[01:10] <liuxg> I am now using virtualbox with 3D accelerated, however, I am now experiencing the error "libGL error: core dri or dri2 extension not found". Does anyone know any solution to this?
[03:12] <nops> hi everybody
[03:17] <nops> I need know if somebody already start to porting to Galaxy W GT - I8150
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> nops: check the XDA forums
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> !devices
[03:26] <thelionroars> it seems there's no sound recording app available yet
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> thelionroars: rough edges need to be fixed on touch indeed
[03:28] <thelionroars> oh, I was hoping I'd missed it :P
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> thelionroars: wich device you testing on?
[03:28] <thelionroars> I guess I'd better learn Go and QML
[03:28] <thelionroars> Nexus 4
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> nexus7 here
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> you also have the brightness problem on n4?
[03:29] <thelionroars> I have a 2012 nexus 7, still on Android with that obviously
[03:30] <thelionroars> can you explain the brightness problem? I haven't noticed anything
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> well when i set brightness 100%, after reboot it sets back to default darkness
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> so i need to change it back to 100% ever time
[03:30] <thelionroars> I don't think I've tried changing it yet
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> its bit annyoing
[03:34] <thelionroars> yes, looks like it reset after a reboot
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> thelionroars: tnx for checking
[03:35] <thelionroars> np
[06:04] <dholbach> good morning
[06:11] <thelionroars> morning
[08:41] <OrokuSaki> Uhh... soo... I just got done messing with Sailfish porting.
[08:41] <OrokuSaki> Well almost done
[08:42] <OrokuSaki> I asked stskeeps if the actual. REAL... CM11 system partition (unmodified) should be mounted, and he said YES
[08:42] <OrokuSaki> in otherwords, we don't have to recompile with SailFish porting and Hybris
[08:42] <mardy> pitti: hi! Do you know if it's possible to have autopilot watch two different processes in the same test?
[08:42] <OrokuSaki> ITS AWESOME!!!!!
[08:42] <OrokuSaki> no bionic patches
[08:42] <pitti> mardy: hey!
[08:43] <pitti> mardy: I've never seen that; I'm not sure (thomi/veebers would know), but I doubt it
[08:43] <OrokuSaki> Ubuntu Touch should take a gander at the latest Sailfish porting efforts, all I am saying. Now I put this to rest.
[08:43] <pitti> mardy: shouldn't be too hard to try with a toy test, just launch two different apps and see if you can select stuff?
[08:44] <OrokuSaki> Well that and they seem to use the /data partition with android.. but the rootfs is inside of a hidden folder.. so it conincides with android
[08:44] <OrokuSaki> Okay
[08:44] <OrokuSaki> I am done =)
[08:45] <OrokuSaki> no lxc container.. okay okay. =)
[09:01] <xhustlerx93> Can anybody help me real quick?
[09:04] <ogra_> OrokuSaki, sailfish isnt designed to run the same setup on servers, desktops or internet-of-things devices so they indeed do not need to isolate anything in a container ... this is the base of our convergence story ...
[09:09] <ogra_> oSoMoN, yo ... so i was wondering why i get like 20 location popups every time i open the browser afresh ... turns out that there were 20 tabs open that i didnt even notice (every time i clicked an external link in a webapp it opened a new one but indeed didnt close it and i wasnt aware they dont close)
[09:10] <ogra_> oSoMoN, i think we need something that shows you the number of open tabs somewhere in the UI, davmor2 was trapped by a similar thing (not noticing the amount of stuff open in the bg)
[09:10] <oSoMoN> ogra_, ha, interesting, I guess this would be (at least partially) solved by https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1358599, which is my priority of the day
[09:11] <ogra_> oSoMoN, and well ... only having one location request instead of one-per-tab would be nice :)
[09:11] <ogra_> oSoMoN, hah, wow, always ahead of the moaners :)
[09:11] <oSoMoN> hehe
[09:11] <davmor2> oSoMoN: yeah I had like 10-12 tabs open, gplus had restarted in the background and the web page was blank
[09:12] <oSoMoN> ogra_, also, there’s a plan to make webbrowser-app run confined, at which point the location permission requests will be handled by the trust store, which has a mechanism to remember your choice and not ask for permission over and over again
[09:13] <ogra_> yeah
[09:13] <ogra_> then i'll refrain from filing a bug
[09:13] <user___> hi everyone
[09:14] <oSoMoN> ogra_, feel free to comment on bug #1358599 to explain the situation with permission requests, that’s a valid point that I hadn’t considered indeed
[09:14] <user___> how to install ubuntu 12.04.1
[09:15] <user___> clean install on laptop
[09:15] <ogra_> user___, this channel is for phones .... try #ubuntu
[09:16] <sil2100> Wellark: hey!
