[00:00] ah i thought i saw you had been asked to pop it on before [00:00] [ 1037.393237] sr0: unsupported sector size -687980545. [00:00] Suggestion? [00:00] wat [00:01] Andrew_: wait, are you sure that's a DVD drive? [00:01] dmesg is saying it's a CD drive [00:01] oh no, I see where it says it's a DVD drive now [00:01] ignore me ;) [00:01] so we've got 4 devices from what i see, 160GB seagate sda [00:02] my HD [00:02] a TEAC memory card reader [00:02] I do not use it. [00:02] The card reader, I mean. [00:02] HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GSA-H31N B110 [00:02] that's the optical yip [00:02] Yes. [00:02] Yes. [00:03] Shows no media no matter what I place in it. [00:03] daftykins: I noticed this line too: sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5 [00:03] laptop or desktop? [00:03] does that mean we should be mounting sg1 and not sr0? [00:03] Azelphur: which # sir? [00:03] daftykins: 679 [00:04] Inspiron 531s desktop [00:04] stock [00:04] UDMA 100 is very odd for an optical 0o [00:07] Andrew_: this is totally stupid, but have you powered off then back on since the install? [00:07] Of the OS? [00:07] Azelphur: i really don't know if that's a corresponding device name [00:07] Andrew_: nah whole computer [00:08] Ubuntu was installed yesterday, and I have restarted many times. [00:08] I have been without troubles up to this point. [00:08] right but what about being off? [00:08] Yes, it has been powered down completely and for a few hours. [00:09] can you give me the service tag off the case? [00:09] Not without a great effort. [00:09] how's that? should be 7 characters long [00:10] you can reboot and press F2 to enter BIOS and read it from there, to avoid the physical casing label [00:12] As in windows, is there a cmd/terminal command I can use? [00:12] Andrew_: try dmidecode -s system-serial-number [00:13] I am in the middle of a live session/data transfer and must maintain the connection until the upload is completed. [00:14] permission denied for that command [00:14] Andrew_: sudo dmidecode -s system-serial-number [00:15] 4FWH7D1 [00:15] there's no command in Windows to pull up a service tag 0o [00:15] daftykins: ^ [00:15] ty [00:15] wmic csproduct get vendor,name,identifyingnumber [00:15] also, wmic /user:administrator /node:remote-host bios get serialnumber [00:16] oh, my bad [00:16] evidently my Windows admin'ing isn't as far along as yours :D [00:16] heh that thing came with Vista, no wonder you wanted off [00:16] You can understand why I feel useless at the moment. [00:16] Linux is making me feel so tiny and stupid. [00:17] ok already latest BIOS, just for the fun of checking [00:17] haha, yeah i remember it did me too for a while [00:17] have you considered doing a free course? edx.org has the LFS101x right now [00:17] gives you a quick jump up for starter theory and general operation [00:17] it is a little dumbed down to be accessible, but is pretty good still [00:18] I may install a second HD and dual windows until I am able to figure out the issue with this disc drive. [00:19] Also, the moment I got this computer, I installed XP. [00:19] For the comment regarding vista. [00:19] he have you done practically every firmware update on that thing you can? seems that optical is already on the latest firmware too [00:20] I have, I believe. [00:20] *heh [00:20] Azelphur: i'm beginning to think kernel, old nvidia chipset + SATA quirkiness [00:20] I see [00:21] Funny you would say that. I had just thought that there might be a sata incompatibily issue here. [00:22] I believe I am stumped for the night. I will read more forums and hope to find a solution/workaround. [00:22] Thank you all for trying to assist me. [00:22] Andrew_: what i would do is try booting a live USB session of 12.04.5 [00:22] An earlier version may yeild some result, yes. [00:22] still long term support until 2017 too [00:22] I am aware that 14.04 is still buggy. [00:23] i would disagree with that statement, i think it's more on age right now [00:23] do you have 2GB RAM + ? [00:23] I do not. [00:23] more or less? [00:23] Less. [00:23] ouch [00:23] 1g [00:23] Yes. [00:24] you may want to go with lubuntu or xubuntu [00:24] lubuntu being the lightest but ugliest [00:24] I may use another system. I am uneasy about altering another machine. I opted to use this old dell as a test machine. [00:25] I have optimized my other systems on windows, but I will consider making a change. I am enjoying ubuntu, despite this one handup. [00:25] hangup* [00:25] i have a sony ultraportable running an intel core 2 duo with 2GB RAM and xubuntu 14.04, everything's ace :D [00:26] yeah optical is pretty... niche in my eyes now [00:26] anywho i'd be interested to see how you get on with precise (12.04.5) [00:26] would you like a download link before you go? [00:26] I will create a usb for it now. [00:27] I have the links, thank you. [00:27] ;] [00:27] I will return and share my results later. Thank you all very much, again. [00:28] np [00:28] good luck [00:28] hey mapps [00:28] hey sup man [00:30] mmmm not much here sir, been listening to this Blade Runner soundtrack though, damn it's good [00:30] mapps: hey you hear about Aphex Twin new album this year?! [00:30] oh wow [00:30] no [00:30] got a link? [00:30] he rarely releases anything [00:30] you like aphex? [00:32] damn straight, nah no links yet [00:33] though apparently he had some TOR link on his twitter feed [00:35] :D [00:36] love heliosphan [01:40] hmm [01:40] cant connect to my pptp vpn pw [01:40] arghhhh [01:42] D: [01:46] silly pi keeps losing wifi [01:51] tempted to format my netbook and put a fresh OS on..got win7 on atm..anyone got any suggestions for anythng else [01:54] lubuntu === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [06:02] how is everybody? [06:41] Mornin' [06:41] Good thanks, mapps [06:51] rubbish weather ere again [06:51] :( [06:59] Yeah. Getting cold. Might have to put the heating back on! [07:02] il be in sunny spain soon [07:02] :D [07:03] Going to Latvia next week then Gibraltar / Spain for 6months [07:03] will be living in la linea de concepcion === ali12341 is now known as ali1234 [07:57] hm === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === msm is now known as Guest71115 [08:41] morning all [08:43] Day off? [08:43] You never seem to be on IRC with the new job, must be keeping you too busy, better ask for a pay rise already [08:55] mapps: try elementary [08:58] DJones: no i'm at work, yes i am on it less but still trying to get on once in a while :D [09:07] morning boys and girls. [09:07] MooDoo: slacker [09:08] davmor2: shut the heck up youth :) [09:08] davmor2: ps, hope you're well [09:09] morning brobostigon [09:09] MooDoo: dude I'm only a year younger than you ;) How's life, how's the new job? [09:10] morning MooDoo [09:10] davmor2: It's all going ok, and it's fine thanks, learning a lot [09:10] MooDoo: I thought they employed you because of what you knew not what you could learn ;) [09:10] I feel ancient in comparison to almost everyone [09:11] davmor2: I know how to make tea :D [09:11] (on IRC channels) [09:11] Myrtti: you're a whipper snapper :D [09:13] the older I get the more convinced I am that age is a relative thing [09:13] this year marks my 20th anniversary online [09:13] in two years 20 years of IRC [09:13] Myrtti: when you're my age, then you can start to worry just a little bit :D [09:14] MooDoo: wrinkle cream. I have it. [09:14] Myrtti: MooDoo: kids today, always worrying about getting old [09:14] Myrtti: aren't you only in your 20's ? [09:14] DJones: I don't actually worry about getting old. I worry about starting to look like my mum. [09:14] I think there's only TheOpenSourcerer here thats older than me [09:14] * awilkins is 40 [09:15] MooDoo: 34 last week. [09:15] Myrtti: ah that's nothing [09:15] DJones: how old? [09:15] 47 [09:15] last week [09:15] * zmoylan-pi is 43 [09:15] \o/ [09:15] MooDoo: well, it's past the magical age of "how old my mum was when she had me" [09:15] DJones: happy birthday - belated [09:16] * MooDoo is 42 :D [09:16] it's all relative, you see [09:16] Hmmh, MooDoo is the answer to life, the universe and everything [09:16] yeah baby yeah [09:23] morning [09:24] morning popey === JamesTait is now known as Guest92244 === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [09:26] you oldies! [09:26] whipper snapper [09:27] get off my lawn [09:27] etc [09:27] Myrtti: see all the awesome people were born in August :) [09:29] JamesTait: I think I missed your announcement of what day it was....What is today oh wise and internet calendared one? [09:29] talk about your age day? [09:29] davmor2: you mean april right? [09:30] Good morning all; happy Humanitarian Day! :-D [09:30] davmor2, you didn't miss it, I just hadn't done it yet. :) [09:30] JamesTait: yay! [09:31] davmor2, it's also Photography Day and Aviation Day. [09:31] \o/ [09:31] good combo [09:31] davmor2, sounds like a day to take photographs of planes carrying people to humanitarian missions. [09:31] JamesTait: I prefer the to latter ones :D [09:32] MooDoo: sounds like a good excuse to get your camera out if ever there was one [09:32] excited for the wings and wheels show on sunday [09:32] * JamesTait has he camera perched on his desk in front of him, just in case. [09:32] Humanitarian day on a day that police are using tear gas and sonic weapons on peaceful protesters in a futile attempt to cover up that one of their officers fucked up big time [09:33] Myrtti: MooDoo doesn't think you are awesome don't take it personally, I think you are though :) [09:33] Pardon my channel-inappropriate outburst of language [09:33] i haven't been reading the news [09:33] sounds like something happened [09:33] no spoilers though ;) [09:34] Tinfoil hat side of me is wondering if this is a test case of civil unrest to investigate how well the tactics work [09:35] Whoever signed off on the budgets for it must be utterly mental [09:35] foobarry: US police have again shown that they can use excessive force and pull the trigger [09:35] A week of that kind of police action, plus national guard, seems an awful lot more expensive than just arresting the idiot and starting proceedings against him [09:37] davmor2: Myrtti is awesome thank you very much :D [09:37] +1 [09:38] MooDoo: yeah yeah yeah you said it dude don't try taking it back now ;) [09:38] davmor2: :p [09:38] hahaha [09:38] davmor2: pa just got back from bakewell :D had a great time went to gullivers kingdom :D [09:39] But the fact that they have built up that kind of arsenal? I don't understand how they could even think they would need it, unless they were planning for that kind of civil unrest... so why are they expecting it? [09:39] MooDoo: just bought a caravan we are still getting used to it :) [09:40] I would not expect police to have that kind of arsenal, I would expect them to have basic defensive gear, but if it escalated that much to send for the National Guard. [09:40] davmor2: what kinda caravan? [09:40] Not that it has escalated that much, except on the police side. [09:40] is it static or mobile? [09:41] popey: Tourer, 1999 Swift Classic Danette [09:42] with awning? [09:42] http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/swift-danette-caravan-1994-5-berth/1077536477 like that one? [09:43] popey: no we were in a trailer tent originally, but as my back and shoulder are slowly getting worse it was taking longer to recover from the setup. which is being bent over pegging stuff in, so we want to avoid that completely [09:44] yeah, wise [09:45] davmor2: awesome :D [09:45] popey: yeap that is ours, the back seats turn into a double bed and can be sectioned off as a bedroom. and then the rest of the caravan is just space to do stuff in :) [09:45] davmor2: Welcome to the ubuntu-uk-caravan-club :) [09:45] bunch of hippies, geeky hippies but still hippies :-) [09:46] * awilkins secretly wants to live in an Earthship / Hobbit hole [09:46] DJones: #ubuntu-uk-caravan-club ;) [09:46] :0 [09:46] :) [09:46] Grow my own veg. Brew my own drink. [09:46] popey, MooDoo, DJones: Next we want to move up to an Adria altea trent or an adria sportline up same thing but with a bit more space and luxury [09:46] i want to live on a crannog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crannog [09:46] As long as