[00:00] <daftykins> no you don't
[00:00] <alazyworkaholic> the commands "ubuntu-drivers devices" and "ubuntu-drivers list" return nothing although I have a recent Nvidia graphics card. What could the problem be? (14.04)
[00:00] <frank_o> daftykins: wanna bet
[00:00] <Dragin> I see rww
[00:01] <Dragin> Well, if it helps, the creator of rscw just made an update to it a few days ago, so possibly 2?
[00:01] <frank_o> daftykins: you're welcome to join us in #css
[00:01] <greyhet> alazyworkaholic: did you try to install nvidia driver ?
[00:02] <daftykins> if only the ops were more attentive.
[00:02] <frank_o> they're here.
[00:02] <rww> Dragin: if so, installing libgtk2.0-dev would work
[00:02] <Dragin> gonna ask in ubuntu-hams and see if anyone there knows which version I'd need
[00:02] <Dragin> thanks rww. I will check that out
[00:02] <lickalott> Gents, finally decided to upgrade to 14.04 on my laptop.  I'm getting a compiz error and it's SLLOOOOOWWWWW.  Based on the error report it seems that it's crashing on startup.  Anything I can do?
[00:02] <alazyworkaholic> greyhet: nvidia driver? if you mean, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current", yes. That didn't work out at all, so I rolled back and wanted to try to install using the friendly graphical installer.
[00:03] <Dragin> not having any problems with 14.04 here
[00:04] <actv> hi!
[00:04] <greyhet> alazyworkaholic: so, you climbed over that issues
[00:05] <alazyworkaholic> greyhet: if I open the "additional drivers" applet, i'm told there are no additional drivers available, and that's wrong.
[00:05] <OerHeks> alazyworkaholic, for what videocard?
[00:06] <Dragin> rww... where do I get libgtk2.0-dev? I tried sudo apt-get libgtk2.0-dev and it said E: Invalid operation libgtk2.0-dev
[00:06] <daftykins> Dragin: sudo apt-get install <package>
[00:06] <Dragin> doh! Sorry
[00:06] <daftykins> start taking notes, so you can learn easier
[00:07] <OerHeks> alazyworkaholic, open terminal:  lspci | grep -i VGA  # and post the output here
[00:08] <greyhet> alazyworkaholic: please check it, http://askubuntu.com/a/451248
[00:08] <greyhet> but be careful when remove packets about nvidia
[00:08] <Beldar> lickalott, Upgraded from what release and how?
[00:08] <alazyworkaholic> greyhet: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)
[00:09] <greyhet> alazyworkaholic: if you download driver from nvidia.com, i think that it doesn't matter what it is
[00:09] <greyhet> and check this link, http://askubuntu.com/a/451248
[00:09] <daftykins> you shouldn't be downloading.
[00:10] <greyhet> daftykins: i downloaded driver, and install manually. there is no complex issues i guess
[00:10] <OerHeks> support for that 750TI is comming in kernel 3.15
[00:10] <OerHeks> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY0MzQ
[00:10] <daftykins> greyhet: right, but when a new kernel comes out or a new version does, you have to go to some hassle. we do not advise things that aren't packaged around here if we can help it
[00:11] <daftykins> greyhet: also 'works for me' is not a defense :)
[00:11] <alazyworkaholic> OerKeks: Are you referring to the nouveau open source driver for the 750-ti? I want to use the proprietary one.
[00:12] <alazyworkaholic> OerHeks: should it not be detected by using the additional drivers tab?
[00:12] <greyhet> daftykins: how can i help without experiments ?
[00:13] <greyhet> experience *
[00:13] <OerHeks> alazyworkaholic, nvidia driver 334.21 added support for the new GeForce GTX 750 Ti , this is all info i have
[00:13] <greyhet> anyway
[00:13] <greyhet> never mind
[00:15] <Beldar> lickalott, Hard to tell your actual issue however a reset often helps. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/  Make sure if you have graphic drivers you have installed previously do it again starting with looking in the additional drivers tab in software & updates.
[00:15] <Dragin> I just installed the libgtk2.0-dev then typed make (to make the rscw program) and this is what I get. http://pastebin.com/nVp0hCLD Anyone know where I should look for those files/folders that it can't find?
[00:18] <rww> Dragin: gtk-config isn't in the Ubuntu repositories. Again, I suspect it's a GTK1 thing :\
[00:18] <Dragin> don't know where I can find gtk1 then?
[00:24] <alfonsojon> GTK1?
[00:24] <alfonsojon> Oh my
[00:25] <lickalott> Gracias Beldar .  I'll look into that.
[00:26] <daftykins> greyhet: don't :)
[00:28] <lickalott> ERROR 2014-08-17 17:27:45 unity.debug.interface DebugDBusInterface.cpp:216 Unable to load entry point in libxpathselect: libxpathselect.so.1.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:28] <lickalott> ERROR 2014-08-17 17:27:46 unity.glib.dbus.server GLibDBusServer.cpp:524 DBus name lost 'org.gnome.Shell'
[00:28] <lickalott> ERROR 2014-08-17 17:27:46 unity.glib.dbus.server GLibDBusServer.cpp:524 DBus name lost 'com.canonical.Unity'
[00:29] <Beldar> lickalott, Use a pastebin and give a context.
[00:30] <lickalott> after I did the reset from the site you posted.
[00:31] <Beldar> lickalott, Did you restart the desktop and do a reboot just to see if your working better?
[00:31] <lickalott> i restarted the desktop.  Haven't accomplished a full restart yet.  I will in a bit and report findings.
[00:32] <Beldar> lickalott, So what release did you upgrade from and how. Note I use your nick as a preface to talk to you.
[00:32] <Metronome> Hello World!
[00:33] <lickalott> sorry Beldar.  I'm multi-tasking.  Usually I add the nick also.   I am upgrading from 12.04 and I did it through the package manager
[00:33] <Metronome> Would anyone like to skim my freshly-typed MMO installation guide and let me know if I misused any Ubuntu terms (or if there is a more user friendly way to explain anything)?  =D
[00:33] <Metronome> http://pastebin.com/98DD1mBN
[00:34] <Beldar> lickalott, Did you have any 3rd party repos like PPA's in 12.04?
[00:34] <Metronome> Particularly, the fourth paragraphs relate to Ubuntu.
[00:34] <lickalott> Beldar, yes
[00:34] <Metronome> *paragraph relates
[00:34] <lucid_interval> OerHeks: I have an nVidia GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2) and I am using nvidia-331. No issues whatsoever (although I am not a gamer). I am using 3840x2160 and a 2560x1600 monitors in Twinview with no problems
[00:34] <Metronome> I tried to make it as accessible to non-technical readers as possible
[00:34] <Beldar> lickalott, And by the way multitasking has been statistically proven to be no more effective than single task work.
[00:34] <Metronome> I'm never sure how much explanation is too much.
[00:35] <lickalott> LOL @ Beldar.
[00:35] <lucid_interval> OerHeks: The nVidia release notes does mention adding support for 750Ti, but the details do not reference 750Ti anywhere
[00:36] <Beldar> not a joke, it was tested and is empirical, lickalott
[00:37] <lickalott> Beldar, not multitaksing in the sense of simultaneous projects on the computer at once.  multitasking as in, 3 kids running around tripping over themselves and yelling and I have to mediate any arguments.
[00:38] <Beldar> lickalott, Ah, never had the pleasure/pain/hair pulling privilage. ;)
[00:38] <lickalott> Beldar, god bless you sir.  Make sure you and your significant other are READY!!
[00:39] <jorge2> how do I run a program from the terminal and be able to close the terminal without the program exiting
[00:39] <Beldar> lickalott, Not gonna happen I guarantee, not my sort of thing, but thanks for the image supporting that. ;)
[00:39] <daftykins> jorge2: run it with & at the end
[00:39] <lickalott> LMAO
[00:39] <daftykins> "program &"
[00:40] <jorge2> I tried that and when I close the terminal it exits the program
[00:40] <daftykins> jorge2: ah, try using screen.
[00:40] <jorge2> how do you use screen?
[00:40] <cynicallemon> jorge2: or tmux
[00:41] <daftykins> jorge2: plenty of guides online
[00:42] <robfrawley> join #nginx
[00:42] <robfrawley> my bad ^
[00:42] <jorge2> what is nginx?
[00:42] <robfrawley> a web server
[00:42] <robfrawley> i mean to type that with a leading slash, not post it here
[00:44] <daftykins> robfrawley: pro tip, commands in your status window. no chance of making mistakes that others see
[00:44] <jorge2> yo foo' keep it real dawg
[00:44] <lickalott> Beldar, 110% better.  Thank you sir!
[00:45] <robfrawley> daftykins: Thanks for that - good call
[00:45] <yanwei> ??
[00:46] <Beldar> lickalott, Cool, enjoy.
[00:51] <GDC> ??
[00:54] <rww> GDC: Hi, welcome to #ubuntu, the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux. How can we help?
[00:58] <cynicallemon> GDC - Global Domain Controller maybe?
[00:59] <ObrienDave> big brother ;P
[01:11] <pomke> Hey, I'm tyring to upgrade an old 12.10 machine, but update-manager exitsbecause quantal is no longer found in any repositories
[01:11] <pomke> using a local mirror or using the main servers
[01:11] <Bashing-om> !eol | pom
[01:12] <pomke> ty!
[01:22] <Overv> why does ubuntu 14.04 LTS have packages from debian unstable like clang-3.5?
[01:22] <Beldar> Overv, All packages go through ubuntu dev and are put in it's repos.
[01:23] <alfonsojon> Overv: Ubuntu bases itself upon Debian's upstream unstable repos
[01:23] <Beldar> Overv, And ubuntu is based on debian stable basically, tweaked for your pleasure.
[01:23] <rww> no it isn't
[01:23] <Beldar> unstable*
[01:23] <rww> there we go :)
[01:23] <Beldar> typo
[01:24] <Overv> ah, didn't know that
[01:24] <rww> iirc LTSes are based on testing instead, but i don't know if that's an always thing or not
[01:25] <rww> (and that's only the autosync; manual syncs happen from e.g. experimental if need be)
[01:29] <alipoor90> What is Best Linux font for daily use?
[01:30] <Beldar> alipoor90, No best, that is a subjective answer.
[01:31] <alipoor90> I looking for an equivalent to Times New Roman on windows, I tried to install Times New Roman in Linux but it rendering very bad ...
[01:32] <Beldar> alipoor90, Have you installed the restricted extras?
[01:33] <Beldar> there are ms font included in them
[01:34] <alipoor90> I installed it by coping fonts from my Windows font folder !? is it wrong?
[01:36] <Beldar> alipoor90, The ubuntu repos are full of fonts, there are ms fonts in the restricted extras, not sure of you methodology. Nor if you want a OS wide change or even how, some apps can be changed independently
[01:37] <Beldar> your*
[01:37] <alipoor90> no , i just want to use it in my documents
[01:38] <Beldar> alipoor90, Libreoffice?
[01:39] <alipoor90> yes
[01:39] <Beldar> alipoor90, So again have you installed the restricted extras?
[01:40] <decima> good morning, is anyone here that can help with a ssh rsa key connection issue ?
[01:40] <alipoor90>  I installed Times New Roman by coping it into /usr/share/fonts but it rendering very bad, for example in "then", 'e' and 'n' sicks together
[01:40] <daftykins> !ask | decima
[01:40] <alipoor90> do installing fonts from packages make difference?
[01:41] <Beldar> alipoor90, New times roman is in the ms fonts in the restricted extras and looks ice here, you should only be using fonts from the ubnuntu repos basically.
[01:41] <somsip> alipoor90: do it the proper way (from official packages) and then raise an issue if they don't work right
[01:41] <Beldar> nice*
[01:41] <alipoor90> OK!
[01:42] <decima> i have two computers that try connect via rsa key to 1 server (2 different rsa keys) connection from the first computer works fine but on the 2nd one i get a permission denied (public key) error
[01:42] <stevendumani> hello, what's the Yahoo Messenger Alternative for linux? empathy and pidgin didn't work... is there a better solution?
[01:43] <rww> stevendumani: pidgin *should* work. are you getting an error on connection or something?
[01:43] <rypervenche> decima: You are missing the public key of the other computer in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file probably.
[01:43] <decima> nah already added it and confirmed that its there
[01:43] <stevendumani> rww I'll get back to you thanx for answering.
[01:43] <decima> the log on the server shows connection closed by ip [preauth]
[01:44] <rypervenche> decima: How did you add the public key? Manually or with ssh-copy-id?
[01:44] <decima> manually via cat rsakeyname >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:45] <rypervenche> decima: I would verify that the ssh server is running on both systems. You may need to install openssh-server. Otherwise, try adding a -v to your ssh command.
[01:45] <systemgh0st> stevendumani: what erors are you getting when installing pidgin?
[01:45] <rypervenche> decima: Also verify that the permissions are 600 on the authorized_keys file and 700 on the ~/.ssh directory.
[01:45] <decima> i tried with -v but could not find anything wrong, the strange is that i have another computer , that i set up a little bit before the other with a different rsa key and that one works fine
[01:46] <decima> rypervenche i also doublechecked the chmod settings
[01:47] <decima> i even created another key but same result there
[01:47] <rypervenche> decima: What is the auth log on the other server showing?
[01:47] <decima> connection closed by ipoftheclientrying to connect [preauth]
[01:48] <stevendumani> systemgh0st , rww it's working now thank you, but is there a way to show offline contacts?
[01:49] <quem> haven't been able to get my samsung ml-1630w printer to work in ubuntu 14.14. i've had no issues with it in all previous versions of ubuntu.
[01:49] <rypervenche> decima: Yeah, something isn't right. Either you're connecting to the wrong user, you copied the public key incorrectly, or something else. Can you cat out ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server that you can't connect to?
[01:49] <quem> it uses the splix driver. anyone with similar problems?
[01:49] <rypervenche> decima: Also, are you trying to connect directly to the root user?
[01:49] <rww> stevendumani: in the buddy list window: buddies menu > show > offline contacts
[01:50] <rww> offline buddies *
[01:50] <decima> nah iam using localuseratserver@servername
[01:50] <decima> i can cannot fine via password auth if I enable it
[01:50] <stevendumani> rww thanks man and sorry for asking dumb questions :P
[01:50] <rww> stevendumani: no problem :)
[01:51] <stevendumani> bye for now ubuntu
[01:51] <decima> i copied the key the same way on both client computers
[01:51] <rypervenche> decima: I know you did, but can you confirm that the file has been populated with your public key?
[01:52] <decima> the only thing I did differently was that after i copied the key from the first client over I changed settings in the in the ssh config and then adjusted the chmod settings on .ssh directory and authorized key file
[01:52] <decima> lemme double check the authorized key file
[01:53] <decima> yeah the key is in the authorized key file
[01:54] <rypervenche> decima: On the server you're trying to connect to, type "namei -om ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" as the user you're trying to connect to and pastebin its output. Also, can you give us the exact error you're getting from the command line when it doesn't work?
[01:55] <reborn> i noticed ubuntu store make cpu high, isn't often?
[01:58] <decima> pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jex4k356
[01:59] <decima> the last line i posted in the pastebin the offering public key does not appear on the client where the connection does not work
[01:59] <decima> everything else in the -v log looks the same
[02:02] <decima> rypervenche, this it was it shows on the client where it does not work for the same lines:
[02:02] <decima> debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
[02:02] <decima> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
[02:02] <decima> debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
[02:02] <decima> debug1: Trying private key:
[02:03] <decima> it looks like its not trying to transfer the publickey but i have no idea why
[02:09] <gustav___> This is like a random plea. If you can, prolong support for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. (12.04.5.)
[02:10] <Cheekio> Any mature 3d cad software for ubuntu?
[02:10] <UIXO> Hello, I’m trying to force my Asus EEE 1005HA into 1280x768 resolution for all users. I already have the appropriate xrandr command to do it for myself but I can’t figure out where to put the command to make this proper resolution available for everyone. I’ve already tried /etc/gdm/Init/Default and in .xprofile to no avail… anybody know off chance?
[02:11] <gustav___> Cheekio: Be more specific.
[02:11] <Cheekio> I'm looking for a autodesk 123D Design - like program
[02:11] <Cheekio> Autodesk + wine doesn't seem to work
[02:12] <Cheekio> Fancy 3d CAD software + gui
[02:12] <gustav___> Cheekio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233857/is-it-possible-to-install-autocad-or-an-alternative-on-ubuntu
[02:12] <Cheekio> gustav___, thanks!
[02:13] <X120e> does anyone know why i can't send files using the latest pidgin with yahoo with the latest ubuntu 14.04?
[02:13] <Nordom> Howdy all, I am trying to setup a VM, but I want the VM to run off my second drive. Last time I set it up I said I wanted to create all the vm stuff on sdb (my second drive) but it still created it on my main. Anyone got a guide or can offer some help?
[02:15] <cynicallemon> Nordom: what are you using, virtualbox, vmware?
[02:15] <Nordom> cynicallemon: I am using Xen
[02:21] <cynicallemon> Nordom: i assume you have looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[02:22] <Basketball> i installed spotify where is the icon saved
[02:23] <Nordom> cynicallemon: yeah thats where I did it the first time from
[02:25] <crazyhorse18> hey i want to copy an entire hdd from one drive to another
[02:26] <crazyhorse18> whats the safest way to do that so i don't miss /lose any files?
[02:27] <cynicallemon> crazyhorse18: clonezilla maybe
[02:28] <crazyhorse18> ok... cheers
[02:28] <luffy2014> can anyone recommend me a free as in freedom newbie friendly alternative to the plop boot manager? I want to be able to boot from any usb pen drive but my bios does not support booting from usb
[02:28] <crazyhorse18> also.. is there anyway of remotely installing ubuntu along with a ton of installation scripts?
[02:29] <cynicallemon> crazyhorse18: define remotely, like across the internet or say hosts on a local network
[02:30] <crazyhorse18> local netowrk
[02:30] <crazyhorse18> so basically i want to maintain scripts that configure everything and then update the scripts as needed.  when i get a new machine i'd like to run the scrpts to have it completly setup
[02:30] <crazyhorse18> right now i've got them in the form of txt files (basically lists of commands)
[02:31] <crazyhorse18> i have to setup 11 computers and will probably have to do more in the future
[02:34] <cynicallemon> crazyhorse18: perhaps this may give you some ideas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:35] <ryan_46> crazyhorse18: I may be wrong about this, but I think clonezilla is just for bare metal back up of operating systems. You can't read individual files from it. Unless it was OS backup that you meant.
[02:35] <crazyhorse18> ryan_46, i basically just need to move all the files.. usually i'd just use rsync
[02:36] <ryan_46> OK
[02:36] <crazyhorse18> but because it has all the OS directories.. i don't know what it's going to do with /media etc
[02:38] <abhi_> can any one tell me...my screen brightness is not working...
[02:40] <decima> hello , how do i permanently add my ssh rsa key on my client so do not have to manually choose which key to use for a connection ? ssh-add only works until the next restart
[02:42] <crazyhorse18> hmm
[02:43] <crazyhorse18> is there anyway i can un encrypt all the files in /home/.encryptfs
[02:43] <abhi_> can any one tell me...my screen brightness is not working...
[02:46] <daftykins> abhi_: your screen brightness is not working
[02:47] <abhi_> yes..means it's not decreasing...it remain same...
[02:47] <daftykins> abhi_: what language do you speak?
[02:49] <Abhijit> abhi_, have you tried xbacklight?
[02:49] <abhi_> hindi ...and enlish
[02:49] <cfhowlett> !in | abhi_
[02:50] <Abhijit> cfhowlett, that channel is english only.
[02:50] <abhi_> no..
[02:50] <Abhijit> abhi_, have you tried xbacklight?
[02:50] <abhi_> how i use it
[02:50] <Abhijit> abhi_, install it with sudo apt-get install xbacklight then do xbacklgiht -set N where N ranges from 0 to 100. 0 is dark. 100 is very bright
[02:51] <daftykins> most brightness fixes involve modifying a kernel line, then it'll be working with built-in software
[02:51] <abhi_> no...i dont use xbacklight
[02:51] <abhi_> will this help
[02:52] <Abhijit> try and check.
[02:52] <abhi_> i will tell u after installing and use it...
[02:55] <X120e> does anyone know why i can't send files using the latest pidgin with yahoo with the latest ubuntu 14.04?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !details | X120e
[02:59] <Abhijit> !pm | abhi_
[02:59] <linuxguy101> anyone have a link on how to get the pull down menues in fire fox to display all the time instead of hitting the alt key
[02:59] <lastpulse> hello
[02:59] <linuxguy101> its really annoying
[02:59] <lastpulse> what is really annoying?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> linuxguy101, it's in your firefox preferences - experiment and you'll find it.
[03:01] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, is this a fire fox option or ubuntu option
[03:01] <cfhowlett> linuxguy101, firefox
[03:01] <linuxguy101> god they suck
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !browsers | linuxguy101
[03:02] <X120e> well I thougt my question was very clear... I will try again everytime I try to send a file with pidigin it says it is sending the file but it never sends just hangs and the other person never gets any notice that I'm trying to send a file to them
[03:02] <Abhijit_> abhi_, ask here
[03:03] <abhi_> i install it...but how i work on it...it doesnt show in applications
[03:03] <daftykins> X120e: IM file sending typically requires router port forwarding and so on, unless your router has UPnP enabled and yahoo chat allows DCC auto
[03:03] <cfhowlett> X120e, could be blocked by router settings, blocked by firewall, any number of options.  try a different app
[03:03] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, i dont see an option anywhere
[03:03] <daftykins> X120e: however, these are queries for Pidgin and Yahoo, not the OS
[03:06] <X120e> Okay thank-you I will try  something eles, Because I'm not behind any router/firewall and I can recive files fine just can't send any
[03:06] <abhi_> my screen brightness doessnt working in ubuntu...i think it about my nvidia grphics vcard can any one tell how to fix this..
[03:11] <Abhijit_> abhi_, which ubuntu version? xbacklight is not gui app. you have to run terminal first. and then inside it type xbacklight -set 50
[03:15] <abhi_> i do as u say...but my screen brightness doesnt change
[03:15] <abhi_> abhijit
[03:15] <Abhijit> abhi_, which ubuntu version you are using?
[03:16] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, i found it.. in the most hidden place in a gui ever coded on earth
[03:17] <linuxguy101> wtf is firefox devs thinking setting that as a default
[03:17] <cfhowlett> linuxguy101, you had my curiosity.  Now you have my attention.  Screenshot??
[03:17] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, lol let me spend another 10 min finding it again
[03:18] <abhi_> i have use..12.4,13.10...and now i m using 14.4...
[03:18] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, turning off the pull down menues and moving them to an alt key firs to get the menues down is pure crap
[03:18] <linuxguy101> as a default setting
[03:18] <abhi_> brightness doent chang in any version
[03:19] <linuxguy101> if firefox keeps this insanity up everyone needs to fork firefox and get rid of the jelly heads who are coding the gui
[03:19] <daftykins> abhi_: laptop? what make and model
[03:19] <cfhowlett> linuxguy101, something to take up with mozilla.
[03:19] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, oh they heard my words
[03:19] <daftykins> linuxguy101: drop the language and take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, i will go even further and post my bitches to some blog sites..
[03:20] <linuxguy101> daftykins, ok thanks i will tone it down
[03:20] <linuxguy101> i just hope 31.0 does not hit everyone
[03:21] <abhi_> vaio vpceh25en
[03:21] <Abhijit> !who | abhi_
[03:24] <daftykins> abhi_: follow - http://askubuntu.com/questions/266601/sony-vaio-brightness-settings-not-changing/266618#266618
[03:24] <daftykins> Abhijit: it's moving pretty slowly right now so don't waste users time or bot triggers
[03:24] <abhi_> Abhijit,my laptop is sonyvaio vpceh25en...
[03:25] <Abhijit> daftykins, how many million dollars i wasted by doing that one !who ?
[03:25] <Abhijit> sorry for all those dollars.
[03:26] <carlin_> facebook.com
[03:26] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, http://imgur.com/2yRemhA
[03:26] <Abhijit> daftykins, please make sure to be present in the channel next time when its crowded and abhi_ comes again and talks to 2 users at a time without mentioning nick. start your tuition at that time.
[03:26] <cfhowlett> linuxguy101, yeah, that's not terribly obvious.
[03:27] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, not intuitive at all
[03:27] <cadu_> oi
[03:28] <daftykins> Abhijit: grow up
[03:28] <cfhowlett> EVERYONE: let's stay on topic.
[03:28] <abhi_> abhijit! i just  start xchat...
[03:28] <chatopex> me too
[03:28] <cfhowlett> cadu_, ask your ubuntu question
[03:29] <tomhardy_> hey i just made an ubuntu boot usb.. but i can't boot of off it
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | tomhardy_, 1. verify the ubuntu ISO   2. verify the USB
[03:30] <tomhardy_> yeah should i configure something in the bios or something to make it boot of the usb?
[03:30] <daftykins> tomhardy_: what kind of system?
[03:30] <luffy2014> I want to be able to boot from any usb pen drive but my bios does not support booting from usb. It seems that it can be done with grub. Found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB but it applies to the old ubuntu 10.04 version not to the grub version that comes with Debian 7. Since Debian 7 Ubuntu 12.04 are very similar, are there any updated tutorials for Ubuntu 12.04?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> tomhardy_, "can't boot off it" means ???
[03:30] <chatopex> Why my Ubuntu only created 3 partitions? EFI System, Linux Filesystem, Linux Swap
[03:31] <cfhowlett> !install | luffy2014,
[03:31] <tomhardy_> it's a desktop system, intel cpu
[03:31] <tomhardy_> v0.261 american megatrends bios
[03:31] <daftykins> tomhardy_: branded or custom?
[03:31] <tomhardy_> csutom
[03:31] <luffy2014> ubottu, i do not want to install ubuntu
[03:31] <daftykins> tomhardy_: motherboard brand?
[03:31] <tomhardy_> let me open to have a look
[03:31] <tomhardy_> asus
[03:32] <tomhardy_> Asus P5QL
[03:32] <daftykins> tomhardy_: ok, F8 will give you a one-time boot menu
[03:32] <tomhardy_> ok :)
[03:33] <tomhardy_> awesome :D   it's like say the secret code
[03:33] <daftykins> ;)
[03:33] <GDC> why are you so diao
[03:34] <Abhijit> abhi_, you have nvidia card right? have you properly installed the nvidia drivers for it?
[03:34] <daftykins> sometimes these BIOSs with silly fullscreen logos obscure the keypress combos to get extra options
[03:34] <linuxguy101> cfhowlett, btw, thanks for your help..
[03:34] <cfhowlett> linuxguy101, happy2help
[03:34] <tomhardy_> yeah i looked everywhere to try and find a usb boot option :)
[03:34] <linuxguy101> grrrrr firefox..
[03:34] <linuxguy101> lol
[03:34] <tomhardy_> GDC: diaosi?
[03:35] <pie__> how can I change the key bindings for eye of gnome? i want to be able to go to the next image even if im zoomed in
[03:35] <tomhardy_> can i download updates once onto a single machine
[03:35] <tomhardy_> then distribute it to the tother machines?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> tomhardy_, you can set up a local mirror
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !mirror
[03:36] <cfhowlett> tomhardy_, not that factoid.  wait 1
[03:37] <abhi_> Abhijit_:  i have nvidia ard...and i alrady have installed nvidia driver
[03:37] <Guest41184> Hello world !! :)
[03:37] <daftykins> tomhardy_: keep the .deb's from /var/cache/apt/archives/ then transfer them to all the other systems
[03:37] <tomhardy_> cfhowlett: i've got a very specific list of stuff to install.. so i meant like download a bunch of stuff like libreoffice etc
[03:37] <tomhardy_> daftkins: ok.. so install on one system.. then back them all up.. install the new system copy the archives in?
[03:37] <daftykins> tomhardy_: when upgrading, they'll happily install without download, however they would have to have connectivity to run "apt-get update" to be aware that those packages are the new versions to install
[03:37] <Abhijit> abhi_, i junst found these two. try these http://askubuntu.com/questions/154557/unable-to-change-brightness-settings-in-sony-vaio-e-series-laptop and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1911236
[03:38] <daftykins> tomhardy_: yep
[03:38] <tomhardy_> is it possible to update machines without an external internet connection
[03:39] <cfhowlett> tomhardy_, it is.  techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html   and jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/06/howto-installing-ubuntu-packages.html
[03:39] <daftykins> tomhardy_: you could just "dpkg -i *.deb" in a folder of them yeah
[03:39] <tomhardy_> awesome :D
[03:43] <tomhardy> crappy internet
[03:50] <dinamus>  olá galera, gostaria de saber se alguem sabe de algum programa que faz algo semelhante ao bywifi faz no windows, fazendo um cache de dos videos dos sites de streaming?? e com ele vc pode abrir a pasta com o cache e copiar se quiser  ou mesmo só carregar o msm videos
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !es | dinamus,
[03:51] <chatopex> is Portuguese  not Spanish
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !pt chatopex
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !pt | chatopex
[03:52] <daftykins> not the guy that wanted to know.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> thanks chatopex - sadly, I can't tell the difference
[03:53] <chatopex> thank you for your help ubuttu
[03:55] <chatopex> sometime is hard!!!
