[02:13] How do I use OpenGL 2.0 with Xubuntu? [02:16] What is the default web browser for Xubuntu? [02:17] firefox [02:26] What is the default web browser for Xubuntu? The browser that installs on default. [02:34] Tester, firefox [02:46] folks I was using xubuntu on 16gb flash drive and recently it started giving me error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found [02:46] can some one help [02:47] xubuntu822, flash drive installations will break. frequently. plan on it. easiest fix: reinstall to the USB [02:47] i have data on it [02:48] is der a way i can get it back [02:48] it was encrypted as well [02:49] boot from a different machine. attempt to mount your USB. supply the requested encryption passwor. [03:07] Cfhowlett... Thanks for the Information....... [03:08] Tester, happy2help [03:10] I started comparing Xubuntu with Lubuntu and your info helps. I've been using Firefox for years. [03:10] firefox <3 [03:11] I thought I would try a DE that is not has heavy as KDE or Mate. [04:17] Hi [04:17] IN Whisker Menu in Setting tab i don't see any settings.. Why? [04:32] I think there is a bug in Whisker Menu [04:36] Xubuntu Whiske Menu have bugs [04:39] Gatis, bring this to #xfce [04:40] why> [04:47] Please fix Whisker menu :) Im dropping it === fallen_____ is now known as just_some_random [05:22] I did clean xubuntu install but something is wrong with menus [08:51] I'm trying to set up some iptables stuff, and to start I just want to log outgoing traffic to a file. The rules for iptables seems to be correct but the log file remains empty. What should I be checking to make this work? [09:05] mfabel, try #netfilter [09:06] Thank you. === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [11:52] Hello, is it normal that left & right window tiling dosen't work in Xubuntu??? I'm not sure if i'm the one who made a mistake:( [11:57] is it necessary to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.1? [11:57] for security, sure [11:57] and bug fixes, as well [11:58] guestmew123321, type "cat /etc/issue" [11:58] in a terminal [11:59] i guess i somehow upgraded automatically [11:59] through updates [11:59] thanks [11:59] Daves: You can turn on window tiling in System Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks -> Accessibility. Make sure "Automatically tile windows when moving toward the screen edge" is selected. [12:12] hello [12:12] greetings and welcome [12:13] my xubuntu is installing right now and i have one question [12:13] is it fully compatibile with ubunty abd debian? [12:13] not 100% debian [12:13] *ubuntu and debian [12:14] xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce instead of unity :) [12:14] Ubuntu, no problem [12:14] do you know maybe, is wineHQ for ubuntu works ok? [12:15] #winehq is a channel LimakXRobczuk [12:16] i'm fresh linux user, so sorry if i ask for something obvious ;) [12:16] not a problem [12:16] /join #winehq [12:16] ok, thanks everyone =) [12:17] most welcome and welcome to the world of Ubuntu :) [12:36] Is it me or does the erase HDD option in the installer when setting up an encrypted LVM not do anything? [12:36] Erasing a 500 GB HDD should take at least 30 minutes, but it doesn't seem to increase the install time at all. [12:37] ambutts, it does not actually erase it. quick format, iirc. takes a few seconds [12:37] I think I know what you're talking about, but there's a second option if you're doing an encrypted setup. [12:39] 'Overwrite empty disk space' or something similar. [12:40] hmm, i really don't know. never used it. (thinks encrypted drives are dangerously silly) [12:41] What makes them silly? [12:41] (Or dangerous.) [12:42] an encrypted drive is basically one giant file, afaik. the idea of losing any one sector to render the drive unreadable, is dangerous [12:42] Makes sense. [12:42] +1 [12:43] I keep backups and carry the system around, so I'm good in the event of data loss or hardware theft. [12:43] Only reason I bother, really. [12:44] makes much more sense to encrypt an archive of the sensitive info with backups [12:45] I think that good permission control is best way for safety & easy way to use data :) [13:06] hi, I need some help. I am trying to download a lexmark printer driver. I am running Xubuntu 14.04; however, it doesn't have Xubuntu listed. It does have Ubuntu listed so I was just going to download that one; is this okay? and if so, what version should I download? 