[02:13] <xubuntu877> How do I use OpenGL 2.0 with Xubuntu?
[02:16] <xubuntu877> What is the default web browser for Xubuntu?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> firefox
[02:26] <Tester> What is the default web browser for Xubuntu? The browser that installs on default.
[02:34] <cfhowlett> Tester, firefox
[02:46] <xubuntu822> folks I was using xubuntu on 16gb flash drive and recently it started giving me error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[02:46] <xubuntu822> can some one help
[02:47] <cfhowlett> xubuntu822, flash drive installations will break.  frequently.  plan on it.  easiest fix: reinstall to the USB
[02:47] <xubuntu822> i have data on it
[02:48] <xubuntu822> is der a way i can get it back
[02:48] <xubuntu822> it was encrypted as well
[02:49] <cfhowlett> boot from a different machine.  attempt to mount your USB.  supply the requested encryption passwor.
[03:07] <Tester> Cfhowlett... Thanks for the Information.......
[03:08] <cfhowlett> Tester, happy2help
[03:10] <Tester> I started comparing Xubuntu with Lubuntu and your info helps. I've been using Firefox for years.
[03:10] <xangua> firefox <3
[03:11] <Tester> I thought I would try a DE that is not has heavy as KDE or Mate.
[04:17] <Gatis> Hi
[04:17] <Gatis> IN Whisker Menu in Setting tab i don't see any settings.. Why?
[04:32] <Gatis> I think there is a bug in Whisker Menu
[04:36] <Gatis> Xubuntu Whiske Menu have bugs
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Gatis, bring this to #xfce
[04:40] <Gatis> why>
[04:47] <Gatis> Please fix Whisker menu :) Im dropping it
[05:22] <Gatis> I did clean xubuntu install but something is wrong with menus
[08:51] <mfabel> I'm trying to set up some iptables stuff, and to start I just want to log outgoing traffic to a file. The rules for iptables seems to be correct but the log file remains empty. What should I be checking to make this work?
[09:05] <bazhang> mfabel, try #netfilter
[09:06] <mfabel> Thank you.
[11:52] <Daves> Hello, is it normal that left & right window tiling dosen't work in Xubuntu??? I'm not sure if i'm the one who made a mistake:(
[11:57] <guestmew123321> is it necessary to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.1?
[11:57] <bazhang> for security, sure
[11:57] <bazhang> and bug fixes, as well
[11:58] <ObrienDave> guestmew123321, type "cat /etc/issue"
[11:58] <ObrienDave> in a terminal
[11:59] <guestmew123321> i guess i somehow upgraded automatically
[11:59] <guestmew123321> through updates
[11:59] <guestmew123321> thanks
[11:59] <syb> Daves: You can turn on window tiling in System Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks -> Accessibility. Make sure "Automatically tile windows when moving toward the screen edge" is selected.
[12:12] <LimakXRobczuk> hello
[12:12] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[12:13] <LimakXRobczuk> my xubuntu is installing right now and i have one question
[12:13] <LimakXRobczuk> is it fully compatibile with ubunty abd debian?
[12:13] <ObrienDave> not 100% debian
[12:13] <LimakXRobczuk> *ubuntu and debian
[12:14] <koegs> xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce instead of unity :)
[12:14] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu, no problem
[12:14] <LimakXRobczuk> do you know maybe, is wineHQ for ubuntu works ok?
[12:15] <bazhang> #winehq is a channel LimakXRobczuk
[12:16] <LimakXRobczuk> i'm fresh linux user, so sorry if i ask for something obvious ;)
[12:16] <ObrienDave> not a problem
[12:16] <bazhang>  /join #winehq
[12:16] <LimakXRobczuk> ok, thanks everyone =)
[12:17] <ObrienDave> most welcome and welcome to the world of Ubuntu :)
[12:36] <ambutts> Is it me or does the erase HDD option in the installer when setting up an encrypted LVM not do anything?
[12:36] <ambutts> Erasing a 500 GB HDD should take at least 30 minutes, but it doesn't seem to increase the install time at all.
[12:37] <ObrienDave> ambutts, it does not actually erase it. quick format, iirc. takes a few seconds
[12:37] <ambutts> I think I know what you're talking about, but there's a second option if you're doing an encrypted setup.