[03:55] <eanyx> hi
[03:56] <eanyx> does anyone has already tested ubuntu mir?
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !mir | ea
[03:57] <cfhowlett> eanyx, mir *might* be in 14.10.  discuss in #ubuntu+1 not here.
[03:57] <noidea> Is there an easy way to print blkid to fstab?
[03:58] <alazyworkaholic> How can i tell whether ubuntu is using the nouveau driver, or some sort of software rendering on the CPU?
[03:58] <chatopex> Mir is a Desktop distribution... or not?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> chatopex, not.
[03:59] <chatopex> Ok!
[03:59] <eanyx> cfhowlett: thank you
[04:00] <cfhowlett> eanyx, happy2help
[04:00] <edition> will installing a realtime kernel, fix the startup of JACK?
[04:02] <chatopex> Why Steam improve so much in Unity and not in Xfce. I recently unistall Ubuntu studio and install  Ubuntu... I notice a big difference? any idea.
[04:03] <edition> chatopex, hardware performance
[04:03] <edition> ie: compiz
[04:03] <chatopex> nice
[04:04] <edition> ubuntu unity uses graphics acceleration
[04:04] <cfhowlett> chatopex, steam works just fine on my ubuntustudio.  In fact, even better now that I've installed the intel graphics drivers.
[04:05] <edition> why doesn't JACK work with mainstream ubuntu?
[04:05] <cfhowlett> edition, mainstream ubuntu kernel ...
[04:05] <edition> yes
[04:05] <edition> thats what I meant :)
[04:06] <cfhowlett> edition, jack needs a realtime/low latency kernel.  the default ubuntu kernel is not.
[04:06] <edition> is it installable ?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> edition, of course.
[04:06] <TJ-> noidea: Yes. "DEV=/dev/sda1; MOUNTPOINT="/mnt/example"; echo "$(sudo blkid -o export -s UUID $DEV) $MOUNTPOINT $(sudo blkid -o value -s TYPE $DEV) defaults 0 2" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab "
[04:06] <tomhardy> when installing a new verison of ubuntu.. how do i get it to wipe everything?  all the partitions etc
[04:07] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, format those partitions
  thanxx...it worked
[04:07] <tomhardy> oh ok.. do i still need to create a swap and an ext4 partition?
[04:07] <chatopex> on ubuntu studio, Counter Strike doesn't work at full setting fluid . But now with Ubuntu 14.04 I can play Counter Strike with Anosotropic 4x without lag
[04:07] <noidea> TJ-: Thank you, i will try this.
[04:08] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, at minimum: / (ext 4)         /swap and /home are options
[04:08] <edition> how to install realtime kernel?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> !lowlatency
[04:14] <DonkeyHotei> has ofono replaced modemmanager in trusty?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> edition, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-30-lowlatency
[04:15] <edition> thats all? :)
[04:15] <cfhowlett> edition, reboot.  select low latency
[04:17] <Gatis> IN Whisker Menu in Setting tab i don't see any settings.. Why?
[04:17] <cfhowlett> Gatis, don't cross post
[04:17] <Gatis> don't spy on me
[04:18] <edition> is there a hardware-accelerated version of the older gnome desktop?
[04:18] <cfhowlett> Gatis, no one is spying.  cross posting is very obvious and discouraged
[04:18] <Gatis> if you see my post answer please
[04:19] <Gatis> cfhowlett, you are ready to warn me about cross posting but can't give answer to my question..
[04:20] <Gatis> #xubuntu sleeping... I asked yesterday same question i didn't get answer
[04:23] <abhi_> Abhijit_:  thanks it worked...
[04:23] <Gatis> Does anyone know something about Whisker menu in XFCE? I can't see settings applications in Settings tab :?
[04:23] <Gatis> ;/
[04:24] <jellow> Gatis,  have you looked in menulibre  and tried adding it?
[04:27] <jellow> Gatis, you're looking for xfce4-settings-manager ?
[04:27] <Gatis> yellow im looking at menulibre
[04:27] <Gatis> i can't unhide Settings
[04:27] <Gatis> Hide from menus: OFF
[04:28] <Gatis> It's off but i don't see Settings in menu
[04:29] <jellow> Gatis, you clicked save launcher at the top of menulibre?
[04:29] <Gatis> jellow, i don't have such button :/
[04:30] <Gatis> ah i have
[04:30] <Gatis> but still
[04:30] <Gatis> The Hide menus button doesn't work
[04:31] <Gatis> jellow, hide menus button works for everything except for Settings.. Strange?
[04:31] <jellow> I think you may have to restart xfce ( login / logout )
[04:32] <Gatis> yellow, it was like from start i installed xubuntu
[04:33] <DonkeyHotei> has ofono replaced modemmanager in trusty?
[04:34] <DonkeyHotei> my 3g dongle used to work in trusty, now it doesn't
[04:34] <Gatis> I think Whisker Menu has a bug.
[04:35] <Gatis> How to delete Whisker Menu, please?
[04:36] <jellow> Gatis,  do you have this file .local/share/desktop-directories/xfce-system.directory ?
[04:37] <Gatis> yellow, i do
[04:38] <jellow> Gatis, are the contents the same as this one http://pastebin.com/extP47ej ?
[04:38] <Beldar> Gatis, listed as xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin in the repos
[04:39] <Gatis> yellow, yes the same
[04:41] <Gatis> yellow, in menu Settings Tab i see 2 applications only: Gigolo and Task Manager
[04:44] <jellow> Gatis, thats normal I think all setting are in Whisker> (top panel next to padlock ) > all settings
[04:44] <Gatis> jellow, why i don't see all settings there?
[04:45] <jellow> Gatis, likely a bug
[04:46] <Gatis> Ah ok, Thanks :)
[04:46] <Gatis> Ill drop it. and use default menu
[04:51] <Gatis> How can i check what application i have on pc?
[04:54] <DJJeff> stopping network-manager prevents gksu from working?
[04:55] <DJJeff> strace output http://bpaste.net/raw/627411/
[04:55] <Beldar> DJJeff, gksudo is the default now.
[04:55] <DJJeff> gksu exited with status 1
[04:56] <Beldar> Gatis,  A particular app ?
[04:56] <DJJeff> gksudo also exits with status 1
[04:56] <Gatis> Beldar, yeah i want to delete whisker menu
[04:56] <DJJeff> I had to stop network-manager because it stops airmon-ng from working
[04:57] <DJJeff> it also allowed me to bridge lxcbr0 properly
[04:57] <DJJeff> network-manager causes alot of problems
[04:57] <Beldar> Gatisi gave you the name of it, sudo apt-get remove xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin it has dependencies be sure you know what you're doing
[04:58] <Beldar> DJJeff, you are the first to say this, giving a break down here of the issue may be a better methodology.
[04:59] <TJ-> DJJeff: Network Manager doesn't cause problems *if* you configure things correctly, If you want other programs to control an interface it helps to tell NM *not* to manage that interface
[04:59] <DonkeyHotei> has ofono replaced modemmanager in trusty?
[04:59] <DonkeyHotei> my 3g dongle used to work in trusty, now it doesn't
[05:01] <Beldar> DonkeyHotei, Sounds like a usb name the hardware as shown in lsusb if a usb
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0af0:7901 Option
[05:03] <DonkeyHotei> Beldar: ^
[05:03] <Beldar> DonkeyHotei, Hmm, does not look like any hardware name from here, could it be a kernel issue, have uyou tried earlier kernels from the grub menu?
[05:04] <DonkeyHotei> it's not a kernel issue
[05:04] <Beldar> DonkeyHotei, I was just trying to get details the channel might need to hep, no idea from here really.
[05:04] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: Has the kernel module loaded ("lsmod | grep hso") ?
[05:04] <DonkeyHotei> the issue is trusty suddenly replaced modemmanager with ofono, which doesn't support it
[05:05] <TJ-> Beldar: The way to diagnose these issues is to use the Vendor:Product ID to search the kernel's module alias lists, using in this case: "grep -in '0af0.*7901' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/*"  - notice the case-insensitive search
[05:06] <DonkeyHotei> if i manually replace ofono with modemmanager, mmcli shows the hardware but network-manager has no knowledge of modemmanager at all
[05:06] <Beldar> TJ-, Thanks, way beyond me. ;)
[05:06] <TJ-> Beldar: The last part of the search result is the name of the kernel module that manages that device ID
[05:07] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: how do i get network-manager to see modemmanager again?
[05:08] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: Ubuntu has *not* replaced modemmanager with ofono, unless you're using Ubuntu Touch maybe?
[05:08] <Beldar> TJ-, I have never really messed with kernels so I just had to guess it might be related, probably better I said nothing. I saw you and thought lsusb would you some info really.
[05:08] <DonkeyHotei> idk, ofono was installed and modemmanager wasn't
[05:08] <TJ-> Beldar: Well, it's good to share how to get concrete details on these things.
[05:09] <Beldar> TJ-, I appreciate that for sure.
[05:09] <DonkeyHotei> and installing modemmanager makes network-manager not know about mobile broadband at all
[05:09] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> hi
[05:10] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> I kinda need help D:
[05:10] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: If you're using regular desktop Ubuntu flavours, then to get ofono installed you'd have had to install some other package that depends on it, like telepathy-ofono, lxc-android-config, or others
[05:10] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> I have a PC that I can't boot
[05:10] <Beldar> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES, The the channel the details if you can.
[05:10] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: what *does* it do?
[05:10] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> The PC is actually OS-less at the moment
[05:11] <DonkeyHotei> not sure, but how do i get network-manager to see modemmanager again?
[05:11] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> It just goes to grub rescue
[05:11] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: restart network-manager service
[05:11] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: i've rebooted multiple times
[05:11] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> and everything says "unknown filesystem" when I ls them
[05:11] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: you still haven't shown me the result of the command I asked you to run
[05:12] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> I would install an OS
[05:12] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> But I can't access the CMOS settings nor the boot menu for some reasom
[05:12] <Beldar> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES, Try the per-session boot would be a key prompt at powering on the bios splash often tells you what it us, and or set the bios to boot the media
[05:12] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> What can I doo?
[05:12] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> It was working half an hour agpo
[05:12] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> ago*
[05:12] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: if the PC is OS-less, then what is the Ubuntu specific issue? Do you want to install Ubuntu?
[05:12] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: i did not see a command. the hso module is in use
[05:12] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> Yes, TJ-
[05:13] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: OK, so it should be available.
[05:13] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> I had Ubuntu before, and tried to reinstall it
[05:13] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> Didn't work
[05:13] <DJJeff> god fucking damnit
[05:13] <DonkeyHotei> network-manager knows nothing about modemmanager, so it isn't
[05:13] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: Is the modemmanager service running ?
[05:13] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[05:13] <TJ-> !language | DJJeff
[05:13] <DonkeyHotei> mmcli shows the hardware
[05:14] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: modemmanager is an independent service, so is it running?
[05:14] <DJJeff> wireshark wont start because I have no display 0:0
[05:14] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: If NM can't see the MM, then in all likelyhood the previous ofono config has somehow caused MM to not start correctly
[05:14] <DJJeff> all because I killed network-manager
[05:15] <TJ-> DJJeff: Use tcpdump
[05:15] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> Is there anything I can try? Maybe something that makes me able to access the CMOS settings again?
[05:15] <DJJeff> grrrrrrrrrrr
[05:15] <DJJeff> its all because of damn lxcbr0 crap
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: exactly. how do i fix that?
[05:15] <DJJeff> it destroyed my ubuntu
[05:15] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: To get to the PC's BIOS settings there will be a key to press at power-on, usually shown on screen
[05:16] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: I am aware, it's F2 in my case
[05:16] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: It was working half an hour ago
[05:16] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: But it isn't now for some reason
[05:16] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: Well, that is how you access the saved "CMOS settings"
[05:16] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: Isn't that what I want, though?
[05:16] <DJJeff> (wireshark:22344): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[05:16] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: Or it's a different thing?
[05:17] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: I have no idea what you want! You said "CMOS settings" but seem not to know what they are
[05:17] <DJJeff> GRRRRRRRRRR I need wireshark open right now
[05:17] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: Yeah, it's the BIOS settings, where I can change from UEFI to legacy and that kind of thing
[05:17] <DJJeff> its an emergency
[05:18] <DJJeff> a host on my lan has a virus and I need wireshark
[05:18] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: if the PC is booting from the wrong device (i.e. not the Live ISO installer device), then changing the boot-order or accessing te manual boot menu at power-on is probably what you need
[05:18] <TJ-> DJJeff: Use tcpdump
[05:18] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: But I can't even access the boot menu or the BIOS settings to do that!
[05:18] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: It's just not working, for some reason.
[05:18] <DJJeff> I do not have time for this
[05:18] <DJJeff> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[05:19] <DJJeff> bull****
[05:19] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: Well, there's nothing we can do to help that. Bad keyboard maybe?
[05:19] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: It's not, I can actually type things in the grub rescue
[05:19] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: But everything seems to gbe in a "unknown filesystem"
[05:19] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: It's all ext4 though
[05:20] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: That doesn't mean it's ready when the BIOS is expecting input though. Alternatively, has the keyboard got a Function-key lock that is set in the wrong mode?
[05:20] <DJJeff> 1st QEMU wants lxcbr0 now wireshark wants display: :0.0
[05:20] <DonkeyHotei> i had a computer where a usb keyboard could be used for the bios key but a ps2 keyboard could not
[05:20] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: Tell me more about that, that might be it
[05:20] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: nothing more to tell!
[05:21] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: Is there not a way I can re-set the Function-key to the right mode?
[05:21] <DJJeff> screw this crap im booting kali in a VM
[05:21] <TJ-> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: read the keyboard manual
[05:22] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: There isn't one, it's a laptop, unfortunately. What's weird it's that it just stopped working, without anything to cause it
[05:23] <DonkeyHotei> TWILIGHT_IS_AWES: pull the power and the battery, try again
[05:24] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: took the words out of my mouth
[05:24] <DJJeff> in ubuntu network-manager is garbage I swear to god
[05:24] <TWILIGHT_IS_AWES> TJ-: Only the laptop battery or that motherboard battery-thingy too?
[05:24] <DJJeff> nothing but headaches and pain
[05:25] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: now how do i fix up modemmanager after ofono?
[05:25] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: as i said, make sure the MM service is running
[05:26] <guardian1> 0/ evening... i am trying to load the GUI version of wireshark on a remote Ubuntu server... when i run sudo wireshark i get "(wireshark:6848): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" ... i realize this is a display error, but i am unsure what to do to fix it, google so far has been confusing
[05:26] <jellow> guardian1, You need X forwarding with ssh , so ssh -X user@host
[05:27] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: it's running, pid 642
[05:27] <guardian1> jellow: how do i do that from windows?
[05:27] <guardian1> to the vps
[05:28] <odin___> hello
[05:29] <odin___> klaas
[05:29] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: what does "mmcli -L" report?
[05:29] <DJJeff> virtualbox starts and not wireshark????????
[05:29] <DJJeff> lol
[05:29] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: found 1 modems
[05:29] <DJJeff> virtualbox does not need display: 0.0 ?
[05:29] <guardian1> DJJeff: i dont have virtutalbox installed
[05:29] <DJJeff> lol
[05:29] <guardian1> its a remote hosted vps
[05:30] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: OK, so MM has the modem
[05:30] <odin___> exit
[05:32] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: What does "nmcli nm" report as the status for WWAN-HARDWARE and WWAN ?
[05:33] <DonkeyHotei> enabled, disabled
[05:33] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: That explains it then; you need to enable the WWAN
[05:33] <DonkeyHotei> how?
[05:34] <DJJeff> wow so my /etc/network/interfaces was all screwed i[
[05:34] <DJJeff> wow so my /etc/network/interfaces was all screwed up
[05:34] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: how?
[05:35] <DJJeff> I fixed that and did service network-manager restart
[05:35] <DJJeff> now wireshark starts
[05:35] <DJJeff> go figure
[05:35] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: "nmcli wwan on"
[05:35] <Guest94232> Hi, I am having a very very strange issue. I have installed lubuntu on a friends computer, because he had XP and needed to upgrade from that. But anyways, his mouse moves, but the mouse cursor icon is stuck. I need some help...
[05:35] <DJJeff> if anyone has network problems look to /etc/network/interfaces
[05:35] <DJJeff> its a god send
[05:36] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: object wwan is unknown
[05:36] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: sorry, typo: "nmcli nm wwan on"
[05:36] <DonkeyHotei> no effect
[05:37] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: what effect did you expect?
[05:37] <DonkeyHotei> disabled changing to enabled
[05:37] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: So does "nmcli nm" report WWAN as disabled still?
[05:37] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[05:38] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: Check "/var/log/syslog" - that's where the logs go
[05:38] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: I tried it here, status changes to enabled
[05:39] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: "Aug 18 06:38:22 hephaestion NetworkManager[2184]: <info> WWAN now enabled by management service"
[05:42] <DonkeyHotei> modem couldn't be initialized, couldn't check unlock status, sim not inserted
[05:47] <mpourhadi> i used to have my sound working im not sure wether its related to kernel update or not i have no sound at all
[05:47] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: So, put a SIM in... or is it there and not being found?
[05:48] <DonkeyHotei> it's there
[05:48] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: Does the device need usb_modeswitch?
[05:48] <DonkeyHotei> i will try it in windows under vbox now
[05:51] <Gatis> What's the difference between dpkg and aptitude?
[05:51] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: Does the SIM need a PIN entering?
[05:51] <DonkeyHotei> no
[05:52] <guardian1> 0/ evening... i am trying to load the GUI version of wireshark on a remote Ubuntu server... when i run sudo wireshark i get "(wireshark:6848): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" ... i realize this is a display error, but i am unsure what to do to fix it, google so far has been confusing
[05:53] <lang> guardian1: there's two ways around it.
[05:53] <rww> Gatis: dpkg is the low-level system that handles package installation. APT is a front-end library set that handles repositories, complex dependencies, etc. aptitude is a program that uses the APT libraries
[05:53] <lang> guardian1: 1: sudo XAUTHORITY=/home/$SUDO_USER/.Xauthority wireshark
[05:54] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: the only report I can find is bug 1113703
[05:54] <lang> guardian1: 2: dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common; usermod -aG wireshark username
[05:54] <lang> guardian1: the first one fixes your authentication, the second one lets you run wireshark as a regular user.
[05:54] <guardian1> lang: running sudo XAUTHORITY=/home/$SUDO_USER/.Xauthority wireshark results in the same error
[05:54] <guardian1> im only term. into this box
[05:54] <rww> I note that you need to log out and back in again for group changes to take effect.
[05:55] <lang> guardian1: and you changed $SUDO_USER to your username?
[05:56] <lang> you can also fix that part permanently by adding "Defaults !env_reset" to your sudoers configuration, if you generally don't want the environment reset when sudo'ing.
[05:56] <guardian1> lang: correct, i did
[05:56] <lang> guardian1: okay.  that should work.  let me try it here
[05:58] <lang> guardian1: works for me here.
[05:58] <guardian1> hmm idk whats wrong
[05:58] <guardian1> should it work if the box is remote?
[05:58] <zhianguo> 大家好
[05:58] <guardian1> i dont have any gui installed
[05:59] <lang> and you ssh'ed with X forwarding?  (ssh -X)
[05:59] <guardian1> probably not
[05:59] <guardian1> how do i do that?
[05:59] <lang> yea, then it wont wor at all :)
[05:59] <zhianguo> 有说中文的，啊？
[05:59] <lang> you just "ssh -X user@box"
[05:59] <guardian1> inside terminal or via putty?
[05:59] <TJ-> !cn | zhianguo
[06:03] <MrSalt> lang: I forgot about X forwarding through SSH.  That's a cool trick.
[06:05] <redeleven> Does the Acer C720 Chromebook (intel celeron), support Ubuntu?
[06:06] <botnut> dunno
[06:07] <TJ-> redeleven: boot it from a Live ISO and test it
[06:07] <lang> guardian1: you need to add ssh forwarding to your ssh session into your remote host.  is your client on windows or linux?
[06:08] <lang> redeleven: according to the googles, people have gotten it to work.
[06:08] <guardian1> windows at home
[06:08] <guardian1> ubuntu 12.04 in the server
[06:08] <redeleven> Alright thanks
[06:08] <lang> guardian1: then you need a x-server for your windows machine, and then you need to enable x forwarding in your ssh client (putty?)
[06:08] <guardian1> bitvise ssh
[06:09] <guardian1> ill grab putty to make this easier
[06:09] <lang> guardian1: https://www.bitvise.com/ssh-x11-forwarding
[06:09] <lang> they even have a document describing how to do it
[06:10] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: apparently the sim had come loose
[06:10] <TJ-> DonkeyHotei: I suspected as much
[06:11] <DonkeyHotei> TJ-: thanx
[06:12] <MrK> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:12] <Katselphrime> l
[06:13] <edition> !kick | MrK
[06:15] <MrSalt> redeleven: Lookup "chrubuntu"
[06:15] <autorun_> WOW!
[06:15] <autorun_> WOOW!
[06:15] <autorun_> WOOOOW!
[06:15] <autorun_> :D
[06:18] <zhianguo> help
[06:20] <zhianguo> 怎么  进入中文？
[06:20] <zhianguo> 谢谢
[06:20] <eeee> !cn | zhianguo
[06:20] <zhianguo> xiexie
[06:24] <helmut_> hi
[06:29] <kgalahassa> how to maintain my luminosity at zero at start with ubuntu, I  don't want any luminosity, perhaps I can add it if i need later
[06:31] <djpoo> guys anyone knows if its able to add wireless connection to vmware
[06:31] <reversiblean> I get /usr/sbin/deluser: Cannot handle special file /proc/4746/fd/ ...  Errors when deleting user with deluser --remove-all-files
[06:32] <reversiblean> Why is that happening?
[06:32] <djpoo> guys anyone knows if its able to add wireless connection to vmware
[06:33] <xpand> ..
[06:33] <Loshki> djpoo: also ask in #vmware ?
[06:42] <kgalahassa> how to maintain my luminosity at zero at start with ubuntu, I  don't want any luminosity, perhaps I can add it if i need later
[06:44] <kgalahassa> how to maintain my luminosity at zero at boot with ubuntu, I  don't want any luminosity, perhaps I can add it if i need later
[06:50] <laughingtiger> what is luminosity kgalahassa?
[06:53] <kgalahassa> laughingtiger: brightness
[06:54] <kgalahassa> laughingtiger: i mean screen brightness
[06:54] <kev007> how do I open a terminal panel in a file window?
[06:55] <laughingtiger> oh, sorry I don't know anything about it, can't help yo bud. kgalahassa
[06:56] <laughingtiger> !luminosity
[06:56]  * zhianguo   大家好
[06:56] <laughingtiger> the bot don't know it either.
[06:57] <antliu> zhianguo I think you should use English instead.
[06:57] <laughingtiger> !cn | zhianguo
[07:00] <Rohan_14> How do i get latest libssh on ubuntu ?
[07:01] <kgalahassa> how to maintain my screen brightness at zero at boot with ubuntu, I  don't want any luminosity, perhaps I can add it if i need later
[07:02] <liquidee> Rohan_14: download the source from website, compile & install
[07:02] <liquidee> Rohan_14: website says to clone with git: git clone git://git.libssh.org/projects/libssh.git libssh
[07:03] <lostNick> maxtor 6b HD partition is not detected , i need to recover my data. please suggest a good app that can do every thing about recovery
[07:03] <Rohan_14> liquidee: when i cmake the statement in install file it gives some syntax error
[07:03] <hjsr> 黄神牛逼
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !cn | hjsr,
[07:04] <liquidee> Rohan_14: what exactly you do after downloading the source? normal mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..; make ?
[07:05] <lostNick> what is the best app to recover data ?
[07:05] <liquidee> Rohan_14: cmake runs fine here -> but im on arch. It may be that they are using some new cmake syntax but i dont think so
[07:05] <Rohan_14> liquidee: no i do mkdir build -->  cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug .. | and then i get stuck cause this command does'nt suceed
[07:06] <liquidee> Rohan_14: can you paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com?
[07:06] <Rohan_14> liquidee: output of what? cmake ?
[07:06] <liquidee> Rohan_14: yes, the error you get
[07:06] <liquidee> Rohan_14: or whole cmake otuput
[07:07] <zagaza> how do you guys do performance test on your vps?
[07:07] <Rohan_14> liquidee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8077774/
[07:08] <liquidee> Rohan_14: did you actually go to the build directory you have created before running cmake?
[07:09] <liquidee> Rohan_14: you have got to start the cmake from inside it -> in the error you provided it complains it wants to build out of the source tree
[07:10] <LigH> Hello. Once again, during an update with a new kernel, depmod writes modules.ccwmap until the root FS is full. What should I do to get a useful report for the developers?
[07:11] <purnanand> hey guys, problem caused during  upgradation from  ubuntu 13.04 to 14.04.
[07:12] <Rohan_14> liquidee: i did not got you can please explain
[07:13] <liquidee> when you are inside libssh folder do rm -rf build; mkdir build; cd build and then do the cmake command you presented earlier
[07:13] <Rohan_14> liquidee: ok let me try that
[07:14] <Beldar>  !details | purnanand
[07:14] <Rohan_14> liquidee: see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8077827/
[07:15] <TJ-> Rohan_14: Why do you need to build it? Ubuntu contains the latest updates
[07:16] <Rohan_14> TJ-: how do i get the lastet update ? cause for one function it says it is undefined ! how do i check which version do i have via ubuntu package ?
[07:16] <TJ-> Rohan_14: "apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0"
[07:17] <Rohan_14> TJ-: i'm doing libssh
[07:18] <purnanand> I used a command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then it ask  keep current version or not ? I pressed d for difference between current version & installed version .but after that what to do?
[07:18] <TJ-> Rohan_14: Which one? -4 or 2-1 ?
[07:18] <Rohan_14> TJ-: this one http://www.libssh.org/
[07:19] <TJ-> Rohan_14: No... *which* library are you trying to use? Are you trying to link it with your own program?
[07:19] <Rohan_14> TJ-: yes i'm trying to link it with my cprogramme using -lssh flag
[07:20] <TJ-> Rohan_14: OK, so that's libssh-4 then
[07:20] <LigH> Hello. Once again, during an update with a new kernel, depmod writes modules.ccwmap until the root FS is full. What should I do to get a useful report for the developers? - It happened right now, updating Ubuntu 12.04 (PP) LTS; now is the best chance to make a report...
[07:20] <purnanand> Can I reboot ?
[07:21] <Rohan_14> TJ-: should i show you what compilation error it gives ?
[07:22] <Jonta2> I'd like to install 32-bit JDK (Java) on a 64-bit system. There are .rpm and .tar.gz-files on Oracle's pages, but I prefer to do this via apt-get. Package recommendation? =)
[07:22] <Rohan_14> TJ-: undefined reference to `ssh_channel_listen_forward'  how ever its a example code from official website
[07:23] <TJ-> Rohan_14: The version in Ubuntu has all the latest security patches. As to function availability, you should check the Ubuntu source package configure options - the function may not be built, it may be optional
[07:23] <purnanand> llutz, I used a command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then it ask  keep current version or not ? I pressed d for difference between current version & installed version .but after that what to do?
[07:24] <Rohan_14> TJ-: how do i check ubuntu source package ?
[07:27] <Rohan_14> TJ-: there ?
[07:28] <Rohan_14> liquidee: can you call 'ssh_channel_listen_forward' from your build ?
[07:28] <TJ-> Rohan_14: This will show you the functions that are exported from the library: "objdump -T /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssh.so.4 | grep forward"
[07:34] <TJ-> Rohan_14: OK, so ssh_channel_listen_forward() was introduced in master but isn't in the stable releases
[07:35] <Rohan_14> TJ-: so what to do now ?
