23:38] <Izaya> perhaps you all can assist with another issue I ran into today. Let me upload the image
[23:39] <sagredo> Beldar: are you serious?
[23:39] <Beldar> sagredo, Gparted defaults to a msdos partition table.
[23:39] <jradd> Izaya: you can also look in your wireless utility and edit the wireless connection. change security to WPA2 Enterprise, Auth: PEAP, and then select the cert with 'browse' (if needed), and select MSCHAPv2 (probably) for inner auth (if needed)
[23:39] <Beldar> sagredo, You installed and it never booted and errors right?
[23:39] <Izaya> jradd, Thanks. At this moment in time all of that is greek to me, but if I run into the problem again I'm certain I'll be back ;)
[23:40] <sagredo> Beldar: yes
[23:40] <sagredo> ok Beldar
[23:40] <sagredo> im in gparted in installation
[23:40] <sagredo> what do you suggest?
[23:40] <evil_dan2wik> I think I have a virus on my ubuntu
[23:41] <Beldar> sagredo, Seems like a fix is a bad idea it is brand new, at least to me anyway. I would make a new partition table and install twenty minutes work.
[23:41] <evil_dan2wik> google.com.au takes me to a random website covered in ads
[23:41] <JordanJ2> Hi all. Ubuntu (14.04) keeps throwing this error when I start it up: https://imgur.com/ospcHgV
[23:41] <evil_dan2wik> and youtube.com comes up without any formatting.
[23:41] <OerHeks> sagredo does this used to be an XP machine?
[23:41] <sagredo> OerHeks: no
[23:41] <jradd> evil_dan2wik: if you are connected thru a router I would FIRST power that thing OFF for a few seconds and then back ON
[23:41] <cynicallemon> evil_dan2wik: thats a browser hijack
[23:41] <sagredo> OerHeks: vista
[23:42] <sagredo> OerHeks: but that drive is not even connected
[23:42] <yami> I run ubuntu on my lenovo x201 tablet pc, I get a strange bug when i come back from sleep mode:  the wacom tablet and touch screen stop working
[23:42] <Beldar> evil_dan2wik, Unlikely a virus, make a new FF account
[23:42] <yami> when i got in settings, in the "Wacom tablet" section  it says "no tablet detected"
[23:42] <Beldar> !av | evil_dan2wik
[23:42] <sagredo> Beldar:
[23:42] <reisio> yami: they show up in xinput --list ?
[23:42] <sagredo> i don't see msdos
[23:43] <Beldar> sagredo, Yes.
[23:43] <sagredo> Beldar: ...
[23:43] <evil_dan2wik> Beldar, what is a FF account?
[23:43] <yami> reisio: no, i dont see the wacom devices in xinput --list
[23:43] <cynicallemon> evil_dan2wik: stop visiting those girly sites
[23:44] <sagredo> Beldar: ext 3, ext 4, xfs
[23:44] <reisio> yami: what about the touch screen?
[23:44] <evil_dan2wik> cynicallemon, I don't.
[23:44] <Beldar> sagredo, in gparted device-create partition table has to be unmounted it will ask if you want msdos click yes.
[23:44] <evil_dan2wik> I use this computer all for work
[23:44] <yami> reisio: no touch screen neither :(
[23:44] <jradd> evil_dan2wik: are you the only user?
[23:45] <Beldar> evil_dan2wik, What browser?
[23:45] <yami> reisio: when i restart my laptop, the wacom device works
[23:45] <yami> reisio: however, I would prefer to find a better workaround
[23:46] <sagredo> Beldar: so you suggest I use gparted before I start the installation script?
[23:46] <Beldar> sagredo, Yes a new partition table in gparted than install
[23:47] <Beldar> sagredo, Not actual partitions but a table.
[23:47] <Beldar> sagredo, Is this confusing?
[23:48] <sagredo> Beldar: no i have done it
[23:48] <sagredo> Beldar: now do you suggest I let the installer auto format everything?
[23:48] <Beldar> evil_dan2wik, All browsers allow a new user account, this takes it back to stock and saves your bookmarks.
[23:50] <sagredo> Beldar: erase disk and install Ubuntu or 'Something Else'?
[23:50] <sagredo> 'Use LVM'?
[23:50] <Pinkamena_D> A question which has bugged me for forever: why do you need to madly wiggle the mouse to select a large amount of text in text editors, for example gedit?
[23:50] <Beldar> sagredo, Have you opened gpated and follwed my instructions on making a new table first?
[23:50] <Beldar> gparted*
[23:51] <Pinkamena_D> if I start selecting and move the mouse to the bottom of the screen the selecting will stop and I have to "wiggle" the moust back and fourth to keep selecting more
[23:51] <Pinkamena_D> very annoying and this occurrs in most operating systems
[23:51] <Guest86729> /q/quit
[23:52] <yami> reisio: I saw on askubuntu.com someone having the same issue, someone proposed to try "sudo rmmod wacom; sudo modprobe wacom" but it has no effect for me
[23:52] <OerHeks> Pinkamena_D,  hold the slection and hit pagedown to select more
[23:52] <Beldar> sagredo, Just making sure we are on the same page, it seems you made a table in gparted just confirming, if not close everything, unmount sdb in gparted and make one.
[23:52] <yami> reisio: i assume it should reload the wacom module, but kit has no effect
[23:53] <sagredo> yes
[23:53] <sagredo> the new msdos table is made
[23:53] <sagredo> the entire drive is unallocated
[23:53] <Beldar> sagredo, Cool I would just let it install to the whole disk.
[23:53] <sagredo> i'm now at "installation type"
[23:53] <sagredo> ok
[23:53] <sagredo> use LVM?
[23:54] <Beldar> sagredo, I have never used it so that is your choice I know nothing about it.
[23:54] <sagredo> ok
[23:54] <yami> reisio: well, i'll simply reboot, i guess it cant be helped
[23:54] <sagredo> i'll leave it unchecked
[23:55] <Beldar> sagredo, What is the HD model and manufacturer?
[23:56] <Beldar> just curious
[23:59] <sagredo> Beldar: seagate stbu500100
[23:59] <Izaya> @ OerHeks, not sure if It's because I'm not on the network at school, but the issue seems to persist when I attempt to setup the wifi access. Same errors.
[23:59] <Izaya> I'm sure I"ll probably need to talk to the school about it.