SamwiseGamgeetesting, can you see this message?00:54
SamwiseGamgeemsg rww I emailed the ban appeal on August 1201:07
Dr_DanI have question,  i have Xubuntu 14.04.1 on a asus netbook.  I see problems with ACPI and xcfe-power  where if you set 'Do nothing' when lid closes it -still- seems to Suspend01:19
PhoenixSTFDr_Dan: I have the same issue has well, but did not have the time to figure it out01:44
PhoenixSTFI think I will test it tomorow and check what can be done01:45
Dr_DanPhoenixSTF:   this is what it shows...   http://i61.tinypic.com/254v4ms.jpg01:58
Dr_DanBut it will still suspend when you close lid  :-(02:00
David-A_Dr_Dan: 1) you are crossposting in #ubuntu. 2) I don't see your image at tinypic, see: http://ctrlv.in/411549 (maybe they require javascript)02:12
Dr_DanDavid_A: sorry.  Try this:  i61.tinypic.com/254v4ms.jpg02:37
David-A_Dr_Dan: that's the same url, and the site still requires javascript02:41
Dr_DanOk. Sorry.  Anyways it Power Manager applet in  System Settings.  Second panel which "On AC Power".  It says 'when laptop lid is closed :  Do nothing"02:44
Dr_DanFollow so far?02:44
David-A_Dr_Dan: ok, I dont know what the problem is, but for future reference, you could use an image site that does not require js to look at the image. (the one I used does not even require js to post an image)02:57
Dr_DanBut if i close the lid,  it immediately goes to Suspend mode.  So its like xcfe-manager is ignoring settings.03:02
ToZDr_Dan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/130754503:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1307545 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:07
Dr_DanXfce4-power-manager has a bug then?  Ok.  Is there git build with fix?  Or wait for next update?03:09
cfhowlettDr_Dan, read the bug report for current status03:09
ToZIt has been fixed in 1.3, but as I understand it, it won't be backported to previous versions. There is a workaround in that bug report.03:10
ToZYou'll have to wait for utopic for the official fix03:10
Dr_DanOk.  Looks like workaround is to to set HandleLidSwitch=ignore in logind.conf.   Does that sound right?03:13
ToZDr_Dan, yes. And make sure you uncomment that line (remove the hash mark).03:14
Dr_DanGot it.  Will try that tonite.  Thank ToZ.   G'Nite03:15
ToZDr_Dan, you need to reboot for it to take effect.03:16
Dr_DanOk.  Copy that.03:16
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vrkalakhey, baizon .... o/05:45
ner0xI have to set my keyboard shortcuts Alt+{F1..F4} to switch desktops every time I log in; any idea why that might be?05:49
RedDevil_Sorry, may be it's reserved shortcuts ... And in this case try to check, before you set it for your own, what they do by default/05:52
ner0xI have it set on my laptop with no issues. It's just odd.06:06
RedDevil_ner0x, you use Xubuntu?06:11
RedDevil_ner0x, I use Xubuntu, and in Xubuntu shortcuts Alt+(F1, F2, F3) used by default.06:24
ner0xRedDevil_: Right, I changed them.06:24
RedDevil_ok And if I right understand you, for this shortcuts you set changing desktops?06:26
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dethredicI'm running Xubuntu and last night I pull down a software update (may or may not be related). This morning (after a power cycle) when I maximize windows I no longer see the titlebar.13:26
dethredicMy monitor's resolution is correct, and my mouse can only go to the top of the screen13:26
dethredicI tried deleting all of my session data but that didn't help13:26
RedDevil_On your machine proprietary driver for video card installed?13:27
dethredicRedDevil_: Nope13:29
dethredicI have an integrated intel graphics13:29
RedDevil_In this case it strange ... because I have same problem, but it begins in errors in driver13:31
dethredicRedDevil_: hrmm13:36
dethredicI was told to log out and delete my session data13:37
dethredicI'm gonna try that in a bit13:37
RedDevil_Sorry, I try to find app that I connected to Mail Reader, or Browser link, don't remember, some thing like Display, or may be something else ... sorry, I really don't remember. Why I talk about it, because if you try to delete Mail Reader or may be Browser, and after it restart your PC, you can get very same action, and if you install back this deleted App, all works fine ) Sorry for randomly talking and confused things, I from Belarus, and not good i13:48
RedDevil_n English :)13:48
GatisHow to to switch Desktops with shortkey?14:29
xubuntu533i'm new to linux14:44
xubuntu533hi all14:44