it has fibre. [09:46] * DJones concrete's over awilkins hobbit hole and builds a multistory car park [09:47] I defy your intentions to pave my paradise and put up a parking lot. [09:48] looked away from my vsphereOS pc for one second and windows decided a reboot was neceesary for updates :( [09:48] davmor2: We've got a 2 berth at the moment, would like to replace that with a fixed bed 4 berth before next year, not really any preference on the make though as long as its under 1300kgs [09:48] (ooooh, bop bop bop) [09:49] DJones: same here the adria is nice though have a look the trent and up are similar layouts the up has some extras though both under 1300 as that's all our car can pull [09:49] Anyone else going the the nec for the caravan and motorhome expo? [09:50] I'm not sure they'd let me in, I'm only 30 ;) [09:51] shauno: they'll let you in they just won't let you buy ;) [09:52] can you imagine the tents of the queue camping outside that! :-) [09:52] shauno: confuse them all, grow a beard [09:53] davmor2: I like the Bailey fix bed vans [10:00] what is the iU state in dpkg --list? [10:01] the top two lines of the output should detail that? [10:01] | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend [10:01] |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) [10:03] so iU is desired=Install, status=Unpacked (unpacked but not configured) [10:04] I'd assume that's the state when post-conf scripts break? [10:10] thats bad, it was a kernel [10:11] make sure /boot isn't full and try again? (just dpkg-reconfigure package). or just go straight to try again and pay attention to the output? [10:22] Good morning peeps :) [10:23] ugh, i'd run out of inodes in /usr [10:23] yeesh, how much stuff have you installed? [10:24] have you added all the ppas or something? [10:24] Impressed, unless you made a file system for /usr with non-default settings and that's biting you now :-) [10:25] i had small /usr [10:25] it is a vm server [10:26] a server which is a vm, [10:26] increased /usr and off we go [10:26] wheeeee [10:27] no space left on device always makes me think bytes rather than inodes [10:27] good invterview question [10:28] oddly, I tend to check the other way around. no space left on device makes me check inodes because bytes free rarely sneaks up on me [10:29] no space left on device always seems to be a show stopper in my experience [10:29] ie if it happens it doesn't really matter why, you'll be rebuilding that server from backups [10:29] lvm innit [10:29] it's extra fun when it hits zero and you don't even have space to delete things to make space :-) [10:29] apt-get -f install and we're back in business [10:30] yeah, if you can even log in [10:31] why would you even put /usr on a different partition on a VM server? [10:31] so i can still login if it fills up [10:32] I rarely hit that. my vps is a mailserver, so the liability is lots of small files (high inode usage). but not owned by root, so root's 5% reservation saves lives [10:32] /var is always the one that gets full though [10:33] not today [10:33] var can stomp on / if all together though, yeah [10:37] even more fun when your linux based phone runs out of space ☻ [10:38] raaaaaaaaaa bloomin awstats.... [10:45] sometimes i'm so dumb [10:49] DJones: seriously have a look at the adrias you will be pleasantly surprised at the trent and up :) [10:53] Yes DJones - I'm 49 currently. [10:55] TheOpenSourcerer: ubuntu uk 50th party? ;) [10:57] TheOpenSourcerer: man you're like the ancient and wise pepper monger [10:57] Hmmm... [10:59] TheOpenSourcerer: Right, I did think you were a year younger than that [10:59] I'd much rather be talking total non-PC, non CoC approved rubbish in my local for my 50th than an Ubuntu UK get together frankly. No offence ;-) [10:59] DJones: he's had a sneaky birthday since, probably [10:59] I have one every March oddly enough. [11:02] except next year when it won't be odd but even :-p [11:32] i think its pretty safe to say that LXLE is one of the more under-appreciated spins on Ubuntu [11:32] just installed the 64 bit version on my Thinkpad an it runs like kittens on cocaine ! [11:32] i am upgrading packages ubuntu 13.04 i faced some problem please open url http://paste.ubuntu.com/8088016/ [11:32] splitters! [11:38] hey zmoylan-pi [11:38] howzyou today [11:39] 3.14159265359 [11:39] that's as much as i can remember [11:39] Laney: I would like a slice please [11:39] i slice but the knife never seems to get to the end [11:40] MooDoo [11:41] Bliss ! [11:41] Screens in portrait mode :) [11:47] dvrr: sounds like bug 1083483 [11:47] bug 1083483 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "package libpulse0 1:2.