[00:16] Hello I run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS [00:16] I just installed the program Pale Moon Browser, I know its not supposed to show up, but I remember I can set a launcher for it. [00:16] How can I set that up? [00:25] nvm === usTrUcX_ is now known as usTrUcX [01:53] trusty 14.04.1: How to disable login name list? [01:56] Yep, Debian does it by default. [06:52] hey guys, i need help, when i install linux, i got [06:52] invalid partition table [06:52] how i can fix this problem?: [07:11] hey, someone can help me? [08:03] xubuntu167, ask in #ubuntu === byte^bnc is now known as byte [08:39] hey guys, i got a short question for the community: is it possible to fully encrypt an existing xubuntu-installation afterwards? data is already written on the harddisk, i want to encypt "on-the-fly". [08:41] !encryption [08:41] For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory === Svetlana__ is now known as Svetlana [09:42] Should I install Shutter from the Ubuntu Software Center or get a more up-to-date version using the command line? [09:42] Guest40771, same version [09:42] awesome [10:32] help [10:33] !help | xubuntu655, [10:33] xubuntu655,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:35] hey everyone. someone's on here? [10:35] !help [10:35] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:36] !patience [10:36] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [10:36] i know... -_- [10:37] i have a problem to mount fat32 filesystems with red-write permissions. [10:37] #read-write [10:37] what's the error? [10:38] i put in my usb stick. it is mounted. but i cannot put files on it. [10:39] can you open a terminal and see what 'dmesg' says? [10:39] (use a pastebin to show the text to us) [10:39] yust a moment. [10:41] i need a few seconds to run pastebin because of my slow connection. but this is odd: [10:41] [ 2057.839109] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. [10:45] http://pastebin.com/rFyetCF0 [10:53] no idea? [10:54] came in late. will you repeat the question please? [10:55] of course. [10:55] i put in my usb stick. it is mounted. but i cannot put files on it. dmesg-> http://pastebin.com/rFyetCF0 [10:57] the problem is at the end of the paste. [10:57] kurono__: other than it not being properly unmounted I see nothing [10:57] kurono__: but that shouldn't matter [10:58] kurono__: can you also pastebin the result of runing 'mount' command? [10:58] have you tried unmounting the USB before removing? [10:58] yes, just a few minutes. my internet is slow. ;-) [10:59] obriendave, no but i can try! [10:59] usually safer that way [11:00] !paste [11:00] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:00] we have a faster pastebin there ^^ [11:00] hahaha... sorry. i didnt know that [11:01] I oculd have linked it in the beginning, sorry [11:01] you can also use pastebinit in a command, like; mount | pastebinit [11:02] then post the URL it gives you [11:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8061941/ [11:02] thank you so much! [11:03] hmm, it's mounted rw [11:04] huh? to unmount it i had to put in my root passw. [11:04] ah, it probably gets mounted as root user [11:04] that's why you don't have write access [11:05] weird [11:05] kurono__: did you change anything in your /etc/fstab maybe? [11:05] the problem is only there with fat32 [11:05] gotta run, sorry [11:05] no, deshipu. [11:06] now it works fine.... ???huh??? [11:06] that was the problem? unmounting it from hand? [11:07] somehow, i don't know how, it mounted as root [11:07] yes, it seems so. pretty strange [11:08] oh no. again. it didnt work. [11:08] it is mounted twice. [11:08] hmm, once as you and once as root [11:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8061981/ [11:10] try: lsusb | pastebinit [11:10] could it be, that there is a problem in fstab? [11:11] yep, just a second. [11:11] could be, i know nothing about fstab [11:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8061996/ [11:12] and: lsblk | pastebinit [11:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062019/ [11:13] fstab would likely be nothing to do with this, you have the problem - it's been unsafely unmounted, it tells you to run fsck [11:14] cool. i dindt knew this command before. [11:14] okay, elfy... but i dont know how to use this tool. [11:15] man fsck [11:15] i must give it a try huh? [11:17] it is a little bit odd, because of the stick is working fine in my linuxmint pc. [11:17] and even my old laptop with antix mx14 is working with it. [11:19] kurono__: now or before? [11:19] elfy, now. [11:19] mmm [11:19] and in win7 it is not a problem too. [11:20] what version of xubuntu are you running? [11:21] 14.04 LTS [11:22] has that USB ever worked with this version? [11:27] sorry [11:28] zequence, can i get a URL for your testing tracker? [11:28] yes, it worked after the installation. [11:28] have you run fsck yet? [11:29] no. i must red the man i a quiet hour. [11:29] #read [11:29] ok [11:32] can i log in the session as root? [11:34] sudo is safer and recommended [11:35] !root | kurono_ [11:35] kurono_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [11:35] kurono_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147228/how-to-repair-a-corrupted-fat32-file-system [11:36] i mean to open a folder as root like in mint. [11:37] the filesystem is not corrupted. i have created it with gparted in xubuntu. :-) [11:38] Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. [11:40] i see... sometimes a fresh install is the easier way to solve problems. [11:46] my way: gparted -> delete partition -> new fat32 partition -> apply -> mount the new fs -> i can put files on it -> unmount -> stick out -> stick in -> same problem. [11:51] if i start thunar via console: sudo thunar (passw) everything is fine. [12:01] still another unsolved problem... -_- [12:45] where get the shell interface for Berkeley Database (libdb) [12:49] or tutorial (not C programming libdb) === caffeine is now known as Guest11946 [14:56] Do I need to install flash to watch videos when using Xubuntu, or is there an alternative? [14:57] I asked because I heard flash is not secure [14:57] !flash [14:57] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [15:01] if it is a flash only video, you have to [15:01] if not, you don't need [15:02] almost all the populear video sites support flash-less video now [15:02] NixiePixel [15:02] Just firefox or chromium will do [15:03] I know flash is not safe for Windows, but I have no idea if it's safe to use with ubuntu [15:03] no will never be safe! [15:03] flash [15:03] its closed source code that runs on your cpu [15:04] you can't know what it does [15:05] patates, are you saying it's still unsafe to use flash with ubuntu? [15:05] hy everybody [15:05] I have a problem with updaes [15:06] NixiePixel: it is definitely unsafe! But we can't put it into malware list yet. I mean as far as I know adobe provides updates but.. [15:06] there is not enough space on \boot but I do not know how to increase its size; I have plenty of space on disk [15:07] Can I replace Adobe flash with something like html 5? [15:07] NixiePixel: you are trusting adobe with this.. so I'd prefer html5, yes [15:08] xubuntu147 how big is your boot partition? [15:09] 246,8 Mb [15:09] check with #ubuntu channel too, but I think it should be enough [15:10] oh wait.. I thought it was android.. [15:10] 49.8 Mb free, 60 Mb required for updates [15:11] gparted might help to resize, but I don't know if it can do harm.. I'd check with others too [15:13] which tools? I am quite "new" with ubuntu :-) [15:14] open up a terminal, type sudo gparted, [15:14] or type gparted into your search bar. if not installed [15:15] install with "sudo apt-get install gparted" type into terminal [15:16] I have to warn again, if you don't have enough experience, you might kill your system. [15:16] and I don't know if it is safe to resize /boot [15:18] OK; thanks for suggestions.... === WLM|weg is now known as WLM [16:05] how to reset desktop panel [16:06] arazeez: i would try http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [16:09] anybody know gpg gui for xubuntu [16:10] gpa works good? [16:10] or seahorse? [16:11] patates: https://www.gnupg.org/related_software/frontends.html [16:14] thanks baizon [16:18] hi i am trying to install compiz in a fresh upgrade [16:19] ahklerner1: for what purpose? its been quite configured for unity these days.. [16:19] i just like the effects [16:19] ahklerner1: i suggest trying other more "Friendly" options.. depending on what you need [16:20] otherwise, its going to be problematic, at best, to hack it into xfce.. [16:20] i thought i had used it on a previous release withoutmuch hassle ? [16:21] ahklerner1: sure.. previously, it was not so integrated into unity for main ubuntu [16:21] i see [16:21] ahklerner1: i mean, you are here becuase you are experiencing a hassle, correct? i would suggest just trying what you did before, and expect issues [16:22] ahklerner1: i might try it with a live CD, assuming i have 3d graphics support with the live CD [16:22] ahklerner1: i played around in 12.04 and got it working.. i didnt consider it worth the effort.. and having tried since [16:22] honestly it was probably 4 years since i last used compiz or installed it, i have no idea what i did to make it work [16:23] its not a big deal [16:23] the built in effects work well.. try those first, i say [16:23] Hi there. === WLM is now known as WLM|weg [16:24] Hope someone is here. WHat is the easiest way to get windows 8.1 prompt from grub? The problem is that after installing xubuntu to separate partition xubuntu ditched windows 8.1 completeley from grub? [16:24] one issue that does hassle me though is when i just shut the lid it hibernates fine, and when i reopen it comes to the login. but after i login the screen goes blank [16:25] ahklerner1: i would start by applying upgrades.