[09:30] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Humanitarian Day! :-D
[10:23] <WebVisitor-0> hi i'm looking for information about all the possibily of tactical commands or usage
[10:25] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Q: We need a phone, and I would like to have Ubuntu. When can I expect an Ubuntu phone available for end-users (who have no idea about computers, etc.)?
[10:27] <ogra_> Multbrelch, well, the two phones that will be released before end of the year will mostly target developers ... endusers shoudl be able to use them but the app store will still be rather empty
[10:27] <ogra_> not sure if your endusers expect a huge amount of apps
[10:28] <ogra_> i.e. if you are highly depending on something like whatsapp ... that doesnt exist yet ...
[10:29] <ogra_> beyond that both devices will be "enduser usable" just fine when they come out within the next months
[10:29] <Multbrelch> we need: 1. calling people of course, 2. a email app, 3. skype, 4. a picture taking app, ...
[10:29] <ogra_> no skype
[10:29] <Multbrelch> no?
[10:29] <Multbrelch> why?
[10:29] <ogra_> the rest is there indeed
[10:29] <Multbrelch> will skype come in at some point?
[10:30] <Multbrelch> next year in August for instance?
[10:30] <tbr> skype usually wants €€€ for integration IIRC
[10:30] <ogra_> because microsoft didnt provide any skype for ubuntu touch yet
[10:30] <ogra_> tbr, as whatsapp does :)
[10:30] <Multbrelch> wow!
[10:30] <ogra_> and usually not a smll amount
[10:30] <tbr> with whatsapp it's easier, as there are enough open source clones
[10:30] <ogra_> not anymore
[10:31] <Multbrelch> okay - what about an app, which allows using GPS and maps (during driving in a car)?
[10:31] <ogra_> they had them removed everywhere (github et.al) and sued the ones that didnt want to remove riht before geting sold to facebook
[10:31] <ogra_> (whatsapp that is)
[10:31] <ogra_> there was a major cleanup
[10:32] <ogra_> "cleanup"
[10:32] <ogra_> :)
[10:32] <ogra_> Multbrelch, there are mapping apps, but no real turn by turn navigation yet ... there will be nokia here maps support, not sure how well that supports turn-by-turn
[10:33] <Multbrelch> okay, thanks ogra_
[10:33] <tbr> ogra_: the sailfish clone is alive and kicking
[10:33] <ogra_> i am pretty sure by next year august the situation will be a lot better ... but i wouldnt expect the big paid service bits like skype or whatsapp yet
[10:33] <Multbrelch> So, sin summary, we can expect something "solid" for the enduser in, may be, 2 to 3 years. Is that right?
[10:33] <tbr> ogra_: they just removed the name as they were arguing over "brand name"
[10:33] <ogra_> tbr, oh, wow ... we should get it ported :)
[10:34] <ogra_> i heard they also argued over protocol use
[10:35] <Multbrelch> Amongst you guys, what would you take: an I_OS or Microsoft or Android-Google based phone?
[10:35] <Multbrelch> Anyway, thanks for kind help and info .... long live Ubuntu!
