[01:40] <studio-user099> hi
[01:40] <studio-user099> spanish?
[14:00] <Nexus3> Hello there
[18:17] <sirriffsalot> Whenever I try to completely remove, reinstall or remove "libc6" which is causing broken packages, it wants to remove a HUGE amount of other essentials, like alsa, ardour3 and all kinds of things which are out of the question. What's this all about?
[18:17] <sirriffsalot> libc6 is currently at 2.17, when it should be at 2.15, but if I try to force the version down it tries to shred my system all the same
[18:17] <sirriffsalot> What the hell...
[18:26] <zequence> sirriffsalot: Why should it be 2.15?
[18:26] <zequence> Make sure you have the exact version for the package you want to install and do: sudo apt-get install lib6=<version>
[18:27] <zequence> Probably you added a PPA which updated it, and a bunch of other stuff
[18:28] <sirriffsalot> 2.17 is for ubuntu 14.04, I have 12.04
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> sirriffsalothp@HP:~$ sudo apt-get install libc6=2.15
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Reading package lists... Done
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Building dependency tree
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Reading state information... Done
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> E: Version '2.15' for 'libc6' was not found
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> sirriffsalothp@HP:~$ sudo apt-get install libc6=2.17
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Reading package lists... Done
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Building dependency tree
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Reading state information... Done
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> E: Version '2.17' for 'libc6' was not found
[18:29] <sirriffsalot> Long time no see zequence :)
[18:35] <zequence> sirriffsalot: I don't think those were the exact versions
[18:36] <zequence> sirriffsalot: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libc6
[18:36] <zequence> seems to be 2.15-0ubuntu10.6
[18:36] <zequence> so: sudo apt-get install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.6
[18:36] <zequence> but, there will probably other packages that are the wrong version, dependencies, etc
[18:38] <sirriffsalot> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[18:38] <sirriffsalot> And sudo apt-get -f install gets me back where we were already
[18:38] <sirriffsalot> Namely, E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[18:38] <sirriffsalot> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[18:39] <zequence> What can I say. You've screwed it up somehow.
[18:39] <zequence> You could try aptitude. It can sometimes make a difference
[18:40] <zequence> sudo aptitude install -f
[18:43] <sirriffsalot> Hmm
[18:44] <sirriffsalot> Running a .deb file should not screw my system up, that's all I did since this happened, and this is from winehq
[18:44] <sirriffsalot> I don't have aptitude, and can't install it, lol :)
[18:57] <sirriffsalot> Guess I'll ask in ubuntuforums, hopefully they can dig deeper
[19:08] <jarnos> I connected my Android device via USB using PTP connection in 13.10. File manager becomes very slow when using that folder. Is that something that is fixed in 14.04.1 and what might be the cause for the slowness? I couldn't make MTP connection work. I see the file listings in file manager, but no permissions for me.
[20:11] <holstein> jarnos: i thought that was discontinued by android?
[20:11] <holstein> jarnos: regardless, there is nothing ubuntu/linux/ubuntustudio is doing that will effect the connectivity or speed of an android device
[20:12] <holstein> there is little we are doing downstream that will have anything to do with it.. i would go back up to either #xubuntu or #ubuntu channels or mailing lists and see what issues others are having with android devices
[20:12] <jarnos> holstein, you thought what was discontinued?
[20:12] <holstein> i know, i just stopped connecting my android like that, and use the network to move files
[20:13] <holstein> jarnos: i thought "MTP connection" was discontinuted
[20:13] <holstein> jarnos: regardless, you can try 14.04 live and see.. but, there is nothing in our linux kernel that is making android slow, or not connect
[20:14] <jarnos> holstein, no, my brand new Samsung S5 mini offers MTP and PTP connections.
[20:14] <holstein> jarnos: sure
[20:14] <holstein> jarnos: then, i would take that up with samsung, if you cant get it working
[20:14] <holstein> jarnos: otherwise, try plugging the device into other machines, and other USB ports, and other operating systems.. if you think its 14.04 vs 13.10, try 14.04 live and see
[20:15] <jarnos> holstein, yeah, I am going to install 14.04.1 when I have time.
[20:15] <holstein> jarnos: why?
[20:16] <holstein> jarnos: why not just try it live, as i suggested, and make sure that it is the issue?
[20:16] <holstein> jarnos: i *always* try the live CD's anyways.. and suggest them, even if the user insists on upgrading rather than a fresh install..
[20:16] <holstein> its nice to see the *actual* kernel running on the actual hardware.. to make sure the hardware supports the linux kernel that is going to be used
[20:21] <jarnos> holstein, oh yes, I could try running live session by USB pendrive once I manage to make one. (The ISO is too big to fit in a CD.) I tried Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu Studio 13.10 to make one of 14.04.1, but it asked my password to get permissions to install Grub, which I found odd and cancelled the operation.
[20:22] <holstein> jarnos: sure, when i, or anyone else refers to "live CD" thats just the live iso downloaded and running on what you like
[20:22] <holstein> jarnos: i didnt mean to say an actual CD
[20:22] <holstein> jarnos: though, many other ubuntu flavors *do* fit on a CD
[20:24] <holstein> jarnos: you will need "sudo" or "root" access from many operating systems to do what is being done
[20:24] <holstein> jarnos: i use "unetbootin"
[20:24] <holstein> !info unetbootin
[20:24] <holstein> but, the ubuntu iso's are "dd copy-able".. meaning, you can just dd copy them directly to the usb stick
[20:25] <jarnos> holstein, but why do I need them? I am creating a live USB and not touching the system I am running.
[20:25] <holstein> jarnos: why do you need them? what them?
[20:25] <holstein> jarnos: why do you need what?
[20:25] <jarnos> holstein, I referred to "sudo"
[20:26] <jarnos> holstein, or superuser password.
[20:26] <holstein> jarnos: as i said, you need sudo or root access to have that level of control on the USB stick
[20:26] <holstein> jarnos: if you dont want to do it that way, i would run a live CD, anc unplug my current hard drive.. then, i would *know* nothing is happening
[20:27] <holstein> otherwise, read up on what is actually happening, and dont take my word (or anyone else's) on the matter
[20:27] <holstein> what do i do? i use sudo to either dd copy the iso, or i use unetbootin, which asks for a sudo password
[20:27] <holstein> i then, carefully refer to the proper drive.. and double check, or, i do it on a machine that only has the source and target drives
[20:31] <jarnos> holstein, Thanks for your advise.