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and restart if there is a kernel upgrade, and test [16:25] ahklerner1: then, i would look into the graphics driver support of the OS.. see if there are proprietary drivers.. [16:25] it seems to have the display connected to the keboard and mouse but there is no video on the physical screen [16:25] ahklerner1: i might install ssh, or try tty to see if i can look at what is going on [16:26] assuming upgrads dont just "fix" that [16:26] upgrades* [16:26] i did the upgrade last night [16:26] from 13 to 14 [16:26] frojnd: well, windows was never in grub.. so, it was never ditched [16:26] i will check again [16:26] holstein: true that. Is there a way to add it - the newbie way? [16:27] I know the partition name windows is installed but that's all [16:27] frojnd: you had windows installed? then, installed linux, correct? then the boot loader for windows gets overwritten, as you asked, with grub, which sees linux? but doesnt present windows? correct? [16:27] holstein: yes yes yes [16:27] frojnd: what i would do is simply boot into ubuntu, and run "sudo update-grub" and see if windows is magically "picked up" and presented with linux [16:28] ok [16:28] then, i would go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ..then, from there, i would look at the bios, or other things about windows that would be preventing it from allowing grub to "see" it [16:28] safe or smart boot or whatever.. uefi [16:28] i ran the update and dist-upgrade commands nothing was found to upgrade [16:29] holstein: the grub said it found windows 8 [16:29] let me check bios yeah... for that "smart or safe" under security.. [16:29] thank you holstein [16:29] ahklerner1: ok.. then, above, what i have suggested for *after* you do that is, to look into the graphics drive.. have you? do you have a proprietary driver option? [16:31] holstein: oh man.. windows 8 was not even completely shut down :| [16:31] holstein: grrr [16:31] sorry i missed where you said that [16:31] i will check that [16:32] it just seems weird because it will sucessfully wake up and then i have to move the mouse to get the login to show which it does, then after i login the screen goes black again [16:33] i can move the mouse to the upper right corner where the power button is, click it and press enter (without being able to see on the physical screen) and the laptop shuts down [16:33] ahklerner1: sure.. its actually not all that "weird".. its just challenging.. a team of professionals tested all of that and made sure it worked properly in windows.. you were not promised by the manufacturer that suspend would work in linux, so, you basically take on the responsibility yourself [16:34] ahklerner1: i would start with graphics driver testing.. [16:35] on my 'software & updates' ubuntu software tab, main, univarse, restricted, and multiverse are all checked [16:36] oh now it is searching for available drivers [16:36] in the 'additional drivers' tab [16:36] no additional drivers available [16:37] ahklerner1: sure. so, what would i do? i might force the vesa driver temporarily to see if its driver related.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 [16:38] i might try a live CD or other versions, 12.04 for example, and see if an older or newer kernel magically works [16:38] it worked fine on 12.04, then after the upgrade to 13, but now after upgrade to 14 it does like i describe [16:39] i might search "ubuntu computer model" and see if others report the issue, and if they have fixed it, and how.. i might try nomodeset from a live CD and other options [16:39] !nomodeset [16:39] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [16:39] ahklerner1: i would try a fresh 14.04 live CD then.. just to alleviate my concern about upgrades [16:41] its also easy to just try a different user.. to remove the curent user config from the equation [16:42] i just changed the power manager settings from 'Lock Screen' to suspend and now it does not require login but it doesnt get stuck black either [16:43] i would try the user account then.. see if its just a config file from the upgrades [16:43] i will try to chenge the setting back and see if it fixes itself maybe [16:45] well that did not work, so i will add a different user accout and see if the issue is still there [16:45] that is what you mean correct ? [16:46] ahklerner1: in your user's /home, there are config files.. im suggesting you remove them from the equation, since many of them were likely created years ago, if you have been upgrading that box for years.. [16:47] one easy way to to that is by making another account.. you can try with the guest account, or from a 14.04 live CD, which i would have used prior to installation or upgrade, to make sure my hardware supports 14.04 [16:52] it does the same when suspending with a new user account [16:52] i should say when set to 'lock screen' [16:53] so, what would i do? i would just untick whatever is causing the issue, and enjoy the system.. but, i personally would prefer testing with a 14.04 live CD and doing a fresh install [16:53] if the locker is causing the issue in your system, i would just not use it, but, i use a different locker anyways.. so that wouldnt be a deal breaker [16:54] i will look for a different locker and see if the issue persists [16:57] Hello [16:58] hello [16:58] Im