[07:35] <liquidee> Rohan_14: do you get undefined reference or undefined symbol? make sure you have the header files - search for them (find / -name '*ssh*' 2>/dev/null)
[07:36] <liquidee> Rohan_14: when you find them make sure you include the correct headers and the compiler can find them. You can also search them for the function you need
[07:36] <liquidee> TJ-: oh
[07:36] <liquidee> TJ-: so he needs to compile then
[07:36] <Rohan_14> liquidee: i have header file as other function worked ! TJ told the function you are using is not in any stable release its in master branch
[07:36] <TJ-> Rohan_14: You're reading the wrong documentation; commit 5229253f simply renamed existing functions, you need to use the names in the 0.6.x API, not the 0.7.x API
[07:37] <TJ-> Rohan_14: e.g.
[07:37] <TJ-> -int ssh_forward_listen(ssh_session session, const char *address, int port, int *bound_port) {
[07:37] <TJ-> +int ssh_channel_listen_forward(ssh_session session,
[07:38] <Rohan_14> TJ-: where is documenation for 0.6
[07:38] <TJ-> Rohan_14: same place as the docs for 0.7 :) ... the commit for 5229253f is here: http://git.libssh.org/projects/libssh.git/commit/?id=5229253f
[07:38] <purnanand> hey guy Tj, I used a command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then it ask  keep current version or not ? I pressed d for difference between current version & installed version .but after that what to do?
[07:39] <TJ-> Rohan_14: The stable docs are: http://api.libssh.org/stable/
[07:39] <Rohan_14> TJ-: THanks man ! thanks a lot
[07:39] <TJ-> purnanand: review the changes, decide if you want to accept them, or keep the original, then press a key to get back to the choice menu. I think it'll be using the "less" pager so pressing "q" should do it
[07:40] <Rohan_14> liquidee: thanks man !
[07:40] <energizer> Hello, I'm trying to enable automount on a HDD, so i disabled automatic mount options, changed a few things, and broke it:
[07:40] <energizer> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sdb: Command-line `mount "/mnt/teratwo"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[07:40] <energizer>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[07:40] <energizer>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:40] <energizer>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:40] <antimist> Okay, so, how do I setup applications to run at startup?
[07:40] <purnanand> ok thank ypu Tj.
[07:41] <antimist> I want to run Keepass, my password manager, when the system boots up
[07:41] <antimist> from what I read, I should use Upstart
[07:42] <antimist> but I can't seem to get the syntax
[07:42] <antimist> help
[07:42] <antimist> ?
[07:42] <eeee> antimist: dash > startup
[07:42] <antimist> oh goody, let me try that
[07:43] <antimist> eeee: Thank you so much
[07:43] <eeee> no problem
[07:43] <purnanand> hey buddy Tj, I have querry  about  What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version       D     : show the differences between the versions       Z     : start a shell to examine the situation  The default action is to keep your current version. *** rcS (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[07:45] <somsip> purnanand: so what's the question?
[07:45] <purnanand> what to do about What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version       D     : show the differences between the versions       Z     : start a shell to examine the situation  The default action is to keep your current version. *** rcS (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[07:45] <energizer> Can somebody help me mount this drive?
[07:46] <somsip> purnanand: if you have previously changed the config file, you should check to make sure the changes aren't incompatible with the new package. Or if you know you can use your old config, use it. Or you go with the new config.
[07:47] <LigH> Guys, my harddisk us full right now due to the currently running update, and when I reboot, traces of the reason may be gone. What shall I do to collect useful information about it?
[07:47] <RelayUser13> Yes
[07:48] <somsip> LigH: do you have any partitions with space available?
[07:48] <LigH> Yes, /home
[07:48] <purnanand> I want to upgrade my ubuntu from 13.04 to 14.04.Can I choose N for N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[07:49] <somsip> LigH: would creating a symlink to a new /var/log/apt-get/history.log to somewhere in home give you the information you need?
[07:50] <LigH> I don't know which information is needed, I am a mere part-time user, mostly with Windows knowledge... I would possibly rather copy it there as file.
[07:50] <somsip> LigH: maybe I misunderstand your problem. It seems that the update is failing because the log fail cannot be written. Is that right?
[07:52] <eeee> LigH: somsip how are you updating with a full hdd anyways?
[07:52] <LigH> The HDD had 22 GB free before starting the update. During the update, depmod started filling the disk in a loop, writing modules.ccwmap
[07:52] <eeee> doesn't it need space for the update?
[07:52] <eeee> oh
[07:52] <somsip> LigH: what update are you doing?
[07:53] <purnanand> hey buddy somsip, pls give answer.
[07:54] <somsip> purnanand: my previous answer still stands. You need to look at your config and decide if the old one is more appropriate to use than the new one, for each package you get this warning for
[07:54] <LigH> Not sure what it is called in english; GUI based normal update (started in the system menu, usually displays "All applications are up to date" after logging in).
[07:55] <somsip> LigH: ok - not a dist-upgrade or version update then? What package is it trying to configure when depmod causes a problem?
[07:56] <edition> whats a good movie editor for ubuntu?
[07:56] <somsip> edition: I know of lives and cinelerra but can't comment on whether they are good or not
[07:57] <LigH> I wish I could copy text out of the console in the updater...
[07:57] <edition> something professional, non-linear...
[07:57] <somsip> LigH: hightlight with mouse, middle click to pastebin
[07:57] <LigH> The kernel is being installed, dkms postinst runs
[07:57] <somsip> LigH: have you got loads of old kernels causing a problem?
[07:58] <LigH> Doesn't copy out of the installer window.
[07:58] <LigH> It happened before sometimes, not with every kernel update though.
[07:58] <somsip> LigH: take a screenshot then...
[07:58] <Jonta2> Just went with openjdk-7-jdk
[07:58] <hateball> edition: there is kdenlive
[07:59] <somsip> LigH: than I'll shorten the question to 'have you got a load of old kernels'
[07:59] <edition> but isn't that KDE intensive?
[07:59] <edition> *dependant
[07:59] <purnanand> hey buddy somsip, I have tried a way command for upgradation  ubuntu that is ,Change the Ubuntu code name from Raring Ringtail to Trusty Tahr  sudo sed -i 's/raring/trusty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list  2. Disable third party PPAs (optional, see note)  cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d  sudo rename 's/(.*)/$1.bak/' *  sudo find . -type f -name "*" -print | xargs sed -i 's/raring/trusty/g'  3. Update the repositories and upgrade  sudo apt-get up
[07:59] <NikP> How to tweak irssi to higlight my name if anybody speaks to me with "NikP: blah blah blah"?
[07:59] <somsip> purnanand: I don't see a question in there either
[08:00] <somsip> NikP: should do it by default, no?
[08:00] <NikP> Nope.
[08:00] <NikP> somsip: Normally I'm using weechat, but currently I'm on UNIX.
[08:01] <somsip> NikP: I don't recall having to set it up, but maybe you can force it with http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59794/how-to-highlight-a-person-in-irssi
[08:01] <NikP> somsip: The only color are the two bars at the top and the bottom. And the channel name gets highlighted if a user joins.
[08:01] <NikP> somsip: Thanks, I will try that.
[08:02] <LigH> I don't have many old kernels anymore, cleaned after updating to 3.13 with the new hardware stack... -- http://frupic.frubar.net/32113
[08:03] <LigH> Only a few 3.8 are left, at most 5.
[08:05] <somsip> LigH: I have no real ideas then. If you're using official kernels there may be something in LAunchpad bug tracker if others are having a problem. But it seems a bit extremem behaviour for it to have got to release. So maybe it is something local to your machine
[08:06] <LigH> I'd just like to know which information may be useful to retrieve, before I reboot and it gets fixed by the next updater call...
[08:06] <purnanand> \irssi
[08:06] <Yevgeny> anyone know what puppet is?anyone know what puppet is?
[08:07] <LigH> I wonder if there is a "usual system report tool".
[08:07] <somsip> Yevgeny: http://puppetlabs.com/
[08:07] <Yevgeny> yeah, I've read but i wonder if u can use it to manage cisco and hp switches ?
[08:08] <somsip> Yevgeny: so, anything at all that involves ubuntu? Given how you're in the ubuntu support channel
[08:08] <Yevgeny> well I'm gonna install it on ubuntu
[08:08] <NikP> somsip: Doesn't works. :D  And SSH crashes at every ncurses-based command. :D
[08:08] <Yevgeny> I tried to install other kinds of similar software but it didn't work
[08:09] <somsip> Yevgeny: more application specific than OS specific though. I suggest you try the puppet support channel
[08:09] <NikP> somsip: Failed to find terminal iris-ansi. $TERM .
[08:09] <NikP> somsip: I'll ask in an SGI-focused forum. :D
[08:09] <NikP> Bye.
[08:09] <obama> hello
[08:10] <obama> can someone help me?
[08:10] <somsip> LigH: Maybe "Debug::pkgProblemResolver" on the command line might help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/347830/how-can-i-get-a-verbose-apt-get-exit-code
[08:11] <LigH> Hello obama. Please specify your problem...
[08:11] <obama> Hello?
[08:11] <LigH> Before you tell us what, we don't know if we can help
[08:11] <obama> I launch banshee but it force closes
[08:11] <somsip> obama: open it from a terminal and look for error messages
[08:12] <obama> somsip: I launched it
[08:13] <crazyhorse18> is there a way to get a list of the .deb files for a particular package?
[08:14] <obama> somsip: it is giving me a ton of errors
[08:14] <somsip> obama: paste them
[08:14] <somsip> !paste | obama
[08:15] <somsip> crazyhorse18: depending exactly what you want, the answer is probably on here http://www.tecmint.com/useful-basic-commands-of-apt-get-and-apt-cache-for-package-management/
[08:17] <obama> somsip: http://imgur.com/vpy6bMa,R0FsbVx
[08:18] <somsip> obama: those are all warnings. is there an error being thrown too?
[08:18] <crazyhorse18> if i install a package via dpkg, if i do an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade later will it still upgrade that package?
[08:19] <obama> No, but it just force closes and i tried to uninstall i get the same error
[08:19] <abhi_> i caann  nnot use  mmy  eexteerrnnaall  kkeybord...
[08:20] <somsip> obama: maybe a apt-get --reinstall install banshee" might fix it.
[08:22] <abhi_> i caann  nnot use  mmy  eexteerrnnaall  kkeybord...
[08:22] <LigH> somsip: I replied to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1232473 and archived /var/log/apt/ ...
[08:22] <LigH> Bye for now.
[08:22] <LigH> o/
[08:22] <somsip> LigH: good find
[08:29] <obama> somsip: banshee greys out and it force close with not ui or anything.
[08:29] <somsip> obama: just found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBanshee
[08:32] <ThePadawan> all hail the president of the usa xD
[08:33] <ThePadawan> any way if have a cronjob that needs to run daily can i just create a file under /etc/cron.daily ?
[08:33] <obama> somsip: it abourt ;(
[08:34] <irgendwer4711> hi, how to use proposed updates on servers?
[08:34] <somsip> obama: so follow the instructions on that page to raise a bug report.
[08:37] <obama> somsip: in the mean time what you suggest for a media player?
[08:37] <Image_> I tried Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 on a USB drive with an old desktop that has no harddrive at the moment. It loads, I can start using it, and then the mouse and keyboard lock up and nothing works. I am not very tech savy. Any ideas?
[08:37] <somsip> obama: I don't use anything like banshee so I can't help you with that
[08:39] <kgalahassa> my computer send something automatically when I'm online
[08:40] <kgalahassa> my computer send something automatically when I'm online, how can i see it?
[08:40] <hateball> kgalahassa: What do you mean it sends?
[08:40] <cfhowlett_> kgalahassa, ???
[08:41] <cynicallemon> Image_: idea, dont use gnome...
[08:42] <kgalahassa> hateball, cfhowlett_, I 've just opened the monitor system software , and i noticed on resources window that it's sending something automatically
[08:42] <Image_> I'm open to suggestions. Like I said...fairly new to Linux in general but we've used Puppy in the past..... we were looking for a more user friendly version for our family.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, screenshot, please
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Image_, family = kids?  edubuntu
[08:43] <kgalahassa> ok,
[08:44] <Image_> Yes, and we are down a laptop so we need to make this old desktop work for the kids and their schooling.
[08:44] <cfhowlett> !edubuntu | Image_
[08:44] <cynicallemon> Image_: a while back i had an old laptop and gnome absolutely hated the graphics card, so maybe something similar
[08:44] <Image_> edubuntu may be an idea.
[08:44] <cynicallemon> Image_: how old is the machine?
[08:45] <Image_> cynicallemon, I
[08:45] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett, how can i send it?
[08:45] <Image_> I'm not sure. Several years old.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !paste | kgalahassa
[08:46] <cynicallemon> Image_: the i would look at either lubuntu or xubuntu maybe
[08:47] <Image_> Ok. I will look into those.
[08:48] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett and hateball, have a look here : http://imgur.com/JVlaYfJ, down in the network story there a notification that my computer is sending something
[08:48] <cynicallemon> Image_: you could try edubuntu too but that might be pushing the machines resources if it's getting on in years
[08:49] <PolishPickers> thats one thing about linux ya dont have to go buy new system each time freaking windows comes out
[08:49] <cynicallemon> yep
[08:49] <cfhowlett> Image_, lubuntu for the main OS.  edubuntu package the software aoos
[08:49] <Image_> ok
[08:50] <cynicallemon> yeah u can add in in
[08:50] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, auto-updates ?
[08:50] <Beldar> PolishPickers, You don't with windows either, but nice try.
[08:52] <PolishPickers> i have my current system for four years now specs (2.4hz quad core processor 8gb ram can be upgraded to 16gb 2tb hard drive 2gb nvidia video card two monitors 20.5 inch dell and a 27 inch samsung) still pretty good for a 4 year old system. beldar but yea they really wants you thou
[08:52] <kgalahassa> even if it is, does it need sending information to auto-update?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> PolishPickers, offtopic and needless window hating.  let's stay on task, shall we?
[08:52] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett, even if it is, does it need sending information to auto-update?
[08:52] <Beldar> PolishPickers, I have no idea at all what you mean so far and this is all offtopic
[08:52] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, of course.  needs to update your database and compare it against the available updates
[08:53] <Image_> thanks all. I'm going to get some sleep and try again later. I managed to get two windows desktops up and running tonight (not ours so very limited options) and then try the version of linux on the 3rd so I'm making progress.
[08:53] <PolishPickers> lol i never said i hated windows ;)
[08:58] <He4dShOt> hi...i'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick but I have some problems with the video drivers
[08:59] <He4dShOt> now i'm in the command line
[08:59] <He4dShOt> is it possible to start the installation from here?
[09:00] <PolishPickers> are you installing the server version?
[09:01] <PolishPickers> server version so far had no video output just a terminal
[09:01] <Beldar> He4dShOt, Can you describe what happens if you just boot the live?
[09:02] <He4dShOt> no it's the desktop version
[09:02] <He4dShOt> it freezes with a bunch of colored pixels
[09:02] <cfhowlett> He4dShOt, yeah, that's not a good sign.  reboot without the USB.  1. verify the ISO  2. verify the USB
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | He4dShOt
[09:03] <Beldar> He4dShOt, Did you try a nomodeset boot? Besides what cfhowlett suggests?
[09:03] <He4dShOt> the md5sum is correct
[09:03] <cfhowlett> He4dShOt, on the iso and / or the USB?  check BOTH
[09:04] <He4dShOt> on the iso...how can I md5sum the usb?
[09:04] <cynicallemon> He4dShOt: what is the video card?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> He4dShOt, read the link for instructions
[09:04] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[09:09] <He4dShOt> oh...that's new
[09:10] <Maysara14> Hi
[09:10] <He4dShOt> ok i'm trying that, but I have this problem since I can remember installing ubuntu on that machine
[09:10] <He4dShOt> I think it's because of the nvidia card
[09:10] <cfhowlett> He4dShOt, if both md5sum's match, check nomodeset as cynicallemon suggested .. could be graphics issue
[09:12] <Beldar> He4dShOt, Worse case scenario a text install with the mini from the net is doable.
[09:13] <Beldar> 12.04 still has the alternative
[09:17] <smeglepu> hey all. do others keep getting problems with the login field missing from the lock screen when you come out of screensaver?
[09:18] <smeglepu> i keep finding myself heading to an alt tty to do service lightdm restart, which is really irritating
[09:20] <Beldar> smeglepu, Have you tried the guest account?
[09:21] <smeglepu> Beldar: i don't have a guest account set up i don't think. there isn't an option to change
[09:21] <Beldar> or turned off the lock to see if it brings up the desktop?
[09:21] <smeglepu> Beldar: it's certainly the input widget that's missing
[09:21] <Beldar> smeglepu, What desktop is this?
[09:21] <smeglepu> Beldar: standard
[09:21] <smeglepu> Beldar: i'd rather not turn off lock. this is a work machine
[09:21] <Beldar> there is a guest account stock I believe
[09:21] <ktosiek> Hi! If I have a 2 packages that provide the same file, can I tell dpkg to always prefer one package's version?
[09:22] <smeglepu> Beldar: hmm, well it isn't offered. i can certainly try to enable it.
[09:22] <smeglepu> bit of a hacky solution though :/
[09:22] <Beldar> smeglepu, I'm basically asking is have you run some tests, not saying you have to unlock it completely.
[09:22] <He4dShOt> md5sum correct and with nomodeset it's working...although I have the worst resolution ever..
[09:23] <smeglepu> Beldar: fair enough. i'll give it a go
[09:23] <Beldar> smeglepu, Try the guest is not a hacky solution if it does not happen there it will be how you have tweaked it
[09:24] <Beldar> standard procedure to check this way
[09:24] <smeglepu> Beldar: ok, restarted the lightdm service. guest account was an option, so i guess it is enabled but there isn't an option to change to it
[09:25] <smeglepu> Beldar: i'll try removing lock now
[09:25] <Beldar> smeglepu, To change what?
[09:25] <Beldar> no screen saver there is what you mean?
[09:26] <Beldar> a screen saver is an addition anyway it is not on the install
[09:26] <smeglepu> Beldar: sorry, i'll call it sleep then
[09:26] <Beldar> suspend?
[09:27] <smeglepu> Beldar: yep, suspend :)
[09:28] <Beldar> smeglepu, How are you suspending?
[09:30] <frib> my battery seems to be dying faster in ubuntu than it should e.g. in windows.  is there any way i can diagnose and, hopefully, improve my low battery life?
[09:30] <Beldar> He4dShOt, Nomodeset is a low graphic, you can install and set up the needed drivers
[09:30] <trijntje> frib: you can use powertop to see if any programs are misbehaving, and it also allows you to do some tweaks to extend battery life
[09:30] <cfhowlett> He4dShOt, first install.  configure graphics post install.  Also: 14.04 or 14.04.1?
[09:31] <frib> thanks, trijntje
[09:31] <smeglepu> Beldar: just the usual 5min timeout. i've actually done barely any changes since buying this dell with ubuntu preinstalled
[09:32] <smeglepu> Beldar: actually, i have upgraded from the previous LTS
[09:32] <Beldar> smeglepu, Cool, just wondering if this was with a command.
[09:33] <frib> trijntje, the highest usage is clearly my DE, cinnamon at 20,6ms/s is that normal?
[09:33] <smeglepu> Beldar: anyway. interesting thing. just lowered the time to 1min for testing. unchecking the "require password" doesn't actually stop it being required
[09:33] <smeglepu> Beldar: so removed lock all together and it... well, removed lock. fine
[09:33] <cfhowlett> smeglepu, preinstalled was 12.04?
[09:33] <smeglepu> cfhowlett: yeah
[09:33] <smeglepu> so went from 12.04 to 14.04
[09:34] <He4dShOt> cfhowlett, 14.04.01
[09:34] <cfhowlett> smeglepu, new version; 14.04 uses lightlocker.  lightlocker can conflict with xscreensaver settings
[09:34] <smeglepu> this is lock widget missing is actually an intermittent problem, which is all the more frustrating.
[09:34] <smeglepu> cfhowlett: well well, that is interesting!
[09:34] <purnanand> what g++  compiler  use in ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[09:35] <cfhowlett> smeglepu, looking for link ...
[09:35] <He4dShOt> cfhowlett, why?
[09:35] <rishabh_> hi i am trying to install ubuntu12.10 on my windows 8.1 machine. i turned off the secure boot of windows 8.1, but still when i boot via ubuntu i just face a blank screen. i have a lenovo z50 machine. has any one installed ubuntu on windows 8 successfully ?
[09:35] <smeglepu> cfhowlett: right, sounds like a fresh install might be in order
[09:35] <trijntje> frib: I'm not sure, I haven't used powertop in a long time, and I've never used cinnamon
[09:36] <cfhowlett> smeglepu, could be.  I only install LTS and do a clean install each time.
[09:36] <smeglepu> cfhowlett: i've actually got other issues that need a different LVM layout anyway (encryptfs/nfs pain), so i might just go for the reinstall regardless
[09:37] <cfhowlett> smeglepu, sounds like a plan.  best of luck.
[09:37] <smeglepu> cfhowlett, Beldar: thanks :)
[09:38] <purnanand> hey buddy Virasun ,what g++  compiler  use in ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[09:38] <Virasun> YOu are a bot?
[09:39] <Virasun> purnanand, ?
[09:39] <llutz> !info g++ | purnanand
[09:42] <purnanand> hey buddy ubottu, it asks like that g++-multilab,g++-4.8
[09:43] <boratynskikamil> Hello, dear all. I am installing LXC on Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS.
[09:43] <boratynskikamil> lxc_container: Executing '/sbin/init' with no configuration file may crash the host
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !server | boratynskikamil, server channel
[09:43] <boratynskikamil> cfhowlett: Thanks. :-)
[09:44] <purnanand>     what version of g++  require for ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:44] <cfhowlett> purnanand, g++ (source: gcc-defaults (1.124ubuntu6)): GNU C++ compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 34 kB
[09:49] <purnanand> how to install g++ for ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[09:49] <geekstay> purnamand : It's installed no ?
[09:49] <Ben64> purnanand: sudo apt-get install g++
[09:52] <purnanand> I used  sudo apt-get install g++ , but  gives error.
[09:53] <cynicallemon> purnanand: doesnt the build-essential package install that stuff too?
[09:53] <purnanand> how to do install g++ ?
[09:55] <cynicallemon> purnanand: as i just said try, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:57] <purnanand> not working sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:58] <Ben64> purnanand: "not working" doesn't give us any information. pastebin the full error
[09:59] <daax> hey, I'm getting blank desktop after upgrading 13.10 to 14.04 (unity not starting). I've checked compiz settings and unity plugin is enabled
[10:00] <meteor0721> ...
[10:01] <purnanand>  file included from /usr/include/c++/4.8/iostream:39:0
[10:01] <kostkon> daax, you could try resetting unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[10:02] <coreder> I'm not able to connect to the vpnbook service of openvpn from Ubuntu. But it works fine from windows
[10:08] <adante> say how can i tell if my kernel (or linux install - i'm not quite undersatnding) has aufs in it?
[10:15] <innocent95> winem, Are you there?
[10:16] <TJ-> adante: "modinfo aufs" but there's also "modinfo overlayfs"
[10:17] <innocent95> winem
[10:17] <adante> TJ-: ah thanks... is there a best of breed for the various union/overlay tools?
[10:20] <TJ-> adante: overlayfs was recently trying for mainline inclusion, but a few issues have held it up so far
[10:21] <tinoco> :)
[10:27] <daax> hey, I'm getting blank desktop after upgrading 13.10 to 14.04 (unity not starting). I've checked compiz settings and unity plugin is enabled. `startx` prints this: modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:809 kmod_module_insert_module() could not find module by name='fglrx_updates'
[10:33] <EriC^^> daax: try reinstalling the fglrx_updates package
[10:34] <EriC^^> daax: apt-get install --reinstall fglrx-updates
[10:36] <EriC^^> daax: you're using the fglrx-updates drivers right?
[10:40] <daax> EriC^^: I just reinstalled them, yes
[10:41] <iptable> daax, after reinstall, reboot. it's a graphics driver.
[10:42] <iptable> daax, also, I'm guessing the installation didn't produce any errors while happening?
[10:43] <daax> iptable: correct
[10:46] <Amazing_Menace> How do I get the Gnome shell for ubuntu 14.04 side by side with unity so I can choose at the login screen?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !gnome | Amazing_Menace
[10:51] <Amazing_Menace> Will that allow me to choose between unity and gnome shell at startup?
[10:51] <tomodachi> Amazing_Menace:  the login manager
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Amazing_Menace, logout.  choose gnome session.  login
[10:51] <tomodachi> will allow you to choose with windows manager you get
[10:52] <Amazing_Menace> ok thank you I'll be back and let you know if it worked
[10:53] <daax> hey, I'm getting blank desktop after upgrading 13.10 to 14.04 (unity not starting). I've checked compiz settings and unity plugin is enabled. `startx` prints this: modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:809 kmod_module_insert_module() could not find module by name='fglrx_updates'
[10:54] <EriC^^> daax: if you are using the fglrx-updates, try to reinstall it
[10:55] <EriC^^> daax: sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx-updates
[11:07] <Nordom> howdy, I am getting permission errors when trying to compile. How can I set myself full rights to all folders and subfolders (here is my error http://pastebin.com/RaecZd5F)
[11:09] <llutz> !permissions | Nordom
[11:10] <Nordom> I tired both sudo chmod u+rwx and sudo chmod u+rwX on one of the root folders so =/
[11:12] <Nordom> and chmod u+rwx -R
[11:12] <llutz> Nordom: time to check who "u" (owner) is
[11:13] <Nordom> how do do I do that?
[11:13] <llutz> Nordom: ls -l, stat
[11:14] <joners> Hi, would anyone be able to assist with how to remove some old headers on US 12.04?
[11:15] <cfhowlett> joners, sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:15] <vievk> ee
[11:15] <llutz> Nordom: no PMs please
[11:15] <joners> tried that however get this output
[11:15] <joners> Reading package lists... Done
[11:15] <joners> Building dependency tree
[11:15] <joners> Reading state information... Done
[11:15] <joners> You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these.
[11:15] <joners> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:15] <unopaste> joners you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:15] <vievk> how it works
[11:16] <Nordom> http://pastebin.com/zMR75Bh3 is my out put on the root folder I added my permissions to
[11:17] <joners> afraid that autoremove didnt work
[11:17] <llutz> Nordom: owner is root, why? there is no need for source-trees being root-owned. only make install  might need root (checkinstall is to be preferred)
[11:17] <k1l> !paste | joners
[11:18] <joners> will do thanks, looks like it wont allow me to remove the old headers as there are unmet dependancies
[11:18] <joners> using apt-get install -f fails as well
[11:18] <joners> looks like /boot has run out of space
[11:19] <k1l> joners: we dont see what you see. so please pastebin the output
[11:19] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079179/
[11:19] <cfhowlett> joners, what's the output of sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:19] <Nordom> llutz: I am following a guide and they say to use the command  ./configure && make -j4 && make -j4 deb but that fails due to permersions so I used sudo infront and it would work mostly but hit some files in the folders that I didnt have permissions to and the compile fails
[11:20] <fifthcanton> join #irc.z.je
[11:21] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079194/
[11:21] <k1l> joners: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:22] <joners> what does dist-upgrade do?
[11:22] <Zerpex> In ubuntu 14.04 - can I downgrade the kernel to 3.11 ?
[11:22] <He4dShOt> I'm having some problem with the video drivers...I don't know what else to do
[11:22] <He4dShOt> it won't get past the login
[11:23] <k1l_> joners: updates packages that need to be reinstalled for updates.
[11:23] <k1l_> joners: but wait
[11:23] <k1l_> joners: please pastebin a "df -h"
[11:23] <joners> k
[11:23] <th3host> morning
[11:23] <k1l_> Zerpex: no
[11:23] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079222/
[11:24] <joners> boot is full : /
[11:24] <Zerpex> k1l_: okidoki - thanks
[11:24] <Nordom> llutz: any ideas?
[11:24] <k1l_> ok so only /boot is full (and quite small imho)
[11:25] <joners> yup, it was the default install when the system was built
[11:27] <k1l_> joners: the apt-get autoremove will not go through due to a halted kernel install?
[11:27] <joners> ok, what options do i have to resolve?
[11:28] <k1l_> i would manually remove some old kernel files from /boot and let the new kernel install
[11:28] <k1l_> after that remove the old pakcages and free up more space
[11:28] <joners> sounds good, just using the usual rm command?
[11:28] <joners> ie find the running kernel then rm a few of the old ones?