[10:41]  * ogra_ uses an ubuntu phone exclusively since 6 months ... i wouldnt want any other anymore ;) 
[10:42] <vitimiti> Where can I buy one through the net? I really want to start trying them
[10:43] <ogra_> before end of the year ... there is no exact date yet
[10:44] <ogra_> "soon" is the best i can tell you :)
[10:44] <t1mp> !devices
[10:44] <t1mp> vitimiti: if you want one now, check the devices on this list^ but you'll have to install it yourself
[10:44] <ogra_> right, you can try it oout on a nexus device or on one for the other ports
[10:44] <vitimiti> Ok, I don't have any of those phones, I'll wait
[11:01] <Multbrelch> Me again, Q: When I get an Ubuntu-touch based phone at the end of this year, do I have also a device, which is also a PC desktop device when connected to a screen and keyboard+mouse? <= I remember that this was once the ultimate goalof Ubuntu
[11:02] <davmor2> Multbrelch: no that will come latter when we have a full unity8 desktop as then it will have the same code base
[11:03] <Multbrelch> davmor2, when will this be the case, next year?
[11:03] <Chipaca> dbarth: news wrt symbolic icons?
[11:07] <davmor2> Multbrelch: asap, it has already begun but is more the tablet interface on a desktop currently, this will steadily progress over time
[11:10] <Multbrelch> davmor2, thanks
[12:16] <dbarth> Chipaca: hi
[12:16] <dbarth> Chipaca: nope, pinging back matthieu
[12:17] <dbarth> Chipaca: actually yes; those are not theme icons, they belong to their respective click package
[12:19] <ralsina> sil2100: question, not sure if you are the right person...  I did a branch to add qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-push-plugin to the ubuntu touch seed but it's not in the #200 image, am I missing a step?
[12:40] <alok__> hi
[12:40] <alok__> after flashing ubuntu touch ..
[12:40] <alok__> I got below errors..
[12:40] <alok__> any idea  what caused this..
[12:41] <alok__> i posted Question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/511259/error-after-flashing-the-new-image
[12:42] <alok__> If anyone can help me..it would be a great help for me..
[12:42] <alok__> thanks
[12:49] <ogra_> alok__, erm, why didnt you follow the flashing instructions ... that can never work
[12:49] <ogra_> use ubuntu-device-flash
[12:51] <ogra_> alok__, http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/  has the official install instructions
[13:00] <seb128> mardy, thanks for updating the icons code, do you just plan to follow the same logic that the storage panel or to do something else?
[13:01] <mardy> seb128: I don't think it makes a big difference in practice, but I just pushed a commit to follow the same logic as the storage panel
[13:01] <mardy> seb128: feel free to re-review (it's just a couple of lines changed)
[13:02] <seb128> mardy, yeah, same, I think it basically lead to the same result because only one of the cases can match, thanks
[13:02] <seb128> mardy, thanks, approved it
[13:09] <mardy> \o/
[13:11] <Wellark> sil2100: what's up?
[13:14] <kenvandine> jgdx, did you try out my libqofono debs?
[13:19] <tedg> cjwatson, Talking with mzanetti about click user hooks. It would be helpful if they knew about the dbus session bus for the session they're in, but apparently they don't. Is there a reason for that?
[13:19] <ogra_> it should be in the env of the session
[13:19] <mzanetti> tedg: well, as I said, it kinda makes sense, because there could be multiple sessions running
[13:20] <mzanetti> tedg: In which case I'd need to inform all instances of unity
[13:20] <ogra_> would a user hook run outside of the context of the installing user ?
[13:21] <tedg> mzanetti, I don't that lightdm will really let that happen. Probably not impossible, but I imagine most things would break.
[13:26] <cjwatson> tedg: They should do; they're run from the user's upstart session
[13:26] <mterry> bregma, I think I have the real fix for the PAM problem
[13:26] <seb128> mterry, \o/
[13:26] <cjwatson> tedg: And the job in question is "start on starting xsession-init and started dbus" expressly to ensure that dbus is up
[13:26] <tedg> cjwatson, Is that when the click-user-hook's task is run or when something is installed while teh session is running?
[13:27] <mterry> seb128, :)
[13:27] <bregma> mterry, have you tested it on a real desktop installation?