having kernel panic problems when trying to boot my xubuntu installation in a old laptop, I did my researches through the internet but couldnt fix the problem yet. Any idea? x"D [16:59] xku: i would try other kernels.. with live CD's.. thats easy enough. i also wouldnt assume the issue is with the kernel, but, i would test the hardware as well.. if you have bad/failing hardware, you wont be able to "fix" that with linux [17:00] it is not a kernel issue but a init / boot problem I think [17:00] if its an "old laptop", it could be any failing component.. otherwise, i would try live CD's and see if a kernel works, and make notes of what modules are in use.. and try removing variables.. [17:00] yeah I checked that kernel works in a live environment [17:00] xku: sure. and the issue is right there in your sentence.. "i think" [17:00] xku: you need to be sure.. and it *is* old hardware.. [17:01] xku: if the kernel works in the live environment, then, i would look at the difference in the live environment vs the installed one.. the hard drive is a large factor there [17:02] I think it is about a restriction which occurred when removing NTFS Boot partition [17:02] dont assume the kernel is the same, check that when you installed, you didnt install updates, which would give you a newer kernel.. [17:02] make sure you have the same kernel from the live environment in your installed instance [17:02] Im sure it is the same kernel [17:02] no updates [17:02] xku: sure.. again, just address the word" think" in your sentence.. linux doenst require an ntfs boot partition.. but, if the hardware does, then you'll need to address that [17:03] xku: if the live kernel works, then the installed kernel should, if its the same kernel [17:04] Any suggestion about how to use a /boot partition to fix it instead of having to install a windows just to be able to boot xubuntu? [17:04] xku: sure.. test the hard drive, then, look in the bios.. dont assume this is a kernel issue [17:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1303736 [17:04] I tried to use testdisk to check if the boot section was OK but I didnt find anything wrong, also the bios has not any "Secure boot" feature [17:04] Launchpad bug 1303736 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [High,Fix released] [17:04] xku: to me, it looks more likely that the hard drive would be failing in your scenario than anything else [17:05] xku: i would use a test that kwould take a few hours [17:05] xku: xubuntu doesnt require any ntfs partitions to boot [17:05] xubuntu/ubuntu [17:05] yep [17:05] i would test the drive, wipe the drive, test the live CD, then, fresh install.. [17:06] okay, thank you man [17:06] holstien does the link above say that the fix is included in the most recent public release or do i need to do something in order to get the fix [17:06] !tab [17:06] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [17:08] ahklerner1: looks like they are still working on it [17:09] ok thank you [17:09] ahklerner1: i likely didnt notice since i use another locker [17:09] ahklerner1: at least, it seems that is the issue.. i agree it looks like it is [17:10] it does appear to be anyway [17:10] also, its its just effecting upgrades, i never do upgrades [17:10] like when the screen is blank i can press ctrl alt F6 and get a prompt [17:10] F7 is blank [17:10] i'll do them, and test, and report that it works, and fresh install afterwards [17:11] F8 has just a cursor [17:11] i would just keep up with the bug reports.. [17:12] what alternate locker do you use? [17:12] !info xtrlock [17:12] xtrlock (source: xtrlock): Minimal X display lock program. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6 (trusty), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB [17:13] cool i will give it a try [17:13] its quite different, but i prefer the funcitonality === WLM|weg is now known as WLM [18:33] holstein: I've just disabled lightlocker altogether. No more alternate display stuff to bother my vnc session with [18:42] Lightlocker is such a pita. [18:46] hello guys [18:48] is it possible to order items on Indicator Plugin ? [18:52] m3n3chm0: no I think not. [18:52] ok, thanks [18:52] m3n3chm0: ok I was reacting too fast [18:53] m3n3chm0: it is possible, rightclick on it → settings. there are arrows which you can arrange the items with. sorry for my earlier post. [18:54] but if i can order or move one icon for example the weather icon i can't [18:56] indrora: I suppose it's effective for what it's intended to be used for [18:57] I was referring this [18:57] http://i62.tinypic.com/2cwqyki.png [18:57] for example If i want to move flux icon or just weather icon i cant [18:58] i guess this indicator plugin load and order the apps in order them are opening in the system [19:01] m3n3chm0: isn't the weather indicator a separate plugin to the panel? therefore you should be able to move it by rightclicking it, and selecting "move" [19:02] no [19:03] if i move that or bluetooth flux and wifi [19:03] all are moved in block [19:03] it's like if all icons are integrated in one .. [19:03] ah I