[12:39] <ambutts> 'Overwrite empty disk space' or something similar.
[12:40] <ObrienDave> hmm, i really don't know. never used it. (thinks encrypted drives are dangerously silly)
[12:41] <ambutts> What makes them silly?
[12:41] <ambutts> (Or dangerous.)
[12:42] <ObrienDave> an encrypted drive is basically one giant file, afaik. the idea of losing any one sector to render the drive unreadable, is dangerous
[12:42] <ambutts> Makes sense.
[12:42] <RedDevil_> +1
[12:43] <ambutts> I keep backups and carry the system around, so I'm good in the event of data loss or hardware theft.
[12:43] <ambutts> Only reason I bother, really.
[12:44] <ObrienDave> makes much more sense to encrypt an archive of the sensitive info with backups
[12:45] <RedDevil_> I think that good permission control is best way for safety & easy way to use data :)
[13:06] <xubuntu780> hi, I need some help. I am trying to download a lexmark printer driver. I am running Xubuntu 14.04; however, it doesn't have Xubuntu listed. It does have Ubuntu listed so I was just going to download that one; is this okay? and if so, what version should I download? 10.04? 10.10? 09.04? 09.10?
[13:07] <ObrienDave> xubuntu780, it will be ok. Xubuntu is Ubuntu with a different DE (Desktop Environment). I would suggest the latest driver that supports your printer
[13:08] <xubuntu780> it also lists debian, debian GNU, fedora, Linux Mint, OpenSUSE, and PCLinux
[13:08] <ObrienDave> xubuntu780, always use Ubuntu if you can
[13:09] <xubuntu780> oh great, then I will go with Ubuntu 10.04? I assume this will be similar to my recent xubuntu version.
[13:09] <xubuntu780> Thanks alot :D
[13:09]  * Church would rather think against drive encryption for performance reasons. Disks are already as is one of least evolving pc component. Don't want to slow down disk io subsys anymore.
[13:11] <xubuntu780> thats weird when i select ubuntu 10.04. it gives me a printer driver for a debian-based packaging? is ubuntu a debian based?
[13:11] <ObrienDave> yes, you should get a .deb file
[13:12] <xubuntu780> OH, okay gotch
[13:12] <xubuntu780> gotcha*
[13:44] <xubuntu780> How do I set a picture from google image search to become my wallpaper? or how do I save the wallpaper file into the wallpaper folder?
[13:49] <RedDevil_> Hmmmmm, by what browser????
[13:50] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, save the image.  add the image to /usr/share/backgrounds
[13:51] <RedDevil_> Right click -> Save image as ... (image usually saves to Downloads folder), and that go to Download folder, and if you need replace to Images folder
[13:51] <RedDevil_> This is true for Chromium
[13:52] <elfy> cfhowlett: possibly /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/ can't remember what 14.04 was
[13:54] <cfhowlett> elfy, I'm on 14.04.    that file contains shortcuts to /us/share/backgrounds
[13:55] <elfy> aah cool :)
[13:57] <xubuntu780> cfhowlett, okay I found the folder backdrops, but i can't seem to move the file into there? I think i need root access, but how do i force root access?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, sudo
[13:57] <xubuntu780> RedDevil, thanks, but I am trying to put the wallpapers into 1 folder :)
[13:58] <xubuntu780> cfhowlett, so if i have the folder open how do i sudo?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, easiest way sudo cp <draganddropsourcefilename> <draganddroptargetfilename>
[14:00] <xubuntu780> in the terminal? is there by chance a nonterminal way? I am new to linux.. and those instrhuctions are rathering confusing... he
[14:03] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, remember drag and drop in windows?  same same.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, open a terminal.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, sudo cp draganddropthesourcefilehere /usr/share/filename
[14:15] <xubuntu780> cfhowlett, i failed.
[14:16] <xubuntu780> sudo cp abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[14:16] <xubuntu780> abstract_paint is the name of the file
[14:16] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, nope.  THIS is why I said "drag and drop"
[14:16] <xubuntu780> its on my desktop so i am guessing I have to give that info as well
[14:17] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, exactly.
[14:17] <cfhowlett> DRAG AND DROP FROM THE DESKTOP
[14:17] <xubuntu780> you mean literally?
