[00:32] <shane____> I recently asked about a program that shows cpu and other system resources accross the desktop...I was just wondering what I was called, as I cant remember:p
[00:36] <shane____> anyone?  I need a system resource monitoring\ program that displays the information on the desktop
[00:42] <shane____> nothing?
[00:47] <Dragon64> conkey
[00:53] <Travis> Dragon64:  I have a small update.
[00:54] <Travis> If I lock it using xscreensaver, I am able to get back to the desktop, after startx.
[00:54] <Dragon64> well that works, sounods like a work around
[00:55] <Travis> I am going to attempt a duplication again, once it reboots.
[00:57] <Travis> CTRL + ALT + F1 did it.
[00:57] <ochosi> startx? are you not using lightdm?
[00:58] <Travis> yup
[00:58] <ochosi> you're not using lightdm but you were using light-locker?
[00:58] <Travis> yes
[00:59] <ochosi> ok, you know that can't work though, right?
[00:59] <ochosi> light-locker needs lightdm, otherwise it doesn't work
[01:00] <Travis> hmmm
[01:00] <Travis> let me rectify that problem.
[01:00] <ochosi> (guess we should've called it lightdm-locker :))
[01:00] <Travis> Let me see if I have lightdm installed.
[01:01] <Travis> I like the BSOD screensaver, so that's why I have xscreensaver.
[01:01] <Travis> lightdm is installed on my laptop.
[01:02] <bluesabre> Is it currently running? ps aux | grep lightdm
[01:03] <Travis> I can't make heads nor tails from it.
[01:07] <Travis> Ok that worked.
[01:07] <Travis> If I lock it, I can close the lid & reopen it with no issue.
[01:08] <Travis> It's when I just close the lid with the desktop unlocked.
[01:10] <Travis> That sounds a bit strange, but ok.
[01:39] <xubuntu257> +i
[01:40] <xubuntu257> Hello. I do have a question.
[01:40] <LazyUser69> Alright?
[01:41] <xubuntu257> On my software updater, ubuntu 14.04 lts was listed as an upgrade possibility.
[01:41] <xubuntu257> I run xubuntu 12.04
[01:42] <xubuntu257> Of course, I am new to xubuntu, and would like to upgrade if poss to xubuntu 14.04 lts, not ubuntu 14.04. Canyou pls advise proper procedure? Thanks
[01:43] <LazyUser69> It could be just an error in phrasing. Perhaps it means xubuntu 14.04?
[01:44] <LazyUser69> Perhaps try typing in 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and see what the output is and for what packages
[01:45] <xubuntu257> Ah. Thank you very much. Will try that.
[01:45] <xubuntu257> Signing off now. Appreciate your info.
[01:45] <LazyUser69> You're welcome.
[01:45] <xubuntu257> How does one sign off?
[01:46] <ObrienDave> close the client
[01:46] <xubuntu257> Will do. Thanks again. bibi
[01:51] <xubuntu618> hey, I need help
[01:52] <ObrienDave> !ask
[01:55] <xubuntu618> I have a xubuntu installation, and de sound is giving me little crashed, can anyone tell what it is? Thanks
[01:55] <holstein> !audio
[01:56] <holstein> xubuntu618: i would first just look for and apply upgrades,.. then, make sure its not just sound from the web, from flash, for example.. if so, it could be with the flash player version rather than audio
[01:57] <xubuntu618> it is not from flash, I have it on vlc too
[01:58] <xubuntu618> I already upgraded the system, and it didn't fix
[01:58] <holstein> xubuntu618: sure.. keep in mind, nothing is "broken" to fix
[01:59] <xubuntu618> I assume it's a bug
[01:59] <holstein> xubuntu618: ideally, the creator of the hardware would work with ubuntu/xubuntu/linux to make sure you have a flawless experience.. if they dont, then, its up to you to see what the issue is
[02:00] <holstein> what do i do? i usually follow the link i gave. i'll try "aplay -l" and see what is listed, and google search "ubuntu + that output" and see if anyone else has issues with it
[02:01] <holstein> i'll try different live CD's since a different kernel and/or alsa version can really make or break that support.. i'll try as far upstream as possible.. with ubuntu or alsa directly, for example, since its not really related directly to xfce or xubuntu, and there is not reaons to narrow the search
[04:24] <quantibility> hey how do i install a SH extension?
