[00:01] <freaked286> moep
[00:02] <mirak> hello
[00:02] <mirak> is it suicide to use btrfs ?
[00:02] <freaked286> im using a 286-16mhz right now with fat16..and im still living
[00:03] <lawltoad> hi, hi is there a way I can start up ubuntu normally, but after login start NO desktop environment?
[00:04] <reisio> lawltoad: yarp
[00:04] <reisio> mirak: nah
[00:04] <reisio> mirak: you should always have a backup no matter what FS you use, though
[00:06] <lawltoad> um.. how? Googling around I keep running into ppl trying to fix problems with it not starting, haha
[00:06] <daftykins> lawltoad: i would suspect taking lightdm out of the run-at-boot list
[00:07] <lawltoad> I don't mind lightdm, I just meant after that
[00:08] <reisio> after lightdm?
[00:08] <reisio> what do you want to start after lightdm?
[00:08] <lawltoad> I like having it for login for some accounts, but other accounts I'd rather it drop me at a shell
[00:08] <daftykins> lawltoad: you can't login graphically and get *not* graphics :)
[00:09] <daftykins> lawltoad: you're aware you can just switch to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F1, login and stop X, yes?
[00:10] <reisio> hrmmm, you probably can, but there are simpler ways like the man says
[00:10] <lawltoad> daftykins, Well its a family computer, so my grandparents need the gui that I
[00:10] <trism> lawltoad: you could have a session that just starts xterm, but it is pretty unpleasant, better would be starting ratpoison or i3 or something
[00:10] <lawltoad> 'd rather avoid
[00:10] <lawltoad> but yea, that sounds workable actually
[00:10] <sagredo> Beldar: off to see if it worked
[00:10] <daftykins> lawltoad: i fail to see what you're trying to achieve
[00:11] <Beldar> world dominance
[00:11] <lawltoad> Ctrl+alt+f1 is what I wanted  ^ ^
[00:11] <daftykins> heh
[00:12] <daftykins> lawltoad: or if you own a smartphone, tablet or laptop, SSH into it over the network ;)
[00:13] <lawltoad> Well I was working on writing a window manager, so I like having a session without gnome starting up in the background
[00:13] <lawltoad> xinit -- :1 from a shell dosn't stop apps from picking up seetings from gnome I think
[00:14] <Guest17828> hello
[00:15] <daftykins> hi
[00:16] <lawltoad> interesting, I can't ctrl+alt F1 from lightdm
[00:16] <reisio> lawltoad: try F2
[00:16] <daftykins> lawltoad: what version and distro are you running?
[00:16] <reisio> lawltoad: what you'd probably want to do, if you're booting it from being off, is add a custom grub entry that specifies an earlier runlevel
[00:17] <lawltoad> I'm dumb, since its a mac i need Fn as well
[00:17] <reisio> ah :p
[00:17] <daftykins> reisio: i didn't think that works in Ubuntu since it doesn't use runlevels 0o
[00:17] <Boscop> i connected my wifi usb stick to my computer. lsusb lists it: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter    and lsmod also: r8712u                184158  0    but i can't connect to a network
[00:17] <daftykins> !realtek
[00:17] <daftykins> Boscop: ^
[00:18] <daftykins> i know the # doesn't match but it may be relevant
[00:18] <reisio> daftykins: upstart has no provision for it?
[00:19] <daftykins> reisio: not sure what you mean there i'm afraid, i was just under the impression that Ubuntu only uses one runlevel for running and one for shutting down and that's it
[00:19] <daftykins> but i probably don't understand it enough to articulate my meaning 0o
[00:19] <reisio> mmm
[00:19] <trism> !text
[00:19] <trism> that'd do it
[00:20] <reisio> nah, probably works, though I don't know the particulars of upstart
[00:20] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/215089/starting-linux-in-text-mode-using-grub2
[00:21] <icecube45> Hey guys, I have a question about my bash script, when ran as me, it works fine, but when called upon by php, or just ran by a different user, it fails, do I need to add the www user (or other user) to like a filesystem group?
[00:21] <daftykins> icecube45: ask in the bash channel
[00:21] <daftykins> pretty sure i've told you this before too 0o
[00:22] <icecube45> I don't think you have..
[00:22] <daftykins> maybe a separate issue.
[00:22] <icecube45> But was unaware a bash channel exsisted, thanks mate
[00:22] <daftykins> oh actually that sounds pretty...
[00:22] <daftykins> obvious.
[00:22] <daftykins> whoops.
[00:24] <sagredo> how can I find out if my machine is EFI?
[00:25] <reisio> sagredo: what do you see during bootup?
[00:25] <sagredo> reisio: hp BIOS
[00:25] <reisio> sagredo: BIOS is what you have if you don't have U/EFI
[00:26] <sagredo> reisio: alright thanks
[00:26] <sagredo> easy enough
[00:26] <reisio> :)
[00:29] <sagredo> im trying to follow the directions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[00:30] <sagredo> ./dev/sdb1   *        2048   966811647   483404800   83  Linux /dev/sdb2       966813694   976771071     4978689    5  Extended /dev/sdb5       966813696   976771071     4978688   82  Linux swap / Solar
[00:30] <sagredo> and I get this: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[00:30] <stiv2k_> hello i just installed ubuntu 14.04 desktop amd64 on my computer and while it installed fine, it slows to a crawl and freezes as soon as my desktop loads on bootup
[00:30] <stiv2k_> i cant even move the mouse
[00:31] <stiv2k_> it becomes lagged by like a whole minute
[00:31] <stiv2k_> i also installed WITH the updates as i had the ethernet cable connected
[00:31] <sagredo> what file system type is Extended?
[00:33] <sagredo> tryign to follow these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[00:33] <sagredo> and I get ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[00:34] <sagredo> help?
[00:35] <daftykins> sagredo: yeah, you're being told the answer
[00:35] <fisch246> hello I just updated to 14.04.1 from 12.04 (not sure which point release, being as it was desktop). the application "festival" is failing to upgrade. It looks like it's having issues extracting the the gzip
[00:36] <Izaya> Anone familliar with the nouveau E[Xorg[1282]] failed to idle channcel 0xcccc000 issue on starting back up from suspend? (http://imgur.com/9W3fVJl)
[00:36] <daftykins> sagredo: what's the file system? EXT4? "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/blah /mnt/point"
[00:36] <sagredo> daftykins: what is the syntax for telling it extended?
[00:36] <stiv2k_> it works in failsafe graphics mode
[00:36] <stiv2k_> i think its an nvidia problem
[00:36] <stiv2k_> help?
[00:36] <daftykins> stiv2k_: what kind of system? desktop? what graphics card?
[00:37] <fisch246> oh i think i might know. it could have just gotten a corrupted download. where are the packages stored before installed?
[00:38] <stiv2k_> daftykins: its an acer aspire ast180
[00:38] <daftykins> fisch246: you could purge packages by running "sudo apt-get clean"
[00:38] <__Alexander_> hm.. i think about getting into c++ again, is there a really good ide available ?
[00:38] <stiv2k_> daftykins: which means it shold have a geforce 6xxx on it
[00:39] <stiv2k_> 6100
[00:39] <daftykins> stiv2k_: "lspci" would confirm that
[00:39] <fisch246> daftykins: that did it, thanks :)
[00:39] <fisch246> problem solved
[00:39] <fisch246> [solved] lol
[00:39] <daftykins> my pleasure
[00:39] <stiv2k_> daftykins: with failsafe graphics, i was able to login, connect wifi, and it showed some kernel updates available... let me see if this fixes it
[00:39] <daftykins> stiv2k_: doubt it
[00:39] <stiv2k_> daftykins: why?
[00:40] <daftykins> stiv2k_: well just do it then we'll continue
[00:40] <stiv2k_> ok
[00:40] <stiv2k_> one minute
[00:41] <daftykins> stiv2k_: heh an old single core Athlon64 huh? oh dear you ought to not be running standard ubuntu really
[00:41] <stiv2k_> daftykins: really?
[00:42] <stiv2k_> daftykins: it had windows xp on it
[00:42] <stiv2k_> ....
[00:42] <stiv2k_> i needed something that isn't EOL
[00:42] <daftykins> stiv2k_: yeah, xubuntu would be better
[00:42] <daftykins> what RAM does that thing have? 2GB?
[00:42] <stiv2k_> daftykins: lspci confirms the geforce 6100
[00:43] <Izaya> Has anyone encountered this on returning from suspend:
[00:43] <Izaya> nouveau E[Xorg[1282]] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000
[00:43] <talgolan65380> Kabini APU w/ HD8210 GCN based GPU and Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit. How do I get the UVD/VDPAU/VAAPI stuff working with the OSS drivers? I tried Movie Player, VLC and MPV and all 3 are using CPU decoding for video playback
[00:44] <Bashing-om> stiv2k_: single core Athlon, lubuntu runs well on that hardware. My Wife's old system could not take the upgrade to 12.04 ubuntu, but Lubuntu ran very well.
[00:44] <UltimaKR> jradd: alright, im home now...you said to find a number in the start column in the fdisk command, but there was no start column for sdb
[00:46] <stiv2k_> Bashing-om: hmm
[00:47] <stiv2k_> Bashing-om: its not going to be doing much multitasking, its just running the printer in the living room and for playing youtube on the tv
[00:47] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the kernel update didn't fix it. why? and what do i do now?
[00:48] <sagredo> daftykins: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[00:51] <daftykins> sagredo: ok, wrong file system then. are you sure that's your intended partition? "sudo parted -l" or "sudo fdisk -l" to confirm
[00:51] <sagredo> daftykins: tryign to follow this to recover my install http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: just a heads up that system is going to suck regardless of if you get it working, since it's so old for a full ubuntu with unity experience
[00:52] <sagredo> daftykins: for me that corresponds with /sdb2
[00:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i dont really want 'unity' honestly
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:52] <sagredo> and /sdb1
[00:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: im not trying to get all the fancy 3d effects
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: ok, go download xubuntu or lubuntu and install it instead
[00:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: shit. really? i wasted a dvd for that?
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: does that thing have 1GB RAM?
[00:53] <stiv2k_> daftykins: 2GB
[00:53] <daftykins> stiv2k_: well you could switch right now if you can deal with the wait and have a fast connection
[00:53] <reisio> stiv2k_: you can change your desktop after installation
[00:53] <sagredo> daftykins: any adivce for filestyle type for Extended?
[00:54] <daftykins> sagredo: i told you what to run, until you provide me with the output from those commands we are not going to progress. i am not clicking your link
[00:54] <sagredo> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/q1uyCqzV
[00:55] <Boscop> daftykins: I downloaded the driver from here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true but build fails because there is no source for armv6l. where is that source?
[00:55] <stiv2k_> daftykins: im reading on google that the nouveau driver is kinda crappy in 14.04 and that installing proprietary drivers will fix it
[00:55] <daftykins> sagredo: sdb2 is *not* a partition, sdb1 is your /
[00:56] <daftykins> Boscop: armv6? what device is this? what OS is this?
[00:56] <sagredo> daftykins: i have to assing one partition to /mnt
[00:56] <sagredo> and another to /mnt/boot
[00:56] <sagredo> what do you suggest?
[00:56] <Boscop> daftykins: raspberry pi, raspbian wheezy
[00:57] <daftykins> Boscop: right, so that's debian based. this is not #debian
[00:57] <Boscop> can i use the sources in the arm64 folder?
[00:57] <Boscop> daftykins: but it also doesn't work in ubuntu
[00:57] <daftykins> sagredo: no, you're trying to follow instructions that aren't appropriate for your issue
[00:57] <daftykins> Boscop: sorry, thems the brakes.
[00:58] <sagredo> daftykins: ok ill start from scratch
[00:59] <sagredo> daftykins: after a fresh boot I get the following message on startup 'error: invalid arch-independent ELF magic."
[00:59] <sagredo> Enterting rescue mode...
[00:59] <sagredo> grub rescue>
[01:00] <sagredo> i'm on a live USB session right now that obviously works
[01:00] <daftykins> sagredo: i was really hoping you meant you'd just clean install :(
[01:00] <sagredo> but when I try to install to my USB drive I get that error
[01:00] <sagredo> daftykins: yes clean install
[01:00] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[01:00] <sagredo> daftykins: this was my first time booting after "installation complete"
[01:00] <daftykins> hi.
[01:00] <daftykins> sagredo: ok, any other disks besides the SSD in this system?
[01:01] <sagredo> daftykins: the USB drive that I'm running on now
[01:01] <sagredo> 'sda'
[01:01] <daftykins> that's not a disk and it's not really 'in'
[01:01] <JokesOnYou77> I'm trying to tail -f file.txt | grep pattern | tee someOtherfile  And it works fine with grep but tee gives no output.  What am I doing wrong? :<
[01:01] <sagredo> daftykins: alright, then no
[01:02] <daftykins> sagredo: what's this machine?
[01:02] <daftykins> JokesOnYou77: to the bash channel with you
[01:02] <sagredo> daftykins: HP m8530f
[01:02] <sagredo> daftykins: amd64 Phenom I
[01:03] <frsfett4> I have low volume from my headphone using alc1150 on MSI Z97 motherboard.
[01:05] <daftykins> sagredo: mm-hmm, and what version is on your flash drive?
[01:05] <sagredo> 14.04
[01:05] <frsfett4> ppl
[01:05] <sagredo> just downloaded today
[01:06] <frsfett4> any idea?
[01:06] <daftykins> frsfett4: someone will reply if they know, don't repeat
[01:06] <frsfett4> I am newbie
[01:06] <sagredo> frsfett4: turn up the volume in the volume level
[01:06] <daftykins> sagredo: 64-bit?
[01:06] <sagredo> frsfett4: or manually using 'alsamixer' in terminal
[01:06] <sagredo> daftykins: yes
[01:06] <daftykins> sagredo: i see results of Phenom X4 online
[01:06] <bubbasaure> daftykins, the hd is an external.
[01:06] <knightshade> hi
[01:06] <frsfett4> I already slide the volume to max but it is a alsa issue.
[01:07] <frsfett4> I reported the bug.
[01:07] <daftykins> bubbasaure: i don't remember talking to you, to what are you talking about?
[01:07] <frsfett4> No reply yet.
[01:07] <sagredo> daftykins: phenom x4 9550
[01:07] <sagredo> frsfett4: did you try 'alsamixer'?
[01:08] <bubbasaure> daftykins, this is beldar, I am on my nexus, I had them make a new table and auto install.
[01:08] <daftykins> sagredo: are you sure that "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/drive" fails as you said earlier?
[01:08] <frsfett4> Yes, I can increase a little bit with alsamixer, I set to 150%.
[01:08] <sagredo> daftykins: let me try
[01:08] <frsfett4> My sound codec dump shows 2 EAPD node.
[01:09] <daftykins> bubbasaure: ah roger that
[01:09] <daftykins> sagredo: so this HDD isn't internal either?
[01:09] <stiv2k_> daftykins: its not really that slow
[01:09] <reisio> knightshade: ohio
[01:09] <sagredo> daftykins: no
[01:09] <frsfett4> EAPD?
[01:09] <stiv2k_> daftykins: fear mongerer
[01:09] <sagredo> daftykins: that worked
[01:09] <daftykins> stiv2k_: perhaps you just have low standards
[01:09] <sagredo> daftykins: but what about sdb2?
[01:09] <bubbasaure> Ah though it was my bad
[01:09] <daftykins> sagredo: can you stop going on about that :P
[01:10] <sagredo> daftykins: fine
[01:10] <sagredo> daftykins: what next?
[01:10] <daftykins> sagredo: "sudo blkid | pastebinit" and "pastebinit /mnt/drive/etc/fstab"
[01:11] <daftykins> stiv2k_: btw don't speak to me in that way again, thanks
[01:11] <stiv2k_> daftykins: lol. i'll keep playing with it and see how i like it. if not i'll switch to LXDE or XFCE. which would you recommend?
[01:11] <stiv2k_> daftykins: it was a joke man
[01:11] <daftykins> stiv2k_: don't you see fun is off limits here! :P
[01:12] <daftykins> stiv2k_: did you fix it then? what's the deal
[01:12] <m100> Why do Gentoo users get all the fun?
[01:12] <sagredo> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8067224/ ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/8067226/
[01:12] <daftykins> m100: support question for ubuntu or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[01:13] <daftykins> hrmm well those match up just fine
[01:13] <frsfett4> Does ubuntu support NV Geforce 6200? I installed but feel kinda slow  comparing to windows.
[01:14] <daftykins> depends which Windows
[01:14] <daftykins> and depends which Ubuntu
[01:14] <sagredo> daftykins: so do I need to grub-install?
[01:14] <sagredo> to the new mount point?
[01:14] <frsfett4> Windows XP and xubuntu 14.04.
[01:15] <daftykins> sagredo: no i doubt that's relevant
[01:15] <sagredo> daftykins: ok then restart?
[01:15] <daftykins> you haven't changed anything yet, why would you restart?
[01:15] <frsfett4> freezing some time
[01:15] <sagredo> daftykins: what do I change?
[01:15] <daftykins> sagredo: relax, i'm thinking about it
[01:16] <OerHeks> nvidia 6200 needs the old nvidia-173 driver .. but it is slow yes
[01:16] <frsfett4> especially when using chrome.
[01:16] <daftykins> i really don't get why everyone's so obsessed with chrome these days
[01:16] <frsfett4> OerHeks: I installed the latest one.
[01:17] <frsfett4> and I rolled back to Xorg.
[01:17] <knightshade> Today I found out that the fedora installer is much more clever than the ubuntu one. It first asks all the important questions, then copies the files and everything. The ubuntu installer is like: ask first question, do stuff, ask next question, do next thing, so you have to keep an eye on the screen all the time.
[01:17] <frsfett4> Install nvidia gfx driver I got splash lost.
[01:18] <OerHeks> knightshade, does the fedora installer download updates simultanious with installation?
[01:18] <OerHeks> ;-)
[01:18] <sagredo> daftykins: Most likely you did not run grub-install to the device your BIOS is actually booting from. Try running grub-install against all drives but *no* partitions and be sure that you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" once you're booted into Ubuntu and select all drives there as well. If you don't do the dpkg-reconfigure step then this problem will return when the grub-pc package is upgraded and /boot/grub gets the new modules wit
[01:18] <rww> odd, I don't remember that being the case when I installed Ubuntu an hour ago. Oh well.
[01:18] <sagredo> from gnu.org
[01:19] <bubbasaure> daftykins, with a bootinfo run on another install the hd was erring so I had them do a new table thinking a auto-install would work, just info, carry on.
[01:19] <frsfett4> Knightshade: I have never used Fedora. Does Fedora good to install?
[01:19] <knightshade> OerHeks: I don't remember.
[01:19] <daftykins> sagredo: ah i didn't see your error messages correctly above, i thought you just got grub rescue and not the elf magic one again.
[01:19] <sagredo> daftykins: so what do we do dude
[01:20] <frsfett4> I heard Gentoo is very cool but complicated to install.
[01:20] <sagredo> daftykins: i need to get grub directed to the right partition
[01:20] <daftykins> you really are an impatient type.
[01:20] <daftykins> sagredo: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/drive /dev/sdb
[01:20] <knightshade> frsfett4: I think it's not much harder to install than ubuntu.
[01:21] <sagredo> daftykins: Installing for i386-pc platform.
[01:21] <sagredo> uhm.... wut
[01:21] <sagredo> why i386?
[01:21] <daftykins> don't worry about it.
[01:21] <sagredo> k
[01:21] <sagredo> Installation finished. No error reported.
[01:21] <sagredo> reboot?>
[01:21] <daftykins> first off "sudo umount /mnt/disk"
[01:21] <frsfett4> Knightshade: Gentoo has to configure almost everything with command.
[01:21] <daftykins> then shutdown, remove USB flash drive, power on
[01:24] <sagredo> daftykins: umount: /mnt/disk: not found
[01:24] <knightshade> frsfett4: That's good if you want to understand how the system works.
[01:24] <daftykins> sagredo: oh, i forgot to brain - "sudo umount /mnt/drive"
[01:24] <frsfett4> anyone tried guteprint?
[01:25] <daftykins> sagredo: see i was testing you! you weren't paying attention! :P
[01:25] <sagredo> lol
[01:25] <sagredo> daftykins: alright, trying now
[01:25] <sagredo> brb
[01:28] <stiv2k_> daftykins: yes it works fine with the binary nvidia driver
[01:28] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i did failsafe X session, installed the binary driver, rebooted, worked
[01:28] <daftykins> stiv2k_: oh right, i assumed you had no idea how to do that since that's why you came in asking
[01:28] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the computer is only slow when doing its silly 3D effects on the windows. can i disable that?
[01:28] <daftykins> nope.
[01:28] <stiv2k_> lol
[01:28] <stiv2k_> ok
[01:28] <daftykins> unity is 3D permanent now
[01:28] <stiv2k_> ick
[01:28] <daftykins> that's why xubuntu is the better bet
[01:29] <stiv2k_> XFCE > LXDE?
[01:29] <daftykins> basically xfce would be the first step 'down' and is, to my tastes, pleasant looking
[01:29] <daftykins> i find LXDE to be just a bit TOO low end :)
[01:29] <daftykins> google some pictures maybe, see how you feel
[01:29] <stiv2k_> ok i will install it
[01:30] <daftykins> stiv2k_: i'd just grab the meta packages xubuntu-desktop for example then change session at the login screen
[01:30] <stiv2k_> daftykins: thanks
[01:32] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i am trying out plex media server for the first time on it
[01:32] <stiv2k_> the chrome cast support looks promising
[01:32] <daftykins> err good luck with that :D
[01:34] <sagredo> daftykins: not quite mate
[01:35] <sagredo> daftykins: now it's        error: invalid extent.
[01:35] <daftykins> sagredo: that's all of it, or?
[01:35] <sagredo> daftykins: yup
[01:35] <sagredo> error: invalid extent.
[01:35] <sagredo> Entering rescue mode...
[01:35] <sagredo> grub rescue>
[01:35] <daftykins> still grub rescue, or?
[01:36] <sagredo> daftykins: still grub rescue
[01:36] <stevendumani> hello ubuntu! I installed a program called "minbar" which i used to use on my previous 12.04 installation, I'm using 12.04 now too but I'm getting this: (minbar:6069): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated I tried reinstalling but no joy... any clue?
[01:36] <daftykins> sagredo: i'd only be googling.
[01:37] <sagredo> can someone help me get my grub right
[01:37] <daftykins> sagredo: damn it i said google it, not blindly ask the channel
[01:37] <Beldar> sagredo, Can we run that boot script again?
[01:37] <sagredo> Beldar: sure man
[01:37] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Sagitt
[01:37] <Beldar> sagredo, ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:37] <daftykins> whoops
[01:38] <Beldar> sorry Sagitt
[01:38] <daftykins> stevendumani: tried a purge reinstall?
[01:38] <daftykins> !info minbar precise
[01:38] <Beldar> sagredo, Do you have another usb or cd?
[01:39] <sagredo> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/SuAMY5PB
[01:39] <sagredo> Beldar: no
[01:40] <stevendumani> daftykins I installed and removed it from the software center. is there a way to purge it from the terminal?
[01:41] <daftykins> stevendumani: "sudo apt-get reinstall --purge <package>"
[01:41] <daftykins> i think you can combine purge with reinstall anywho
[01:42] <Beldar> sagredo, The HD is now sda, so it may have been in the last grub loading daftykins helped with. So again run theses commands. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:43] <daftykins> Beldar: did removing the flash drive kill the new configuration 0o
[01:43] <sagredo> Beldar: ok, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:43] <sagredo> Beldar: now what
[01:43] <Beldar> sagredo, than  copy and paste all this command sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[01:44] <Beldar> sagredo, don't ask now what.
[01:44] <sagredo> Beldar: done
[01:44] <Beldar> sagredo, Now this sudo chroot /mnt
[01:45] <sagredo> Beldar: ok
[01:45] <Beldar> sagredo, than this grub-install /dev/sda
[01:45] <sagredo> Installation finished. No error reported.
[01:45] <Beldar> sagredo, than this grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[01:46] <Beldar> sagredo, looking good just a couple more.
[01:46] <sagredo> same response
[01:46] <Beldar> sagredo, update-grub
[01:47] <sagredo> done
[01:47] <Beldar> sagredo, all in one copy and paste exit && sudo umount /mnt/sys && sudo umount /mnt/proc && sudo umount /mnt/dev/pts &&  than reboot
[01:48]  * Beldar prays now, lol
[01:48] <daftykins> >:D
[01:48] <sagredo> Beldar: thanks, giving it a go
[01:48] <Beldar> I'm listening to penn jillette and richard dawkins, it's blasphemy I know
[01:49] <ObrienDave> and helping? brave man ;P
[01:49] <Beldar> I think this was all user error in one way or another just an unexperienced user is all
[01:50] <Beldar> usb boots will switch hd's
[01:50] <lawltoad> I changed my metacity-theme xml file but ubuntu seems to be ignoring it
[01:50] <daftykins> probably more likely if someone does it wrong by changing boot order instead of one-time changing boot device
[01:50] <lawltoad> are logs or somthign I can check?
[01:51] <ObrienDave> Beldar, i meant listening to penn gillette, richard dawkins and helping LOL
[01:51] <Beldar> ;)
[01:51] <Beldar> pennSundayschool.com
[01:51] <Beldar> off topic warning
[01:52] <daftykins> doesn't he hang out with Teller anymore :/
[01:52] <Beldar> Oh yeah, just has other stuff
[01:53] <sagredo> Beldar: well done
[01:54] <sagredo> Beldar: ELF magic reconfigured
[01:54] <Beldar> sagredo, Cool, finally. We all embrace it. ;)
[01:54] <sagredo> daftykins: I bet your solution would have worked, if I didn't remove the USB drive
[01:54] <sagredo> Beldar: so in layman's terms
[01:54] <sagredo> what did you do?
[01:54] <daftykins> sagredo: could be, sounds like you configured boot wrong to me
[01:55] <sagredo> daftykins: I didn't configure boot xD
[01:55] <sagredo> ubuntu 14.04 did
[01:55] <Beldar> sagredo, I noticed in the script the HD was sda and had you do a chroot, you were actually logged into the install.
[01:55] <sagredo> so what was going on?
[01:55] <daftykins> sagredo: you misunderstand, you had to boot the flash drive somehow.
[01:56] <sagredo> Beldar: grub was just directed to the wrong partition?
[01:56] <daftykins> perhaps i should've told you to chroot prior to the grub install
[01:56] <daftykins> i dunno
[01:57] <Beldar> sagredo, No not sure it was going to the mbr not a partition, we only mounted the partition so we could chroot to it. Sometimes the method daftykins had you do although legit does not work, hard to say really.
[01:57] <sagredo> Beldar: so grub needed to be directed to the mbr
[01:58] <daftykins> lol, GRUB always lives at the MBR
[01:58] <daftykins> you need to do some homework, sir
[01:58] <sagredo> I don't pretend to put out releases
[01:58] <sagredo> I just use them xD
[01:58] <Beldar> sagredo, yeah, here is the chroot page I used save it. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[01:58] <sagredo> if anything I should report the bug
[01:59] <daftykins> i'm not sure the package at fault would get fixed
[01:59] <sagredo> so others are not distraught from using ubuntu
[01:59] <daftykins> we don't have the source code to sagredo
[01:59] <Beldar> sagredo, I don;t think there is any bug. When you use a usb booted it will switch the sda and sdb in your case, I think that was waht happened.
[01:59] <daftykins> honestly? you're the first person i've seen get that, it's mostly EFI issues today
[02:00] <sagredo> Beldar: good idea with the link
[02:00] <sagredo> will save
[02:00] <sagredo> nice to have a solid stable system again
[02:00] <sagredo> DAT FEEL
[02:00] <Beldar> I always chroot or use super grub and do it from the desktop
[02:00] <UltimaKR> Hello, I am trying to use dd to clone a drive but am very new at this...could anyone help me? i ran dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda/diskclone/img but i got the message /dev/sdb permission denied
[02:01] <sagredo> super grub? o.O
[02:01] <sagredo> never heard of it
[02:02] <reisio> sagredo: win32 nonsense
[02:03] <reisio> UltimaKR: you might need sudo
[02:03] <reisio> UltimaKR: how big is this drive?
[02:03] <UltimaKR> reisio: it is 80 gb...trying to clone it to a 160 gb drive
[02:03] <reisio> UltimaKR: what's on it?
[02:03] <UltimaKR> for directory do i use /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[02:04] <reisio> UltimaKR: directory?
[02:04] <Beldar> reisio, used by Herman who has one of the best overall sites for all kinds of technical fixes, an easy way to get in
[02:04] <cyclick> is 32bits ubuntu still recommended?
[02:04] <UltimaKR> reisio: well i mean where i am cloning TO
[02:04] <reisio> cyclick: only if you don't have a 64-bit proc
[02:04]  * Beldar waits for smart retort
[02:04] <reisio> UltimaKR: of= stands for output file
[02:05] <cyclick> reisio: thanks that is what I was thinking but I just wanted to make sure
[02:05] <reisio> UltimaKR: what's on sdb?
[02:05] <UltimaKR> reisio: sdb is a friend's HDD that is messed up because it has 0 partitions and i am trying to mount and clone it
[02:06] <reisio> UltimaKR: oh okay
[02:06] <reisio> UltimaKR: messed up in a hardware way?
[02:07] <UltimaKR> reisio: not quite sure, but it is not really recognized except by one computer as "unknown device"
[02:07] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, well
[02:08] <reisio> UltimaKR: you'll want to do dd if=foo of=bar bs=something to speed it up
[02:08] <reisio> something being lower than RAM
[02:08] <reisio> bs=1024M, for example
[02:08] <reisio> UltimaKR: and if you have trouble, try ddrescue instead
[02:08] <reisio> UltimaKR: ddrescue -n /dev/sdb path/to/file.1; ddrescue -d -r1 /dev/sdb path/to/file.2
[02:09] <Aldem> Hi all
[02:09] <UltimaKR> reisio: im sorry im really new to this...what do you mean by path to file.1
[02:09] <Aldem> Anyway to install Linux on a UEFI BIOS with Secure Linux ?
[02:09] <reisio> UltimaKR: well you can clone one disk to another disk
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: or you can clone one disk to another _file_
[02:10] <UltimaKR> reisio: And i dont really need to speed it up...i would rather it take longer and do it right
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/some/path/you/care/for/filename
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: it does it right either way
[02:10] <Beldar> Aldem, Is that a linux release?
[02:10] <reisio> that is the only purpose of dd, to copy things exactly
[02:10] <reisio> if it fails you will know it
[02:10] <UltimaKR> reisio: i would prefer to send it to a file that i can get later
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: yes :)
[02:10] <reisio> files are better than disks
[02:10] <Aldem> Beldar: Well, I'd like to try Ubuntu or Fedora yes
[02:11] <UltimaKR> reisio: so like i would then type ddrescue -n if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/??
[02:11] <reisio> Aldem: secure linux?
[02:11] <morrowfart> hi all
[02:11] <Beldar> Aldem, Ubuntu can be installed that is the support here is all.