[11:29] <k1l_> you could mv them to another place for murphys law
[11:29] <joners> ok
[11:29] <TJ-> joners: "dpkg -l linux-image*' identify the versions that can go, then do "dpkg -r <package-name>"
[11:31] <joners> This is what ive got installed
[11:31] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079258/
[11:32] <He4dShOt> how can I find what's the problem with the video drivers?
[11:32] <joners> and i think that this is the running kernel (which doesnt get removed!)
[11:32] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079267/
[11:32] <k1l_> He4dShOt: did you try the guest account?
[11:33] <th3host> this feels like back to 1995 - I didnt know people still use IRC.
[11:33] <enchilado> /43
[11:34] <cfhowlett> th3host, ask your ubuntu support questions.  For general chitchat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <He4dShOt> k1l_, nope..
[11:34] <k1l_> He4dShOt: do that to make sure its not a user setting that makes trouble.
[11:34] <th3host> oh so we are not allowed to talk here?
[11:35] <k1l_> He4dShOt: you can look at the home of the user "ls -al" and see if all files belong to the user and not root.
[11:35] <Stanley00> th3host: this channel is for ubuntu support only. so, so you have any ubuntu support question?
[11:35] <ObrienDave> you're requested to take idle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <th3host> oh ok
[11:36] <k1l_> th3host: we try to keep this channel clear for support only. else its unfair for the amount of users who need support
[11:36] <th3host> no i dont have ubuntu questions, because i'm a master.--im out sry
[11:36] <Nothing_Much> Any possible way to disable the top Unity panel on a second monitor?
[11:37] <k1l_> Nothing_Much: not that i am aware of.
[11:37] <Nothing_Much> Ah darn it
[11:37] <Nothing_Much> I keep shutting down my host machine on Virtualbox
[11:38] <Nothing_Much> With a VM on my second monitor*
[11:38] <daax> ugh this client
[11:38] <daax> doesn't show who highlighted me
[11:38] <daax> in response to:: hey, I'm getting blank desktop after upgrading 13.10 to 14.04 (unity not starting). I've checked compiz settings and unity plugin is enabled. `startx` prints this: modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:809 kmod_module_insert_module() could not find module by name='fglrx_updates'
[11:38] <Nothing_Much> Oh hold on, I just fixed it
[11:39] <k1l_> daax: see if .XAuthori... files in /home belong to your user
[11:39] <daax> k
[11:39] <k1l_> then see if the guest account works well. if yo it must be some user setting
[11:39] <daax> k1l_: they do
[11:40] <k1l_> then see .xsession-errors for more information
[11:40] <daax> same problem in guest
[11:40] <k1l_> is your grafic driver installed properly?
[11:41] <daax> no errors when I installed it
[11:41] <daax> but I don't know how to check beyond that
[11:41] <k1l_> lshw -c video
[11:42] <TJ-> daax: see "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[11:43] <daax> k1l_: http://bpaste.net/show/STIF8Flfix7affXhHf2H/
[11:45] <Daghdha> Hi. I just typed in a name in thefilter and it finds all sorts of folders and files that were on alaptop that was connected to my network once long ago. How can i purge these? It's the standard search thing. The top left icon in 14.04 and then just type styuff
[11:45] <k1l_> daax: yes, there seems to be a driver issue.
[11:45] <Daghdha> I wonder wth it searched anyway, i don't want ubuntu to look on my lan.
[11:45] <daax> TJ-: http://bpaste.net/show/ZmDT2XF46FlBqbTzZiQl/
[11:46] <Daghdha> e.g. i getting hits on smb://laptop-name/d$/someFolderName
[11:46] <daax> TJ-: also http://bpaste.net/show/tbPiOfUzhbGwNeEsh1P2/
[11:46] <trijntje> Daghdha: system settings -> Security and privacy
[11:46] <TJ-> daax: are you booting with "nomodeset" ?
[11:47] <daax> TJ-: how to check?
[11:47] <Daghdha> laptop-name has been here only a day or 2 while i fixed it for a neighbour. How do i purge ubuntu of it's existence? Ok trijntkje i will check that
[11:47] <TJ-> daax: "grep nomodeset /proc/cmdline"
[11:47] <daax> nada
[11:48] <TJ-> daax: You need to (re)install the kernel driver
[11:48] <daax> um
[11:48] <TJ-> daax: first, see if it is available: "modinfo fglrx"
[11:48] <Daghdha> trijntje: clear usage data?
[11:48] <daax> not found
[11:49] <TJ-> daax: OK, so it'll need installing.
[11:49] <srinivas> i have installed unity version in my pc. Whether can i install the KDE using Ubuntu KDE iso ??
[11:49] <trijntje> Daghdha: that sounds right
[11:49] <daax> TJ-: you mean apt-get install fglrx?
[11:50] <Daghdha> unity-control-center just died on me
[11:50] <TJ-> daax: Yes; you might want to add in the switch "--reinstall" in case it is installed but not built the module correctly
[11:51] <Daghdha> WHat is: include online search results
[11:51]  * Daghdha disables: include online search results
[11:52] <user123321> My LUbuntu again froze in a black screen during booting. It went ok after the next boot. But this hanging happened a couple of times before. I was going through the kernal log but I'm not sure I found anything. I did see this, "Scanning 1 areas for low memory corruption      Base memory trampoline at [ffff880000097000] 97000 size 24576", does anyone have an idea what might be causing this?
[11:52] <Daghdha> trijntje: Thanks, that worked :)
[11:52] <daax> TJ-: after reboot modinfo says the same thing
[11:52] <TJ-> daax: then the DKMS system isn't building the module
[11:52] <Daghdha> trijntje: And disabling include online search results has realyc leanued up the screen nciely too.
[11:53] <daax> TJ-: this makes me haz a sad
[11:53] <daax> maybe I should just rip out this card and use onboard gfx
[11:53] <TJ-> daax: which kernel version ("uname -r") ?
[11:54] <daax> 3.8.0
[11:54] <srinivas> i have installed unity version in my pc. Whether can i install the KDE using Ubuntu KDE iso ??
[11:54] <TJ-> daax: also, which fglrx source versions are installed ("ls -d /usr/src/fglrx*") ?
[11:54] <daax> I thought dist-upgrade would update my kernel
[11:54] <k1l_> srinivas: you can install kubuntu-desktop to get the kde ubuntu
[11:55] <TJ-> daax: are you sure the upgrade completed correctly?
[11:55] <daax> TJ-: 13.350.1
[11:55] <daax> TJ-: I didn't see any problems with it
[11:55] <TJ-> daax: OK, show me what "uname -r" reports
[11:55] <daax> 3.8.0-35-generic
[11:55] <k1l_> daax: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you are on the latest updates
[11:55] <k1l_> 3.8 is an outdated kernel
[11:56] <k1l_> what ubuntu are you on?
[11:56] <daax> 14.04
[11:56] <daax> nothing to upgrade
[11:56] <k1l_> no. 3.8 is not the 14.04 kernel. 3.13 is the 14.04 kernel
[11:56] <TJ-> daax: OK, try building the module: "sudo dkms install -m fglrx -v 13.250.1 -k 3.8.0-35-generic" ... this at least might get the PC into a state where you can more easily sort out other issues
[11:57] <k1l_> so no wonder there is a problem with the drivers
[11:57] <joners> so cleared out some space out of /boot then attempted to apt-get install -f to fix missing dependancies however no joy
[11:57] <joners> having the following come back... d #ubuntu
[11:57] <daax> k1l_: as I said, I thought dist-upgrade would update my kernel
[11:57] <daax> it didn't
[11:57] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079380/
[11:57] <k1l_> make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[11:57] <daax> TJ-: so don't try to update the kernel ye?
[11:58] <TJ-> daax: If you want some GUI to work from this'll get the PC to that point
[11:58] <daax> k1l_: it wasn't
[11:58] <tomodachi> is there a  program similair to screen or tmux, but a gui one , perhaps that hooks in to gnome-terminal or something? all theese shortkeys are so tiresome
[11:59] <k1l_> daax: make sure "linux-headers-generic" is installed too.
[11:59] <k1l_> daax: then run the update and dist-upgrade again. you should get a 3.13 kernel now
[12:00] <daax> ok
[12:00] <TJ-> joners: does "sudo apt-get update" report errors? The info you pasted suggests the local package list is out of date, and giving the wrong kernel version for linux-image-server
[12:01] <joners> will look now, two seconds
[12:01] <TJ-> joners: you can see the version it depends on at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise-updates&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image-server
[12:02] <joners> apt-get update comes back fine
[12:02] <TJ-> joners: OK, try "apt-get -f install" again
[12:02] <joners> fails immediately with the same error
[12:03] <TJ-> joners: is the system using some proxy cache for the archives?
[12:03] <joners> nope
[12:03] <TJ-> joners: what does "apt-cache policy linux-image-server" report ?
[12:03] <daax> TJ-, k1l_: I have the current kernel now and modinfo fglrx gives output
[12:04] <TJ-> daax: That's good :)
[12:04] <daax> still no gui though
[12:04] <TJ-> daax: check the log-file again
[12:04] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079441/
[12:06] <TJ-> joners: try "dpkg -r linux-image-server linux-server" then try "apt-get -f install" ... if that now reports no errors, do "apt-get install linux-server"
[12:06] <daax> TJ-: just remembered to reinstall fglrx again
[12:06] <joners> ok, ill give that a go now
[12:07] <TJ-> joners: slight typo there... the final command would be "apt-get install linux-server linux-image-server"
[12:07] <joners> thanks :)
[12:07] <eeee> daax: ? lol i've been almost begging you to do so for an hour
[12:07] <k1l_> daax: did you make a restart to get that new kernel going?
[12:08] <eeee> never mind
[12:11] <daax> eeee: sorry, I missed two messages earlier - they may be yours
[12:11] <daax> k1l_: yes
[12:11] <daax> so now I'm getting a desktop - my autostart apps are running, but no window chrome or launchbar
[12:11] <daax> unspecified problems from Xorg and compiz
[12:12] <eeee> np, daax try to apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <TaZeR> xorg and compiz two of the biggest names in the industrty
[12:12] <TaZeR> we have to bring these titans down
[12:12] <daax> I'll tase you bro
[12:12] <TaZeR> we can never let them take out bunutness away from us!
[12:13] <eeee> first try sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[12:13] <bazhang> TaZeR, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat NOT here
[12:13] <eeee> ( @ daax )
[12:13] <eeee> daax: sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && setsid unity
[12:16] <daax> eeee: error: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY
[12:17] <eeee> daax: sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz-core
[12:19] <daax> eeee: compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: core
[12:19] <daax> compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display
[12:19] <eeee> daax: sudo rm -rf ~/.config/dconf/user ~/.cache/compizconfig-1
[12:21] <daax> eeee: that looks to have done it
[12:22] <eeee> cool
[12:23] <daax> yeah I think it's fixed. thanks for your help, eeee, k1l_, TJ- :)
[12:23] <eeee> you're welcome
[12:27] <hayer> I've made a "server software" that runs on ubuntu server. It is a contained/solo system, aka it takes the whole installation for itself, and we deliver these solutions as a "complete package". We send them a server with the software installed. They dont have ssh access or anything like that. Now for updates; is it possible to configure the image to look for distro upgrades in our repo and patch using these? So if we release a new update we can just release 
[12:27] <joners> sorted!!! Thank you very much for your help :)
[12:28] <ikonia> hayer: sure thing
[12:28] <cfhowlett> hayer, I believe you want to create a personal mirror
[12:29] <ikonia> hayer: just setup a debian repo, deploy the config files at build time and you're odne
[12:29] <hayer> ikonia: well, does it sound like a way to go or just "it is possible but it is mucho hassalo"?
[12:29] <ikonia> hayer: dead easy
[12:30] <ikonia> hayer: setup debian repo, deploy sources.list file/entry - done
[12:30] <hayer> mkay. so actually we just need to replace everything in sources.list with our repo.. then package our software. But what about distro upgrades?
[12:31] <ikonia> hayer: no
[12:31] <ikonia> hayer: you should deploy a file into /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:31] <ikonia> hayer: that file should just contain your repo info
[12:32] <hayer> ikonia: well, wouldn't that mean that "apt-get upgrade" would upgrade all other packages too?
[12:32] <ikonia> hayer: yes, it will
[12:32] <ikonia> hayer: you want to actually stop upgrades/updates ?
[12:33] <hayer> Kinda, we want to control what packages get updates. Like only python and security patches
[12:33] <hayer> I guess the best way would be to just give it a try ;)
[12:34] <cart_man> Hey can anybody tell me why in Lubuntu the PCI.H file is different from other Linux Distros?
[12:34] <hayer> brb setting up a vm
[12:34] <ikonia> hayer: that sounds like a very very bad approach
[12:34] <ikonia> hayer: however it's your product, so up to you
[12:35] <TJ-> hayer: You probably want to use "apt-mirror"
[12:39] <petitdav> bonjour
[12:46] <jere_> What does CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO do in linux kernel?
[12:47] <saruman> hi!
[12:47] <saruman> I have a problem with samba access
[12:48] <Guest6522> for some reason, I try to connect and it says that the password is wrong
[12:48] <Guest6522> I set a new password and it works fine
[12:48] <Guest6522> after some time, it says it is wrong again
[12:48] <Guest6522> does the password expires or something?
[12:48] <ObrienDave> that's not good. no, they don't
[12:49] <Guest6522> what may be causing it?
[12:49] <ObrienDave> that i don't know
[12:49] <Guest6522> I can just set the same password again and it works, but after some time it says that it's incorrect
[12:50] <cart_man> Hey can anybody tell me why in Lubuntu the PCI.H file is different from other Linux Distros?
[12:54] <as73790> hi, is it possible to move my current installation to a new partition without reinstalling from iso?
[13:00] <saruman_> hi!
[13:04] <MadLamb> hey, i have a chrome button in my ubuntu launcher, however when i click it, it blinks for a while and stops blinking, and when i search for chrome and click it opens. I already tried to unlock and lock again. Any clue what might be happening?
[13:10] <cookiemonster077> anybody fell like helping a total noob
[13:10] <ObrienDave> with?
[13:11] <cookiemonster077> I am trying to automatically enable wireless at bootup on 12.04
[13:12] <ObrienDave> it should work OOTB
[13:13] <cookiemonster077> i agree, but at every boot i have to pull down the menu and turn on wireless
[13:14] <k1l_> cookiemonster077: make sure you dont have a bios setting to set it to off on boot
[13:14] <Guest46381> Hi!
[13:14] <cookiemonster077> i had not even considered that i will check. brb
[13:15] <gp5st> it seems very broken that if I do shutdown via the wm an application can prevent that from happening
[13:17] <ObrienDave> MadLamb, i would think the first launcher is not configured properly
[13:17] <hayer> How to get a stable Ubuntu installation; install windows -> install virtualbox / virtualpc -> install ubuntu as vm :>
[13:17] <MadLamb> ObrienDave, what you mean?
[13:18] <MadLamb> ObrienDave, how could i fix that?
[13:18] <MadLamb> ObrienDave, if i open chrome and lock it, next time i try to open it from the launcher it also doesnt work
[13:18] <pbx> sometimes the Software Updater wiggles in the launcher, but no window appears when i click on it. what to do?
[13:20] <ObrienDave> MadLamb, try setting chrome as the default web browser in preferred applications
[13:20] <fps> hi, my /boot ran full and apt-get tells me to run -f install. so i can't autoremove old kernels
[13:21] <ObrienDave> fps, you'll have to do that manually
[13:21] <fps> ObrienDave: when i delete old vmlinuz images from /boot will it fry the package management further?
[13:22] <ObrienDave> that i don't know
[13:22] <fps> ObrienDave: but i only guessed whether that's what you meant by saying "manually"
[13:22] <MadLamb> ObrienDave, where can i find the "preferred applications"?
[13:23] <ObrienDave> fps, i mean you have to delete old kernel files manually
[13:23] <ObrienDave> MadLamb, somewhere in settings. I don't use Unity
[13:24] <fps> ObrienDave: ok, i'm chugging through them with dpkg --purge [kernel package]
[13:25] <fps> that does free the space, ok
[13:26] <MadLamb> ObrienDave, found it hidden under "details" lol. however chrome is already the default application.
[13:32] <Cakemaphoneige> is this the right place to ask questions?
[13:33] <aeyesi> yup
[13:33] <aeyesi> just ask ~
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !ask | Cakemaphoneige,
[13:34] <pbx> so the answer to my earlier question about Software Updater wiggling in the launcher, but not showing a window when clicked -- right-clicking the icon lets you just install the updates.
[13:37] <syko> hello guys
[13:37] <leeyaa> hello
[13:37] <leeyaa> how to search for perl modules in ubuntu repositories? i need XML::CanonicalizeXML
[13:38] <Cakemaphoneige> Im trying to change the text that is shown in the top box when maximised/ the text shown when minimized of a program. The program is an open source text editor. I think ive figured what exactly i need to change in the source code except i dont know what to change it to.
[13:39] <devsys> Hi All, I am running ubuntu server 11.04. When I run apt-get I get error 404's on some of the official sources, is this because of the age of my release?
[13:41] <ikonia> devsys: because you are on a distro that is end of life
[13:41] <ikonia> devsys: the repos have been removed
[13:43] <stoffe> exit
[13:44] <aeyesi> devsys i am pretty sure it is
[13:45] <aeyesi> 11.04 is creepy old ya know
[13:45] <WLM> devsys: yes, end of life.
[13:45] <WLM> Support ended for that one. Better upgrade to 14.04 or if you don't want that 12.04
[13:46] <devsys> Thanks everyone, how do I upgrade of the sources are gone? dist-upgrade or whatever?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> devsys, download the ISO and clean install.
[13:47] <aeyesi> upgrading from such old version hmhm hm well try it but no idea
[13:47] <DanielSa> hi guys, anyone tried to stop lightdm to save battery?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> devsys, OR 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 > 14.04
[13:47] <devsys> I can't just rebuild this box, gonna have to try to upgrade
[13:47] <HanifCode> hi guys i am new here
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | devsys, well, good luck with that.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> HanifCode, ask your ubuntu question
[13:49] <AlvisLaNoob> Hey, I'm Alvis and I'm a big noob. Can you help me ?
[13:49] <HanifCode> well i already made an apps using bash script. do it safe to make installation file that only copy the main file to /bin/bash and other setting folder to ~/.some_folder
[13:50] <HanifCode> i don't know how to do packaging
[13:50] <aeyesi> AlvisLaNoob just ask
[13:50] <k1l_> devsys: use the old-releases to upgrade fro 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04. from that you can think about making the LTS upgrade to 14.04
[13:50] <AlvisLaNoob> How could I use Adobe Photoshop on Ubuntu ?
[13:50] <ikonia> AlvisLaNoob: you don't
[13:50] <aeyesi> yay
[13:50] <HanifCode> alvis you can't
[13:50] <aeyesi> maybie you can
[13:50] <HanifCode> just use gimp
[13:50] <AlvisLaNoob> Ok, thanks.
[13:51] <k1l_> !wine | AlvisLaNoob ask them if it works with the latest adobe photoshop
[13:51] <aeyesi> Try gimp
[13:51] <aeyesi> if it fits you're needs
[13:51] <HanifCode> yay but an old old version via wine :D gimp is good enough i think
[13:51] <AlvisLaNoob> Ok, I'll try it.
[13:51] <aeyesi> um...
[13:52] <aeyesi> is adobe photoshop CS4 old ?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> aeyesi, ask adobe.
[13:52] <aeyesi> xD
[13:52] <Cakemaphoneige> my question/description of problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/8080087/
[13:53] <AlvisLaNoob> Thanks for everything. Bye-bye. :~)
[13:54] <HanifCode> https://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=17 << cs4 is bronze there ._,
[13:54] <aeyesi> AlvisLaNoob
[13:54] <aeyesi> just note, try install playonlinux and look over there
[13:54] <HanifCode> i never installed it myself though
[13:54] <Pici> Cakemaphoneige: You're in #ubuntu.
[13:54] <aeyesi> there is photoshop cs4 support but no idea how old it is
[13:55] <ItsMeLenny> when i try to map my wacom tablet using gnome-control-center wacom to just one screen, it does not work, is there some sort of trick that needs toi be done
[13:55] <HanifCode> i never know because never really wanted to use it anyway, :D
[14:02] <MagicSpud> hello...under ubuntu 12.04 I get an annoying message each time I login...it says something like ubuntu 1 will be shutting down services on 1st june 2014 but clearly that date is obsolete...
[14:02] <magesing> Can I do what  System-tools -> Preferences-> Additional drivers  does from the command line? The gui version doesn't seem to be working properly for me, and I'd like to see some more verbose output so I can diagnose it.
[14:02] <chrs_> any HiDPI improvments  coming in 14.10?
[14:03] <MagicSpud> how do I stop recieving the message?
[14:04] <jose__> jose mendes
[14:04] <fidel_> MagicSpud: could it be you and/or your computer is still trying to use it?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> MagicSpud, delete ubuntuone and shutdown ubuntuone autostart
[14:05] <fidel_> MagicSpud: in other words: i would try removing the related package (ubuntu-one client)
[14:07] <vahid> Hey. I am installing Ubunto 14.04.1 Lts Server 64-Bit. I have installed software step by step. But now when I am open the URL, it shows an error that "Not Found, The requested URL /magento/ was not found on this server."
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !server | vahid,
[14:08] <WLM> !trusty
[14:09] <s3nt1nel> vahid: have you tried configuring apache, php, virtual hosts and etc to run magento installation?
[14:12] <vahid> Yes
[14:17] <s3nt1nel> vahid: there may be several issues - wrong permissions on magento folder, wrong virtualhost config and wrong software config. Try configuring another virtualhost with dummy php file in it, which displays phpinfo() and see the result. if errors continue to emerge - I'd suggest you check your apache configuration
[14:17] <magesing> It seems like nomatter what I do from "Software and Updates" I am always running the nouveau driver instead ofthe NVIDIA driver, How can I properly configure my system to use a nvidia driver in 14.04? Thanks.
[14:18] <cahit> selam
[14:18] <cahit> hi
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !ask | cahit
[14:25] <Maysara14> Hi
[14:29] <patates> tilda or guake?
[14:30] <bsdbandit> good morning all im currently trying to create a kickstart ubuntu dvd rom i was just wondering is there a way to install the repos on the dvd rom so my box will not have to go out to the net to patch itself
[14:30] <bsdbandit> ?
[14:34] <Daghdha> HI, is there anyway to force my ubuntu into screenmode/size 1920x990?
[14:34] <mjayk> bsdbandit: why would you do that you can purchase ubuntu dvd s from the ubuntu website no
[14:34] <mjayk> Daghdha: try xrandar
[14:35] <Daghdha> max 1280x1024 :/
[14:36] <eeee> Daghdha: gtf 1920 990 60
[14:36] <eeee> (if your refresh rate is 60)
[14:38] <Daghdha> eeee: I did it. Nothing changed. Just a modeline was added apprently
[14:38] <eeee> Daghdha: that's what it does :)
[14:39] <Daghdha> so now i go to display and choose it?
[14:40] <eeee> no, add a mode with xrandr
[14:40] <eeee> hold on
[14:41] <eeee> Daghdha: xrandr --newmode 1920x990 <modeline from gtf here>
[14:41] <eeee> you want everything after _60.00"
[14:43] <itadder> hi how do I check for security updates with ubuntu
[14:43] <eeee> itadder: settings > details
[14:44] <itadder> I just got handed task to setup a Ubuntu Vm tempalte for devleopers
[14:44] <itadder> and I want to know how to update patches
[14:44] <itadder> to be on the latest security patches
[14:44] <itadder> I am a windows guy, so I know wsus not windows
[14:44] <Daghdha> eeee: Apparently it needs fonts
[14:44] <Daghdha> eeee: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[14:45] <Daghdha> Maybe i should j ust install proprietary AMD driver
[14:45] <itadder> eeee:  it grahped up
[14:46] <julian-delphiki> itadder: not difficult. there's either the Update Manager or running "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" or similar.
[14:46] <julian-delphiki> itadder there's also the "unattended-upgrades" package.
[14:47] <itadder> thanks
[14:48] <julian-delphiki> itadder: how do you intend to distribute the image? :)
[14:48] <julian-delphiki> or what are you going to run it on
[14:49] <David1965> should I replace the Hard-Drive in my PC with a SSD SATA drive
[14:51] <cfhowlett> David1965, why YES you should.
[14:51] <patates> I did, put and evo840 on my sata1, works great, David1965
[14:53] <David1965> also when will a patch be made available to solve the little problem where the Hard-Drive LED stays on constantly instead of flickering like normal
[14:53] <David1965> in case you are wondering what motherboard I am running it is a m2n68-la (Narra3)
[14:54] <Gatis> !help
[14:54] <patates> !patience
[14:56] <itadder> julian-delphiki:  we intended to use vmware
[14:56] <itadder> to push the image
[14:56] <Gatis> hi
[14:56] <leotr> hi! what will happen if i mount /usr as read-only system. Will the system work properly?
[14:56] <Gatis> I try to type: sudo apt install KDE
[14:56] <Gatis> but doesn't work
[14:57] <Daghdha> apt-get ?
[14:57] <leotr> ... if i don't run commands from root
[14:57] <Gatis> no apt-get doesn't help
[14:58] <ubunt> in nautilus when you want put the filter * (of explorer windows) what is the equivalence in nautilus?
[14:59] <ubunt> when search for example *.jpg or *.pdf?
[15:00] <flamedoge> find . -name *.jpg
[15:00] <flamedoge> nautilus doesnt do wildcard search?
[15:00] <scoopex> hi, is there a tool to periodically remove all outdated linux-image* packages? the default /boot is to slow for the amount of the released kernel packages.......
[15:01] <patates> scoopex, I belive autoremove does that
[15:01] <tomodachi> scoopex: there is no correlation between speed of booting the machine and the amount of old images you have.
[15:01] <patates> just enable it in unattended-upgrades settings, scoopex
[15:03] <scoopex> tomodachi: sorry :-) ~s,slow,small,
[15:04] <scoopex> patates: interesting, what is the configuration key? *searching*
[15:05] <patates> scoopex, config key? put "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";" in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[15:06] <patates> to remove manually, sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:08] <scoopex> patates: thanks...i wil test it...
[15:09] <patates> you're welcome scoppex
[15:13] <Urchin[emacs]> I'm getting "W: GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com precise-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" when I run apt-get update
[15:14] <Urchin[emacs]> what went wrong?
[15:14] <cfhowlett> Urchin[emacs], you need to reload the key.
[15:19] <jbwiv> guys, on 14.04, my Wifi icon is constantly flashing/waving in the upper right hand corner, even though wifi is disabled. How can I make it sotp?
[15:19] <jbwiv> stop rather?
[15:21] <flamedoge> u disabled it in hw?
[15:37] <devsys> Im back, successfully upgraded EOL 11.056 to 14.04 for those that doubted ;)
[15:37] <Daghdha> Has software updater replaced synaptic package manager? Can i remover Synaptic Package manager from 14.04?
[15:39] <Beldar> Daghdha, It is not installed unless you did it, can be removed yes.
[15:40] <Daghdha> Beldar: This is an upgrade.. comes from way back, started a sa 10.04 iirc
[15:41] <Beldar> Daghdha, Has it's it's benifits for some but yes can be removed.
[15:41] <Daghdha> Beldar: But i don't loose update functinality right?
[15:42] <Beldar> the ubuntu software center is it's replacement basically
[15:42] <Beldar> no
[15:42] <Daghdha> Beldar:clear :P It's GONE
[15:43] <blaubarschbube> hi. I am using ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS. for some reason i need mysql 5.5.34 but apt-get does not provide that version. is it possible to install that version via apt-get anyway?
[15:43] <Daghdha> I have this software twice in my list... Software & Updates (software-properties-gtk)
[15:44] <Daghdha> Seems to be the excact same item. same version even
[15:46] <_dist> does anyone here understand the 14.04 LTS mdadm /boot bug well enough to explain it to me? I'm not convinced I understand it well enough to be safe
[15:46] <Beldar> Daghdha, Software & Updates is needed, it just is able to be opened by itself or from the ubuntu software center and from synaptic.
[15:47] <Daghdha> Beldar: It seems to think it is installed twice. Software & Updates (software-properties-gtk)
[15:47] <Daghdha> Beldar: I bette rnot touch it then
[15:47] <Beldar> Daghdha, If you remove stuff apt-get is a good way and look closely at dependencies before you hit a y=yes
[15:49] <_dist> this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320 <--
[15:49] <Daghdha> Beldar: i am just removing software packages i don't use. Like landscape manager
[15:49] <royalaxe> Beldar: that sounds like the batman/.robin unix legend
[15:50] <Beldar> Daghdha, It is in the cache as being opened if you see it in the dash I suspect, you can clean that in what used to be called privacy I can't find it at the moment.