[04:25] <quantibility> nm ill look it up but ill be back for sure if i can't find it
[04:53] <xubuntu450> I want to change my screen resolution to 1400x900 but I can't, I have Xubuntu 14.04
[07:36] <csenger41> hello
[07:36] <csenger41> someone tell me please what is the command for alt-tab in keyboard shortcuts? accidentally removed it
[07:38] <elfy> 2 ticks - not going to try writing it - will get a screenshot ...
[07:39] <elfy> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-170814-083849.php
[07:41] <csenger41> thank you very much! :)
[07:41] <elfy> welcome
[07:43] <csenger41> okay FML it's not working
[07:43] <csenger41> looking into it a bit
[07:47] <csenger41> okay, no idea why it isn't working
[07:48] <csenger41> what program di you use when taking SS?
[07:48] <elfy> people have had issues with changing shortcuts, was a workround for that, but I'm not sure it's going to help you - but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1292290/comments/12 just in case
[07:48] <elfy> csenger41: just the normal xubuntu tool
[07:51] <csenger41> but the command should be cycle_windows_key
[07:51] <csenger41> is that correct?
[07:53] <elfy> csenger41: yep
[07:53] <MohamadF> hi there, how can i use my laptop webcam in xubuntu?!
[07:54] <csenger41> you wanna take pictures with it?
[07:56] <elfy> MohamadF: do you mean what apps to use or do you mean that it doesn't work?
[07:59] <MohamadF> elfy: no i dont know! im new in GNU/Linux
[07:59] <elfy> ok - well it depends what you want to do then, I only use webcam for hangouts and it just works
[08:00] <MohamadF> ok, that means i cant use my webcam as a camera in ubuntu?
[08:00] <elfy> I didn't say that ...
[08:01] <elfy> try it - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Testing_Your_Webcam_Using_Cheese
[08:02] <csenger41> hello, I'm back
[08:02] <csenger41> @MohamadF: did you find and answer?
[08:02] <MohamadF> cheese?! ok, thank u
[08:03] <MohamadF> i think yes! :D
[08:03] <csenger41> well, I made a restart, but alt+tab is still not working
[08:03] <csenger41> failed to execute process
[08:04] <elfy> csenger41: I'm not sure then
[08:05] <elfy> csenger41: I'll boot a vm to trash and see if I can reproduce
[08:06] <csenger41> I changed it skippy-xd
[08:06] <csenger41> but don't like it
[08:13] <elfy> csenger41: ok so just <Alt>Tab doesn't work - you need /xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Tab as property
[08:15] <csenger41> as command?
[08:16] <elfy> property /xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Tab, type string, value cycle_windows_key
[08:16] <csenger41> problem is that I don't know what is that program you are using to edit this
[08:17] <csenger41> it's been 2 years since I last used Xubuntu, got really out of it :S
[08:17] <csenger41> brb restart
[08:21] <csenger_> I'm back
[08:23] <elfy> csenger_: settings - settings editor - then you'll see the same as the screenshot
[08:24] <csenger_> ohh cool, thanks :)
[08:25] <elfy> there's a lot more there than in the keyboard - shortcuts tab
[08:26] <csenger41> string type?
[08:27] <elfy> yep
[08:28] <csenger41> cool, thanks :
[08:28] <csenger41> :)
[08:28] <csenger41> it's working like wonder
[08:28] <elfy> workinig now?
[08:28] <elfy> awesome :)
[08:29] <csenger41> :)
[08:33] <csenger41> well, thanks for the help, now I can continue personalizing
[08:33] <csenger41> it's such a pleasure after Windows
[08:35] <Red_> Good day everyone :)
[08:35] <csenger41> good day to you too
[08:35] <ARM9> good (UGT) day
[08:37] <csenger41> any ways to stop panel window from blinking when there is something happening there?