[02:11] <reisio> UltimaKR: right, only ddrescue doesn't use if= and of=, it just assumes the first argument is the input and the second the output
[02:11] <morrowfart> im having trouble with running morrowind on ubuntu with wine
[02:11] <Aldem> errrr
[02:11] <Aldem> Secure Boot
[02:11] <Aldem> Sorry
[02:12] <Aldem> UEFI Bios with Secure BOOT
[02:12] <reisio> morrowfart: did you read this? https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1015
[02:12] <stevendumani> daftykins I tried that but still have 2 problems: if I run the program with sudo it opens but gives the same Gtk-WARNINGs, and no icon in the panel, which means I can't close the program or it will be running in the background, and when I run it as a normal user it doesn't load at all
[02:12] <UltimaKR> reisio: well i can just use dd regular, but what do i put where ?? is
[02:12] <daftykins> Aldem: yes, it works out of the box
[02:12] <reisio> Aldem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:12] <morrowfart> yes i read that
[02:12] <reisio> UltimaKR: huh?
[02:12] <morrowfart> didnt help me
[02:13] <UltimaKR> reisio: i mean where i put of=/mnt/ what goes after that second /
[02:13] <morrowfart> i get an "Unknown stencil mode format" error
[02:13] <reisio> UltimaKR: any path you like, that exists
[02:13] <reisio> UltimaKR: /home/ultimakk/backup.1
[02:13] <reisio> UltimaKR: /mnt/windows/User/UltimaKR/Desktop/foo.1
[02:13] <UltimaKR> reisio: ah ok let me try...be back soon
[02:13] <reisio> whatever you like
[02:14] <morrowfart> ??
[02:14] <reisio> morrowfart: the particular wine version can be very important
[02:14] <reisio> and also the particular game version
[02:14] <morrowfart> morrowind is the last patched version
[02:14] <reisio> since some are rated platinum, if you follow any instructions, it should work without issue
[02:14] <morrowfart> with both expansions installed
[02:15] <morrowfart> i tried with 1.7.6
[02:15] <morrowfart> didnt work
[02:15] <morrowfart> and its rated platinum
[02:15] <reisio> then you probably didn't read the instructions
[02:15] <reisio> morrowfart: you've got to click the link
[02:15] <UltimaKR> reisio: i got an error: reading /dev/sdb input/output error
[02:15] <reisio> morrowfart: 1.6.1820
[02:15] <reisio> morrowfart: which goes here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3383
[02:15] <reisio> UltimaKR: use ddrescue
[02:16] <reisio> UltimaKR: and once you're done with ddrescue you can ask #hardware about things like freezing the drive and smacking it, etc. :p
[02:17] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the icons on xfce are all jacked up
[02:17] <UltimaKR> reisio: whats the form for that? do i put in 1 line: sudo ddrescue -n /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.1
[02:17] <reisio> sudo ddrescue -n /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.1; sudo ddrescue -d -r1 /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.2
[02:18] <reisio> the first tries to grab the data that it can that it isn't getting errors for
[02:18] <reisio> the second tries real hard, for everything
[02:18] <daftykins> stiv2k_: pic?
[02:20] <UltimaKR> reisio: /var/lib/sudo/ultimakr/0: read only file system is what i got
[02:21] <reisio> UltimaKR: is this an Ubuntu install, or the live image?
[02:22] <UltimaKR> reisio: this is lubuntu installed from a livedvd
[02:22] <reisio> UltimaKR: what path did you use? Presumably one to a filesystem that is not read-write
[02:24] <UltimaKR> reisio: i did in 1 line: sudo ddrescue -n /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.1; sudo ddrescue -d -r1 /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.2
[02:25] <reisio> UltimaKR: is /home/ultimakr/ a real place?
[02:26] <UltimaKR> reisio: i havent a clue, i just followed what you said lol...ultimakr is what the computer is named so i figured that was right
[02:26] <reisio> UltimaKR: heheh, okay
[02:26] <reisio> UltimaKR: you use... Windows normally?
[02:27] <UltimaKR> reisio: on my main computer yes, but it didnt recognize this drive AT ALL
[02:27] <UltimaKR> reisio: this is the only one that has even acknowledged it as an "unknown device"
[02:27] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, y'know like 'C:\Windows\fonts'?
[02:27] <reisio> that's a path, on Windows
[02:27] <UltimaKR> reisio: right
[02:27] <reisio> in Unix it'd be /Windows/fonts
[02:28] <reisio> but it has to be a place that exists
[02:28] <c|oneman> my dist-upgrade ssh session got at the part where it starts asking you questions about configuration files that have changed
[02:28] <c|oneman> what should I do?
[02:28] <reisio> UltimaKR: so maybe try instead of /home/ultimakr/backup.1, try ~/backup.1
[02:28] <reisio> UltimaKR: which will save the file to 'backup.1' in your user's home directory
[02:28] <c|oneman> got cut off*
[02:28] <UltimaKR> reisio: but when i go to file manager the default place is /home/ultimakr
[02:29] <reisio> UltimaKR: hum, must be some sudo nonsense
[02:29] <reisio> UltimaKR: try it without sudo
[02:29] <UltimaKR> ok be right back
[02:30] <UltimaKR> reisio: bash: /usr/lib/command-not-found: input/output error appears twice
[02:31] <reisio> UltimaKR: what does 'which ddrescue' say?
[02:31] <et09> i installed libbullet-dev, how would i figure out how to link the system copy with g++?
[02:31] <UltimaKR> reisio: the one i just told you was without sudo, the other error was with
[02:31] <lawltoad> How do I strip off the header bar using gtk3 themeing
[02:32] <reisio> UltimaKR: huh?
[02:32] <UltimaKR> reisio: what are you asking? the bash error is without sudo, the /var/lib/sudo error was with
[02:33] <reisio> UltimaKR: 'which ddrescue', it's a command
[02:33] <reisio> that's why I put it in quotes :)
[02:33] <Geo> I have a program that overwrites one line to a file regularly... is there a command I can use to continually update to my screen what the contents of that file are? I want to be able to observe when that line changes from 'foo' to 'bar'
[02:33] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i dont know, only some of the icons worked
[02:33] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i cant show you a screenshot without revealing stuff
[02:34] <reisio> Geo: watch
[02:34] <Geo> watch what?
[02:34] <reisio> Geo: or a while loop
[02:34] <Geo> ;)
[02:34] <reisio> Geo: 'watch'
[02:34] <UltimaKR> reisio: ohhh....so which ddrescue and nothing else on the line?
[02:34] <reisio> UltimaKR: right
[02:34] <daftykins> stiv2k_: edit? ;)
[02:34] <daftykins> stiv2k_: you said that thing's wirelessly connected, ja?
[02:34] <UltimaKR> reisio: that did nothing...gave me another command line
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: watch grep bar path/to/file
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: or: while(true); do grep bar path/to/file; sleep 1s; done
[02:35] <Geo> if its just one line, I could cat, couldn't I?
[02:35] <Geo> or is there some consquence to that
[02:35] <reisio> UltimaKR: well that is odd, but I'm guessing you don't have ddrescue installed, sudo apt-get install ddrescue
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: no particular consequence
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: tail -f might even work
[02:35] <reisio> dunno
[02:35] <Geo> ok, thank you
[02:36] <Geo> have a good night
[02:36] <reisio> nope, tail doesn't work :)
[02:36] <UltimaKR> reisio: this is even odder: 2 errors: sudo: unable to open /var....input/output error
[02:37] <reisio> UltimaKR: ...kind of sounds like _your_ hard disk is failing :p
[02:37] <UltimaKR> reisio: and sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/apt-get: input/output error
[02:37] <UltimaKR> reisio: which hard drive though
[02:37] <reisio> UltimaKR: the one your OS is on
[02:37] <UltimaKR> reisio: does this possibly have anything to do with lubuntu 12.10?
[02:37] <reisio> UltimaKR: nope
[02:38] <reisio> UltimaKR: run 'cd' first, then sudo apt-get install ddrescue
[02:38] <stiv2k_> daftykins: yes it is
[02:38] <UltimaKR> reisio: and do you mean the one lubuntu is on, or the one im trying to get stuff off?
[02:38] <UltimaKR> reisio: cd to where?
[02:38] <reisio> UltimaKR: both
[02:38] <reisio> UltimaKR: just 'cd'
[02:38] <TJ-> reisio: "tail -F -s 2 /tmp/test" will work for a file being truncated and rewritten
[02:39] <daftykins> stiv2k_: mmm that's a pain, really i'd have just purged ubuntu-desktop and installed xubuntu-desktop after, but that's awkward with wifi
[02:39] <daftykins> well not purged ubuntu-d, just remove
[02:39] <UltimaKR> reisio: no difference
[02:40] <reisio> TJ-: sounds like GNU bloat :D
[02:40] <stiv2k_> daftykins: my internet is pretty fast
[02:40] <stiv2k_> can i have it auto login to xfce
[02:40] <reisio> UltimaKR: well i/o errors are bad
[02:40] <daftykins> stiv2k_: right, but to login at a TTY and remove ubuntu-desktop, you lose wireless connection
[02:41] <UltimaKR> reisio: So i see lol
[02:41] <reisio> UltimaKR: see if anything changes if you disconnect the broken drive
[02:41] <stiv2k_> daftykins: why
[02:41] <UltimaKR> reisio: LOL the entire computer just rebooted
[02:41] <evil_dan2wik> Is it safe to change my wifi card with my computer on?
[02:41] <evil_dan2wik> laptop*
[02:41] <daftykins> stiv2k_: sorry but i'm off the clock now, download xubuntu and burn another DVD to make life easier
[02:42] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay
[02:42] <jorge2> is last.fm powered by gnu fm?
[02:42] <reisio> UltimaKR: then you were obviously using the OS on the "broken" drive
[02:42] <daftykins> unless someone else wants to assist
[02:42] <reisio> UltimaKR: can you not tell the difference between your friend's OS and your own? :)
[02:42] <reisio> jorge2: nawp
[02:42] <sydney> daftykins: your off the clock?
[02:43] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: depends on the type of card :)
[02:43] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: if it's a card that slides in and out of a slot on the side, most likely yes
[02:43] <UltimaKR> reisio: my friend has windows so it is really easy to tell them apart :D
[02:43] <jorge2> what is nawp?
[02:43] <daftykins> sydney: correct, only without the gramattical error
[02:43] <daftykins> -typo
[02:43] <reisio> UltimaKR: k...
[02:44] <sydney> daftykins: what do you mean by that?
[02:44] <daftykins> sydney: this isn't English class, this is ubuntu support
[02:44] <sydney> Iknow,but please say stuff that makes sense. :P
[02:45] <daftykins> it does make sense, you're the only one asking
[02:46] <sydney> i drop my case...
[02:46] <daftykins> good
[02:46] <daftykins> 'cause i'm off the clock \o/
[02:46] <UltimaKR> reisio: ok now im really confused because the computer wont boot at all
[02:47] <reisio> UltimaKR: that'd make sense if your drive was failing
[02:48] <UltimaKR> reisio: so is one drive screwing up the other or is this pure coincidence?
[02:48] <reisio> UltimaKR: it's one of those things :)
[02:49] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Are these drives connected on the same IDE controller, as Primary and Slave drives?
[02:49] <UltimaKR> TJ- yes, but i was told to unhook the slave
[02:49] <evil_dan2wik> reisio, the card is easily accessable from under the laptop.
[02:50] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: underneath a chassis panel?
[02:50] <evil_dan2wik> yes
[02:50] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: those are meant to be added/removed while the system is off, but realistically I couldn't comment, #hardware will know
[02:50] <evil_dan2wik> 2 screws and it is out, but will ubuntu find it after it is chaged?
[02:50] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Triple-check the jumper settings on the drives, and don't trust the label on the drive itself. Just last week I had exactly the same issue with a drive inserted into my 'caddy' machine for doing data recovery, I configured the jumpers according to the label and was getting disk I/O errors. Eventually I searched the web and found a manual which showed different jumper settings. I changed the drive to match and it worked fine
[02:51] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: ask #hardware if it's not unsafe, then you can easily test yourself
[02:51] <UltimaKR> TJ- but the drive that is supposed to boot has not changed, so why all of a sudden can i not boot?
[02:51] <reisio> jumpers :p
[02:51] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: no it really really is not safe
[02:51] <TJ-> UltimaKR: upset the connectors whilst messing with the recovery drive?
[02:51] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: why would you even consider that?
[02:52] <reisio> well, given that you have few other options, you may as well assume a magical elf came in and changed your drive hardware configuration
[02:52] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: If the card is in a mini PCIe slot then in theory that should support hot-plug by default
[02:52] <UltimaKR> TJ-: the regular one was secured in the driver bay untouched...it is a test computer with no data...should i wipe and reinstall lubuntu, but this time 14?
[02:53] <TJ-> UltimaKR: OK, have you considered there's a PSU starvation issue going on?
[02:53] <TJ-> UltimaKR: adding the additional drive could have overloaded the PSU
[02:53] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, the wifi card is failing but I am not allowed to turn this laptop off.
[02:53] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: what? why
[02:54] <Beldar> aware parents is my guess
[02:55] <UltimaKR> TJ- no i didnt...it was working fine before...what would that have to do with boot failure though? the comp turns and shows bios
[02:56] <TJ-> UltimaKR: I'm thinking of scenarios that can account for your reports. If the PSU is failing maybe when the drives spin up the load is too much. Stranger things have been know.
[02:56] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Does the BIOS 'see' the drive and report its details?
[02:56] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, this laptop isn't mine but they said I can't turn it off because of some processing thing.
[02:56] <reisio> he disconnected the new drive
[02:57] <reisio> so it's just the original drive now
[02:57] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: 'they' ? you're making zero sense here
[02:57] <reisio> UltimaKR: what all do you see when it tries to boot up?
[02:57] <TJ-> UltimaKR: It could be something as simple as the boot order had changed
[02:57] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, This laptop isn't mine, I need to replace the wifi card for the person who owns it.
[02:58] <sydney> What are some usb mini wifi cards that i know will work with ubuntu 14.04 and get pretty good signal,and are cheap?
[02:58] <evil_dan2wik> They said I can't turn it off.
[02:58] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: but why :p
[02:58] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: and somehow they brought it to you with something still running, asking you to perform a job that you can't? this doesn't add up. don't even try it.
[02:58] <UltimaKR> TJ-: Well something happened...i turned everything off, reconnected everything, discharged the battery (did that first of course), and now it did an ide configuaration thing
[02:58] <UltimaKR> but now i see secondary 0 and 1 both not found
[02:59] <TJ-> UltimaKR: check the connections on the motherboard
[02:59] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, we work near eachother
[02:59] <TJ-> UltimaKR: and, check the power connectors haven't been dislodged
[02:59] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: they said you can't turn it off and you said "okay, that seems reasonable"? :)
[02:59] <reisio> is it top secret why you can't?
[02:59] <evil_dan2wik> I can ask
[02:59] <evil_dan2wik> but I said I would try to do it.
[02:59] <reisio> okay, well
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Sounds like an initiative test to me
[03:00] <reisio> you could ask #hardware if it's safe to remove and add cards while a system is running
[03:00] <reisio> and then you can know the answer beforehand
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: is it a mini PCIe card?
[03:00] <DaOiSTs> any one know about laptop cameras not being detected on ubuntu 14.4?
[03:00] <daftykins> no i'm telling you it's not safe
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, yes.
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Or, does it report on the USB bus?
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, PCI-E
[03:00] <daftykins> it will go bang.
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: As I already said, PCIe was designed to be hot-pluggable
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[03:00] <Beldar> hmm they are smart enough to have a process running but not aware enough on the card.
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> Well I guess I will try then.
[03:01] <UltimaKR> TJ-: just checked connectors and still see "strike f1 to retry boot, f2 for setup utility"
[03:01] <daftykins> big mistake
[03:01] <reisio> how's it a big mistake if it was designed for that?
[03:01] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Well, you've changed something vital
[03:02] <daftykins> reisio: heh, guess you don't do much hardware
[03:02] <UltimaKR> TJ-: so what can i do?
[03:02] <reisio> lolololol
[03:02] <evil_dan2wik> Wifi card is out, laptop is still responding.
[03:02] <reisio> way to answer a reasonable question :p
[03:02] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: I'm sure it'll be a big mistake eventually :p
[03:02] <UltimaKR> TJ-: this computer was working fine, but once it rebooted, it wouldnt do just that
[03:02] <TJ-> UltimaKR: figure out what has changed!
[03:02] <daftykins> sorry but i'm watching a program and it's far too late for me to give you a full explanation
[03:02] <reisio> UltimaKR: got somethign else you can try the drive on?
[03:03] <reisio> daftykins: any explanation would've sufficed
[03:03] <daftykins> reisio: 'ain't nobody got time for that'
[03:03] <Beldar> reisio, You have nothing to stand on you do it all the time. I'm in their ignore probably
[03:04] <UltimaKR> reisio: try which drive? both are failing now lol
[03:04] <reisio> yeah you've only got time to say you don't have time
[03:04] <reisio> UltimaKR: whichever you're interested in the most
[03:04] <reisio> Beldar: whose ignore?
[03:05] <Beldar> the majic elf's
[03:05] <UltimaKR> reisio: Well in this case I feel as though the normal drive is not the issue, because the computer is having major issues with both secondary drives, too
[03:06] <UltimaKR> reisio: it says both cd rom drives are not installed, and i never touched them
[03:06] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, then it's probably not the drive, which is good in a way
[03:06] <reisio> if you don't have a backup :)
[03:06] <reisio> and less good if you do (as drives are cheaper than computers)
[03:07] <daftykins> he's still dealing with PATA from what i saw earlier, the whole thing should be buried
[03:07] <UltimaKR> reisio: well either way its not that devastating, im talking to you on my main computer, and there is another one sitting next to the one we are working on
[03:07] <reisio> UltimaKR: heheheh
[03:07] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, so, you could just try the ddrescue stuff from one of those, then
[03:07] <UltimaKR> reisio: this time the lubuntu dvd booted, so i am going to do a fresh install and replace 12.10 with 14
[03:07] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Have you damaged some pins on the IDE connectors?
[03:08] <UltimaKR> reisio: I cant do that stuff on the other one, it only takes SATA drives
[03:08] <UltimaKR> TJ-: no i havent, especially not on the cdrom drives
[03:09] <reisio> UltimaKR: good times
[03:10] <reisio> ata<->usb adapters/enclosures are maybe $20
[03:10] <reisio> handy to have around
[03:12] <UltimaKR> reisio: interestingly, i have the sata/ide to usb adapter, but the other computer couldnt recognize the broken drive from the start
[03:15] <evil_dan2wik> Well anyway, I connected the new wifi card and the laptop turned off, and then the wifi card burst into flames.
[03:16] <reisio> UltimaKR: problems :)
[03:17] <Beldar> oh my
[03:17] <evil_dan2wik> It blew off the metal cover and dropped out a few small microchips.
[03:18] <Beldar> 2 points daftykins
[03:19] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[03:19] <Beldar> lol one of the kings of offtopic samthewildone
[03:20] <Beldar> never helping just taking
[03:20] <daftykins> \o/
[03:20] <jorge2> how do I encrypt my ram and swap? and how do I disable hibernate?
[03:21] <OerHeks> ram encryption, no such thing :-D
[03:21] <Beldar> jorge2, Hibernate is off, if you encrypt the HD the swap is to.
[03:21] <jorge2> there is for swap why not ram too?
[03:21] <samthewildone> Beldar, :D
[03:22] <samthewildone> Beldar, I just keep forgetting to add that channel to favs
[03:22] <Beldar> samthewildone, Ah, my mistake.
[03:22] <jorge2> I just have my home folder encrypted Beldar
[03:22] <Beldar> jorge2, Than swap should be.
[03:23] <UltimaKR> reisio: well the new lubuntu install is going smoothly...not certain i want to stick the other drive back in lol
[03:23] <reisio> :p
[03:23] <jorge2> how can I know for sure is there a command? Beldar
[03:23] <Beldar> well the Os encrypted is anyway, look in gparted
[03:23] <Beldar> jorge2, NOt sure I never encrypt
[03:24] <UltimaKR> reisio: if this install works to completion, i may just ask my friend what on earth is on that drive...pay $10 to buy another off ebay
[03:24] <reisio> jorge2: there's no need to encrypt ram, it'd be full of encrypted information
[03:24] <Beldar> probably a fstab notation a live would shoe it as unallocated jorge2
[03:24] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/248158/how-do-i-setup-an-encrypted-swap-file
[03:26] <OerHeks> when your /home/  is encrypted, swap is turned off, AFAIK
[03:27] <MavKen> is swap cleared on reboot?
[03:28] <TJ-> OerHeks: encrypted home doesn't affect encrypted swap; both are there
[03:28] <jorge2> not sure if I am going to use swap next time I do a fresh install
[03:29] <jorge2> I monitor system resources on many linux systems and I never had to use the swap partition
[03:30] <evil_dan2wik> So it looks like the laptop is still fine, the hot plug of the new wifi card must have triggered the card to explode.
[03:31] <reisio> nice
[03:31] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Did you insert it with fingers on tracks, or without keeping it aligned in the slot as it was pressed down into flat position? It sounds like you shorted out the power and ground rails
[03:31] <evil_dan2wik> Just some scorched motherboard traces.
[03:31] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: i feel like you're not being honest
[03:32] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, I made sue it was aligned.
[03:32] <evil_dan2wik> I can take photos if you want.
[03:33] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Well, I wish I could make mini PCIe cards spontaneously combust! I've never had a problem in years of hot-plugging
[03:33] <daftykins> it was ridiculous of you to advise such a needlessly risky activity
[03:33] <daftykins> all for a sake of impatience
[03:33] <daftykins> however i still don't fully believe this conversation :P
[03:35] <UltimaKR> Whoa I go for 5 minutes to fresh install lubuntu and i miss an explosion?
[03:35] <TJ-> daftykins: same here, but its an entertaining idea... now if we can just write malware  to cause Wifi cards to reset and hotplug themselves...!
[03:35] <daftykins> -_-
[03:35] <OerHeks> grinn "wifi - don't try this @home"
[03:35] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: awaiting pics
[03:36] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, booting phone.
[03:41] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: do you have to hand-crank it maybe?
[03:42] <evil_dan2wik> NO.
[03:42] <evil_dan2wik> sry caps
[03:43] <evil_dan2wik> I took the photos but the phone keeps turning off.
[03:44] <evil_dan2wik> I'll let it charge.
[03:44] <evil_dan2wik> Sorry this is taking so long.
[03:44] <daftykins> nah you're just a liar, it's ok
[03:45] <daftykins> g'bye then
[03:45] <UltimaKR> whats going on here? what exactly exploded or didnt explode
[03:46] <daftykins> UltimaKR: general chat is verboten.
[03:46] <UltimaKR> then why do i see so much of it
[03:47] <UltimaKR> with you at the center, i might add
[03:47] <OerHeks> evil_dan2wik, before you can file a bugreport, you must try to reproduce the situation
[03:47]  * TJ- guffaws :)
[03:47] <daftykins> UltimaKR: i would recommend you don't argue
[03:48] <TJ-> Much as I'd like to stay and see the photos, I have to go patrolling for a missing Husky
[03:48] <daftykins> it'll put you in the naughty corner
[03:48] <daftykins> TJ-: good luck sir
[03:48] <UltimaKR> daftykins: Who are you exactly? I'm 100% on evil's side now
[03:49] <daftykins> UltimaKR: doesn't the name badge explain all?
[03:49] <UltimaKR> Thank you very much to TJ- and reisio! Helped me learn a lot tonight.
[03:49] <daftykins> honestly users these days.
[03:49] <samthewildone> TJ-, sup
[03:49]  * samthewildone throws TJ- a ice cold beer
[03:49] <TJ-> g'morning/g'night/g'riddance :)
[03:58] <hank1to> hello
[04:00] <hank1to> how to network home
[04:05] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, got a place I can upload to? Imgur isn't accepting the images.
[04:06] <samthewildone> evil_dan2wik, got  a google account ?
[04:06] <evil_dan2wik> Yes.
[04:06] <samthewildone> use google drive and place in your public folder
[04:06] <samthewildone> like this
[04:07] <samthewildone> evil_dan2wik, http://goo.gl/ebQZFl
[04:08] <TJ-> Did I miss the photos?
[04:08] <samthewildone> TJ-, back so soon
[04:09]  * samthewildone picks up his baseball bat
[04:09] <shadaloo> anyone know where ubuntu mounts my iphone?
[04:09] <Wug> gedit is livelocking when I open files and it is the most goddamn annoying thing
[04:09] <TJ-> Yeah, and celebrating. I went to get the dog-leads and noticed the bowl left out in the yard was empty... the Husky had returned... after 6 hours (she opened a gate at 11pm)
[04:09] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, uploading it now.
[04:10] <orb> Using iphet, shadaloo?
[04:10] <Beldar> shadaloo, Should show in home side panel, maybe media other wise.
[04:10] <samthewildone> shadaloo, doesn't a dialog pop up ?
[04:10] <shadaloo> hey Beldar
[04:10]  * samthewildone runs from Beldar 
[04:11] <shadaloo> I'm trying to access this location afc://5913d28f292300e02731b57fc992148fc80d1be7:3/org.videolan.vlc-ios
[04:11] <shadaloo> if that makes sense?
[04:11] <evil_dan2wik> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4qtUORxzq9jSUkzVVJhRHg3S28&usp=sharing
[04:11] <evil_dan2wik> there we go.
[04:12] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, daftykins
[04:12] <shadaloo> samthewildone: yeah i can access the files in nautilus but I want to access them from the term
[04:12] <samthewildone> oh like mnt/
[04:13] <shadaloo> right
[04:13] <shadaloo> mnt is empty
[04:13] <samthewildone> media ?
[04:13] <samthewildone> "/media"
[04:14] <shadaloo> only USB drive is listed
[04:14] <shadaloo> in /media
[04:14] <samthewildone> damn
[04:14] <shadaloo> yeah
[04:14] <shadaloo> no idea what this afc:// means
[04:14] <samthewildone>  I know theres a cmdline code that lists all connected devicess
[04:14] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, you see it?
[04:15] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: I do, what is the make/model of the PC?
[04:15] <shadaloo> i guess it's in gvfs
[04:15] <Wug> is http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.8.3.orig.tar.xz 403 for anyone else
[04:15] <samthewildone> shadaloo, try df-h
[04:16] <samthewildone> or df -m
[04:16] <kwerk> shadaloo, can you access http://chrispo.org:5000 from vlc?
[04:16] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, Acer aspire something
[04:16] <samthewildone> kwerk, he wants to access via term
[04:16] <evil_dan2wik> let me get the box
[04:16] <kwerk> oh
[04:16] <SonikkuAmerica> I think I knocked off /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ accidentally, but my (64-bit) system still seems to be working... should I reinstall anyway or what?
[04:16] <Tex_Nick> shadaloo: if you can see the directory in nautilus ... try dragging it into the teriminal window ?
[04:17] <Tex_Nick> terminel*
[04:17] <shadaloo> terminal* ;D
[04:17] <shadaloo> kwerk: what is that?
[04:17] <samthewildone> term
[04:17] <samthewildone> Tex_Nick, good idea
[04:18] <samthewildone> Tex_Nick, simple yet effective.
[04:18] <kwerk> My living room.
[04:18] <shadaloo> nice Tex_Nick
[04:18] <shadaloo> that did it, it was in /run
[04:18] <samthewildone> lemme see
[04:18] <shadaloo> kwerk: let me try ^^
[04:18] <Tex_Nick> shadaloo: great ;)
[04:19] <Wug> who maintains us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <Wug> they need to be shouted at
[04:19] <jorge2> what is a good tutorial on ssh tunneling?
[04:19] <samthewildone> COOL
[04:19] <samthewildone> I see people !
[04:19] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, Acer Aspire 1830T
[04:20] <samthewildone> kwerk, im gonna hack your house now
[04:20] <Wug> jorge2: if by tunneling you mean "running unsecure applications through a secure SSH tunnel", you're going to want to look at SSH's -R, -L, and -D options
[04:20] <samthewildone> kwerk, watch im gonna hack your lights
[04:20] <kwerk> uh oh
[04:20] <Wug> just read the entries for them in the man page
[04:20] <Wug> (man ssh)
[04:20] <samthewildone> kwerk, better yet, I'll use your house as a node
[04:20] <shadaloo> kwerk: yes i am to, lol
[04:20] <Wug> -R and -L are dumb port forwards, and -D is a socks proxy
[04:20] <kwerk> oh great
[04:21] <shadaloo> i think i see you on your pc
[04:21] <shadaloo> lol
[04:21] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, anything else?
[04:21] <kwerk> yeah, it's pointed right at me
[04:22] <evil_dan2wik> now start twerking.
[04:22] <samthewildone> kwerk, sit down
[04:22] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: No, but it looks as if it was already majorly damaged - the entire front chassis/cover is missing (right side of the photo)
[04:22] <kwerk> heh
[04:22] <samthewildone> kwerk, blue shirt really
[04:23] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, it was, yes.
[04:23] <kwerk> yeah
[04:23] <kwerk> ok, time to turn the cam the other way
[04:23] <samthewildone> is it remote from the desktop ?
[04:24] <jorge2> Wug when you have ssh on a machine if I connect to that machine can I copy files from that connection to the machine connecting to it... also can you do remote desktop via ssh?
[04:24] <kwerk> is what?
[04:25] <kwerk> no, it's a box that houses all my media.
[04:25] <kwerk> and runs that cam all the time with motion.
[04:25] <samthewildone> oh its motion actv
[04:25] <samthewildone> nice
[04:25] <Wug> jorge2: you can run programs remotely with X forwarding (the -X option turns this on) if you have a local X server running (if you're on windows theres xming) but its not really the same as remote desktop.  For secure file transfers over a network, use scp (which uses ssh as a backend).
[04:25] <kwerk> yeah
[04:25] <samthewildone> now add a minigun to it.
[04:25] <kwerk> actually, it can also be seen at http://cam.chrispo.org
[04:26] <kwerk> if you have vlc.
[04:26] <samthewildone> minigun + laser to make it a real home defense
[04:26] <kwerk> in theory. It doesn't always work with everyone's setup.
[04:26] <kwerk> hmm
[04:26] <samthewildone> *this plugin is not supported
[04:26] <kwerk> yeah, i gotta find something better to stream with.
[04:26] <samthewildone> i have vlc but, probably not the web version
[04:26] <samthewildone> brb
[04:28] <kwerk> cheesus, it's a mess in here
[04:31] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: I can see what you did... it wasn't the connecting into the pcie slot that caused it. On the main PCB at the 'top' end of the pcie card are several power rails and transistors, looking at the adapter card it looks as if the metal RF grounding shield on the underside of the adapter shorted directly to one of those power rails, causing a huge current flow that caused it to go pop.
[04:31] <Wug> who do I have to yell at in order to fix a broken package mirror
[04:32] <TJ-> Wug: the mirrors team?
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, Where did I touch?
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> Oh, I see now.
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> wow, I didn't even see that there.
[04:35] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: It's bad design for sure
[04:36] <TJ-> especially when the adapter has an unprotected metal grounding can
[04:37] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[04:37] <evil_dan2wik> But still my fault right?
[04:37] <artistalobo> hi
[04:39] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: The thing looks to be a terrible state anyhow, no telling if something wasn't out of place to cause that. You said the previous adapter was faulty, with the damage I can see, I wouldn't be surprised if it extended to affecting that slot
[04:41] <botnut> hi all
[04:42] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody know how to report bug for gitk, a GUI manager for git?
[04:42] <jellow> hello botnut
[04:42] <Malsasa> I mean, what is the official site? Or the email? I can't find them on manpage or by googling.
[04:43] <Beldar> !bug | Malsasa Be sure it's an actual bug
[04:44] <botnut> anyhow have issues running ubuntu 14.04 desktop in vmware player on a high dpi screen - i.e. 3200x1800?