[15:52] <yorwos> unhi all , i have tried many times to install kwin window manager but i always get errors when running kwin --replace , is kwin working properly with amd proprietary drivers ? something else i should try ? ub.studio 14.04 ,have tried uninstalling reinstalling
[15:53] <yorwos> and i think my sound stops working also
[15:56] <Beldar> royalaxe, You have gone more abstract than I can recognize. ;
[15:56] <Beldar> ;)
[15:57] <royalaxe> well, many moons ago on a unix mainframe an admin came across two processes running
[15:57] <royalaxe> one called batman and the other called robin
[15:57] <Daghdha> I have 2 NIC in this machine. eth2 and eth3. They are bridged 'using' br0. All three show up when i click the network icon. But they are greyed out an unmanaged. How can i get them managed again? They have never been managed. Not since 10.04 (This machine comes from 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 trough updates in th epast years) Is there a way to get them managed?
[15:57] <royalaxe> he killed one and it instantly restarted
[15:58] <royalaxe> killed the other and it to restarted
[15:58] <Beldar> Lets call these Captain Kirk and Mr Spock.
[15:58] <royalaxe> their only function was to check if either were running and if not restart its companion
[15:58] <aneks> has anyone tried any of the 14.10 daily build live sessions?
[15:59] <ObrienDave> aneks, yes, i test them for install issues
[15:59] <Beldar> aneks, since the day available, #ubuntu+1 is their channel.
[15:59] <royalaxe> there was no way to kill them both even on startup
[15:59] <daguz1> How do I upgrade 12.10 to 13.04 or even 14.04?      I first tried apt-get update.  There are quite a few that say "error not found"   and failed to fetch..
[15:59] <aneks> ObrienDave: any issues getting into the destkop? I thought the live sessions would just boot automatically? mine is asking for a login and password?
[16:00] <aneks> Beldar: thanks
[16:00] <Beldar> !eol | daguz1 look at eol upgrade, a fresh installl may be better, for sure faster
[16:00] <OerHeks> royalaxe, how is this related to ubuntu-support ?
[16:00] <royalaxe> those two processed similarily named you answered for the other guy
[16:01] <royalaxe> errily silimar
[16:01] <daguz1> Thanks
[16:01] <ObrienDave> aneks, ummm, no, it should go straight to "install" or "try"
[16:01] <Beldar> aneks, Supposed to be auto login, may be a bad burn or md5sum
[16:01] <mrvadon> hello
[16:01] <mrvadon> everyone
[16:01] <ObrienDave> mrvadon, greetings and welcome
[16:02] <aneks> ObrienDave: I do get to that point and when I select try, it comes up with a login screen :/
[16:02] <mrvadon> :)
[16:02] <aneks> Beldar: I might try and burn another copy
[16:02] <Beldar> aneks, It is a development is all.
[16:03] <ObrienDave> aneks, at boot there should be an option to check the integrity of the disk. md5sum is much faster ;P
[16:03] <aneks> Beldar: yeah I know
[16:03] <aneks> ObrienDave: thanks :)
[16:04] <Beldar> daguz1, The eol upgrade does not mention some of the latest releases, it is the sources change that is key.
[16:05] <mrvadon> I have a question: why I posed the picture on the desktop does not appear on the login screen (there is a standard ubuntu picture)
[16:05] <mrvadon> ?
[16:06] <ObrienDave> mrvadon, the logon screen is different, lightdm
[16:07] <mrvadon> its standart unity login screen
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> mrvadon  i think only pictures in the default wallpaper also appear on the login screen
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> mrvadon  i think only pictures in the default wallpaper folder also appear on the login screen  <-- correction
[16:07] <mrvadon> maybe
[16:09] <guest683> is there a zenmap version for android ?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !find zenmap
[16:09] <simpleuser> Hi there. I’d like to copy all the id3 tag of a mp3 file to another one. How could I do that?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> guest683  maybe the android people know
[16:11] <guest683> no android users hete?
[16:11] <guest683> *here
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> guest683  this is the ubuntu channel
[16:12] <guest683> android and ubuntu base on linux kernel ;-)
[16:12] <simpleuser> guest683: ##linux
[16:12] <Pici> guest683: Thats nice.  Try #android or ##linux then.
[16:13] <Beldar> guest683, Are you using the ubuntu-touch?
[16:13] <Ririshi> ubuntu-touch != android
[16:13] <Gatis> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[16:13] <guest683> i use android
[16:13] <Beldar> Ririshi, And has it's own channnel.
[16:13] <llutz> simpleuser: id3cp from libid3-tools might do that
[16:14] <SchrodingersScat> !info id3tool
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> guest683  android is not supported here, you're in the wrong channel, there's no reason for you to be here
[16:14] <Ririshi> Beldar, uTouch?
[16:14] <guest683> ubuntu phone is only for developers or works fine?
[16:15] <Beldar> Ririshi, #ubuntu-touch
[16:15] <ObrienDave> !ubuntu-touch
[16:15] <ObrienDave> oh well lol
[16:15] <Ririshi> !forgetitlol
[16:15] <Ririshi> x)
[16:15] <Beldar> guest683, #ubuntu-touch ask there
[16:15] <simpleuser> Great thanks llutz
[16:15] <Ririshi> nobody says he's using that...
[16:15] <Ririshi> did he? :o
[16:16] <Ririshi> I didn't do an "edit request"? That's what ubottu just PMd me about :(
[16:17] <Pici> Ririshi: I'm not sure what that was about, feel free to ignore it.
[16:17] <Beldar> !aptitude | Gatis,
[16:17] <Gatis> !apt-get
[16:18] <Beldar> Gatis, Basically aptitude has more bells and whistles.
[16:18] <Pici> Gatis: aptitude provides some advanced dependency resolution, but for most users that really isn't needed.  It also has a cli front end.
[16:18] <Beldar> better put ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:19] <guest683> is there a better offline wikipedia applicatiob than kiwix?
[16:21] <funkymonkey> i cant realy figure out if i shuld choose Proprietary drivers or go for Gallium does any one have a input on the matter? note i will be gaming on the rig
[16:21] <yofun> So my pointer is semi frozen, like I can move it around but I can't select anything, it's symbol is currently like selecting text the "I" is there a way to restart the mouse? I got terminal open with the keyboard shortcut
[16:22] <streulma> hello, my Ubuntu 14.04 keeps crashing (compiz) on Macbook Pro 9.2
[16:22] <streulma> should I install Gnome or Mint?
[16:23] <guest683> maybe
[16:23] <Beldar> funkymonkey, I would try what is in the ubuntu repos first and may show in additional  drivers,  Proprietary are not supported here technically unless found there.
[16:23] <Beldar> streulma, Mint has there own channel ask them .)
[16:24] <streulma> yes Beldar, but I love Ubuntu :(
[16:24] <coventry> Seems like I've set myself up with a broken window manager...  I'm automatically logged in to a blank screen with mouse cursor, and no responsive keys.  C-M-F1 doesn't have any effect.  Do I need to do anything on ubuntu 14.04 to enable virtual consoles?  I'm in a rescue shell at the moment.  From that shell, how can I change the window manager ubuntu starts me up with, or disable the automatic login?
[16:24] <guest683> streulma tried gnome classic de?
[16:25] <Beldar> streulma, Than use ubuntu, I would think you know the channel norms.
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> streulma  14.04 crashed here too, the latest Mint is based on 14.04 and it crashed too, wouldnt make a difference
[16:26] <guest683> so try 12.04
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> yes
[16:26] <streulma> or 14.10 :)
[16:27] <guest683> is 14.10 already released?
[16:27] <streulma> no
[16:28] <guest683> dev release?
[16:28] <streulma> yeah
[16:28] <streulma> will try 12.04.5
[16:28] <guest683> wtf .5 ???
[16:29] <daftykins> yes, latest release. and don't use that language
[16:29] <guest683> relax
[16:29] <daftykins> i am - and i'm telling you the above :)
[16:29] <daftykins> show some respect
[16:29] <wrongplace> im formatting a HDD, ext4, I need to reduce the unused space.
[16:30] <wrongplace> is the question clear enough? Im not using standardized terminology
[16:30] <streulma> wrongplace here ! lol
[16:30] <Ririshi> Doesn't sound very understandable to me x)
[16:30] <Ririshi> But i'm a noob
[16:30] <streulma> no what do you mean wrongplace :)
[16:30] <daftykins> wrongplace: you're not making much sense no, "reduce the unused space" ? so fill it with files? :)
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> wrongplace  what is your question exactly?
[16:30] <SchrodingersScat> dd could create a file to reduce unused space
[16:31] <wrongplace> ext 4 reservers 5% of the size of the unit for emergency purposes
[16:31] <guest683> i thought .2 was latest
[16:31] <daftykins> wrongplace: do you have a partition that isn't filling the entire drive size?
[16:31] <wrongplace> 5% of 1TB is way too much space for emergencies
[16:31] <daftykins> wrongplace: i see, use tune2fs to disable the reserve
[16:31] <SchrodingersScat> wrongplace: right, and you can turn that off
[16:31] <wrongplace> how do I reduce that to 1%?
[16:31] <Ririshi> what would "emergency" be in this case? :o
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> finally a question
[16:31]  * Ririshi is wondering
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> wrongplace: tune2fs I
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> wrongplace: http://www.microhowto.info/howto/reduce_the_space_reserved_for_root_on_an_ext2_ext3_or_ext4_filesystem.html
[16:32] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I accidentally deleted a directory with rm -r. How can I get it back
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> wrongplace: you could always go with ext2, its the same but with no journal
[16:33] <expunge> ripthejacker: what FS?
[16:33] <ripthejacker> I don't want the whole directory, only a few files with .vob extension
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: on what file system?
[16:33] <wrongplace> ActionParsnip, im too much of a noob to try that, ext4 sounds updated
[16:33] <ripthejacker> expunge, ActionParsnip ext4
[16:33] <neverett> It's been years since I've used IRC so apologies for any etiquette mistakes and whatnot. Could anyone point me to the right channel or PM me if they personally know the subject. I'm using an Acer C720 (Chromebook), and I'd like to install Ubuntu 14.04 on it 100% without any remains of ChromeOS or any partitions regarding it. Free consulting would be nice but willing to front up about 10USD via PayPal or some such service, if need be.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> wrongplace: there are differences, ext2 still has a place, especially in usb and flash storage
[16:33] <expunge> !ops dedondee porn spam or something
[16:33] <wrongplace> so , I cd to the directory and tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sda1 will set the "reserver" to 1%, is that right?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: I'd use your backups
[16:34] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, I don't use any backup tool.
[16:34] <rww> daftykins, expunge: thanks
[16:34] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, with ext4 is it not possible to recover.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: it can but its painful, why dont you backup your data>
[16:35] <daftykins> rww: *tips hat*
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: what f the drive motor or ide fails, where is your data
[16:35] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, :|
[16:35] <daftykins> ripthejacker: maybe you should rip the DVD again ;)
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> much quicker
[16:36] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, Well most of the important stuff I need is on dropbox.
[16:36] <wrongplace> done. thx
[16:36] <guest683> you dont need extra application to backup on other hd
[16:36] <ripthejacker> daftykins, I don't have the dvd. :P
[16:36] <daftykins> bad luck then
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: if you can get a drive of equal or larger size mounted writable you can boot to liveCD and use foermorst. You will recover EVERYTHING that is on the drive now as well as in the gaps that was deleted.
[16:37] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, I am willing to go through through any painful process.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: you will lose folder and name data but the files may be recovered
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: if the location the files were on the drive that were where the data was physicaly on the drive then it is irrecoverable
[16:37] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, so I need an additional hard disk?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker:  so you will need to do a bit bny bit recover of the entire partition, then leaf through what you need
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: yes to spit the result to
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: or, if you had an actual backup, you could have casually copied and pasted the data and be done
[16:38] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, I'll get the dvd.
[16:38] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, daftykins thanks guys
[16:39] <ObrienDave> that was easy ;)
[16:39] <daftykins> think before you use 'rm' in future
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: or you could have used zfs with snapshots, but nobody thinks about data integrity anymore and love to learn the very hard way about backups
[16:39] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, and yeah I'll remember that. but I don
[16:39] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, don't have an extra hdd.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: then you'll need some form of storage to output files to
[16:40] <wrongplace> how do I change the owner of a HDD?
[16:41] <daftykins> wrongplace: chown -R user:group /path/to/mount
[16:43] <morkeleb> Q: Can someone point me to an application that enables me to format an USB stick?
[16:43] <daftykins> what OS
[16:43] <morkeleb> Was that for me?
[16:43] <daftykins> yes
[16:44] <daftykins> just click 'dash' then type 'disk' you should be able to do a lot from that fine
[16:44] <morkeleb> Well...I'm trying to make an installer for an old EEE 901, and the stick is currently formatted with Fat32, which it cannot read.
[16:44] <html> hello all
[16:44] <morkeleb> So I thought I'd try extFAT, f.ex.
[16:44] <daftykins> morkeleb: Eee's can read FAT32 fine, you must've created it wrong. what OS are you trying to make install media from?
[16:44] <expunge> html: hello
[16:45] <expunge> morkeleb: dosfsprogs, mkdosfs
[16:45] <expunge> dosfstools, sorry =)
[16:45] <wrongplace> daftykins, do I have to unmoun the unit to do that?
[16:45] <morkeleb> dafty: Some says that's a common problem. I formatted the stick in Windows, then used unetbootin to create a debian boot installer
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> morkeleb  what system are you in now? ubuntu?
[16:45] <wrongplace> unmount*
[16:45] <html> expunge,  hi
[16:45] <expunge> heya
[16:45] <morkeleb> The eee doesn't see it at all, even when the BIOS is set to boot from ONLY the USB stick and nothing else.
[16:45] <daftykins> morkeleb: why are you not asking in #debian then? :)
[16:45] <morkeleb> Ubuntu, of course
[16:46] <morkeleb> This is an Ubuntu question :-)
[16:46] <expunge> morkeleb: try another USB port
[16:46] <morkeleb> Ubuntu is the system I'm using, in this case to create a debian usb installer for a small server.
[16:46] <morkeleb> expunge: Tried all 3 of them.
[16:46] <html> expunge,  do you play minecraft? is so can you see it you can help me test the server?
[16:46] <daftykins> morkeleb: again i shall ask - what host OS are you creating from?
[16:47] <daftykins> wrongplace: no... no unmount necessary. you can't change ownership on an unmounted volume
[16:47] <morkeleb> dafty: And again I shall answer: Ubuntu 14.04.
[16:47] <daftykins> morkeleb: format the drive as FAT32 then 'dd' the ISO onto it
[16:47] <guest683> minecraft is a cool game
[16:47] <daftykins> morkeleb: well you could've been specific the first time
[16:47] <daftykins> kinda makes life easier
[16:48] <morkeleb> I could have. But I took for granted that it was obvious, since this is an Ubuntu channel :-)
[16:48] <morkeleb> dafty: What's the difference between using unetbootin and dd-ing it over, then?
[16:48] <timothy_hoxley> Hi, I have an issue. I installed lubuntu on a friends computer. Everything works but his mouse, I mean the mouse moves you can see it highlight stuff but the cursor is stuck so you can't visually see where the mouse is.
[16:48] <expunge> morkeleb: you might need to alter your BIOS config, then
[16:48] <expunge> html: sorry I do not; /msg alis list *minecraft*
[16:48] <daftykins> morkeleb: just try it
[16:49] <expunge> there's an open source minecraft implementation, too
[16:49] <morkeleb> Sure, I will. Just wondering if there's supposed to be a difference.
[16:49] <guest683> minetest
[16:49] <daftykins> morkeleb: right but we get people running other distros and also Windows, wanting to make up media to install, so it helps to know. kinda not my first time in here...
[16:50] <Ririshi> I have a quite weird question
[16:50] <daftykins> ...
[16:50] <Ririshi> Is it normal that stuff crashes as soon as I start my PC up?
[16:50] <coventry> I'm getting "Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch" on a Dell Inspiron i3542-3333BK.  As far as I can tell, it has no such physical switch.  I was monkeying with virtual console keys ("Ctrl-Alt-F<n>") when this happened.  No combination of Fn-F<n> with control or alt seems to re-enable it.  I've tried rfkill unblock, modprobe dell_laptop, and rebooting.  Any suggestions?
[16:50] <daftykins> Ririshi: of course not
[16:50] <neverett> Okay, readdressing my original question: Got a Chromebook. Need to delete all data and partitions related to ChromeOS and install Ubuntu 14.04. Anyone kind enough to help out for free or make 10 bucks?
[16:51] <daftykins> coventry: do you have the wifi logo on a F# key, which you need to use e.g. Fn+F2 to enable?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> neverett: there are lots of guides on youtube and junk
[16:51] <Ririshi> daftykins, well my gtk icon cache blabla 3.0 crashed, jockey crashed as well...
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> neverett: what model chromebook thing do you have?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> neverett  use a live usb stick, gparted, delete the partation you want
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> partition*
[16:51] <coventry> daftykins: Yes, Fn+F2 is the key... Hitting it doesn't re-enable wifi.
[16:52] <daftykins> neverett: chromebooks are not officially supported, but you can likely find guides online to get them into developer mode and install another OS
[16:52] <morkeleb> expunge: What do you mean "alter the BIOS config"? It's set to boot from external devices. Nothing else to do.
[16:52] <Beldar> coventry, You might look at the manual I suspect that messing around turned off the wifi, I have a computer that uses alt-f6 to do this.
[16:52] <daftykins> coventry: do you see the output of "rfkill show all" change when you press it?
[16:53] <neverett> ActionParsnip, yes. But none of them are quite newbie-friendly. I've already got this puppy running Ubuntu on developer mode (Acer C720) but I'd like to erase all partitions related to Chrome and just have Ubuntu plain and full.
[16:53] <wrongplace> done
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> neverett: ubuntu has a partition manager as part of the installer.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> neverett: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=acer_c720_linux&num=1
[16:54] <jhutchins> morkeleb: If you use unetbootin or other tools to "burn" an iso image to a USB drive, the previous format and partitioning of the drive is overwritten.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> neverett: took me what.....10 seconds to find....
[16:54] <jhutchins> morkeleb: When you mount the USB on your working installation what do you see?
[16:54] <neverett> I am fully aware but it doesn't show me those nice Google partitions. So probably need to remove the write-protect screw and whatnot but I'd rather not without actually knowing what to do.
[16:54] <AlexPortable> There was some tool where you could select backgrounds and some other settings
[16:54] <AlexPortable> but i forgot the name
[16:55] <jhutchins> morkeleb: I suspect that you do not actually have a bootable device.
[16:55] <AlexPortable> gnome tweak tool or similar, it had a few tabs on the top
[16:55] <neverett> ActionParsnip, yes, I know how to Google too and that's been bookmarked. Not enough, tho.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> neverett: then what is the issue (I don't google, I quack)
[16:56] <guest683> ddg?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> guest683: always
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> yes, me too, ddg
[16:56] <daftykins> coventry: something else you can try, was this a Dell?
[16:56] <guest683> i say im duckduckgoing
[16:56] <neverett> The issue is, I'm just extremely lazy to mix'n'match 4 different tutorials. How to set up developer mode, how to remove write-protect screw, how to set seabios by default, how to remove all partitions, how to fiddle with flags and install ubuntu and whatnot.
[16:57] <neverett> So, me stupid.
[16:57] <neverett> Was hoping for step-by-step instructions for 10 bucks. Too lazy to do it myself.
[16:57] <source47> hi guys. i am having problems starting lxc on a new install in ubuntu. anyone can help?
[16:57] <OerHeks> neverett, this guide should work > http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/764181-how-to-install-linux-on-an-acer-c720-chromebook but beware, not all hardware work properly,  Mic audio might still have issuus, touchscreen miscalibration  and suspending
[16:57] <daftykins> neverett: right, but it's your device and so your risk to modify i'm afraid.
[16:57] <huleo> hi guys, I'm wondering if there's any cli ftp client you would particularly recommend
[16:57] <source47> https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/65ce3c6f0fcf9deac0d6
[16:58] <huleo> need arose for the first time
[16:58] <huleo> (normally I just use filezilla)
[16:58] <coventry> daftykins: Sorry, was rebooting to look for a solution in the bios.  Yes, C-M-F2 seems to change the rfkill outptu.  Yes, it's a dell.
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> neverett: well you are doing something the system isnt intended for, so the how to's will be fragmented.
[16:58] <jhutchins> source47: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[16:58] <neverett> Precisely. So I'd like some hands-on experience and advice.
[16:58] <source47> please see the gist jhutchins
[16:58] <daftykins> coventry: ok so what does the output look like before and after toggling the switch? can you use pastebin to share?
[16:59] <source47> i just downloaded a standard template and tried to start a container
[16:59] <source47> but it seems to have some files missing on cgroup somehow..
[17:00] <coventry> daftykins: It's bizarre.  Starting now from soft/hard block no/no.  Hit C-M-F2, it's yes/no.  Just changed without me hitting those keys to yes/yes.  Hit again, now it's no/no.
[17:00] <coventry> Hit again, it's yes/yes.
[17:00] <coventry> Hit again, it's no/yes.  Etc.
[17:01]  * eeee is dizzy
[17:01] <source47> any ideas why the cgroup folder is missing jutchins ?
[17:01] <daftykins> coventry: i don't recall off-hand which value is which so i'd rather see output :) set it so the hardware block is off, then power off, remove mains + battery, re-insert battery, boot
[17:01] <Steve973> Hello.  I'm wondering if I can disable username/password login for a user (by doing passwd -l) and then execute commands via ssh *as another user*.  For example, as user1, do ssh user2@server 'command'.  I'd be disabling password login for user2@server, just to clarify.
[17:02] <Steve973> would user1 have to use user2's private key and supply user2's public key when connecting via ssh?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Steve973: you can tell sshd to only allow connections using ssh keys, if that's what you wnat
[17:03] <rww> Steve973: user2 (or a system administrator) would add user1's public key to user2's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[17:03] <Steve973> ActionParsnip: sure, but my use case is a bit different.
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Steve973: if you disable the account, the login will fail
[17:03] <rww> Steve973: then user1 can just do the command you mentioned and authenticate using their key rather than user2's
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Steve973: keys or not
[17:03] <Steve973> rww: will that allow user1 to execute commands as user2?
[17:04] <rww> Steve973: it will allow user1 to login as user2, so yes, it would allow commands too
[17:04] <rww> (or rather, user1 will be able to do anything user2 can do)
[17:04] <rww> and yeah, see the caveats ActionParsnip is saying regarding user accounts
[17:04] <Steve973> ActionParsnip: as I understand it, -l will still allow key access.
[17:05] <odisa> Hello. I'm trying to get SSH to read a private key from external media, but it gives me a file permission's error. Somehow I can't change the file permissions to 600; it just keeps reverting to 644: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8081360/
[17:06] <odisa> Why does it do that?
[17:06] <llutz> odisa: the file is on vfat/ntfs?
[17:06] <Blenda> hi all
[17:06] <odisa> let me check lutz
[17:07] <coventry> daftykins: Thanks... that seems to have fixed it.  Is the Fn+F2 behavior something I can disable in ubuntu, or is it straight to hardware?
[17:07] <odisa> fat32 llutz
[17:07] <daftykins> coventry: tends to be more low level
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice catch
[17:08] <daftykins> odisa: you can't write permissions to non-Linux filesystems
[17:08]  * odisa slaps forehead
[17:08] <llutz> odisa: vfat cannot hold unix permissions, use umask=....   as mount-option
[17:08] <coventry> Ugh, that's horrible... Will amazon let you return a machine if you've blown away its windows install?
[17:08] <coventry> Sorry, off-topic
[17:08] <odisa> thanks daftykins llutz.. duh, haha. I'll make it ext4
[17:09] <llutz> odisa: thats better
[17:09] <Blenda> Q: is it possible to screencast audio/video Bitwig with my internal soundcard, if so, what is the best app?
[17:10] <jost> How can I print out my SSH public key(s)?
[17:10] <jost> Or export them to a file or something
[17:10] <rww> jost: they should be in ~/.ssh/id_something.pub
[17:10] <odisa> they should already be in a file
[17:11] <rww> something is usually rsa
[17:11] <jost> rww: yes, I know... But I need instructions for persons who don't use linux and who don't know where to search
[17:11] <jost> the have a bash shell with ssh though
[17:12] <daftykins> jost: i'm sure you'll find something online.
[17:12] <jost> daftykins: I have searched. All I find is the thing rww said above...
[17:12] <daftykins> write a guide for them then
[17:12] <beginer> I had a dual boot system with both Windows XP and ubutnu 12.04. Again installed Xubuntu 14.04 by replacing the partiontions of ubuntu 12,04. But after installation GRUB doesnot recognise any windows OS in the HDD.
[17:12] <rww> jost: so they're using ssh on a different operating system, or...?
[17:12] <jost> rww: yes
[17:13] <beginer> But the windows partitions are there, and I can mount and see the files, how can I make GRUB read the partitions of Windows and boot it.
[17:13] <jost> Hmm, I'll just send them their keys per mail
[17:13] <rww> jost: I don't know of a way to export ssh keys through the ssh client itself, and I'd recommend contacting the support venues for that operating system or something
[17:14] <rww> since other OSes tend to put that sort of thing in other places
[17:14] <eeee> beginer: try to run update-grub see if it adds it
[17:15] <beginer> ok i'll try and restart.
[17:15] <jost> rww: that's why I wanted to export it using the ssh-client... But I have the keys, so I can just mail them, problem solved :-)
[17:15] <eeee> it should mention that it found it
[17:15] <rww> jost: alrighty :)
[17:16] <beginer> eeee, ok I did that but it doesnt detect windows
[17:16] <beginer> The output says, found linux image , initrd image and then the memtest images
[17:17] <beginer> eeee, Anything else to be done with grub-probe command?
[17:18] <OerHeks> !info os-prober
[17:19] <beginer> OerHeks, I tried os-prober still only the old ones in the list.
[17:19] <odisa> changing it to ext4 worked, thanks
[17:19] <beginer> I did an update-grub after that, still the same list.
[17:20] <eeee> beginer: you can manually add it
[17:20] <beginer> eeee, oh that'll be great.
[17:20] <beginer> How do I do that?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> beginer: you can add the windows bootloader back in so that only windows boots, then boot to liveCD and reinstate Grub and it should pickup the Windows boot
[17:21] <eeee> beginer: do you have a windows recovery cd?
[17:21] <beginer> ActionParsnip, oh
[17:21] <eeee> you'd need to run bootrec /fixmbr
[17:21] <beginer> eeee, I get the point.
[17:22] <beginer> at present I dont, is there any other way?
[17:22] <eeee> beginer: you can add it manually, sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[17:22] <beginer> eeee, ah let me try that
[17:24] <Blenda> Bitwig question: it takes/needs all the soundcard when running, i need to screencast videos, but i doubt the recorder will capture anything. What is the most popular recorder? THx
[17:24] <beginer> ok by the way ,  I browsed a bit before coming here, so found some forums stating GPT issues, and to use fixparts.
[17:24] <beginer> but fixparts doesnt provide and warning for GPT signatures.
[17:24] <eeee> beginer: yes, if you had uefi before, and made it mbr, it might have stray gpt data
[17:25] <beginer> eh, no idea about uefi, I had a dual boot earlier with win xp and u12.04
[17:25] <beginer> /dev/sda1   *          63   244187999   122093968+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[17:25] <beginer> hey this is my first partiotion
[17:26] <beginer> it stat ok? The sector starts at 63
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> beginer: thats fine
[17:26] <beginer> oh, ok so how do we detect if it is the GPT.
[17:26] <beginer> stray GPT.
[17:26] <odisa> so if I want more support on SSH.. do I need to go to #openssh or #ssh? Which does ubuntu run?
[17:27] <beginer> Warning: 0xEE partition doesn't start on sector 1. This can cause problems
[17:27] <beginer> in some OSes.
[17:27] <beginer> is the only warning by fixparts
[17:27] <html> odisa,  what do u need?
[17:27] <rww> odisa: Ubuntu uses OpenSSH, and #openssh would work. I haven't heard of / used #ssh, so I don't know which implementations it supports.
[17:28] <rww> odisa: You can also ask here, assuming you're using Ubuntu.
