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xubuntu877How do I use OpenGL 2.0 with Xubuntu?02:13
xubuntu877What is the default web browser for Xubuntu?02:16
cfhowlettfirefox02:17
TesterWhat is the default web browser for Xubuntu? The browser that installs on default.02:26
cfhowlettTester, firefox02:34
xubuntu822folks I was using xubuntu on 16gb flash drive and recently it started giving me error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found02:46
xubuntu822can some one help02:46
cfhowlettxubuntu822, flash drive installations will break.  frequently.  plan on it.  easiest fix: reinstall to the USB02:47
xubuntu822i have data on it02:47
xubuntu822is der a way i can get it back02:48
xubuntu822it was encrypted as well02:48
cfhowlettboot from a different machine.  attempt to mount your USB.  supply the requested encryption passwor.02:49
TesterCfhowlett... Thanks for the Information.......03:07
cfhowlettTester, happy2help03:08
TesterI started comparing Xubuntu with Lubuntu and your info helps. I've been using Firefox for years.03:10
xanguafirefox <303:10
TesterI thought I would try a DE that is not has heavy as KDE or Mate.03:11
GatisHi04:17
GatisIN Whisker Menu in Setting tab i don't see any settings.. Why?04:17
GatisI think there is a bug in Whisker Menu04:32
GatisXubuntu Whiske Menu have bugs04:36
cfhowlettGatis, bring this to #xfce04:39
Gatiswhy>04:40
GatisPlease fix Whisker menu :) Im dropping it04:47
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GatisI did clean xubuntu install but something is wrong with menus05:22
mfabelI'm trying to set up some iptables stuff, and to start I just want to log outgoing traffic to a file. The rules for iptables seems to be correct but the log file remains empty. What should I be checking to make this work?08:51
bazhangmfabel, try #netfilter09:05
mfabelThank you.09:06
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DavesHello, is it normal that left & right window tiling dosen't work in Xubuntu??? I'm not sure if i'm the one who made a mistake:(11:52
guestmew123321is it necessary to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.1?11:57
bazhangfor security, sure11:57
bazhangand bug fixes, as well11:57
ObrienDaveguestmew123321, type "cat /etc/issue"11:58
ObrienDavein a terminal11:58
guestmew123321i guess i somehow upgraded automatically11:59
guestmew123321through updates11:59
guestmew123321thanks11:59
sybDaves: You can turn on window tiling in System Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks -> Accessibility. Make sure "Automatically tile windows when moving toward the screen edge" is selected.11:59
LimakXRobczukhello12:12
ObrienDavegreetings and welcome12:12
LimakXRobczukmy xubuntu is installing right now and i have one question12:13
LimakXRobczukis it fully compatibile with ubunty abd debian?12:13
ObrienDavenot 100% debian12:13
LimakXRobczuk*ubuntu and debian12:13
koegsxubuntu is ubuntu with xfce instead of unity :)12:14
ObrienDaveUbuntu, no problem12:14
LimakXRobczukdo you know maybe, is wineHQ for ubuntu works ok?12:14
bazhang#winehq is a channel LimakXRobczuk12:15
LimakXRobczuki'm fresh linux user, so sorry if i ask for something obvious ;)12:16
ObrienDavenot a problem12:16
bazhang /join #winehq12:16
LimakXRobczukok, thanks everyone =)12:16
ObrienDavemost welcome and welcome to the world of Ubuntu :)12:17
ambuttsIs it me or does the erase HDD option in the installer when setting up an encrypted LVM not do anything?12:36
ambuttsErasing a 500 GB HDD should take at least 30 minutes, but it doesn't seem to increase the install time at all.12:36
ObrienDaveambutts, it does not actually erase it. quick format, iirc. takes a few seconds12:37
ambuttsI think I know what you're talking about, but there's a second option if you're doing an encrypted setup.12:37
ambutts'Overwrite empty disk space' or something similar.12:39
ObrienDavehmm, i really don't know. never used it. (thinks encrypted drives are dangerously silly)12:40
ambuttsWhat makes them silly?12:41
ambutts(Or dangerous.)12:41