10.04? 10.10? 09.04? 09.10? [13:07] xubuntu780, it will be ok. Xubuntu is Ubuntu with a different DE (Desktop Environment). I would suggest the latest driver that supports your printer [13:08] it also lists debian, debian GNU, fedora, Linux Mint, OpenSUSE, and PCLinux [13:08] xubuntu780, always use Ubuntu if you can [13:09] oh great, then I will go with Ubuntu 10.04? I assume this will be similar to my recent xubuntu version. [13:09] Thanks alot :D [13:09] * Church would rather think against drive encryption for performance reasons. Disks are already as is one of least evolving pc component. Don't want to slow down disk io subsys anymore. [13:11] thats weird when i select ubuntu 10.04. it gives me a printer driver for a debian-based packaging? is ubuntu a debian based? [13:11] yes, you should get a .deb file [13:12] OH, okay gotch [13:12] gotcha* === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [13:44] How do I set a picture from google image search to become my wallpaper? or how do I save the wallpaper file into the wallpaper folder? [13:49] Hmmmmm, by what browser???? [13:50] xubuntu780, save the image. add the image to /usr/share/backgrounds [13:51] Right click -> Save image as ... (image usually saves to Downloads folder), and that go to Download folder, and if you need replace to Images folder [13:51] This is true for Chromium [13:52] cfhowlett: possibly /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/ can't remember what 14.04 was [13:54] elfy, I'm on 14.04. that file contains shortcuts to /us/share/backgrounds [13:55] aah cool :) [13:57] cfhowlett, okay I found the folder backdrops, but i can't seem to move the file into there? I think i need root access, but how do i force root access? [13:57] xubuntu780, sudo [13:57] RedDevil, thanks, but I am trying to put the wallpapers into 1 folder :) [13:58] cfhowlett, so if i have the folder open how do i sudo? [13:58] xubuntu780, easiest way sudo cp [14:00] in the terminal? is there by chance a nonterminal way? I am new to linux.. and those instrhuctions are rathering confusing... he [14:03] xubuntu780, remember drag and drop in windows? same same. [14:03] xubuntu780, open a terminal. [14:04] xubuntu780, sudo cp draganddropthesourcefilehere /usr/share/filename === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [14:15] cfhowlett, i failed. [14:16] sudo cp abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops [14:16] abstract_paint is the name of the file [14:16] xubuntu780, nope. THIS is why I said "drag and drop" [14:16] its on my desktop so i am guessing I have to give that info as well [14:17] xubuntu780, exactly. [14:17] DRAG AND DROP FROM THE DESKTOP [14:17] you mean literally? [14:17] * cfhowlett slams face into the keyboard [14:17] xubuntu780, yes. [14:18] xubuntu780, on the target side, you have to specify the filename as well [14:18] okay so not using the terminal [14:18] i click with my cursor on the file [14:18] and dragged it into my folder to drop [14:19] like i do in windows. BUT the file doesn't drop in the folder and just shows an animation going back to the desktop [14:19] xubuntu780, and that not work. Which is WHY I said "USE THE TERMINAL" [14:20] xubuntu780, It's a permissions isssue. you get superuser/sudo permissions from your terminal. your GUI app doesn't have those permissions [14:20] oh man, so linux is all about memorizing commands and paths eh? [14:21] not at all [14:22] i don't get how its not... [14:22] install gksu and run gksu-properties to make sure it's set to use sudo, then you can run gksudo thunar and have thunar with the necessary perms [14:22] xubuntu780, sudo thunar [14:23] okay but how come this doesn't work: sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops [14:23] elfy, gksudo not included in 14.o04 by default [14:23] I know - I didn't say use it - I said install it [14:23] xubuntu780, what is the name of the target file. remember? I said you need to be specific [14:24] i have to add abstract_paint to the end of backdrops? [14:24] backdrops is the FOLDER [14:26] sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/abstract_paint [14:26] cp: cannot stat ‘/home/family/Desktop/abstract_paint’: No such file or directory [14:26] but then i get that error [14:26] wow, i have never felt like such a noob [14:26] lol [14:27] xubuntu780, sudo thunar [14:27] LOL, i did. but i am determined to figure this out [14:28] xubuntu780, abstract_paint is an incorrect filename for a picture. .jpg? .png? what? [14:28] .jpg [14:28] xubuntu780, COMPLETE filenames are required. [14:28] OMG, I capitalized the "A" and the "P" in the file name i think thats the issue as well! [14:29] xubuntu780, drag and drop to the terminal = problem solved [14:29] oh [14:29] what do you know [14:30] the file path... can be seen so easily. huh, _ (underscore) isn't used for spaces in the terminal? [14:30] tilda or guake? I can't decide [14:31] try both and then decide - we can't decide for you [14:31] patates, dont crosspost or poll [14:31] posting in xubuntu and ubuntu is corssposting? [14:31] cross [14:31] patates, try them both, only you know [14:32] patates, yes [14:32] oh, ok, sorry about that [14:33] so i am a little confused. [14:34] family@FamilyHP:~$ sudo cp /home/family/Desktop/Abstract Paint.jpg /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/ cp: cannot stat ‘/home/family/Desktop/Abstract’: No such file or directory cp: cannot stat ‘Paint.jpg’: No such file or directory [14:34] so i dragged the file into the terminal and got: family@FamilyHP:~$ '/home/family/Desktop/Abstract Paint.jpg' [14:36] it looks exactly the same. In what i typed "abstract" and "paint" is separated by a "spacebar" but I'm not suppose to? [14:36] notice the '' [14:36] xubuntu780, good. for the target, use the single quotes and complete /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/filenamehere [14:37] OMG [14:37] it worked! [14:37] xubuntu780, of course it did! [14:37] and now you know how. [14:37] wow that simple task took over 30 minutes lol [14:38] thank you everyone XD [14:38] xubuntu780, happy2help [14:39] what was command for the output that shows os, themes, logo of os and some more.. like an about screen [14:39] xubuntu780: only becasue you had to learn this time - you had to learn how to use windows too ;) [14:40] elfy, nah, everybody born after 1985 was BORN knowing Windows! [14:40] :) [14:40] yeah, then I did sudo thunar. so much easier. XD [14:41] oh "cp" stands for copy paste, right? [14:43] xubuntu780: take a look at http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php#cp [14:44] found it 'screenfetch' [14:46] xubuntu780, new command to learn: man. short for manual. [14:46] xubuntu780, man cp [14:52] hi everyone. just installed Xubuntu on an HPmini, with apparently a broadcom card, and seems like there are some issues there. Most of the posts I am finding are a couple of years old, so just in case someone here has a current, updated fix for what is going on? [14:53] apparently my wired connection was what showed up as being used during the installation process, with my wifi never being used, but of course I installed on wifi... [14:54] !broadcom | xubuntu149 [14:54] xubuntu149: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [14:56] !help [14:56] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:57] system settings are showing that I am using the right driver for my device, the proprietary one from bcmwl-kernel-source [14:57] that's ok [14:58] I also have broadcom driver :) [14:58] but keep getting authentication error [14:58] While connecting to Wi-Fi? [14:59] yes, and like I said, I have a feeling it has someething to do with it thinking that I used my wired connection while installing. I deleted all network connections and restarted, and same problem [15:00] unplug wired connection [15:00] was never plugged in [15:01] but first time I tried to troubleshoot, network manager showed as used 10 minutes ago (install) [15:02] So Wi-Fi is working but can't connect to router? [15:06] yep, constant authentication error [15:06] forget Wi-fi network, disable and enable your wi-fi on your laptop [15:06] restart [15:06] try something like that [15:07] where does one disable/enable? [15:07] hi [15:07] i was instaling latest xubutu [15:08] and go afk [15:08] then when i was back there was desktop [15:08] nice [15:08] :) [15:08] like it was instaled fine [15:08] but when i ejected cd [15:08] computer hanged up [15:08] so i restarted [15:08] because you had Live CD [15:09] Xubuntu