xubuntu533having problems learning how to use command prompts and find drivers14:45
ObrienDavedrivers for???14:46
xubuntu533an external hard drive isn't mounting14:47
xubuntu533and when i play video the laptop crashes14:47
ObrienDavedo you know how to use the command line in a terminal?14:52
xubuntu533I think so, open terminal and put in the command prompt, right?14:53
ObrienDavepretty much, yes. that's a good start :)14:53
ObrienDavewhat video card do you have?14:54
xubuntu533how do i find that out?14:54
ObrienDavewell, before that, do you know how to pastebin?14:55
xubuntu533is there a good web page with a list of command prompts?14:55
ObrienDavethe prompt is what shows you where you are in the directory structure. you mean command list :)14:56
xubuntu533thanks :)14:57
xubuntu533so is there an equivlent to control panel on xubuntu?14:57
ObrienDaveso, in a terminal, you can enter "info" or "help" to see a synopsis of terminal commands14:58
ObrienDaveyes, the settings manager is pretty much the same as control panel14:58
ObrienDavetry those commands in a terminal if you like14:59
ObrienDaveinfo will give you a longer list that you can navigate up and down with cursor keys, scroll wheel. type q to quit15:00
xubuntu533I put in info, just reading it now15:00
xubuntu533so how do I find out why the externl drive isn't mounting15:02
ObrienDavegood. now if you need more info on a command, type man <command>, where <command> is the one you want. like "man ls" for example15:02
ObrienDavei assume it's a USB formatted to NTFS15:03
xubuntu533it's an old internal hard drive taken out of a netbook and put in a case15:03
xubuntu533pluged in by usb15:03
holsteinxubuntu533: "old" may be broken15:04
ObrienDaveok, does it work on any other system?15:04
holsteini would test the drive.. i like gsmartcontrol15:04
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount15:04
xubuntu533I ran gsmartcontrol15:09
ObrienDavedid the drive show up?15:10
xubuntu533About to execute gsmartcontrol. This command needs root privileges to be executed. Using sudo... Enter ollie password at prompt. [sudo] password for ollie:  <warn>  [hz] Warning: exit: Device open failed, or device did not return an IDENTIFY DEVICE structure. <warn>  [app] execute_smartctl(): Error while executing smartctl binary. <warn>  [app] StorageDevice::execute_device_smartctl(): Error while executing smartctl binary. <warn15:10
xubuntu533that#s what it said15:11
ObrienDavedo this for now, sudo apt-get install pastebinit15:11
xubuntu533in the terminal?15:11
ObrienDaveyou can copy and paste to the terminal15:13
ObrienDavedid it install?15:15
ObrienDavedo, uname -a         and paste the line here please15:16
xubuntu5333.13.0-34-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:45:27 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:27
xubuntu533there you go dave15:27
xubuntu533does that make sense in relation to the hard drive15:27
xubuntu533so on linux all hard drive are the same ?15:27
ObrienDaveno, but it tells me you are on the latest 64bit system15:28
ObrienDavetry this, lsblk | pastebinit15:29
ObrienDavepost the URL please15:29
xubuntu533can you explain to my what pastebin is please?15:29
holsteinxubuntu533: i use "gksudo gsmartcontrol" and i look for the drive... but if its mounting and working on another system..15:30
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com15:30
xubuntu533I've googled it but am a bit confused how it relates to my problems15:30
holsteinxubuntu533: it allows you to more easiler share information with the volunteers here assisting you15:30
ObrienDavepastebin keep you from being muted or irritating people with multiple lines of text output. for your protection LOL15:31
holsteinxubuntu533: is the drive working on another operating system?15:31
holsteinby "working".. read and write, and acting "normal" ?15:32
xubuntu533hang on have a person at the door, will be bac15:32
xubuntu533thanks for help so far15:32
xubuntu533the drive worked on windows vista on the same laptop15:37
xubuntu533i've open pastebin how do i use it?15:37
ObrienDavewell try this first, lsblk15:38
xubuntu533in pastebin15:38
ObrienDaveno in terminal15:39
ObrienDavesee the tree structure?15:39
ObrienDavenow do, lsblk | pastebinit15:39
ObrienDavepost the URL here15:39
xubuntu533one sec15:39
holsteinxubuntu533: sure. what do you  mean by "the drive worked" ? if you dont konw that it is working, then i would test it.. if you havent seen it factually working just now, test it15:41