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite shared '/etc/pulse/client.conf', which is different from other instances of package libpulse0:i386" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1083483 [11:47] dvrr: looks like you have libpulse0:i386 and libpulse0:amd64 trying to co-exist [11:49] hey knightwise, was just off reading rss [11:50] ancient tricorder :-) http://www.wired.com/2014/08/crazy-blowpipe-apparatus/ [11:57] popey: how can i resolve this problem === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:19] dvrr: I'd figure out why you have libpulse0:i386 installed [12:20] interestingly on my 14.04 system I have both libpulse0:i386 and libpulse0:amd64 so it looks like it's fixed in later releases [12:20] dvrr: you're on an unsupported version of Ubuntu (13.04) so chances are it won't get fixed, you'll need to either fix it by removing one of the two packages, or force install them or (preferably) upgrade to a newer release [12:41] libpulse0:i386 is used by several proprietary applications - one is skype i think [12:41] and yes this was a bug on 13.04, i remember being affected by it [12:46] finished my latest airfix kit but left the canopy in devon :( http://i.imgur.com/P9Z7jO7.jpg === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:00] Airfix was something I never really got into as a kid because of the expense of buying all the paint [13:01] took my powerup3 to the park at the wekend [13:01] man that thing is hard to fly! [13:01] possibly too windy [13:01] popey: that or your crap [13:01] that too [13:01] you're even [13:01] My girlfriend has a heap of unopened kits on a shelf in her boxroom and I feel the urge, as a nerdy man, to assemble them, but still balk at the cost of the paint [13:02] :-| [13:02] paint is not that much [13:02] that kit i did mainly used 3 colours [13:02] a red arrow uses.....1 colour [13:02] Emotional bias formed by childhood experience [13:03] £1.50ish for a pot of humbrol. thats all u need [13:03] awilkins: take a photo of the kits on the shelf pls :D [13:03] Next time I'm there [13:03] it is the most enjoyable and relaxing of hobbies [13:04] it really is rather inexpensive [13:04] especially if you're doing WWII RAF stuff. then its all sky/dark earth/green camo style [13:05] yank ww2 stuff isn't bad either. one can of spray silver goes a long way [13:06] i was thinking of buying some star trek models [13:06] they have some great versions of the original enterprise .. [13:06] but i'm afraid I suck at stuff you have to glue together [13:06] yeah. also check this vid for metalcote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn9_Y7v0PXI [13:07] knightwise: when was the last time you tried? [13:08] when I was a teenager I think [13:08] all the hormones react with the glue...try again :P [13:08] hmm.. might be worth it [13:08] wife buys me a lego kit from time to time :) keeps me busy for ages :) [13:09] * knightwise has a small collection of lego star wars ships [13:20] * foobarry has real star wars in the loft [13:22] By "real" I presume you mean original figures, not the modern ones [13:22] yep [13:22] DO you have a Boba Fett? [13:22] and not made out of lego [13:22] i have 2 boba fetts [13:22] With launching rocket? [13:23] one had chewing gum and a bit wobbly that i acquired in a swap. one is in better nick [13:23] i don't think the launching rocket was on general release [13:23] or so the episode of toy hunter told me [13:23] i have yak face though. [13:24] he's prob worth around £70 [13:26] Wow, Rocket Firing Boba