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ochosivery odd, even if i set debug to TRUE in the code it doesn't print out the version statement correctly00:00
bluesabreawesome00:00
bluesabrepsutil changed in utopic00:00
bluesabrep.exe is now a function instead of a string00:00
* bluesabre wonders how many of his apps use that00:01
ochosiwow, that is "awesome"00:03
ochosiso lls would've been broken by that anyway?00:03
ochosiit's very weird how much parole's and xfpm's code look alike partially00:04
ochosi(well actually it isn't)00:04
bluesabreWeren't they both started by Ali?00:05
bluesabreand yes, lls is broken by that00:05
ochosihah, found the culprit00:06
ochosishow_version(); was called too late in the code00:06
ochosiafter xfpm already forks00:07
bluesabre:D00:07
Unit193Forking problems again.00:09
ochosimkay, pushed the fix00:12
bluesabrewoo!00:13
ochosii also found the commit that broke the version string00:13
ochosiit was after 1.3.0 seemingly00:14
ochosiso before that it should've worked just fine00:14
ochosibluesabre: so i guess after catching and fixing a bug each, we're even again now?00:15
bluesabreI've already fixed a second one ;)00:15
ochosigah00:16
ochosibut that wasn't one i discovered though, was it?00:16
bluesabretrue00:16
ochosiphew00:16
ochosidoes closing a bugreport as invalid also count as fixing a bug? :]00:20
bluesabrenot sure I'd go that far00:23
ochosii did get xfpm below the 50 bugs mark though00:32
bluesabregood job!00:51
bluesabrealmost finished with the xfpm patch00:52
bluesabreif you're willing to stick around a few more minutes to see00:52
bluesabremaking it a bit dynamic, so other settings managers can be easily added as needed00:52
ochosimm nice00:53
ochosii guess we could discuss including lls in ll00:53
ochosie.g. as a compile-time option00:53
Unit193But, .desktop files?00:53
ochosihm?00:55
ochosiwell as long as the dbus interface isn't finished there's no other way to change settings00:56
bluesabreochosi: http://imgur.com/9kpsiwB01:12
ochosibluesabre: sweet, that looks perfect!01:29
bluesabreochosi: sticking around for a bit longer?01:34
bluesabreochosi: functional diff, everything seem sane and align with what you imagined? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8067345/01:37
ochosibluesabre: looking..01:49
bluesabrefound an issue already, we have a lock on suspend button, should also set xfpm's setting01:50
bluesabrebut everything else?01:50
ochosihm, we could try to remove that screensaver-desktop file from ~/.config/autostart01:51
ochosisince it would conflict with xfpm01:51
ochosithe rest looks fine, as far as i can tell from reading the diff01:51
bluesabrewe do01:52
bluesabreline #4201:52
ochosioh, sry, obviously too tired01:52
bluesabreits not a good variable name01:52
bluesabre;)01:52
ochosiotherwise i wouldn't have been able to overlook that01:52
ochosiyeah, it's not ideal :)01:53
ochosinot that there's too much time, but we could do a dev relase01:54
ochosirelease01:54
ochosifor translators01:54
ochosiand then do a stable release + upload shortly before FF01:54
ochosior we do a stable release now and then do a .1 release for translations after FF01:54
bluesabreeither or01:54
bluesabrestable makes it easier to roll it in01:55
ochosiyeah01:55
ochosii guess the latter option is bette01:55
ochosir01:55
ochosialso gives translators more time effectively01:55
bluesabreyup01:55
ochosiso we keep the lock on suspend duplication i guess01:56
ochosiwhile it sucks a bit, i guess it's weird to move it out of this context01:57
bluesabreyeah01:59
ochosihopefully as soon as the dbus stuff is there we can move these remaining options to a locking tab in xfpm02:00
bluesabreochosi, which syncs more frequently for the lock setting, session or xfpm?02:01
bluesabreor, which syncs with which?02:01
