[14:00] on a typical ubuntu system, how early is lo up? can I assume that a job triggered by local-filesystems will always see lo up? === lazyPower_ is now known as lazyPower [14:05] alternatively, will "start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=lo" work regardless of the order the two things happen in? (and is that true in general, or are either of those special in some way?) === ion- is now known as ion [21:30] http://pastebin.com/GQNa6Fcj [21:31] if i start that, then try to stop it... the stop hangs and init goes into a funny state where it hangs on every start/stop request until i kill pid 1 [21:32] this happens with amazon's default ami on ec2 [21:32] anyone have any ideas?