Fett : $16,000 [13:26] check youtube for the toy hunter episode [13:27] although i hate that prog. its soo.....money oriented [13:27] james may could make an awesome english equivalent [13:29] apparently kenner made them as sample but not sold due to risk of children and law suits [13:30] * knightwise has a boba fett , in da box :) [13:30] Oldest action figure I have is from 79 [13:30] I currently also have a T-interceptor from 81, with a pilot from 83 :) [13:30] awilkins: no rocket firing one. a re-issue :) [13:32] i have battle damaged x-wing in box [13:32] i played with them all but kept the boxes [13:32] even boxes are worth something ç! [13:34] https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/13333634564/ [13:34] my 81' T-interceptor [13:35] how much did u buy for [13:41] foobarry: i got it as a gift from the guy at the toy store (we have a retro toy store in gent we go to regularly) [13:41] the wings are glued on , so it isn't worth much anymore [13:41] but its still very cool [13:42] and this is te biggest T-wing I got to see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-GFQtTrZAs (1 minute into the movie) [13:42] sorry , 10 minutes in === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:34] just realised the vulcan XH558 is flying on sunday too \o/ [15:36] popping back from a mission over iraq? :-p [15:47] hm my pi wifi turns itself off:D [15:47] going undercover? power saving? [15:48] i think it must be the power saving [15:48] but [15:48] it happens after like a few mins!! [15:50] time it to see? [15:51] yea will do now === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:12] popey: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/ubuntu-mate-remix-course-become-official-flavour [17:56] DJones: ☻ [19:01] * smittix ties MooDoo's shoe laces together [19:06] * SuperEngineer pushes [19:06] * smittix laughs and runs away [19:08] * zmoylan-pi places banana peels in smittix's path [19:12] * smittix slips over in a cartoon fashion whilst crashing into zmoylan-pi [19:16] * SuperEngineer carefully places drawing pins around smittix's escape path [19:21] * zmoylan-pi lands and yells and leaps off the drawing pins in a manner that has tom and jerrys animators reaching for the copyright lawyers phone number [19:25] heh [19:25] * smittix sits up and waves [19:25] * SuperEngineer drops cartoon anvil [19:27] ouch [19:27] * foobarry mixes up some acme quick drying cement [19:28] * smittix wonders why everyone is after him. [19:29] * SuperEngineer phones Roger Rabbit [19:29] * smittix phones Jessica [19:30] [& pours all that tupentine down the chemoical disposal] [19:31] i need some turps or white spirit [19:31] but i want 50ml, not 2L [19:31] To drink? [19:31] maybe i should ask a neighbour [19:31] * smittix hides [19:31] double measure [19:32] itv always say "don't go away". [19:32] sorry mate. i'm doing the washing up [19:32] [this is soooo muh more fun than boasting about the new printer I bought at the weekend for exactly 2 pints... which previous very temp owner couldn't get working] [19:33] what kind of printer? and is it working now? [19:33] 2 pints of water or 2 pints of inkjet ink? :-) [19:34] MartijnVdS: Epsom Xp-412 [19:34] ...easy to control [as a printer] vis the escpr driver for Ubuntu from Epsom [19:35] ...as a scanner thopugh... well maybe someday... [19:36] [but it's got inbuilt screen and control for that... - scan to the sdcard - xfer the card to pooter - print it from pooter if wanted till then [19:38] * SuperEngineer checks - Jessica Rabbit has *not* recieved any phone call from smittix ! [19:38] ...she still loves Roger & SuperEngineer only [19:40] * zmoylan-pi hasn't seen an epson printer other than receipt printers since.... [19:40] heh [19:40] epson stylus 200 yonks back [19:41] zmoylan-pi: stylus wat? [19:41] and 9 and 24 pin dot matrix jobbies around that time. [19:41] DJones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqV4R_dArM#t=340 by the way and weighs in at 1300 :) [19:41] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epson-Expression-XP-412-Small-Printer/dp/B00DVH6HAG [19:41]