[08:38] <csenger41> like when I get a Skype message, it just keeps blinking and it's pretty annoying
[08:39] <Red_> I got it too ) But I can say that Linux version of Skype it's .... hmmmm ... not goode version :)
[08:39] <Red_> * good, sorry )
[08:40] <ARM9> who needs skype when there's irc
[08:40] <Red_> :))))))))
[08:41] <csenger41> well it's much better than Windows version
[08:41] <csenger41> at least it has tabbed windows option
[08:42] <Red_> It's faster - it's real, but by calling I have some scratching ) I think that may be it can change this settings .... but how ..., I don't know ) Third time by three days I reinstall Xubuntu ... :)
[08:42] <csenger41> Ctrl + O
[08:42] <csenger41> sound devices
[08:43] <csenger41> open pulse audio volume control
[08:43] <Red_> Thanks, I try it :)
[08:44] <Red_> Sorry, need to reboot :)
[08:45] <csenger41> kk
[08:50] <Slumlord_> hi anybody recommend software shows thumbnails of your videos? I did try something called thunar
[08:50] <Slumlord_> shows most of them but a couple
[08:50] <Guest13042> Thunar it's default file manager ...
[08:50] <csenger41> I would be interested in this too
[08:51] <csenger41> though didn't look into it yet
[08:51] <james0r2> Slumlord_, i think you need ffmpegthumbnailer, maybe that's it
[08:51] <Slumlord_> yeah i can see if i tried that
[08:52] <Guest13042> Can anyone tell what settings need to connect to this chat by XChat app?
[08:52] <Slumlord_> thanks james giving it a try now
[08:52] <Guest13042> What's server?
[08:52] <gggs> Guest13042: IRC settings?
[08:52] <Guest13042> Yes
[08:52] <elfy> Guest13042: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[08:52] <elfy> in the channel box use #xubuntu
[08:53] <gggs> --^
[08:53] <Guest13042> ok Thanks to all, I try )
[08:53] <james0r2> Slumlord_, and then for me, Thunar is set to only shows previews for local files, in case you're viewing non-local stuff.
[08:54] <james0r2> just got a samsung 300e4x notebook, about to install 14.01.1 on it
[08:54] <Slumlord_> do i need thunar james?
[08:54] <Slumlord_> or is ffmepgthumbnailer better?
[08:54] <james0r2> Slumlord_, only if that's the file manager you prefer. i suppose you don't need it.
[08:55] <james0r2> Slumlord_, ahh yes. you need thunar. ffmpegthumbnailer is only for displaying video previews
[08:55] <Slumlord_> k
[08:55] <james0r2> Slumlord_, you don't actually execute ffmpegthumbnailer. only instlal the package and it magically works.
[08:56] <james0r2> Slumlord_, once you've installed ffmpegthumbnailer, open thunar and you should see video thumbnails
[08:56] <Slumlord_> i do for the most part
[08:56] <Slumlord_> just a couple stubborn ones
[08:57] <james0r2> interesting. i remember not seeing any before installing that.
[08:57] <james0r2> Slumlord_, did you already have ffmpegthumbnailer installed?
[08:57] <Slumlord_> i did not no
[08:57] <Slumlord_> i installed rebooted
[08:58] <james0r2> Slumlord_, no need to reboot i dont think
[08:58] <Slumlord_> yeah same thing
[08:59] <Slumlord_> most of them show all but 2
[08:59] <james0r2> Slumlord_, what's the file format?
[08:59] <Slumlord_> flv
[08:59] <james0r2> should handle flv
[08:59] <james0r2> local file right?
[09:00] <Slumlord_> on usb pen drive
[09:01] <james0r2> can't remember if i tried that.