ObrienDavean encrypted drive is basically one giant file, afaik. the idea of losing any one sector to render the drive unreadable, is dangerous12:42
ambuttsMakes sense.12:42
RedDevil_+112:42
ambuttsI keep backups and carry the system around, so I'm good in the event of data loss or hardware theft.12:43
ambuttsOnly reason I bother, really.12:43
ObrienDavemakes much more sense to encrypt an archive of the sensitive info with backups12:44
RedDevil_I think that good permission control is best way for safety & easy way to use data :)12:45
xubuntu780hi, I need some help. I am trying to download a lexmark printer driver. I am running Xubuntu 14.04; however, it doesn't have Xubuntu listed. It does have Ubuntu listed so I was just going to download that one; is this okay? and if so, what version should I download? 10.04? 10.10? 09.04? 09.10?13:06
ObrienDavexubuntu780, it will be ok. Xubuntu is Ubuntu with a different DE (Desktop Environment). I would suggest the latest driver that supports your printer13:07
xubuntu780it also lists debian, debian GNU, fedora, Linux Mint, OpenSUSE, and PCLinux13:08
ObrienDavexubuntu780, always use Ubuntu if you can13:08
xubuntu780oh great, then I will go with Ubuntu 10.04? I assume this will be similar to my recent xubuntu version.13:09
xubuntu780Thanks alot :D13:09
* Church would rather think against drive encryption for performance reasons. Disks are already as is one of least evolving pc component. Don't want to slow down disk io subsys anymore.13:09
xubuntu780thats weird when i select ubuntu 10.04. it gives me a printer driver for a debian-based packaging? is ubuntu a debian based?13:11
ObrienDaveyes, you should get a .deb file13:11
xubuntu780OH, okay gotch13:12
xubuntu780gotcha*13:12
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xubuntu780How do I set a picture from google image search to become my wallpaper? or how do I save the wallpaper file into the wallpaper folder?13:44
RedDevil_Hmmmmm, by what browser????13:49
cfhowlettxubuntu780, save the image.  add the image to /usr/share/backgrounds13:50
RedDevil_Right click -> Save image as ... (image usually saves to Downloads folder), and that go to Download folder, and if you need replace to Images folder13:51
RedDevil_This is true for Chromium13:51
elfycfhowlett: possibly /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/ can't remember what 14.04 was13:52
cfhowlettelfy, I'm on 14.04.    that file contains shortcuts to /us/share/backgrounds13:54
elfyaah cool :)13:55
xubuntu780cfhowlett, okay I found the folder backdrops, but i can't seem to move the file into there? I think i need root access, but how do i force root access?13:57
cfhowlettxubuntu780, sudo13:57
xubuntu780RedDevil, thanks, but I am trying to put the wallpapers into 1 folder :)13:57
xubuntu780cfhowlett, so if i have the folder open how do i sudo?13:58
cfhowlettxubuntu780, easiest way sudo cp <draganddropsourcefilename> <draganddroptargetfilename>13:58
xubuntu780in the terminal? is there by chance a nonterminal way? I am new to linux.. and those instrhuctions are rathering confusing... he14:00
cfhowlettxubuntu780, remember drag and drop in windows?  same same.14:03
cfhowlettxubuntu780, open a terminal.14:03
cfhowlettxubuntu780, sudo cp draganddropthesourcefilehere /usr/share/filename14:04
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xubuntu780cfhowlett, i failed.14:15
xubuntu780sudo cp abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops14:16
xubuntu780abstract_paint is the name of the file14:16
cfhowlettxubuntu780, nope.  THIS is why I said "drag and drop"14:16
xubuntu780its on my desktop so i am guessing I have to give that info as well14:16
cfhowlettxubuntu780, exactly.14:17
cfhowlettDRAG AND DROP FROM THE DESKTOP14:17
xubuntu780you mean literally?14:17
* cfhowlett slams face into the keyboard14:17
cfhowlettxubuntu780, yes.14:17
cfhowlettxubuntu780, on the target side, you have to specify the filename as well14:18
xubuntu780okay so not using the terminal14:18
xubuntu780i click with my cursor on the file14:18