[14:17]  * cfhowlett slams face into the keyboard
[14:17] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, yes.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, on the target side, you have to specify the filename as well
[14:18] <xubuntu780> okay so not using the terminal
[14:18] <xubuntu780> i click with my cursor on the file
[14:18] <xubuntu780> and dragged it into my folder to drop
[14:19] <xubuntu780> like i do in windows. BUT the file doesn't drop in the folder and just shows an animation going back to the desktop
[14:19] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, and that not work.  Which is WHY I said "USE THE TERMINAL"
[14:20] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, It's a permissions isssue.  you get superuser/sudo permissions from your terminal.  your GUI app doesn't have those permissions
[14:20] <xubuntu780> oh man, so linux is all about memorizing commands and paths eh?
[14:21] <elfy> not at all
[14:22] <xubuntu780> i don't get how its not...
[14:22] <elfy> install gksu and run gksu-properties to make sure it's set to use sudo, then you can run gksudo thunar and have thunar with the necessary perms
[14:22] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, sudo thunar
[14:23] <xubuntu780> okay but how come this doesn't work: sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[14:23] <cfhowlett> elfy, gksudo not included in 14.o04 by default
[14:23] <elfy> I know - I didn't say use it - I said install it
[14:23] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, what is the name of the target file.  remember?  I said you need to be specific
[14:24] <xubuntu780> i have to add abstract_paint to the end of backdrops?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> backdrops is the FOLDER
[14:26] <xubuntu780> sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/abstract_paint
[14:26] <xubuntu780> cp: cannot stat ‘/home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint’: No such file or directory
[14:26] <xubuntu780> but then i get that error
[14:26] <xubuntu780> wow, i have never felt like such a noob
[14:26] <xubuntu780> lol
[14:27] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, sudo thunar
[14:27] <xubuntu780> LOL, i did. but i am determined to figure this out
[14:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, abstract_paint is an incorrect filename for a picture.     .jpg?  .png?  what?
[14:28] <xubuntu780> .jpg
[14:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, <again> COMPLETE filenames are required.
[14:28] <xubuntu780> OMG, I capitalized the "A" and the "P" in the file name i think thats the issue as well!
[14:29] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, drag and drop to the terminal = problem solved
[14:29] <xubuntu780> oh
[14:29] <xubuntu780> what do you know
[14:30] <xubuntu780> the file path... can be seen so easily. huh, _ (underscore) isn't used for spaces in the terminal?
[14:30] <patates> tilda or guake? I can't decide
[14:31] <elfy> try both and then decide - we can't decide for you
[14:31] <bazhang> patates, dont crosspost or poll
[14:31] <patates> posting in xubuntu and ubuntu is corssposting?
[14:31] <patates> cross
[14:31] <bazhang> patates, try them both, only you know
[14:32] <bazhang> patates, yes
[14:32] <patates> oh, ok, sorry about that
[14:33] <xubuntu780> so i am a little confused.
[14:34] <xubuntu780> family@FamilyHP:~$ sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/Abstract Paint.jpg /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/ cp: cannot stat ‘/home/family/Desktop/Abstract’: No such file or directory cp: cannot stat ‘Paint.jpg’: No such file or directory
[14:34] <xubuntu780> so i dragged the file into the terminal and got: family@FamilyHP:~$ '/home/family/Desktop/Abstract Paint.jpg'
[14:36] <xubuntu780> it looks exactly the same. In what i typed "abstract" and "paint" is separated by a "spacebar" but I'm not suppose to?
[14:36] <brainwash> notice the ''
[14:36] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, good.  for the target, use the single quotes and complete /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/filenamehere
[14:37] <xubuntu780> OMG
[14:37] <xubuntu780> it worked!
[14:37] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, of course it did!
[14:37] <cfhowlett> and now you know how.
[14:37] <xubuntu780> wow that simple task took over 30 minutes lol
[14:38] <xubuntu780> thank you everyone XD
[14:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, happy2help
[14:39] <patates> what was command for the output that shows os, themes, logo of os and some more.. like an about screen
[14:39] <elfy> xubuntu780: only becasue you had to learn this time - you had to learn how to use windows too ;)
[14:40] <cfhowlett> elfy, nah, everybody born after 1985 was BORN knowing Windows!
[14:40] <elfy> :)
[14:40] <xubuntu780> yeah, then I did sudo thunar. so much easier. XD
[14:41] <xubuntu780> oh "cp" stands for copy paste, right?
