[05:52] good morning [06:01] good afternoon [06:01] :p [06:23] morning all [07:05] o/ oh hi bushtech, ThatGraemeGuy, can, inetpro [07:16] 'lo nuvolari [07:16] how many more days? :) [07:19] morning all [07:19] Maaz: coffee on [07:19] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:23] Coffee's ready for charl! [07:24] Maaz: thanks [07:24] charl: Sure [08:24] morning superfly inetpro ThatGraemeGuy nuvolari and others [08:24] hi Kilos [08:24] hi there deegee [08:24] good mornings [08:25] again... and hi Kilos [08:25] lol [08:25] :-) [08:25] you are late Kilos [08:26] bad head day sir did too much physical stuff yesterday [08:26] eish! Sorry oom [08:27] and still more to do whew. cutting junk trees and privets to get to where fence used to be so i can replace with razer wire [08:28] need a mk3 drill and lazer methinks [08:28] * ThatGraemeGuy writes a script to kill minetest server at midnight [08:28] ;-p [08:28] you guys all well? [08:29] no no no ThatGraemeGuy 1 hour on night surfer is too min [08:30] addiction is an ugly thing :-o [08:30] lol [08:30] ya but so lekker better than being addicted to drugs and booze [08:30] hahaha [08:30] cheaper too :) [08:30] yeah [08:31] and healthier [08:31] i wanted to ask you kde guys for help for a long time now [08:33] i need to make perminent my gamma settings but cant work out how, first thing it boots way to bright so i leave gamma where it is and move the three coulours down one notch but it forgets on reboot [08:33] permanent [08:34] a link is good [08:37] yikes! What gamma settings are these even? [08:37] in monitor [08:37] what does that have to do with the OS? [08:38] unity was different and i had a command to kill something to make it permanent [08:38] unity had to use nvidia to do the setting [08:39] i just found a save system wide block to tick, maybe that works [08:39] take a break ill tell you tomorrow [08:40] hmm... never to old to learn [08:40] there's an app called kgamma, never used it, can't promise that it will do the trick [08:41] kde has what one needs in settings display and monitor it just didnt stay permanent, maybe i have it now [08:42] then there is what looks like an interesting write-up at http://coderazzi.net/howto/kubuntu/gamma.html but I haven't the time to read now and test, etc [08:43] will look ty [08:43] maybe someone else has another solution [08:49] that looks easy enough [08:49] its the nvidia stuff that interferes so he gave the fix for that too [08:50] on unity it is a nightmare [08:53] ohi [08:53] also the nvidia drivers install some hdmi thing and twice now my system has switched from analog to the hdmi thing which i dont even have a cable or amp for [08:53] ohi fly [09:36] for those that have not seen the Pipe Guy yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0gED3rn2Tc [09:36] thank me later [09:36] :P [09:36] lo nuvolari [09:37] oh yes i've seen him, he's good [09:37] and hi :) [09:37] hi charl [09:38] hi oom Kilos, charl [10:02] caffeinated owl chart https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvYmg71IAAAnCjW.jpg [11:06] hmm... [11:06] you twins today drussell [11:08] ha peer got them both [11:16] peer strikes again [11:18] Somebody must stop it's evil ways [11:40] http://i.imgur.com/lDk0uif.jpg [11:40] ThatGraemeGuy: +1 [11:40] :-) [11:43] what about parity? [11:47] RAID5 is there [11:51] no just joking around in the office, please don't mention parity :-) [13:53] what's wrong with a party inetpro ? [13:53] :P [13:55] That reminds me. You in the Cape yet, nuvolari? [14:08] Trixar_za: :'( no [14:08] these parasites... [14:08] so I'm counter-parasiting :P (well, you get the gist of it) [14:09] they didn't want me to go a bit early [14:14] Btw, any good guides on writing OSes? Preferably ones that would boot in QEMU? ;P [16:28] bushtech i forgot to ask how your upgrade went [16:31] Eish, 2 days on and off to get it going. I think caused by bad dvd burning & then kept crashing till I replaced nouveau with nvidia driver [16:31] Now watching it in trepidation hoping it won't crash again [16:32] eish [16:32] Havent had much time to lift the hood and have a look lol [16:32] what do you use to burn dvds [16:32] imgburn on w7 lappy [16:33] eish [16:33] you need to get an ubuntu pc for work [16:33] but coucldn't find any unused dvd so had to recycle [16:33] kubuntu [16:33] ah i often had probs with rewritables [16:33] why? [16:34] because it works and warns you when it doesnt [16:34] k3b is a great tool for that [16:34] also you must try using usb sticks for installing from [16:35] i dont make cds or dvds with an os on anymore [16:35] Yeah burnt a usb as wel, was crashing at same spotl [16:36] go figure [16:36] wow maybe faulty os download [16:36] md5sum checked out [16:36] faultu iso [16:36] oh my [16:37] only whenI burnt that same dvd a 1x speed did it work [16:37] looks like murphy visits there by you as well [16:37] he's virtually family! [16:38] rofl here too [16:39] so 8 months after lightning strike I finally have all computers running again [16:39] wow took a while hey [16:40] when you live in the bush and some stuff needs to be imported it takes a while [16:40] ai! [16:42] so far only thing loaded on 1404 is mysql workbench [17:44] good evening [17:44] hi Kilos, bushtech [17:44] hi charl [17:52] hi charl [18:05] hi smile :) [18:06] hi smile [18:06] hi! :D [18:08] how are you? :D [18:08] :D [18:08] i'm doing well, and you ? [18:08] great :) [18:08] Just hoping my girlfriend will appear within 15 minutes :) [18:08] lol [18:08] nice :) [18:09] not in real life, but on IRC :( [18:11] convert IRC to real life, will you, charl ? :p [18:11] if i would, i could have [18:11] girlfriends are best seen in real life :) [18:12] what about touch? :P [18:12] touch /usr/share/applications/touch.desktop :P [18:12] ;) [18:12] yes three dimensions [18:12] very good [18:13] what do you touch in real life, charl? Android or iOS? :P [18:13] neither, i only use fully open source systems [18:13] android isn't fully open source [18:14] ASOP is ;) [18:14] AOSP :P [18:14] ;) [18:14] yes part of it is, but part of what is ususally bundled comes with proprietary google software as well [18:14] So you don't use Flash Player? :P [18:14] and many manufacturers add even more on top [18:15] nope of course not [18:15] only html5 video/audio [18:15] :) [18:15] I disable Flash most of the time :P [18:15] i can play almost any youtube video now, soundcloud works, grooveshark's html5 version works [18:15] Rdio has no html5 :p [18:15] vimeo works [18:15] charl: so what phone do you have? [18:16] superfly: i don't have a mobile phone [18:16] charl: friends with RMS, hey? [18:16] if you would, would you run Debian on it? ;) [18:16] :D [18:16] or isn't that free enough :P [18:16] RMS isn't a fan of Ubuntu, superfly :p [18:17] rms has some very interesting views but he is quite extreme indeed [18:17] charl@charl-laptop:~$ vrms [18:17] No non-free or contrib packages installed on charl-laptop! rms would be proud. [18:18] what about [girl@love ~]$ ;) [18:18] girls are always awesome :) [18:19] and they don't run proprietary software, although i do wish they had a debug mode [18:20] bash: debug: command not found [18:21] indeed ;) [18:22] http://pastebin.com/Q7WdXnxw ;) [18:23] it's failing hover, because LGPL is free ;) [18:23] yeah indeed [18:24] well, according to rms :P [18:24] :) [18:24] not if you ask the openbsd crouwd [18:24] s/crouwd/crowd/ [18:24] even BSD clause 2 is marked as non free :p [18:24] strange indeed [18:24] libcpuid: ['BSD-2-Clause'] [18:25] yeah rms would indeed say it isn't free according to his own definition of free [18:25] I used vrms-arch from AUR [18:25] ah you're on arch [18:25] yeah :) [18:25] tried manjaro but got some strange issues with many packages [18:25] didn't look too stable to me [18:25] I used to be on Ubuntu though [18:26] I use Manjaro :P [18:26] Some problems, but everything is fixable, right? :p [18:26] i had some trouble with packages like miredo [18:26] I did have a very bumpy upgrade to 0.9.9 :P [18:26] it feels really good to run all the latest software though [18:26] My graphics drivers were complaining :p [18:26] very much not ubuntu-style [18:27] ah you have nvidia / [18:27] yeah. ubuntu is so slow updating :p [18:27] yes, and Intel, charl :) [18:27] I use intel solely now [18:27] i only use intel hd now [18:27] i'm completely done with nvidia and driver problems [18:27] used to be a big amd fan but abandoned them when they bought radion [18:28] what about AMD/ATI, they suck even more in open source drivers :p [18:28] s/radion/radeon/ [18:28] I understood ;) [18:28] ati was always a mess [18:29] my ati card gave up a few weeks ago :p [18:29] I ordered a new NVIDIA card, cause there ain't no alternatives :p [18:29] but worser than ATI is though to get your hands on :p [18:30] I think the NVIDIA card was branded by ASUS :p [18:30] Its a passively cooled graphics card :) [18:31] ah [18:31] More cooling than card. :P [18:31] hahaha [18:32] good for energy consumption and noise though ? [18:32] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-GeForce-Silent-Graphics/dp/B0082FN8YA :P [18:32] yeah! :) I don't need fancy effects, I just need Full HD [18:32] ah yes i see it [18:32] Bought it on amazon.de though :) [18:57] good night! :) [18:57] night smile sleep tight [18:57] thanks, u2 :) [18:58] and good night to charl, too :p [19:40] good evening [19:41] charl: nice discussion ^^ :-) [19:41] hi there [20:01] o/ [22:09] night all. sleep tight