xubuntu780and dragged it into my folder to drop14:18
xubuntu780like i do in windows. BUT the file doesn't drop in the folder and just shows an animation going back to the desktop14:19
cfhowlettxubuntu780, and that not work.  Which is WHY I said "USE THE TERMINAL"14:19
cfhowlettxubuntu780, It's a permissions isssue.  you get superuser/sudo permissions from your terminal.  your GUI app doesn't have those permissions14:20
xubuntu780oh man, so linux is all about memorizing commands and paths eh?14:20
elfynot at all14:21
xubuntu780i don't get how its not...14:22
elfyinstall gksu and run gksu-properties to make sure it's set to use sudo, then you can run gksudo thunar and have thunar with the necessary perms14:22
cfhowlettxubuntu780, sudo thunar14:22
xubuntu780okay but how come this doesn't work: sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops14:23
cfhowlettelfy, gksudo not included in 14.o04 by default14:23
elfyI know - I didn't say use it - I said install it14:23
cfhowlettxubuntu780, what is the name of the target file.  remember?  I said you need to be specific14:23
xubuntu780i have to add abstract_paint to the end of backdrops?14:24
cfhowlettbackdrops is the FOLDER14:24
xubuntu780sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/abstract_paint14:26
xubuntu780cp: cannot stat ‘/home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint’: No such file or directory14:26
xubuntu780but then i get that error14:26
xubuntu780wow, i have never felt like such a noob14:26
xubuntu780lol14:26
cfhowlettxubuntu780, sudo thunar14:27
xubuntu780LOL, i did. but i am determined to figure this out14:27
cfhowlettxubuntu780, abstract_paint is an incorrect filename for a picture.     .jpg?  .png?  what?14:28
xubuntu780.jpg14:28
cfhowlettxubuntu780, <again> COMPLETE filenames are required.14:28
xubuntu780OMG, I capitalized the "A" and the "P" in the file name i think thats the issue as well!14:28
cfhowlettxubuntu780, drag and drop to the terminal = problem solved14:29
xubuntu780oh14:29
xubuntu780what do you know14:29
xubuntu780the file path... can be seen so easily. huh, _ (underscore) isn't used for spaces in the terminal?14:30
patatestilda or guake? I can't decide14:30
elfytry both and then decide - we can't decide for you14:31
bazhangpatates, dont crosspost or poll14:31
patatesposting in xubuntu and ubuntu is corssposting?14:31
patatescross14:31
bazhangpatates, try them both, only you know14:31
bazhangpatates, yes14:32
patatesoh, ok, sorry about that14:32
xubuntu780so i am a little confused.14:33
xubuntu780family@FamilyHP:~$ sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/Abstract Paint.jpg /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/ cp: cannot stat ‘/home/family/Desktop/Abstract’: No such file or directory cp: cannot stat ‘Paint.jpg’: No such file or directory14:34
xubuntu780so i dragged the file into the terminal and got: family@FamilyHP:~$ '/home/family/Desktop/Abstract Paint.jpg'14:34
xubuntu780it looks exactly the same. In what i typed "abstract" and "paint" is separated by a "spacebar" but I'm not suppose to?14:36
brainwashnotice the ''14:36
cfhowlettxubuntu780, good.  for the target, use the single quotes and complete /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/filenamehere14:36
xubuntu780OMG14:37
xubuntu780it worked!14:37
cfhowlettxubuntu780, of course it did!14:37
cfhowlettand now you know how.14:37
xubuntu780wow that simple task took over 30 minutes lol14:37
xubuntu780thank you everyone XD14:38
cfhowlettxubuntu780, happy2help14:38
patateswhat was command for the output that shows os, themes, logo of os and some more.. like an about screen14:39
elfyxubuntu780: only becasue you had to learn this time - you had to learn how to use windows too ;)14:39
cfhowlettelfy, nah, everybody born after 1985 was BORN knowing Windows!14:40
elfy:)14:40
xubuntu780yeah, then I did sudo thunar. so much easier. XD14:40
xubuntu780oh "cp" stands for copy paste, right?14:41
slickymasterWorkxubuntu780: take a look at http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php#cp14:43