[14:43] <slickymasterWork> xubuntu780: take a look at http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php#cp
[14:44] <patates> found it 'screenfetch'
[14:46] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, new command to learn: man.  short for manual.
[14:46] <cfhowlett> xubuntu780, man cp
[14:52] <xubuntu149> hi everyone.  just installed Xubuntu on an HPmini, with apparently a broadcom card, and seems like there are some issues there.  Most of the posts I am finding are a couple of years old, so just in case someone here has a current, updated fix for what is going on?
[14:53] <xubuntu149> apparently my wired connection was what showed up as being used during the installation process, with my wifi never being used, but of course I installed on wifi...
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | xubuntu149
[14:56] <Gatis> !help
[14:57] <xubuntu149> system settings are showing that I am using the right driver for my device, the proprietary one from bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:57] <Gatis> that's ok
[14:58] <Gatis> I also have broadcom driver :)
[14:58] <xubuntu149> but keep getting authentication error
[14:58] <Gatis> While connecting to Wi-Fi?
[14:59] <xubuntu149> yes, and like I said, I have a feeling it has someething to do with it thinking that I used my wired connection while installing.  I deleted all network connections and restarted, and same problem
[15:00] <Gatis> unplug wired connection
[15:00] <xubuntu149> was never plugged in
[15:01] <xubuntu149> but first time I tried to troubleshoot, network manager showed as used 10 minutes ago (install)
[15:02] <Gatis> So Wi-Fi is working but can't connect to router?
[15:06] <xubuntu149> yep, constant authentication error
[15:06] <Gatis> forget Wi-fi network, disable and enable your wi-fi on your laptop
[15:06] <Gatis> restart
[15:06] <Gatis> try something like that
[15:07] <xubuntu149> where does one disable/enable?
[15:07] <xubuntu743> hi
[15:07] <xubuntu743> i was instaling latest xubutu
[15:08] <xubuntu743> and go afk
[15:08] <xubuntu743> then when i was back there was desktop
[15:08] <Gatis> nice
[15:08] <Gatis> :)
[15:08] <xubuntu743> like it was instaled fine
[15:08] <xubuntu743> but when i ejected cd
[15:08] <xubuntu743> computer hanged up
[15:08] <xubuntu743> so i restarted
[15:08] <Gatis> because you had Live CD
[15:09] <Gatis> Xubuntu booted from your CD
[15:09] <xubuntu743> but i was instaling
[15:09] <xubuntu743> normally
[15:09] <xubuntu743> not bootin live cd
[15:09] <Gatis> ok you restarted what happened?
[15:09] <xubuntu743> and now i get Invalid partition
[15:09] <xubuntu743> something like that
[15:10] <xubuntu743> invalid partition table
[15:10] <xubuntu743> and i dunno what to do :c
[15:10] <Gatis> Reinstall :)
[15:10] <xubuntu743> Why ?
[15:10] <xubuntu149> nope, same error
[15:11] <xubuntu743> i'm not alone :D
[15:11] <Gatis> xubuntu743,  try to reinstall :) what else can i say
[15:11] <xubuntu149> no, sorry 743, different problem
[15:11] <xubuntu743> fuck
[15:11] <xubuntu743> im trying to instal it 5th time -,-
[15:12] <Gatis> why 5th time?
[15:12] <xubuntu743> cuz my computer sucks and some times it hangs cuz of cd-drive which eating my cds
[15:12] <holstein> xubuntu743: test the hard drive and make sure its not failing.. and please watch your language in the channel
[15:12] <patates> install other disto, like opensuse?, if you can't install that too might br your hdd?
[15:13] <xubuntu743> there is problem in my cd-drive
[15:13] <patates> install using usb
[15:13] <xubuntu743> but that time it was going well
[15:13] <cfhowlett> xubuntu743, usb
[15:13] <xubuntu743> i cant
[15:13] <holstein> xubuntu743: then, use anothing media to install from
[15:13] <patates> netinstall?
[15:13] <cfhowlett> !netinstall
[15:13] <holstein> !Mini
[15:14] <holstein> or, you can use plop to make a CD That will point to a USB stick on legacy hardware that cant boot USB
[15:14] <Gatis> Xubunty149, try open-source driver
[15:14] <littlebit> hi people, I have here a laptop whose wlan card won't connect to a wpa2 secured wlan although I made sure that the wpa2 password is correct. Can someone help/
[15:14] <littlebit> ??