[04:44] <TJ-> Malsasa: see http://git-scm.com/community
[04:44] <botnut> running into a lot of issues and cant figure out how to resolve it
[04:44] <Malsasa> TJ-: thank you so much.
[04:44] <Malsasa> Beldar: thank you.
[04:45] <botnut> ive been the same vm for a long time now - and just upgraded my laptop
[04:46] <botnut> since its a vm - i justcopied it over thinking everything would be fine -
[04:46] <botnut> but the high res threw everything off - and now - get an error every time i boot
[04:47] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: This is what it *should* look like http://www.notebookreview.com/picture/?f=55359
[04:51] <botnut> anyone?
[04:51] <Beldar> botnut, Virtualbox?
[04:51] <botnut> vmware
[04:52] <botnut> i get the error and one thing i notice
[04:52] <botnut> i cannot switch themes
[04:52] <botnut> it  wants to stay on ambiance
[04:52] <botnut> if i switch to radiance - it only partially switches it over
[04:53] <Beldar> botnut, I would try #vmware
[04:53] <botnut> well its not vmware
[04:53] <botnut> i created a new vm - fresh install
[04:53] <botnut> and there is no problem
[04:53] <botnut> the fresh install works great
[04:53] <botnut> i can switch themes and do what i want
[04:53] <botnut> on the old vm - it wont budge
[04:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey when my computer shuts down, the internal clock resets and gives me errors; can this in any way be related to the kernel/operating system?
[04:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I need to make sure this is not a software fault before I ask for a warranty.
[04:55] <Nexuus> sounds like you've got a bad battery in your machine Akiva-Thinkpad
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, that is what I think. I let my computer run on a low battery, and it shut down; this is when the problems started happening.
[04:56] <Nexuus> are you on a laptop?
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, yah
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, care to guess which one ^_^
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ?
[04:57] <Nexuus> you have the battery...but then there's also a small battery that's on the motherboard...
[04:57] <botnut> beldar - ive spent a lot of time looking around and some people have reported the same - even without virtualization
[04:57] <Nexuus> it sounds like that's the one that's probably bad.
[04:57] <botnut> its related to the high dpi screen - 3200x1800 rez
[04:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, yah that was my assumption too; but I have another strange problem
[04:57] <samthewildone> opps
[04:57] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[04:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> when my computer is on battery, and I plug in my adapter, this causes the laptop to reboot.
[04:58] <samthewildone> kwerk, still hosting your life ?
[04:58] <kwerk> oh, i just forget the camera is there.
[04:59] <samthewildone> Akiva-Thinkpad, common
[04:59] <botnut> akiva - assuming this is a thinkpad - sounds like a power / battery issue
[04:59] <samthewildone> Akiva-Thinkpad, what happens ... as soon as the government notice that your trying to juice up your laptop the short the power so they can insert a trojan
[05:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> heh
[05:00] <botnut> akiva - i do know - that lenova has a some firmware fixes for their batteries and power issues - might want to check their support site for that
[05:00] <kwerk> i've discovered colloquy-mobile and znc are a winning combination.
[05:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> botnut; that is very helpful
[05:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thank you
[05:08] <vijai> Hello
[05:08] <vijai> need some help
[05:08] <vijai> I have windows 8.1 and installed ubuntu 12.04 for dual boot
[05:09] <vijai> but while installing ubuntu, it says removing conflicting os and installs grub
[05:09] <vijai> after  that, I'm not able to boot into win 8.1 at all
[05:09] <vijai> if I select 8.1, it goes back to grub
[05:10] <Beldar> vijai, In the ubuntu terminal run sudo parted -l and pastebin all the results
[05:11] <vijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8068445/
[05:11] <vijai> sdb is where both os is installed and also the bootloader
[05:14] <Beldar> vijai, I see 5 ntfs partitions, including 3 in an extended, so in a cursory glance it looks like W8 is probably still there, not sure of a fix is all. I wondered from your description if it was over written.
[05:15] <Beldar> 6 ntfs actually
[05:15] <vijai> No, the sda is my storage hdd
[05:15] <vijai> I always have sda removed from mobo while installing os
[05:15] <vijai> sdb is my ssd
[05:16] <vijai> and no os resides in sda
[05:16] <Beldar> !bootinfo | vijai, run this script and pastebin the output.
[05:18] <Beldar> vijai, Did you resize W8 with ubuntu on the install?
[05:18] <vijai> nope
[05:18] <vijai> I installed windows first
[05:18] <vijai> used windows to repartiton
[05:19] <vijai> left 40 odd gb for linux as unpartitioned
[05:19] <vijai> then installed ubuntu in it
[05:19] <kwerk> seems that usually has worked for me in W7
[05:19] <Beldar> vijai, Good, did you reboot it for the auto chkdsk?
[05:19] <Beldar> before installing ubuntu
[05:19] <vijai> I couldnt get past grub to do any checks on windows
[05:20] <Beldar> vijai, Before the ubuntu install.
[05:20] <vijai> yeah... installed windows, booted it, installed updates
[05:20] <vijai> then only ubuntu
[05:20] <vijai> infact was working on it for like 4 hours or so
[05:20] <Beldar> vijai, When you resized W8 did you reboot it to make sure it was still working?
[05:22] <vijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8068498/
[05:22] <vijai> boot info pastebin
[05:22] <Beldar> vijai, When you resize windows it often does an auto chkdsk, that is the question.
[05:22] <vijai> I did not resize windows during ubuntu install at all
[05:22] <vijai> I installed windows 8.1 during when i did remove linux partition
[05:23] <TechCel> how can I check when the last updates were run? I'm having a production issue and nothing seems to have changed...
[05:23] <vijai> then booted to win 8.1, updated it successfully
[05:23] <vijai> then installed linux in the deleted partition formatting it to ext4
[05:23] <Beldar> vijai, You seem to not understand, however you put grub in the windows boot. Open windows from ubuntu, in the search type grub and any that comes up delete. Be sure the search is in windows.
[05:24] <vijai> sorry, I seem not to understand
[05:24] <vijai> open windows from ubuntu?
[05:24] <vijai> how?
[05:26] <Beldar> vijai, look on the bootscript at sdb1 the boot partition notice the grub there, this can be cleaned out if you can open it. Or you can move the boot flag to sdb2 and run some commands from the W8 disc booted to a terminal.
[05:26] <kwerk> that seems like a lot of partitions
[05:27] <Beldar> vijai, In ubuntu you would see W8 in the sidebar, however probably not the boot partition, so we might just have to boot the windows disc and run the commands, I can give them to you to have and run.
[05:28] <vijai> I tried fixing mbr once from windows disc
[05:28] <vijai> it said success
[05:28] <vijai> but no real success
[05:28] <Beldar> vijai, That wont fix grub in your boot partiton.
[05:29] <TechCel> anyone here familiar with HAProxy?
[05:29] <vijai> ok... What I do now to fix?
[05:29] <Beldar> vijai, Install gparted in ubuntu and open it.
[05:30] <Beldar> vijai, we are going to make sdb2 the booting partition by adding /bootmgr /Boot/BCD to it with the commands.
[05:30] <vijai> yeah installed
[05:32] <Beldar> vijai, right click sdb2-mount flags and click boot we want it to have the boot flag.
[05:32] <Beldar> in gparted of course
[05:33] <vijai> ok so i right click sdb2 and select boot flags?
[05:33] <vijai> manage flags*
[05:34] <Beldar> vijai, yeah
[05:34] <Beldar> vijai, mange flags then click on boot.
[05:34] <noidea> what is a good option to transfer files and folders to another hdd with a progress bar?
[05:34] <Beldar> manage*
[05:35] <vijai> done
[05:35] <vijai> next?
[05:36] <Beldar> vijai, So now sdb2 is the boot partiton it will show up in the terminal you ran in before on the windows disc, here is the link for your commands. http://pastebin.com/75DTPAui
[05:37] <vijai> ok so after I do that, I reinstall grub?
[05:37] <Beldar> vijai, You may need to run after all this is done if windows just does not boot sudo update-grub in ubuntu. No this will not overwrite the mbr.
[05:37] <vijai> oh... ok... thanks :)
[05:37] <vijai> will try now
[05:38] <Beldar> vijai, Cool, Do not remove sda1 it will be useless, but just leave it is all.
[05:38] <Beldar> sorry sdb1
[05:39] <e1e> hi
[05:40] <jorge_> hola
[05:40] <vijai> ok.. thank you beldar :)
[05:40] <Beldar> vijai, You should be set, I have to take off in about 5 minutes for about a half hour is all to do  short job I do.
[05:40] <Beldar> no problem
[05:41] <jorge_> i don't understand ubuntu
[05:41] <Beldar> vijai, I will be back by 45 min from now if there is an issue.
[05:45] <sandrodz> Hello, is there anyone experienced with charybdis IRC server here? Nobody seems to know anything :|
[05:47] <rww> sandrodz: ask #atheme on irc.atheme.org?
[05:56] <evil_dan2wik> kwerk, turn the lights back on.
[06:08] <trijntje> Hi all, I have two folders of around 80 GB each and I want to see the differences between them. Is there a tool that can do this or are the folders too big?
[06:11] <bobfox> trijntje: use diff.
[06:12] <bobfox> diff -r dir_1 dir_2
[06:12] <Tex_Nick> ^^
[06:13] <trijntje> bobfox: cool, thanks
[06:13] <bobfox> trijntje: np
[06:14] <evil_dan2wik> I need to kill wget with 1 command.
[06:14] <evil_dan2wik> how do i do this?
[06:14] <bobfox> sudo killall wget
[06:14] <evil_dan2wik> I can't sudo
[06:14] <KindOne> then do it without
[06:14] <bobfox> ^^
[06:16] <Guest98355> isit possiable to recover data frpm a harddrive thats been formated
[06:17] <trijntje> Guest98355: if you are lucky, yes. You can use testdisk
[06:37] <trijntje> ok, new question, since that folder diff is massive. Is there a tool to subtract one directory from another. Meaning: I want to remove from folder A every file that is also present in folder B
[06:38] <trijntje> that way, I can just use nautilus after running it to check out any files that are unique to folder A, and decide if I want to keep them or remove them
[06:47] <codehacker> #codechef
[06:48] <shadaloo> d00ds
[06:49] <shadaloo> im trying to get 'hide all normal windows' to minimize all
[06:49] <shadaloo> but nothing is happening
[06:49] <shadaloo> ideas?
[06:50] <Beldar> shadaloo, move them around and make sure a popup is not hiding behind them.
[06:50] <atomic_> hello, i have installed ubuntu on a laptop but on boot GRUB does not show any entries like i'm used to. the system boots fine though
[06:50] <bekks> atomic_: So which entries does grub show then?
[06:51] <Beldar> atomic_, What should you be seeing?
[06:51] <atomic_> bekks: none at all
[06:51] <trijntje> atomic_: that means there are no other operating systems installed on your pc, like windows. So grub justs skips the menu and boots straight into ubuntu
[06:51] <atomic_> Beldar: i thought it would show the memtest entries etc
[06:52] <bekks> atomic_: For always showing the menu, you have to configure grub to do so.
[06:52] <atomic_> bekks: on my installation on my pc it does it by default. its not an EFI installation like on the laptop
[06:52] <atomic_> thats the difference in the installation
[06:52] <atomic_> so with an EFI installation i have no boot menu by default?
[06:53] <bekks> atomic_: EFI/non-EFI is irrelevant at that point.
[06:53] <atomic_> ok
[06:54] <atomic_> maybe i have to hold shift for loading menu
[06:54] <bekks> atomic_: Or configure grubv to show the menu by default.
[06:54] <bekks> -v
[06:56] <atomic_> holding shift doesnt work
[06:57] <bekks> atomic_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot_Display_Behavior
[06:57] <atomic_> bekks: ok, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 is set by default
[06:57] <ahmad> im using ubuntu 14.04 where my .vimrc location
[06:58] <atomic_> bekks: thanks for the link. so it's just working :)
[07:23] <OoTLink> would it be more trouble to shrink a linux partition and push it down so I can stick a windows partition on a machine
[07:23] <OoTLink> than it would to just redo the machine with a split partition and then reinstall?
[07:24] <Beldar> OoTLink, You want windows at the front of the HD
[07:24] <bekks> OoTLink: Could you rephrase that please - what are you tryong to do, and which errors do you get?
[07:25] <sagredo> hi dudes
[07:26] <sagredo> i just got my grub fixed and first restart i'm stuck at "grub>"
[07:26] <sagredo> not loading kernel
[07:27] <sagredo> any ideas?
[07:29] <OoTLink> beldar: exactly, bekks: my bro has a thing for tv dongles that don't work very well on linux
[07:29] <OoTLink> and thus I'm going to put a fairl ylocked down windows partition on his machine
[07:30] <OoTLink> just debating reinstalling from scratch with a proper partition scheme, or banging what he has out into that
[07:30] <sagredo> Beldar: haaalllp
[07:30] <sagredo> Beldar: first restart I'm stuck in grub console
[07:31] <bekks> OoTLink: Are you saying "I am either installing from scratch or clone an existing installation into a partition"?
[07:31] <OoTLink> bekks: his machine already has ubuntu on it, and some stuff I'd rather not go through the trouble of backing up and putting back on
[07:31] <OoTLink> it's not irreplacable, in fact I have his 60gb of crap on an external
[07:31] <OoTLink> I just don't wanna transfer it off/back again
[07:32] <Beldar> sagredo, What happened between it working and thr reboot?
[07:32] <Beldar> the*
[07:32] <sagredo> Beldar: I tried to install dnscrypt-proxy
[07:32] <sagredo> that's all
[07:32] <sagredo> installed libsodium
[07:34] <sagredo> Beldar: any ideas for a quick fix or do I have to follow the link you gave me earlier?
[07:35] <Beldar> sagredo, I would use the chroot I gave you yes the link, do you understand it?
[07:35] <sagredo> Beldar: somewhat :s
[07:36] <sagredo> Beldar: i'll give it a go solo
[07:37] <Beldar> sagredo, When you see sdX that is just the HD so if sda it is sdX = sda if you see sdXX it is the hd and the partition, like sdXX = sda1
[07:37] <sagredo> Beldar: right
[07:37] <Beldar> sagredo, If you get it fixed and booted run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[07:37] <lastnode> hllo friends
[07:37] <lastnode> *hello
[07:38] <Beldar> sagredo, You had two HD's are you having the HD with ubuntu read first in the bios, that may be asll that is wrong.
[07:38] <Beldar> all*
[07:39] <sagredo> Beldar: I did manually set the HD group to first boot position
[07:39] <sagredo> but I entered the boot menu at boot
[07:39] <Beldar> sagredo, HD group, is that the HD ubuntu is on?
[07:39] <sagredo> and manually selected the usb drive
[07:39] <sagredo> not the disk
[07:39] <sagredo> so not sure why it would interfere
[07:40] <Beldar> sagredo, YOu are not making sense, that is an internal HD right?
[07:40] <OoTLink> screw it
[07:41] <OoTLink> I'm going to nuke and repave
[07:41] <OoTLink> too much trouble
[07:41] <OoTLink> hehe
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: no
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: external USB
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: and i have a USB thumbdrive that I'm on now doing the rescue from
[07:41] <sagredo> brb
[07:41] <Beldar> The 500 gig HD is a external using a usb?
[07:41] <sagredo> done with the fix
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: yessir
[07:42] <sagredo> brb
[07:42] <Beldar> they said it was an external than an internal now it's an external again, geez
[07:43] <Beldar> no wonder they have issues, not a clue
[07:49] <sagredo> Beldar: yup, working again
[07:49] <sagredo> at least I know how to temp fix it
[07:50] <Beldar> sagredo, Ubuntu on an external is not an ideal use, that may be the issue, hard to say really.
[07:50] <sagredo> Beldar: i've had good luck in the past
[07:50] <sagredo> who knows
[07:56] <fahad3mi> hi
[07:58] <farbod> fahad3mi:hi
[08:21] <alfonsojon> So I did some digging to find out why Spotify holds up logout
[08:21] <alfonsojon> Turns out Spotify for Linux doesn't listen to SIGQUIT (CTRL + \), meaning it doesn't close cleanly on a logout.
[08:22] <alfonsojon> Meaning it waits for 30-60 seconds, not sure how long, then force kills with SIGINT. I made a forum post on the Spotify community for it here: http://goo.gl/kxU4D2
[08:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Why does the Ubuntu SDK tell me, “do not use comma expression”, and what should I use instead?
[08:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> this is for qml properties
[08:47] <afrokarlsson> in ocean is rock like a cross, and people carry crosses because that rock afraids humans from see to inner land
[08:58] <jevta> neko ko govori srpski?
[08:59] <eeee> !rs | jevta
[09:02] <arianit> hi, my 14.04 system is hanging randomly, event after it reinstalled from 32bit to 64 bit. it doesn't use a PAE kernel, right? anyway to use a PAE one? It worked without a hitch when I had the 32 bit.
[09:03] <Beldar> arianit, What desktop and release?
[09:03] <ikhcszxembe> what is PAE
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !pae
[09:04] <cfhowlett> arianit, in other words, 64 bit does not use PAE
[09:04] <arianit> Beldar, 14.04.1 have tried both unity and gnome
[09:05] <Beldar> arianit, Have you checked if you swapping when it hangs?
[09:05] <Beldar> your*
[09:05] <ikhcszxembe> thx
[09:05] <et_> not to but in... but when i had probs like that to be honest is was lose ram chips
[09:05] <et_> loose
[09:06] <et_> just an idea
[09:08] <Beldar> arianit, On a spinning HD swapping will make it seem like it's freezing, with a SSD it is hardly noticeable. I woud set the swappiness to 10 and see if this changes the situation.
[09:11] <arianit> sorry, back from a random freeze
[09:11] <ikhcszxembe> what does /var/log/kmesg.1 say
[09:12] <ikhcszxembe> or other files .1 there
[09:16] <ilk>  Dont get mad, get even!  Our extensive and comprehensive network of bots and socks is powerful enough to punish any group of people! http://server.piratebox.se/phpbb/index.php
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ilk, take your spam elsewhere. not welcome here.
[09:37] <ilk> ;o
[09:37] <ilk> k
[10:19] <troulouliou_dev> hi how ca n i configure a keyboard layout at boot time under X ?
[10:35] <legend> I have internet connection on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS using ppp. But don't have internet on my newly bought Android phone. I can connect my Android phone to ubuntu through USB. Is there a way so that i can use Ubuntu's internet on my Android mobile ?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !tether
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !ics
[10:37] <DJJeff> libvert: XML error: No PCI buses available
[10:38] <reversiblean> I cant find where the $JAVA_HOME env var is defined. I've checked in files; ~/.pam_environment, ~/.profile, /etc/environment
[10:38] <marko-_-> hey i'm using chromium on ubuntu 14.04 and i've managed to make it so i can comment by adding exceptions but now i can't see comments. Why is that? It's just loading
[10:38] <marko-_-> on youtube
[10:41] <a1ex_> hello o/
[10:41] <cfhowlett> marko-_-, for help commenting on Youtube, ask Youtube
[10:41] <marko-_-> there's no youtube channel
[10:42] <cfhowlett> marko-_-, so you ask ubuntu?
[10:42] <marko-_-> yeah and chromium
[10:42] <cfhowlett> marko-_-, look on www.youtube.com for support/help options
[10:42] <legend> cfhowlett, I don't have Wi-Fi or Bluetooth on my PC. I can only connect Android phone to PC by USB Cable. Can i still be able to use it?
[10:43] <gothai> Hi.. my name is Chandra, I want some help on ubuntu..
[10:43] <gothai> is this the right place to ask for ubuntu help
[10:43] <NGC3982_> This is the fallacy of "Official support" channels on IRC. There seems to be some consensus that one should not engage in anything but the related topic
[10:44] <legend> cfhowlett, By easytether, i can use  Android's internet on Ubuntu, but not the other way around.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> legend, and a bit different.  One would think "yes" but I've not seen a way to tether an android device to a computer.  Sorry, but IDK.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !ask | gothai,
[10:46] <gothai> Thanks, ubottu.. I was running 12.04.01, by mistake I did 'do-release-upgrade -d' and it upgraded to 14.10
[10:46] <gothai> Is there a way to rollback to 14.04.01
[10:46] <legend> No worries. Maybe i should buy a wireless router.
[10:46] <gothai> Sorry, I was running 14.04.01.. And upgraded to 14.10. Is there a way to rollback to 14.04.01
[10:47] <guest13> hello!
[10:48] <guest13> I am facing a weird problem, no unity no launcher only wallpaper on screen but in guest session everything working /
[10:49] <sukanto> Hello fellas!
[10:51] <sukanto> Can I run the janalyze.jar file without installing the kernel patch as given in the INSTALL.txt of ndt-3.6.5.tar.gz?
[10:51] <sukanto> i am trying to run the m-lab ndt log files using janalyze.jar
[10:55] <gothai> Hi, I was running 14.04.01 and by mistake I ran do-release-upgrade -d and upgraded to 14.10 (dev release). Is there a way to rollback to 14.04.01 or 14.04. Worst part is the login screen doesn't have a login dialog box to enter username and password. But through VT I can login.
[11:02] <sukanto> guys, im new to this
[11:02] <sukanto> can somebody please tell me
[11:02] <sukanto> how do i join irc://#m-lab@irc.freenode.org
[11:13] <Rohan_m> i have problem related to C its a basic problem can anybody help me here (private message as this group does not allows C  problem to be discussed) ?
[11:26] <johncamelion> can someone help me regarding battery draining issue on 14.04?
[11:27] <evil_dan2wik> johncamelion, remove battery, problem solved.
[11:27] <guest13> no unity no launcher in ubuntu 14.04 64bit but in guest session everything working fine.
[11:28] <Novice201y> Hello. How can I install GTK+-3.0 package? I don't see it in Synaptic.
[11:34] <tobby11> hello
[11:34] <laughingtiger> hi
[11:34] <tobby11> i need help..!
[11:35] <tobby11> anyone there....?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !ask | tobby11
[11:35] <IdleOne> tobby11: ask your question and if someone can help they will
[11:36] <tobby11> acutally i am using xp , and want to dual boot with ubuntu but while disk partitioning i am only getting the whole drive
[11:40] <tobby11> any1 having idead about GPT >
[11:41] <tobby11> any1 having idea about GPT?
[11:41] <djpoo> hi guys i'm looking for help in my ubunutu i have verstion 14.04 lts and i install kali tools and i don't see the manu and no idea how to see the menu of kali would like some help
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: you don't
[11:43] <djpoo> why ikonia..
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: kali tools are for kali
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: install kali
[11:43] <djpoo> no
[11:43] <ikonia> ok, don't install it then
[11:43] <djpoo> there is kali tools for ubuntu also..
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: from which repo ?
[11:44] <djpoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOT8cB0r9cY
[11:44] <djpoo> check this out..
[11:44] <ikonia> djpoo: no
[11:44] <ikonia> djpoo: answer the question
[11:44] <ikonia> djpoo: which repo are they from ?
[11:45] <djpoo> hmm i dont remember
[11:45] <djpoo> how do i tell u this
[11:45] <ikonia> djpoo: bottom line - want kalitools - use kali
[11:46] <cfhowlett> djpoo, this ^^^
[11:47] <djpoo> i'm new with ubuntu
[11:47] <djpoo> is kali are easy to use or should i use it as vmware?
[11:47] <ikonia> djpoo: #kali-linux will help you
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !india | tobby11
[11:54] <technodict> anyone using weechat ?
[11:54] <Ririshi> I'm using xChat here
[11:54] <Ririshi> or XCHAT or however you'd like to spell it :p
[11:55] <technodict> weechats looking good enuf :)
[11:55] <Ririshi> Is there any way to turn off join/leave messages in xchat?
[11:55] <Ririshi> (just got this one :p)
[11:55] <Ririshi> I'm using ubuntu for android devving and I just started... so my stuff isn't quite set up yet
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, right click on the channel > settings > hide joins and leaves
[11:56] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, thank you :)
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, happy2help
[11:56] <Ririshi> err
[11:56] <Ririshi> Problem
[11:56] <qiukun> i'm inside a network requiring login on web
[11:57] <Ririshi> there's no such option in my freenode > settings thing
[11:57] <qiukun> and if you're not login you will be redirect to the log in page
[11:57] <Ririshi> Only log to disk and reload scrollback, cfhowlett
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, CHANNEL - freenode is the network
[11:57] <Ririshi> Pardon me cfhowlett
[11:57] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu
[11:57] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:57] <qiukun> this cause the 14.04 LTS installer to crash, give me a black screen
[11:57] <Ririshi> I like the autocompletion for users :D
[11:58] <qiukun> it could be solved by unplug the cable
[11:58] <qiukun> but i think it's awful
[11:58] <cfhowlett> qiukun, install without network
[11:58] <cfhowlett> qiukun, talk to your system admin ---
[11:58] <Ririshi> Yeah. You can update and install pkgs after the installation
[11:59] <qiukun> cfhowlett: i even don't get a notice from the installer
[11:59] <qiukun> i don't think this is user-friendly
[11:59] <cfhowlett> qiukun, it's not an ubuntu problem - it's your network.
[11:59] <Ririshi> qiukun, the installer has a checkbox to ask whether or not you want to install updates and additional packages before starting the install
[12:00] <cfhowlett> qiukun, ^^^ true.
[12:00] <qiukun> ririshi: in fact, even plugged in, the installer noticed that it didn't connect to the Internet
[12:00] <cfhowlett> qiukun, but if you specify "I have a connection" and you DO NOT have a connection ...
[12:00] <qiukun> no i choose not to install updates
[12:01] <Ririshi> qiukun, then you should connect to your network
[12:01] <Ririshi> qiukun, you can just open firefox before starting the installation and login onto the network
[12:01] <Ririshi> that way you should have internet and the installer won't complain about you not being connected
[12:01] <qiukun> ririshi: i think this is a bug. do you really suppose a user to know this?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> qiukun, file a bug report then.
[12:02] <qiukun> ok
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !bug | qiukun
[12:02] <Ririshi> qiukun, If your network requires you to login, you should first login... The installer can't do that for you :/
[12:03] <root> hola
[12:03] <Ririshi> qiukun, and because you have no internet connection (because you're nto logged in), the installer will tell you there's no active connection
[12:03] <Ririshi> hello root
[12:03] <Ririshi> or... guestxxxxx
[12:03] <Ririshi> or manuelito
[12:03] <eeee> !it | manuelito
[12:03] <qiukun> ririshi: sorry about my expression. I'm happy about its telling me no active connection
[12:03] <manuelito> q cacso diche
[12:04] <qiukun> ririshi: what hurt me is it still fetch something and give me a black screen
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !it | manuelito
[12:04] <qiukun> when selecting timezone
[12:04] <Ririshi> !es | AndersNilsen
[12:04] <cfhowlett> qiukun, you're booting directly to "install ubuntu"?  YOu can choose "Try ubuntu", start firefox and login.  Then run "install ubuntu"
[12:04] <Ririshi> qiukun, well O,o
[12:04] <qiukun> in fact, if i didn't kick off the cable by accident, i'll never find this
[12:05] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, the problem might be an actual bug
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, noted.
[12:05] <qiukun> cfhowlett: i know i can connect first, my problem is I don't even be warned.
[12:05] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, it looks like the installer is trying to fetch something without a connection (which the installer knows lol) and then gives a black screen
[12:05] <qiukun> ririshi: you get it.
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, qiukun that would be ... buggy
[12:06]  * Ririshi likes to point out the obvious
[12:06] <OnkelTem> Hi all. How to list packages of a specific architecture using dpkg -l?
[12:07] <OnkelTem> For example, I want to list 'skype*' package but it prints 'un'
[12:07] <qiukun> cfhowlett: is a bug report still needed?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> qiukun, only if you're feeling charitably inclined ...
[12:07] <OnkelTem> Looks like Microsoft decided to bad Linux users by releasing 4.3 version of Skype which crashes for so many people
[12:08] <OnkelTem> to ban*\
[12:08] <llutz> OnkelTem: dpkg -l '*:i386'
[12:08] <OnkelTem> llutz: thanks!
[12:09] <qiukun> cfhowlett: well, i'm learning how.
[12:10] <Guest30661> hi
[12:10] <cfhowlett> qiukun, :)
[12:10] <cfhowlett> qiukun, we all are.
[12:10] <derrzzaa> hey guys, quick question. I'm transferring files off a drive with loads of bad sectors, so i'm coming across some errors.
[12:11] <derrzzaa> Does the skip all button, skip ALL the files its transferring, or just the ones with errors?
[12:11] <IdleOne> just the errors
[12:11] <san_> hi
[12:11] <derrzzaa> thanks!
[12:17] <qiukun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357939 the bug report
[12:17] <qiukun> after two years of university life, my english writing is worse.
[12:19] <qiukun> why ubuntu hurts me everytime i'd like to try. last time when i press super key, the last appliction on the launcher bar doesn't get a label to switch to.
[12:19] <qiukun> buggy unity.
[12:19] <compdoc> I learned to like unity
[12:20] <enchilado> I used it for a year or so and... well, I didn't really use it
[12:20] <enchilado> It was there, but I never actually used the dash home thing
[12:20] <dpy> hi guys
[12:20] <qiukun> if the bug will not appear again i'll like unity, too.
[12:21] <qiukun> hi dpy
[12:21] <dpy> what can be wrong if 'start ssh' shows 'ssh start/running, process <pid>' but subsequent ps axuww | grep ssh gives nothing and no sshd is running (manually running /usr/sbin/sshd works like a charm though)
[12:22] <dpy> also I can't find a log for ssh anywhere
[12:26] <Ririshi> Is there anything you'd call the best *forgot this word* (I mean stuff like unity, GNOME, someone think of the word for it for me xP)
[12:27] <eeee> desktop environment?
[12:27] <qiukun> Ririshi: windows
[12:27] <Ririshi> lol
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, DE?  "best" is the one you use
[12:27] <Ririshi> thanks eeee
[12:28] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, I use Unity because I didn't change it...
[12:28] <bekks> Ririshi: There is no "best", since that depends on personal opinions only :)
[12:28] <Ririshi> I'm really used to windows but I've done some stuff on Ubuntu so I know pretty much how it works x)
[12:28] <Ririshi> Is any of you by coincidence an Android developer?
[12:29] <Ririshi> I mean stuff like ROMS
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, www.xdadevelopers.com      is the place for that
[12:30] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, I know, but I was just wondering
[12:30] <Ririshi> I shouldn't be in this channel for OT stuff, sorry x)
[12:35] <qiukun> ririshi: em. people on #ubuntu-cn are talking about sales returning of a router. x)
[12:44] <bavila> hey guys. anyone using ceph with 14.04.1 ?
[12:50] <dan00b_river> Hey all, have a stupid question. I have Win7 + Ubuntu 12.04 installed with Wubi on my laptop. Planning to upgrade to 14.04 - Should I upgrade within Wubi or move Wubi to a separate partition and then upgrade?
[12:51] <bekks> dan00b_river: you cannot move wubi. Reinstalling a clean Ubuntu 14.04 (no wubi) in parallel to your Windows is the best solution.
[12:51] <k1l_> dan00b_river: honestly i would plan to make a real isntall. wubi will break ubuntu and/or windows in some time so better to make a good cut
[12:51] <dan00b_river> Sigh, I was afraid you'd say that. Is there a clean way to migrate my data?
[12:52] <dan00b_river> Also, I made a mistake in the second part of my question. By mving Wubi I meant moving the root.disk to a separate partition...
[12:53] <dan00b_river> ...using this method: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[12:53] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, wubi is not supported on 14.04.  expect pain if you insist on messing with it.