[13:27] <mterry> bregma, yes, briefly on mine, but I want to confirm with yours if you have a moment.  Let me clean up branch and push it
[13:27]  * bregma stands by waiting for a merge URL
[13:28] <cjwatson> tedg: Oh, the installation happens on the other end of PackageKit, so that might be fiddly
[13:28] <cjwatson> tedg: We might need to figure out how to trigger that job in the right way rather than executing the hooks directly
[13:29] <tedg> cjwatson, Yeah, I think that makes sense, and is probably the case that they're triggering.
[13:29] <cjwatson> tedg: I'm not going to have time to look at this until September though (RTM branching, writing debconf talk, debconf ...)
[13:29] <cjwatson> tedg: I don't know if mvo_ has cycles for it
[13:30] <tedg> cjwatson, Does he run on spinach by chance? :-)
[13:31] <tedg> Hmm, okay.
[13:31] <tedg> So we're talking about other solutions as well.
[13:31] <tedg> But I do think we need to make them run the same no matter how the hooks are queued up.
[13:31] <mvo_> tedg, cjwatson: I'm in a similar situation as cjwatson, finishing click signatures, writing debconf talk, debconf...)
[13:33] <tedg> Debconf has gotten in my way more than once this week. I'm voting to cancel it :-)
[13:35] <cjwatson> In the horrible-hack category: since it's generally safe to run hooks multiple times (they're required to be idempotent and run in catch-up-with-system-state mode), unity-scope-click could run user hooks after installing a package, and the hook in question could just quietly bail out if it doesn't have dbus
[13:36] <cjwatson> The former part would just be a call to "click hook run-user"
[13:37] <cjwatson> Not pretty, but fairly contained, and would work I think
[13:37] <cjwatson> Worst case ought to be that it slows down installation a bit
[13:37] <mterry> bregma, seb128: if you don't mind trying lp:~mterry/unity8/dismiss-old-pam-prompts ?  (this has a fix for both the bug with stopping old PAM conversations as well as a fix for starting two conversations in the first place -- to properly test the former, I can show you how to disable the latter)
[13:38] <mterry> bregma, seb128: specifically, do: bzr diff -c 1179 | patch -R -p0
[13:38] <seb128> mterry, can I just test that it let me log in? ;-)
[13:38] <mterry> seb128, yes you could do that too I suppose  :)
[13:41] <seb128> mterry, k, doing that
[13:47] <mterry> bregma, well that was a good tactic -- propose a workaround to force me to investigate further  ;)  But seriously, thanks for finding out that it was the two PAM prompts right after each other causing the problem
[13:50] <cjwatson> mzanetti: see my comments headed "in the horrible-hack category" for the only thing I can immediately think of that could be done quickly
[13:52] <jhodapp> popey: did you notice mp3 seeking is fixed in the music-app? :)
[13:53] <jhodapp> popey: with 199
[13:53] <popey> i did not!
[13:53] <mzanetti> cjwatson: ok... not entirely sure I understand... so this would require the click scope to manually call the hook after installation/removal/upgrade, right?
[13:53] <mzanetti> I guess if we're going for the hack category, I would probably just find the session through the upstart session file
[13:53] <kenvandine> jgdx, did you look into the problem i had with your call-fwd-wait-dual-sim branch?
[13:53] <jhodapp> popey: also doesn't chew through memory when seeking anymore
[13:53] <popey> nice!
[13:53] <popey> \o/
[13:54] <jhodapp> I'll put up a G+ post so people know it's working again
[13:54] <cjwatson> mzanetti: that was what I was thinking, yes
[13:54] <cjwatson> mzanetti: since the click scope is running in the user's session so it just needs to run that one command
[13:55] <mzanetti> cjwatson: ok... but it would break on manual click install runs I gues
[13:55] <cjwatson> mzanetti: I don't know if that's better or worse than you hacking around with the upstart session file.  One thing to consider is that you wouldn't have to port it to systemd later :)
[13:55] <cjwatson> (if we haven't fixed it properly by then)
[13:55] <mzanetti> right, I see
[13:55] <cjwatson> mzanetti: manual pkcon install-local at least, yes, true
[13:56] <cjwatson> mzanetti: though we could tell people to run click hook run-user in that case ...
