[05:52] <inetpro> good morning 
[06:01] <Cantide> good afternoon
[06:01] <Cantide> :p
[06:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:05] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi bushtech, ThatGraemeGuy, can<tab>, inetpro 
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo nuvolari 
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> how many more days? :)
[07:19] <charl> morning all
[07:19] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:19]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[07:24] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[07:24] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[08:24] <Kilos> morning superfly  inetpro  ThatGraemeGuy  nuvolari  and others
[08:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi Kilos 
[08:24] <Kilos> hi there deegee  
[08:24] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:25] <inetpro> again... and hi Kilos
[08:25] <Kilos> lol
[08:25] <inetpro> :-)
[08:25] <inetpro> you are late Kilos
[08:26] <Kilos> bad head day sir did too much physical stuff yesterday
[08:26] <inetpro> eish! Sorry oom
[08:27] <Kilos> and still more to do whew. cutting junk trees and privets to get to where fence used to be so i can replace with razer wire
[08:28] <Kilos> need a mk3 drill and lazer methinks
[08:28]  * ThatGraemeGuy writes a script to kill minetest server at midnight
[08:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> ;-p
[08:28] <Kilos> you guys all well?
[08:29] <Kilos> no no no ThatGraemeGuy  1 hour on night surfer is too min
[08:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> addiction is an ugly thing :-o
[08:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[08:30] <Kilos> ya but so lekker better than being addicted to drugs and booze
[08:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> hahaha
[08:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> cheaper too :)
[08:30] <Kilos> yeah
[08:31] <Kilos> and healthier
[08:31] <Kilos> i wanted to ask you kde guys for help for a long time now
[08:33] <Kilos> i need to make perminent my gamma settings but cant work out how, first thing it boots way to bright so i leave gamma where it is and move the three coulours down one notch but it forgets on reboot
[08:33] <Kilos> permanent
[08:34] <Kilos> a link is good
[08:37] <inetpro> yikes! What gamma settings are these even?
[08:37] <Kilos> in monitor
[08:37] <inetpro> what does that have to do with the OS?
[08:38] <Kilos> unity was different and i had a command to kill something to make it permanent
[08:38] <Kilos> unity had to use nvidia to do the setting
[08:39] <Kilos> i just found a save system wide block to tick, maybe that works
[08:39] <Kilos> take a break ill tell you tomorrow
[08:40] <inetpro> hmm... never to old to learn
[08:40] <inetpro> there's an app called kgamma, never used it, can't promise that it will do the trick
[08:41] <Kilos> kde has what one needs in settings display and monitor it just didnt stay permanent, maybe i have it now
[08:42] <inetpro> then there is what looks like an interesting write-up at http://coderazzi.net/howto/kubuntu/gamma.html but I haven't the time to read now and test, etc
[08:43] <Kilos> will look ty
[08:43] <inetpro> maybe someone else has another solution
[08:49] <Kilos> that looks easy enough
[08:49] <Kilos> its the nvidia stuff that interferes so he gave the fix for that too
[08:50] <Kilos> on unity it is a nightmare
[08:53] <superfly> ohi
[08:53] <Kilos> also the nvidia drivers install some hdmi thing and twice now my system has switched from analog to the hdmi thing which i dont even have a cable or amp for
[08:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> ohi fly
[09:36] <nuvolari> for those that have not seen the Pipe Guy yet:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0gED3rn2Tc
[09:36] <nuvolari> thank me later
[09:36] <nuvolari> :P
[09:36] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  
[09:37] <charl> oh yes i've seen him, he's good
[09:37] <charl> and hi :)
[09:37] <Kilos> hi charl  
[09:38] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos, charl 
[10:02] <charl> caffeinated owl chart https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvYmg71IAAAnCjW.jpg
[11:06] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:06] <Kilos> you twins today drussell  
[11:08] <Kilos> ha peer got them both
[11:16] <charl> peer strikes again
[11:18] <Trixar_za> Somebody must stop it's evil ways
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://i.imgur.com/lDk0uif.jpg
[11:40] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: +1
[11:40] <inetpro> :-)
[11:43] <inetpro> what about parity?
[11:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> RAID5 is there
[11:51] <inetpro> no just joking around in the office, please don't mention parity :-)
[13:53] <nuvolari> what's wrong with a party inetpro ?