[17:28] <rww> odisa: (that's assuming #openssh supports ported openssh. they conceivably might not)
[17:29] <odisa> ok thanks! Yes, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04. I'm trying to set it up so that SSH scans my external media for a private key, so that I can keep it on an SD as an added layer of security
[17:29] <odisa> can't find any tutorials/guides on it alas
[17:30] <odisa> I tried ssh-add, but that appears to just add it to the agent regardless of whether the SD card is mounted or not
[17:31] <andi_> Hello. I in ubuntu i can only connect to open wlan networks not to secured wlan networks. what should i do?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> andi_  enter the key to connect
[17:31] <odisa> andi_, how do you mean you can't connect to secured wlan networks? It doesn't see them, it gives you an error? You need to have a password for secured networks
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> andi_: what wifi chip do you use?
[17:32] <andi_> i see the secured network but i don't get a prompt for entering the network
[17:32] <andi_> it worked some months ago
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> andi_: does the system have a make and model?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> andi_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:32] <peterrooney> ubottu: !crosspost
[17:33] <andi_> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[17:33] <andi_> fresh install
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> andi_: and what wifi chip?
[17:33] <andi_> Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> andi_: is it the iwlwifi driver module?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> those centrino chipsarent great
[17:34] <timothy_hoxley> Ok, has anyone know how to fix a mouse cursor frozen on the screen, but you can still highlight stuff but your cursor is frozen in place?
[17:34] <Ririshi> Soo
[17:34] <andi_> only encrypted networks don't work
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> andi_: doesnt answer my question....
[17:34] <eeee> timothy_hoxley: did you try unplugging and plugging back in?
[17:35] <odisa> timothy_hoxley, sounds like whatever tracking method it's using is damaged
[17:35] <andi_> ActionParsnip, which command should i execute?
[17:35] <jhutchins> andi_: What kind of encryption?  What are you using to manage connections?
[17:35] <Ririshi> I asked in the CyanogenMod channel what a header is... the guy wouldn't answer me because it's a super stupid question apparently... Could anyone explain to me what a header is? (was about the kernel source in an Android ROM)
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> andi_: sudo lshw -C network        look for:   driver=
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> andi_: what module does it use?
[17:35] <jhutchins> andi_: What release are you on?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> jhutchins: trusty
[17:36] <daftykins> Ririshi: that's not a relevant topic here, given as you know... it's an UBUNTU support channel and all.
[17:36] <daftykins> Ririshi: go find an android channel
[17:36] <PeterCassetta> Hello folks, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my new laptop a while ago. Everything's great so far, except for some reason the wake from suspend dialog changed back to the one found in older versions.
[17:36] <daftykins> Ririshi: or try #linux
[17:36] <Ririshi> daftykins, I thought I could talk about kernels here, aswell :/ I'll try another channel then ^^
[17:36] <PeterCassetta> Any idea what's happened?
[17:36] <daftykins> Ririshi: not when they're not ubuntu, no :)
[17:36] <beginer> menuentry "Win XP" {     insmod  part_msdos        insmod ntfs       set root='(hd0,msdos0)'       chainloader +1      }
[17:36] <odisa> try #android-dev
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> andi_: it will be in the big block of details, you will have one for the Ethernet too
[17:37] <beginer> is this correct? Please ignore indentation.
[17:37] <eeee> beginer: looks about right
[17:37] <odisa> at least I think that was the channel name..
[17:37] <PeterCassetta> I'm sure I was tinkering around with something when that happened; I just want the pretty suspend screen back :)
[17:37] <andi_> http://paste.debian.net/116220/ sudo lshw -C network | grep -i driver=
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> andi_: if you have a web connection now, you can pastebin the entire output if you want http://pastie.org
[17:37] <beginer> alright then lets go with it eeee
[17:37] <beginer> ;)
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> andi_: good enough
[17:37] <peterrooney> Ririshi: try ##programming
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> andi_: try:   echo "options iwlwifi swcrypto=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwififix.conf > /dev/null
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> andi_: reboot to test
[17:39] <odisa> rww, sorry forgot to tag your name. So is it possible to set up SSH so it scans a mountpoint for a private key?
[17:39] <andi_> ActionParsnip, ok i reboot soon i'll be back bye
[17:39] <rww> odisa: ssh -i /path/to/private/key
[17:40] <rww> odisa: you're the person who had permissions issues, right?
[17:40] <beginer> gosh eeee , manually editing  40_custom too doesnt work, no change in update-grub output.
[17:40] <odisa> rww, sweet! so that'll make it scan that path every time? i.e. it's a permanent addition?
[17:40] <odisa> yes rww
[17:40] <eeee> beginer: i think the msdos0 is wrong
[17:40] <daftykins> sounds more like a per instance thing
[17:40] <odisa> fixed the perm issues now
[17:40] <beginer> o
[17:40] <beginer> o
[17:41] <eeee> beginer: try msdos1
[17:41] <rww> odisa: no, you'd want to set up ~/.ssh/config if you want it to be permanent. See man ssh_config, paying attention to the IdentityFile section
[17:41] <eeee> what was your partition number again for windows?
[17:41] <eeee> sda1?
[17:41] <Ririshi> yeah it was
[17:41] <odisa> Thanks rww, I'll have a look
[17:41]  * Ririshi randomly memorized the partition for his Windows partition
[17:41] <beginer> :(  eeee still the same.
[17:42] <beginer> /dev/sda1
[17:42] <eeee> try set root = (hd0, 1)
[17:42] <andi_> ActionParsnip, it still doesn't work :(
[17:43] <andi_> andi_, it already worked whith the same ubuntu version but a new install and an update/upgrade and it didn't work anymore
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> andi_: try                  echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwififix.conf > /dev/null        one more reboot
[17:43] <beginer> eeee, nope, again same.
[17:44] <odisa> rww, just to confirm; this would be client-side right?
[17:44] <jhutchins> odisa: Similar for client or server.
[17:44] <andi_> ActionParsnip, ok
[17:45] <jhutchins> odisa: You might try "apropos ssh" to see what documentataion there is for the various configurations, it's always handy to be able to look up the correct syntax.
[17:47] <andi_> ActionParsnip, no change :(
[17:47] <odisa> Thanks jhutchins! So I can either instruct the server to look in a specified client path for a private key, or the client? I suppose server would be best if I'd want to use this method from multiple computers then.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> andi_: ok, remove the file and the option will not get applied
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> andi_: does the system have a make and model?
[17:49] <andi_> ActionParsnip, i don't know what you mean
[17:49] <andi_> ActionParsnip,  i ran sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwififix.conf
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> andi_: is the system a Dell? an HP?
[17:50] <knob> Hello everyone.
[17:50] <pbx> any gnome-do users know if there's a plugin that keeps track of the last thing you invoked it for?
[17:50] <knob> Got a n00b question:::
[17:50] <x_root> after a few days using gnome i tried to use unity but now is not loading the wallpaper.
[17:50] <Ririshi> N00B AHEAD
[17:50] <x_root> why? o.O
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> x_root: when you use Unity, you are using Gnome too.....
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> andi_: or is it a home build?
[17:50] <andi_> ActionParsnip, http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87I.html#hero-overview thats the mainboard
[17:50] <zergut> Good evening, how to type copyright sybmol in Ubuntu?
[17:50] <Ziber> Can I have AllowGroups and AllowUsers in my sshd_config together?
[17:50] <x_root> ActionParsnip, that's what i thought.. but, why this happens?
[17:51] <beginer> eeee,  is it possible to install win bootloader with normal XP installation CD?
[17:51] <ObrienDave> Ririshi, thanks for the warning
[17:51] <eeee> beginer: no idea, if you can get a command prompt, maybe
[17:51] <eeee> x_root: sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && setsid unity
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> x_root: not sure tbh, i don't have a wallpaper set
[17:51] <knob> I have a Ubuntu 14.04 server setup for a small website I run.       I have a camera uploading photos to it.        I created an account for the camera, so she uploads.            The destination of the photos is    /home/camuser/photo01.jpg                      Yet the website is published from   /var/www/myWEBSITE.com                                   How can I make the /home/camuser/photos01.jpg      public?                With a symlink?
[17:51] <knob> What would be the best way to go about it?
[17:51] <zergut> is it windows-like?
[17:52] <Ririshi> ObrienDave, I was talking to knkob :p
[17:52] <switchtehbeat> hi, I installed ubuntu 14.04.1 along side windows 7 but it's slow and unresponsive even with an i7. how can I remove it from the bootloader and stay with win7?
[17:52] <Ririshi> ObrienDave, knob*
[17:52] <andi_> ActionParsnip, it is homebuild but did already work some time ago
[17:52] <eeee> switchtehbeat: something isn't right
[17:52] <beginer> eeee, anyway thanks, I'll check that out somehow.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> zergut: ©  copy and paste that :)
[17:52] <Ririshi> ObrienDave, I didn't mean to caps it out though :/
[17:52] <ObrienDave> Ririshi, oh, i thought you were warning us about you ;P
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> andi_: do you have the latest BIOS?
[17:52] <switchtehbeat> eeee, ?
[17:52] <OerHeks> knob safest way is to copy to /var/www/ not to symlink to your users /home/ as you have to be logged in to make it work
[17:52] <eeee> beginer: did you try boot-repair ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> andi_: do you dual boot?
[17:53] <zergut> ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot ;)
[17:53] <Ririshi> ObrienDave, He said "got a n00b question" so I was like "n00b ahead"
[17:53] <beginer> eeee,  no dont have a winn repair cd.
[17:53] <knob> OerHeks, so, I copy every minute?
[17:53] <zergut> ActionParsnip: Anyway, how to type it natively? ;)
[17:53] <knob> with a cronjob?
[17:53] <andi_> ActionParsnip, yes i did install windows 8.1 and then mythbuntu
[17:53] <eeee> beginer: no i mean the package, in ubuntu
[17:53] <beginer> oh..no I didnt know about that.
[17:53] <eeee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:54] <OerHeks> knob, why not let your camera write directly?
[17:54] <beginer> eeee, checking taht.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> andi_: did you disable the ability for the wifi to wake the system up in Windows device manager?
[17:54] <ObrienDave> Ririshi, yes, i do actually understand english
[17:54] <Ririshi> ObrienDave, Good to know. :)
[17:54] <b0rsuk> Hi, I'm playing a windowed game in KDE4. Do you know a way to prevent cursor from leaving window ? Not in Wine.
[17:54] <knob> OerHeks, hm... so I can give access to  camuser         to /www/var/myWEBSITE.com/camuser/          ??
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> b0rsuk: try in #kubuntu too
[17:55] <andi_> ActionParsnip, i don't know
[17:55] <b0rsuk> ActionParsnip: Ah. Smart !
[17:55] <beginer> eeee, got to leave, will update you tomorrow.
[17:55] <beginer> Thank you.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> andi_: its a concious effort, so I'm guessing not
[17:55] <eeee> beginer: ok, np
[17:55] <OerHeks> knob make the camuser member of www-data and you'll be fine
[17:55] <andi_> ActionParsnip, should i look for it?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> andi_: yes
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: bit easier
[17:55] <knob> OerHeks, ok
[17:55] <andi_> ActionParsnip, ok 2 min mom
[17:58] <andi_> ActionParsnip, now i run irc on a different pc so i don't need to logout and in
[18:07] <andi_> hello. i can't connect to secured wlan networks but i can connect to open networks. i don't get a password-prompt. i'm using ubuntu 14.04.1
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> andi_  try wicd
[18:10] <chrisss123456> hey guys, i’m thinking of installing ubuntu on a new thinkpad t440. i know there’s lots of info out there, but does anyone have any tips on what to do in particular / things to look out for?
[18:11] <daftykins> chrisss123456: run the live session and see if the hardware works, base your opinion from that. do you intend to dualboot with an included... windows 8 perhaps?
[18:11] <genii> chrisss123456: Apparently that system was certified with Precise, so should not be any gotchyas http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201310-14260/
[18:11] <chrisss123456> daftykins: thanks for the reply. i intend on backing up the harddrive, then scrapping windows 8 completely.
[18:12] <daftykins> chrisss123456: ah ok, it probably comes with a program to create restore media
[18:12] <chrisss123456> genii: thanks! i have read however that there are some things like the clickpad that have issues…
[18:12] <daftykins> chrisss123456: i believe i've seen one or two users come in reporting issues on T440s but annoying i can't remember what issues they were
[18:13] <chrisss123456> daftykins: cool. either that or use clonezilla. do you think its wise to wipe W8?
[18:13] <ikonia> daftykins: rock solid
[18:13] <daftykins> chrisss123456: yeah no problem at all, i'd go the recovery media route personally
[18:14] <daftykins> chrisss123456: sort of, DVD set burning type
[18:14] <chrisss123456> daftykins: ok i’ll keep that in mind. thanks. also, i know im in #ubuntu, but do you think its the best OS for everyday/scientific work purposes?
[18:15] <andi_> MonkeyDust, still the same problem
[18:15] <daftykins> chrisss123456: a friend is doing nuclear physics PhD work, he's moved to CentOS, depends what you find yourself working with i'd say
[18:16] <balintx> hi, is there anyone who can help with DNS on ubuntu server?
[18:16] <daftykins> balintx: ask the question, but also bear in mind #ubuntu-server exists too
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> andi_  there's also a security key manager, i forget the name
[18:16] <ikonia> gnone-keyring ?
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> andi_  or password manager, let me look
[18:16] <chrisss123456> daftykins: ooh ok, haven’t heard about CentOS. I’m fairly new at coding and at linux, so I think it would be best to stay with something that has a large community like ubuntu, right?
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> andi_  i guess what ikonia says
[18:18] <daftykins> chrisss123456: i would consult peers within your community, going it alone versus learning on what they know would probably be an unjustified use of time. though skills are quite transferrable between distributions, but you would end up learning multiple package managers (thing that installs software)
[18:18] <andi_> MonkeyDust, what should i do with gnome-keyring?
[18:18] <daftykins> chrisss123456: i'd recommend you check out the introductory course LFS101x @ edx.org if you're really starting from scratch :)
[18:19] <daftykins> (it's free)
[18:19] <chrisss123456> daftykins: great! thanks so much for all the help! :)
[18:19] <genii> balintx: Might want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> andi_  is there no 'show dialog' or so? i'm looking myself, moment
[18:20] <balintx> I have a master and a secondary ip address associated with my server. both are pingable from outside and reaches the server. primary ip is on eth0 and I set up secondary ip to eth0:1 . My Goal is to run a process (quasselcore) with secondary_ip as source IP. I've managed to do it this way: BIND_ADDR="secondary_ip" LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/bind.so ncat YY.YY.YYY.YY 6667 and it is working, the source ip is the secondary IP. The problem is, I can not use a
[18:20] <balintx> domain there, so my process will likely fail to work. So eth0:1 does not use the nameservers
[18:20] <balintx> I've tried to dig with LD_PRELOAD-ing the secondary ip address, the result is: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 60567
[18:21] <balintx> I have already tried to add dns-nameservers: 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 to /etc/network/interfaces without success
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> andi_  i'm mistaken, it's Seahorse, but that's not what you want or need, apologies
[18:22] <ikonia> balintx: what the devil are you talking about ???
[18:22] <ikonia> balintx: you've just said you've got a dns-server problem and then said nothing about a dns server
[18:22] <balintx> root@vps23124:~# BIND_ADDR="192.x.x.x" LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/bind.so ping google.com
[18:22] <balintx> ping: unknown host google.com
[18:23] <Babloyi> would someone be able to help me with this boot up problem?
[18:23] <getup-> hi, i'm probably asking a question that has been asked a thousand times already, but with php 5.3 going eol last week, how does that affect the 12.04 lts version? i'm reading that everything in main will be supported by ubuntu but if Ubuntu would do that I would be very impressed to be honest
[18:23] <Babloyi> I was updating to 14.04 when the power went
[18:23] <balintx> this works: root@vps23124:~# BIND_ADDR="192.x.x.x" LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/bind.so ping 173.194.121.4
[18:23] <ikonia> balintx: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[18:24] <Babloyi> and now I can't get past grub (unless I choose windows)
[18:24] <ikonia> getup-: ubuntu will support all packages for the duration of the release.
[18:24] <balintx> Linux vps23124 3.10.9-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64-vps #1 SMP Wed Aug 21 11:55:04 CEST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:24] <ikonia> balintx: that's not an ubuntu kernel
[18:24] <ikonia> balintx: that's some bastardised virtual platform, your virtual host will be able to support your install
[18:24] <getup-> ikonia: but does that mean that if any security issues are found, ubuntu will patch them even though there is no upstream support?
[18:25] <ikonia> getup-: to the best of their ability
[18:25] <daftykins> Babloyi: boot live media, execute a chroot and then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" on a wired internet connection (see !chroot for more info)
[18:25] <balintx> i think it should be a bind9 config or something like that to allow dns resolving on eth0:1
[18:25] <ikonia> getup-: ubuntu "may" update a package if there is a security issue that can't be fixed
[18:25] <balintx> dig: ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
[18:25] <ikonia> balintx: that's some bastardised virtual platform, your virtual host will be able to support your install
[18:25] <ikonia> balintx: 127 is not eth
[18:26] <ikonia> balintx: it also not a bind problem
[18:26] <balintx> it is strange because eth0 is working
[18:26] <Babloyi> actually, dafty, after a while it tells me the filesystem check or mount is failed, and goes to a maintanence shell
[18:26] <getup-> ikonia: thanks, that's what i thought, but there isn't much that specifically explains that
[18:26] <ikonia> balintx: nothing strange abou tit
[18:26] <daftykins> Babloyi: ok, regardless come back from a live session as you could investigate/fix from there too
[18:27] <Babloyi> damnit...need to find a lan cable now :D
[18:27] <balintx> so I can not force name resolution on a specific interface?
[18:27] <balintx> or /etc/network/interfaces would be the solution but it is not working
[18:27] <ikonia> balintx: that's some bastardised virtual platform, your virtual host will be able to support your install
[18:28] <balintx> could you please be more specific? this is not what I have asked
[18:28] <kuki_monster> hey, guys. I'd like to ask you something: I just installed Tor on my computer and everything goes smoothly when I open 'start-tor-browser' but when I type in the terminal 'tor' it gives me an error:
[18:28] <ikonia> balintx: that is not a true ubuntu install
[18:28] <ikonia> balintx: so your hosting provider can support their modified install
[18:29] <balintx> I see
[18:29] <odisa> kuki_monster, please post the error in a paste
[18:29] <kuki_monster> Aug 18 11:25:18.224 [notice] Tor v0.2.4.23 (git-19f0f189116dba73) running on Linux with Libevent 2.0.21-stable and OpenSSL 1.0.1f. Aug 18 11:25:18.224 [notice] Tor can't help you if you use it wrong! Learn how to be safe at https://www.torproject.org/download/download#warning Aug 18 11:25:18.224 [notice] Read configuration file "/etc/tor/torrc". Aug 18 11:25:18.232 [notice] Opening Socks listener on 127.0.0.1:9050 Aug 18 11:25:
[18:29] <ikonia> kuki_monster: please don't spam junk
[18:29] <odisa> kuki_monster, you're not supposed to run tor as root. are you doing that?
[18:29] <kuki_monster> ikonia, sorry about that
[18:29] <kuki_monster> odisa, i'm not running it as root
[18:29] <avallark> hello all :)
[18:30] <avallark> when i do a dmesg | grep -i kbd, i get three keyboards.. 1 atkbd0, uskbd0 and uskbd1
[18:30] <source47> hi there. anyone has some experience with lxc here?
[18:30] <avallark> I have only one keyboard (a usb keyboard) plugged in.
[18:30] <Ririshi> :(
[18:31] <avallark> is there a way i can remove one of these keyboards from teh system ?
[18:31] <kuki_monster> i just opened the terminal, typed down the 'tor' command and it gave me the error that i posted
[18:31] <ikonia> kuki_monster: I don't see an error
[18:32] <kuki_monster> ikonia, here it is: http://pastebin.com/WHYMJkyV
[18:32] <odisa> kuki_monster, I've always just used ./start-tor-browser
[18:32] <ikonia> kuki_monster: it's already running
[18:32] <ikonia> kuki_monster: so you can't bind to the port
[18:33] <odisa> do "killall tor" and then try again
[18:33] <odisa> also, depending on your version, do "killall vidalia"
[18:33] <r4f3> ubuntu
[18:33] <r4f3> hello
[18:34] <r4f3> what is the comand, .. i want see what is my machine, spesification
[18:34] <OerHeks> r4f3, open terminal: lshw
[18:35] <odisa> lspci to check hardware
[18:35] <odisa> or PCI rather I think
[18:35] <odisa> not sure tbh
[18:35] <r4f3> i want put here
[18:36] <OerHeks> "lshw -short "is much more readable
[18:36] <OerHeks> r4f3, use paste.ubuntu.com please
[18:36] <kuki_monster> odisa, I just tried 'killall vidalia'. I made progress. It said 'Aug 18 11:33:47.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100%: Done.' but the browser didn't open
[18:36] <r4f3> :/
[18:36] <r4f3> ok
[18:36] <r4f3> thanks
[18:37] <source47> anyone here?
[18:37] <ikonia> many people
[18:37] <source47> anyone who uses lxc?
[18:37] <ikonia> a few people
[18:37] <source47> well mainly i am getting the error here - https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/297
[18:37] <kuki_monster> odisa, oops, I meant to say 'killall tor'
[18:38] <source47> so this happens after i restart the server after installing lxc
[18:38] <odisa> kuki_monster, try "killall tor && killall vidalia && tor -v" (presuming it has a verbose function, let me check)
[18:39] <dashrem> Downloading Ubuntu...
[18:39] <odisa> kuki_monster, did you install tor from the command line?
[18:39] <odisa> or via their website?
[18:40] <odisa> I'm assuming the former, seeing as there's no tor command for me, and I used the download from their website
[18:41] <kuki_monster> odisa, I first followed the steps from: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[18:41] <kuki_monster> after that I download the tar file and extracted it in the Home directory
[18:41] <source47> so guessing nobody knows what its about...
[18:42] <ikonia> source47: error seems pretty clear
[18:42] <source47> ok. so what do u suggest to fix it ikonia?
[18:42] <odisa> kuki_monster, all of the steps? you might want to do a clean install
[18:42] <ikonia> source47: I'd look at why the cgroup namespace is not available
[18:42] <kuki_monster> odisa, all of the steps, yeah
[18:42] <source47> well thats why i came here to find out... :(
[18:43] <ikonia> source47: what have you done so far to check why it's not available ?
[18:43] <source47> what can i check ikonia?
[18:43] <odisa> kuki_monster, you might have conflicting installs? best thing would be to just do a fresh install
[18:43] <source47> it also says  Kernel configuration not found at /proc/config.gz; searching... Kernel configuration found at /boot/config-3.13.0-29-generic
[18:43] <source47> before that
[18:43] <odisa> by following this https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[18:43] <source47> i have googled it sofar
[18:43] <ikonia> source47: what have you done so far ?
[18:44] <source47> found a few posts
[18:44] <odisa> kuki_monster, "sudo apt-get purge tor" tor remove it
[18:44] <odisa> to remove it*
[18:44] <source47> where it started working for people after reinstalling lxc
[18:44] <source47> but it didnt work for me
[18:44] <ikonia> re-installing will do nothing
[18:44] <source47> exactly
[18:44] <odisa> and also delete what you extracted in your home folder. then follow the link I posted, download the appropriate version for your architecture
[18:44] <x_root> eeee, jus tested the command (sudo dconf reset..) and.. didn't work =/
[18:45] <x_root> but thanks, gotta use gnome again for a while then i'll see what is happening (possible to open a log?)
[18:45] <source47> why is my file not found cat /proc/config.gz
[18:45] <ikonia> source47: that file is worthless
[18:45] <source47> ok
[18:45] <source47> so its cgroup namespace
[18:45] <odisa> please ban BUTS`EEK` from the chan.. he's PMing me with some kind of racial slur and banter about certain bodily fluids
[18:46] <source47> what do u suggest i do to find out how to fix this?
[18:46] <kuki_monster> odisa, me too
[18:46] <ikonia> odisa: please join #ubuntu-ops
[18:46] <odisa> ikonia, will do
[18:46] <Xodus989> Anyone know if issues with dual screens in 14.04 lts?  I'm using the xserver-xorg driver and it detects the display and proper resolution automatically, an d allow me to enable it. It enables and I can move my mouse and windows over like its working fine. But the monitor isn't "waking up", but staying in standby mode
[18:46] <Xodus989> I've tried with the propietary drivers too.
[18:46] <ikonia> source47: check your control group
[18:46] <source47> how?
[18:47] <ikonia> source47: I suggest you read the lxc docs
[18:47] <kuki_monster> odisa, I also added a line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <kuki_monster> it's 'deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org trusty main'
[18:47] <daftykins> Xodus989: 'xserver-xorg' isn't a specific video driver. check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log or pastebin it here for assistance (not to me though, i'm just leaving)
[18:47] <kuki_monster> should I remove that line too?
[18:47] <Xodus989> Okay
[18:48] <Xodus989> @All - Here's that log - http://pastebin.com/t2XJq47y
[18:49] <odisa> kuki_monster, not sure.. I don't think so; all it does is make it available for install I think
[18:49] <knightshade> hi
[18:50] <source47> sorry ikonia
[18:50] <ikonia> no need for sorry
[18:50] <source47> thought it meant ops as in devops :-)
[18:51] <balintx> ikonia: if you are interested, i've managed to solve the problem
[18:51] <balintx> I had to add the secondary IP to "allow-recursion" clause in named.conf.options
[18:51] <balintx> thanks for the help btw
[18:52] <odisa> so where do I go for support on Ubuntu server version newer that 10.04?
[18:52] <ikonia> odisa: here
[18:53] <odisa> ohh, so only the server version of 10.04 is supported is what the title means?
[18:53] <ikonia> odisa: no
[18:53] <ikonia> odisa: please check /topic
[18:54] <source47> ikonia: root@ip-172-31-23-17:~# ls /sys/fs/cgroup cgmanager  memory.use_hierarchy  systemd
[18:54] <source47> is that what u meant?
[18:54] <source47> theres no lxc folder there
[18:54] <odisa> right.. but it says 10.04 LTS (server), but nothing about other server versions
[18:54] <kuki_monster> odisa, I tried what you suggested. I still get the same error
[18:54] <ikonia> source47: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[18:54] <source47> 14.04
[18:54] <kuki_monster> it works perfectly when I start the browser from 'start-tor-browser'
[18:54] <ikonia> source47: show me the output of uname -a please
[18:54] <odisa> kuki_monster, you installed it by extracting the tar.xz you downloaded from that page?
[18:55] <kuki_monster> but when I try to open it from the 'tor' command I get the same error
[18:55] <kuki_monster> yeah
[18:55] <odisa> if you purged tor, it shouldn't even be possible to use the tor command
[18:55] <webfox> Hello guys!
[18:55] <kuki_monster> odisa, I extracted the file.
[18:55] <source47> Linux ip-172-31-23-17 3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 4 21:00:20 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:55] <kuki_monster> After that I tried the 'tor' command
[18:55] <kuki_monster> it said that the computer can't find it
[18:56] <webfox> I am trying to obtain the language-pack from Brazilian portuguese. Could someone help me figure that please?
[18:56] <kuki_monster> I installed it from 'sudo apt-get install tor'
[18:56] <ikonia> source47: odd config for systemd
[18:56] <odisa> kuki_monster, don't install it that way
[18:56] <ikonia> source47: nothing that would stop it working
[18:56] <source47> odd config?
[18:56] <ikonia> source47: don't worry
[18:56] <odisa> run "sudo apt-get purge tor" again to remove it
[18:56] <TJ-> kuki_monster: what does "hash -t tor" report?
[18:56] <odisa> then you want to go to your .bash_aliases and add a command yourself
[18:57] <source47> its from AMI standard ubuntu image for hvm
[18:57] <webfox> I think apt-get install language-pack-pt is Portuguese but not the Brazilian version.
[18:57] <kuki_monster> TJ, 'bash: hash: tor: not found'
[18:58] <bipul> ikonia: hello
[18:58] <TJ-> kuki_monster: OK, that's good; not caught up in the path cache
[18:58] <bipul> ikonia: pm
[18:59] <ikonia> bipul: ok ?
[19:00] <Geo> Hi, can anyone assist me with my ip route table? I have a .10.x NIC, and a .20.x NIC, with respective gateways of .10.1 and .20.1 . It seems I can either ping .10.x -> .20.1, or .10.x -> .10.1, but not both
[19:00] <odisa> kuki_monster, if you run "sudo apt-get purge tor && cd / && sudo nano .bash_aliases" , that would remove the tor you installed with apt-get and open up a new file in which you can add new commands
[19:00] <Geo> what should that route table look like?