booted from your CD [15:09] but i was instaling [15:09] normally [15:09] not bootin live cd [15:09] ok you restarted what happened? [15:09] and now i get Invalid partition [15:09] something like that [15:10] invalid partition table [15:10] and i dunno what to do :c [15:10] Reinstall :) [15:10] Why ? [15:10] nope, same error [15:11] i'm not alone :D [15:11] xubuntu743, try to reinstall :) what else can i say [15:11] no, sorry 743, different problem [15:11] fuck [15:11] im trying to instal it 5th time -,- [15:12] why 5th time? [15:12] cuz my computer sucks and some times it hangs cuz of cd-drive which eating my cds [15:12] xubuntu743: test the hard drive and make sure its not failing.. and please watch your language in the channel [15:12] install other disto, like opensuse?, if you can't install that too might br your hdd? [15:13] there is problem in my cd-drive [15:13] install using usb [15:13] but that time it was going well [15:13] xubuntu743, usb [15:13] i cant [15:13] xubuntu743: then, use anothing media to install from [15:13] netinstall? [15:13] !netinstall [15:13] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [15:13] !Mini [15:13] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [15:14] or, you can use plop to make a CD That will point to a USB stick on legacy hardware that cant boot USB [15:14] Xubunty149, try open-source driver [15:14] hi people, I have here a laptop whose wlan card won't connect to a wpa2 secured wlan although I made sure that the wpa2 password is correct. Can someone help/ [15:14] ?? [15:14] how to make a plop ? [15:14] !wifi | littlebit [15:14] littlebit: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [15:14] xubuntu743: i use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/ [15:15] thanks :) [15:15] my card is not listed under the open source stuff, I have a 4313 [15:15] xubuntu743: you can also take the hard drive to another machine that has a "better" optical drive, and install there and bring the drive back to the "bad" machine [15:15] i had only laptop [15:15] !broadcom [15:15] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [15:16] littlebit, what wireless card do you have? [15:16] yeah, but I have the right driver installed [15:16] xubuntu743: im only giving you plausible options,. xubuntu/linux/ubuntu cant "fix" your broken optical drive and make it install.. or address a failing hard drive [15:16] i now [15:16] i will try install through internet or make plop to usb :P [15:16] Gatis: It is an intel one. but the thing is that it was just working fine. [15:16] or from harddrive [15:17] check your wireless card in terminal: "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" [15:18] xubuntu149, [15:18] BCM4313 4727 [15:18] rev 01 [15:19] xubuntu743: i use.. [15:19] Gatis: I have a intel corportion centrino wireless-n 2230 [15:19] xubuntu743: sorry.. i meant xubuntu149 [15:19] kay xd [15:19] !broadcom | xubuntu149 [15:19] xubuntu149: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [15:20] xubuntu149: if you can wire up with wired internet, its drastically easier.. [15:20] Gatis: I have many neighbour wlans listed including my own but apparently the password seems to be wrong for some reason, altough i have checked that 3 times and it is correct [15:21] littlebit, xubuntu149 has same problem :) [15:21] littlebit: try removing it from the list of wifi access points.. you likely entered the address incorrectly.. remove and reconnect [15:22] drastically easier to do what? [15:22] littlebit: make an access point that has no encryption and test that it connects.. test the card with a supported operating system to make sure its not "broken".. i like to test with the live CD *before* installing [15:22] Right click on Network icon in taskbar and chose Edit Connections and delete Wi-Fi network [15:23] Well i use LXDE [15:23] xubuntu149: i am proposing its drastically easier to install the proprietary broadcom drivers by plugging in a wired internet connection to do so.. [15:24] but those are the drivers that are currently installed. I think the problem is that during install, it "thinks" it used the wired connection, which was not connected [15:24] first time start up after install, when I went into the network connections, it had wired used 10 minutes ago (install, it was never used) and wifi