[09:06] <james0r2> Slumlord_, not sure how relevant this is but --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1710653
[09:07] <Slumlord_> k
[09:27] <Slumlord_> odd james
[09:27] <Slumlord_> i got it
[09:27] <Slumlord_> uninstalled thunar
[09:27] <Slumlord_> vlc wasn't work right uninstalled it
[09:28] <Slumlord_> asked what i wanted to use to open and i choose nautilus
[09:28] <Slumlord_> it all kicked right in
[09:31] <james0r2> Slumlord_, so you have thumbnails in thunar too? or just nautilus
[09:31] <Slumlord_> i dumped thunar
[09:32] <Slumlord_> uninstalled it
[09:32] <james0r2> Slumlord_, yeah nautilus uses totem for thumbnails according to that forum i linked you to, and also has some additional settings for video previews.
[09:33] <james0r2> i use nemo which is a fork of nautilus because i can have folders remember which way view files/dirs
[09:34] <james0r2> glad you got that squared away though. well i'm off. take it easy
[09:35] <Slumlord_> appreciate it
[09:35] <Slumlord_> thanks
[09:36] <Slumlord_> now to get it working on desktop pc as well
[10:05] <Newtoxubuntu> hi, i am new to xubuntu and I need some help. I have created a panel and placed different launchers on it (finally after a couple of hours..). However I want to create a launcher icon for a specific folder. It would be like a shortcut/quicklauncher to a specific folder. how would I do this?
[10:12] <elfy> Newtoxubuntu: make a new launcher then I have (in the past) then used this for the command Thunar file:///path/to/folder
[10:12] <Travis> Can someone explain to me this:  Why don't I need to make an install out of python source code?  I can click right on a python script file and the program starts.
[10:13] <ARM9> because python is interpreted/jit compiled
[10:13] <ARM9> most linuxes come with python 2.x preinstalled
[10:13] <Travis> Is it possible to make an install file out of the source code?
[10:13] <ARM9> what sort of install file?
[10:14] <Travis> I am attempting to install a program called "CHIRP" (ham radio programmer).
[10:14] <Travis> Something to work with *Ubuntu.
[10:15] <Travis> I know CHIRP will work by itself, because it's python based & doesn't need that, but was wonder if I could anyway.
[10:15] <ARM9> I don't know what the standard install directory is for scripts, maybe usr/local/sbin
[10:16] <ARM9> or just /usr/local/bin
[10:16] <Newtoxubuntu> elfy: OMG you are a godsend. took a bit of trial and error but i got it! THANKS :)
[10:18] <Newtoxubuntu> man but this is freaking complex to make a shortcut to a folder on the panel.
[10:25] <elfy> I tend towards using places in the panel and my bookmarks from thunar show there
[10:29] <Alopex> hi all, i am using Lubuntu,Backbox(xfce Debian,Ubuntu),Mint since a couple years now.. are there any differences between Xubuntu and Ubuntu apart from the UI ? because i really like xfce ..
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Alopex, xubuntu has different default apps.
[10:31] <Newtoxubuntu> elfy: oh interesting. I will give that a try :)
[10:31] <Alopex> cfhowlett: and other than that nothing?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Alopex,
[10:32] <elfy> Newtoxubuntu: also you could if you had a whole bunch of them create a menu in whiskermenu and populate that with the relevant folder locations - bit of work too though
[10:33] <Alopex> ubottu: sure, but driver, kernel  -wise same right?
[10:33] <Alopex> lol
[10:34] <elfy> Alopex: all the 'base' remains the same
[10:35] <Alopex> ye thx all i guess i'll stick to xfce (with xubuntu) . like it much more than unity..
[10:36] <Newtoxubuntu> elfy: i'll give them all a try and see which one i like best, thanks :)
[10:37] <elfy> welcome - choice is good :)
[10:38] <Newtoxubuntu> and does linux not need antivirus software? i couldn't find anything when i searched in the software updater thing. sorry if this is a ridiculous question; but first time using any sort of linux based os
[10:38] <ARM9> generally no
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !virus | Newtoxubuntu
[10:38] <ARM9> there are exceptions
[10:39] <ARM9> like rootkits and viruses running in wine
[10:41] <Newtoxubuntu> ah ha, gotcha. i do have plans to get wine so i guess i would need to eventually get an anti-virus
[10:42] <Newtoxubuntu> but if i get wine, cant i just install the windows version of an antivirus technically? for instance, avast?