patatesfound it 'screenfetch'14:44
cfhowlettxubuntu780, new command to learn: man.  short for manual.14:46
cfhowlettxubuntu780, man cp14:46
xubuntu149hi everyone.  just installed Xubuntu on an HPmini, with apparently a broadcom card, and seems like there are some issues there.  Most of the posts I am finding are a couple of years old, so just in case someone here has a current, updated fix for what is going on?14:52
xubuntu149apparently my wired connection was what showed up as being used during the installation process, with my wifi never being used, but of course I installed on wifi...14:53
cfhowlett!broadcom | xubuntu14914:54
ubottuxubuntu149: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:54
Gatis!help14:56
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:56
xubuntu149system settings are showing that I am using the right driver for my device, the proprietary one from bcmwl-kernel-source14:57
Gatisthat's ok14:57
GatisI also have broadcom driver :)14:58
xubuntu149but keep getting authentication error14:58
GatisWhile connecting to Wi-Fi?14:58
xubuntu149yes, and like I said, I have a feeling it has someething to do with it thinking that I used my wired connection while installing.  I deleted all network connections and restarted, and same problem14:59
Gatisunplug wired connection15:00
xubuntu149was never plugged in15:00
xubuntu149but first time I tried to troubleshoot, network manager showed as used 10 minutes ago (install)15:01
GatisSo Wi-Fi is working but can't connect to router?15:02
xubuntu149yep, constant authentication error15:06
Gatisforget Wi-fi network, disable and enable your wi-fi on your laptop15:06
Gatisrestart15:06
Gatistry something like that15:06
xubuntu149where does one disable/enable?15:07
xubuntu743hi15:07
xubuntu743i was instaling latest xubutu15:07
xubuntu743and go afk15:08
xubuntu743then when i was back there was desktop15:08
Gatisnice15:08
Gatis:)15:08
xubuntu743like it was instaled fine15:08
xubuntu743but when i ejected cd15:08
xubuntu743computer hanged up15:08
xubuntu743so i restarted15:08
Gatisbecause you had Live CD15:08
GatisXubuntu booted from your CD15:09
xubuntu743but i was instaling15:09
xubuntu743normally15:09
xubuntu743not bootin live cd15:09
Gatisok you restarted what happened?15:09
xubuntu743and now i get Invalid partition15:09
xubuntu743something like that15:09
xubuntu743invalid partition table15:10
xubuntu743and i dunno what to do :c15:10
GatisReinstall :)15:10
xubuntu743Why ?15:10
xubuntu149nope, same error15:10
xubuntu743i'm not alone :D15:11
Gatisxubuntu743,  try to reinstall :) what else can i say15:11
xubuntu149no, sorry 743, different problem15:11
xubuntu743fuck15:11
xubuntu743im trying to instal it 5th time -,-15:11
Gatiswhy 5th time?15:12
xubuntu743cuz my computer sucks and some times it hangs cuz of cd-drive which eating my cds15:12
holsteinxubuntu743: test the hard drive and make sure its not failing.. and please watch your language in the channel15:12
patatesinstall other disto, like opensuse?, if you can't install that too might br your hdd?15:12
xubuntu743there is problem in my cd-drive15:13
patatesinstall using usb15:13
xubuntu743but that time it was going well15:13
cfhowlettxubuntu743, usb15:13
xubuntu743i cant15:13
holsteinxubuntu743: then, use anothing media to install from15:13
patatesnetinstall?15:13
cfhowlett!netinstall15:13
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate15:13
holstein!Mini15:13
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:13
holsteinor, you can use plop to make a CD That will point to a USB stick on legacy hardware that cant boot USB15:14
GatisXubunty149, try open-source driver15:14
littlebithi people, I have here a laptop whose wlan card won't connect to a wpa2 secured wlan although I made sure that the wpa2 password is correct. Can someone help/15:14
littlebit??15:14
xubuntu743how to make a plop ?15:14
holstein!wifi | littlebit15:14
ubottulittlebit: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:14