[15:14] <xubuntu743> how to make a plop ?
[15:14] <holstein> !wifi | littlebit
[15:14] <holstein> xubuntu743: i use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/
[15:15] <xubuntu743> thanks :)
[15:15] <xubuntu149> my card is not listed under the open source stuff, I have a 4313
[15:15] <holstein> xubuntu743: you can also take the hard drive to another machine that has a "better" optical drive, and install there and bring the drive back to the "bad" machine
[15:15] <xubuntu743> i had only laptop
[15:15] <holstein> !broadcom
[15:16] <Gatis> littlebit, what wireless card do you have?
[15:16] <xubuntu149> yeah, but I have the right driver installed
[15:16] <holstein> xubuntu743: im only giving you plausible options,. xubuntu/linux/ubuntu cant "fix" your broken optical drive and make it install.. or address a failing hard drive
[15:16] <xubuntu743> i now
[15:16] <xubuntu743> i will try install through internet or make plop to usb :P
[15:16] <littlebit> Gatis: It is an intel one. but the thing is that it was just working fine.
[15:16] <xubuntu743> or from harddrive
[15:17] <Gatis> check your wireless card in terminal:  "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4"
[15:18] <Gatis> xubuntu149,
[15:18] <xubuntu149> BCM4313 4727
[15:18] <xubuntu149> rev 01
[15:19] <holstein> xubuntu743: i use..
[15:19] <littlebit> Gatis: I have a intel corportion centrino wireless-n 2230
[15:19] <holstein> xubuntu743: sorry.. i meant xubuntu149
[15:19] <xubuntu743> kay xd
[15:19] <holstein> !broadcom | xubuntu149
[15:20] <holstein> xubuntu149: if you can wire up with wired internet, its drastically easier..
[15:20] <littlebit> Gatis: I have many neighbour wlans listed including my own but apparently the password seems to be wrong for some reason, altough i have checked that 3 times and it is correct
[15:21] <Gatis> littlebit, xubuntu149 has same problem :)
[15:21] <holstein> littlebit: try removing it from the list of wifi access points.. you likely entered the address incorrectly.. remove and reconnect
[15:22] <xubuntu149> drastically easier to do what?
[15:22] <holstein> littlebit: make an access point that has no encryption and test that it connects.. test the card with a supported operating system to make sure its not "broken".. i like to test with the live CD *before* installing
[15:22] <Gatis> Right click on Network icon in taskbar and chose Edit Connections and delete Wi-Fi network
[15:23] <Gatis> Well i use LXDE
[15:23] <holstein> xubuntu149: i am proposing its drastically easier to install the proprietary broadcom drivers by plugging in a wired internet connection to do so..
[15:24] <xubuntu149> but those are the drivers that are currently installed.  I think the problem is that during install, it "thinks" it used the wired connection, which was not connected
[15:24] <xubuntu149> first time start up after install, when I went into the network connections, it had wired used 10 minutes ago (install, it was never used) and wifi was never used.
[15:25] <holstein> xubuntu149: i really dont think so
[15:25] <Rosbuntu> hi
[15:25] <Rosbuntu> what cool things can i do with xubuntu
[15:26] <Rosbuntu> iv xubuntu installed
[15:26] <holstein> xubuntu149: i would just wire up, and applyy any upgrades.. make sure you are using the proprietary driver.. then, you can go through the list above if you like
[15:26] <holstein> Rosbuntu: just use it to meet your personal needs. if you have a querstion about how to do something specific, feel free to ask.. if you want to chat about it, use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. thanks! :)
[15:26] <xubuntu149> yeah, well, of course my home system is usijng wifi upstairs, and the router is downstairs, where I wont have access to any commands (and no printer)
[15:27] <Rosbuntu> okey
[15:28] <littlebit> ok this is extremely wierd. I have turned off the encryption of my router and I have noticed that the laptop still won't connect
[15:28] <Gatis> xubuntu149, try to turn off password of router
[15:29] <holstein> littlebit: then, its likely not the password, but how the chip is supporting linux.. i would try the other driver options and test
[15:30] <holstein> littlebit: these days, i have little patience for devices that dont support linux well.. i'll just physically replace them
[15:31] <Gatis> xubuntu149, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[15:37] <Gatis> xubuntu149, try: sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac
[15:40] <xubuntu149> ok, I am going to say this again, I think the problem has to do with the fact that the system showed my Wired connection as having been used.  Why do I think that?  Because I just went down to try to plug in and then realised that this netbook doesnt even have an ethernet connection
[15:40] <xubuntu149> so wiring up is not an option
[15:40] <Gatis> What laptop do you have?