see [19:04] m3n3chm0: it seems the networking symbol, weather and the indicators of applications are treated en block [19:04] so it seems I was right after all, you indeed cannot move them separately. [19:05] GeekDude, not really, since it causes X to crash one of my machines when it sleeps [19:05] yes [19:06] that's it [19:06] indrora: O_o [19:06] but no problem [19:07] GeekDude, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1303736 this bug affects me [19:07] Launchpad bug 1303736 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [High,Fix released] [19:07] apparently [21:00] Hello. [21:00] I am still having issues with my Panasonic CF-29's screen staying black after reopening the laptop lid. [21:07] Why does xubuntu come with xchat rather than hexchat? [21:08] LazyUser69: you can read up on that here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-July/010282.html [21:09] and here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-August/010354.html [21:10] Thanks ochosi, I'm in a google bubble or something and I can't find anything nowadays... [21:11] ochosi: Do you know what causes a laptop screen to stay black, when you reopen the lid? [21:13] Travis: no, i haven't been able to reproduce that anymore [21:13] but there are many possible reasons, X11, graphics driver... [21:32] Crap, wish I could fix it :( [21:36] travis what version of xubuntu you using? [21:37] i see that all the time [21:42] oops, sorry for ignoring you. === S-USA is now known as SonikkuAmerica [21:42] I am on 14.04.1 on a Panasonic CF-29 [21:42] I removed Light Locker. === LazyUser69 is now known as LazyUserBNC === LazyUserBNC is now known as LazyUser69 [21:44] ok you didnt have to do that, in fact I would reinstall that so ... its a combo of things .... install light locker and leave it on. disable he section that says "Switch off display" [21:44] pn light locker, [21:44] then [21:45] under power manager make sure you dont put it to sleep. set it to never [21:45] and lastly [21:46] edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf [21:46] and add or enable [21:46] HandleLidSwitch=ignore [21:46] reboot [21:46] I've done that afew times, works like a charm [21:46] Do I need the hash symbol next to it. [21:46] no [21:47] the has symbol will disable that [21:47] ok, that is where I went wrong :p [21:47] lol [21:47] thats called a comment, when devs what to leave you instructions without effecting the code the put a hash mark [21:48] or if they want to disable a feature [21:48] So, just add that to the end of the list of stuff? [21:48] yup [21:48] simple as that [21:48] I am going to try it without light locker first. [21:49] Screw it. Am going to install it anyway. [21:49] ok [21:49] What can it hurt? Nothing. [21:50] right [21:50] i had to do all that for my wifes laptop and my mini one too [21:51] hello guys, i'm using plank and Jdownloader is duplicated [21:51] I like Xubuntu, as it's most like Windows, in the way it's visually laid out. [21:56] Dragon64: That did nothing. [21:56] The screen is still black. [21:56] did you follow all the other steps [21:56] Yes, including reinstalling lightlocker. [21:56] power manager [21:56] hmmm [21:56] one sec [21:56] I am going to find out what kind of video card is in this thing. [21:57] good idea [21:57] lspci [21:59] Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express [21:59] are there updates for that in software center [22:00] Nope. [22:00] There's a thing to find additional drivers. [22:00] yup [22:00] says there aren't any :( [22:00] that may be fine [22:01] when the laptop is black, how do you get the screen back? [22:01] Reboot [22:01] hmmm [22:01] one sec [22:02] this may sound strange, but have you tried the screen brightness button most laptops have? [22:02] there was a bug for a while that dimmed the screen all the time [22:02] everything worked, it was just black [22:03] Wait one, please. [22:03] k [22:03] Nothing. The power light stays dim. It usually goes bright when it turns back on. [22:03] huh thats odd [22:04] yeah looks like its hibernating or suspending [22:04] I have that shut off. [22:04] if you give the power button a quick push and wait 30 secs does it come back? [22:05] no [22:06] i got it, just replace in StartupWMClass = jdmain [22:06] and works :) [22:06] Travis: dont know then ... this page has a buch of triks I have seen used successfully in the past [22:06] https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/display [22:06] other than that not sure [22:07] It's all ok. If I leave it open, it's ok. [22:07] I just get a laugh, as I have BSOD as my screens aver. [22:07] ok then [22:07] haha [22:08] I used to do that and scared myself wit it one time [22:08] I only use the Windows ones, as I know that laptop doesn't have Windows on it. [22:48] Dragon64: I have a copy of a live version of what's called CHIRP (amateur radio software to program radios). It uses Ubuntu 12.04 to run the live CD. [22:48] I don't have the laptop lid problem with it. [22:49] huh [22:49] thats interesting [22:49] Has to be a difference in a driver. [22:49]