holsteinxubuntu743: i use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/15:14
xubuntu743thanks :)15:15
xubuntu149my card is not listed under the open source stuff, I have a 431315:15
holsteinxubuntu743: you can also take the hard drive to another machine that has a "better" optical drive, and install there and bring the drive back to the "bad" machine15:15
xubuntu743i had only laptop15:15
holstein!broadcom15:15
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:15
Gatislittlebit, what wireless card do you have?15:16
xubuntu149yeah, but I have the right driver installed15:16
holsteinxubuntu743: im only giving you plausible options,. xubuntu/linux/ubuntu cant "fix" your broken optical drive and make it install.. or address a failing hard drive15:16
xubuntu743i now15:16
xubuntu743i will try install through internet or make plop to usb :P15:16
littlebitGatis: It is an intel one. but the thing is that it was just working fine.15:16
xubuntu743or from harddrive15:16
Gatischeck your wireless card in terminal:  "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4"15:17
Gatisxubuntu149,15:18
xubuntu149BCM4313 472715:18
xubuntu149rev 0115:18
holsteinxubuntu743: i use..15:19
littlebitGatis: I have a intel corportion centrino wireless-n 223015:19
holsteinxubuntu743: sorry.. i meant xubuntu14915:19
xubuntu743kay xd15:19
holstein!broadcom | xubuntu14915:19
ubottuxubuntu149: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:19
holsteinxubuntu149: if you can wire up with wired internet, its drastically easier..15:20
littlebitGatis: I have many neighbour wlans listed including my own but apparently the password seems to be wrong for some reason, altough i have checked that 3 times and it is correct15:20
Gatislittlebit, xubuntu149 has same problem :)15:21
holsteinlittlebit: try removing it from the list of wifi access points.. you likely entered the address incorrectly.. remove and reconnect15:21
xubuntu149drastically easier to do what?15:22
holsteinlittlebit: make an access point that has no encryption and test that it connects.. test the card with a supported operating system to make sure its not "broken".. i like to test with the live CD *before* installing15:22
GatisRight click on Network icon in taskbar and chose Edit Connections and delete Wi-Fi network15:22
GatisWell i use LXDE15:23
holsteinxubuntu149: i am proposing its drastically easier to install the proprietary broadcom drivers by plugging in a wired internet connection to do so..15:23
xubuntu149but those are the drivers that are currently installed.  I think the problem is that during install, it "thinks" it used the wired connection, which was not connected15:24
xubuntu149first time start up after install, when I went into the network connections, it had wired used 10 minutes ago (install, it was never used) and wifi was never used.15:24
holsteinxubuntu149: i really dont think so15:25
Rosbuntuhi15:25
Rosbuntuwhat cool things can i do with xubuntu15:25
Rosbuntuiv xubuntu installed15:26
holsteinxubuntu149: i would just wire up, and applyy any upgrades.. make sure you are using the proprietary driver.. then, you can go through the list above if you like15:26
holsteinRosbuntu: just use it to meet your personal needs. if you have a querstion about how to do something specific, feel free to ask.. if you want to chat about it, use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. thanks! :)15:26
xubuntu149yeah, well, of course my home system is usijng wifi upstairs, and the router is downstairs, where I wont have access to any commands (and no printer)15:26
Rosbuntuokey15:27
littlebitok this is extremely wierd. I have turned off the encryption of my router and I have noticed that the laptop still won't connect15:28
Gatisxubuntu149, try to turn off password of router15:28
holsteinlittlebit: then, its likely not the password, but how the chip is supporting linux.. i would try the other driver options and test15:29
holsteinlittlebit: these days, i have little patience for devices that dont support linux well.. i'll just physically replace them15:30