[12:54] <metalcamp> why is wubi no longer supported?
[12:54] <bekks> dan00b_river: you cannot move wubi out of windows, you have to reinstall.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> metalcamp, more trouble than it's worth would be my guess
[12:54] <k1l_> metalcamp: too much mess with the windows basis
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> metalcamp  and too misleading: people thought it was a full install, but it wasnt
[12:55] <dan00b_river> Okay, so the general consensus is I dump wubi like a hot potato. Fair enough. Is there a clean way to migrate my files, settings etc from my existing wubi install?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, get a USB, copy /home to usb and then copy to your new ubuntu /home
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> dan00b_river  copy them to a safe place
[12:56] <dan00b_river> cfhowlett, step 1 of that is already done. Heck, I've backed up the entire root.disk to an external drive, The question is, will it migrate properly to the new install?
[12:57] <bekks> dan00b_river: It will not migrate at all.
[12:57] <bekks> dan00b_river: You have to reinstall.
[12:58] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, I'm with bekks.  assume it will not migrate.  save your essential files and copy them to the new /home.  assume you'll have to reconfigure your settings..
[12:58] <dan00b_river> bekks, I'm confused. Here's what I am planning to do: uninstall wubi from within windows. Reboot into a Xubuntu Live USB. Install Xubuntu & then copy my /home.
[12:58] <bekks> dan00b_river: Thats a complete reinstall and no migration. :)
[12:59] <dan00b_river> Ah, okay. I was using incorrect terminology. My apologies... :)
[13:00] <k1l_> dan00b_river: wubi got a own uninstall script which makes a clean uninstall. i would suggest to use that
[13:00] <bekks> dan00b_river: No problem :)
[13:00] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, 14.04.1 is the current ubuntu release.  get it on torrent. md5sum to verify.  make a USB.  Boot USB.  install.  enjoy.
[13:00] <k1l_> dan00b_river: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[13:02] <sydney> Hi everyone,i am having an issue with my laptop. My laptop will randomly freeze,so i switch to tty1 and i get this mesage:
[13:03] <sydney> No casheing mode page found
[13:03] <sydney> assuming cashe mode write through
[13:03] <sydney> But it never unfreezes :-/
[13:04] <sydney> How do i fix it?
[13:06] <sydney> Iwill be right back
[13:07] <dan00b_river> k1l_ Thanks, reading it now. The ISO is downloaded and I'm ready to take the plunge! Wish me luck! :)
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> dan00b_river  it helps that you're already familiar with the concept and the interface
[13:10] <verses_> should I really upgrade to 14.04?
[13:11] <bekks> verses_: Which release are you on, currently?
[13:11] <verses_> 12.04
[13:12] <verses_> I always prefer lts versions
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> verses_  i'm on 12.04 too, it's supported until... i forget when exactly
[13:12] <verses_> 2018? MonkeyDust
[13:12] <bekks> 2017.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> verses_, you machines.  your decision.  14.04 is now at release .1 so the first wave of bugs have been pretty much fixed ... and it is LTS.
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> 14.04 gave fan problems, my laptop overheated and and shutdown immediately
[13:14] <verses_> the only problem I face in 12.04 is posed by unity - can't switch to 2D.
[13:14] <verses_> unity 2D
[13:14] <cfhowlett> verses_, you can choose other DE 's
[13:15] <sydney> verses_: lxde,xfce,kde,gnome ect...
[13:15] <verses_> yes, I have xsession as well as kde and gnome without effects installed
[13:15] <verses_> xfce*
[13:16] <verses_> but unity is so cool
[13:16] <user472259> greetings! i can't get my mouse to poll 500hz. it use to! https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_Polling_Rate worked until recently
[13:16] <sydney> MonkeyDust: 12.04 will be suported till 2017 :)
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> user472259  that's an arch link... how is your question ubuntu related?
[13:17] <user472259> i'm running an ubuntu based distro. the arch solution worked last year
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> user472259  what ubuntu based distro?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> user472259, what is the output: cat /etc/issue
[13:18] <Sven_vB> i managed to fix a crash in update-manager (missing error handling in ubuntu-support-status) on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS, which is still present in the development branch, so usually i'd open a pull request but they use bzr. is there any chance i can use my git skills to submit it in an easy-to-integrate format? (easier than having to manually apply my patch file)
[13:18] <user472259> i've tried the other ubuntu specific ones at the top of google, with no luck MonkeyDust. it's mint 17
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Sven_vB  are you a developer?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> user472259, not supported here.  ask in mint support
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !mint
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> user472259  mint is not supported here
[13:19] <Sven_vB> MonkeyDust, well, i develop software as part of my job
[13:19]  * cfhowlett wonders why people users come to ubuntu when their OS doesn't provide support.
[13:20] <user472259> they aren't that different. i've been supported just fine here in the past
[13:20] <tuxfan> Hello, what is the minimal space requirement for installing Lubuntu? I can't find the info in the doc;..
[13:20] <cfhowlett> user472259, nevertheless: for mint support use mint channels.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> tuxfan, it'll be about 6 gigs
[13:20] <Sven_vB> user472259, just because some mint problems are inherited from ubuntu, doesn't mean they all are.
[13:21] <Sven_vB> is there a dev channel? tried #ubuntu-dev but it's empty
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Sven_vB, #ubuntu-devel
[13:21] <Sven_vB> thx
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Sven_vB  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:21] <tuxfan> Really? I believed that 6Gigs was the requirement for Ubuntu. Isn't Lubuntu a bit lighter?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> tuxfan  it's lighter, but not smaller
[13:22] <tuxfan> Ok thank you very much!
[13:23] <hultsfret> Hi, I've just installed xubutu 14.04 on a Thinkpad Edge E130, but I have trouble installing my wlan adapter, it's a Realtek:
[13:23] <hultsfret> 03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[13:24] <hultsfret> I can't find info on the net, can anywone point me toward a tutorial?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> hultsfret, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+RTL8188CE&t=canonical
[13:24] <felipe__> Hi, Does anyone knows if its possible to create a live (persistent) ubuntu 14.04 USB stick that will work on a macbook pro (2013, retina, ssd) or can point out where I can find information about it?
[13:24] <morkeleb> Question: Is it possible to get the file explorer in 14.04 (nautilus, I guess?) to behave like it does in Linux Mint? That is, show arrows left of folder names, and let you expand the folders without switching to that folder?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> morkeleb  mint uses nemo, it's not nautilus
[13:25] <arun_> Hi guys how do I convert a Dynamic Partition to Basic in Ubuntu  ?>
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> arun_  you mean logical to primary?
[13:26] <enjoi> aloha
[13:26] <eeee> morkeleb: nautilus does show arrows left of the folder names
[13:26] <arun_> MonkeyDust: nope, Dynamic to Basic/Logical/Primary
[13:26] <eeee> ah, you mean like the side bar ?
[13:27] <eeee> "tree view" ?
[13:27] <morkeleb> Ah, nemo then.
[13:27] <enjoi> Hey, I am trying to run a .JNLP file which seems to keep crashing (The FIVE9 Client) to be specific, I am trying to figure out what the hell keeps preventing it from launching but i'm not quite sure on how to get a log on the bugger, any ideas?  (I tried javaws -verbose) but not sure where the log wound up if even it made one lol
[13:27] <morkeleb> Is it possible to make nemo display the folders like that?
[13:27] <mishravikas> Hi all, I've just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my dell laptop and I cant enable wireless on it, I guess some driver issue but there are no drivers available for ubuntu 14.04 at the dell support, any help?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !wifi | mishravikas
[13:28] <enjoi> mishravikas, have you tried using the ndiswrapper?
[13:28] <morkeleb> eee: Tree view, yes.
[13:28] <mishravikas> enjoi: what is that?
[13:28] <enjoi> is your wireless usb?
[13:28] <enjoi> rather, a usb wireless
[13:29] <mishravikas> enjoi: no it is inbuilt in my laptop
[13:29] <enjoi> ok, so do lspci and find what type of wireless it is
[13:29] <dan00b_river> arun_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692248 says a windows-based partition manager like Partition Wizard or EaseUS should do the trick, since dynamic partitions are a Windows-thing..
[13:29] <enjoi> in terminal "lspci"
[13:29] <dan00b_river> Are you trying to move from a wubi-based 12.04 install to 14.04?
[13:29] <enjoi> find the drivers for that wireless device and use ubuntu software manager to install ndiswrapper
[13:30] <enjoi> this will allow you to install the drivers for your wireless (I believe so anyway)
[13:30] <enjoi> I could be wrong, im giving advice I used in ubu 10 lol
[13:30] <arun_> dan00b3: ok dude thanks
[13:30] <mishravikas> enjoi: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6023061
[13:31] <dan00b_river> arun_: YW, be careful though. That link is 3 years old..
[13:31] <felipe__> Hi, Does anyone knows if its possible to create a live (persistent) ubuntu 14.04 USB stick that will work on a macbook pro (2013, retina, ssd) or can point out where I can find information about it?
[13:31] <morkeleb> Hm. No nemo in my Ubuntu 14.04. nautilus is installed and in use, though.
[13:31] <enjoi> yep there she is mishravikas --> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[13:31] <enjoi> :)
[13:31] <eeee> morkeleb: nemo is mint's file manager, it uses what you mean, nautilus is ubuntu's it doesn't, however if you go to the preferences > display > navigate folders in a tree, it does that but itll be in the main folder window, and you'd have to be viewing it as a list
[13:31] <enjoi> one sec
[13:32] <arun_> dan00b3: ok man
[13:32] <mishravikas> enjoi: where do I find its driver? as in the dell support only ubuntu 12.04 drivers are available
[13:32] <zhi>  
[13:32] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, fwiw: nemo is in the universe repo
[13:33] <enjoi> mishravikas, it looks like this issue was solved here :) -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190930
[13:33] <eeee> morkeleb: i don't think you can have it in the sidebar though, might be wrong
[13:33] <enjoi> <3
[13:34] <leeyaa> hello
[13:34] <leeyaa> when configuring postfix to use saslauthd and pam who creates the file /etc/pam.d/smtp.conf ?
[13:34] <morkeleb> I found it. It's disabled by default, but can be enabled in Preference.
[13:35] <enjoi> mishravikas, or you could take the easy way, and download the ndiswrapper from the ubuntu software center and download the windows drivers from here (http://www.driverscape.com/download/qualcomm-atheros-qca9565-802.11b-g-n-wifi-adapter)
[13:35] <enjoi> hope this helps my friend <3
[13:35] <enjoi> :)
[13:35] <mishravikas> enjoi:the earlier link was for ubuntu 12.04
[13:35] <mishravikas> enjoi: windows driver would work in it?
[13:36] <enjoi> mishravikas, yes it will, this is what ndiswrapper is for :)
[13:37] <morkeleb> cfhowlett: Not sure why, but in my recently installed 14.04 64-bit, nautilus is used instead of nemo.
[13:37] <[Ex0r]> ive got postfix installed via apt-get, and I can't relay mail to remote addresses. How do I change and fix this ?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, nautilus is default UBUNTU.  nemo is not.
[13:38] <mishravikas> enjoi: ok nice, and is there something similar for amd graphics card as well? as when I go to additional hardware secrtions and activate proprietory driver for the graphics card I get a black sceen in next boot and I have to delete the driver from the command line mode
[13:39] <eeee> morkeleb: what cfhowlett meant was that if you want to install nemo it is in the universe repository ( which you have to enable, if you haven't already)
[13:39] <sydney> Ihave a question My lubuntu install will randomly freeze,and i switch to tty1,and the message: No casheing mode page found, Assuming cashe mode write through.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, as eeee said.  I could have expressed myself more clearly.  sorry.
[13:40] <dan00b_river> Impromptu Poll: What are you using? Ubuntu? Lubuntu? Xubuntu? Other? Any specific reason?
[13:41] <ses1984> i'm getting some really weird graphical glitches in ubuntu 14.04, especially using firefox
[13:41] <ses1984> if i switch tabs, the firefox window will rapidly flash back and forth between the current tab and previous tab
[13:41] <yanwei> #new
[13:41] <ses1984> i tried installing a different graphics driver and that hasn't fixed the problem
[13:43] <Nexus3> Hello - Is anyone into LAN bonding ?
[13:44] <morkeleb> No problem. I could've done a bit more research first too hehe :_)
[13:44] <Sven_vB> anyone wanna submit my patch and take the fame for fixing ubuntu-support-status?
[13:45] <verses_> yea might but I dont know bzr
[13:46] <sydney> ses1984:Is it only in firefox,or is it in another browser as well?
[13:47] <[Ex0r]> Is there somebody here who can help me with a ubuntu-postfix issue im having ?
[13:47] <verses_> ls
[13:48] <sydney> ses1984:if it only happens in firefox,you might get better support in #firefox
[13:48] <ses1984> sydney: firefox seems to cause it to happen the worst/most consistently but it happens in any program, firefox or not
[13:48] <ses1984> i mean browser or not
[13:48] <sydney> oh
[13:49] <ses1984> it seems like this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1288747
[13:49] <eeee> [Ex0r]: try /join #postfix
[13:49] <ses1984> well shit
[13:49] <cfhowlett> ses1984, if it's related to that bug, that bug is still open.  nothing we can do here.
[13:49] <[Ex0r]> eeee- I did, they told me they can't help because the ubuntu postfix has a different configuration than standard postfix and wont give me support
[13:50] <ses1984> yeah i just found the bug report
[13:51] <ses1984> so there are some fixes recommended in the comments but i'm not sure how to try to apply them
[13:51] <ses1984> i tried downloading the nvidia prop driver, which worked ok, but now i want to switch back to the default and i can't seem to use the software & updates window to do that
[13:51] <ses1984> under additional drivers tab i can only "continue using a manually installed driver" and other options are grayed out
[13:52] <sydney> hmm
[13:54] <kurain> I am trying autopilot, but I can't find the samples showing how to call slots of qt's class
[13:54] <ses1984> ok here's another question, trying to fix my problem from another angle. it seems like the problem i'm having is some kind of compiz problem
[13:55] <kurain> I need some help, will some please give me a hand?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !help | kurain
[13:55] <ses1984> can i set up a unity-like desktop without using compiz?
[13:55] <ses1984> i like the launcher and the i'm used to the keyboard shortcuts
[13:55] <ses1984> i don't seem to have these problems in xfce/xubuntu but that environment is very different
[13:57] <Daghdha> Hi, i get http://www.two-sided.com/fifa/fookme.png when i run the upgrade. How SLOW will it be? Because i am rarely on the desktop anyway
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Daghdha, simple fix: don't run unity.  you have many options
[13:58] <sydney> Daghdha:its hard to say...
[13:58] <sebastien_> hi there ! i have a problem with a kernel update, could anyone help me please? :)
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | sebastien_
[14:01] <morkeleb> Q: In previous versions, I could find this app: System > Administration > Disk Utility   - how do I do this in 14.04, where I have to search for everything? Searching for "Disk utility" in Applications yields nothing...
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> morkeleb  isnt it called baobab?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, boot up an ubuntu USB
[14:03] <morkeleb> ah thanks :-)
[14:03] <compdoc> morkeleb, I just type 'disk' in the search box and a few things pop up
[14:04] <Daghdha> ok.. i' just do it
[14:04] <sebastien_> well i did an update, but it seems that some pakages are broken. some about kernel (linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-generic-pae). I tried sudo apt-get -f install, as the error message told me, but nothing changed
[14:04] <cfhowlett> sebastien_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:04] <bekks> sebastien_: So can you pastebin the entire error message please and provide the URL?
[14:07] <bekks> !pastebin | sebastien_
[14:08] <ses1984> is there any way i can force reset my graphics driver situation to what it would be like in a clean install
[14:08] <anton> help as anyone got a working smb.cof for plex media server
[14:09] <sebastien_> well actually i found a french channel about ubuntu, i think it will be easier for me to explain my problem and get help. thanks for all
[14:10] <DexterSkull> can anyone tell me why does ubuntu show "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" error while booting?
[14:11] <iSaleK> Hello guys. I have compiled Wine but now I have problems configuring it?
[14:12] <iSaleK> I had to recompile wine to apply patch to run Altium Designer. Now compile passed, I have Wine32 dir but I don't know how to configure it?
[14:13] <DexterSkull> please tell me ehy ubuntu shows this error while booting:"serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /"?
[14:13] <enjoi> ubuntu! wee WEE!
[14:13] <enjoi> hehe, sorry I had to
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !patience | DexterSkull,
[14:13] <trijntje> DexterSkull: because there were serious errors
[14:13] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, usually a sign of errors
[14:13] <DexterSkull> ubottu, okay
[14:13] <Guest19484> brother can i ask u something
[14:14] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, of which kind
[14:14] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, could be hardware or software.
[14:14] <Guest19484> i just install linuxmint qiana. what does the registration number use for??and how i can get it
[14:15] <bekks> !mint | Guest19484
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !mint | Guest19484,
[14:15] <Guest19484> yes mint bekss
[14:15] <bekks> Guest19484: Yes, it is not supported in here.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> Guest19484, mint is not supported here.  go to !linuxmint-help
[14:15] <Guest19484> ooopss sory
[14:16] <enjoi> by chance anyone know how to log an issue in java?
[14:16] <enjoi> and please, dont tell me to ask in that chan, because I just did
[14:16] <enjoi> and they just claimed them selves as non tech support
[14:16] <enjoi> I just want to know how to output a log for this jnlp file fucking up so I can fix it
[14:16] <enjoi> in ubuntu 14..
[14:16] <cfhowlett> enjoi, profanity.  no.  stop.
[14:16] <ikonia> enjoi: there is no need for the language
[14:17] <enjoi> lol ok
[14:17] <ikonia> I'm not laughing
[14:17] <enjoi> sorry I live in america, its how we talk
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | enjoi,
[14:17] <ikonia> no it's not
[14:17] <enjoi> you have not been to NY then
[14:17] <enjoi> =)
[14:17] <IdleOne> Just stop swearing and get back to support
[14:17] <ikonia> I know many americans that can talk without swearing - please try better
[14:17] <cfhowlett> enjoi, follow the rules or get support elsewhere
[14:17] <enjoi> ok ok, sorry :)
[14:18] <enjoi> Anyway, is there a way I can output a log file for running a .jnlp file?
[14:18] <enjoi> This is getting a little frustrating trying to fix
[14:18] <nsh> how do i make all the fucking cancer fuck off and get an actually utilitarian window manager, xfce4 or something?
[14:18] <ni1s> I'm running a amd64 system, is it possible to tell Ubuntu to always install a packages i386 version too?
[14:18] <ikonia> ni1s: that's not wise
[14:18] <cfhowlett> nsh, stop the profanity.  now.
[14:18] <nsh> apt-get DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE compviz unity-desktop something something?
[14:18] <iSaleK> I had to recompile wine to apply patch to run Altium Designer. Now compile passed, I have Wine32 dir but I don't know how to configure it to create c:\ folder and other configuration?
[14:18] <enjoi> lol
[14:19] <enjoi> hes from america too I suppose
[14:19] <Liammmz> Hey guys
[14:19] <enjoi> heya Liammmz
[14:19] <enjoi> we're guys and gals in here
[14:19] <Liammmz> Hows it gonig
[14:19] <enjoi> (I think)
[14:19] <enjoi> not bad :P
[14:19] <[nsh]> don't push your fucking luck, son.
[14:19] <ses1984> in my software and updates settings, under additional drivers, i see a few greyed options and "continue using a manually installed driver." that's the only option i have,
[14:19] <enjoi> oh goodness
[14:19] <enjoi> nsh, its over lol
[14:19] <[nsh]> again how to remove unity desktop and compviz and install something better?
[14:19] <enjoi> oh, hes just msging the chan
[14:19] <ses1984> well, i don't want to continue using a manually installed driver. i want to go back to system managed. how can i do this?
[14:19] <ni1s> ikonia, im tireed of hunting for the :i386 packages
[14:19] <enjoi> lol
[14:20] <cfhowlett> [nsh], you can kicked too.  stop the profanity
[14:20] <[nsh]> this distraction from my question is over.
[14:20] <ikonia> ni1s: what do you mean "hunting"
[14:20] <enjoi> [nsh], look they removed me for cursing too, simply put I stopped
[14:20] <enjoi> dont be a noob, just deal with no cursing
[14:20] <enjoi> unless its ncurses!
[14:20] <enjoi> (zing!)
[14:21] <Liammmz> Ubuntu is as bad as windows, You must reboot, you must reboot
[14:21] <enjoi> bad pun? lol
[14:21] <ikonia> Liammmz: there are certain software components in any os that will require a reboot
[14:21] <Liammmz> I know that :P
[14:21] <enjoi> whoa
[14:21] <ikonia> Liammmz: right, so complaining about it won't change anything
[14:21] <enjoi> Liammmz.....
[14:21] <enjoi> you just hurt my feeling
[14:21] <Liammmz> It might, Ya never know
[14:21] <enjoi> I love ubuntu
[14:21] <asshurt> hey guys
[14:22] <Liammmz> So do I
[14:22] <enjoi> oh look, his real name!
[14:22] <Liammmz> O.o
[14:22] <enjoi> not you
[14:22] <enjoi> I think thats nsh
[14:22] <enjoi> lol
[14:22] <cfhowlett> asshurt, change your nick please
[14:22] <sydney> !offtopic
[14:22] <asshurt> why would I change my nick?
[14:22] <asshurt> it's my handle
[14:22] <enjoi> asshurt, it goes against our rules of profanity here
[14:23] <asshurt> my pseudonym
[14:23] <enjoi> could you be a cool dude and just change it plz man?
[14:23] <enjoi> only temp while you are in here
[14:23] <cfhowlett> asshurt, change it or get support elsewhere.
[14:23] <asshurt> no
[14:23] <enjoi> well, then bye
[14:23] <asshurt> i need lunix help
[14:23] <enjoi> too bad
[14:23] <enjoi> so sad
[14:23] <enjoi> go somewhere else
[14:23] <maiz> how get the cloak as i sing
[14:23] <asshurt> you're denying me lunix help because of my nick?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | asshurt
[14:23] <maiz> how get the cloak as i sign
[14:23] <ikonia> maiz: ask in freenode
[14:23] <ikonia> maiz: #freenode
[14:23] <enjoi> asshurt, you know who wont deny you help because of your nick? (google)
[14:23] <asshurt> maiz: cloak is done
[14:23] <ikonia> guys, calm down
[14:24] <asshurt> but i have very specific questions about unity
[14:24] <ses1984> ok this is really messed up, in whatever driver i have now, i can't ctrl-alt-f# to even get another terminal, i just get a black screen instead
[14:24] <cfhowlett> are there any ubuntu support issues needing attention?
[14:24] <asshurt> the greatest wm  ever
[14:24] <enjoi> well, thats too bad, you wont get help until you change your name
[14:24] <maiz> wonder then as
[14:24] <enjoi> plain and simple
[14:24] <asshurt> never
[14:24] <enjoi> then bye
[14:24] <sydney> Asa question :)ndari:just ask your
[14:25] <sydney> asshurt: Just ask your question :)
[14:25] <sydney> typo :P
[14:25] <maiz> please please can you help me
[14:25] <enjoi> oh, so now you can change the policy
[14:25] <maiz> with this
[14:26] <asshurt> so I was wondering why I can't get this site to work on ubuntu lunix http://gnaa.eu/
[14:26] <cfhowlett> maiz, ask #freenode
[14:26] <maiz> then how ask
[14:26] <cfhowlett> maiz, go to #freenode.  ask them.
[14:26] <enjoi> hm, oddly enough, lightning struck just as you banned him
[14:26] <sydney> maiz: /join #freenode
[14:26] <enjoi> that was pretty cool lol
[14:27] <ikonia> enjoi: it would be really helpful if you could drop the commentary
[14:27] <ikonia> enjoi: focus on your issue - nothing more
[14:27] <enjoi> i'm waiting for a reply, nothing more
[14:27] <enjoi> don't be so uptight please
[14:27] <enjoi> relax
[14:27] <enjoi> breathe....
[14:27] <ikonia> enjoi: please wait quietly then
[14:27] <cfhowlett> enjoi, stop now.
[14:27] <maiz> im there on that chanel
[14:28] <sydney> maiz:ok,then ask your question to them
[14:28] <cfhowlett> maiz, for UBUNTU support, ask here.
[14:28] <enjoi> I come here often and help others when I can, I would appreciate if you pull whatever the "eff" is stuck in your "a" today and lighten up, no one likes mods that abuse power because they feel they can rule the world
[14:29] <fevas4> hey, can anybody help me with an NFS issue? I have two virtually identical shares from the same server to the same client, but after mounting one can only be read by root and the other has 777 perms, here's a few more details (my /etc/exports and /etc/fstab files): http://paste.ubuntu.com/8071710/
[14:29] <iSaleK> How can I add newly compiled wine as Ubuntu App? So I can configure it with wine tricks and winecfg?
[14:29] <M1LIAM> Back
[14:31] <sydney> ttyl
[14:31] <EmEhRKay> I just setup ubuntu server 14.04 with vagrant/virtualbox and I cannot get to anything that is hosted with it from the host machine. I turned off firewall via ufw, hosted a simple python http server, tired other services. Things are running showing up in netstat, i can even do lynx and bring it up. Am I missing a firewall setting or something?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> EmEhRKay, if no response here: ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:32] <EmEhRKay> I’ve set up centos and after turning off its firewall things work as expected
[14:32] <EmEhRKay> thanks
[14:32] <bekks> EmEhRKay: Are you using NAT as networking mode for your vm?
[14:32] <EmEhRKay> bekks: i am
[14:33] <EmEhRKay> should i change to bridge?
[14:33] <bekks> EmEhRKay: yes.
[14:33] <EmEhRKay> ill try, thanks
[14:34] <ruslan_osmanov> hi, `xev` doesn't recognize Fn+F5 and Fn+F6 (brightness down/up). How do I fix it?
[14:34] <M1LIAM> O.o I broke it
[14:35] <bekks> ruslan_osmanov: you cant fix that, because those keys are mapped via hardware directly.
[14:37] <DexterSkull> please tell me, if you know the right answer, why "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" error shows up while booting ubuntu. last time i had quit as i had to go somewhere.
[14:37] <maiz> who helps me
[14:37] <cfhowlett> maiz, ask your ubuntu question
[14:37]  * ObrienDave readies the snarky cannon
[14:37] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, please answer mine.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, restate the question ...
[14:38] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, got it
[14:38] <DexterSkull> why "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" error shows up while booting ubuntu.
[14:38] <maiz> how as I can get the cloak within #freenode
[14:38] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, I'm in xubuntu but I THINK ubuntu has a smart disk monitor app?  Check your HDD with that
[14:39] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, if it's a hardware issue, prepare to replace the HDD.
[14:39] <fabiobik> hello guys. I want to encrypt hole disk using pgp keys. what is the best software to do it?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !pgp
[14:40] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, this i the very first i'm using ubuntu. can you tell me how to use that thing?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> HDD shows error during boot.  How to check this in ubuntu 14.04?  re: dexterskull
[14:42] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, i don't think there's some problem with my HDD.
[14:42] <trijntje> gnome-disk can read out smart data
[14:42] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, this ^^^
[14:43] <daftykins> DexterSkull: well it's best to be sure, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools"
[14:43] <daftykins> DexterSkull: then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and share the link here
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !info smartctl
[14:43] <daftykins> the package is smartmontools.
[14:43] <bekks> !info smartmon-tools
[14:44] <daftykins> no hyphen
[14:44] <bekks> !info smartmontools
[14:44] <bekks> :)
[14:44] <sanga> ciao
[14:44] <sanga> !list
[14:44] <daftykins> you know it's gonna be a great user when the first thing they do is what the topic says not to
[14:44] <sanga> exit
[14:44] <sanga> quit
[14:44] <sanga> !quit
[14:44] <daftykins> you need a leading /
[14:45] <daftykins> so /quit
[14:45] <sanga> 7quit
[14:45] <daftykins> =|
[14:45] <fabiobik> cfhowlett, do you use hd encript?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> fabiobik, no. dexterskull is having the issues,.
[14:45] <daftykins> DexterSkull: are you running the above...
[14:52]  * ObrienDave will never understand why people want to encrypt entire drives. smh
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> Hello
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> I'm new in ubuntu
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> I have a problem with compile in codeblocks
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> the terminal closes too fast
[14:55] <DiegoFernando> Hello :(
[14:56] <Ririshi> Be patient my friend.
[14:56] <ObrienDave> you have been seen
[14:56]  * Ririshi is always impatient...
[14:57] <WLM> ubottu
[14:57] <WLM> !ubottu
[14:58] <DiegoFernando> :(
[14:58] <DiegoFernando> ok i wall wait :)
[15:03] <Ririshi> semi-self-replicating device O.o
[15:03] <Ririshi> Ubottu is one of thsoe
[15:03] <Ririshi> Intelligent enough, ubottu x)
[15:04] <k1l_> DiegoFernando: can you describe what the error is or give some error messages?
[15:05] <Langley> Help, I just installed Ubuntu but on first boot its already dead. "Gave up waiting for root device" and then a looot of stuff
[15:06] <BammBamm> If i accidentally copy my MBR to an usbsitck how do i copy that back?
[15:06] <Ririshi> that's something with the bootloader right?
[15:06] <BammBamm> i think so
[15:07] <BammBamm> Ririshi: U talkng to me?
[15:07] <subz3r0> BammBamm: dd
[15:07] <Ririshi> no sorry BammBamm x)
[15:07] <BammBamm> subz3r0: not on a linux os
[15:07] <subz3r0> does not matter
[15:08] <BammBamm> subz3r0: its window
[15:08] <cfhowlett> Langley, just for fun, pretend that the error messages you see actually mean something helpful in terms of solving the issue.  Got it?  Good.  Now pretend that no one can read or your mind or see the messages YOU can see on YOUR computer.  So if you don't TELL us the error messages ...
[15:08] <subz3r0> BammBamm: it does not matter from which OS the MBR is
[15:09] <BammBamm> subz3r0: SURE, but im pretty sure i don't have a DD command anywhere.
[15:09] <Langley> Gave up waiting for root device. Commong problems:
[15:09] <Langley> - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
[15:09] <Ririshi> Langley, do you have an initramfs input prompt to type in there?
[15:09] <Langley> Ririshi: I have, but unable to type anything
[15:09] <Ririshi> hmm
[15:10] <BammBamm> subz3r0: if you point me in the right direction ....
[15:10] <subz3r0> BammBamm: and where is the problem? use a live usb stick
[15:10] <Ririshi> Langley, just type in "exit" and press enter (no clue if it'll work but just try)
[15:10] <BammBamm> subz3r0: that stick is 1.0 and sloooooooooooooow
[15:10] <BammBamm> i have only 3 usb ports
[15:10] <subz3r0> BammBamm: ...
[15:10] <subz3r0> #windows
[15:11] <BammBamm> nooooohoooo
[15:11] <BammBamm> they are stupid
[15:11] <BammBamm> all of them
[15:11] <BammBamm> not kidding
[15:11] <Langley> Ririshi: Nothing happens
[15:11] <BammBamm> subz3r0: Their idea of solving problems is: buy a new computer
[15:11] <Ririshi> Langley,  :/
[15:11] <subz3r0> http://sourceforge.net/projects/windd/
[15:12] <UltimaKR> Hi guys...I am trying to retrieve data from a friend's IDE drive, but when I run fdisk it seems as though the drive has 0 partitions. I am told that it does not boot properly, but that it does have data on it. Can anyone help me with this?