ochosixfpm -> session02:02
ochosior actually02:02
ochosiwell, i mean: xfpm watches session and sync its settings with it02:02
ochosiit does that both ways though, if you change it in xfpm, it'll change it in session too, if you change it in session, it'll get updated in xfpm too02:03
bluesabreok02:03
ochosiso theoretically it doesn't matter for lls02:03
bluesabrebut it does if you are using xfpm not with xfce02:03
bluesabreso xfpm > session for our purposes02:04
ochosiyeah, or light-locker with the session but without xfpm ;)02:04
bluesabrephew02:04
ochosieither way, i agree, for our purposes its better to sync with xfpm02:04
bluesabretoo much complexity02:04
ochosialso, thinking of lubuntu02:04
ochosiweird02:06
ochositrying lls here only changes the config option in session02:07
ochosioh right02:08
ochosinow i remember02:08
ochosithe UI of xfpm doesn't get updated02:08
ochosiguess i need to introduce the correct xfconf_bind commands at some point02:08
bluesabreone sec02:09
bluesabreok, pull the latest commit02:11
bluesabremake; sudo make install; light-locker-settings02:11
bluesabreand I guess configure before all that ;)02:12
bluesabre*phew* lots of work02:12
ochosihttp://dpaste.com/0PS6VXN02:13
bluesabretrusty?02:13
ochosiyup02:13
ochosioh02:13
ochosihmm02:13
bluesabre-.-02:13
ochosi:s02:13
bluesabreI'll work around it02:13
ochosinah02:13
ochosino need02:13
ochosiat least not unless we want to provide a new xfpm + lls + ll for trusty in a PPA or something02:14
bluesabrequick fix so you can test02:14
ochosiok02:14
bluesabrehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8067548/02:15
ochosihm, still spits out the same error about "str" object not being callable02:19
ochosi(ran make and sudo make install after applying the diff)02:19
ochosibluesabre: ^02:20
bluesabreremove the () 02:20
bluesabreochosi: ^02:20
ochosiah silly me02:22
ochosiok, now it works fine02:22
ochosithe size of the dialog is a bit odd02:22
bluesabreyeah02:22
ochosibut the rest is all quite perfect02:22
bluesabregoing to hack that a bit02:22
bluesabre:)02:22
ochosii guess it still accounts for the hidden eleemnts02:22
bluesabreyeah, we'll have to resize down before displaying02:22
ochosiokeydokey02:23
ochosisounds good02:23
ochosisry, gotta get some rest now02:23
bluesabrealrighty, have a good night02:23
ochosibut anyway, i think this is releasable as is02:23
bluesabreI try ;)02:23
ochosiit nicely accounts for the changes in xfpm02:23
ochosiand there aren't really many other changes in the pipe for xfpm 1.402:24
ochosiand we'll have to see whether ll1.6 makes it for 14.1002:24
ochosi(i somehow doubt it, even though the dbus interface is ready apart from the missing commandline switches)02:24
ochosianyhoo, nighty!02:25
bluesabrecool, looking forward to seeing that come to light02:25
bluesabreseeya!02:25
bluesabre(-locker)02:25
bluesabreanybody around?02:44
bluesabreUnit193: poke?02:44
bluesabrenvm02:48
bluesabreochosi: just pushed a commit that should also work in trusty02:57
bluesabretake it for a spin tomorrow and let me know if it works02:58
bluesabreUpdated release notes, so now just looking for verification. :)03:08
bluesabreit also sizes properly now, http://imgur.com/JQMqUOA03:12
Unit193bluesabre: I iz here now.03:17
bluesabreI figured it out... needed to run a python command in trusty03:18
bluesabrethanks thought, Unit193 :)03:19
bluesabre*though03:19
bluesabregot any more packages to be sponsored before I head to bed?03:21
Unit193I think all mine are to be postponed or PPA'd until later.03:23
Unit193(Didn't look more into util or -mixer, seemed simple though.)03:23
bluesabreok03:23
Unit193G'night.03:23
Unit193Stargate SGA time.03:23
bluesabrehave a good night, be back tomorrow for a bit03:23
ochosibluesabre: works nicely (lls)09:42