[19:00] <odisa> oh hold on..
[19:00] <odisa> that is wrong
[19:00] <kuki_monster> ok
[19:00] <odisa> sorry!
[19:00] <kuki_monster> so far i have only purged tor
[19:01] <odisa> ok, just run "cd" now
[19:01] <odisa> then "sudo nano .bash_aliases"
[19:02] <kuki_monster> regarding the 'cd' command: where should I go with it? In the directory where tor is extracted?
[19:02] <TJ-> webfox: language-pack-pt{,-base} contain the translations for pt and pt_BR
[19:02] <odisa> then add a line: alias tor='sh path/to/start-tor-browser'
[19:02] <pbx> kuki_monster, 'cd' with no arguments takes you to your home dir
[19:02] <odisa> kuki_monster, no, cd brings you to your home directory, where you need to be for this
[19:03] <odisa> can someone confirm 'sh start-tor-browser' would be the same as ./start-tor-browser? I think it is, but not sure
[19:03] <sere> is there a quizlet app for ubuntu?
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> sere  use apt-cache search quiz to find out
[19:04] <OerHeks> odisa only if the file is executable +x
[19:04] <odisa> OerHeks, ok, it should work then
[19:04] <sere> MonkeyDust: already did.. thought maybe there is a third party ppa somewhere
[19:05] <odisa> thanks. so kuki_monster, once you add that line, hit Ctrl+ O (that's an o, not a 0), then Ctrl + X
[19:05] <webfox> TJ-: Is there a way to set my system to run at english?
[19:05] <odisa> then exit out the terminal, start a new terminal, and run tor
[19:06] <Blenda> is there a way a command line is launched at each boot, here "xsetwacom"
[19:06] <mjuszczak> What's the channel that discusses debian packaging?
[19:06] <schtinky> Lately, whenever I do a system update and restart, my Unity look and feel changes. The window decorations and text are slightly different each time. Does anyone know what's going on? (14.04)
[19:07] <Beldar> schtinky, Have you modified it?
[19:07] <schtinky> Maybe "window decorations" is the wrong term. I mean the look of the buttons and checkboxes and pull-down menus
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> Blenda  i think the hidden file ~/.profile ... but make a copy first, before you change it
[19:07] <schtinky> beldar, not at all
[19:08] <Blenda> thx MonkeyDust
[19:08] <schtinky> like the text in eclipse changes size, too
[19:09] <kuki_monster> hmm, it still says it can't find anything
[19:09] <kuki_monster> bummer
[19:09] <TJ-> webfox: Yes, set the Locale
[19:10] <TJ-> webfox: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[19:10] <odisa> kuki_monster, what's the exact output when you run tor now?
[19:10] <Slart> schtinky: font rendering settings perhaps?
[19:11] <Slart> schtinky: those changed for me, in gnome, when I installed KDE.. something system wide
[19:11] <kuki_monster> the same as before:
[19:11] <odisa> kuki_monster, after saving the .bash_aliases file, you need tor restart the terminal for it to take effect
[19:11] <kuki_monster> The program 'tor' is currently not installed.
[19:11] <kuki_monster> You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install tor
[19:11] <schtinky> slart... yeah that's a good point. I think I removed some KDE packages yesterday
[19:11] <kuki_monster> nope, still nothing
[19:12] <kuki_monster> restarted it. no luck
[19:12] <odisa> oh maybe it's conflicting.. try changing the .bash_aliases file to something like "alias oniontor"
[19:12] <webfox> TJ-: having a look, thank you!
[19:12] <odisa> instead of tor
[19:12] <Geo> How would I go about forcing all traffic to go to the router, even for stuff on the local subnet?
[19:12] <Slart> schtinky: it's just a wild wild guess.. but those things can give you that "everything is a little wrong"-feeling
[19:13] <kuki_monster> I guess i'll just open the browser from the directory where I extracted it to
[19:13] <TJ-> Geo: remove the local subnet from the routing table, but keep the rule targeting the gateway
[19:13] <odisa> kuki_monster, that's about exactly what this method would do, except it adds an alias to the terminal to execute that
[19:13] <Geo> thats what I thought
[19:14] <odisa> kuki_monster, it's probably because "tor" conflicts with the apt-get package name, therefore if you change "tor" to whatever else in the .bash_aliases file, it should work
[19:16] <kuki_monster> odisa, right now i'll open the browser the old-fashioned way. I'll play with it a bit later. Thanks for helping me out. Later i'll see why i can't add an alias successfully.
[19:16] <odisa> so your .bash_aliases should look like: alias customname='sh ~/Downloads/tor-browser_en-US/start-tor-browser'
[19:17] <odisa> kuki_monster, sure thing
[19:19] <odisa> kuki_monster, it works fine for me..
[19:22] <caerostris> Hey guys, I've just noticed something with my ssh-agent that seems strange to me. I just tried logging in to an ssh server with my private key. When I was prompted to enter the password to decrypt the key, I hit escape. Still, as second later, I was logged in. From what I understand, that should not happen, right?
[19:23] <kuki_monster> odisa, I forgot to mention something
[19:23] <pbx> caerostris, perhaps you have another key (not passphrase protected) that it fell back to ?
[19:24] <kuki_monster> ever since I added the 'alias tor='sh path/to/start-tor-browser' line i've been getting an error
[19:24] <kuki_monster> when i open the terminal
[19:24] <kuki_monster> it's more like a warning:
[19:25] <kuki_monster> bash: /home/pretodor/.bash_aliases: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `
[19:25] <kuki_monster> '' bash: /home/pretodor/.bash_aliases: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[19:26] <wrongplace> if I rename an external HDD (gparted), will there be loss of data?
[19:26] <odisa> kuki_monster, hmm.. it's not loading the alias then
[19:26] <odisa> can you paste the exact contents of your .bash_aliases file kuki_monster ?
[19:26] <Beldar> wrongplace, Should not effect data.
[19:26] <abado> renaming an external HDD doesn't cause data lose
[19:26] <abado> *loss
[19:26] <webfox> I am facing this error message when I try to install mysql at ubuntu-server : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5567d3437509981a018b
[19:27] <webfox> Could someone help me figure out how to solve it please?
[19:27] <caerostris> pbx, you're right! I should have thought of that. I have no idea why, but there was a second key in authorized_keys and removing it did the trick. I only have one key so that's strange... Thanks a lot anyways!
[19:28] <wrongplace> thanks
[19:29] <kuki_monster> unfortunaly, I won't have time to do it right now. I'll get back to it later. at least I know now what to fix.
[19:32] <danielbw> test
[19:32] <m100> danielbw: I have recievd your test.
[19:34] <webfox> Hello?
[19:34] <webfox> Could someone help me figure out how to solve it please?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> webfox  there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:34] <cmanns> What is the tool to install ubuntu from inside Windows
[19:35] <Beldar> cmanns, Wubi and not supported.
[19:35] <cmanns> Is it older? I used something like Wubi pretty sure to install xUbuntu onto my netbook. I wanted to do that on my friends p4 2.2 ghz dell that sucks at windows xp so I dont need newest ubuntu OS
[19:35] <eeee> cmanns: install into another partition, or use a VM
[19:36] <odisa> You could use a VM I suppose
[19:36] <eeee> cmanns: wubi was discontinued i think, it's a bad idea
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> cmanns  installing it is easy, using and upgrading it is not and will give you pain
[19:36] <Beldar> cmanns, Not a good install method, use a virtual or dual boot it.
[19:36] <cmanns> thats fine we’d want to stay on older system
[19:36] <cmanns> I need to install this via remote desktop not CDs
[19:37] <cmanns> wouldnt we want to stay on older version due to such old computer?
[19:37] <Beldar> that is just asking for trouble in so many ways cmanns
[19:37] <cmanns> I think I’d want to be on 10.x
[19:37] <cmanns> since system can barely handle XP
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> cmanns  better don't do it
[19:37] <eeee> cmanns: just use a light de
[19:37] <eeee> i guess
[19:37] <Beldar> cmanns, Only supported is 12.04 and 14.04 dual boot lubuntu.
[19:37] <cmanns> light de?
[19:38] <cmanns> Whats lubuntu
[19:38] <cmanns> lxde?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> cmanns  or a light distro
[19:38] <expunge> Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of GNOME/Unity
[19:38] <expunge> LXDE being "lighter"
[19:38] <eeee> cmanns: light desktop environment, lubuntu would be good, it's very light and tailored for low perf pc's
[19:38] <cmanns> Ah nice though I prefer XFCE is LXDE supported better with the ubuntu GUI tools?
[19:38] <Beldar> cmanns, Ote we use nicks to communicate here.
[19:38] <Beldar> Note*
[19:38] <expunge> by default it looks a little more like Windows XP, compared to GNOME/Unity, which more resembles Mac OS 10
[19:39] <cmanns> Okay and what would be best install method if I need to do it remotely (person is 300 miles away from me)
[19:39] <expunge> cmanns: I'd say they're about the same, except that Xfce has more
[19:39] <cmanns> I think I’d want 12.04 for their system
[19:39] <OerHeks> nice overview of ubuntu desktops, http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ heaviest on top, low specs @ bottom
[19:39] <expunge> cmanns: 12.04 is pretty old
[19:39] <odisa> Would VNC be appropriate for such a remote install?
[19:39] <ikonia> 12.04 is fine
[19:40] <expunge> cmanns: you don't think this person could install it with your help over the phone?
[19:40] <cmanns> mkay I’ll go with 12.04
[19:40]  * Beldar loves a methodology with failure stamped all over it
[19:40] <odisa> unless you can install it via the terminal, then SSH should suffice I guess
[19:40] <cmanns> They could we’re on skype atm but not sure if they have any burnable media
[19:40] <eeee> cmanns: i've noticed 14.04 is quicker on my pc's the only advantage i can think of is that 12.04 has unity 2d, i think, but you'd be using lxde anyways
[19:40] <cmanns> Yeah Ill be on LX, and nice glad to hear 12.04 works good
[19:40] <ids> hi
[19:40] <eeee> (i mean in the vms and when i upgraded)
[19:41] <cmanns> ah I see
[19:41] <ids> I'm trying to get SPDIF to work, it shows up in alsamixer, but no sound :(
[19:42] <DJ_U|Laptop> quick question.  What is the best way to avoid driver conflict when swapping/replacing GPU's.  Both old and new are nVidia chipsets
[19:43] <ikonia> why would there be a conflict ?
[19:43] <cmanns> there wouldnt be
[19:43] <DJ_U|Laptop> I'm not sure, I'm wondering just in case though.  My new GPU should be here tomorrow.
[19:43] <ikonia> DJ_U|Laptop: just put the card in and see what happens
[19:44] <smitzer> what is the standard "paint" program in ubuntu?
[19:44] <smittix> smitzer: There isn't one. You'd have to install GIMP
[19:45] <DJ_U|Laptop> If anything, there might be a newer driver.  I'm going from a recently dead 8800 GTS to a GT 210
[19:45] <expunge> smitzer: probably gimp, yeah
[19:45] <DJ_U|Laptop> Guess I could just throw it in there and see what happens and go from there.  :)
[19:47] <Nordom> Hello, I am trying to compile xen on ubuntu, and the guide I am following is for debian. The command they give me is ./configure && make -j4 world && make -j4 deb  but if I have -j4 added it wont properly make or create the deb. What command should I do to make it do config then make word and the put the results into a deb?
[19:50] <trism> Nordom: the -j4 just tells make to use multiple processes, occasionally that breaks things, there's not harm in omitting it, other than perhaps a slower build
[19:51] <Nordom> trism: thanks
[19:51] <Nordom> trism: so I should leave  && make deb at the end?
[19:52] <linman32> hi. i am using ubuntu and in the lock screen it is not asking for the password. so i can't log in
[19:52] <linman32> this happens after every ~10 screen locks or so
[19:52] <Nordom> linman32: can you log out?
[19:52] <odisa> I'm following this server security guide: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics , and at step 4 is about limiting the use of su to admin only. But if root is the only account I want to use on the server, can I simply disable the root password and add root to where it says <YOUR ADMIN USERNAME> ?
[19:52] <linman32> Nordom: yes, i think so.
[19:53] <Nordom> linman32: try logging out, it maye fix it
[19:53] <linman32> Nordom: oh, no i don't think i can. sometimes when lock screen one of the monitors will not ask for password, but other will
[19:53] <trism> Nordom: hard to say without knowing what you are building, but if those are the commands from some guide and the -j option is the only thing messing up your build, then yes
[19:54] <Nordom> can you do ctrl + alt + f2 to bring up terminal
[19:54] <linman32> Nordom: that is when i can't access applications. can't shutdown either. so a few things break
[19:54] <Nordom> trism: thanks, I am compiling now. Hopefully that -j was my problem =)
[19:55] <Nordom> linman32: if u can pop up terminal 'killall -u  [username] gnome-session'  may help
[19:56] <bipul> [01:25] <bipul> Is it possible to install 32 bit and 64 bit of packages?
[19:56] <bipul> Is it possible to install 32 bit and 64 bit of packages?
[19:57] <Noskcaj> !multiarch | bipul
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> bipul  you mean 32bit and 64bit versions of the same?
[19:57] <bipul> Yes
[19:57] <Noskcaj> bipul, Yes, with a thing called multiarch
[19:57] <expunge> MonkeyDust: don't cross post
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> expunge  ?
[19:58] <expunge> sorry, bipul: don't cross post =)
[19:58] <bipul> Noskcaj:  Thank you
[19:59] <linman32> Nordom: lol i had to restart computer b/c i didn't know how to get out of alt+ctrl+f2
[20:02] <rsids> I'm trying to get SPDIF to work, it shows up in alsamixer, but no sound :(
[20:02] <linman32> Nordom: had to restart computer b/c i didn't know how to get out of alt+ctrl+f2
[20:03] <vlt> linman32: Out => Alt+F7
[20:08] <pbx> when i call something up via the Dash, is there a "show this item in Files" option anywhere?
[20:08] <pbx> i can do it in gnome-do using "open with" -> Files
[20:09] <pbx> so i guess that's good enough
[20:09] <zz> Hello, I am new and i would really like some help with installing ubuntu, please.
[20:09] <ticktockhouse> Hello  :)
[20:09] <pbx> zz, say what you've tried and what happened, or what your specific concerns/challenges are
[20:09] <zz> Every single distro I have tried to install fails and gives me a black screen.
[20:09] <ticktockhouse> I have quite a specific ubunti install problem, not sure how to get round it
[20:09] <expunge> neat
[20:09] <ticktockhouse> I installed from USB using unetbootin
[20:10] <zz> Boot from usb , it shows the ubuntu purple screen for a bit, then goes to a black screen with a white _ at the top left. it freezes then i cant restart have to hold power button down
[20:11] <ticktockhouse> When it's finished installing, it boots into the 3.5.0-17 kernel, but the lib/modules directory is for 3.13.0.32
[20:11] <pbx> zz, what hardware?  what installer? what version of ubuntu?
[20:11] <ticktockhouse> So, cos I've got no modules, I've got no network, mouse, etc.
[20:11] <zz> its every single ver of any linux ive ever tried, has failed
[20:11] <expunge> zz: try the 'minimalcd' install image
[20:11] <zz> -_-
[20:12] <zz> ive tried that
[20:12] <eeee> zz: what's the pc specs? uefi?
[20:12] <expunge> zz: and?
[20:12] <zz> Nothing works, not Tiny linux, nothing
[20:12] <ticktockhouse> a) why did it boot into that kernel in the 1st place b) how do I tell it to use the 3.13.xxx kernel?
[20:12] <zz> i am typing my specs now
[20:12] <expunge> zz: nothing works is no kind of description
[20:12] <ticktockhouse> Tried "update-grub"
[20:12] <expunge> zz: what happened with the minimalcd image
[20:12] <zz> first , i only have usb , not cd
[20:13] <eeee> zz: do you have secureboot enabled?
[20:13] <zz> but i have installed minimal ubuntu before and it doesnt work
[20:13] <thomb> Hi all. I currently installed ubuntu and I try to enable "paste" by clicking the middle mouse button (wheel in my case) of my logitech m305 ... as far as I could find out, copy selected text already works and the mouse wheel is able to scroll as well. But how can I activate "paste"?
[20:13] <Fetus_> hey guys
[20:13] <zz> my hardware is , asrock h77 pro 4mvp , i7 3770k , r9 280x sapphire vapor, no soundcards
[20:14] <zz> eeee , i have seen that setting in bios before and toggled it but it hasnt affected this problem , idk what else to do ive searched for so many times, been to this irc a few times also
[20:15] <zz> guessing this problem isnt too common lol
[20:16] <bprompt> zz:      at the purple screen.. there are a few "boot options" by pressing F6.... you could turn a few of those.... and I think there are a few more at F5 menu too
[20:16] <bprompt> zz:    it may just be hardware compatibility with the drivers the .iso is trying to load
[20:16] <zz> so what should i do bprompt?
[20:16] <zz> i really want to run ubuntu
[20:17] <eeee> zz: the minimal install, how'd you run it?
[20:17] <zz> i think the purple screen did appear but then quickly went away being replaced with that blackness
[20:17] <expunge> so you don't remember
[20:17] <bprompt> zz:     try those "boot options",   also remove the "quiet splash"  arguments from the boot, so you can actually see the loading progress and any errors
[20:17] <zz> ah il go and do minimal install and i will also look again and then come back
[20:17] <zz> ok thanks =/
[20:18] <bipul> Ok does ubuntu uses PAM authentication ?
[20:19] <crunchy_> lol
[20:19] <expunge> bipul: pretty sure
[20:20] <crunchy_> yo Fetus_
[20:20] <dinesh___> hey all, I'm trying to prevent the ssh server from starting at startup, so I've googled and found "sudo update-rc.d -f sshd remove", which doesn't fail, but also doesn't do the job, any idea?
[20:21] <dinesh___> running it outputs Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/sshd ...
[20:21] <bipul> expunge: One of mine friend has issue in disable "SMB password synchronization" inside PAM
[20:21] <Pici> dinesh___: its 'ssh' not 'sshd'
[20:22] <ianorlin> dinesh are you talking about the server?
[20:22] <dinesh___> thanks, I'll try that. yes I installed the server on ubuntu desktop with apt-get install openssh-server
[20:22] <ianorlin> dinesh are you saying you want openssh-server installed but not as a service on startup but only started manually
[20:24] <dinesh___> exactly ianorlin
[20:25] <theadmin> dinesh___: Mess around in /etc/init, there should be a .conf file for openssh
[20:25] <Fetus_> yo
[20:25] <theadmin> dinesh___: It should have a line like "start on [2345]", remove that and replace it with "manual"
[20:31] <waykool99> in studio v14.04.4 LTS 64 bit.  In window menus, how do you force underline the Ctrl F for 'File"?  Noticed in only underlines on left Alt key.
[20:32] <MikeWorth> 21:31:17 - MikeWorth: Hi, I'm facing a problem with character sets on a vfat volume. I am trying to delete some files with special characters in their names but get IO errors every time.
[20:33] <theadmin> MikeWorth: Mount the volume with the appropriate charset first.
[20:34] <waykool99> Rephrase:  How do you change top-left Menu items to have a letter underlined, example: Alt F = File, Alt V = View?
[20:34] <MikeWorth> theadmin: I'm not sure what the correct charset is, is there a list of common ones somewhere that I can try?
[20:34] <theadmin> MikeWorth: What country are you in?
[20:34] <MikeWorth> uk
[20:35] <MikeWorth> one of the special characters is umlouts in "motorhead"
[20:35] <theadmin> MikeWorth: mount /dev/sdb1 /media/vfat_drive -o iocharset=utf8,codepage=866 should work.
[20:37] <MikeWorth> hmm, it seems to have recognised the ö properly, but all the files inside appear as gibberish and it hits io errors
[20:37] <MikeWorth> for example:
[20:37] <MikeWorth> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/archos/.Trash-1000/files/M/Motörhead/   \177 \177  .√≤ ': Input/output error
[20:38] <ianorlin> wait is it mounted in /tmp
[20:39] <MikeWorth> is it possible in some way to remove the directory from the file table and therefore automatically delete everything in that directory without having to refer to the files themselves?
[20:39] <MikeWorth> yes, does that make any difference?
[20:39] <zz> hello, if anyone is still here that was here when i had trouble installing
[20:39] <eeee> zz yeah
[20:40] <zz> i did the minimal install like requested, and i got to the point where it is "detecting other hardware" , it stays at 0 and then it freezes
[20:40] <zz> also , when i do the minimal install, theres no mouse to move just keyboard
[20:40] <ticktockhouse> Did anyone have any thoughts on the wrong kernel after install thing?
[20:40] <theadmin> zz: The minimal install is text-based
[20:40] <ianorlin> MikeWorth /tmp has bit set so you are not supposed to delete thing from it as anoyne can write to it
[20:40] <zz> oh cool.
[20:40] <theadmin> zz: No mouse or graphics
[20:40] <expunge> zz: how long was it frozen?
[20:40] <zz> its frozen , and i cannot press reset button , have to hold down power lol, like a perm freeze
[20:41] <MikeWorth> ianorlin: ah, I'd never heard of that; I just assumed that permissions prevented people from nuking each others stuff
[20:41] <zz> i remembered this happened the other times i tried to install in the past, this is as far as i can get
[20:41] <expunge> zz: what other live images have you tried?
[20:41] <zz> is it because my hdd is uefi or something maybe?
[20:42] <zz> ive tried linux mint, ive tried tiny linux, ive tried a few otheres from the universal usb installer also
[20:42] <zz> kubuntu, xubuntu
[20:42] <MikeWorth> mounting it inside my home doesn't seem to change things
[20:42] <expunge> well 'tiny linux' doesn't sound like something full of drivers
[20:43] <expunge> zz: the ordinary, non minimalcd image, it froze as well?
[20:43] <zz> yes
[20:43] <expunge> zz: at what point?
[20:43] <zz> the normal install freezes as soon as it starts up , because it must auto detect hardware i guess
[20:44] <expunge> zz: so before the installer proper starts?
[20:44] <zz> yep
[20:45] <zz> the full installer goes to a black screen with a white _ at the top which is frozen, and then i have to hold power button
[20:45] <expunge> okay
[20:46] <expunge> zz: you might try booting up http://sysresccd.org/ and seeing if you can 'startx', see if it "works"
[20:46] <expunge> zz: if it does, you can concievably install with debootstrap or the like
[20:48] <rsids> I'm trying to get SPDIF to work, it shows up in alsamixer, but no sound :(
[20:48] <zz> ah i dont think i will thanks anyway, i dont want to screw up my current windows partition
[20:49] <rsids> anyone any ideas?
[20:50] <MikeWorth> It looks like special characters aren't actually the problem, ls -l gives me a load of ?s:
[20:51] <MikeWorth> ls: cannot access tmp/.Trash-1000/files/M/Motörhead/      .√є : Input/output error
[20:51] <MikeWorth> d????????? ? ? ? ?            ? ╛w}  s  .   
[20:52] <wrongplace> when buying new hardware, how long do you keep the original packaging?
[20:52] <cmanns> MikeWorth: sudo ls /tmp
[20:52] <estan> hi folks. i don't understand how i'm supposed to use qtchooser (this is on Precise, ancient i know but it's on Travic CI so i have no choice).
[20:52] <kostkon> wrongplace, keep it for 2y if you can
[20:53] <wrongplace> 2y =?
[20:53] <estan> using using the qt4 + qt5 packages from Ubuntu SDK PPA; and i'm wondering how i switch between the versions.
[20:53] <kostkon> wrongplace, 2 years?
[20:53] <cmanns> I keep the original packaging for a slong as I need
[20:53] <MikeWorth> cmanns: I've remounted it to ~/tmp, heres sudo ls tmp:
[20:53] <MikeWorth> DATA  MUSIC  PICTURES  RECORD  SOFTWARE  VIDEO
[20:53] <k1l_> wrongplace: that topic suits better into #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <estan> i've tried qtchooser -qt=4 before i run qmake, and also qmake -qt=qt4 and qmake -qt=4, but neither seem to work.
[20:53] <cmanns> as an IT provider/web hosting provider we keep for maybe 1-2 years
[20:55] <MikeWorth> the problem files are in .Trash-1000, things look normal up to:
[20:55] <MikeWorth> $ sudo ls -l tmp/.Trash-1000/files/M
[20:55] <MikeWorth> total 8
[20:55] <MikeWorth> drwx------  3 mike mike 4096 Aug 18 21:04 Metallica
[20:55] <MikeWorth> drwx------ 10 mike mike 4096 Aug 18 21:48 Motörhead
[20:55] <pbx> how do i get Terminal to see the alt key and keep it from pulling up the menu-shortcut feature?
[21:00] <cmanns> So I got my friend lubuntu installed
[21:00] <expunge> cmanns: well done
[21:01] <cmanns> Yeah, almost equally as slow as Windows so far over skype view but I need to remote in and ensure drivers are there
[21:01] <expunge> mmmhmmm
[21:01] <axsuul> Is it possible to upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 from 12.10 since the sources.list don't seem to be working? Trying to install update-manager-core but throws error due to 404 from the sources
[21:02] <cmanns> update sources file?
[21:02] <cmanns> I’m installing lubuntu 12.04 right now or 12.10 forget which, i can tell you the sources.list maybe
[21:02] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[21:02] <axsuul> cmanns: does 12.10 even have sources?
[21:02] <cmanns> No idea mate
[21:02] <OerHeks> axsuul, follow that link, add old-releases to your sources and you might be able to upgrade
[21:03] <MikeWorth> Ok guys, thanks for the help. I'm going to bed
[21:08] <Crush___> hi
[21:08] <Crush___> can someone help me please regarding some hardware I think
[21:08] <flamedoge> what hardware
[21:09] <Crush___> I did a apt-get update and I use TBS 6991 tv cards
[21:09] <Crush___> they ahve been working perfecgly however now they are saying
[21:09] <Crush___> DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 9750000 out of range for all adapters
[21:10] <Crush___> is it possible to rollback the updates I did today?
[21:15] <axsuul> Is there an API endpoint I can access that tells me if a certain codename is EOL or not?
[21:17] <theadmin> axsuul: I dunno about an API endpoint, but the "ubuntu-support-status" program will give you a detailed report on support status of the machine it ran on, if that's of any help.
[21:19] <OerHeks> theadmin +1
[21:19] <MagicSpud> good night
[21:19] <MagicSpud> I am trying to get rid of ubuntu one in ubuntu 12.04
[21:19] <PeterCassetta> Hi, can anyone help me with this? For some reason the new unity lockscreen from ubuntu 14.04 seems to have been replaced by the one from 13.10 and earlier
[21:19] <MagicSpud> would anybody help?
[21:19] <MagicSpud> how do I uninstall it?
[21:20] <theadmin> MagicSpud: sudo apt-get purge ubuntuone-*
[21:20] <MagicSpud> sorry Peter I never used 13.10
[21:20] <OerHeks> MagicSpud,  sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntuone-client
[21:21] <Crush___> can I rollback my ubuntu  kernal / firmware?
[21:21] <theadmin> Crush___: You can install any kernel version you like via apt.
[21:21] <MagicSpud> theadmin thanks
[21:21] <Crush___> thanks theadmin
[21:21] <viktor> can anyone tell me how to make my computer login automatically (ubuntu 14.04)? pls
[21:21] <theadmin> ...well, not any, but shall I say, a large amount thereof.
[21:22] <Crush___> I've installed new today and broken my system, as I found out what I had and restore back?
[21:22] <theadmin> viktor: System Settings -> Users and Groups -> select your user and enable automatic login.
[21:22] <fatlard3413> theadmin knows all
[21:22] <OerHeks> Crush___, if you build the driver for your tv card, build it again ?
[21:22] <theadmin> fatlard3413: Hardly
[21:22] <Crush___> ok will try thank you
[21:22] <viktor> theadmin, that doesn't work in 14.04 anymore...
[21:23] <theadmin> viktor: Hm, I haven't used 14.04 but I'm sure there's a similar option
[21:23] <OerHeks> viktor, if users-groups is missing, install "  gnome-system-tools " package
[21:23] <theadmin> viktor: The option is still there...
[21:23] <theadmin> viktor: Is your home folder encrypted?
[21:23] <fatlard3413> anybody have any experience with the alfa awus036h usb adapter or just the RTL8187 chipset in general?
[21:24] <theadmin> viktor: If so, automatic login is not possible
[21:24] <pam> I just installed the lastest version of Ubuntu on an old HP G60 (from 2003ish?)...