was never used. [15:25] xubuntu149: i really dont think so [15:25] hi [15:25] what cool things can i do with xubuntu [15:26] iv xubuntu installed [15:26] xubuntu149: i would just wire up, and applyy any upgrades.. make sure you are using the proprietary driver.. then, you can go through the list above if you like [15:26] Rosbuntu: just use it to meet your personal needs. if you have a querstion about how to do something specific, feel free to ask.. if you want to chat about it, use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. thanks! :) [15:26] yeah, well, of course my home system is usijng wifi upstairs, and the router is downstairs, where I wont have access to any commands (and no printer) [15:27] okey [15:28] ok this is extremely wierd. I have turned off the encryption of my router and I have noticed that the laptop still won't connect [15:28] xubuntu149, try to turn off password of router [15:29] littlebit: then, its likely not the password, but how the chip is supporting linux.. i would try the other driver options and test [15:30] littlebit: these days, i have little patience for devices that dont support linux well.. i'll just physically replace them [15:31] xubuntu149, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211 [15:37] xubuntu149, try: sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac [15:40] ok, I am going to say this again, I think the problem has to do with the fact that the system showed my Wired connection as having been used. Why do I think that? Because I just went down to try to plug in and then realised that this netbook doesnt even have an ethernet connection [15:40] so wiring up is not an option [15:40] What laptop do you have? [15:40] hp mini [15:40] 110 [15:41] It has ethernet [15:42] Check latop around [15:42] no, it does not [15:42] xubuntu149: i disagree with that.. but, feel free and troubleshooot and confirm that.. it will be easier to change drivers while online via wired connection [15:42] xubuntu149, check this [15:42] maybe it came with something usb, but I dont have any of that [15:42] sudo modprobe -r wl [15:42] there is no way to wire this thing [15:43] sudo modprobe brcmsmac [15:43] xubuntu149: ok [15:43] xubuntu149, do this [15:43] xubuntu149: you can purchase or borrow hardware that facilitates that.. you can purchase/borrow wifi hardware that supports linux "better" [15:43] ok, did those [15:43] ok try [15:43] now [15:44] i messed up my broadcom drivers too [15:45] i have same problem as you now [15:45] xubuntu149: you "did those" what? [15:45] now I have no wifi [15:45] those commands that gatis just posted [15:45] !tab [15:45] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [15:47] xubuntu149, try this [15:48] sudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac [15:48] sudo modprobe brcmsmac [15:50] got my wifi connections back, but no change in authentication, although this time I didnt get the error, it still didnt connect [15:52] delete network connection [15:52] and connect again enter pass [15:52] maybe will help [15:54] try to restart pc [15:56] i would do whatever it takes to wire the machine up.. then, i would apply upgrades, and reboot and test.. then, i would try the available drivers in the repo.. then, i would test the hardware to make sure its functioning properly [15:56] xubuntu149, check this, there is your wireless chip mentioned: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Known_Issues [15:57] Type in terminal those commands and reboot [15:58] its functioning properly in windows, which I just blew away in order to give myself this problem, which is precisely what happens every single effing time I install linux. I never get past this part, because its always the same story [15:59] again, that seems to address the problem directly gatis, but I dont have a wired connection [16:00] xubuntu149: sure.. it is the same story for that specific hardware.. they dont support linux, and they didnt promise you linux would work [16:00] xubuntu149, i think brcmsmac driver is in ubuntu by default [16:00] every single time I have tried to install linux, which is all but once now (for a friend, of course) i've had some hardware issue. everytime [16:00] xubuntu149: it can be challenging.. personally, i would wire up, and try some different drivers.. but, these