[03:33] <laanan> hello, looking for help.
[03:33] <laanan> I am running lubuntu on an acer aspire one netbook with a 1.7gh processor (neo II)
[03:34] <laanan> oh, lubuntu installed under 20GB with wubi
[03:34] <laanan> I am having problems with crashing
[03:34] <laanan> especially when playing flash videos (e.g. on youtube).
[03:34] <laanan> It also seems to have crashed when pretty much idle (I had a buffered youtube vid and several tabs open)
[03:35] <laanan> by crashing, I mean the netbook just completely shuts off, as if I unplugged it without a battery inside
[03:35] <laanan> this behavior does not happen under win7 (the main OS installed)
[03:36] <laanan> I installed TLP...
[03:36] <laanan> but no change in behavior
[03:36] <laanan> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[04:55] <Kassadin> Hi there...can anyone help me with a slave idea hard drive? it is not recognized by the computer even though it powers on, and running fdisk implies that it has no partition at all (something like no value partition table appears)
[05:55] <laanan-> anyone active?
[09:32] <Antoto> Hello, is it ok to ask questions here? It`s my first time on IRC
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[16:31] <TimeVirus> hell all
[16:31] <TimeVirus> hello*
[16:32] <TimeVirus> I'm getting ready to install Lubuntu on this machine and it has a BCM4311 wifi card. How would I install the firmware for it? apt-get or is there a gui package manager? or...?
[16:35] <phillw> TimeVirus: have it plugged into ethernet and after installation select Preferences --> Additional Drivers, it will grab the WiFi driver for you.
[16:36] <TimeVirus> great
[16:36] <TimeVirus> thanks
[16:36] <TimeVirus> i'm off to gitter done
[19:05] <Penguination_> nick cbathurs
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[20:28] <TimeVirus> hello
[20:29] <holstein> TimeVirus: o/
[20:29] <TimeVirus> I installed Lubuntu to my 500GB HDD and it's not booting from there -- The Bios is set to look at USB first
[20:30] <TimeVirus> external HDD
[20:30] <holstein> TimeVirus: cool.. just address your bios settings then
[20:30] <TimeVirus> BIOS is set to look at USB first already
[20:30] <holstein> TimeVirus: but, "first usb" is not "500gb hdd"
[20:31] <TimeVirus> huh ? lol
[20:31] <holstein> unless is is, in which case, you need to explain
[20:31] <holstein> TimeVirus: regardless, i find machines dont like to boot usb sometimes, and i might use plop to make sure the machine will boot the USB device
[20:31] <TimeVirus> when the boot failed I am now on the installation flash
[20:31] <holstein> you can make a plop iso to boot from cd
[20:32] <TimeVirus> no cd drive
[20:32] <TimeVirus> busted
[20:32] <holstein> TimeVirus: sure.. but, the "installation flash" is a USB.. so, whats the difference?
[20:32] <holstein> TimeVirus: tht difference in the "installation flash usb" and "500gb external USB" will be your problem
[20:32] <TimeVirus> the difference is that it doesnt save updates is VERY limited in size and and and
[20:33] <holstein> TimeVirus: thats not what im saying friend
[20:33] <TimeVirus> ok
[20:33] <holstein> TimeVirus: im saying, the installation USB booted from your bios.. so, why didnt the other USB?
[20:33] <holstein> thats your problem.. whatever that is
[20:33] <TimeVirus> well
[20:33] <holstein> i would start with troubleshooting grub.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair making sure that grub is actually installed on the drive
[20:33] <TimeVirus> what IS the difference wheather it be a spinning hdd or flash?
[20:34] <TimeVirus> ok grub shoot
[20:34] <holstein> TimeVirus: its no difference to me, but, is it to your machine's bios?
[20:34] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:34] <TimeVirus> o\
[20:34] <holstein> TimeVirus: another "easy" test would be to take the drive to another machine and test
[20:34] <holstein> if it works there, then, the issue is with the machine not booting the hardware.. so, you can stop trying to "fix" it in lubuntu
[20:35] <TimeVirus> would I go to the BIOS maker to post a question about this usb flash boot but not usb hdd boot?
[20:35] <TimeVirus> makes me no sense
[20:36] <holstein> TimeVirus: does the hard drive boot on another machine?
[20:36] <TimeVirus> meh
[20:36] <TimeVirus> didnt try
[20:36] <TimeVirus> makes no sense!
[20:36] <holstein> TimeVirus: it could be the hard drive is bad, or failling. they *all* do
[20:36] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:36] <holstein> TimeVirus: ?
[20:36] <TimeVirus> no way
[20:36] <TimeVirus> bran new wd black
[20:36] <holstein> TimeVirus: yes.. they *all* fail
[20:36] <TimeVirus> brand new wd black
[20:36] <TimeVirus> :P
[20:36] <holstein> TimeVirus: brand new is a great time for them to fail.. its actually more likely
[20:36] <holstein> TimeVirus: you can google search that fact, or ask wd..
[20:37] <holstein> regardless, its plausible..