[21:24] <pam> Once in a while when I watch youtube videos the entire screen starts to flash.  Not sure what to do about it
[21:24] <viktor> theadmin, i believe it is. but since my whole drive is encrypted it doesn't need to be. is there an (easy) way to unencrypt it?
[21:24] <fatlard3413> pam: what version of flash are you using?
[21:25] <theadmin> viktor: Not really familiar with encryption, sorry
[21:25] <iancurtish> pam: Sounds like a flash issue if that's the only time you experience the flash.
[21:25] <viktor> theadmin, no problem, thanks anyway
[21:26] <viktor> theadmin, but the option would probably be back if i could unencrypted?
[21:27] <theadmin> viktor: I assume so.
[21:27] <OerHeks> viktor, decrypting = reinstall, no way to decrypt whole system.
[21:28] <viktor> OerHeks, just want my home folder to be unencrypted, the disk in it's entirety should stay encrypted
[21:29] <pam>  fatlard3413: how can I tell what version of flash I'm running?
[21:30] <PeterCassetta> I hate to ask this again, but no one seemed to notice it the first two times... I don't have the new Unity lockscreen active anymore for some reason, but the old one from pre-14.04 releases. Does anyone know why this is or how to get it back?
[21:31] <OerHeks> viktor, decrypting your user only? make a new user, without encryption, and add this one to sudoers to obtain sudo privilege
[21:31] <sp23> so difficut english ubuntu
[21:32] <PeterCassetta> Oh well, never mind. :/
[21:33] <viktor> OerHeks, en verder?
[21:34] <OerHeks>  viktor that is all
[21:35] <viktor> OerHeks, en mijn originele account verwijderen?
[21:35] <OerHeks> dat kan daarna, als je ziet dat het werkt.
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> viktor  probeer hier wel Engels te gebruiken
[21:44] <Loshki> Wow, bunch of polyglots...
[21:44] <viktor> OerHeks, i can copy my home folder to a different location on the same disk, remove the encryption stuff, remove the original folder, and the put the copy minus the encryption stuff back? this won't mess with the encryption of my entire disk, right?
[21:45] <musdem> viktor if it is in a different partition it would probably work fine
[21:45] <viktor> MonkeyDust, right, sorry (lot's of dutch speaking people here :-p )
[21:45] <Kira9204> pam: i would presume that rhe hardware acceleration of flash does not play nicely with the old gpu driver
[21:46] <viktor> musdem, have to move the home folder to a different partition?
[21:46] <musdem> viktor no what I mean is do you have your home folder mounted to a different partition then the rest of your drive?
[21:47] <Kira9204> it should work if you disable it, or just disable tje whole 3D desktop and run Gnome fallback, altho its not named that anymore
[21:47] <musdem> or is it one partition for the whole OS
[21:47] <Kira9204> preferably both
[21:47] <rsids> I'm trying to get SPDIF to work, it shows up in alsamixer, but no sound :(
[21:47] <rsids> anyone any ideas?
[21:50] <pam> kira9204: any way to take care of this?
[21:52] <viktor> musdem, i don't believe so... http://imgur.com/IqsJ69a
[21:53] <netlar> is it safe to install unity 8 on 14.04?
[21:54] <zz> hey everyone
[21:54] <zz> i solved my issue with not being able to install any linux!
[21:54] <zz> :D :D
[21:55] <expunge> zz: well done, how'd you manage it?
[21:55] <zz> hi expunge!
[21:55] <musdem> viktor alright so you might be able to copy the contents and shrink the partition to make room for a dedicated home partition then just don't encrypt it
[21:55] <k1l_> netlar: unity8 and MIR are still in development on the desktop, so that is not in any way like the actual unity7 with compiz
[21:55] <zz> turns out, i had plugged my hdd sata cable into the asrock media sata on my mainboard, so i moved it to the black sata port and it worked lol
[21:55] <netlar> I got it thanks k1l_
[21:55] <netlar> I mean I understand
[21:56] <musdem> viktor though that would put you at risk of data loss
[21:56] <expunge> zz: oh very good
[21:56] <k1l_> netlar: you are free to try and to help make it stable
[21:56] <zz> :D
[21:56] <musdem> viktor  other than that I can't think of anything
[21:56] <zz> cant wait to install ubuntu, i just came back because i have some more questions regarding the installing onto a partition
[21:56] <jorge2> is ubuntu spyware? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html
[21:57] <expunge> jorge2: kinda, but not really
[21:57] <k1l_> jorge2: no its not and this is offtopic for this technical support channel
[21:57] <zz> expunge , i have the option, install alongside my current OS, or custom install, so i clicked custom, and i see the 2000gb free space
[21:57] <jorge2> why would gnu say it is?
[21:57] <expunge> zz: =)
[21:57] <expunge> jorge2: because it kind of is
[21:57] <zz> so you know the free space how you can press + and it opens up the create new partition?
[21:57] <k1l_> !ot | jorge2 this channel suits it better
[21:57] <expunge> GNU takes the issue very seriously, though
[21:57] <expunge> zz: sure
[21:58] <viktor> musdem, i can't just copy the home folder, rename it, remove the encryption components, remove the original folder, and replace it with the newer folder (which i'll name home then)?
[21:58] <zz> ok it says, ext4 journaled, so i leave it all as it is, but it says dir, and when i click down it lists / , /usr and other /
[21:58] <zz> im not sure what one to set it to
[21:59] <expunge> zz: you need /
[21:59] <zz> just / ?
[21:59] <expunge> zz: and swap is a good idea too, the rest are optional
[21:59] <musdem> viktor no I don't believe so though I wouldn't know for sure I always have my home folder on a sperate partition
[21:59] <expunge> zz: yes / is sort of like C:\ if you're used to Windows, it's the base of the system
[21:59] <cmanns> How do I see network speed in a task manager view on lubuntu?
[21:59] <zz> so i can then just install it to that free space which i just turned into a partition?
[21:59] <expunge> zz: yes
[21:59] <k1l_> zz: i would suggest / and /home as seperate partitions. /swap if you need it
[22:00] <cmanns> Also any tips to speed up a celeron 2.4ghz 2gb ram on lubuntu? I’d love it to take advantage of all the rams :)
[22:00] <zz> well i currently just have windows 8 and a free space of 200gb
[22:00] <expunge> cmanns: what makes you think it isn't taking advantage now?
[22:00] <cmanns> Well I do IT work and we often change default settings for web servers
[22:00] <expunge> cmanns: huh?
[22:00] <cmanns> This computers HDD is probably it’s main limitation though I already see the processor is super maxed
[22:00] <cmanns> I work for a web hosting organization
[22:00] <viktor> cmanns, have you changed swappiness?
[22:00] <cmanns> nope
[22:00] <k1l_> zz: make ~~20GB for /. the rest for /home partition (as that will store all your data). make an /swap in size of ram if you need that
[22:00] <cmanns> I just installed lubuntu
[22:01] <cmanns> it’s so far amazing compared to windows XP but i’m just wondering any simple tweaks to do, any apt-get advice, etc
[22:01] <zz> i dont exactly know what your saying k1l_
[22:01] <expunge> cmanns: try to think of something you want before you look at how to implement it =)
[22:01] <expunge> zz: you probably want / and swap
[22:01] <zz> i can do all of that to the free space?
[22:01] <expunge> swap should not be larger than your RAM
[22:02] <Loshki> cmanns: if you're serious about it, people write entire books on tuning web servers for performance e.g. Web Performance Tuning, 2nd Edition - O'Reilly Media
[22:02] <cmanns> this isnt a web server
[22:02] <Loshki> s/web servers/servers/g
[22:02] <cmanns> it isnt a server...
[22:02] <cmanns> I’m a sys/network admin of 9 years I don’t need help with servers, I will be sshing into this desktop remotely and doing some manual stuff :)
[22:03] <cmanns> Just was curious if anybody had suggestions of what helps lubuntu desktop
[22:03] <expunge> ...people write entire books on whatever sells, including things of no substance whatsoever
[22:03] <k1l_> zz: ok: all system data is stored in the / partition. all user data (pictures, downloads, usersettings,...) get stored in the /home directory. if you mak that a own partitions you are in "safer ways" in case there goes something wrong.
[22:03] <viktor> cmanns, some of this applies to lubuntu as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwBoHZuauL8
[22:03] <funkymonkey> i have a problem i cant solve. two ubuntu 14.04 comps cant se one anothers samba filesharing but are visible from htc phone, any idea?
[22:03] <Loshki> cmanns: sorry, you mentioned web servers, so I assumed...
[22:03] <expunge> cmanns: you'll have to be more specific =)
[22:03] <zz> so 200gb free space, il create a /swap the size of 8gb, a / the size of 2gb , and /home the size of 190gb
[22:03] <cmanns> Sorry Loshki
[22:03] <expunge> zz: no, / would be okay as 20, as he said, not 2
[22:03] <k1l_> zz: you just make a "extended partition" to the unused space and in that you make the 2 or 3 ubuntu partitions
[22:03] <expunge> zz: I don't personally use a separeate /home/, but that's up to you
[22:03] <Loshki> expunge: it's true, but one *well written* book is worth a hundred slapped together wikis...
[22:03] <cmanns> Like task manager says 90-100% used but the apps it doesnt add up, would this be the GFX or so?
[22:04] <expunge> Loshki: agreed
[22:04] <zz> maybe i should just click the install alongside windows until i learn more? lol
[22:04] <cmanns> team viewer only using 10% on lubuntu compared to 90% on windows XP :D
[22:04] <viktor> cmanns: http://biomedguyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/lubuntu-tweak-4-swappiness/
[22:04] <expunge> cmanns: it's a much more efficient OS
[22:04] <viktor> cmanns, maybe better
[22:04] <expunge> zz: up to you
[22:04] <zz> thanks for the help guys i really appreciate it
[22:05] <zz> im gonna go learn some more about installing ubuntu then il do it , thanks again for thelp
[22:05] <Loshki> zz: better about 10G for /, same size as RAM for swap, and the rest /home...
[22:05] <k1l_> !partitions | zz
[22:05] <expunge> if you omit /home/, you don't have to guess what / should be...
[22:06] <zz> ok awesome thanks
[22:06] <Loshki> expunge: true, but a separate /home makes upgrades/multiple oses much easier later on...
[22:06] <expunge> no it doesn't
[22:06] <zz> can we whisper ppl in this?
[22:07] <expunge> zz: /notice person foo
[22:07] <expunge> but /msg person foo will be more reliable
[22:07] <Loshki> expunge: well just have to disagree on that point then....
[22:07] <expunge> as /notice's have a tendancy to appear in random places
[22:07] <k1l_> a seperate /home makes some problems easier to solve. like when home gets filled
[22:07] <expunge> what? =P
[22:08] <funkymonkey> how do i change my Local ip?
[22:08] <Loshki> I also think a separate / and /home makes backups easier...
[22:10] <k1l_> funkymonkey: you mean you internet IP or your home network IP?
[22:10] <expunge> Loshki: how does it do that?
[22:13] <expunge> that's what I thought
[22:16] <Loshki> expunge: well, I use dump/restore for backups. It's old but fast, and works on partitions, so it's handy to be able to backup / separately to /home. In fact, my / partition is basically dataless, and I can run different root partitions with different oses on them, while using the same /home. And upgrades are similarly trivial. What little machine-specific config I do have is almost entirely in /etc...
[22:16] <krenken> hey i understand this is a ubuntu channel. but i have a whs question. how can i install window server onto a external hard drive
[22:16] <expunge> krenken: whs?
[22:16] <krenken> windows home server
[22:16] <popl> krenken: glwt
[22:16] <krenken> its a headless box so i have to install it on a laptop external enclosure
[22:16] <expunge> Loshki: handier than rsync /home/ ... ?
[22:16] <k1l_> krenken: better ask in ##windows
[22:16] <popl> "Hi, I understand this is a Ford dealership, but I really want to buy a Hyundai."
[22:17] <expunge> krenken: Windows is designed specifically not to be installed onto external disks, you have to hack it, good luck
[22:17] <Loshki> krenken: then I'm not sure you *do* understand that this is a ubuntu channel. Try ##windows...
[22:17] <expunge> popl: well, I've actually seen that =P no idea why
[22:17] <expunge> krenken: you could put your Unix install on the external though, and it wouldn't care at all
[22:20] <krenken> ya, i was just having problems with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[22:20] <krenken> thats why im back at windows
[22:20] <theadmin> krenken: This channel still won't provide support with Windows issues
[22:21] <krenken> thats wasn't a windows issue.. it was a unix statement.
[22:21] <theadmin> krenken: You're asking for help with installing Windows Server onto an external hard drive (which, by the way, is not supported)
[22:22] <popl> basically (if you haven't noticed), krenken is here to say that he had problems with ubuntu, so he's going back to windows, and you should be ashamed.
[22:22] <k1l_> krenken: please stop that. this channel is not for ranting or windows support. if you have a technical ubuntu issue come here with details and the community will try to solve that with you.
[22:22] <expunge> actually he askED, past tense
[22:23] <expunge> online discussions are more complicated if you never allow for time to pass
[22:23] <Loshki> expunge: I like how dump/restore works, back from when it used to be *the* choice for backups. There are better backup packages these days that will do bare-metal restore. Yes, you can use rsync, or tar, or cp, or whatever. You don't *have* to separate / and /home, but I find it incredibly convenient to do so...
[22:23] <popl> expunge: time?
[22:23] <expunge> Loshki: k
[22:23] <expunge> popl: and tide
[22:23] <adante> TJ-: cheers for the heads up
[22:24] <popl> expunge: it goes in and out
[22:24] <Loshki> and it waits for no man...
[22:24] <branjo3> i installed and updated ubuntu the other day, (coming from debian due to some weird stuff with the touch pad not working) and now my mic dose not work at all. it worked in debian for sure.
[22:25] <branjo3> i tryed the normal stuff like checking alsamixer, inputs, etc and i cant seem to get it to work.. any ideas?
[22:25] <expunge> popl: heh
[22:25] <jorge2> I avoid the spyware and use trisquel https://trisquel.info
[22:26] <popl> what's the package release schedule like in ubuntu?
[22:26] <popl> I was actually going to ask about solr/tomcat because there is a security issue with the current version of libtomcat6-java
[22:27] <expunge> popl: did you check packages.ubuntu.com ?
[22:28] <k1l_> popl: new versions get introduced with the new ubuntu release. but big bug fixes and security fixes get backported to the "old" version in the archives
[22:28] <popl> expunge: No, I didn't know about that site.
[22:28] <popl> expunge: thanks
[22:29] <iceroot_> popl: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[22:29] <bipul> I wants to know which brand of wifi adapter driver is available for my ubuntu
[22:29] <iceroot_> popl: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2302-1/
[22:29] <bipul> is there any command to find the driver for my wifi adapter
[22:29] <popl> bipul: Are you shopping for a wireless adapter?
[22:30] <popl> Oh.
[22:30] <bipul> popl: no
[22:30] <AssociateX> Holas todos aqui!
[22:30] <AssociateX>  I have upgraded to 14.04 LTS and  now sound does not work with youtube videos in Google Chrome. Normal event sounds work though, and sound works with youtube videos in Mozilla. Where should I start looking? I have been searching google for this issue and have not found a solution or even a reason for this yet. Thank you.
[22:30] <bipul> I am just trying to know if it exist or not
[22:30] <popl> iceroot_: Excellent!
[22:30] <popl> iceroot_: Thanks.
[22:30] <iceroot_> popl: so seems like the bug is fixed already
[22:30] <bipul> popl: do you know how to find that?
[22:30] <popl> iceroot_: I figured it might be but that I could just not find the fixed package.
[22:31] <iceroot_> popl: normaly a "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should pick up all pending security updates
[22:31] <popl> I'd seen libtomcat7-java but not realised it'd be a fix for libtomcat6-java (hadn't read about the differences between 6 and 7)
[22:31] <popl> iceroot_: unfortunately this is for a development server at work so I do not want to do a blanket upgrade.
[22:32] <popl> otherwise I would, though
[22:32] <iceroot_> popl: dist-upgrade is ALWAYS what you want for security updates
[22:32] <herroAsku> a clean installation of ubuntu will also do fine
[22:32] <iceroot_> popl: dist-upgrade does not mean to put 12.04 into 14.04 or something like that
[22:33] <popl> I understand, thanks.
[22:33] <iceroot_> popl: that command will show you all pending updates, with "apt-get changelog packagename" you will get the details for the specific package
[22:33] <herroAsku> windows is better than the latest ubuntu versions, seriously
[22:33] <iceroot_> herroAsku: ##windows
[22:33] <expunge> herroAsku: you're cute
[22:34] <herroAsku> aww shux
[22:34] <herroAsku> windows84eva
[22:34] <iceroot_> herroAsku: stop it please
[22:35]  * olf-folks thinks herroAsku is secretly billy g 
[22:36] <theadmin> herroAsku: Nobody cares. You're in an Ubuntu channel, keep it on topic or leave.
[22:44] <waykool99> windows Xfce GUI question. in v14.04.x LTS 64 bit.  I'm in the Settings window.  What setting gives the edges of windows a 'wider', if you will, margin to grab and resize windows?
[22:44] <expunge> waykool99: you can change the window manager theme
[22:44] <expunge> settings > window manager > style
[22:46] <olf-folks> i installed and updated ubuntu the other day, (coming from debian due to some weird stuff with the touch pad not working) and now my mic dose not work at all. it worked in debian for sure.
[22:46] <olf-folks> i tryed the normal stuff like checking alsamixer, inputs, etc and i cant seem to get it to work.. any ideas?
[22:49] <expunge> olf-folks: is it intel hd audio?
[22:58] <waykool99> using a Logitech marble mouse. Found workaround: under Settings, Mouse and Touchpad, tab Devices, Pointer Speed, Acceleration: barely on. Sensitivity: 30 pixels wide open.
[22:58] <expunge> marble mouse, heh
[22:59] <popl> bleh. installing libtomcat7-java means I can't install libjetty-extra-java ( Depends: libtomcat6-java (>= 6.0.20-2) )
[22:59] <popl> lame
[23:00] <Loshki> popl: yeah, you should ask for your money back...
[23:00] <popl> just commenting. it's fine.
[23:00] <Loshki> just teasing, sorry...
[23:01] <Kira9204> Loshki: you can always ask the maintainer to update it
[23:01] <Kira9204> or look into it
[23:01] <popl> it just sucks because I'll have to figure something out or figure out how to do this with tomcat (if I can) but will probably have to ask someone to update it.
[23:01] <Loshki> popl: Kira9204: there ya go...
[23:02] <popl> Then hope that happens before my boss inevitably asks me "so, uh, what's going on with that solr installation thing?"
[23:02] <popl> :)
[23:02] <Kira9204> there are almost always PPAs
[23:03] <Loshki> Kira9204: popl: that's good advice. If you see it, probably someone else has too. Did google turn up anything?
[23:04] <popl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/solr-jetty # only has the current version
[23:04] <TJ-> popl: do you happen to know if libjetty-extra-java will work with libtomcat7-java ?
[23:05] <TJ-> popl: because if it does, you can alter the Depends in the dpkg/apt package lists to allow libtomcat7-java to be an additional alternatve depends
[23:05] <Kira9204> popl: if you are certain that it should be compatible/still work you can always force install
[23:05] <TJ-> popl: I use the technique to have grub-pc and grub-efi installed at the same time
[23:05] <Kira9204> or do that ^
[23:06] <popl> TJ-: I don't think it's compatible -- http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/all/libjetty-extra-java/filelist
[23:07] <popl> it'd have to be upgraded to use the version 7.x.x stuff.
[23:07] <kmyst> hey anybody know how i can d/l an old ubuntu server guide??
[23:07] <popl> solr-jetty depends on that package, though
[23:08] <popl> so there's a chain of packages that will need to be updated
[23:08] <TJ-> popl: There's jetty 8.x since raring, is that any use?
[23:08] <TJ-> popl: The neat work-around is to create a minimal Trusty chroot and install/run it via that, alongside the Precise base system
[23:09] <awygle> hello all. in 12.04.5, is there a way to prevent apt from keeping .debs around after it's finished with them?
[23:09] <awygle> Currently I've added a DPkg post-invoke action to rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb but that seems not ideal
[23:09] <kmyst> awygle: apt-get clean
[23:10] <awygle> kmyst: sorry, i should have been more specific. i'd like to never keep a .deb past the end of the apt-get install action. i'd rather not manually run clean (or even by cron).
[23:11] <kmyst> awygle: erm dunno as the point of the cache is you can reinstall it if need be
[23:12] <popl> TJ-: Only if it could work with Apache Solr (my goal is to install Solr, according to #solr Jetty is the preferred servlet to use for it).
[23:12] <awygle> i'm running 12.04 server in a pseudo-thin-client configuration - lots of bandwidth, but very little storage. so if i have to reinstall something, i'd like to re-download it rather than keep it around forever when 99% of the time i'll never need it again.
[23:12] <popl> Ideally I'd be able to have some minimal installation instructions, or just write a small script to deploy it to all the clients.
[23:13] <TJ-> popl: If you install all the packages needs by solr in the Trusty chroot (from the Trusty archives), the whole thing would be Trusty, whilst keeping the Precise base system
[23:14] <popl> TJ-: The problem is that the packages solr requires are the old version of the tomcat libs
[23:14] <popl> solr-* I mean
[23:14] <popl> there are three, solr-common, solr-jetty, and solr-tomcat
[23:15] <TJ-> awygle: "man 5 apt.conf" and find this paragraph: "...Dir::Cache::archives. Generation of caches can be turned off by setting their names to the empty string. This will slow down startup but save disk space."
[23:16] <popl> TJ-: It is certainly a conundrum. :)
[23:17] <awygle> TJ-: i did originally try that, but according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/937951 , "Dir::cache::archives is important and can't be disabled". and i did find that when i set Dir::Cache::archives ""; in apt.conf.d, it stored all of the .debs in / instead
[23:18] <popl> TJ-: Thanks for your suggestions, though. I appreciate you spending your time.
[23:18] <TJ-> awygle: really? darn... never simple ... ok... why don't you simply mount a tmpfs at /var/lib/apt/archives ?
[23:18] <treslllamas> anyone know how to make a bottable windows 7 or vista usb from ubuntu?
[23:18] <expunge> treslllamas: yeah...
[23:19] <TJ-> popl: I'm looking at Trusty packages, at solo-jetty, which says its Depends are "jetty (>= 6.1.22)" ... the >= would suggest a 8.x version would satisfy that, or am I missing something
[23:19] <expunge> treslllamas: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[23:19] <treslllamas> thanks
[23:19] <expunge> np
[23:20] <popl> TJ-: it depends on libjetty-extra-java
[23:20] <TJ-> popl: Argggh, dependency hell
[23:21] <popl> yes
[23:21] <awygle> TJ-: a creative solution! i admit i'm not familiar with what happens if you hit the memory size limits on a tmpfs. this device will have to run for a long time, i'd be a bit worried about filling RAM...
[23:23] <cmanns> How do I enable multiverse in lubuntu software
[23:24] <MagBo> hey, beautiful people. just changing limits.conf is not enough to set nofiles for a user (according to what I see from running ulimit -n). Which steps should I take to be able to bump nofiles for a user on Ubuntu 14.04 except for this?
[23:26] <MagBo> just a sanity check: here's my /etc/security/limits.conf — http://pastebin.archlinux.fr/549266
[23:26] <TJ-> popl: There's a docker build for it you ought to be able to use with your preferred version of Solr: https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/makuk66/docker-solr/
[23:26] <MagBo> uname -a: Linux vagrant-ubuntu-trusty-64 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:27] <MagBo> ulimit -n (after reboot): 1024
[23:27] <TJ-> awygle: You basically want the files there so they can be extracted but gone later. How about a simple cron job that runs if the apt lock isn't taken (and takes the lock while it works) to run "apt-get clean" ?
[23:28] <awygle> TJ-: that works. it's not very... clean... but it works. thanks for the help :)
[23:28] <TJ-> awygle: Jackpot!! "APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0";  " see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[23:29] <SamwiseGamgee> test
[23:30] <TJ-> awygle: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[23:30] <TJ-> awygle: oops, lets try 14.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[23:30] <MagBo> and if limits.conf is not how you change ulimit -n on ubuntu 14.04 anymore, please tell me how do you change ulimit -n
[23:32] <awygle> TJ-: checking out /etc/cron.daily/apt, it looks like APT::periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; will disable autocleaning entirely
[23:32] <TJ-> awygle: precisely... set it to the number of days you want it to run at
[23:33] <awygle> TJ-: yeah, that'll probably work. thanks again!
[23:33] <TJ-> awygle: Add your own conf file in there with it set to your desired value, so you don't clash with the package's own file
[23:34] <MagBo> can it be so that pam_limits module isn't probed  by default?
[23:34] <popl> TJ-: I don't think I'd be able to convince my boss to use Docker.
[23:34] <TJ-> awygle: so maybe "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99periodic" with "PT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "1";  "
[23:34] <Apophis> Wow
[23:34] <Apophis> theres a lot of poeple here ._.
[23:35] <Apophis> Well
[23:35] <TJ-> popl: It's about the only clean solution I can see for what you want, seeing as the Ubuntu repos don't have everything you need. Certainly better than a hand-crafted manual install of everything
[23:35] <popl> Yeah.
[23:35] <Apophis> I need heelp
[23:35] <Apophis> Help
[23:35] <popl> Apophis: Ask your question.
[23:35] <TJ-> popl: You can do the same as docker in chroot, but again, it's a manual process
[23:35] <cmanns> Celeron 2.4ghz with 30gb hdd and 2gb ram is slow lol
[23:35] <popl> right
[23:35] <Bashing-om> !ask Apophis
[23:36] <Apophis> My Computer isnt that good and Im running Virual Box
[23:36] <Bashing-om> !ask | Apophis
[23:36] <Apophis> HOw can optimize it to go maximum speed and performce
[23:38] <Bashing-om> Apophis: Give the host machine the ram it needs to support the VMs (??).
[23:38] <Apophis> Well I have it the max 1530 mb of RAM
[23:39] <Apophis> Can increase the fixed size by 10 gb help?
[23:39] <OerHeks> Apophis do not run in virtualbox, saves a lot of power.
[23:39] <Apophis> well I cant dual boot atm
[23:39] <Apophis> As much as I want to
[23:43] <MagBo> alright, how to let the user to change ulimit?
[23:43] <MagBo> I can't see anything in lsmod | grep pam
[23:47] <MagBo> got it fixed
[23:47] <MagBo> had to put session required pam_limits.so
[23:48] <MagBo> in /etc/pam.d/common-session files
[23:48] <delinquentme> ls /var/cache/salt/master/minions/(echo"$1")-01/files/etc/munge/munge.key  how can I get this to evaluate ??
[23:48] <delinquentme> ls /var/cache/salt/master/minions/$1-01/files/etc/munge/munge.key
[23:48] <delinquentme> ^ doesnt work either
[23:51] <smitzer> How do I use this:
[23:51] <smitzer> https://launchpad.net/~mapeditor.org/+archive/ubuntu/tiled
[23:51] <smitzer> I think it is ubuntu packages somehow
[23:51] <TJ-> delinquentme: "ls /var/cache/salt/master/minions/${1}-01/files/etc/munge/munge.key"
[23:51] <TJ-> smitzer: "sudo apt-get install tiled" ?
[23:52] <jellow> !addppa | smitzer
[23:55] <smitzer> oh, didnt think such a program was in the repo. nice!
[23:56] <smitzer> Can I cross over text in gedit? Like in word and wordpad. like if you make a list of things to do, you want to cross over it when it is done.
[23:56] <cmanns> So Lubuntu after swappiness / preload adjustments and zRam seems to help
[23:56] <cmanns> Any reason to not use zram let me know :)
[23:57] <jcarpio7> Ubuntu Rules !!!
[23:57] <k1l_> cmanns: its standard in lubuntu (and others like android) and is a good thing for systems with limited ram
[23:58] <cmanns> Nice, we have 2gb ram but I decided to enable it anyways as it appears to just put swap in ram, which it has yet to use over 300mb of ram out of 2gb, and the HDD is the slowest part behind the intel 8248 gfx and the celeron 2.4ghz lol
[23:58] <cmanns> So far friend seems to dig Lubuntu over windows XP
[23:59] <AssociateX> Sound is not working in Google Chrome after 14.04LTS update, all other apps sound still works. I need some direction. I've googled the heck out of this.
[23:59] <linuxguy101> why doest ubuntu have a gui program for all root commands that is available for users to set permission levels and security levels