[13:56] <mzanetti> cjwatson: ok... I see. Will evaluate possibilites we have with Saviq and see where we go. thanks
[13:56] <cjwatson> ok, good luck
[13:56] <mzanetti> chers
[13:56] <mzanetti> +e
[14:16] <charles> nik90, ping
[14:19] <charles> nik90, the grey-on-aubergine color scheme in the clock app's menu is very hard to read outdoors:
[14:19] <charles> nik90, http://i.imgur.com/mBfawzc.jpg
[14:20] <popey> charles: thats the old clock which will be replaced soon by the one called "clock reboot" which is in the store for your pleasure
[14:20] <charles> ooo
[14:20]  * charles looks
[14:22] <ogra_> shiny !
[14:22] <ogra_> :)
[14:23] <charles> so that's landing this week?
[14:23] <nik90> charles: it will land with/after the next promoted image
[14:24] <charles> I saw in #phablet that 200 is building as we speak
[14:24] <nik90> charles: most likely we will be going into Traincon0 mode today or tomorrow looking at the current situation
[14:24] <popey> #200 should be built in ~30 mins
[14:24] <davmor2> charles: it was landing yesterday with the promoted image according to nik90 the end of last week :D  I did try to lower his hopes but he seemed so optimistic
[14:25] <nik90> davmor2: actually I have come to accept this situation. I am meanwhile fixing some UX bugs that were brought by up design and other stuff.
[14:27] <davmor2> charles: see how do keep someone like nik90 down, your not landing that, okay I'll fix things instead.  The guy is crazy ;)
[14:27] <om26er> I cannot download image update on 3G. whats the problem with that ?
[14:27] <ogra_> did you select to only download on wifi in the settings perhaps `
[14:27] <ogra_> ?
[14:28] <charles> davmor2, :-)
[14:28] <davmor2> om26er: switch Auto download to on any data connection
[14:29] <davmor2> nik90: does that mean the clock reboot is gonna be shinier?
[14:30] <om26er> davmor2, thanks will try that.
[14:30] <nik90> davmor2: more reliable is what I am aiming at
[14:31] <ogra_> it is definitely more reliable than the lock screen and indicator atm :P
[14:31] <ogra_> goal reached ... i'd say
[14:31] <davmor2> hahahaha ogra_ nice
[14:31] <nik90> lol
[14:35] <cwayne> tvoss|test, ping
[14:36] <jgdx> kenvandine, yes and no
[14:36] <tvoss> cwayne, how can I help?
[14:37] <jgdx> kenvandine, I want to test the packages with packages from my branch fixing the sim removal issue
[14:37] <pitti> bzoltan1: hey! would you mind to re-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/qt-deps/+merge/229896 ? tests seem to be a bit flakey, so the latest run failed
[14:37] <pitti> bzoltan1: re-approving will re-trigger the testing, right?
[14:37] <jgdx> kenvandine, which are still building
[14:37] <kenvandine> jgdx, ok
[14:38] <kenvandine> jgdx, just let me know :)
[14:38] <jgdx> kenvandine, will do :) come to think of it, I can test them now
[14:40] <cwayne> tvoss, ah nm, sorry
[14:52] <nik90> kgunn: ping
[14:53] <mterry> mpt, in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Locking you have the setting "When locked, allow notifications and quick settings" -- I believe the intent there is at least the indicators being able to be pulled down.  But by notifications, do you also mean popup notifications?
[14:53] <mpt> mterry, no, just the Notification Center
[14:53] <kgunn> nik90: yes?
[14:53] <mterry> mpt, OK, so you don't mean indicators there
[14:54] <mpt> mterry, I mean indicators and only indicators
[14:54] <nik90> kgunn: in your unity8 update email, you mention critical bug fixes for the datetime indicator. Has that been fixed?