elfyochosi bluesabre - do we have a bug kicking about where lls refuses to believe you when you say that you really don't want the screen to blank - but setting it with xfpm appears to work?09:45
ochosielfy: in trusty or utopic?09:48
ochosi(in utopic, the idea is that you only set the blanking with xfpm, lls won't handle that part anymore)09:49
ochosi(a bit less settings-duplication)09:49
elfyutopic - ok that'll be why I guess - is the option to do so being removed from lls at some point - or is that all part of what you were both talking about yesterday? 09:54
ochosiit is already removed09:55
ochosiwe just haven't done the release yet09:55
ochosiand yeah, xfpm is actually supposed to override lls in terms of the blanking settings. good to hear that's working :)09:56
elfyyea :)09:58
elfyso that all appears to work with xfpm then :D09:58
ochosianything else you noticed?10:06
ochosii mean bugwise10:06
elfynot atm - I try and pick things up as I use stuff, and of course watch what's being updated and look there10:09
ochosicool10:09
bluesabreelfy, that and the code currently in utopic fails to validate the existence of and kill light-locker and xfpm10:23
bluesabresoooo, that's the issue ;)10:23
* bluesabre works on release now10:23
elfyokey doke - glad to see you're all on top of things :)10:23
bluesabrewe try10:24
bluesabresome days10:24
elfyheh10:25
=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
bluesabrerelease done, https://launchpad.net/light-locker-settings/1.4/1.4.010:32
* bluesabre works on packaging10:33
ochosinice work bluesabre°!10:36
elfyI'd say that too - but it looks like voodoo to me :D10:37
elfyI'll just say thanks instead :p10:37
ochosi:>10:38
ochosii guess i should start drawing one of the >100 device icons we need for xfpm1.310:38
elfyochosi: we stopped doping the t-shirts for team thing didn't we?10:41
ochosielfy: yeah, that went on a halt, partly because of the alternatives for spending the money10:42
elfyshall I remove it or postpone it? 10:42
ochosipostpone i'd say, just as a reminder that we should look into spending that money wisely at some point10:43
ochosibe it to support the QA team, or to support xfce's bug bounty programme10:43
elfyyep10:44
ochosi(i'd prefer either of those options btw10:45
ochosi)10:45
ochosicurrently favoring supporting the QA team10:45
elfyochosi: got 2 items on new features blueprint - lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings into the archive and include it in seed and Create a UI for the panel-switch application on blueprints - missing from trello10:45
elfyadd them ?10:46
elfynvm - doing it :)10:47
ochosiplease do so, although i think we might postpone both10:47
elfyok10:47
elfyochosi: ok - trello and blueprints should be synced now10:54
* elfy wanders off for a while 10:55
ochosithanks a bunch elfy!10:55
bluesabrelight-locker-settings 1.4.0 uploaded to utopic11:00
ochosisweet, i have the feeling we're moving at the speed of light in comparison to 14-04 :)11:01
bluesabre:D11:02
bluesabreneed to do the greeter releases today some time11:03
ochosioh right, that one...11:03
ochosii'll be working on reducing the amount of icons xfpm currently needs for its device menu11:03
bluesabrecool11:03
bluesabrealso, glad to see the brightness icon is correct the popup menu11:04
ochosi(drawing a progressbar for the device-load-status with cairo or something)11:04
ochosiyeah, the icon should look ok now11:04
ochosiat least i hope it does now11:04
bluesabreit does11:04
ochosigood11:04
* bluesabre adds utopic to greeter daily builds11:10
bluesabreI'll test it today and add any needed changes to make 1.8.5 to 1.9 seamless11:10
ochosisweet11:11
ochosiso i guess we'll postpone the default extended desktop mode for the greeter to 15.0411:11
bluesabremight be able to crank that out by thursday11:12
bluesabre;)11:12
ochosihehe11:13