Gatisxubuntu149, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm8021115:31
Gatisxubuntu149, try: sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac15:37
xubuntu149ok, I am going to say this again, I think the problem has to do with the fact that the system showed my Wired connection as having been used.  Why do I think that?  Because I just went down to try to plug in and then realised that this netbook doesnt even have an ethernet connection15:40
xubuntu149so wiring up is not an option15:40
GatisWhat laptop do you have?15:40
xubuntu149hp mini15:40
xubuntu14911015:40
GatisIt has ethernet15:41
GatisCheck latop around15:42
xubuntu149no, it does not15:42
holsteinxubuntu149: i disagree with that.. but, feel free and troubleshooot and confirm that.. it will be easier to change drivers while online via wired connection15:42
Gatisxubuntu149, check this15:42
xubuntu149maybe it came with something usb, but I dont have any of that15:42
Gatissudo modprobe -r wl15:42
xubuntu149there is no way to wire this thing15:42
Gatissudo modprobe brcmsmac15:43
holsteinxubuntu149: ok15:43
Gatisxubuntu149, do this15:43
holsteinxubuntu149: you can purchase or borrow hardware that facilitates that.. you can purchase/borrow wifi hardware that supports linux "better"15:43
xubuntu149ok, did those15:43
Gatisok try15:43
Gatisnow15:43
Gatisi messed up my broadcom drivers too15:44
Gatisi have same problem as you now15:45
holsteinxubuntu149: you "did those" what?15:45
xubuntu149now I have no wifi15:45
xubuntu149those commands that gatis just posted15:45
holstein!tab15:45
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:45
Gatisxubuntu149, try this15:47
Gatissudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac15:48
Gatissudo modprobe brcmsmac15:48
xubuntu149got my wifi connections back, but no change in authentication, although this time I didnt get the error, it still didnt connect15:50
Gatisdelete network connection15:52
Gatisand connect again enter pass15:52
Gatismaybe will help15:52
Gatistry to restart pc15:54
holsteini would do whatever it takes to wire the machine up.. then, i would apply upgrades, and reboot and test.. then, i would try the available drivers in the repo.. then, i would test the hardware to make sure its functioning properly15:56
Gatisxubuntu149, check this, there is your wireless chip mentioned: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Known_Issues15:56
GatisType in terminal those commands and reboot15:57
xubuntu149its functioning properly in windows, which I just blew away in order to give myself this problem, which is precisely what happens every single effing time I install linux.  I never get past this part, because its always the same story15:58
xubuntu149again, that seems to address the problem directly gatis, but I dont have a wired connection15:59
holsteinxubuntu149: sure.. it is the same story for that specific hardware.. they dont support linux, and they didnt promise you linux would work16:00
Gatisxubuntu149, i think brcmsmac driver is in ubuntu by default16:00
xubuntu149every single time I have tried to install linux, which is all but once now (for a friend, of course) i've had some hardware issue.  everytime16:00
holsteinxubuntu149: it can be challenging.. personally, i would wire up, and try some different drivers.. but, these days, $12us can get you a chip from a manufacturer that supports linux16:00
holsteinxubuntu149: sure. you are using hardware that promises windows support. there is a sticker on the box like that16:01
xubuntu149challenging is your word, i have another word for it16:01
holsteinxubuntu149: if you were to buy a machine that ships with linux, and try to put win8 on it, you might encounter the same issues... it can be a challenge to go against the grain, so to speak, on what the machine is intended to do16:01
Gatisyeah16:02
Gatisit's nice if you have new pc16:02
Gatisi think you would have no problem16:02