[14:54] <nik90> kgunn: or is it a wip?
[14:54] <mterry> mpt, ah ok -- not used to the phrase Notification Center  :)
[14:54] <nik90> kgunn: I think since #189, the indicator-datetime has been blank for all of us. I am hoping that issue has been resolved :)
[15:00] <kgunn> nik90: gotta mp under review...hope it'll be soon, now linked to the bug
[15:01] <kgunn> it's a dup of the other "outta sync clock/date" bug
[15:01] <nik90> cool
[15:01] <nik90> thnx
[15:06] <beuno> mvo_, did you manage to get signed packages verified?
[15:38] <bzoltan1> pitti:  yes, but there is a super long queue  of UITK MRs right now
[15:38] <seb128> kenvandine, can you help getting stuff on http://paste.ubuntu.com/8089827/ approved?
[15:40] <ogra_> bzoltan1, heh, good, that will immediately get us back into traincon-0 next week then :P
[15:40]  * ogra_ thinks for the V series we need to find a way to do more fluid landings that dont always get us to traincon-0 
[15:41] <ogra_> (and make other stuff pile up that *again* gets us into that state immediately after)
[15:42] <pitti> pstolowski, pete-woods: I see you are landing a large number of branches for the department key
[15:43] <pitti> pstolowski, pete-woods: as we are short on silos and resource usage is high, would you mind folding in a bunch of similar MPs from me? (adding X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: to debian/control, purely mechanical; see https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg08566.html)
[15:44] <ogra_> pitti, traincon-0 is immenent ... and we cant build images atm due to a util-linux issue it seems ... dont count on being able to land that quickly
[15:45] <ogra_> (this is the most blocking combo of issues we can have btw)
[15:45] <kenvandine> seb128, i approved messaging-app and telephony-service
[15:45] <pitti> ogra_: it's not that urgent, but as I got a resounding zero response from my request to fold these into regular MPs two months ago I just finally prepared the lot today to avoid forgetting about it
[15:46] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks, do you know somebody to ping for the lens ones?
[15:46] <pitti> ogra_: ack
[15:46] <ogra_> pitti, two months !
[15:46] <pitti> ogra_: yeah, yay (not!) for not having proper trunks :(
[15:46] <pete-woods> pitti: I think those MRs are probably stale now, unfortunately
[15:46] <ogra_> we definitely need to sell a lot of phones and quickly raise the headcount !!!
[15:46] <kenvandine> i added +1s on the others, but don't feel good about top approving them
[15:46] <pitti> pete-woods: you mean your's? (I created mine like 10 mins ago)
[15:46] <pete-woods> pitti: yeah, I mean mine
[15:47] <bzoltan1> ogra_:  fast testing framework would help
[15:47] <pitti> pete-woods: ah, ok
[15:47] <kenvandine> seb128, not sure who
[15:47] <pitti> pete-woods: so then nevermind, I'll land them in a silo of their own then
[15:47] <ogra_> bzoltan1, we would have it if we had people with spare time to improve it
[15:47] <bzoltan1> ogra_: running the full UITK test suite still takes ages
[15:47] <pete-woods> pitti: okay, cool
[15:47] <ogra_> bzoltan1, yeah ... you got the most tests of all suites
[15:47] <bzoltan1> ogra_:  Yes, sadly that is the truth. I know...
[15:48] <ogra_> could you probably split that into smaller chunks and have multiple suites ?
[15:48] <ogra_> so that devs landing stuff only need to run the tests for their specific area
[15:48] <pitti> kenvandine: ah, thanks; seems I can't self-approve the scope ones
[15:52] <bzoltan1> ogra_: that is a good idea actually.
[15:52] <ogra_> topic based tests ;)
[16:06] <Ririshi> A very good evening
[16:07] <jgdx> kenvandine, new call fwd/wait debs being built by jenkins.
[16:08] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx
[16:09] <Ririshi> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 5 using the dual boot app... thing is: there's no channel for the N5. Is it possible to add the system-image.tasemnice.eu server as server manually?