[10:42] <ARM9> depends how much you like clicking weird executable files
[10:42] <ARM9> technically wine shouldn't be able to mess up your linux system unless you give it permission, I don't know what sort of default permissions the wine build in ubuntu repos comes with
[10:43] <ARM9> hopefully it doesn't give wine read or write permissions anywhere but ~/.wine
[10:44] <Newtoxubuntu> oh boy. this linux thing just gets more and more complex as i go.
[10:44] <ARM9> permissions are simple
[10:44] <Newtoxubuntu> today is day 3 of my first linux os. I have never googled so much in my life
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Newtoxubuntu, it's actually quite similar to windows/OSX.  Linux DOES require that you actually THINK, however.
[10:46] <ARM9> that's a confusing statement
[10:47] <Newtoxubuntu> ARM9: I agree
[10:47] <Newtoxubuntu> cfhowlett: i dont know. I tried PClinuxOS but couldn't figure out how to customize things and didn't seem like it was used as much as some of the other linux systems so i went ahead and got xubuntu
[10:47] <Newtoxubuntu> makes it easier to google.
[10:48] <ARM9> most popular linux distros are relatively similar because they are shipped with the popular window managers
[10:48] <Newtoxubuntu> but my point is: having only used windows before. they way things work is completely different. with so much new terminology
[10:49] <Newtoxubuntu> ARM9: i did not know that, but that makes sense now.
[10:50] <ARM9> some are shipped with more bloatware than others (GIMP, browsers, games, media players, KDE etc.)
[10:53] <Newtoxubuntu> so on the ultimate boot CD, there is a linux desktop that has a very nice CPU specs monitor (like CPU, RAM, TEMP, etc) anyone have any recommendations?
[10:54] <Newtoxubuntu> ARM9: ugh bloatware :/ luckily i have lots of experience removing it :)
[10:55] <ARM9> xubuntu is relatively good on that part as far as "user friendly" distros go, it ships just under 1GiB.
[10:57] <Newtoxubuntu> yeah, i really like it so far. if it wasn't for the death of windows xp, i never would have bothered.
[10:58]  * elfy moved when win2k was a bit doddery
[11:23] <Newtoxubuntu> can I get conky for xubuntu? when I search the software update how come it doesn't show?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !info conky
[11:23] <Newtoxubuntu> nvm
[11:23] <Newtoxubuntu> got it work! hehe
[11:23] <Newtoxubuntu> but thanks :)
[12:06] <second> hello. Can anybody tell me how to make xfce ask for pasword on logon?
[12:06] <ARM9> anyone know what the us ansi keyboard layout is called in the settings?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> second, when logging in?  user account settings > assign a passord
[12:07] <cfhowlett> *password*
[12:09] <second> users and groups?
[12:09] <second> it says it is asking on login, but it is not :/
[12:10] <cfhowlett> second, does the account have a login password?
[12:10] <second> i dont think it does. i know i have ot put in a password for some things
[12:11] <ARM9> you need to set a password for your user
[12:11] <ARM9> the passwords you're talking about is likely the password you set for su
[12:11] <cfhowlett> second, if no password on the account, no login password required
[12:13] <second> that makes sense, however the settings are telling me it is set, clearly it is not. I will try to reset the system. I will set a password to clear it, then set the real one again
[12:14] <czuch> hi, I just run a system update on a 14.04 xubuntu install that was left untouched for a few months. I have gedit as part of the startup applications, and that went fine until the update. Now it takes 10s between the moment the desktop loads and the moment gedit appears (SSD, 4GB RAM and Core i3, the system is idle like waiting for some timer before it launches gedit). Any ideas on how to get gedit to show up earlier? This is a computer
[12:28] <xubuntu880> hi
[12:28] <xubuntu880> im instaling newest xubuntu and i have trouble
[12:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, details
[12:29] <xubuntu880> there was information "running post-installation triger-procesing" or something like that
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !details
[12:29] <xubuntu880> and then my screen turned off
[12:29] <xubuntu880> oh sry
[12:30] <xubuntu880> !details there was information "running post-installation triger-procesing" or something like that, and then my screen turned off
[12:30] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, screen saver or power loss?