holsteinxubuntu149: in the future i suggest reaching out to a local linux users group, or coming here *before* installing.. there are some easy things you can do to at least be prepared for installing linux and knowing the potential hassles16:03
holsteinxubuntu149: all of linux/ubuntu/xubuntu is open, and broadcom is able to, and actually are trying to support them now.. but, there are some chips that are more challenging16:03
holsteinthere are some devices that just dont support linux at all.. and they never promised to, so, its really just the way it is...16:04
Gatisspecially old devices16:05
Gatisi have old pc16:05
xubuntu743ok i booted usb by the plop on cd16:05
xubuntu743can i now eject cd ?16:05
* Gatis need to reboot16:06
Gatisxubuntu149, you should restart pc after those commands16:09
Gatissudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac | sudo modprobe brcmsmac16:11
Gatisand reboot16:11
xubuntu149module wl not found16:12
Gatisyou haven't rebooted16:13
GatisI believe you need to reboot after these commands16:14
mokratesHi, I have a Problem with pam_mount and lightdm16:15
mokratesseems that pam_mount (which is supposed to and does mount a cifs volume) is too slow to mount that homedirectory16:16
mokratesand thus the xfce-session puts some stuff in the mountpoint and later in the mounted volume and dies16:16
mokratesuh, i use likewise-open on a 12.0416:16
mokratesanybody got an idea?16:17
Gatisi have no idea16:17
Gatisi don't know anything about pam_mount16:17
holsteinxubuntu743: there will be no benefit to freeing up the optical drive, since you say its failing16:24
xubuntu149module wl not found16:27
xubuntu149probably because i did this sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source16:27
xubuntu149and I cant get the other package because I dont have any internet connection16:28
Gatisdid you try sudo modprobe mrcmsmac16:28
GatisYou can also try to reinstall xubuntu :)16:29
xubuntu149module not found16:29
xubuntu149i'm going to try from the livecd, see what happens16:29
Gatisalright16:29
KevinHi ?16:31
Gatishi16:31
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Guest1424Could you guys help me please?16:31
xubuntu149ha, no idea what happened, but it started working.17:18
xubuntu149thanks gatis, hope to never speak with you all again ;)17:19
xubuntu149in other words, see you tomorrow probably :D17:19
Gatisxubuntu149, huh17:21
GatisAlright :)17:21
Gatisxubuntu149, i have question17:22
GatisDO you have apps in Menu under settings?17:22
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GatisCan anyone having Xubuntu tell me if they have apps in Menu under Settings?17:45
ObrienDaveapps as in??? they're all apps17:47
ObrienDavepffffffffffft18:09
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xubuntu752is there a way to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 but not switch to whiskermenu?21:03
xubuntu752or whatever the new menu is called21:04
knomexubuntu752, yes, existing user accounts will keep their configuration21:07
knomexubuntu752, you can even use the "old" application menu on new user accounts if you wish, just replace whiskermenu with the application menu applet in the panel21:08
xubuntu752knome, so it will stay the same?21:09
knomexubuntu752, as i said, existing user accounts will keep their configuration; yes, your menu will be the same menu21:09
xubuntu752knome, thanks21:09
knomeunless you create a new user, but even then you can switch to the "old" menu anyway.21:09
xubuntu752i see21:10
knomethey are both simply applets (or, modules) to the panel21:10
knomeyou can even add both to a single panel if you wish.21:10
xubuntu752knome,where would i go to change it to the old menu for a new account?21:12
LazyUser69Does anyone happen to know why the software updater in xubuntu no longer shows?23:24
LazyUser69I have the update notifier in the startup, so this is weird.23:25
LazyUser69Seems to be running...23:26
LazyUser69Because I have updates according to apt-get upgrade23:27
SamwiseGamgeetest23:28
LazyUser69pong23:28
arno_how do I set xkboptions in xfce?23:51

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