[13:53] <nuvolari> :P
[13:55] <Trixar_za> That reminds me. You in the Cape yet, nuvolari?
[14:08] <nuvolari> Trixar_za: :'( no
[14:08] <nuvolari> these parasites...
[14:08] <nuvolari> so I'm counter-parasiting :P (well, you get the gist of it)
[14:09] <nuvolari> they didn't want me to go a bit early
[14:14] <Trixar_za> Btw, any good guides on writing OSes? Preferably ones that would boot in QEMU? ;P
[16:28] <Kilos> bushtech  i forgot to ask how your upgrade went
[16:31] <bushtech> Eish, 2 days on and off to get it going. I think caused by bad dvd burning & then kept crashing till I replaced nouveau with nvidia driver
[16:31] <bushtech> Now watching it in trepidation hoping it won't crash again
[16:32] <Kilos> eish
[16:32] <bushtech> Havent had much time to lift the hood and have a look lol
[16:32] <Kilos> what do you use to burn dvds
[16:32] <bushtech> imgburn on w7 lappy
[16:33] <Kilos> eish
[16:33] <Kilos> you need to get an ubuntu pc for work
[16:33] <bushtech> but coucldn't find any unused dvd so had to recycle
[16:33] <Kilos> kubuntu 
[16:33] <Kilos> ah i often had probs with rewritables
[16:33] <bushtech> why?
[16:34] <Kilos> because it works and warns you when it doesnt
[16:34] <Kilos> k3b is a great tool for that
[16:34] <Kilos> also you must try using usb sticks for installing from
[16:35] <Kilos> i dont make cds or dvds with an os on anymore
[16:35] <bushtech> Yeah burnt a usb as wel, was crashing at same spotl
[16:36] <bushtech> go figure
[16:36] <Kilos> wow maybe faulty os download
[16:36] <bushtech> md5sum checked out
[16:36] <Kilos> faultu iso
[16:36] <Kilos> oh my
[16:37] <bushtech> only whenI burnt that same dvd a 1x speed did it work
[16:37] <Kilos> looks like murphy visits there by you as well
[16:37] <bushtech> he's  virtually family!
[16:38] <Kilos> rofl here too
[16:39] <bushtech> so 8 months after lightning strike I finally have all computers running again
[16:39] <Kilos> wow took a while hey
[16:40] <bushtech> when you live in the bush and some stuff needs to be imported it takes a while
[16:40] <Kilos> ai!
[16:42] <bushtech> so far only thing loaded on 1404 is mysql workbench
[17:44] <charl> good evening
[17:44] <charl> hi Kilos, bushtech 
[17:44] <Kilos> hi charl  
[17:52] <bushtech> hi charl
[18:05] <charl> hi smile :)
[18:06] <Kilos> hi smile  
[18:06] <smile> hi! :D
[18:08] <smile> how are you? :D
[18:08] <Kilos> :D
[18:08] <charl> i'm doing well, and you ?
[18:08] <smile> great :)
[18:08] <smile> Just hoping my girlfriend will appear within 15 minutes :)
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <charl> nice :)
[18:09] <smile> not in real life, but on IRC :(
[18:11] <smile> convert IRC to real life, will you, charl ? :p
[18:11] <charl> if i would, i could have
[18:11] <charl> girlfriends are best seen in real life :)
[18:12] <smile> what about touch? :P
[18:12] <smile> touch /usr/share/applications/touch.desktop :P
[18:12] <smile> ;)
[18:12] <charl> yes three dimensions
[18:12] <charl> very good
[18:13] <smile> what do you touch in real life, charl? Android or iOS? :P
[18:13] <charl> neither, i only use fully open source systems
[18:13] <charl> android isn't fully open source
[18:14] <smile> ASOP is ;)
[18:14] <smile> AOSP :P
[18:14] <smile> ;)
[18:14] <charl> yes part of it is, but part of what is ususally bundled comes with proprietary google software as well
[18:14] <smile> So you don't use Flash Player? :P
[18:14] <charl> and many manufacturers add even more on top
[18:15] <charl> nope of course not
[18:15] <charl> only html5 video/audio
[18:15] <smile> :)
[18:15] <smile> I disable Flash most of the time :P
[18:15] <charl> i can play almost any youtube video now, soundcloud works, grooveshark's html5 version works
[18:15] <smile> Rdio has no html5 :p
[18:15] <charl> vimeo works
[18:15] <superfly> charl: so what phone do you have?