[16:11] <ogra_> Ririshi, i think the multirom install can handle that ... you just missed Tassadar who is the maintainer of the tasemnice.eu server and of multirom ...
[16:11] <ogra_> probably wait til he returns
[16:12] <Ririshi> oh...
[16:12] <jgdx> kenvandine, I had to make the ofono dbusmock template local for this and the branch that fixes 1357393. /cc pitti
[16:13] <pitti> jgdx: hm, that template fix should be in utopic now?
[16:15] <jgdx> pitti, it's a new issue related to how libqofono works wrt SimManager's present property. If the 'org.ofono.SimManager' is not an interface on the modem, it's not taken into account in libqofono. See https://github.com/nemomobile/libqofono/blob/master/src/qofonosimmanager.cpp#L111
[16:16] <jgdx> pitti, and adding the interface later causes dbus to hang. I do not understand why (maybe because it's readonly?), but I can reproduce it consistently.
[16:19] <jgdx> pitti, I'll expand the template with a simmanager mock.
[16:32] <Laney> jhodapp: do you think you could test gst-bad 1.4 (+ platform-api) from ppa:laney/arm please?
[17:04] <jhodapp> Laney: sure
[18:15] <pitti> jibel, ogra_: btw, did you notice that the clock in the indicator never updates on latest image?
[18:16] <ogra_> pitti, yup, charles is working on it
[18:16] <pitti> just spotted it, haven't filed a bug yet or anything, I was just about to run out
[18:16] <pitti> ogra_: ah great, danke
[18:16] <ogra_> wow, it is broken since last week :)
[18:16] <ogra_> you only spotted it now ?
[18:16] <charles> ogra_, no, it's not an indicator-datetime bug, dednick is looking at it
[18:16] <ogra_> ah, well, *smoeone* is fixing it :)
[18:17] <pitti> ogra_: well, I don't usually stare at that thing for extended time periods, and I boot back and forth often :)
[18:17] <ogra_> charles, seems we clearly can drop that indicator ... pitti didnt notice it is broken
[18:17] <ogra_> :)
[18:17] <pitti> ogra_: I'm really looking forward to that caldav/carddav project to sync with owncloud, then I can use it for longer times
[18:17] <charles> ogra_, that's good news, I can drop the 'snooze' feature for alarms then :-)
[18:17] <ogra_> haha
[18:18] <dobey> my alarms have auto-snooze already
[18:18] <ogra_> pitti, it is quite useful with gcal already
[18:18] <dobey> since they just never go off :)
[18:18] <charles> *sigh* :-)
[18:18]  * ogra_ has harps before every meeting ... 
[18:19] <ogra_> unstoppable harps if i have two meetings at the same time ...
[18:19] <dobey> the gcal feature is actually not so useful for me. it doesn't let you choose which calendars to have. you only get the default calendar for the account :-/
[18:19] <ogra_> if we ever change that tone again i'll never go to a meeting ... i'm so used to have a harp concert first :)(
[18:19] <charles> ogra_, give one of your harps to dobey and problem solved
[18:20] <ogra_> :)
[18:20] <dobey> unstoppable harps for an immovable meeting?
[18:20] <charles> ogra_, I have the two-alarms-at-once on my TODO on my whiteboard, but I'm not seeing it in launchpad... dyk if there's a ticket for it that I'm not seeing?
[18:21] <ogra_> charles, i think either popey or davmor2 filed a bug for it, yeah
[18:22]  * dobey wonders how to set a custom mp3 as the sms tone
[18:24] <dobey> also
[18:25] <dobey> does anyone know how to add attributes for search results in a scope, in c++?
[18:25] <popey> charles: i did, butr i can't find it
[18:26] <popey> found it!