[12:30] <xubuntu880> screen saver
[12:30] <xubuntu880> and my mouse not respond
[12:30] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, would not effect the installation
[12:30] <xubuntu880> soo i need to wait ?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, call up a terminal and see what's happening
[12:31] <xubuntu880> Ctrl+Alt+F1 right ?
[12:32] <xubuntu880> its not working :c screen is still in saver mode
[12:32] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, is your hard drive still chirping?
[12:32] <brainwash> czuch: does this problem also affect other user accounts? if there are no other, create a new one to test it
[12:33] <xubuntu880> yes but my cd-drive is silent now
[12:34] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, HDD active = working.  give it another 10 minutes or so.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, awaking from sleep is a known problem with some laptops
[12:34] <xubuntu880> its PC
[12:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880, ...
[12:35] <xubuntu880> and before screen turned off my mouse doesnt respond like it was big lag
[12:35] <xubuntu880> the progress bar stop moving
[12:35] <xubuntu880> so i think that it just hang out
[12:36] <cfhowlett> xubuntu880 .. ehhhhhhh ... wait 10 and hard reset
[12:36] <xubuntu880> kay
[12:43] <m3n3chm0> hello, how can reestablish thunderbird here, in the indicator applet...
[12:43] <m3n3chm0> http://i61.tinypic.com/2vt79zb.png
[12:43] <m3n3chm0> ?¿
[12:48] <xubuntu880> after reboot it says "invalid partition table"
[12:49] <xubuntu880> in bios
[12:49] <xubuntu880> i mean in HardWare monitor
[12:49] <xubuntu880> like it's not recognize system
[12:50] <xubuntu880> halp
[13:45] <ruslan_osmanov> hi, I've got asus x751l laptop. The function keys work, except brightness. This is a standard xubuntu 14 lts setup. How do I fix the function keys? I guess there're workarounds like binding keys via xbind / xbacklight. But I guess there should be more elegant way.
[13:46] <ruslan_osmanov> should I add the kernel option to grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"?
[14:31] <LinuxNewbie> hi, can someone direct me to a good guide on how to use wine
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !wine
[14:32] <LinuxNewbie> thanks, will give that link a try :)
[14:34] <WLM> !help
[14:35] <WLM> Oh okay, does a list of ubottu comments exist?
[14:35] <WLM> !about
[14:36] <ObrienDave> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[16:58] <iliketurtles> hey this may be a dumb question but where is there no linux specific antivirus program, all the ones I can find are more for scanning for windows viruses in linux
[16:58] <iliketurtles> I know there are only a small handful of linux viruses but still
[16:59] <ahklerner1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[17:01] <iliketurtles> does clamav scan for linux viruses as well as windows viruses?
[17:11] <ahklerner1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#For_Linux-specific_threats
[17:15] <quantibility> Can someone help me add my java directory to my enviromental  varibles nothing i do seems to work..
[17:19] <LazyUser69> Yes iliketurtles, I think ClamAV does scan for Windows viruses as well, they will be probably prefixed with W32 or something.
[17:20] <iliketurtles> Thanks
[17:21] <LazyUser69> I believe some sysadmin's have used it to scan attachments on mail systems.
[17:30] <LazyUser69> Now what I'm wondering, is what happened to the gui software updater in xubuntu? I don't see it in 14.04 now.
[18:15] <SandJ> Simple boot question.  I installed Mint on /sda7 to test something and now it defaults to that instead of Xubuntu on /sda5.  How do I make /sda5 the default partition to load up?
[18:16] <bazhang> change the boot order in grub you mean? or bios for hdd?
[18:17] <SandJ> When you are offered the list of Linuxes to boot from and have 10 seconds to choose.  That screen.
[18:18] <SandJ> So I must mean the boot order for grub.