holsteini use "gksudo gsmartcontrol" to run gsmartcontrol with root access15:42
xubuntu533dave i'm having to register to pastebin15:43
holsteinxubuntu533: dont15:44
xubuntu533holstein I have run gsmartcontrol15:44
holsteinxubuntu533: just use http://paste.ubuntu.com/15:44
xubuntu533do what with it?15:44
holsteinxubuntu533: paste your output there.. dont "overthink" this.. just share the data15:44
holsteinxubuntu533: you open http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the output of "lsblk" there.. you hit "paste!" button, and share back the link you get15:45
xubuntu533to your username/15:46
xubuntu533got it15:46
ObrienDaveyou get something like this; http://paste.ubuntu.com/8089925/15:46
xubuntu533that's the lsblk15:46
holsteinxubuntu533: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8089929/15:47
holsteinxubuntu533: after you press "the button" you get the link to your paste that you can share15:47
holsteinxubuntu533: no15:48
holsteinxubuntu533: see how the link you *just* pasted has no numbers in it?15:48
ObrienDaveLOL copy and paster the URL at the top of the screen. should look like our examples15:48
holsteinxubuntu533: that link is just to the main ubuntu paste site http://paste.ubuntu.com/8089929/15:48
xubuntu533do i have to put my username in then?15:50
ObrienDaveanything you like will do15:50
ObrienDaveYAY! \o/15:51
xubuntu533that's the gsmart one15:51
holsteinxubuntu533: you have been asked to post "lsblk"15:52
xubuntu533had two requests15:52
xubuntu533that's the lsblk15:52
holsteinxubuntu533: the USB drive is an 160 GB external usb drive?15:53
ObrienDaveunder settings, open "removable drives and media"15:53
ObrienDavestorage tab, top 2 boxes checked?15:54
ObrienDaveopen a file browser, does the USB show in the drive list on the left?15:55
xubuntu533in the the systems manager? yes15:57
ObrienDavecan you access the drive from the file manager?15:57
xubuntu533no same problem15:58
ObrienDavewhat does it say?15:58
ObrienDavewhat does it do?15:58
holsteini would issue the mount command from the terminal, and see the errors..15:58
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount15:58
holsteini would use "gksudo gsmartcontrol" to run a test on the drive that would take about an hour, and read the results15:59
holsteinbut, that drive seems to just need exfat support15:59
xubuntu533is that a command?16:00
ObrienDaveis that drive formatted NTFS or FAT32 or exFAT?16:00
holsteinxubuntu533: i disagree16:01
holsteinxubuntu533: i read exfat16:01
xubuntu533ok it must be exfat then16:01
ObrienDavexubuntu533, no things that start with ! are ubottu info commands16:01
ObrienDavesuch as,16:02
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)16:02
xubuntu533 tag:launchpad.net:2008:redacted  More info: https://launchpad.net/~relan/+archive/ubuntu/exfat Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it  gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpqrmmtyjp/secring.gpg' created gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpqrmmtyjp/pubring.gpg' created gpg: "tag:launchpad.net:2008:redacted" not a key ID: skipping ollie@ollie-Presario-F500-GH835EA-ABU:~$ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat16:04
xubuntu533that was what happened after added exfat16:04
holsteinxubuntu533: friend.. open just one terminal.. and do *exactly* as i type.. paste them in16:06
holsteinsudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat16:06
holsteinxubuntu533: done?16:06
xubuntu533yes, thank you all :)16:07
holsteinxubuntu533: actually, you dont even need those16:07
holsteinxubuntu533: just do..16:07
holsteinsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse16:07
holsteinxubuntu533: are you done with that?16:07
xubuntu533sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils16:07
xubuntu533thT ONE DID IT16:07
holsteinxubuntu533: if so, you'll need to reboot to get them to take effect16:07
xubuntu533cheers holstien16:07
holsteinxubuntu533: then, you should be able to click on the drive from the left side of the file manager16:07
xubuntu533it works now16:08
holsteinxubuntu533: enjoy16:08
xubuntu533erm, any ideas about why my video might be crashing ?16:08
holsteinxubuntu533: sure16:08
holsteinxubuntu533: hardware support of linux16:08
ObrienDaveyou need to find out which card16:08
xubuntu533how do i do that?16:09
holsteini would look for and try proprietary drivers if there are any for the device16:09
holsteinxubuntu533: i would start with..16:09
holstein!details | xubuntu53316:09