[15:12] <BammBamm> subz3r0: please don't make me go there! ;)
[15:12] <k1l_> BammBamm: dont use a OS if you dont like how the community runs the support. then please dont force us to make you remind that this is a ubuntu support.
[15:12] <ses1984> when i hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal, i just get a black screen instead
[15:12] <Ririshi> Langley, Try fixing your GRUB installation using this link: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[15:12] <subz3r0> UltimaKR: first make a backup of the device. use the backup for invetigating the issue. like clone the disk with dd
[15:12] <Langley> Error: http://pastebin.com/W9SK6byt
[15:12] <BammBamm> in general, ubuntus are helpful beyond their os
[15:13] <UltimaKR> subz3r0: i tried running dd and ddrescue, but each time I got various I/O errors
[15:13] <k1l_> BammBamm: and this channel is for technical ubuntu support. so please keep it clear for ubuntu users who need help. thanks
[15:13] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, i/o = a failing drive ...
[15:14] <k1l_> UltimaKR: i/o errors mean there is something wrong on the hardware side
[15:14] <UltimaKR> cfhowlett: I figured as much, but before it completely dies (it powers on and has like a little click as it runs) I was hoping to try and recover stuff
[15:14] <UltimaKR> k1l: Yeah that is what I assumed, is this a fixable issue or do I tell the friend to spend $10 and buy another drive off ebay?
[15:15] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, there is a forensics channel .  for starters, stop using the disk immediately.
[15:15] <k1l_> UltimaKR: you could try with dd_rescue. but there is some point where the hardware cant even handle that anymore
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !msg alis *forensic
[15:15] <UltimaKR> cfhowlett: Oh im sorry I didn't know that channel existed. I am not using the disk at all...I just plugged it in to the spare IDE cable to test ddrescue
[15:16] <k1l_> UltimaKR: if its important data keep that drive off the power and get a forensics specialists on it. if not: dump it and get a new one
[15:16] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, disconnect it until you have a plan in place.  or so says ever factoid I've read on this matter.  trying to find the channel now
[15:16] <UltimaKR> Alright then, thanks a lot guys. I guess I will tell my friend the bad news.
[15:17] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, there are data recovery service$   ...
[15:17] <ObrienDave> usually very expensive
[15:18] <c3l> How do I turn off my display (from the command line, it's a laptop), so that it does not reactivate when I press a key or move the mouse (as is the case for "xset dpms force off"). But I want to be able to turn on the screen again from the command line. Does anyone know?
[15:20] <Langley> Ririshi: That's an insane procedure, I'll try installing it again first..
[15:20] <Ririshi> Langley, what's so insane about it?
[15:21] <Ririshi> it's just accessing through cd > install, recheck, update...
[15:21] <Langley> Long and complicated
[15:21] <Ririshi> Langley, what are you going to install again
[15:21] <Ririshi> Langley, grub?
[15:21] <Langley> I mean that the grub repair instructions are long
[15:21] <Langley> I'll try reinstalling ubuntu again instead
[15:22] <Ririshi> Langley, well.. alright
[15:26] <no_gravity> Hello! In this launcher thing on the left of unity - how can I edit the command that is run when I click on one of the items?
[15:26] <Langley> Reinstalling didnt help... urgh..
[15:27] <trijntje> no_gravity: use the program alacarte to create a custom launcher
[15:27] <fabiobik> hello guys. I want to encrypt hole disk using pgp keys. what is the best software to do it?
[15:28] <no_gravity> trijntje: i already have a launcher
[15:30] <no_gravity> And by the way... is there a way to get a taskbar in unity?
[15:32] <nuby> hey all!
[15:32] <dannixon> no_gravity: The bar is techically the task bar
[15:32] <no_gravity> dannixon: ok, but it sucks.
[15:32] <no_gravity> dannixon: i forced myself to have ubuntu 14 on one of my machines for two months now to see if i get used to it. but it kills me to not have a taskbar.
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  install a DE with a taskbar below
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  LXDE has a taskbar
[15:34] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: there is no taskbar for unity?
[15:34] <nuby> does anyone have any tips on how to remap windows_key+left to be home and win_key+right to be end?
[15:34] <trijntje> no_gravity: yes, but you want to change the command right? So you have to make a new launcher with another command
[15:34] <no_gravity> trijntje: why can't i change the command of an existing launcher?
[15:34] <k1l_> no_gravity: the unity launcher shows the opened programs = taskbar
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  yes, but it's on the left and you don't like that
[15:35] <no_gravity> k1l_, MonkeyDust: ok, so i will have to switch to some other desktop.
[15:35] <trijntje> no_gravity: you can, its just more hassle. Look for the existing launchers in /usr/share/applications, copy the one you want to ~/.local/share/applications, and edit it to make the changes you want
[15:35] <k1l_> no_gravity: you are free to use another desktop enviroment. unity will not enable to change the location of that bar
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[15:36] <arielwinter> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and my Thinkpad x220. The mouse pointer gets jumpy using the trackpad, but I don't seem to have this problem on other distros and Xubuntu right out of the box. Anyone knows a solution to this?
[15:36] <no_gravity> trijntje: there is nothing in /usr/share/applications/
[15:36] <k1l_> MonkeyDust: no_gravity that is the new version of that desktop compariosn: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[15:36] <no_gravity> trijntje: oh, there is...
[15:37] <Langley> How do I know the name of my root partition?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  looks great
[15:38] <OerHeks> k1l_, nice overview
[15:38] <no_gravity> So whats a gnome2 like DE? cinnamon?
[15:38] <trijntje> Langley: what do you mean with name of the root partition
[15:38] <m100> no_gravity: MATE
[15:39] <Langley> trijntje: I need to do a "$ sudo fsck /dev/sda5" but replace sda5 with whatever my root partition is
[15:39] <no_gravity> m100: its not in the repos, right?
[15:39] <k1l_> no_gravity: cinnamon or mate from the mint community. but honestly both got some real issues and i would suggest to take a look at lubuntu
[15:39] <trijntje> Langley: type mount in a terminal
[15:39] <OerHeks> no_gravity, mate is removed in 14.04 but will return in 14.10
[15:39] <trijntje> check the line that has / as mountpoint
[15:40] <fevas4> Hi, I have an issue with NFS. I have two virtually identical shares from the same server to the same client. However after mounting, one has perms 777 and the other 000, I want non-root to be able to read both. Here's a few config details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8072202/ - Anybody have any ideas as to what might be causing the different perms?
[15:40] <Langley> Guess its sdb1 then..
[15:40] <no_gravity> k1l_: so how can i switch to mate or cinnamon in ubuntu?
[15:40] <k1l_> !info mate
[15:40] <k1l_> !info cinnamon
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  install it, logout, switch, login
[15:41] <m100> I think you need a PPA
[15:41] <Langley> How do I unmount it?
[15:41] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: how do i install it?
[15:41] <Langley> Nevermind..
[15:41] <m100> no_gravity: Google MATE desktop.
[15:41] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: something like "deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/archive/1.8/ubuntu trusty main" and then apt-get it?
[15:41] <k1l_> no_gravity: cinnamon got removed from the ubuntu repos due to issues with the gnome base
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  if it's in the repos: with apt-get, otherwise you need a ppa or so
[15:42] <trijntje> Langley: you cant unmount /, you'll have to start from a live usb/dvd to check root fro errors
[15:42] <k1l_> !info mate-desktop | no_gravity
[15:42] <trijntje> Langley: unless its possible to check a partition while it is in use, but I don't think thats possible
[15:42] <no_gravity> k1l_: what does that mean?
[15:43] <k1l_> no_gravity: mate is in the repos. cinnamon got kicked.
[15:43] <no_gravity> k1l_: ok, so how do i install mate?
[15:43] <Langley> trijntje: It was from a live USB. Restarting now to see if it fixed it
[15:43] <k1l_> install that package i linked
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
[15:44] <no_gravity> k1l_: you linked something?
[15:44] <Langley> Nope, it didnt..
[15:44] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: ok, will try that.
[15:44] <k1l_> no_gravity: "<k1l_> !info mate-desktop | no_gravity "
[15:44] <turbidity> hello people, can you recommend me a web browser on ubuntu, aside from firefox?
[15:44] <k1l_> if you demand things like you did i expect you to at least keep up with the ansers given
[15:45] <no_gravity> k1l_: i dont understand that. i understand "apt-get install mate-desktop" though. so i will go with that.
[15:45] <k1l_> turbidity: there are several, did you try chromium
[15:45] <winem> turbidity: try midory if you are just looking for a simple web browser without tons of useless add ons and other overhead
[15:45] <winem> sorry, midori
[15:46] <turbidity> k1l_ I had frequent freezes as I used chromium, so deinstalled it
[15:46] <winem> it uses duck duck go as default search engine :)
[15:46] <turbidity> I dont know it had to do with it, though. but the freezes are less now
[15:47] <turbidity> winem, I'd used midori a long while ago, last time it crashed very often, and I deinstalled
[15:48] <knightshade> What's wrong with Firefox?
[15:48] <turbidity> knightshade, do you refer to my question?
[15:48] <knightshade> Yes
[15:48] <winem> I didn't even know that it's able to crash... lots of crashes on different browser (chromium, midori) sound like you have an issue with some other hard-/software or you should visit other websites...
[15:48] <turbidity> firefox I already use. I mean to install a second browser
[15:49] <trijntje> Langley: ah, in that case the root of the live usb will be mounted as root, so you tried to check the wrong partition
[15:49] <orb> Is compiz still available? I think that's what it was called.
[15:49] <knightshade> turbidity: Why do you want to install a second browser?
[15:49] <turbidity> winem, you gave me a good laugh by saying 'didn't even know that it's able to crash' , thank you! :D
[15:49] <trijntje> Langley: run mount from the actual system to see what root is, and then you can check the drive from the live system.
[15:49] <no_gravity> Hmm.. I installed mate-desktop, I logged out .. now what? When I log in I still see unity.
[15:50] <turbidity> knightshade, it is a question like 'why do you want to use two operating systems on your computer?'
[15:50] <lawltoad> Is there a way to strip window decoration (titlebars) in ubuntu/gtk3-themes/unity?
[15:50] <k1l_> turbidity: i think we cant help you do decide. if you have a technical issue we can try to solve that but if every just names his favorit brwoser its not gonna help
[15:50] <Langley> trijntje: The problem is, it wont boot. "Gave up waiting for for root device"
[15:51] <ObrienDave> no_gravity, at the login screen, upper right, there is a drop down menu to select DEs
[15:51] <k1l_> no_gravity: you need to choose that on the login screen
[15:51] <Langley> Ririshi: Okay, repairing grub didnt help either.
[15:51] <trijntje> Langley: in that case, check gparted from the live system, you should be able to tell which partition is your root
[15:51] <knightshade> turbidity: No, I just want to know why you think that you need two different browsers.
[15:51] <turbidity> k1l_ I can clarify..except for chromium or midori, is there any reliable one?
[15:51] <no_gravity> ObrienDave: i don't see that. how does it look like?
[15:51] <winem> turbidity: you can use private sessions (ctrl + shift + p) in firefox if you want to use 2 browsers to avoid caching issues for example
[15:51] <Langley> trijntje: I dont even know what to do anymore. Any ideas?
[15:52] <Langley> Error is this http://pastebin.com/W9SK6byt
[15:52] <turbidity> knightshade, it has some conveniences
[15:52] <turbidity> not hard to imagine
[15:52] <winem> opera?
[15:52] <no_gravity> k1l_: i do not see anything where i could choose the DE on the login screen.
[15:52] <ObrienDave> no_gravity, i don't know what the Unitu logo looks like. click things ;P
[15:52] <Ririshi> Langley, Damn :/
[15:52] <no_gravity> ObrienDave: i clicked like mad already :)
[15:52] <ObrienDave> *Unity
[15:52] <k1l_> no_gravity: click on the gear thingy
[15:52] <trijntje> Langley: looks like it cant find your root partition, did you change anything before this happened?
[15:52] <nuby> Hey everyone, any chance anoyone here can give me some tips on how to use xmodmap to set super+left to be home and super+right to be end?
[15:52] <Ririshi> Langley, So you tried reinstalling Ubuntu and repairing GRUB?
[15:53] <Langley> trijntje: It is directly after installation of ubuntu
[15:53] <Langley> Ririshi: Yes
[15:53] <no_gravity> k1l_: the gear thingy only has "suspend" and "shut down"
[15:53] <trijntje> Langley: after a fresh install, first time booting?
[15:53] <Langley> trijntje: Yes
[15:53] <turbidity> anyway, thank you for all your responses. I will go for 'try and see'
[15:53] <lawltoad> winem, turbidity, for that use case I usually use chromium-browser --user-data-dir=$(tempfile -d /tmp/)
[15:53] <trijntje> Langley: then I'd guess somehting went wrong with the installation, just try installing again
[15:53] <Ririshi> trijntje, it looks like GRUB can't find the mount point for root..
[15:53] <lawltoad> it opens op a new "user" each time ^_^
[15:54] <Langley> trijntje: Already tried that
[15:54] <Langley> Maybe I'll try install without updates..
[15:54] <winem> lawltoad: thanks for the tip. might be helpful when testing some websites or applications
[15:54] <k1l_> no_gravity: *sigh* then press the ubuntu icon. it is really obvious to me what to press here: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NQqlechZtbQ/Umlx9GS2Y7I/AAAAAAAAFcw/ENLRz97Kp-E/s1000/mac-2-login.jpg
[15:54] <fevas4> Hi, I have an issue with NFS. I have two virtually identical shares from the same server to the same client. However after mounting, one has perms 777 and the other 000, I want non-root to be able to read both. Here's a few config details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8072202/ - Anybody have any ideas as to what might be causing the different perms?
[15:54] <trijntje> Langley: try booting into live system, 'try ubuntu without installing', go into grub, and remove the linux and swap partition, and then start the installer
[15:55] <trijntje> it should detect the empty space on the disk, and offer to install there, and it will make all required partitions for you
[15:55] <no_gravity> k1l_: i dont have that icon
[15:55] <trijntje> Langley: also, when the usb is just booting, hold shift and check the disk for defects
[15:55] <no_gravity> k1l_: would make a screenshot if that would be possible in the login screen...
[15:55] <Langley> I'm pretty sure the SSD doesnt have any defects
[15:56] <trijntje> Langley: that checks the live usb, to see if it has all the required files
[15:56] <anton> has anyone got a copy of there samba smb.conf file with plex media server configured on it so i can have a look please
[15:56] <Langley> Ahh oaky
[15:56] <ObrienDave> no_gravity, the one to the left of the up/down arrows
[15:56] <ObrienDave> no_gravity, looks like a little person ;P
[15:57] <no_gravity> ObrienDave: there are no up/down arrows.
[15:57] <no_gravity> im going to make a photo with my phone...
[15:57] <ObrienDave> k
[15:57] <Ririshi> trijntje, Langley, a defect in the downloaded disk image has caused me quite some trouble :p
[15:58] <Langley> I'm holding down shift but not getting any options to check anything
[15:59] <k1l_> Langley: does the bios see the disk you try to boot from?
[15:59] <k1l_> Langley: what setup is that in general? which disks?
[16:00] <Langley> k1l_: It's from a USB. Boots fine into the live enviroment
[16:00] <k1l_> Langley: then make sure the usb hdd gets power before the boot and is ready
[16:01] <Langley> huh? there's no hdd involved here
[16:01] <Langley> Trying to install from an USB dongle, onto an SSD
[16:01] <no_gravity> ObrienDave, k1l_: http://i.imgur.com/IvIKKSw.jpg
[16:03] <no_gravi1y> logged out... did anybody say something about the photo of my login screen?
[16:05] <k1l_> no_gravi1y: then try this PPA to install mate: http://thelinuxrain.com/articles/how-to-install-mate-1-8-in-ubuntu-14-04-and-give-it-a-classic-ubuntu-look-and-feel
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[16:07] <Langley> Reinstalling without updates didnt help... Any ideas? How do I check the USB media?
[16:08] <Langley> Oh it finally worked, holding down shift
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Nvm, not gonna upgrade to 14.04, thanks
[16:08] <ObrienDave> no_gravi1y, top RIGHT corner, 6th from the right. that is the DE selector
[16:08] <ObrienDave> no_gravity, ^^^
[16:09] <no_gravi1y> ObrienDave: the one with "De" on it? no, its the language selector. it offers german (DE) and english.
[16:09] <no_gravi1y> ObrienDave: i think "apt-get install mate-desktop" did not install an actual desktop manager.
[16:09] <no_gravi1y> ObrienDave: it was only 3k in size.
[16:10] <Langley> Well shit it found errors in 2 files
[16:10] <TimeVirus> hello all
[16:11] <Ririshi> Langley,  try downloading the img using a torrent or wget for windows
[16:11] <Ririshi> Langley, you'll make sure there won't be any corruptions that way :)
[16:11] <Langley> I actually downloaded it by torrent...
[16:11] <Langley> Maybe it happened when it was put on the USB
[16:11] <Ririshi> oh.
[16:11] <TimeVirus> I have questions about installing an Ubuntu for MY machine like shich DE is should choose given what I want to do with Ubuntu
[16:12] <TimeVirus> I plan on using Ubuntiu on my Latitude D420 with a core 2 duo U2500 CPU and 2GB RAM to host a few VMs
[16:13] <TimeVirus> limited RAM makes me think no more that Gnome 2 for 1
[16:13] <Prolific> Hi All, a really quick one... I am looking for a budget laptop that would be compatible to run the latest version of Ubuntu without too much work involved to get it all smoothly working, any suggestions?
[16:13] <bazhang> !hcl | Prolific
[16:13] <no_gravi1y> so is ther *no* other Desktop in ubuntu 14 besided unity?
[16:13] <no_gravi1y> in the repos i mean
[16:14] <trijntje> no_gravi1y: of course there are different DE's
[16:14] <bazhang> !notunity | no_gravi1y
[16:14] <trijntje> !flavours
[16:14] <p3rror> hello
[16:14] <p3rror> how to i install gearman=1.0.6-3
[16:14] <p3rror> on ubuntu
[16:14] <OerHeks> no_gravi1y, nice screenshots from k1l_ , http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[16:14] <trijntje> TimeVirus: choose a light flavour of ubuntu like lubuntu, and install zram-config to give you some extra RAM to use
[16:14] <TimeVirus> nice thanks
[16:15] <TimeVirus> thats lmde DE?
[16:15] <OerHeks> p3rror, sudo apt-get install gearman
[16:15] <TimeVirus> wait no
[16:15] <OerHeks> !info gearman
[16:15] <TimeVirus> lol
[16:15] <Prolific> ubottu Thanks!
[16:15] <TimeVirus> lubuntu then
[16:15] <TimeVirus> thanks
[16:16] <TimeVirus> tabbing
[16:17] <abator> hi, new for ubuntu. need to know where .desktop file must be saved. i need path
[16:17] <DDAZZA> I've upgraded to 14.04 and my resolution is not correct. I have a Radeon HD 4650 and an LG Flatron monitor.  How can I fix the resolution?
[16:18] <OerHeks> abator, this wiki might be any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[16:19] <abator> OerHeks: thank you
[16:19] <Ririshi> DDAZZA, system settings > software & updates > Additional Drivers > look if there's a good driver available for your GPU
[16:19] <p3rror> OerHeks, I need a specific version
[16:19] <DDAZZA> Ririshi, There are no additional drivers available. :(
[16:20] <p3rror> OerHeks, apt-get install gearman=version ???
[16:20] <trijntje> DDAZZA: how have you tried to set the resolution?
[16:20] <Ririshi> DDAZZA, I think you've already checked System Settings > Display?
[16:21] <OerHeks> p3rror, the version you names, is the only one the repos, just install gearman
[16:21] <DDAZZA> Ririshi, Yes,
[16:21] <OerHeks> names-named*
[16:21] <no_gravi1y> ok, so what i get is: there are no alternate desktops in the ubuntu 14 repos, right? so i will have to install a different distro.
[16:21] <DDAZZA> trijntje, xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[16:21] <trijntje> no_gravi1y: no, every flavour uses the same repo, which desktop do you want to use?
[16:22] <no_gravi1y> trijntje: any desktop with a normal taskbar will do.
[16:22] <k1l_> no_gravi1y: what?
[16:22] <p3rror> OerHeks, I know that
[16:22] <p3rror> OerHeks, please can you tell me how to install a specific version of a package
[16:23] <no_gravi1y> k1l_: any desktop will do as long as it displays the open windows in a taskbar along with the window titles.
[16:23] <k1l_> no_gravi1y: you were given several solutions. if you dont want them dont blame ubuntu
[16:23] <no_gravi1y> k1l_: i didnt blame anybody.
[16:23] <no_gravi1y> k1l_: i just came to the conclusion there are no alternate DEs in the repos.
 ok, so what i get is: there are no alternate desktops in the ubuntu 14 repos, right? so i will have to install a different distro.  << that is just wrong
[16:24] <OerHeks> p3rror, if you want a newer version of a package, build it yourself or find a PPA with that version.
[16:24] <no_gravi1y> k1l_: which alternate DE is in the repos?
[16:24] <OerHeks> !ppa
[16:24] <trijntje> no_gravi1y: thats wrong, you can isntall lubuntu-desktop, that is most like xp
[16:24] <k1l_> no_gravi1y: _ a lot_
[16:24] <no_gravi1y> trijntje: but thats a different distro, right? i cannot go there by apt-get install something.
[16:25] <k1l_> no_gravi1y: there is a ton, even specialists desktops you even would not imagine. just look at awesome, which got a taskbar :)
[16:25] <no_gravi1y> k1l_: suggest me a desktop with a normal taskbar and i will apt-get install it.
[16:26] <k1l_> no_gravi1y: did you one time look at this? http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ if so how come you still tell the wrong stories?
[16:26] <no_gravi1y> k1l_: im giving up. somehow we talk past each other.
[16:27] <TimeVirus> I have a Broadcom BCM4311 wifi card on this mobo, is the firmware and fw cutter installer in the Lubuntu package manager?
[16:27] <k1l_> ?? open the link in a browser: open the eyes and see the pictures, decide which major desktop suits you best, install it, ??? , profit
[16:27] <llutz> no_gravi1y: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop            to get the lxDE from lubuntu. same for kubuntu-desktop to get KDE etc.pp
[16:28] <no_gravi1y> llutz: aha!
[16:29] <no_gravi1y> looking at the pictures only lxde seems to have a normal taskbar.. so lets try lubuntu-desktop...
[16:29] <k1l_> finally
[16:29] <TimeVirus> lol 'normal'
[16:29] <llutz> no_gravi1y: KDE has
[16:30] <TimeVirus> I'm normal too o.0
[16:30] <no_gravi1y> llutz: yes, could be... well, lubuntu is already doing its 266mb thing so lets see...
[16:33] <anddam> hello, while upgrading frmo 12.04 to 14 in GNOME (I got prompted by a dialog to upgrade) I got a "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" for several packages, first "unity" then a few python-related ones
[16:33] <TimeVirus> google BCM4311, firmware, Lubuntu?
[16:33] <anddam> I couldn't find any reference to this same issue on web, what should I check?
[16:33] <anddam> the upgrade is still going on
[16:34] <TimeVirus> no one responding in Lubuntu
[16:34] <TimeVirus> heh
[16:35] <altered_> hi, I'm having hell of a time trying to turn the hardware switch back on on my yoga 2 laptop...so far I've followed these steps, and am having trouble with the make file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221 5044&page=10  you can see my post #99, last one
[16:35] <no_gravi1y> back in lxde
[16:35] <anddam> nice, now the wm died and I'm left with undecorated windows, the IRC client on top so I'm able to type
[16:35] <k1l_> TimeVirus: no difference in lubuntu or ubuntu there. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for solution
[16:35] <no_gravi1y> this is too damn ugly...
[16:36] <ryan_46> What can I type in terminal to find out whether I'm using KDM or lightdm?
[16:36] <llutz> ryan_46: pgrep kdm
[16:36] <k1l_> ryan_46: see the process list?
[16:37] <ryan_46> llutz: k1l: Thanks
[16:37] <altered_> and to be direct to the point http://pastebin.com/kxW11Xed is the output from my make file, what does it mean?
[16:38] <altered_> so who knows anything about using makefiles?
[16:41] <TimeVirus> kil, thanks
[16:44] <anddam> altered_: many do
[16:44] <anddam> I cannot see the pastebin, what's the issue?
[16:46] <altered_> anddam http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215044&p=13100847#post13100847  basically the included wifi drivers cause a hardware bit to be disabled on yoga 2 laptop's wifi cards, rendering them dead, this is a patch I'm trying to compile
[16:46] <deadmund> I'm trying to install an older version of zsnes but synaptic only lists one version (1.51) is there any way to install an old version from repos?
[16:47] <altered_> anddam this is probably the main error as a result of make: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/ubuntu/workspace/ideapad/Makefile'.  Stop.
[16:48] <altered_> anddam it's a kernel module, never done this before, was just trying to learn linux and upon boot...kill my wifi card
[16:49] <altered_> anddam the other error; make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-32-generic' scripts/Makefile.build:44: /home/ubuntu/workspace/ideapad/Makefile: No such file or directory ;  the makefile exists, so I'm not sure what this is saying
[16:49] <stevendumani> hi room I started nautilus as root and I'm getting this msg ** (nautilus:2739): WARNING **: Could not inhibit power management: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Name "org.gnome.SessionManager" does not exist what can i do to fix this?
[16:49] <anddam> altered_: I'm sorry but without a working wm I canno really help you
[16:50] <stevendumani> also, I'm getting lots of random error msgs
[16:50] <anddam> btw, what's a wm installed in a default 12.04 Ubuntu?
[16:50] <OerHeks> stevendumani, those messages are warnings, no errors, and are normal AFAIK
[16:51] <OerHeks> be carefull what you do as root
[16:51] <anddam> my wm died and I'm a bit stuck, I'd like to start one (anyone really) and wait for the upgrade to finish
[16:51] <Langley> Success, it booted up. Thanks Ririshi and trijntje and others
[16:52] <stevendumani> OerHeks you know what this is the second linux installation (both ubuntu) and to tell u the truth its making me depressed because at many times I'm doing things but even when they work I'm not happy because I don't understand what I'm doing, and so I can't fix problems when they happen... :(
[16:53] <Langley> ... how do I enable num-lock by default
[16:54] <anddam> seriously, I could use a hand here, the browser start in a 200x200 window and it doesn't get focus
[16:54] <Ririshi> Langley, what did you do in the end langley?
[16:54] <Langley> Ririshi: Download ubuntu, put on USB again, install
[16:55] <altered_> gnome maybe?
[16:55] <Ririshi> Langley, probably a a faulty usb then :p
[16:55] <anddam> I'm a Xorg session and need to start a wm, it has to be one installed by default in 12.04 since I cannot instal packages right now
[16:55] <Ririshi> Langley, glad you got it booting now :)
[16:55] <Langley> Naah it's the same USB
[16:55] <Ririshi> Langley, i mean the installation :p
[16:55] <Langley> Yeah that was probably it
[16:55] <k1l_> anddam: start lightdm
[16:55] <tables> how do i get the list of packages to be downloaded for a package?
[16:55] <tables> list of debs
[16:55] <Langley> Now if I could just get numlock turned on on boot, that would be great
[16:55] <Ririshi> !numlock
[16:56] <k1l_> anddam: but that will stop the upgrade
[16:56] <Ririshi> !numlock | Langley
[16:56] <Ririshi> Damn this bot is a clever one
[16:56] <anddam> k1l_: "Running inside an X server requires Xephyr to be installed but it cannot be found.  Please install it or update your PATH environment variable."
[16:56] <k1l_> anddam: since lightdm is already running in that other session and if you restart it it will kill the session
[16:56] <anddam> but thanks for the hint
[16:56] <anddam> k1l_: which other session?
[16:57] <Langley> I think that guide is outdated.. Thereis no 'keyboard layout'
[16:57] <k1l_> didnt you say you are running a gui right now?
[16:57] <anddam> k1l_: oh right, that's why I asked for a simple wm
[16:57] <anddam> dm tries to handle the whole session
[16:57] <anddam> I'm in the middle of the upgrade
[16:58] <k1l_> anddam: you think the upgrade is still running?
[16:58] <anddam> how's the default wm called
[16:58] <Ririshi> Langley, scroll down
[16:58] <anddam> k1l_: I know it is
[16:58] <Ririshi> Langley,  you can enable it on startup with numlockx
[16:58] <anddam> k1l_: I see the progress window, altho undecorated
[16:58] <k1l_> for unity its metacity or compiz
[16:59] <anddam> metacity did the job :-)
[16:59] <anddam> how's the launcher called too?
[16:59] <anddam> it crashed as well
[16:59] <Langley> There is absolutely none of those options in 'Keyboard' ... it looks completely different
[16:59] <anddam> but just having the wm is really nice
[16:59] <anddam> upgrading network-manager now, is it going in alphabetical order?
[17:00] <anddam> this is a 12.04 to 14 upgrade, it fetched about 1500 packages
[17:00] <Ririshi> langley, scroll down further -.-
[17:00] <anddam> I don't know how much the progress bar is precise
[17:01] <Ririshi> langley, "Enable NumLock during startup"
[17:01] <Langley> scroll down where?
[17:01] <Ririshi> Langley, in that guide page
[17:01] <Ririshi> !numlock | Langley
[17:01] <Ririshi> Aand ubottu doesn't feel like doing anything
[17:02] <Langley> I am reading that guide... but isn't there any GUI option for enabling it?
[17:02] <k1l_> Ririshi: spam protection
[17:02] <Ririshi> k1l_, I see..
[17:02] <tables> hwo do i list all the debs for a package i installed or gonna install?
[17:02] <tables> how do i list all the debs for a package i installed or gonna install?
[17:02] <Ririshi> !spam
[17:02] <Ririshi> ;)
[17:03] <k1l_> tables: apt-cache rdepends packagename
[17:03] <qstrahl> Is it possible to override a global .desktop file (in /usr/share/applications) with a local one (in ~/.local/share/applications)? I can't seem to get it to work.
[17:04] <tables> k11 that doesn't show the debs that are being used
[17:04] <qstrahl> I copied /usr/share/applications/mame.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/mame.desktop so I could modify the command that runs the game, then I restarted to make the change take effect, but it doesn't seem to use the local one.
[17:04] <qstrahl> Would appreciate some guidance.
[17:04] <tables> i'm trying to find out what debs are being used or gonna be used in /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:04] <k1l_> tables: apt-cache showpkg
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> tables  try apt-cache show
[17:05] <Langley> Hmm, the software updater doesn't seem to be working.. it's on the taskbar, but no window appears
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  was faster
[17:05] <k1l_> tables: just use apt-get autoremove and apt-get autoclean to get rid of that packages
[17:05] <k1l_> *that packages that are not beeing used anymore
[17:07] <c3l> How do I turn off my display (from the command line, it's a laptop), so that it does not reactivate when I press a key or move the mouse (as is the case for "xset dpms force off"). But I want to be able to turn on the screen again from the command line. Does anyone know?
[17:08] <k1l_> c3l: you could not turn that on because its off. you dont see what you type there, right?
[17:09] <k1l_> c3l: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62858/turn-off-monitor-using-command-line
[17:10] <anddam> k1l_: do you by any chance also know how the launchbar is called?