[18:26] <popey> charles: bug 1354406
[18:26] <popey> hehe, you set it to invalid a few days ago
[18:27] <charles> popey, yeah based on MacSlow's comment about it being a unity-notifications bug... but
[18:27] <charles> that wouldn't solve the dual-harps issue
[18:28] <charles> I think this might be two bugs for the price of one
[18:28] <charles> reopening :)
[18:28] <jhodapp> Laney: your PPA seems to test just fine for me
[18:28] <jhodapp> Laney: thanks for checking with me before trying to land it :)
[18:41] <davmor2> charles: hey be grateful it's popey it could of been 3 or 4 ;)
[18:43] <charles> davmor2, popey, I've got a couple of ideas on how to fix this on the indicator-datetime side
[18:44] <charles> but before I code on this I think I need Design feedback on how to handle the "two alarms, one time" use case
[18:44] <charles> gventuri's been handling clock/alarm design, I'll send him a writeup
[18:44] <davmor2> charles: nice :)
[19:01] <mterry> mpt, got a second to provide a label suggestion for me?  it's in the security page of system setting
[19:12] <nik90> charles, popey: How does other platforms like iOS handle "two alarms, one time" issue? Do they show multiple notifications? or just the one?
[19:13] <popey> one after the other
[19:13] <popey> iirc
[19:13] <charles> popey, davmor2, FYI I moved it over to https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1358890 to decouple it from the blocker bug that MacSlow's got an MP for
[19:13] <nik90> charles: ^^ seems like the first method you mentioned in the email
[19:14] <nik90> charles: but yes let's wait on what giorgio says, he usually replies quickly.
[19:16] <charles> queueing them seems simplest
[19:19] <nik90> +1
[19:21] <davmor2> charles: makes the most sense too,  I would dismiss the sound on the first and then display one notification after the other, seems to make the most sense
[19:28] <mterry> charles, so for that clock skew bug -- why was the label in the indicators showing the wrong time too?  unity8 was screwing up both menu models?
[19:28] <mterry> (the one for the indicator and the one for the greeter)
[19:28] <charles> mterry, it looks like it.
[19:29] <mterry> charles, bummer
[19:29] <charles> mterry, though, I don't know how the greeter and unity8 interact so dednick probably is a better person to ask
[19:29] <mterry> charles, same process
[19:30] <charles> I saw a new variation this morning -- the system time, the greeter time, and the indicator time were all three separate times
[19:30] <charles> previously I'd only seen the indicator and greeter in sync with each other
[19:30] <charles> so I guess they broke their dbus connections at separate points
[20:21] <Aillyn> hello, could anyone help me to find how to take a screenshot with ubuntu for device (devel) because I'like to create a bug report on Launchpad ?
[20:21] <Aillyn> I see only outdated things on Google and I can'find a way to make it work :(
[20:53] <daker> dobey: yo found something similar to your click list bug
[20:54] <daker> bug 1349326
[20:55] <daker> before u-s-s crashes i do get ** (process:22521): WARNING **: Couldn't parse desktop file /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.clock/1.0.430/com.ubuntu.clock_clock.desktop
[20:55] <daker> and the desktop file is corrupted
[20:56] <dobey> daker: no idea why the files got corrupted for you
[20:56] <dobey> but, there seems to be a deeper issue in the scope, than i thought it was, and my fix isn't quite working :(
[20:58] <daker> why deeper ?
[21:26] <dobey> daker: not sure. seems to be memory corruption happening somewhere. even with my fix that kills the throwing of the exception, it still seems to break most of the time :(
[21:26] <dobey> anyway, time to go here
[21:26] <dobey> later
[21:26] <daker> ok
[23:22] <matv1_> so i just flung together a simple app. it runs well on the desktop. i want to run it on my mako. I defined a build target. now i need to create a build kit to go with it i guess. but i cant figure out how to do that.
[23:26] <yourfunworld> Hi
[23:26] <yourfunworld> Do you think I can load Ubuntu Touch on my Android Vizio Tablet
[23:27] <yourfunworld> Even if its not supported
[23:32] <nik90> matv1_: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/using-device-kits/
[23:43] <matv1_> nik90 thats a very helpfull vid thanks. thing is, I am on an earlier version of the sdk i guess as i dont have a autocreate button for the kit on my devices panel..