ubottuxubuntu533: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)16:09
holsteinhow is what crashing when..16:09
xubuntu533ok, when i was watching an mp4 file it would keep freezing16:10
holsteinxubuntu533: what would? the entire desktop? or the file? what player? where did you get what my4 you tested? did you test any other file types? what codec do you have installed?16:11
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:12
xubuntu533entire desktop16:12
holsteini would test other filetypes.. i would try vlc16:12
holstein!info vlc16:12
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1 (trusty), package size 1170 kB, installed size 3604 kB16:12
holsteini would make sure i have the proper codecs installed.. then, i would move on to graphics driver support16:12
xubuntu533on vlc and parole16:12
holsteinxubuntu533: ok16:13
holsteinxubuntu533: as i said, i would try *other* video files.. other types.. see that i have the proper codecs installed. then, i would look at the graphics driver support16:13
xubuntu533i think it is the graphics driver, how do I get to the graphics driver from settings16:13
holsteinxubuntu533: the graphics driver is just included in the kernel16:14
xubuntu533on windows I used k lite codecs is there are good equivilient on linux16:14
ObrienDaveyou could look up the model number specs for your laptop16:14
holsteinxubuntu533: there are also proprietary ones for some devices16:14
holsteinxubuntu533: i gave a link above already to codec information16:14
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:14
ObrienDavexubuntu533, do this, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras16:15
holsteini agree ..^ that wont hurt anything, and will either give you support or not.. then, you can move on knowing that the issue is likely not the codec support16:16
xubuntu533i have googled this, but am still not clear how to get to the drivers or the hardware on settings16:17
xubuntu533I'm dyslexic and find it much easier to work things through like this16:18
ObrienDavexubuntu533, we'll get there, we are going through more common things to eliminate other possibilities16:18
xubuntu533shall i try and play a vid see if it works ok now?16:19
ObrienDaveyou can, if not, reboot and try16:19
holsteinxubuntu533: did you install xubuntu-restricted-extras ?16:20
xubuntu533I have something playing see what happens16:21
xubuntu533so how do i get to the drivers and hardware?16:22
holsteinyou are sitting at the hardware.. the drivers are just in the kernel16:22
holsteinxubuntu533: there may or may not be proprietary driver options.. in order to suggest some, again, we need !details16:22
ObrienDavewhat make and model is your laptop?16:23
xubuntu533ok how do i find out what my vid card?16:23
holsteinxubuntu533: i would ask the manufacturer.. or, open a terminal and run "lspci" and i would share that output in a pastebin if i needed help understanding it16:24
xubuntu533so on windows i would go to my comp and properties16:24
holsteinxubuntu533: sure.. this is not windows16:24
holsteinxubuntu533: there is no need to just install those drivers if the video seems to be playing fine now16:26
holsteinxubuntu533: i suggest testing the video, and waiting for another lockup16:26
xubuntu533 NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6100] (rev a2)16:26
xubuntu533so far so good16:27
xubuntu533think it was the codecs16:27
holsteinsure.. so, there are proprietary options.. you can find them in the "software sources" tab.. but, again, i would wait16:27
ObrienDavexubuntu533, short answer, "If it works, DON'T try to fix it" ;P16:27
xubuntu533I'm just getting used to using commands to find out and alter stuff :016:27
holsteinxubuntu533: sure.. just dont alter things16:28
xubuntu533does anyone find that adding apps to firefow can effect linux16:28
xubuntu533and is it worth having a firewall?16:28
ObrienDavea firewall is a necessary evil16:29
xubuntu533so do i put in ufw into terminal?16:31
ObrienDaveand adding apps to firefox should not affect Linux. but, you never know16:31
ObrienDavetry it ;P16:32
xubuntu533cool, did the sudo ufw etc16:33
xubuntu533all good thanks guys you have been a great help16:33
ObrienDaveour pleasure, come back and help when you can, and welcome to the world of Ubuntu :)16:34
xubuntu533will do16:35