[15:40] <xubuntu149> hp mini
[15:40] <xubuntu149> 110
[15:41] <Gatis> It has ethernet
[15:42] <Gatis> Check latop around
[15:42] <xubuntu149> no, it does not
[15:42] <holstein> xubuntu149: i disagree with that.. but, feel free and troubleshooot and confirm that.. it will be easier to change drivers while online via wired connection
[15:42] <Gatis> xubuntu149, check this
[15:42] <xubuntu149> maybe it came with something usb, but I dont have any of that
[15:42] <Gatis> sudo modprobe -r wl
[15:42] <xubuntu149> there is no way to wire this thing
[15:43] <Gatis> sudo modprobe brcmsmac
[15:43] <holstein> xubuntu149: ok
[15:43] <Gatis> xubuntu149, do this
[15:43] <holstein> xubuntu149: you can purchase or borrow hardware that facilitates that.. you can purchase/borrow wifi hardware that supports linux "better"
[15:43] <xubuntu149> ok, did those
[15:43] <Gatis> ok try
[15:43] <Gatis> now
[15:44] <Gatis> i messed up my broadcom drivers too
[15:45] <Gatis> i have same problem as you now
[15:45] <holstein> xubuntu149: you "did those" what?
[15:45] <xubuntu149> now I have no wifi
[15:45] <xubuntu149> those commands that gatis just posted
[15:45] <holstein> !tab
[15:47] <Gatis> xubuntu149, try this
[15:48] <Gatis> sudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac
[15:48] <Gatis> sudo modprobe brcmsmac
[15:50] <xubuntu149> got my wifi connections back, but no change in authentication, although this time I didnt get the error, it still didnt connect
[15:52] <Gatis> delete network connection
[15:52] <Gatis> and connect again enter pass
[15:52] <Gatis> maybe will help
[15:54] <Gatis> try to restart pc
[15:56] <holstein> i would do whatever it takes to wire the machine up.. then, i would apply upgrades, and reboot and test.. then, i would try the available drivers in the repo.. then, i would test the hardware to make sure its functioning properly
[15:56] <Gatis> xubuntu149, check this, there is your wireless chip mentioned: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Known_Issues
[15:57] <Gatis> Type in terminal those commands and reboot
[15:58] <xubuntu149> its functioning properly in windows, which I just blew away in order to give myself this problem, which is precisely what happens every single effing time I install linux.  I never get past this part, because its always the same story
[15:59] <xubuntu149> again, that seems to address the problem directly gatis, but I dont have a wired connection
[16:00] <holstein> xubuntu149: sure.. it is the same story for that specific hardware.. they dont support linux, and they didnt promise you linux would work
[16:00] <Gatis> xubuntu149, i think brcmsmac driver is in ubuntu by default
[16:00] <xubuntu149> every single time I have tried to install linux, which is all but once now (for a friend, of course) i've had some hardware issue.  everytime
[16:00] <holstein> xubuntu149: it can be challenging.. personally, i would wire up, and try some different drivers.. but, these days, $12us can get you a chip from a manufacturer that supports linux
[16:01] <holstein> xubuntu149: sure. you are using hardware that promises windows support. there is a sticker on the box like that
[16:01] <xubuntu149> challenging is your word, i have another word for it
[16:01] <holstein> xubuntu149: if you were to buy a machine that ships with linux, and try to put win8 on it, you might encounter the same issues... it can be a challenge to go against the grain, so to speak, on what the machine is intended to do
[16:02] <Gatis> yeah
[16:02] <Gatis> it's nice if you have new pc
[16:02] <Gatis> i think you would have no problem
[16:03] <holstein> xubuntu149: in the future i suggest reaching out to a local linux users group, or coming here *before* installing.. there are some easy things you can do to at least be prepared for installing linux and knowing the potential hassles
[16:03] <holstein> xubuntu149: all of linux/ubuntu/xubuntu is open, and broadcom is able to, and actually are trying to support them now.. but, there are some chips that are more challenging
[16:04] <holstein> there are some devices that just dont support linux at all.. and they never promised to, so, its really just the way it is...
[16:05] <Gatis> specially old devices
[16:05] <Gatis> i have old pc
[16:05] <xubuntu743> ok i booted usb by the plop on cd
[16:05] <xubuntu743> can i now eject cd ?
[16:06]  * Gatis need to reboot
[16:09] <Gatis> xubuntu149, you should restart pc after those commands
[16:11] <Gatis> sudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac | sudo modprobe brcmsmac
[16:11] <Gatis> and reboot
[16:12] <xubuntu149> module wl not found
[16:13] <Gatis> you haven't rebooted
[16:14] <Gatis> I believe you need to reboot after these commands
[16:15] <mokrates> Hi, I have a Problem with pam_mount and lightdm
[16:16] <mokrates> seems that pam_mount (which is supposed to and does mount a cifs volume) is too slow to mount that homedirectory
[16:16] <mokrates> and thus the xfce-session puts some stuff in the mountpoint and later in the mounted volume and dies
[16:16] <mokrates> uh, i use likewise-open on a 12.04
[16:17] <mokrates> anybody got an idea?
[16:17] <Gatis> i have no idea
[16:17] <Gatis> i don't know anything about pam_mount
[16:24] <holstein> xubuntu743: there will be no benefit to freeing up the optical drive, since you say its failing
[16:27] <xubuntu149> module wl not found
[16:27] <xubuntu149> probably because i did this sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:28] <xubuntu149> and I cant get the other package because I dont have any internet connection
[16:28] <Gatis> did you try sudo modprobe mrcmsmac
[16:29] <Gatis> You can also try to reinstall xubuntu :)
[16:29] <xubuntu149> module not found
[16:29] <xubuntu149> i'm going to try from the livecd, see what happens
[16:29] <Gatis> alright
[16:31] <Kevin> Hi ?
[16:31] <Gatis> hi
[16:31] <Guest1424> Could you guys help me please?
[17:18] <xubuntu149> ha, no idea what happened, but it started working.
[17:19] <xubuntu149> thanks gatis, hope to never speak with you all again ;)
[17:19] <xubuntu149> in other words, see you tomorrow probably :D
[17:21] <Gatis> xubuntu149, huh
[17:21] <Gatis> Alright :)
[17:22] <Gatis> xubuntu149, i have question
[17:22] <Gatis> DO you have apps in Menu under settings?
[17:45] <Gatis> Can anyone having Xubuntu tell me if they have apps in Menu under Settings?
[17:47] <ObrienDave> apps as in??? they're all apps
[18:09] <ObrienDave> pffffffffffft
[21:03] <xubuntu752> is there a way to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 but not switch to whiskermenu?
[21:04] <xubuntu752> or whatever the new menu is called
[21:07] <knome> xubuntu752, yes, existing user accounts will keep their configuration
[21:08] <knome> xubuntu752, you can even use the "old" application menu on new user accounts if you wish, just replace whiskermenu with the application menu applet in the panel
[21:09] <xubuntu752> knome, so it will stay the same?
[21:09] <knome> xubuntu752, as i said, existing user accounts will keep their configuration; yes, your menu will be the same menu
[21:09] <xubuntu752> knome, thanks
[21:09] <knome> unless you create a new user, but even then you can switch to the "old" menu anyway.
[21:10] <xubuntu752> i see
[21:10] <knome> they are both simply applets (or, modules) to the panel
[21:10] <knome> you can even add both to a single panel if you wish.
[21:12] <xubuntu752> knome,where would i go to change it to the old menu for a new account?
[23:24] <LazyUser69> Does anyone happen to know why the software updater in xubuntu no longer shows?
[23:25] <LazyUser69> I have the update notifier in the startup, so this is weird.
[23:26] <LazyUser69> Seems to be running...
[23:27] <LazyUser69> Because I have updates according to apt-get upgrade
[23:28] <SamwiseGamgee> test
[23:28] <LazyUser69> pong
[23:51] <arno_> how do I set xkboptions in xfce?