[17:10] <anddam> the "dock"
[17:10] <k1l_> that is included in unity
[17:10] <anddam> I'm not sure how GNOME cals it
[17:10] <anddam> calls*
[17:10] <stiv2k_> hello how come suspend works perfectly but hibernate seems to ruin everything? specifically the wireless (ath9k) and it doesnt seem to be able to shut down properly or really do much other stuff after resuming from hibernate
[17:11] <c3l> k1l_, maybe you misunderstood, I would simply a key to run the "turn off screen command" and another key for "turn on screen command". Ill check out the link, thanks!
[17:11] <k1l_> gnome? 14.04 doesnt have any gnome2 anymore. so that is going to make a problem
[17:12] <c3l> k1l_, ah yes - "sudo vbetool dpms off" does nothing on my computer. you don't happen to know anything about this? how can I debug this?
[17:12] <anddam> k1l_: me?
[17:12] <k1l_> stiv2k_: with suspend you mean standby. both standy and hibernation are suspends. standby is suspend to ram and hibernation is suspend to swap
[17:12] <stiv2k_> k1l_: yes, that's what i meant
[17:12] <stiv2k_> s/suspend/standby in my original question
[17:13] <k1l_> stiv2k_: i bet its because the modules dont get loaded properly on relaunch. but that is out of my business to invistigate
[17:17] <stiv2k_> k1l_: im going to switch back to nouveau and see how it behaves
[17:17] <botnut> anyone running hi dpi on ubuntu? 3200x1800
[17:18] <HotSwap> anyone here set up LXC unprivileged containers on 14.04?  I've followed the server guide but am running into an issue creating the container as a non-root user.
[17:18] <bipul> May i know, #Ubuntu-beginners is for invite only?
[17:19] <Spacethingy> Hi, could someone tell me how often / when "locate" updates it's database? Or do I just have to do it manually with "sudo updatedb"?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> bipul  try this channel, beginners come here too
[17:20] <k1l_> bipul: its closed down
[17:21] <HotSwap> Spacethingy, seems to be on /etc/cron.daily/
[17:21] <bipul> MonkeyDust: I just wanted to go there.
[17:21] <HotSwap> assuming updatedb.mlocate is the same thign as updatedb.. tbh im not sure
[17:22] <botnut> is ubuntu touch dead?
[17:22] <bipul> Between I am looking for any development team? Regading Networking or Ubuntu Server Development team.
[17:23] <bazhang> !touch | botnut
[17:23] <bipul> Is there any such team anyone know?
[17:23] <Spacethingy> So, "locate"'s database doesn't update automatically then?
[17:24] <bekks> Spacethingy: It does, once a week.
[17:24] <HotSwap> seems to be daily on my system
[17:24] <Spacethingy> Ah, lovely, thanks!
[17:25] <pierceworks> i don't understand when people say mint is better than ubuntu
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> pierceworks  discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[17:26] <pierceworks> sorry
[17:26] <pierceworks> i'll leave this lame as channel
[17:27] <bipul> Even i don't understand why people compare Linux. "who is the best !, why it is best bla bla !
[17:28] <kriskropd> bipul: there is #ubuntu-server if you wanted that
[17:28] <Diplomat> hey guys, for some reason I'm able to forward 80 port to my virtualbox ubuntu desktop, but im not able to connect to SSH (yes its installed)
[17:28] <bipul> kriskropd: Thank you.
[17:29] <Diplomat> can you please give me ideas why its so
[17:29] <botnut> firewall
[17:29] <kriskropd> Diplomat: i=ssh isn't port 80, thats http
[17:29] <Diplomat> wat..
[17:29] <Diplomat> ssh is 22, http is 80
[17:30] <botnut> diplomat - check your firewall
[17:30] <bekks> Diplomat: So if you forward port 80 only, ssh will not work.
[17:30] <kriskropd> you indicated you had forwarded port 80 and then said you couldn't connect to ssh - thats because you also need to forward your ssh port, which is 22 by default
[17:30] <Diplomat> I have forwarded 22 already
[17:31] <Capprentice> hi ! anyone running a p2p torrent server here?
[17:31] <bekks> Capprentice: Why?
[17:31] <Capprentice> I want to know if it is possible to run a local p2p torrent server for local net?
[17:31] <bekks> Capprentice: Yes.
[17:31] <Capprentice> bekks, How?
[17:31] <kriskropd> Capprentice: you shouldn't ask for software recommendations here, and torrent software like rtorrent and transmission have their own channels
[17:32] <botnut> capprentice - http://www.turnkeylinux.org/torrentserver
[17:32] <bekks> Capprentice: In your local network, you'll be faster wgen using NFS, CIFS or FTP.
[17:32] <Diplomat> does 14.04 desktop comes with its own firewall ?
[17:33] <Diplomat> I allowed 22 port in my windows firewall
[17:34] <botnut> make sure you arent blocking port 22 on your ubuntu box
[17:34] <bekks> Diplomat: Did you install and start the SSH server?
[17:34] <Diplomat> not really because I haven't touched anything
[17:34] <kriskropd> Diplomat: there isn't enough provided information to determine a solution for you: can you ping the machine successfully? is your ssh request not reaching the vm? are you getting a login prompt and erroring? does 'service ssh status' suggest a process is running?
[17:35] <Capprentice> bekks, I would prefer a bittorrent network which will utilize the LAN speed!
[17:36] <bekks> Capprentice: NFS, CIFS and FTP do use the LAN speed as well.
[17:36] <Capprentice> botnut, Do you know how to use that? Alreay tried and failed!
[17:36] <Capprentice> botnut, Would you please help me...We can talk in private :)
[17:37] <kriskropd> Capprentice: if you only need to transfer a few files once, you can also just use scp or even rsync
[17:37] <Diplomat> @kriskropd: no i cant ping it, SSH just times out (probably because I can't ping it) also SSH is up and listening to 0.0.0.0
[17:37] <kriskropd> Capprentice: if you need a file server, you really don't want to use torrenting for that
[17:37] <Diplomat> Weird thing is that it forwards 80 port correctly
[17:37] <SchrodingersScat> rsync is nice.  btsync is probably the closest to what he's actually asking for, over lan, torrent-like, but it's non-free
[17:37] <bekks> Diplomat: Which virtualization solution do you use?
[17:37] <Diplomat> VirtualBox by Oracle
[17:38] <Diplomat> on Windows 7
[17:38] <Capprentice> kriskropd, I want a p2p file sharing server, preferably torrent server.
[17:38] <kriskropd> Diplomat: when you say forwarding... is this machine located remotely and you are accessing it over the Internet? that might explain why you cannot ping it
[17:38] <bekks> Diplomat: Then pastebin "VBoxManage showvminfo ..." please and provide the URL to your paste so we can see the configuration of your vm.
[17:39] <Diplomat> No it's in my own PC.. so when I go to my own IP (I have public static IP).. then it shows my web page there
[17:39] <kriskropd> Diplomat: good admins know to turn off the pingability of their networks if they are making their network accessible to the Web
[17:39] <Diplomat> kriskropd: pinging my ip is disabled, but i tried to ping my local ip 10.0.2.15 that belongs to that vm
[17:39] <kriskropd> Diplomat: if you are working in LAN (local area network) you don't need to forward anything - port forwarding is only to make services accessible at the gateway to the WAN (wide area network ; internet)
[17:40] <Diplomat> I have it like this: http://puu.sh/aWsXK/762d3b8ccc.png
[17:40] <Diplomat> This port forwarding settings
[17:40] <Diplomat> Those *
[17:41] <tortib> hello everyone.  How can I install java without installing different web browsers and X components?  I just want java jre
[17:41] <vicsar> .
[17:42] <DJones> !java | tortib
[17:42] <kriskropd> I don't think that is doing what you think it does - at least not in relation to your issue here
[17:42] <kriskropd> Diplomat: ^
[17:42] <Langley> I just formatted a hard drive to ext4, and it says there's already 72.9MB used? For what?
[17:42] <kriskropd> Diplomat: is your network adapter set to Bridged or the default NAT?
[17:43] <tortib> ubottu: what about default-jre-headless?
[17:43] <tortib> er i mean DJones
[17:43] <Ludlow> hello
[17:43] <DJones> tortib: No idea, I use OpenJDK myself
[17:43] <Ludlow> good morningnoon to all
[17:43] <Diplomat> @kriskropd: it's NAT
[17:44] <Ludlow> I have a screen issue and I dont know how to fix it. please advise
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Ludlow  let's hear it
[17:44] <Diplomat> Also if I don't forward 80 port that way then it wont connect
[17:44] <kriskropd> Diplomat: okay, and you are sure you have installed and enabled ssh server in the vm? you can check if its running with 'service ssh status' - you don't even need to sudo this
[17:44] <Ludlow> MonkeyDust, My screen is totally skewed
[17:44] <Diplomat> yes I'm 100% sure
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> Ludlow  define 'totally skewed'
[17:45] <kriskropd> Diplomat: then this sounds like a problem with virtualbox, honestly :/ unless you knowingly adjusted your firewall or iptables in ubuntu
[17:45] <erry> anybody know how to get openshot in 14.04 toimport a .mp4 file?
[17:45] <kriskropd> Diplomat: ubuntu doesn't block any of that stuff by Default
[17:45] <erry> iut's telling me it doesn't support it
[17:46] <Ludlow> MonkeyDust, My screen is set to 1080p but when I open for example a application the 4 sides of the application are different lengths
[17:46] <Diplomat> @kriskropd: http://puu.sh/aWtlP/55140a337a.png
[17:46] <Ludlow> MonkeyDust, thats what I mean by skewed
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Ludlow  say it to the channel, no need to address me personally...
[17:47] <kriskropd> Diplomat: yeah, looks like its running just fine - you can access 80 but not 22, huh? that is strange
[17:47] <Langley> Why am I not the owner of my hard drive I just partitioned? How am I supposed to use it??
[17:47] <Diplomat> Yes sir, that's why I came here to ask
[17:47] <bazhang> http://www.openshotusers.com/help/1.3/en/ar01s06.html  erry
[17:47] <botnut> diplomat - are you natting or bridging the nic card ?
[17:47] <Diplomat> NAT
[17:48] <kriskropd> Diplomat: present this in #virtualbox - I've never had to mess witht hat internal port forwarding feature before, but I wonder if you messing with it might have something to do with it
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> Ludlow  no pm please
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> Langley: could be owned as root? and not sure about your space question, it could be the root reserved space, but that might be wrong, just a guess.
[17:48] <Ludlow> MonkeyDust, sorry
[17:48] <Diplomat> @botnut: http://puu.sh/aWtvk/f8be3b97d2.png
[17:49] <Langley> SchrodingersScat: Yes it says root is the owner. But I'm not allowed to move anything over there or create folders..
[17:49] <Diplomat> @kriskropd: alright, i'll try, thanks
[17:49] <botnut> diplomat - try bridging instead of nat
[17:49] <kriskropd> Diplomat: sorry to bounce you around like that :/ if they can give you a more specific ubuntu thing to inspect, we can help witht hat
[17:50] <kriskropd> Diplomat: oh yes, and try switching to bridge - that is kind of important
[17:50] <SchrodingersScat> Langley: if it's a drive you're using for storage, you can change the permissions for the drive.  If it's a system drive then you have to be more careful about permissions.  chmod can change read/write/execute permissions, and then chown can change the owner, so you could change it to your account if you like.
[17:50] <kriskropd> Diplomat: as botnut already said :s
[17:51] <Diplomat> Well, bridged doesnt work
[17:51] <Langley> SchrodingersScat: It's for storage. I can't figure out chown, it says no such file or directory. I'm trying to use /media/stuff
[17:51] <Diplomat> Everything times out (80 and 22)
[17:52] <botnut> diplomat - why doesnt bridged work? i run many vms on my machine - i run into issues each and every time when i use NAT
[17:52] <botnut> diplomat - i switched bridge - make sure i have DHCP on and that my network will assign it an IP and then im good to go
[17:52] <botnut> mind you - i run linux and macos vms on windows 7 and also on windowws 8.1
[17:52] <kriskropd> Diplomat: switching to bridged adapter makes the VM appear directly on the LAN like another machine - as NAT it simply tags in as part of the host machine
[17:52] <botnut> diplomat - mind you ALL run bridged
[17:52] <SchrodingersScat> Langley: ok, so if it's mounted at /media/stuff then you should be able to do something like chown -R Langley:LangLey /media/stuff
[17:53] <Diplomat> Weird, I have always used NAT and it has always worked even for SSH or HTTP, but sure I'll try
[17:53] <kriskropd> Diplomat: i never runa  vm on anything aside from Bridged Adapter mode unless I have a specific reason to
[17:53] <SchrodingersScat> Langley: although, if it's saying no such directory, then make sure that's the correct path, as far as I know ubuntu now mounts things as /media/user/stuff
[17:53] <Langley> SchrodingersScat: It just keeps saying no such directory... even though it's clearly visible under Devices
[17:53] <Ludlow> where can I send a screenshot so people can see my issue?
[17:54] <Langley> Adding /media/user/stuff didn't help either
[17:54] <Diplomat> Do i have to reboot my vm after changing to bridged ?
[17:54] <kriskropd> Diplomat: selecting bridged adater mode, and being pushed to the LAN gateway, means it will use a different IP - so make sure that isn't why you are timing ut
[17:54] <kriskropd> out*
[17:54] <botnut> diplomat - possibly - wouldnt hurt
[17:54] <Diplomat> :/
[17:54] <kriskropd> Diplomat: yes, you have to change to bridged mode while the machine is turned off
[17:55] <kriskropd> Diplomat: can't hot-swap a network card :s
[17:55] <SchrodingersScat> Langley: user would be whatever your username is, and if it's not there then you would need to find it before you change permissions, maybe nautilus can help you? or 'mount' maybe
[17:55] <Ludlow> MonkeyDust, can I send you a screenshot?
[17:55] <Langley> Ah, finally... thanks SchrodingersScat
[17:55] <Langley> But good god, why do linux have to make even the most basic tasks this complicated? I have to do this with all my four drives now?
[17:56] <Diplomat> I'm going to try this: http://puu.sh/aWu4j/88658bb5fa.png
[17:56] <SchrodingersScat> Langley: could probably do it in a gui if you really wanted to, and it makes sense, root made the partition/etc. so then you have to tell the system who has access.
[17:57] <kriskropd> Diplomat: try it, find the new ip for the vm once it is up, try to ssh to it again :)
[17:57] <Langley> It doesnt make sense.... to not get access to your own drives
[17:57] <Langley> If my mom was running ubuntu and she came home with a new external drive... she would never get to use it
[17:57] <ewooy> My server is keep getting shutdown/sleep - I dont know exatcly what. Led light on turn on button is blinking, reset button doesnt do anything neither does turnon button. Only option is to plug it out of electricity and boot. What could be the couse. Where should I start exploring? (around once a day maybe once every 2 days)
[17:58] <Diplomat> Dafuq
[17:58] <Diplomat> now it works..
[17:59] <Diplomat> much success, wow
[17:59] <Diplomat> But how do I forward ports now..
[17:59] <kriskropd> tbh idk why NAT wouldn't work from the same host machine, but it's usually just not worth leaving a vm on NAT anyways
[18:00] <Guest92314> Langley: It makes perfect sense for a partition created by root to be accessible only by root.
[18:00] <kriskropd> Diplomat: you shouldn't need to forward ports in vbox unless you are trying to makes a closed on WAN imitation :/
[18:00] <Diplomat> :/ I know, but sometimes I want to show stuff to people
[18:00] <botnut> lol
[18:00] <Ludlow> could someone please look at this pic and tell me how to fix my screen from being skewed?   http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-08-17_10_49_06-TWAIXqMs.png
[18:00] <kriskropd> Diplomat: if you want to forward ports over the internet, you do it from your router/modem/gateway device, like you would for any other machine
[18:00] <Langley> Guest92314: For the computer, maybe. But not for the user. At the very least, there should have been a checkbox in gparted or something, to take ownership there.
[18:01] <Diplomat> Alright , no problem.. its good that it's fixed now, thank you to everybody
[18:01] <kriskropd> s/closed on/closed off/
[18:01] <botnut> np
[18:01] <Ludlow> MonkeyDust, Here is a pic - http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-08-17_10_49_06-TWAIXqMs.png
[18:02] <dannixon_> Ludlow: That screenshot looks fine, are you sure your monitor is eorking properly
[18:02] <kriskropd> Ludlow: what's skewed? i dont see it
[18:02] <dannixon_> *working
[18:03] <Ludlow> Daniel0, kriskropd  click on the pic and you will see the sides of the xchat at different sizes
[18:03] <Ludlow> dannixon_, my monitor is working fine.
[18:03] <kriskropd> Ludlow: i don't use xchat and this isn't chat support - but I'm sure you can adjust the widths of the layout somewhere - maybe try clickign and dragging the borders
[18:03] <kriskropd> xchat*
[18:03] <dannixon_> Ludlow: That screenshot shows a perfectly rectangular window
[18:04] <Ludlow> kriskropd, dannixon_ Hmm looks skewed to me.  Let me see if I can adjust something.  thanks for the help
[18:05] <dannixon_> (hence my asking about the monitor)
[18:08] <botnut> so anyone have thoughts on hi res in ubuntu? 3200x1800
[18:08] <botnut> i just switched to a new laptop - had to redo my linux vm because the previous vm woudl just crap out
[18:08] <botnut> after much tweaking of the new vm - i got it to where i want it but ugh its not perfect
[18:09] <bipul> Hello I wants to know about UOS meeting in November.
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> !UOS | bipul
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> bipul: well, summit.ubuntu.com might help?
[18:13] <bipul> SchrodingersScat: Yes, But i am facing a problem on registeration process, As i am confused with START UTC timing and END UTC timing.
[18:15] <interweb> How do I can install kde5 on my ubuntu 14.04 ? And how much space does it want to install ?
[18:16] <kriskropd> interweb: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it will tell you how much space it needs before asking if you want to continue installing
[18:17] <interweb> kriskropd, Does it install kde 5 ?
[18:17] <kriskropd> interweb: sorry - that is for the kde environment prepared for kubuntu - i assumed that was kde5 :s
[18:17] <no_gravity> In this day and age, whats the best way to slow down the fans on an ubuntu system?
[18:17] <VY0WQX> Hello
[18:17] <bipul> interweb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:17] <abhi_> hello
[18:17] <bipul> Hi abhi_
[18:18] <abhi_> hello bipul
[18:18] <VY0WQX> If I were to post a link to a survey, would you be willing to help me with your input by completing it for me?
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> VY0WQX  no polls here
[18:19] <VY0WQX> OK
[18:19] <kriskropd> interweb: I think its kde 4.4
[18:19] <abhi_> any body tell me...how to run c in ubuntu
[18:19] <kriskropd> interweb: that is in the repos - im checkign from a 12.04.4 LTS machine tho - you should inspect yours 'apt-cache show kde-window-manager'
[18:20] <catbusters> abhi_: How exactly do you mean?
[18:20] <kriskropd> abhi_: you write c in an editor, then you compile with a compiler
[18:20] <kriskropd> abhi_: gcc and g++ is quite popular in linux
[18:20] <kriskropd> as compilers
[18:21] <abhi_> compile program of c
[18:21] <bazhang> !compile | abhi_ read this
[18:21] <abhi_> thanxx..krisk and catbuster
[18:25] <bipul> abhi_: gcc Yourprogramefile.c
[18:25] <abhi_> i got it...
[18:25] <abhi_> bipul
[18:25] <abhi_> thanx
[18:26] <bipul> then you will you have to do ./yourprogramefile that sit`
[18:27] <bipul> Yeah Just two steps to compile and run your simple C programe in terminal
[18:30] <zeorin> Hi, I have a problem with gnome-keyring-daemon
[18:30] <trijntje> !details
[18:31] <zeorin> I don't want it to manage my ssh keys. Typically, I disable the ssh component in startup application (after unhiding it), but in my current installation, that does not work. It used to work for me on other installations of ubuntu
[18:34] <ids> I'm trying to get SPDIF to work on ubuntu, but so far, no sound. It is recognized as NVidia CK804 / Realtek ALC850, it's not muted, but no sound :(
[18:34] <zeorin> What I mean by that is that although the automatic startup of the ssh component is indeed disabled both in /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop AND in ~/.config/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop, by virtue of the following line: X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false
[18:35] <zeorin> even though that is set, the ssh component of gnome-keyring-daemon is still started.
[18:35] <YoSh11> Does anyone know of a distro that you can use without a mouse?
[18:36] <ids> any distro, just work in the terminal ;)
[18:37] <YoSh11> As in, I can crawl through internet, then open a document.
[18:37] <kriskropd> YoSh11: I tend to use dwm and urxvt almost exclusively - you can use that environment without a mouse for the most part - there are multiple plugins for mouseless browsing with firefox too
[18:37] <YoSh11> Thank you, do you know of any plugins for firefox?
[18:38] <kriskropd> YoSh11: also look into tmux if you want windowing isnide terminal - works over ssh nicely
[18:39] <kriskropd> YoSh11: wel I use this one https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mouseless-browsing/ but unfortunately some javascript animated websites and such that are heavily mouse interfaced and interactive will still require your using a mouse
[18:39] <kriskropd> YoSh11: there is a way to move the mouse around with your numpad if you are interested, but its really impracticaly
[18:39] <YoSh11> True, but I just need it for research.
[18:40] <kriskropd> impractical* :S
[18:40] <YoSh11> The trackpad on my laptop is basically shot, and I can't wrestle around with it during class.
[18:41] <ryan_46> YoSh11: Software Center has Ratpoison. It is keyboard only wm.
[18:41] <gatis> Why xubuntu seems not so leightweight OS?
[18:42] <kriskropd> if im not mistaken, unity had a bunch of hotkeys and even a legend you could pull up for window management - splitting windows and makign selections and etc
[18:42] <YoSh11> Is Unity a DE?
[18:42] <Beldar> gatis, I personally don't think it is, this is a subjective opinion like your is.
[18:43] <kriskropd> YoSh11: mouselessbrowsing plugin for firefox mimics elinks text-browser - you type a numbeer to quickly select the link, rather than hitting tab-key many times in firefox
[18:43] <bekks> YoSh11: Yes.
[18:43] <YoSh11> That works. Does it install like any other distro or do I have to use something like Ubuntu Tweaks?
[18:44] <kriskropd> YoSh11: unity is the default DE ubuntu comes with no days
[18:44] <gatis> Beldar, i guess i need Lubuntu
[18:44] <kgalahassa>  I want to install ubuntu 14.04 lts, which extension is usefull for my disk: ext3? ext4?
[18:44] <kriskropd> kgalahassa: ext4
[18:44] <kgalahassa> ok, thanks
[18:44] <YoSh11> Okay.
[18:44] <kgalahassa> why, I can not format on my ubuntu any usb key
[18:45] <Beldar> gatis, It uses less memory than unity and more than lubuntu, light weight is based on that here.
[18:45] <ids> is spdif supported in ubuntu?
[18:45] <kriskropd> kgalahassa: you cannot format any disk that is mounted, so make sure to unmount first
[18:45] <kgalahassa> ok
[18:47] <kgalahassa> kriskropd, now I m not seeing a path  to format it
[18:47] <kriskropd> kgalahassa: 'sudo fdisk -l' will list the disk devices attached to your machine
[18:47] <kriskropd> kgalahassa: or if you are using gparted, that should acquire the list of disks for you automatically
[18:48] <gatis> strange
[18:48] <kgalahassa> ok
[18:48] <gatis> Beldar, it felt to me that even KDE is more leightweight than Xubuntu
[18:48] <YoSh11> Is there any way to modify the basic GUI of Ubuntu to operate in a more sleek fashion? I know about Ubuntu Tweaks, but all of those require endless tuning to make it fully functional.
[18:49] <ids> define 'sleek fashion'
[18:49] <kriskropd> YoSh11: it helps to knw what you want - you can customize, literally, anything in the FOSS world if you are willing to learn and figure out how to do it yourselff
[18:49] <Metronome> Heya
[18:49] <YoSh11> Somewhat simplistic, but smooth.
[18:49] <Metronome> What are the buttons called in the side bar on Ubuntu, i.e. Firefox, Files, etc.?
[18:49] <kriskropd> YoSh11: that really doesn't say anything
[18:50] <kriskropd> Metronome: that is probably the Unity Bar, if you are using vanilla ubuntu
[18:50] <Beldar> YoSh11, With desktops the simpler they go the less gui's for tweaking, it becomes modifying configs.
[18:50] <YoSh11> Barebones GUI that saves performance.
[18:51] <Metronome> To make this sentence more clear...
[18:51] <Metronome> Right-click “[file name],” which should be in the Downloads section of Files.
[18:51] <kriskropd> YoSh11: look at suckless dwm - i use it - it is tiny
[18:51] <Metronome> How would you clarify "Files" as a member of the Unity Bar?
[18:51] <kriskropd> YoSh11: you can install it from repos, but you will want to read about it before trying it
[18:52] <Metronome> Like, is there a word for a single unity bar object?
[18:52] <Metronome> Or should it just say "...in the Downloads section of 'Files' on the Unity Bar."?
[18:52] <kriskropd> Metronome: icon? i really don't know - I don't fiddle with unity at-all
[18:52] <trijntje> Metronome: those things to start programs are called launchers
[18:52] <kriskropd> ^
[18:53] <YoSh11> It seems interesting, I'll have to try it later.
[18:53] <trijntje> if you het the super/windows button you get the Dash, and the different views in the dash (home, files, programs, music etc) are called lenses
[18:53] <Metronome> So "...in the Downloads section of the 'Files' launcher on the Unity Bar." would be both correct and understandable?
[18:54] <kriskropd> YoSh11: there are a plethora of window managers out there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_managers some of them (like gnome, kde, xfce, lxde) are part of a "Desktop Environment" which is to say they tend to have their own software to do common tasks
[18:54] <YoSh11> Okay, that makes sense.
[18:54] <trijntje> Metronome: yes, that is correct. However, that is the folder 'Downloads' in your home folder, so it's probably better to call it that so people know you are in nautilus, the file manager
[18:55] <stiv2k_> how can i confirm my monitor resolution? the nvidia settings program says 1024x768, but my monitor's native resolution is something like 1366x768
[18:55] <stiv2k_> and when i try to switch it, nothing happens, it just keeps saying 1024x768
[18:55] <eeee> stiv2k_: xrandr, maybe
[18:55] <kriskropd> YoSh11: you generally are not restricted from running a kde application in gnome or any other window manager, you just need the correct libraries to render the window - and usually that sort of stuff will be installed for you as dependencies if you install using the aptitude package manager that is included with ubuntu
[18:55] <botnut> google - ubuntu nvidea drivers
[18:55] <stiv2k_> botnut: what
[18:56] <stiv2k_> eeee: what is the paste tool i can use
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> botnut  don't tell people to google something, when they ask for help
[18:56] <eeee> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:56] <botnut> its easier to do that than explain
[18:57] <stiv2k_> botnut: explain what?
[18:57] <Metronome> "...in the Downloads section of your home folder, which can be accessed via the 'Files' launcher on the Unity Bar."
[18:57] <botnut> i ran into a similar issue last week - first three results solved my problem
[18:57] <Metronome> Like that?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> botnut  you don't know what's easier for someone
[18:57] <eeee> stiv2k_: try xrandr in the terminal, the resolution with the * should be your current resolution
[18:58] <stiv2k_> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
[18:58] <stiv2k_> VGA-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768       60.0*+
[18:58] <eeee> stiv2k_: seems that 1024x768 is it
[18:58] <stiv2k_> ok, so how do i make it the right resolution
[18:58] <stiv2k_> that is NOT the native res for my monitor
[18:58] <eeee> settings > display
[18:58] <stiv2k_> it shuold be 1360x768
[18:59] <stiv2k_> i am using the nvidia driver
[18:59] <DJones> botnut: We ask users not to say "google for something" because they might not have the experience to pick the most appropriate link, its better to give the link so that a user gets the right info first time rather than having to pick one from teh first 20 on a google searh
[18:59] <stiv2k_> hmmm
[18:59] <stiv2k_> that actually worked
[19:00] <stiv2k_> but its skewed
[19:00] <stiv2k_> like the right side is going way off the screen viewable area
[19:00] <eeee> try xrandr again
[19:01] <stiv2k_> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1360 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
[19:01] <stiv2k_> VGA-0 connected primary 1360x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[19:01] <eeee> does it have other resolutions ?
[19:01] <stiv2k_> yes but they are not correct
[19:01] <eeee> you can try them by xrandr -s 1360x768
[19:02] <eeee> ( replace 1360x768 with whatever you have )
[19:02] <stiv2k_> eeee: it is on the correct one
[19:02] <stiv2k_> but not appearing right
[19:03] <TJ-> stiv2k_: The GPU reads the available modes from the monitor's EDID; if that is incorrect the mistakes can occur. "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" may detail problems with the EDID and modelines it declares
[19:04] <jrockjiggz> Hi, i'm getting into working over ssh, but i'm missing the local IDE, instead i feel i'm having to use VIM for every edit.. any suggestions to setup a workflow for web development?
[19:04] <eeee> TJ-: if he used gtf to get the modeline would that work?
[19:04] <stiv2k_> TJ-: i am not sure, it has worked fine with other machines/OS's on this monitor
[19:05] <stiv2k_> TJ-: i am using the nvidia binary driver
[19:05] <TJ-> stiv2k_: eeee: it sounds to me line the correct modelines are there, but check the log-file to be sure there are no problems
[19:06] <cxm__> hi.... how do you disable the ubuntu firewall?
[19:07] <stevendumani> hello room, if I create a script with the following code: can anyone please explain what does it say exactly? #!/bin/sh
[19:07] <stiv2k_> TJ-:
[19:07] <stiv2k_> eeee:
[19:07] <TJ-> cxm__: Which Ubuntu firewall? The firewall is built into the kernel, we just have different user-space tools to control it
[19:07] <stevendumani> sleep 20
[19:07] <stevendumani> conky -d -c ~/.conkyrc
[19:07] <stevendumani> exit
[19:07] <stiv2k_> [    24.992] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI
[19:07] <stiv2k_> [    24.992] (WW) NVIDIA(0):     from CRT-0's EDID.
[19:07] <dundundadoda> What wireless adapters have great performance in Ubuntu?
[19:07] <eeee> stiv2k_: use pastebin
[19:07] <trijntje> !paste | stevendumani
[19:07] <eeee> stiv2k_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[19:07] <stiv2k_> thanks
[19:07] <stiv2k_> one sec
[19:07] <dundundadoda> I have an Intel card in my laptop which I assume would be well supported but it can barely break 20 Mbps!
[19:07] <TJ-> stiv2k_: As I thought... check cabling, sometimes a slack connector can be enough for the DDC pin to not fully connect, and the EDID is therefore unable to be read correctly
[19:08] <cxm__> ok there is something that is preventing me from creating a virtualhost directive other than my default documentroot
[19:08] <trijntje> cxm__: what are you trying to do? Ubuntu should let outgoing traffic through by default
[19:08] <stiv2k_> eeee: TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8073649/
[19:08] <stiv2k_> i will check that now
[19:08] <cxm__> no matter what I do when I have a virtualhost directive documentroot other than my default it just hangs every site
[19:08] <dundundadoda> Usually speed is slow: 10-15 Mbps.
[19:08] <ids> anyone here who can help me getting SP/DIF getting to work?