days, $12us can get you a chip from a manufacturer that supports linux [16:01] xubuntu149: sure. you are using hardware that promises windows support. there is a sticker on the box like that [16:01] challenging is your word, i have another word for it [16:01] xubuntu149: if you were to buy a machine that ships with linux, and try to put win8 on it, you might encounter the same issues... it can be a challenge to go against the grain, so to speak, on what the machine is intended to do [16:02] yeah [16:02] it's nice if you have new pc [16:02] i think you would have no problem [16:03] xubuntu149: in the future i suggest reaching out to a local linux users group, or coming here *before* installing.. there are some easy things you can do to at least be prepared for installing linux and knowing the potential hassles [16:03] xubuntu149: all of linux/ubuntu/xubuntu is open, and broadcom is able to, and actually are trying to support them now.. but, there are some chips that are more challenging [16:04] there are some devices that just dont support linux at all.. and they never promised to, so, its really just the way it is... [16:05] specially old devices [16:05] i have old pc [16:05] ok i booted usb by the plop on cd [16:05] can i now eject cd ? [16:06] * Gatis need to reboot [16:09] xubuntu149, you should restart pc after those commands [16:11] sudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac | sudo modprobe brcmsmac [16:11] and reboot [16:12] module wl not found [16:13] you haven't rebooted [16:14] I believe you need to reboot after these commands [16:15] Hi, I have a Problem with pam_mount and lightdm [16:16] seems that pam_mount (which is supposed to and does mount a cifs volume) is too slow to mount that homedirectory [16:16] and thus the xfce-session puts some stuff in the mountpoint and later in the mounted volume and dies [16:16] uh, i use likewise-open on a 12.04 [16:17] anybody got an idea? [16:17] i have no idea [16:17] i don't know anything about pam_mount [16:24] xubuntu743: there will be no benefit to freeing up the optical drive, since you say its failing [16:27] module wl not found [16:27] probably because i did this sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source [16:28] and I cant get the other package because I dont have any internet connection [16:28] did you try sudo modprobe mrcmsmac [16:29] You can also try to reinstall xubuntu :) [16:29] module not found [16:29] i'm going to try from the livecd, see what happens [16:29] alright [16:31] Hi ? [16:31] hi === Kevin is now known as Guest1424 [16:31] Could you guys help me please? [17:18] ha, no idea what happened, but it started working. [17:19] thanks gatis, hope to never speak with you all again ;) [17:19] in other words, see you tomorrow probably :D [17:21] xubuntu149, huh [17:21] Alright :) [17:22] xubuntu149, i have question [17:22] DO you have apps in Menu under settings? === WLM is now known as WLM|flashbulbeye [17:45] Can anyone having Xubuntu tell me if they have apps in Menu under Settings? [17:47] apps as in??? they're all apps [18:09] pffffffffffft === WLM|flashbulbeye is now known as WLM === nuptse_ is now known as Zboonet [21:03] is there a way to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 but not switch to whiskermenu? [21:04] or whatever the new menu is called [21:07] xubuntu752, yes, existing user accounts will keep their configuration [21:08] xubuntu752, you can even use the "old" application menu on new user accounts if you wish, just replace whiskermenu with the application menu applet in the panel [21:09] knome, so it will stay the same? [21:09] xubuntu752, as i said, existing user accounts will keep their configuration; yes, your menu will be the same menu [21:09] knome, thanks [21:09] unless you create a new user, but even then you can switch to the "old" menu anyway. [21:10] i see [21:10] they are both simply applets (or, modules) to the panel [21:10] you can even add both to a single panel if you wish. [21:12] knome,where would i go to change it to the old menu for a new account? [23:24] Does anyone happen to know why the software updater in xubuntu no longer shows? [23:25] I have the update notifier in the startup, so this is weird. [23:26] Seems to be running... [23:27] Because I have updates according to apt-get upgrade [23:28]