[18:18] <bazhang> you wish to change the timeout to longer?
[18:18] <bazhang> have you read the grub2 wiki yet?
[18:18] <SandJ> I can see the answer now in Google.  I needed to search for 'change boot order for grub'  and not 'change default partition'
[18:19] <bazhang> !grub2
[18:19] <bazhang> there's the wiki, and also #grub on freenode here
[18:19] <SandJ> OK, thank you.
[18:19] <bazhang> np
[18:27] <SandJ> Oh lordy.  A part of my brain had been locked away, suppressed by trauma.  I suddenly recall the days spent trying to recover non-booting PCs after I tried editing grub settings in the past.  Never mind.  I had actually forgotten what an utter abortion grub is.  I had a fantasy vision of it being 'sudo grub-something --default /dev/sda5' !
[18:31] <gatis> Hi
[18:31] <gatis> Why i don't see in menu any settings?
[18:33] <gatis> any idea?
[18:47] <elfy> SandJ: what generally works for me is - boot into the one I want grub to run from then sudo grub-install /dev/sda followed by sudo update-grub
[19:03] <SandJ> elfy: thank you.  I'll dedicate my next beer to you.  ;-)
[19:22] <SandJ_II> elfy, just to confirm it worked for me.
[19:25] <innocent95> Hi
[19:25] <innocent95> how can i disable the automatic hibernation?
[19:31] <innocent95> Can anybody help me?
[20:26] <stemid> how do I open the appearance gnome settings panel? gnome-control-center appearance does not exist.
[20:28] <holstein> stemid: you are on xfce.. what are you trying to do?
[21:18] <xubuntu485> hello?
[21:18] <ObrienDave> yes?
[21:20] <xubuntu485> I have just installed xubuntu and i noticed that i cant align windows automatically to left and right like in windows 7 or other linux distros is that normal?
[21:21] <xubuntu485> i mean when draggin a windows to left or rigt makes the window auto resize to the half of the screen :)
[21:21] <xubuntu485> Hope you understand my english
[22:07] <Travis> Dragon64:  Now my laptop is doing the "stay black after lid open" thing, even after locking the desktop.
[22:07] <Travis> Dang Intel video driver.
[22:08] <Dragon64> that thing is kicking your butt
[22:09] <Travis> I just can't close the lid.
[22:09] <Dragon64> the only reason i close the lid on mine is baause i have cats
[22:26] <ahklerner1> Travis: i changed my power settings to 'Suspend' instead of 'Lock Screen'
[22:26] <ahklerner1> and it helped my issue
[22:26] <ahklerner1> i do not like that it doesnt require a password but
[22:26] <ahklerner1> better than stuck in black screen
[22:27] <Travis> Is that done when you adjust the power settings?
[22:27] <ahklerner1> yes
[22:27] <Travis> what about under light locker?
[22:27] <ahklerner1> light locker is the problem it seems
[22:27] <Travis> Hmmm, turning it off.
[22:28] <Travis> That isn't the problem.
[22:29] <Travis> I think it's my graphics card.
[22:29] <ahklerner1> on my system the issue seems to be that when i close the lid and it suspends, when opening the lid, it asks for password, then goes black
[22:29] <ahklerner1> when it is black light locker has switched the video back to 7 but the screen is not turned on
[22:29] <Travis> Mine stays black after reopening.
[22:30] <ahklerner1> check with ctrl alt 6 and 7 and 8 when its black
[22:30] <ahklerner1> see if 6 is terminal, 7 black, and 8 cursor (light locker)
[22:31] <ahklerner1> F5, F6, F7 obv
[22:31] <Travis> Nothing.
[22:32] <ahklerner1> you have a different problem than i had then
[22:32] <Travis> One nasty video card.  I heard the Intel 915 has some major issues.
[22:58] <Travis> Maybe if I get a different laptop some day, I can try Xubuntu again.
[23:15] <Travis> Thank you Dragon64.  Your suggestion worked.
[23:16] <Dragon64> cool
[23:16] <Dragon64> I hate to resort to that but what the hey