[05:15] <mpbill> hello
[05:15] <Gatis> hi
[05:17] <mpbill> so I have this weird problem, sometimes my trackpad and keyboard are unresponsive.  but only after a restart.  any ideas?
[08:42] <christatedavies> I’m struggling to get x11vnc to allow connection before login. Can anyone suggest anything? I spent most of yesterday following instructions I found through searches, but nothing seems to work
[08:42] <christatedavies> Lubuntu 14.04
[08:48] <Unit193> Could make an upstart job that runs it on login-session-start
[08:50] <Unit193> christatedavies: http://paste.openstack.org/show/lgBuDNdKo7vCqgpkzVpH/ may not be pretty (DISPLAY stuff), but it works.  Made for lan, no pass.
[08:51] <christatedavies> Thanks, I’ll read this now
[08:54] <christatedavies> just rebooting
[08:55] <christatedavies> No, that didn’t work
[08:55] <christatedavies> I take it, lightdm is the default manager?
[08:55] <Unit193> Yes it is.  I take it you didn't look at the pre-start script?
[08:56] <christatedavies> erm...
[08:56] <christatedavies> i used the script in that link you sent me
[08:56] <christatedavies> i copied it into /etc/init/x11vnc.conf
[08:57] <Unit193> In the pre-start script, it sources /etc/default/x11vnc and checks to see if it's enabled.
[08:59] <christatedavies> is pre-start the same as upstart?
[08:59] <christatedavies> sorry, i’m a bit of a beginner with linux
[09:00] <christatedavies> i don’t have a /etc/default/x11vnc file actually
[09:00] <christatedavies> which is odd as i seem to remember creating one (i’m sure of it)
[09:00] <Unit193> It's part of the upstart unit.  Just take out the pre-start section and you should be better.  Yes, you won't unless you made it, this is part of a personal package for me.
[09:01] <christatedavies> oh i see. sorry
[09:01] <christatedavies> so if i had a /etc/default/x11vnc file with ENABLED=true in it, it would continue
[09:01] <Unit193> (If it weren't just for myself, it'd source /etc/default/x11vnc for more than if it's enabled, command options and password for some.)
[09:02] <Unit193> Yep, that's the idea.
[09:02] <christatedavies> okay thanks, rebooting again
[09:02] <christatedavies> was driving me mad yesterday
[09:02] <Unit193> sudo service x11vnc restart  may help more if you're still at the login screen (ssh'd in or whatnot.)
[09:03] <christatedavies> its pretty quick to reboot tbf
[09:03] <christatedavies> super
[09:03] <christatedavies> works a treat, thanks so much man
[09:03] <Unit193> No problem.
[09:03] <christatedavies> i must’ve read about a dozen guides for doing this
[09:04] <christatedavies> but i’m not sure they were for 14.04
[09:04] <christatedavies> I edited /etc/lxdm/LoginReady from one guide
[09:04] <christatedavies> I’ve probably gotten confused over display managers and xwindow managers etc
[09:05] <Unit193> LXDM, that's the login manager no longer used.  http://mlepicki.com/2011/10/remote-vnc-login-to-ubuntu-11-10/ will generally give you the right idea, see comments for how to set the password.
[09:06] <christatedavies> no worries, already set the password
[09:06] <christatedavies> thanks so much again
[09:07] <Unit193> Sure thing, have fun.
[10:47] <kll_work> Where is the default lightdm.conf in lubuntu? There is no /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf =(
[10:50] <kll_work> phillw: do you know something? =)
[10:58] <kll_work> ok it is in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/20-lubuntu.conf :D
[10:58] <kll_work> yo baby o baby yo!
[16:14] <vrkalak> I am a Debian-Maintainer for Fluxbox packages and a Dev/Tester for Xfce ... I keep having my eye on LXDE.
[16:15] <vrkalak> I so want, to have a great LXDE ... ??
[16:17] <vrkalak> I have a download and  installed several OS-distro version of LXDE, though the years
[16:21] <phillw> vrkalak: lxde is now 'frozen'. Bug fixes and looking after pcmanfm are about all that will continue. LXDE has merged with Razor-QT to for LXQT. LXQT is available for testing, but is not yet completed enough for release.
[16:21] <phillw> *LXQt* (oops)
[16:23] <phillw> vrkalak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/14.10 AFAIK, Qt5 has arrived, but you'd need to ask the people developing if that is fully the case.
[16:42] <vrkalak> Lubuntu has a the best LXDE ... are they going to LXQT ?  I have a Qt-5 in my Xfce.
[16:44] <vrkalak> I have a distro version of Slackware with Razor-Qt ....
[16:56] <phillw> vrkalak: there is a daily build, which Julien refers to. is at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-daily?field.series_filter=
[16:56] <phillw> Some of the brave are running it, but I'm still minded to run it as a VM at present, a lot of work is going on :)
[16:57] <phillw> rafaellaguna: has Qt5 landed yet ?
[16:57] <holstein> if/when upstream moves, then, it'll be "Easier"
[16:59] <phillw> holstein: indeed, it does take a while to get things onto debian.. hence Julien doing somee of grunt work on ppa (Reminds me of the old days :P )
[16:59] <phillw> -e
[16:59] <holstein> :)
[17:03] <phillw> joern is also working with rafaellaguna to get the icons etc for qtupdater those two will know where Qt5 is up to, as rafaellaguna has the themes / icons / wallpaper etc to create :D
[17:05] <phillw> once cute-updater is stable, they will then move to LSC having both will add usability for newcomers, add this to the planned ppa GUI manager and there will be light weight apps to cover those 'scary' tasks :)
[18:19] <testdr> only for information (2whomitconcerns) changing the default for screenshot (scrot) in lxde default apps did not work for me. I had to change the keybinding-calls for print and alt+print too to get a working screenshot-script for saving the shots to a different place (subdiretory instead of home-directory).