[19:09] <stiv2k_> what do i do to get it to try to re-read the EDID
[19:09] <TJ-> dundundadoda: Wifi speed depends mostly on the antenna(s) and interference from other radio sources in the same frequency band
[19:09] <Humbedooh> trijntje: cxm__ wants to open up port 80 for incoming traffic on the machine
[19:10] <TJ-> stiv2k_: you'd need to log-out/log-in so the X server re-reads it, or you might even get away with simply disconnected the monitor and re-attaching it even
[19:10] <Daghdha> My graphics speed is fine guys. despite that message that warned me not to upgrade. so i am now on 14.04. Only issues i encountered was the disabling of remote desktop and enabling encryption by default. This is pretty deadly for people using headless systems but access them over VNC. So i had to hookup a monitor. The other issue was my resolution was 640x480 but that was fixed after removing
[19:10] <Daghdha> the radeon.modeset=0 from the grub file. Those were added in 10.01 or something by me because back then the compatibility ofthe driver cuased my screen to be black after boot.
[19:10] <stiv2k_> TJ-: does my log show anything else
[19:10] <winem> cxm__: what does iptables -L say?
[19:11] <stiv2k_> TJ-: could it be a driver bug
[19:11] <dundundadoda> TJ-: In Windows 8.1 throughput is 120 Mbps
[19:11] <stiv2k_> TJ-: i think the ubuntu supplied nvidia driver is a tad old
[19:11] <cxm__> http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/6ce0c12e
[19:11] <stiv2k_> TJ-: or maybe it chose that old driver because my gpu is old
[19:11] <dundundadoda> Is there a new version of iwlwifi I should use? Or should I get another card that has good speed?
[19:12] <TJ-> stiv2k_: I thought 304 was nvidia-current ?
[19:13] <stiv2k_> TJ-: no idea, but the 'additional drivers' page said it was a legacy driver
[19:13] <stiv2k_> which sound old to me
[19:14] <stevendumani> ok, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8073692/ what does this code say? the -d -c and why is the path ~/.conkyrc mentioned here?
[19:14] <TJ-> stiv2k_: I don't think so, the 'legacy' driver is nvidia-173
[19:14] <winem> cxm__: you executed "iptables -L" on the server?
[19:14] <cxm__> what do you mean?
[19:14] <cxm__> and my firewall seems to be inactive...
[19:15] <TJ-> stiv2k_: If the monitor is confirmed to send EDID correctly to other systems I'd be looking at the pins in the VGA plugs in case the DDC pin has been bent or crumpled
[19:15] <shmup> any tips for fglrx problems on 14.04? was working fine. newest kernel, nothing. in recovery. reinstalled fglrx. nothing. :/
[19:15] <shmup> still black screen, that is.
[19:15] <dundundadoda> TJ Is there a new version of iwlwifi I should use? Or should I get another card that has good speed?
[19:15] <TJ-> dundundadoda: I think you may have git the 'n' bug
[19:16] <TJ-> s/git/hit/
[19:16] <stiv2k_> TJ-: pretty sure the cable is fine
[19:16] <cxm__> yes I never setup any rules
[19:16] <dundundadoda> What is the N bug?
[19:16] <TJ-> dundundadoda: There's a known bug in the Linux drivers that Intel haven't/won't fix that means 802.11n mode crawls, and the fix is to force the driver not to use it, limiting to 802.11g instead
[19:16] <cxm__> so it should allow all traffic by default
[19:16] <winem> ok, but we know that there must be a firewall between your client and your server.. start tcpdump port 80 on your server and try to call the website. I guess you'll see no incoming traffic on your server
[19:17] <cxm__> perhaps if I explained my issue it might help
[19:17] <dundundadoda> Damn that's pretty sucky. So which card can I buy that has fast speed?
[19:17] <cxm__> ok do what?
[19:17] <stiv2k_> TJ-: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08172014-031633pm.php
[19:17] <TJ-> dundundadoda: Most of the iwl* kernel modules have a "11n_disable" parameter that can take several values that control how 802.11n is used, see for example "modinfo iwlwifi" (or whatever the exact kernel module for that adapter is)
[19:18] <innocent95> Hi
[19:18] <stiv2k_> TJ-: they all say NVIDIA legacy binary driver
[19:18] <dundundadoda> ok but I want faster than 802.11g speed
[19:18] <innocent95> Could you tell me how can i disable hibernate in Xubuntu 14.04?
[19:18] <html> im trying to set up a minecraft server and  i need to set the [domain.com] to my ubuntu server that host the mc sever.
[19:19] <stevendumani> ok room, please let me know if someone can answer my question even if it sounded stupid to you, i don't know where to read to learn this, please just teach me this one for now...
[19:19] <stevendumani> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8073692/
[19:19] <winem> start "tcpdump dst port 80" on your server. this will list any incoming traffic on port 80. so you should see some packages when you try to open your website
[19:19] <cxm__> so literally just type that in
[19:19] <cxm__> start tcpdump dst port 80
[19:19] <TJ-> stiv2k_: That looks like erroneous text in the nvidia-304 package's Description to me; 304.xx supports GeForce 6xxx and later
[19:20] <innocent95> How can i automatically Hibernating in ubuntu?
[19:20] <stiv2k_> TJ-: so im using the correct driver?
[19:20] <dundundadoda> Which brand/model mini-PCIe card has good speed in Linux?
[19:20] <stiv2k_> TJ-: what is the next step, since i know my cable works fine?
[19:20] <eeee> stevendumani: that's a sh script that sleeps for 20seconds, then runs conky in the background with the config file ~/.conkyrc
[19:20] <innocent95> s/can i/can i disable
[19:21] <TJ-> stiv2k_: It wouldn't work at all if it was the wrong one... drivers identify the hardware they support by the device's PCI vendor:product ID, which is unique
[19:21] <eeee> stevendumani: then exits
[19:21] <TJ-> stiv2k_: It's not unknown for the EEPROM in the monitors, that stores the EDID, to fail
[19:21] <stiv2k_> TJ-: it works with any other laptop or computer i connect to it. lol
[19:22] <stiv2k_> using the same cable
[19:22] <stevendumani> eeee what if it doesn't find the config file? does conky switch to the default config file? even if this script exists? and what about the -d and -c ?
[19:22] <stiv2k_> i just had windows xp on this box yesterday before i reformatted it and it was also working
[19:22] <winem> ok, and now try to reach your website
[19:23] <eeee> stevendumani: the default config file is ~./conkyrc , i think, and -d means (daemonize, meaning run in the background) -c means use this config file (~./conkyrc)
[19:23] <ids> is there any additional driver to install to get an Realtek ALC850 SPDIF to work?
[19:23] <innocent95> winem, Could you help me, how can i disable automatic hibernation of Xubuntu 14.4
[19:23] <cxm__> http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/06440ee0
[19:23] <cxm__> ok this is the report
[19:23] <dundundadoda> Does Linux support Wi-Fi speed > 100 Mbps?
[19:23] <cxm__> i have no idea what that is saying
[19:23] <dundundadoda> or even 20 Mbps?
[19:24] <html> im trying to set up a minecraft server and  i need to set the [domain.com] to my ubuntu server that host the mc sever.
[19:25] <deathtrip> today I was prompted on my laptop to upgrade Ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04 (well, 12.x to 14.x - I don't recall the exact versions). after doing so, now Ubuntu unhelpfully hangs at seemingly random places on boot, such as "Stopping LightDM Display Manager", "Starting NetBIOS name server", etc. anyone else run into this mess?
[19:25] <winem> innocent95: never used xubuntu but check your energy  settings
[19:25] <Beldar> dundundadoda, This is direct ubuntu support not will or what works.
[19:25] <stevendumani> eeee the default config file is /etc/conky/conky.conf and thanks for explaining the -d, I have another question.
[19:25] <stevendumani> eeee thanks for the -c too lol
[19:26] <dundundadoda> Beldar so which cards are well supported by ubuntu?
 dundundadoda, This is direct ubuntu support not will or what works. This means an installed ubuntu with problems.
[19:27] <Zakamiro> Support for something without problems?
[19:27] <stevendumani> eeee I used pgrep -fl deluged to know which deluge-daemon is running in the background, and I got this output:
[19:27] <eeee> stevendumani: if you run conky alone, with no arguments it uses the ~/.conkyrc file
[19:27] <eeee> so you'd have to change that if you wanted it to run something else by default
[19:27] <winem> cxm__: ok.. maybe it's not a firewall issue. but now it's going to become weird. which error do you get when you try to open the website?
[19:28] <cxm__> •Make sure the web address http://westgatedestinations.cloudapp.net is correct
[19:28] <stevendumani> eeee the default is /etc/conky/conky.conf ...... ~/.conkyrc doesn't exist by default. this is why I was asking in the first place, I don't have it because I didn't put it there yet.
[19:28] <cxm__> literally as soon as I put that virtualhost setting back to the default documentroot it is fine
[19:29] <cxm__> it seems as the default httpd.conf file is intereferring with the any other virtualhost directive
[19:29] <winem> do you use the apache as webserver with static content or as "web-proxy" which forwards the requests to an application server for example
[19:29] <stevendumani> eeee I used pgrep -fl deluged and got this output:
[19:29] <ids> cxm__, does the group the webserver belongs to have readaccess to your virtualhost?
[19:29] <stevendumani> eeee 968 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/deluged -d -l /var/log/deluge/daemon.log -L warning
[19:30] <stevendumani> eeee can you please explain it to me?
[19:30] <cxm__> does the group the webserver belongs to have readaccess?
[19:30] <TJ-> stiv2k_: Then something is not right in the nvidia driver. You could blacklist the 'nvidia' module and un-blacklist the nouveau module, and see if the open-source driver can get the EDID
[19:30] <stevendumani> 968 is the process ID I guess? and what about the paths?
[19:31] <stiv2k_> TJ-: i think the open source driver was worse
[19:31] <ids> if the folder were your virtualhost points to is not accessible by the webserver, your site won't be accessible
[19:31] <TJ-> stiv2k_: But I've always found the nvidia driver much more capable so I can't imagine a driver issue causing it, unless it is the older GPU in that system. You could try the xorg-edger's nvidia packages, I'm using v337 from there, It might fix it if caused by a bug in 304, for example
[19:31] <bmuk> Hey everyone; the background from lightdm is sticking around after I start xmonad, and feh --bg-fill doesn't seem to write over it. Any ideas?
[19:31] <dundundadoda> Which brand/model of wi-fi card has good performance in Ubuntu?
[19:32] <stiv2k_> TJ-: how do i do that?
[19:32] <TJ-> stiv2k_: The thing is, you can't compare Windows XP with Linux. Windows XP often has .inf driver files that tell it the possible modelines for a display
[19:33] <TJ-> stiv2k_: I'd still bet on a problem with the physical VGA connector on the system motherboard/video card
[19:33] <stiv2k_> TJ-: funny, i was also comparing how seamless hibernate always worked in windows xp on just about any machine i ever tried it on, whereas it rarely ever works on linux
[19:34] <stiv2k_> TJ-: eh. well, if i had another VGA i'd try it but thats the only one i have at the moment
[19:34] <dundundadoda> That's not a straight comparison. Hibernate and resume depend on driver support
[19:35] <eeee> stiv2k_: give gtf a shot who knows
[19:35] <TJ-> stiv2k_: I use suspend every day; this lappy often goes several months without a power-off
[19:36] <stiv2k_> TJ-: suspend works fine but hibernate ruins everything. but if i use uswsusp and s2disk then hibernate works
[19:36] <TJ-> stiv2k_: As eeee says you can provide manual modelines, via "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a Monitor section, the same way Windows does with its 'inf' files
[19:36] <stiv2k_> i will try that
[19:36] <stiv2k_> eeee: what is 'gtf'
[19:36] <ids> how does one switch between sound outputs in ubuntu?
[19:36] <Doctor_N1ck> Get the Fuck (out)
[19:37] <stiv2k_> Doctor_N1ck: thank you
[19:37] <TJ-> stiv2k_: Generalized Timing Formula
[19:37] <eeee> lol, it's gtf <resolution> <here> <refresh rate>
[19:37] <eeee> for the command
[19:38] <dundundadoda> Does the 802.11n slow speed bug apply to the new AC-7260?
[19:38] <TJ-> stiv2k_: and "gtf -x ...." for the xorg style output that can be pasted into xorg.conf
[19:38] <stiv2k_> ok
[19:38] <TJ-> dundundadoda: I have no idea
[19:38] <TJ-> dundundadoda: The only ones I know for certain are the early generation 802.11n adapters
[19:38] <stiv2k_> how do i change the pm-hibernate script? so it can call s2disk instead?
[19:39] <dundundadoda> Is there somewhere I can research linux wi-fi performance?
[19:39] <TJ-> stiv2k_: hibernate depends on sufficient free swap space, related to the RAM size
[19:40] <stiv2k_> TJ-: well it works perfectly with s2disk
[19:40] <TJ-> stiv2k_: Ahhh, OK, so a userspace tool issue then?
[19:41] <stiv2k_> TJ-: whatever the default method ubuntu implements for hibernate is broken on this machine, but s2disk works perfectly. So, how can I change the method pm-utils uses
[19:41] <stiv2k_> to make it use s2disk
[19:41] <Guest69002> hi guys, hope somone can help. im running 14.14.1 and im unable to  set   gsettings  , some work other dont ?? like this one wouldnt work ...gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.privacy remember-recent-files false
[19:41] <stiv2k_> a cursory google search brings up a guide that tells me to edit a file that no longer exists where it says it does
[19:41] <anddam> k1l_: thanks
[19:41] <stiv2k_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate#Integrating_uswsusp_with_pm-utils
[19:42] <eeee> Guest69002: you can use settings > privacy for that
[19:42] <dundundadoda> ok thanks for the help. I guess I'll have to stick with Windows 8.1 until wi-fi is better supported in linux
[19:43] <Guest69002> eee yes, but i have a bunch that i want to automate, cant understand why it wouldnt work also tried dconf write without success
[19:43] <TJ-> stiv2k_: No idea, I've never had to change it
[19:44] <stiv2k_> TJ-: where can i find out? surely it must be possible
[19:45] <eeee> Guest69002: what's the error?
[19:47] <Guest69002> no error , when issue  gsettings list-recursively >log i can see the changes has been made, but it doesnt reflect in the gui , not even after a reboot
[19:47] <eeee> Guest69002: that's odd
[19:48] <Guest69002> yep
[19:48] <eeee> are you sure it's the setting you are after?
[19:49] <Guest69002> yep. turning off history for apps and docs
[19:49] <TJ-> Guest69002: Are you using gnome-desktop?
[19:49] <cxm__> could it be anything other than the firewall?
[19:50] <eeee> Guest69002: i just tried it here, and the gui changes
[19:50] <eeee> ( nautilus )
[19:51] <Guest69002> thanks eeee  , do you use 14.0.14?
[19:51] <eeee> yes, 14.0.4.1
[19:52] <Guest69002> unity?
[19:52] <eeee> yes
[19:52] <eeee> it added a "Recent" above home in nautilus
[19:53] <eeee> when set to false it removed the files, Recent was still there, and restarting nautilus removed it
[19:54] <cxm__> would there be anything else I shoudl check in ubuntu for what my virtualhose directive is not working
[19:54] <kristenbb> how could I access a ssh server that is behind a gateway ?
[19:54] <TJ-> cxm__: that tcpdump isn't sufficient; it doesn't show the replies. You really need "tcpdump -ni eth0 port 80 and host $CLIENTIPADDRESS" - put your client IP address in there, then from the client try *one* connection, then stop the tcpdump
[19:55] <guest683> kristenbb open ssh port 22 in router
[19:55] <cxm__> when you say client up address do you mean my servers IP?
[19:56] <deathtrip> if anyone else ran into what I asked about above: 1) hold left shift on boot 2) boot into recovery mode 3) enable networking 4) after NetworkManager starts, hit ^C, then alt+arrow over to a prompt (what the FUCK!), 5) # apt-get --reinstall install gdm ; dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:56] <kristenbb> guest683: but without accessing the router configuration ?
[19:56] <deathtrip> mickey mouse ass OS
[19:56] <guest683> kristenbb vpn ?
[19:57] <guest683> kristenbb can you ping both pcs each other?
[19:57] <BasketBall> integrated 10/100 BASE-T Ethernet LAN card ethernet works wifi doesnt in 12.04
[19:58] <cxm__> tcpdump -ni eth0 port 80 and host $191.236.17.97
[19:58] <cxm__> so like that?
[19:58] <guest683> or use wireshark
[19:58] <Guest69002> eeee, thanks for your help, i never tested it in throught the lense , it does work, but it doesnt reflect under system settings, privacy
[19:59] <eeee> Guest69002: np
[19:59] <louisdk> My Ubuntu installation (upgraded from 10.04, 12.04 to 14.04) has been slow lately then I moved home to a separate partition om same hard drive, reinstalled dbus and nvidia drivers and not it's quite fast. How can it be?
[20:00] <daftykins> kristenbb: i found "miniupnpc" in the end
[20:00] <trijntje> louisdk: stuf accumulates, I also notice it, which is why I reinstall every couple of releases
[20:02] <michel_> f
[20:02] <michel_> annybody knows kali?
[20:02] <louisdk> trijntje, My Thinkpad T61p (4GB ram, 2,4Ghz Core2Duo, 720rpm hdd drive have had troubles running flash and virtualboxes lately and I was thinking of going lightwieght DE, then I notice this. Maybe I should do a reinstall.
[20:03] <rww> michel_: we don't do support for unofficial derivatives of Ubuntu here. try #kali-linux :)
[20:03] <michel_> try xubuntu
[20:03] <TJ-> louisdk: sounds like you fixed a video driver problem by reinstalling the Nvidia drivers
[20:03] <CyberGabber> kristenbb: with the route ( route add .... ) command you can add a route to the network of that gateway
[20:04] <BasketBall> integrated 10/100 BASE-T Ethernet LAN card ethernet works wifi doesnt in 12.04
[20:04] <TJ-> kristenbb: Without changing something on the gateway, you can't from outside, unless there's some port-knocking available for that
[20:05] <daftykins> ^UPnP
[20:05] <louisdk> TJ-, I think so. Before I didn't have a proper splash screen. It was puple but with blinking dots instead of proper slash logo.
[20:06] <louisdk> This is amazing. Normally then running virtualbox the machine uses over 80% CPU now it's under 20% and the machine is speedy fast.
[20:07] <louisdk> Could the have something to do with dbus being reinstalled?
[20:08] <BasketBall> can i add microsoft word art themes to libre writer
[20:09] <icewalker> hi, is an interactive locker allow users to lock desktop transparently?
[20:10] <trijntje> icewalker: xscreensaver should have a bunch of screensavers that can do something like that
[20:10] <trijntje> or at least with minimal effects over the transparancy
[20:10] <gravik> \help
[20:11] <gravik> exit
[20:11] <frank_o> Hello! How do I do `ps x` but with line wrapping?
[20:11] <icewalker> thanks
[20:12] <winem> not sure if there is a parameter for line wrapping, but ps x | cat works... but I guess it should not be more than a dirty workaround
[20:12] <frank_o> thanks winem
[20:14] <DrVali> I'm having a problem getting my wifi card to work on boot-up on an ASUS.  The card is a RT5390. It says that it is hardware locked.  If I run "sudo rfkill unblock all" then the hardware lock is removed but ubuntu won't use the wifi.  If I suspend the laptop and then unsuspend it, the wifi works perfectly.  How can I get the wifi to work without having to go through the suspend trick?
[20:15] <CyberGabber> frank_o: ps auxww  show lines wrapped in your used window
[20:16] <Naphatul> my system just crashed, blank screen and booted itself, i'm not seeing anything in the syslog, should i look somewhere else or just attribute it to a random power failure?
[20:17] <frank_o> thanks CyberGabber
[20:18] <icewalker> i found xtrlock minimal, is what i needed
[20:19] <rww> Hi. On Ubuntu 14.04, with Unity. My windows have no borders. I want my windows to have borders. How do I make them have borders?
[20:21] <CyberGabber> frank_o: beware, the command normaly is added static, so if you want the route persistent so it keeps working after e.g. a reboot, you have to save it to config files.
[20:22] <BasketBall> rww,  should i upgrade my kernel from .2.0-67-generic-pae
[20:27] <jiffe> can anyone think of why ssh sessions to ubuntu 8.04 machines don't die out if I lose internet connectivity while sessions to 10.04, 12.04 do?
[20:36] <BasketBall> how can i upgrade my kernel to 3.16.1
[20:41] <OerHeks> BasketBall, on 14.04 or 14.10 ?
[20:41] <BasketBall> 12.04
[20:42] <OerHeks> 12.04, oh, not possible, as there is no ubuntu kernel 3.16  for 12.04 in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[20:42] <OerHeks> utopic only
[20:43] <BasketBall> OerHeks,  i ran sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-trusty to upgrade it to the trusty kernel
[20:43] <BasketBall> brb
[20:45] <frank_o> What's with that dude saying earlier that Ubuntu and OpenBSD are going to merge?
[20:45] <OerHeks> frank_o, possibly a fever
[20:46] <OerHeks> or sunburn
[20:46] <BasketBall> OerHeks,
[20:47] <frank_o> OerHeks: yup thought so too
[20:51] <TedSteedly> peace
[20:56] <stiv2k_> how come it SOMETIMES shows the grub screen when im booting up or resuming my computer from hibernate ?
[20:56] <stiv2k_> and just sits there waiting for me to press enter
[20:56] <Loshki> jiffe: something to do with whether you have keepalives configured on 8.04 (which isn't supported here)?
[20:56] <stiv2k_> instead of booting
[20:56] <TJ-> stiv2k_: because it recorded a boot-failure last time
[20:56] <stiv2k_> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[20:56] <stiv2k_> ok
[20:57] <TJ-> stiv2k_: The OS is supposed to write a boot-good flag which GRUB uses to decide if it needs to wait for user intervention
[20:57] <stiv2k_>        haha "intervention"
[20:58] <stiv2k_> TJ-: another thing, how come 'spin down hard disks' option is greyed out in my power settings?
[20:58] <stiv2k_> my poor hard disks will spin themselves out
[20:58] <Loshki> TJ-: I never have a manual handy when that happens. What kind of things can I do from the grub prompt?
[20:58] <ObrienDave> BIOS setting?
[20:59] <stiv2k_> ObrienDave: talking to me? not sure? maybe? is that a common setting?
[20:59] <Loshki> stiv2k_: I used to set the spin down option manually from rc.local using hdparm
[20:59] <stiv2k_> Loshki: i would think it is an option every computer should have set by default... why would it be greyed out?
[20:59] <ObrienDave> stiv2k_, i would not know about your BIOS settings. it just came to mind
[21:00] <TJ-> Loshki: Everything... the fulll GRUB command-line is available
[21:00] <Loshki> stiv2k_: I've no idea. I don't trust GUIs. Too many bugs...
[21:01] <Loshki> TJ-: I'll read up on it, thanks!
[21:03] <TJ-> stiv2k_: greyed out? don't know, it's a stupid GUI!
[21:04] <OerHeks> who really wants a hdd to spinndown? doesn't save much power.
[21:04] <ObrienDave> increases wear and tear
[21:05] <ids> anyone here who can help me getting SP/DIF getting to work?
[21:05] <ids> spdif does show up in alsamixer, but no sound :(
[21:10] <Loshki> OerHeks: also, quieter and cooler. I'm sure many people are in the same boat I am: Tons of archived material that you only look at once in a blue moon. Why keep all that rust spinning for the occasional non-urgent access?
[21:12] <OerHeks> Loshki, sounds legit, but that would be an extraordinairly use.
[21:13] <TJ-> When you've got an array of archival disks the power-save can be quite considerable
[21:15] <TimeVirus> hello
[21:16] <djam90> I have an Ubuntu 13.10 box. I want to create a user called "dan". I want this user to have write access to /var/www to be able to FTP in to this dir and upload files. Is this possible? Currently I did useradd dan and set password, but he doesn't have access to /var/www
[21:17] <djam90> Is this possible?
[21:19] <OerHeks> djam90,  make your user member of www-data, that would be the easiest way
[21:20] <djam90> OerHeks, like this? sudo usermod -a -G www-data dan
[21:20] <Loshki> djam90: also, remember also that changes to groups means you have to logout/login that user to take effect.
[21:20] <OerHeks> yes, if your user = dan
[21:20] <OerHeks> Loshki, +1
[21:21] <djam90> hmm.. how do I log out that user if I am SSH in as root?
[21:21] <OerHeks> djam90, sounds like that user is not active now, yes?
[21:22] <djam90> OerHeks, I did useradd dan,  passwd dan "password",  usermod -a -G www-data dan,   now what?
[21:22] <Loshki> djam90: as OerHeks says, if "dan" isn't logged in anywhere doing anything, it should "just work" (tm).
[21:22] <OerHeks> login as that user, and check it
[21:23] <djam90> damn permission denied in /var/ww
[21:23] <djam90> www folder is root:root, is that why?
[21:24] <sloof> Anyone here built a kernel package using make-kpkg?  I've got some questions about excessive disk space used for the build environment and the actual package that is created.
[21:25] <TimeVirus> there about a thousand search results on how to repair a GRUB install on an external hdd- which is THE correct response -- sorry I dont have any more time to wade through it all
[21:25] <djam90> OerHeks, my /var/www folder is root:root ownership, could that be why?
[21:25] <OerHeks> djam90, " id dan'  should give you the list of permissions, does www-data show up?
[21:25] <djam90> it does
[21:25] <OerHeks> don't change that flolder, it is safe
[21:25] <djam90> inside /var/www, as dan, I run "touch test" and I get permission denied
[21:26] <djam90> the www folder doesn't seem to have group write access
[21:26] <TimeVirus> in anticipation grub did NOT install to the internal but the external isnt booting and YES USB is the first boot option in BIOS
[21:27] <Loshki> djam90: ls -ld /var/www* please, and pastebin the result...
[21:28] <TimeVirus> can anyone see me?
[21:29] <djam90> Loshki the result was simply: drwxrwxr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 17 16:34 /var/www
[21:29] <Loshki> TimeVirus: since you won't spend the time learning how to use GRUB, you're going to have to spend the time explaining your problem to us clearly enough that we can diagnose & debug it for you...
[21:29] <TimeVirus> right
[21:29] <TimeVirus> how do I start to help you help me?
[21:30] <djam90> Loshki, did you mean to do ls -ld /var/www* with the * there?
[21:31] <Guest74752> I have problems with a partition that seems to have disappeared (though reference is still there during boot.  I also have a DVD burner that has totally disappeared.
[21:31] <Loshki> djam90: I see the group permissions are root=rwx. User "dan" is not in group root, so cannot write there. I hesitate to advise you further, as I don't have a setup I can test with here.
[21:31] <TimeVirus> would you like to see the output of gparted, disk management, or fdisk -l/
[21:31] <TimeVirus> ?
[21:32] <djam90> hmm. Is it worth changing group of www to www-data?
[21:33] <Doctor_N1ck> no
[21:33] <Loshki> djam90: yes, the "*" is because I wasn't sure of the exact directory name.
[21:33] <stiv2k_> wow
[21:33] <stiv2k_> nothing works
[21:33] <Doctor_N1ck> there's no difference if www is what your web services run under
[21:33] <TimeVirus> why would my boot partition also be flagged with lba?
[21:34] <Guest74752> Btw, I just did a fdisk -l and it just brought me back to the next command line prompt
[21:34] <Loshki> TimeVirus: I haven't needed to do more than a grub re-install myself in years. Your questions are valid. I'm just not sure I'm the right person to help you..
[21:34] <TimeVirus> ok
[21:34] <ObrienDave> TimeVirus, LBA is how the system addresses your HD
[21:34] <Loshki> Guest74752: no output at all from sudo fdisk -l ?
[21:35] <ids> how do you set up ubuntu to play sound over spdif?
[21:35] <Guest74752> I had done a simple fdisk.  The sudo fdisk gave some strange feedback
[21:36] <TimeVirus> i need to figure out how to reinstall grub to the external, but like I said the search results go on for miles and what i've waded through is irrelevant so far lol
[21:36] <Loshki> Guest74752: I would like to see a pastebin of the sudo fdisk -l output...
[21:36] <Guest74752> Loshki: brb with it
[21:37] <TimeVirus> frustrating
[21:37] <TimeVirus> youtube probably has the answer!
[21:37] <TimeVirus> :)
[21:38] <Loshki> TimeVirus: I understand/sympathise. Which OS version are you running?
[21:38] <TimeVirus> Lubuntu
[21:38] <Guest74752> Loshki: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8074621/
[21:38] <phillip> hey, my packages are brocken because of libre office and the ppa. https://pastee.org/zetr7 is the problem. Anyone have a idea what I can do?
[21:38] <Guest74752> Loshki: Enjoy ...
[21:39] <Loshki> TimeVirus: even worse. I know nothing about lubuntu, and only one thing about grub. Do you know your grub version?
[21:39] <TimeVirus> grub -version in the terminal?
[21:40] <ObrienDave> !precise | phillip
[21:40] <ObrienDave> phillip, just checking ;)
[21:40] <phillip> ObrienDave: hmm?
[21:40] <TimeVirus> I'm running Lubuntu 14.04
[21:41] <TimeVirus> latest greatest
[21:41] <Loshki> TimeVirus: how bizarre. I typed grub -version on my 12.04 machine and it said "grub not installed". In which case, how does it boot? Are you sure you want to be taking grub advice from me, TimeVirus?
[21:41] <TimeVirus> lol ya me too
[21:42] <TimeVirus> o\
[21:42] <ObrienDave> try grub2 -version
[21:42] <TimeVirus> oh well
[21:42] <TimeVirus> kk
[21:42] <TimeVirus> no good dave thanks though
[21:42] <Nothing_Much> How do I set up a Samba share for an Ubuntu QA test?
[21:42] <TimeVirus> youtube it is :)
[21:43] <ObrienDave> yea, just saw that, weird
[21:43] <Bashing-om> TimeVirus: IF you know you need grub installed to the usb device; sudo fdisk -lu to identify the device name, mount the usb from terminal, and "sudo grub-install dev/sdX" where X is the identification (a,b,c ??).
[21:44] <TimeVirus> cool
[21:44] <TimeVirus> thanks
[21:44] <OerHeks> grub-install --version
[21:45] <Bashing-om> TimeVirus: Possible if Grub is hammered, will have to get more agressove with the install routine, depends on how deep you have to go.
[21:45] <Loshki> TimeVirus: well, that narrows it down a bit. Any 14.04 grub guide should work. One that gives examples for what Bashing-om describes would be the one I'd choose.
[21:45] <TimeVirus> ok thanks guys
[21:46] <TimeVirus> gotta go
[21:46] <Guest74752> Loshki: So, what is the verdict?
[21:46] <TimeVirus> thanks again
[21:46] <Loshki> Bashing-om: I typed grub -version on my 12.04 machine and it said "grub not installed". In which case, how does it even boot?
[21:47] <ObrienDave> Loshki, look up 5 lines ;P
[21:47] <ObrienDave> grub-install --version
[21:47] <Loshki> Guest74752: sorry, distractions. pls. stand by, you're next :-)
[21:47] <TimeVirus> proper syntax is grub2-install --version
[21:48] <Guest74752> Loshki: np
[21:48] <OerHeks> TimeVirus, wrong
[21:48] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know how to setup a Samba share?
[21:48] <TimeVirus> gurb for 12?
[21:48] <TimeVirus> heh
[21:48] <TimeVirus> kk
[21:49] <TimeVirus> grub 202 beta9 something
[21:49] <TimeVirus> lol
[21:49] <TimeVirus> 2
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Loshki: Depreciated -> my output: sysop@1404mini:~$  grub -version -> The program 'grub' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[21:51] <Loshki> Guest74752: looks normal enough, root on sda1. What's on sda6, is that /home ? I'm seeing a lot of "Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary." lately. Apparently harmless. Which partition has "disappeared"?