[20:38] <TimeVirus> well I've been using it as a logical ntfs volume for a while ... but this is my first atempt at using it as a boot divice
[20:38] <TimeVirus> device*
[20:38] <holstein> TimeVirus: im just saying, its not constrictive to assume its not broken, or failing.. since they *all* fail
[20:38] <TimeVirus> I partitioned it to allow lubuntu install and run VMs from it
[20:39] <holstein> TimeVirus: sounds like you did a custom install, then.. i would assume that is the issue, and try grub repair
[20:39] <TimeVirus> ok
[20:41] <TimeVirus> when asked if I wanted to make it a primary partition or? I left it at 'no' -- Linux doesnt need a primary partition -- could that be it?
[20:41] <holstein> TimeVirus: *anything* in your custom partitioning can be broken
[20:41] <holstein> TimeVirus: i would try booting the drive on another machine.. if it doenst boot, then, you can safely assume its something in your build
[20:42] <holstein> TimeVirus: you can then, try the boot repair i linked a while back.. or, you can just remove the lubuntu partitions, and clear out empty space, and let the installer automatically install on the empty space
[20:42] <holstein> by default, grub will be installed on the first hard drive, and not on the USB
[20:42] <holstein> so, i would use the mini iso to make sure i get the operating system and grub exactly where i want
[20:43] <holstein> !mini
[20:43] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:43] <TimeVirus> the first drive would be my internal then
[20:43] <holstein> TimeVirus: correct.. so, if you didnt specify, thats where you installed grub.. *not* on the USB drive
[20:43] <TimeVirus> unacceptable --- too small
[20:43] <TimeVirus> Grub isnt on the internal
[20:43] <holstein> TimeVirus: its not about "acceptable".. its about where you are expecting it to be
[20:43] <holstein> TimeVirus: expecting it to be on the USB when you actually installed on the internal drive is the issue..
[20:43] <TimeVirus> lol no
[20:44] <holstein> TimeVirus: yes
[20:44] <TimeVirus> grub isnt on the internal
[20:44] <holstein> TimeVirus: if you followed the defaults, you get grub on the internal
[20:44] <TimeVirus> wanna see?
[20:44] <holstein> TimeVirus: no
[20:44] <TimeVirus> no help here
[20:44] <TimeVirus> thanks anyway
[20:44] <holstein> TimeVirus: if you set that to manually install on the USB, then great.. but, the drigve is *not* booting.. and i think we should explore why that can be
[20:44] <holstein> TimeVirus: an easy way is because the installer installs grub where you are not expecting
[20:45] <TimeVirus> huh?
[20:45] <holstein> but, you can use the boot repair link i gave to double check
[20:45] <holstein> TimeVirus: what do i need to repeat for you?
[20:45] <TimeVirus> k
[20:45] <holstein> TimeVirus: the installer installs on the internal drive.. puts grub there by default
[20:45] <TimeVirus> repeat again that grub is on my internal
[20:45] <holstein> TimeVirus: did you specify a different location?
[20:45] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:46] <TimeVirus> of course i did
[20:46] <holstein> TimeVirus: then, you *cant* boot the extneral USB that is selected by the bios
[20:46] <TimeVirus> gah
[20:46] <holstein> TimeVirus: if grub is on the internal drive, then thats where grub is
[20:46] <TimeVirus> makes no sense
[20:46] <holstein> 16:45 < TimeVirus> repeat again that grub is on my internal
[20:46] <TimeVirus> why would that be?
[20:46] <TimeVirus> why would a flash boot and not hdd
[20:46] <holstein> ^that means that grub is on the internal drive.. which is what i asked, and you stated happened
[20:46] <TimeVirus> usb is usb
[20:46] <holstein> TimeVirus: the flash installer *has* a boot loader
[20:47] <holstein> TimeVirus: the usb hard drive yuo install lubuntu on has grub installed to your internal hard drive
[20:47] <TimeVirus> holstein
[20:47] <holstein> you stated above grub is on the internal drive. so, you set that to boot firt in the bios
[20:47] <holstein> the usb 500gb hard drrive has no boot loader on it
[20:47] <TimeVirus> if grub were where I didnt tell it to go (Internal) then wouldnt the internal boot grub ?
[20:47] <holstein> thats why its not booting
[20:48] <TimeVirus> windows boots as it always has
[20:48] <TimeVirus> let me tell you one last time
[20:48] <holstein> TimeVirus: no need
[20:48] <TimeVirus> GRUB is not on the internal
[20:48] <holstein> 16:45 < TimeVirus> repeat again that grub is on my internal
[20:48] <holstein> ^ thats you saying is *is* on the internal
[20:48] <TimeVirus> you asked
[20:48] <TimeVirus> 'what do I need to repeat'
[20:48] <holstein> TimeVirus: so, i appologize for suggesting you confirm
[20:49] <TimeVirus>  sarcastically i said ...
[20:49] <holstein> 16:45 < TimeVirus> repeat again that grub is on my internal
[20:49] <TimeVirus> you blowhard!
[20:49] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:49] <holstein> TimeVirus: regardless, its easy to use boot repair