* bluesabre pulls music library to computer to test elfy's bug11:16
bluesabreelfy, does menulibre 2.0.5 in utopic seem to work as you'd expect?11:17
bluesabreit should be the ultimate, bug-free version11:18
* bluesabre needs to SRU it back to trusty11:18
ochosiheh, "ultimate bug-free version" doesn't exist i guess :)11:20
bluesabre:)11:23
bluesabreafter FF, I'll start work on the next iteration, which will add all the features knome requested11:23
ochosisounds cool11:24
bluesabreochosi, in the meantime, want to add the fancy icon you made for it to elementary-xfce?11:25
bluesabre2.1+ will include it11:25
ochosihm, true, could do that11:26
bluesabrehttps://code.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/menulibre/artwork211:26
ochosiit's appicon name is just menulibre, right?11:27
ochosi(i hope you install all of them correctly, not as _24.svg etc :))11:28
bluesabreyes11:28
bluesabreand yeah, they get installed in the right locations11:28
elfybluesabre: I've not used it since I checked the testcase - I'll give it bit of a hammering 11:28
bluesabreelfy: great, thanks11:28
ochosibluesabre: done11:31
bluesabreawesome, thanks ochosi!11:31
ochosinp11:31
bluesabrecrap11:32
ochosinow i just need to find the quickest/easiest way to draw on a gtkimagemenuitem with cairo and then i'm done for today :)11:32
ochosicrap?11:32
bluesabreelfy, I can reproduce your bug11:32
bluesabrein parole11:32
bluesabreguess that means I'll have to fix it11:32
bluesabre:)11:32
bluesabreochosi, can you reproduce in trusty?11:33
ochosiawwwh :)11:33
ochosiwhat bug?11:33
bluesabrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/135697911:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1356979 in parole (Ubuntu) "Fast forward/jog during a track changes to next playlist track" [Undecided,New]11:33
bluesabrehm11:35
bluesabremight be a new gstreamer thing11:35
bluesabreeven skipping with the slider causes it to advance11:36
* bluesabre installs totem11:36
elfybluesabre: well as much as I don't like that you can reproduce it - on the other hand I'm not going mad ;)11:37
bluesabrethere's an up-side to everything11:37
elfylol11:37
ochosiyeah, actually the skipping ahead and backwards has really become worse with gst1.011:38
ochosinot sure if it's our code or just gst1.011:38
bluesabretotem autoskips too11:38
ochosigreat :/11:38
* bluesabre builds parole with gst0.1011:38
bluesabregst0.10 does not skip to the next track11:42
ochosirighty11:43
ochosithat's what i thought11:44
ochosis/thought/feared/11:44
bluesabreochosi: want to poke around the ubuntu/gstreamer channels?11:44
bluesabreheading out to visit family shortly11:45
ochosibluesabre: will see what i can do, first i wanna fix the xfpm battery plugin so i don't have to draw the >100 icons11:46
ochosifor the various devices11:47
ochosii mean i don't know what to tell them other than "gst 1.0 sucks with skipping back and forth in a track"11:47
elfybluesabre: well menulibre appears to be ok so far, but I'll play about for a few days11:53
bluesabrethat'd be about it :)11:53
bluesabreelfy, cool, thanks again11:53
ochosihave a nice day bluesabre 11:54
elfyyep indeed11:54
ochosiand thanks for all the nice fixes and uploads!11:54
elfyI'll be about off and on now11:54
bluesabreseeya guys, hf11:54
elfyno mistaking that lls doesn't do screensaver settings now then :)13:34
ochosibluesabre: weird, when dragging a single media file (mkv, on a ssh server) to parole's playlist it adds all files in the folder23:47
ochosihave you experienced that before? guess i gotta check whether that happens with other files too or whether it's just this particular combination23:48
ochosi(works fine in totem btw)23:49
ochosiguess for some reason it takes the folder over the file23:49

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