[21:52] <Loshki> Bashing-om: deprecated? In favor of what?
[21:52] <Bashing-om> Loshki: That be -> grub-install --version <- : )
[21:55] <tiemay> I'm trying to recover encryptedd data like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Long_way
[21:55] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know how to setup a Samba share?
[21:55] <Guest74752> Loshki: Hold on tight ... this is going to be fun, I think.  The 1.5T partition is the one where I had put Ubuntu 14.04.  I think that /sda6 is where there are something like 300GB (originally 352GB if I'm not mistaken) where I had installed - by resizing the 1.5T from its original 2.0T size.  And I don't understand how sda1 with its 1.5T can be 100% full
[21:55] <tiemay> I got through to the end, and the files are showing up, but they're still encrypted
[21:55] <Beldar> !samba | Nothing4You state the actual issue for help.
[21:56] <Nothing4You> Beldar: nope
[21:56] <Nothing4You> Beldar: i won't
[21:56] <Beldar> Nothing4You, Heh, your loose that is haow the channel works. ;)
[21:56] <Loshki> Bashing-om: thanks.
[21:56] <Nothing4You> Beldar: i don't have ubuntu issues here though
[21:56] <Nothing4You> Beldar: so i can't state them
[21:56] <Guest74752> Loshki: Another twist - I had had a problem with the sata wire that was broken that had been connected to the hard drive
[21:56] <phillip> hey, my packages are brocken because of libre office and the ppa. https://pastee.org/zetr7 is the problem. Anyone have a idea what I can do?
[21:57] <Beldar> Nothing4You, Thanwhy are you here?
[21:57] <tiemay> everything seems to go fine until the part where I do "6. Filename Encryption Key (FNEK) Signature:  (The second keyring in the square brackets from above that I said would be important.)"
[21:57] <Guest74752> Loshki: The original sata wire was red.  This one I replaced it with (that I had hanging around the house) is blue
[21:57] <kostkon> phillip, same here, waiting for updated pacakges. Anyway, you could try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239916
[21:58] <Beldar> Nothing4You, besides this standard help info. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[21:58] <Guest74752> Loshki: And what does that mean that partition 2 doesn't follow partition 1?
[21:58] <Beldar> the ignore fills one more chapter
[21:58] <tiemay> it says "WARNING: Based on the contents of [/root/.ecryptfs/sig-cache.txt], it looks like you have never mounted with this key before. This could mean that you have typed your passphrase wrong."
[21:59] <tiemay> it's not typed wrong
[21:59] <Loshki> Guest74752: the color of the cable shouldn't matter :-). Ok. Let's get started. First, do you have any data on this disk you can't live without? Backups?
[21:59] <Nothing4You> uhm, i feel like Beldar doesn't realize he accidently adressed me instead of Nothing_Much who was asking for help
[21:59] <Nothing4You> lol
[22:00] <phillip> kostkon: thanks a lot and even if they update the package I can not install it because my packages are brocken
[22:00] <Bashing-om> Guest74752:  Loshki :: 100% often refers to the /boot partition, and not to the device as a whole. -> df-h, df -i <- to look.
[22:00] <kostkon> phillip, only the pacakge libreoffice-base is
[22:01] <Nothing4You> Beldar: did you ignore me?
[22:02] <Loshki> Bashing-om: No running ahead, please. First we have to decide how vulnerable the data are. He's had a hardware failure...
[22:02] <phillip> kostkon: yes, but I can't anything because of it
[22:02] <[42]> Beldar: are you there?
[22:02] <kostkon> phillip, try doing what the others have done and shared how they've done it on that ubuntuforums thread
[22:02] <Guest74752> Loshki: The worry is that I had transfered from the 1.5T onto the 352GB before the problem.  I would like to recover the 352gb that was on sda6 - withour forgetting to recover the ecrypt-ed  Partition of sda6 and its 352GB
[22:02] <phillip> kostkon: okey, thanks
[22:05] <Guest74752> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8074782/
[22:05] <Guest74752> Loshki: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8074782/
[22:06] <Guest74752> Loshki: Bashing-om: But that still doesn't tell me where my DVD burner is ...
[22:07] <Loshki> Guest74752: the burner is likely a separate issue. Since you've been moving cables, are you sure the DVD is still connected, power & data?
[22:08] <Guest74752> Loshki: I checked before I got on the chat here cables
[22:09] <Guest74752> Loshki: There are two cables in the back and the light had blinked like always during boot ... when there is a support in it
[22:14] <phillip> kostkon: i have insert that line it still does not work :)
[22:15] <kostkon> phillip, same here
[22:15] <phillip> kostkon: okey, and what are you doing now?
[22:16] <kostkon> phillip, not sure. Thinking about doing a ppa-purge and a reinstall
[22:16] <kostkon> phillip, I'm still researching it
[22:16] <phillip> kostkon: how? I can install anything, so no ppa-purge
[22:17] <phillip> *can't
[22:17] <veryhappy> help, i deleted my system control center in kde, how do i get it back?
[22:17] <pers3us> veryhappy: It is just a package. Find it and install it.
[22:18] <veryhappy> i tried to find it in google, but there they just write: you can use system control center for x and y and z, but never mention the name of this package.
[22:18] <OerHeks> how did you delete it then, veryhappy ?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Guest74752: Loshki "/dev/sda6       323G  307G  146M 100% /" still bet it is '/boot'.  short cut to it -> dpkg -l | grep linux- <-.
[22:19] <veryhappy> with this stupid
[22:19] <veryhappy> apt-get autoremove -y
[22:19] <ObrienDave> don't use -y
[22:19] <veryhappy> ObrienDave: i so got it now
[22:20] <kostkon> phillip, yeah, i can't give you a definitve answer whether it will work or not. I haven't tried it myself :/
[22:20] <veryhappy> so can anyone give me the name? kde-control-center? kde-config-manager?
[22:21] <OerHeks> kcontrol i guess, better ask in #kubuntu
[22:21] <Guest74752> Bashing-om: Enjoy this ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8074883/
[22:21] <veryhappy> ah good
[22:21] <veryhappy> yea thanks, i'll ask there additionally
[22:21] <veryhappy> thanks
[22:22] <jellow> giorg, use main channel to talk.
[22:23] <Loshki> Guest74752: Bashing-om: Well, I'm still confused. /dev/sda6 is full, because 300G of data was copied to it from /dev/sda1. Have you looked for this data, Guest74752?
[22:23] <phillip> kostkon: okey, anyway /msg me if you find a solution. Thanks.
[22:23] <kostkon> phillip, ok
[22:25] <Guest74752> Loshki: What I meant to say about this is that I bounced the stuff I had on the simple Ubuntu 14.04 partition onto the Ubuntu Studio that I had installed on the sda6 partition
[22:25] <Loshki> Bashing-om: and somewhere in the middle of all this, there was some kind of hardware failure, after which the burner doesn't work.
[22:26] <Guest74752> Loshki: and the burner just died today, though all the other problems are a couple days old
[22:28] <Guest74752> has anyone seen "voidfire" recently?
[22:29] <kostkon> phillip, i may have a solution give me 2mins
[22:30] <tiemay> any idea how I can recover this encrypted data? http://www.0bin.net/paste/fNe4Ks4GWjW5Ih2h#sSbDjiwpYEoXzls3+liGUixfuJxI3-TxejccVcsYVvG
[22:30] <kostkon> phillip, yes
[22:30] <phillip> great how?
[22:30] <Loshki> Guest74752: I'm sorry. This is like doing surgery through a keyhole. I don't think I'm up to it. I think you should locate and copy as much of the data as you can, then fsck the disks, and then try and get the burner working so you can reinstall, sorry...
[22:31] <kostkon> phillip, first I did: sudo apt-get purge libreoffice-base libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice   then reinstalled them   sudo apt-get install libreoffice-base libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice    and that's it!
[22:32] <veryhappy> thank you guys, i had to find the package myself, but at least i got the right idea due to your suggestions of names, the kde control center is simply named: systemsettings
[22:33] <veryhappy> take care
[22:33] <Guest74752> Loshki: Any problem with me doing a fsck now?  I had booted recently with recovery mode and did a fsck that told me that ext4 was not mounted
[22:33] <phillip> kostkon: thanks a lot, works!!!
[22:33] <kostkon> phillip, :)
[22:34] <stiv2k_> i installed nvidia-340 but xorg isn't using it? what am i missing? i followed this: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-the-nvidia-340-24-driver-on-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-13-10-ubuntu-12-04-and-derivative-systems/
[22:34] <Loshki> tiemay: well if it's a software bug, or a disk corruption, you're screwed, so you better hope you got the key wrong. Check for capitals, white space, stuff like that...
[22:34] <daftykins> stiv2k_: this still that ancient 6100 of yours? they probably dropped support
[22:34] <kostkon> phillip, all is fine?
[22:34] <stiv2k_> daftykins: o
[22:34] <stiv2k_> daftykins: can i confirm that somehow?
[22:35] <phillip> kostkon: yes!
[22:35] <Loshki> Guest74752: in general, it's always safe to use "sudo -p <device>". Because you've had a suspected hardware failure, there
[22:35] <kostkon> phillip, :)
[22:35] <daftykins> stiv2k_: yep in the driver version release notes
[22:35] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the 304 driver sucks
[22:35] <stiv2k_> daftykins: and nouveau sucks..
[22:35] <Loshki> there's an element of risk, which is why I'd rather you looked around and copied the valuable data before you do anything else.
[22:35] <phillip> kostkon: *___* huge thank you!
[22:35] <daftykins> stiv2k_: is this trying to solve your image placement issue from earlier?
[22:35] <kostkon> phillip, np
[22:36] <stiv2k_> daftykins: yeah
[22:36] <stiv2k_> daftykins: that and because i notice the display gets all fuzzy after resume
[22:36] <daftykins> stiv2k_: sounds like you're connected via analog, VGA... did you try telling the screen to auto-adjust?
[22:36] <Guest74752> Loshki: I think I am going to lose data no matter what
[22:36] <Guest74752> thx anyway
[22:36] <stiv2k_> daftykins: yes i did. auto adjust makes it auto-too-wide
[22:36] <tiemay> Loshki: ok, I'll try again, is there a chance the cipher (e.g. aes) or byte key (16) might be different? I didn't try to customize it during installation
[22:36] <Guest74752> bye
[22:36] <daftykins> stiv2k_: no digital outputs?
[22:36] <Loshki> Guest74752: best of luck
[22:36] <stiv2k_> daftykins: not on this ancient thing
[22:37] <Guest74752> Loshki: I will need it.  Thx
[22:37] <Loshki> Guest74752: don't leave. Run the fsck and tell us what happens...
[22:38] <TimeVirus> is it not possible to paste to xterm?
[22:38] <daftykins> stiv2k_: did you start on the 17x at all?
[22:39] <TimeVirus> o\
[22:39] <TimeVirus> no clipboard in xfce?
[22:39] <TimeVirus> o\
[22:40] <TimeVirus> cant be
[22:40] <Loshki> tiemay: sorry, out of my expertise at this point. Please ask & hopefully Someone Who Knows will answer...
[22:40] <stiv2k_> daftykins: np
[22:40] <stiv2k_> daftykins: no
[22:40] <stiv2k_> daftykins: should i?
[22:40] <k1l_> TimeVirus: dont be annoying with too many lines and too less words
[22:40] <k1l_> TimeVirus: use ctrl+shift+v to paste
[22:40] <tiemay> Loshki: ok, thanks for trying
[22:41] <daftykins> stiv2k_: yeah, although it looked like your lack of EDID receipt was the more likely issue. this current version, did you download manually, or is it a package?
[22:41] <Loshki> TimeVirus: The old standby, xclipboard? cut&paste is kind of a mess. And don't get me started on virtualbox
[22:41] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i've been using 304 from 'additional drivers' since the get go. I tried installing 331 and 340 but it appears you are correct and they are not applicable to the geforce 6100 so i have removed them and am back on 304
[22:42] <TimeVirus> lol
[22:42] <daftykins> stiv2k_: wouldn't cost anything but time to go through each one that's in the repos :)
[22:42] <stiv2k_> daftykins: lol
[22:42] <stiv2k_> daftykins: can i have it show all of them on the additional drivers? it only shows 304 and 173
[22:43] <TimeVirus> try GNS3 some day
[22:43] <daftykins> stiv2k_: just run "apt-cache search nvidia-" and you'll see them
[22:44] <stiv2k_> let's see how the 173 performs
[22:44] <stiv2k_> all i need is to play youtube, and suspend/resume
[22:44] <stiv2k_> its not that much to ask for :P
[22:44] <daftykins> hah
[22:44] <daftykins> i never use such power modes
[22:45] <stiv2k_> daftykins: well, it's consistently above 90 F here and the air condition runs more or less continuously. When you have to deal with this, you learn to cut corners on energy usage everywhere you can
[22:46] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: I think you responded to Nothing4You instead of me lol
[22:46] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, Maybe one I copy and paste nicks
[22:47] <Beldar> once
[22:47] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: Try tab complete :P
[22:47] <run> galera alguem saberia com diminuir o brilho da tela do notebook no kali linux pela tecla fn ?
[22:47] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, I have been here for a long tome thanks.
[22:47] <stiv2k_> daftykins: and of course, there is a bug in xfce4-power-manager that specifically PREVENTS the system from suspending after inactivity. Just my luck
[22:47] <Beldar> however cannot spell, lol
[22:47] <k1l> run: neither kali nor that language is supported in here
[22:48] <stiv2k_> daftykins: this windows xp --> ubuntu transition is not going as smoothly as i would have preferred
[22:48] <k1l> !kali > run
[22:48] <daftykins> stiv2k_: well, you probably remember my feelings toward that hardware ;)
[22:48] <daftykins> (fit for the skip)
[22:49] <stiv2k_> daftykins: im keeping it for one more year, then, i will get a new PC for myself, my current pc will become the media PC, and that media PC will become my server, and my server will be sent to a landfill.
[22:49] <stiv2k_> that is my hierarchy of computers, ordered from newest/most powerful to oldest/least powerful
[22:50] <daftykins> :)
[22:50] <daftykins> fair enough
[22:51] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the 173 driver gets me at a 640x480 resolution :/
[22:51] <daftykins> stiv2k_: heh, compare the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8075092
[22:54] <stiv2k_> [    24.100] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0
[22:54] <rabrol> Is there any way to view a history of Harddrive spindown?  I want to check if my disks have been following the standby times I've set.
[22:56] <cxm__> can you repartion an already mounted drive to make it larger?
[22:56] <OerHeks> cxm__, no
[22:57] <cxm__> so how would I go about repartioning a drive?
[22:57] <cxm__> do I unmount it first?
[22:57] <OerHeks> cxm__,  boot the live cd, and use gparted from there
[22:57] <Beldar> rabrol, aggressive spin downs can wear a drive out faster so be aware.
[22:57] <cxm__> this is on a virtual host
[22:58] <Beldar> cxm__, does not matter
[22:58] <rabrol> Beldar, thanks.  I've set the main drive for a 2 hour spindown, and the backup drive for a 15 minute.  The backup drive only "works" once a week when being updated. This shouldn't be a problem, should it?
[22:59] <Beldar> cxm__, Standard partitions have to be unmounted
[23:00] <cxm__> yes ok so I would unmount it and then go through the partition setup procedures
[23:00] <Beldar> rabrol, NOt sure I just while looking for what you asked for came across the info, you will have to do the research.
[23:00] <OerHeks> cxm__, well, we need more info, what is your vm host, vmware, virtualbox or something else?
[23:00] <cxm__> zure
[23:00] <cxm__> azure
[23:00] <_oswald> lol
[23:00] <OerHeks> cxm__, sounds like a windows/azure issue, no experience with that
[23:02] <cxm__> well it is a Lamp setup
[23:02] <cxm__> so everything is lamp with an ubuntu image
[23:02] <cxm__> for all intents and purposes
[23:02] <daftykins> stiv2k_: if you have anything else that has digital outputs, you could save that display's EDID and use it. otherwise, someone might have it online
[23:02] <daftykins> stiv2k_: i'm not sure that'll solve your issues though
[23:04] <cxm__> ok how about this
[23:04] <cxm__> if that drive started to run out of space
[23:05] <rabrol> Beldar, thank you. I'll keep researching ideal times. I'd still like to know if there is a way to view spindown history though. Any defauly log files show that?
[23:05] <cxm__> could I just mount another drive and run sites from that folder
[23:05] <cxm__> like sites2
[23:05] <Beldar> rabrol, I have no idea.
[23:06] <cxm__> would that work?
[23:06] <rabrol> Beldar, OK. I haven't been able to find an answer of Google yet either. Thanks for the help!
[23:06] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i wouldnt mind manually specifying the information.... looks like its missing DPI value?
[23:07] <daftykins> stiv2k_: not a clue i'm afraid, can't see what you're seeing :)
[23:11] <stiv2k_> daftykins: in the log
[23:11] <stiv2k_> [    24.101] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI
[23:11] <stiv2k_> [    24.101] (WW) NVIDIA(0):     from CRT-0's EDID.
[23:12] <daftykins> stiv2k_: oh, mmm if you reverted to a driver with the correct resolution you could maybe find how to tweak DPI manually and just see how it looks
[23:12] <daftykins> i really don't know :)
[23:12] <daftykins> i'm glad to only rarely have to deal with analog interfaces for displays these days
[23:12] <Guest15363> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone could help me change a specific keyboard shortcut.
[23:13] <daftykins> ask the question and you may receive
[23:13] <Guest15363> I don't want Alr+Right Click to result in a menu.
[23:13] <daftykins> standard ubuntu has a keyboard shortcuts program underneath system settings though, that's about all i can share
[23:13] <Guest15363> I've looked in the Keyboard settings but can't find it.
[23:13] <stiv2k_> daftykins: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi
[23:14] <daftykins> stiv2k_: lightdm.conf sounds good, i believe i saw it on xubuntu under /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/<stuff here>
[23:14] <Guest15363> So it might not be possible to change this shortcut at all?
[23:15] <daftykins> Guest15363: i don't have the slightest clue
[23:16] <kostkon> stiv2k_, is it really a crt monitor
[23:16] <stiv2k_> kostkon: no
[23:16] <kostkon> stiv2k_, ok
[23:16] <stiv2k_> kostkon: its a 32" VIZIO LCD
[23:17] <kostkon> stiv2k_, a lot of monitors have buggy edids, if that's indeed the problem
[23:17] <raymondillo>    /part
[23:17] <daftykins> with a cheap brand like VIZIO, seems likely
[23:18] <stiv2k_> lol.
[23:18] <frank_o> thought for a sec u meant my company VIZRT
[23:19] <frank_o> yeah fuck VIZIO :)
[23:19] <frank_o> trying to bring down our stocks and shit
[23:20] <astory> I'm getting nothing but my mouse cursor and the default background after logging in on 14.04.  I can get to a hard terminal though - ideas on how to troubleshoot?  The resolution on the graphical frontend is also too low, happened on the same boot as the login problem.
[23:21] <daftykins> astory: this after an upgrade?
[23:21] <ObrienDave> !language | frank_o
[23:21] <astory> daftykins: no, my webcam was misbehaving so I rebooted
[23:21] <astory> I hadn't rebooted for some time, but otherwise nothing odd
[23:21] <Anastasia> Help :-)!  Just installed kde4 and I have some process (baloo_file_extr ?) hitting the HD about twice a second.  Can't kill it, what to do?  TMIA!
[23:22] <Anastasia> Can't even log out.
[23:23] <daftykins> astory: try an older kernel if you just had updates
[23:23] <frank_o> ObrienDave: calling out a "brand to be cheap" has far worse repercussions than the word "fuck"
[23:23] <astory> daftykins: will do, hold on
[23:23] <frank_o> especially considering the reputation and jobs that might be lost
[23:23] <madknight> i use the numix theme on xubuntu and after some time (some hours) there is a buggy upper left corner square (like a 20 dead pixels square) if i restart the xfce window manager then its gone, any solutions?
[23:23] <daftykins> frank_o: take your one-man crusade into #ubuntu-offtopic please
[23:24] <rww> or preferably, don't
[23:24] <rww> (I recommend a LiveJournal)
[23:24] <frank_o> dont mind me, im on no such thing
[23:24] <frank_o> those are your words buddy
[23:24] <OoTLink> hihi
[23:24] <frank_o> jesus
[23:24] <frank_o> lord have mercy
[23:24] <Sonyto> hi
[23:24] <rol01340> Anastasia: On  ~/.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc change Indexing-Enabled to false
[23:24] <OoTLink> does anyone here dual boot win8 and ubuntu with uefi on?
[23:25] <daftykins> OoTLink: people have, what would be your real question?
[23:25] <astory> daftykins: I don't have any older kernels installed... I think I removed them when I went through the recovery options.  Is there one in particular I should install? I'm on 3.11.0-18-generic
[23:25] <Anastasia> rol01340: Thought I did that, wasn't in the file though, had to add it at the end.
[23:25] <kostkon> astory, your problem is also the main symptom of a borked unity/compiz setup. you could also try resetting your unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:25] <daftykins> astory: your system isn't up to date then.
[23:26] <OoTLink> daftykins, hrmm before I ask I'm going to try one more thing
[23:26] <OoTLink> forgot about this last night haha
[23:26] <astory> ok, let me update
[23:26] <astory> kostkon: I'll try that next
[23:27] <Anastasia> Ah, perhaps that is the problem, I have no .kde4 just .kde (copied $HOME from old install.
[23:27] <OoTLink> but i did have boot manager issues
[23:27] <OoTLink> I installed the bootloader (grub2 I think, whatever is default by ubuntu anyway)
[23:27] <OoTLink> stuck it on the /boot partition
[23:27] <Anastasia> Lemme kill off the old .kde directory and log out and back in and see what happens.
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Anastasia: Lot's of hits from Goggle; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217434 ; seems relevant .
[23:27] <OoTLink> windows 8's boot manager won't send to ubuntu
[23:27] <frank_o> daftykins: at our company www.vizrt.com we use ubuntu though
[23:28] <frank_o> daftykins: together with OpenBSD. and we market both extensively. so i dont see how we're being OT
[23:28] <rww> frank_o: because this is an Ubuntu support channel, wherein we ask and answer Ubuntu support questions
[23:28] <Sonyto> no hay nadie aki
[23:28] <kostkon> Anastasia, also this http://askubuntu.com/questions/437635/how-to-turn-off-baloo-in-kde-4-13
[23:28] <frank_o> matter of fact we use Ubuntu to rule the majority of the world's TV stations
[23:28] <rww> "my company has a similar name to a monitor company someone mentioned and I cuss about it" isn't a support question
[23:29] <frank_o> rww: true that
[23:29] <Nordom> anyone ever use pygrub?
[23:29] <ObrienDave> frank_o, official Ubuntu channels require you to keep the conversation to a family friendly atmosphere. no cursing or swearing allowed. if you can't abide by that, go elsewhere
[23:29] <rww> anyways, i think we discussed this to death, back to support times
[23:30] <frank_o> rww: you're just putting words in my mouth
[23:30] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i dont know how to calculate dpi
[23:30] <stiv2k_> daftykins: my math tells me it should be 50
[23:30] <daftykins> yeah no idea
[23:30] <stiv2k_> 1360 pixels / 27.5 inches
[23:31] <astory> daftykins: apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade -y didn't get me any new packages
[23:31] <ObrienDave> stiv2k_, standard desktop DPI is 96
[23:32] <daftykins> astory: that's odd, your kernel is definitely old
[23:32] <daftykins> astory: definitely a clean 14.04 install this, yes?
[23:32] <astory> daftykins: it's definitely 14.04, according to /etc/lsb-release, but it's not a clean install
[23:33] <astory> uname -a gives: 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu
[23:33] <astory> I'm not sure how to check what version of the kernel I should have
[23:33] <alazyworkaholic> I'm having trouble installing the proprietary driver for a new Nvidia card. Nothing appears in the Additional Drivers tab of the Software & Updates interface. What do I need to do to make ubuntu notice the graphics card and give me the option to install an additional driver?
[23:34] <ObrienDave> astory,  i'm on 3.13.0-34
[23:34] <astory> oh my
[23:34] <alazyworkaholic> I have the proprietary drivers for devices (restricted) checked, and I'm 14.04
[23:34] <kostkon> !info linux-generic trusty
[23:34] <kostkon> yeap
[23:34] <astory> uh, so, graphics problems aside that needs to get fixed
[23:35] <ObrienDave> astory, i would fix that first
[23:36] <astory> ugh, I can't use dconf reset from a raw terminal
[23:37] <astory> "cannot autolaunch d-bus without x11 $DISPLAY"
[23:37] <daftykins> your install sounds pretty quirky astory, did you upgrade from 12.04.5?
[23:37] <astory> daftykins: I don't remember, but it's an old-ish install
[23:38] <astory> I'd really rather not blow it away though
[23:38] <daftykins> heh
[23:38] <astory> :(
[23:38] <daftykins> well, up to you to pick up the pieces then
[23:38] <daftykins> i've encountered a few people stuck on older kernels now and i don't know why it happens
[23:38] <astory> do you mind sharing a paste of your sources.list so I can do a diff?
[23:39] <astory> eh, nevermind, they're all trusty
[23:39] <kostkon> astory, for starters, you could paste your sources.list contents    use pastebinit to paste from the cmd
[23:39] <kostkon> !pastebinit
[23:39] <greyhet> gençler selam
[23:40] <frank_o> astory: rather, check out the openbsd kernel
[23:40] <astory> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8075411/
[23:40] <greyhet> astory
[23:40] <astory> pastebinit is awesome, thanks
[23:40] <greyhet> şş astory
[23:40] <kostkon> !tr | greyhet
[23:40] <greyhet> kırmızi şortli bak bi
[23:42] <frank_o> astory: most people don't know but the openbsd kernel is pretty much what the linux kernel will look like in 5-10 years from now
[23:42] <kostkon> astory, anything in the folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[23:42] <frank_o> don't get me wrong though, i love linux, and especially ubuntu, i use it every day
[23:42] <kostkon> astory, and what about   apt-cache policy linux-generic ?
[23:43] <daftykins> frank_o: your off topic chat is not welcome here
[23:43] <astory> kostkon: yes, I'm using the following ppas: google-talkplugin, killian-f_lux-sauxy (perhaps a problem) maarten-baert-simplescreenrecorder-saucy (also possibly a problem) steam, ubuntu-mozilla-daily-ppa-{saucy, trusty}
[23:44] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i think i need to do xrandr --scale instead of the dpi
[23:44] <astory> kostkon: apt-cache policy linux-generic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8075429/
[23:44] <astory> so it's not installed!
[23:44] <astory> installing now
[23:44] <astory> how did I boot?
[23:45] <rww> because you have some specific kernel package installed, just not the metapackage that pulls in new versions (linux-generic)
[23:45] <kostkon> astory, weird though
[23:45] <astory> oh ok
[23:45] <frank_o> sorry daftykins didn't know this was support only!
[23:45] <daftykins> frank_o: yes you did.
[23:45] <kostkon> astory, install it, then check for updates, sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:45] <frank_o> daftykins: no this is not #ubuntu-support
[23:45] <astory> kostkon: on it
[23:45] <daftykins> rww: i think this one has overstayed his welcome
[23:46] <frank_o> ubuntu as a whole can cover a wide range of issues.
[23:46] <frank_o> by all means. i digress.
[23:46] <rww> frank_o: I assure you that, as our channel /topic, and channel guidelines (which you were NOTICEd a link to and told to read on join), and I have said, #ubuntu is a support channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat.
[23:46] <astory> kostkon: no further apt changes after install... rebooting
[23:47] <rww> (as daftykins already asked you to do)
[23:47] <kostkon> astory, ?
[23:47] <astory> kostkon: it works now, yay!
[23:47] <astory> thanks so much
[23:48] <frank_o> sorry rww. i got no such link. again i didn't know this place was support only.
[23:48] <kostkon> astory, interesting development but there you go :)
[23:48] <astory> one last thing: how do I get rid of old ppas?
[23:48] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[23:48] <astory> great, thanks
[23:48] <astory> yinz rock!
[23:50] <Dragin> Can anyone tell me the proper command (i.e. apt-get foo) to get and install gtk libraries?
[23:50] <rww> Dragin: the development ones needed for compiling, or...?
[23:50] <rww> (also, GTK 2 or 3?)
[23:50] <Dragin> yay! Hard questions! lol
[23:50] <rww> easier question: what are you trying to do that causes you to ask that :)
[23:50] <Dragin> Ok, you tell me... Here is what I am doing...
[23:51] <Dragin> I am installing (and had to compile rscw. This also needed fttw and gtk
[23:51] <daftykins> you're welcome to talk without pressing enter so much
[23:51]  * rww looks at rscw
[23:51] <Dragin> I hajust didn't want to flood channel daftykins
[23:52] <Dragin> oops
[23:52] <greyhet> does anyone can run knight online on ubuntu ?
[23:52] <greyhet> with wine
[23:52] <daftykins> !wine
[23:52] <daftykins> greyhet: see above links and channels
[23:53] <alazyworkaholic> the commands "ubuntu-drivers devices" and "ubuntu-drivers list" return nothing although I have a recent Nvidia graphics card. What could the problem be? (14.04)
[23:53] <Dragin> rscw is a program that lets my computer talk to my radio (HAM Radio)
[23:53] <greyhet> what does it mean "!"
[23:53] <Dragin> basically for Morse Code operation with the computer
[23:53] <daftykins> greyhet: it is a trigger to make ubottu tell you what she just told you
[23:54] <rww> Dragin: *nod* I'm trying to figure out which GTK version it wants right now. sec :)
[23:55] <Dragin> I see. I can only assume the "latest and greatest", but then again, I know next to nothing obviously =)
[23:55] <frank_o> greyhet: you mean like this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/612189/why-are-exclamation-marks-used-in-ruby-methods
[23:55] <Dragin> oh, and daftykins, I appologize about the missunderstanding that I had with you a couple of days ago.
[23:56] <greyhet> frank_o: no i mean for channel
[23:56] <greyhet> but i understand my english is a little bit problem
[23:56] <frank_o> oh ok
[23:57] <greyhet> daftykins: also thanks i found channel about wine
[23:57] <Dragin> I only use wine when I am thirsty
[23:57] <frank_o> greyhet: no worries. if english is hard, do check out "the elements of style" by william strunk
[23:57] <reisio> I only use it when I'm conscious
[23:57] <reisio> that's a strict rule with m e
[23:58] <daftykins> Dragin: no idea who you are or what you're referring to
[23:58] <rww> Dragin: rather the opposite problem. I think it needs GTK 1, which has been obsolete for years :\
[23:58] <Dragin> or when I have no choice because the program I am using isn't native linux ;)
[23:58] <geb_> omg how much people) Hello everyone)))
[23:58] <greyhet> Dragin: native linux ?
[23:58] <kostkon> geb_, hi
[23:58] <frank_o> reisio has m e? :/
[23:58] <frank_o> man i love that dude
[23:59] <daftykins> troll status confirmed, time to be +q'd or ejected.
[23:59] <daftykins> no more warnings.
[23:59] <Dragin> Probably best then daftykins. You said something (I can't remember what it was even) and I took it the wrong way, and said something back. World War III began.... Nukes went off... World is now full of mutants. It was really quite ugly ;)
[23:59] <greyhet> frank_o: i have been studied english for 1 year, but still when i write or speak in english i confuse
[23:59] <frank_o> daftykins: please stop hitting on me man. i know reisio from other channels, was just surprised to see him here.