[18:16] <charl> superfly: i don't have a mobile phone
[18:16] <superfly> charl: friends with RMS, hey?
[18:16] <smile> if you would, would you run Debian on it? ;)
[18:16] <smile> :D
[18:16] <smile> or isn't that free enough :P
[18:16] <smile> RMS isn't a fan of Ubuntu, superfly :p
[18:17] <charl> rms has some very interesting views but he is quite extreme indeed
[18:17] <charl> charl@charl-laptop:~$ vrms
[18:17] <charl> No non-free or contrib packages installed on charl-laptop!  rms would be proud.
[18:18] <smile> what about [girl@love ~]$  ;)
[18:18] <charl> girls are always awesome :)
[18:19] <charl> and they don't run proprietary software, although i do wish they had a debug mode
[18:20] <smile> bash: debug: command not found
[18:21] <smile> indeed ;)
[18:22] <smile> http://pastebin.com/Q7WdXnxw ;)
[18:23] <smile> it's failing hover, because LGPL is free ;)
[18:23] <charl> yeah indeed
[18:24] <charl> well, according to rms :P
[18:24] <smile> :)
[18:24] <charl> not if you ask the openbsd crouwd
[18:24] <charl> s/crouwd/crowd/
[18:24] <smile> even BSD clause 2 is marked as non free :p
[18:24] <charl> strange indeed
[18:24] <smile> libcpuid: ['BSD-2-Clause']
[18:25] <charl> yeah rms would indeed say it isn't free according to his own definition of free
[18:25] <smile> I used vrms-arch from AUR
[18:25] <charl> ah you're on arch
[18:25] <smile> yeah :)
[18:25] <charl> tried manjaro but got some strange issues with many packages
[18:25] <charl> didn't look too stable to me
[18:25] <smile> I used to be on Ubuntu though
[18:26] <smile> I use Manjaro :P
[18:26] <smile> Some problems, but everything is fixable, right? :p
[18:26] <charl> i had some trouble with packages like miredo
[18:26] <smile> I did have a very bumpy upgrade to 0.9.9 :P
[18:26] <charl> it feels really good to run all the latest software though
[18:26] <smile> My graphics drivers were complaining :p
[18:26] <charl> very much not ubuntu-style
[18:27] <charl> ah you have nvidia /
[18:27] <smile> yeah. ubuntu is so slow updating :p
[18:27] <smile> yes, and Intel, charl :)
[18:27] <smile> I use intel solely now
[18:27] <charl> i only use intel hd now
[18:27] <charl> i'm completely done with nvidia and driver problems
[18:27] <charl> used to be a big amd fan but abandoned them when they bought radion
[18:28] <smile> what about AMD/ATI, they suck even more in open source drivers :p
[18:28] <charl> s/radion/radeon/
[18:28] <smile> I understood ;)
[18:28] <charl> ati was always a mess
[18:29] <smile> my ati card gave up a few weeks ago :p
[18:29] <smile> I ordered a new NVIDIA card, cause there ain't no alternatives :p
[18:29] <smile> but worser than ATI is though to get your hands on :p
[18:30] <smile> I think the NVIDIA card was branded by ASUS :p
[18:30] <smile> Its a passively cooled graphics card :)
[18:31] <charl> ah
[18:31] <smile> More cooling than card. :P
[18:31] <charl> hahaha
[18:32] <charl> good for energy consumption and noise though ?
[18:32] <smile> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-GeForce-Silent-Graphics/dp/B0082FN8YA :P
[18:32] <smile> yeah! :) I don't need fancy effects, I just need Full HD
[18:32] <charl> ah yes i see it
[18:32] <smile> Bought it on amazon.de though :)
[18:57] <smile> good night! :)
[18:57] <Kilos> night smile  sleep tight
[18:57] <smile> thanks, u2 :)
[18:58] <smile> and good night to charl, too :p
[19:40] <inetpro> good evening
[19:41] <inetpro> charl: nice discussion ^^ :-)
[19:41] <captine> hi there
[20:01] <gremble> o/
[22:09] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight