| bluesabre | hey all | 00:14 |
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| bluesabre | ochosi, knome, elfy: maybe we should add pkexec policies to xubuntu-default-settings instead of individual packages to maintain translations... thoughts? | 00:34 |
| bluesabre | + Unit193 | 00:35 |
| * bluesabre finally reads the rest of the backlog | 01:26 | |
| bluesabre | but yeah, for translations, I think it has to be either upstream or with xds | 01:26 |
| bluesabre | ^ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/revision/502 | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | I'd vote upstream, then. | 02:33 |
| skellat | ochosi, bluesabre: This needs follow-up by one of you -- http://askubuntu.com/q/512257/139532 | 03:32 |
| elfy | bluesabre: that makes sense to me | 05:53 |
| elfy | ochosi bluesabre - there were updates today for a couple of gstreamer packages, tied up with bug 1346821 | 06:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1346821 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "media-hub-server uses all system's memory (sigkill send to init)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1346821 | 06:37 |
| elfy | appears to fix the issue with parole bug 1356979 | 06:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1356979 in parole (Ubuntu) "Fast forward/jog during a track changes to next playlist track" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1356979 | 06:37 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1346821/comments/9 | 06:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1346821 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "media-hub-server uses all system's memory (sigkill send to init)" [Critical,In progress] | 06:39 |
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| Unit193 | elfy: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-core doesn't have them select "Install" or "Command-line install", not sure if it's planned. The tasksel name is 'Xubuntu minimal installation', not sure if that matters to you. | 07:17 |
| Unit193 | (Also removed the "Welcome to Ubuntu etherpad") | 07:17 |
| elfy | yea - it does - that's why it's a draft, I copied stuff from elsewhere | 07:18 |
| elfy | write what needs to be written please :) | 07:18 |
| Unit193 | And I'll have to see how exactly that boots, or when you can select it. | 07:20 |
| elfy | should be in the same place as http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/image/1504_Netboot%20Install%20%28Desktop%29 | 07:21 |
| elfy | line 32/33 I think | 07:21 |
| knome | bluesabre, upstream is the ideal situation, and IMO should be the long-term goal. doing it in x-d-s is ok for now | 07:27 |
| ochosi | elfy: have you noticed any issues with gtk3 apps in utopic so far? | 08:05 |
| ochosi | i mean do they look and work okay? (e.g. evince or file-roller) | 08:05 |
| ochosi | ok, answered that question myself, evince, file-roller and the likes are still in their 3.10 versions (i.e. without CSD) so xubuntu by default at least is safe | 08:30 |
| ochosi | ali1234: ^ | 08:31 |
| ochosi | (obviously this doesn't apply to other distros or xfce in general, which is why i posted it here) | 08:32 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | check file requester windows though | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | because those always get CSD if it is available | 08:37 |
| ochosi | file requester? you mean the open-file dialog? | 08:40 |
| ali1234 | yes | 08:41 |
| ali1234 | also pretty much any modal dialog | 08:41 |
| * ochosi is afraid to look | 08:42 | |
| ochosi | ali1234: they look fine in 14.10 as far as i can tell | 08:50 |
| ochosi | yup, they patched it out, like i suspected | 08:52 |
| brainwash | elfy: does your policy file also work with /usr/bin/Thunar (the symlink)? | 09:10 |
| elfy | nope | 09:12 |
| brainwash | add it or just ignore the (useless) symlink | 09:15 |
| brainwash | would anyone run "pkexec Thunar"? | 09:15 |
| ochosi | elfy: btw, eric told me last night that "if you are trying to do pkexec thunar in the org.xfce.thunar.policy file make sure you have <annotate key="org.freedesktop.policykit.exec.allow_gui">TRUE</annotate> | 09:16 |
| ochosi | " | 09:16 |
| ochosi | background: pkexec won't pass $DISPLAY or $XAUTHORITY by default (and running a full gui program as root is a bad idea) | 09:16 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, we could do the pkexec and the new NetworkManager items for the docs, if you want, and afterwards start to work on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/slickymaster/LinksMergeSandbox stuff | 09:17 |
| elfy | off to work again | 09:17 |
| brainwash | and what about an additional script called thunar-pkexec? it basically runs pkexec thunar "$@" | 09:17 |
| brainwash | like gparted-pkexec | 09:18 |
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| bluesabre | ochosi: got it | 10:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: if you're still looking at the greeter (not like this is a huge issue though), we could try to improve the padding in the shutdown/restart dialogs. the icons look a bit off in gtk3.12 | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: we'll do that for 1.9.1 | 10:17 |
| ochosi | ideally they'd be vertically centered: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08192014-121717pm.php | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | I agree | 10:17 |
| ochosi | we can also drop the icons though | 10:17 |
| ochosi | they don't really add much to the meaning of the dialog | 10:17 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, sure... let's see when we both have time :) | 10:17 |
| ochosi | lunchtime, bbl | 10:18 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: want to test something when you get back in trusty? | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | pull latest lightdm-gtk-greeter, then run | 10:43 |
| bluesabre | ./autogen.sh; make; make distcheck | 10:43 |
| bluesabre | let me know if it finishes | 10:43 |
| bluesabre | skellat: responded. | 11:17 |
| brainwash | ochosi: bug 1193716 is fixed now, but is it worth to tell people that they can request the package to be backported to trusty? | 11:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1193716 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Xfce Power Manager does not override the screen saver timeout (X11 Screen Saver extension)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193716 | 11:27 |
| brainwash | I'm not sure how to handle this backport option? do we even provide any backports for trusty as of now? | 11:28 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: can we close bug 1349056 ? | 11:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1349056 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager doesn't suspend on lid closed (regression)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1349056 | 11:41 |
| elfy | ochosi: I really know little about pkexec - if it needs fiddling about with then someone else will have to do so | 12:08 |
| brainwash | why did someone move all the dupes to bug 1357090 ?! | 12:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1357090 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Black screen on resume Xubuntu 14.04.1 #1303736 NOT fixed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357090 | 12:20 |
| === slickyma1ter is now known as slickymaster | ||
| elfy | ochosi: there's certainly no org.xfce.thunar.policy atm - just one I knocked together which says something else entirely | 12:21 |
| elfy | bluesabre might want to hold fire if the policies need to be changed | 12:34 |
| ochosi | brainwash: not sure an entirely new version of xfce4-power-manager will be backported to trusty | 12:40 |
| ochosi | and anyway, the stable 1.4 hasn't even been released yet | 12:40 |
| ochosi | but yeah, you can still mark it fixed | 12:40 |
| brainwash | so we don't do backports? | 12:41 |
| ochosi | i'm not sure i wanna port back something like the power-manager | 12:41 |
| ochosi | it theoretically needs new icons too | 12:41 |
| ochosi | it's not like we only fixed bugs from 1.2 to 1.4 | 12:42 |
| ochosi | people who want it can get it from a PPA i'd say | 12:42 |
| ochosi | that is, when it's released | 12:42 |
| brainwash | ok | 12:42 |
| ochosi | brainwash: also, please don't subscribe me to reports like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1357090 | 12:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1357090 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Black screen on resume Xubuntu 14.04.1 #1303736 NOT fixed" [High,Confirmed] | 12:44 |
| ochosi | i mean seriously, we close a bugreport and people open a new bugreport referencing that bugreport? | 12:45 |
| brainwash | "Input from the Xubuntu team would be much appreciated here" | 12:45 |
| brainwash | it's a mess | 12:45 |
| ochosi | the comments suggest that the two guys have entirely differnt issues | 12:45 |
| brainwash | and it's targeting xubu default settings | 12:45 |
| brainwash | so, someone has to stop this madness :) | 12:46 |
| ochosi | right so do something other than subscribing me | 12:46 |
| brainwash | should I tell you to write a comment instead? | 12:47 |
| ochosi | you should write one yourself | 12:49 |
| ochosi | you know pretty much as much as i do about this issue | 12:49 |
| brainwash | right, it's fixed | 12:49 |
| ochosi | it's fixed or a different issue | 12:50 |
| brainwash | any suggestion for a new target package? | 12:50 |
| brainwash | apparently it cannot be fixed in xubu default settings | 12:51 |
| brainwash | because there is nothing to fix | 12:51 |
| ochosi | not sure, could be anything, from graphics driver to x11 | 12:55 |
| ochosi | anyway, i'm going back to ignoring that bugreport now | 12:55 |
| ochosi | lderan: since feature freeze is only two days away I'm presuming we're postponing your workitem (GUI for panel-switch)? | 13:05 |
| knome | if it's almost ready or sth, i could work on the exception paperwork | 13:08 |
| knome | given that it would be ready soon, that is | 13:08 |
| ochosi | not sure that lderan has even started | 13:09 |
| ochosi | i mean it shouldn't be so hard, since the app is already there and does what it should | 13:09 |
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| slickymasterWork | Language: FinnishStatus: 99,75%Untranslated: 2 <- https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/utopic | 14:16 |
| slickymasterWork | knome ^^ | 14:16 |
| knome | bah | 14:17 |
| knome | it's going to get prodded down anyway, no reason to sweat now ;) | 14:17 |
| slickymasterWork | lol, I know | 14:18 |
| knome | besides, i just finished a translation for a wordpress plugin and fixed a lot of stupid mistakes and badly translated strings in it | 14:18 |
| slickymasterWork | about this morning ping, when you see you have the time to spare on those items ping me, please | 14:18 |
| knome | i'm not even using it (except for a client), but i got so annoyed by the stupid translations that i thought i'd just fix it ;) | 14:18 |
| knome | i will | 14:19 |
| slickymasterWork | a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do | 14:19 |
| knome | i guess i could have theoretically charged the client for that, but it somehow didn't feel right.. :) | 14:20 |
| slickymasterWork | :) | 14:21 |
| mhall119 | hey guys, we're having pleia2 on in ~30 for the Community Team Q&A if you can help promote it on Xubuntu's social media accounts: http://ubuntuonair.com/ | 14:29 |
| knome | mhall119, do you have a tweet about it? | 14:30 |
| mhall119 | knome: https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/501735865367150592 | 14:32 |
| knome | ah. | 14:32 |
| knome | https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/501738674749730816 | 14:33 |
| knome | tweeted. | 14:33 |
| knome | wondering what those "horrible customizations" are? https://twitter.com/DrTuxWang/status/497611065698820097 | 14:35 |
| knome | and by what means are we "infected by unity libraries" ? | 14:35 |
| ali1234 | lol, unity libraries actually break xubuntu | 14:42 |
| ali1234 | he could be talking about indicators though i suppose | 14:42 |
| pleia2 | getting ready for zee hangout | 14:51 |
| knome | ali1234, if i'm connecting the dots correctly, he's a person with a ban on #xubuntu... | 15:06 |
| elfy | ochosi: so - using org..xfce.thunar.policy doesn't work - on a seperate note the policy file I have that does work has that allow_gui in it | 15:21 |
| ochosi | elfy: i'll ask eric to specifically review our policy files as he seems to know more about all this | 15:23 |
| elfy | good plan :) | 15:24 |
| elfy | no good me doing it - I'll just flounder and thrash about for a bit getting no closer to the shore :p | 15:24 |
| elfy | ochosi: did you see my garbled message this morning re the jog in parole issue? | 15:28 |
| elfy | or rather - see it and understand :p | 15:28 |
| ochosi | elfy: if i understood you correctly, you said that the issue in gstreamer1.0 with skipping has been fixed | 16:02 |
| elfy | good :) | 16:05 |
| ochosi | any clue yet whether that'll be backported to trusty? | 16:05 |
| elfy | none - is it a bug in trusty then - because I never noticed that | 16:07 |
| ochosi | hm, i thought i had seen that | 16:08 |
| ochosi | can't be sure now though (too tired after a day in the office) | 16:09 |
| elfy | :) | 16:09 |
| ochosi | elfy: eric was kind enough to review the policy files and they're ok as is | 16:23 |
| elfy | awesome :) | 16:25 |
| elfy | I knew they *worked* - but making sure they're ok for anyone else was something else entirely | 16:25 |
| ochosi | elfy: yup, in any case, well done! (and thanks) | 16:49 |
| brainwash | the thunar policy file is missing pkexec in the filename | 16:53 |
| brainwash | com.ubuntu.pkexec.mousepad.policy | 16:53 |
| brainwash | com.ubuntu.thunar.policy | 16:53 |
| brainwash | just ignore this fact? | 16:53 |
| slickymasterWork | bbl -> | 17:07 |
| elfy | screens blanking after 10 minutes for some reason - set to never | 19:15 |
| ochosi | elfy: 10mins is the default time, you're controlling it via xfpm? | 19:16 |
| elfy | yea - set to never | 19:16 |
| elfy | was ok the other day | 19:16 |
| elfy | xset -q is showing screen saver timeout at 600 | 19:17 |
| ochosi | right | 19:17 |
| ochosi | then something's not working | 19:17 |
| elfy | yep | 19:17 |
| ochosi | maybe a regression, i'll investigate | 19:18 |
| elfy | ok - basically I have everything set to never - always, hence knowing when something's up :) | 19:18 |
| ochosi | yup | 19:19 |
| elfy | ochosi: you got any idea when you'll be setting the next meeting? time mostly I'm interested in | 19:21 |
| ochosi | i think i wanna do one next week, to be able to review FF and potential FFe | 19:26 |
| ochosi | so something like tue or wed, 11UTC | 19:26 |
| ochosi | elfy: can you check the settings in xfce4-settings-editor for xfpm plz? | 19:27 |
| ochosi | blank-on-ac and blank-on-battery are the values we're interested in | 19:27 |
| ochosi | (in minutes) | 19:27 |
| elfy | ochosi: blank-on-ac is 0 and blank-on-battery si not there at all - no battery here, desktop | 19:30 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 19:30 |
| ochosi | well good to know, i'll have to dig further though what's broken | 19:30 |
| ochosi | bbabl | 19:30 |
| elfy | ok | 19:30 |
| bluesabre | hey everyone | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: renamed the policy file in lp:xubuntu-default-settings | 23:14 |
| bluesabre | It'd be cool if the bots added links for lp: addresses | 23:14 |
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