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SkutovHi there, I'm having a bit of trouble mounting an SD card, I had it mounted earlier, removed it, re-inserted it and it won't mount one of the partitions on the card now, whenever I try to mount the card it gives the error 'mount: File exists' Does anyone know what's up with this and/or how to fix the problem? (The other partition on the SD card mounts automatically and is fine)16:44
holsteinouch.. hope its not broken, or failing..16:44
SkutovDoesn't seem to be, it's a kingston one and I've been using it in a raspberry pi for the last few months.16:45
holsteini would try and test and be sure.. try taking it to another box if you have one handy..16:46
SkutovI'll give it a go, one sec.16:47
SkutovAll seems fine, and if I do check filesystem in gparted it says no error found.16:57
indroraSkutov, Where is it trying to be mounted?17:08
Skutovindrora, in /media/username/ I believed17:09
indroraSkutov, what's in /media/<username>/ ? Because if there's a directory tree that *has things in it*, mount will grumble that it doesn't like mounting over an existing filesystem.17:10
indroraSimplest case is you remove the SD card, remove anything where gvfs is mounting things, and try again17:11
SkutovThe file it's trying to mount into is empty, how do I go about seeing what gvfs is mounting?17:29
indroraIs it a file or a directory?17:36
indrora@ Skutov17:37
SkutovDirectory sorry.17:37
indroraSkutov, Best guess would be to remove that directory. Otherwise, I'm not sure if `dmesg | tail` would yield anything helpful here :\17:42
GeoDudeI recently ran the software updater, and afterwards I started getting this https://db.tt/COXmJXIg18:41
GeoDudea few days and a few reboots later, I still get it occasionally18:41
holsteinGeoDude: did you add a ppa for php?18:42
GeoDudeThe only ppa's I've added were the google chrome ppas18:42
holsteinGeoDude: what are you running php with/for ?18:43
GeoDudeI'm running php for nginx18:43
GeoDudeas part of LEMP18:43
holsteinGeoDude: i would confirm all my php configs, and try testing without them.. i would make sure there are no other updates, and apply them and test if so.. i would try a server channel18:46
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server18:46
m3n3chm0hello, I'm issued with this dependency in Xubuntu 14.04 installing vlc18:49
m3n3chm0libavformat55 : Depende: librtmp1 (>= 2.3) que es un paquete virtual.18:49
m3n3chm0i can't install it18:49
holsteinm3n3chm0: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc18:50
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:50
holstein^ share error output18:50
m3n3chm0i've already done before rebooting sudo aptitude update18:51
m3n3chm0now i'm going to paste in a link what i get as error.. wait :)18:51
holsteinm3n3chm0: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc18:52
m3n3chm0here you got18:54
holsteinm3n3chm0: i would.. "sudo apt-get autoremove vlc" ..then, see that "sudo apt-get update" completes without error18:56
holsteinif it does.. then, i would run.. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. then, try reinstalling vlc18:57
m3n3chm0thanks holstein18:59
m3n3chm0the issue was i had this repo enabled ppa:n-muench/vlc  so18:59
holsteinm3n3chm0: thats not a repo. its an unsupported ppa18:59
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge18:59
m3n3chm0now i'm purging it so then i hope to fix this issue18:59
holsteinm3n3chm0: you can purge it, and try.. or ask the maintainer of the ppa for support18:59
m3n3chm0yes you're right18:59
holsteinm3n3chm0: good luck18:59
m3n3chm0no problem, just delete it and use the offical vlc repo :)19:00
m3n3chm0thanks for your support mate, APPRECIATE19:00
holsteintry ppa purge, and the one in the official repos19:00
holstein!Info ppa-purge19:00
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:01
holsteinbazhang: :)19:01
holsteinits more than just removing the sources.. that can leave some "broken" versions behind.. ppa-purge tries to help with that19:01
m3n3chm0holstein fixed :)19:09
m3n3chm0now i have vlc official, no dependencies anymore jaja19:10
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dethredicI'm having an odd problem. Titlebars on my windows don't show up when the window is maxamized. I did do an update last night (may or may not be related)19:42
dethredicI tried clearing out my xfce session data but that didn't help19:42
xubuntu784Hi there! Anyone got some news about the wifi problems in the new 14.04 ? My wifi connexion is unstable and can't stay connected more than 5 minutes... I have to reconnect again every time (and it doesn't work all the time :/).20:03
eatsleepsuplexrecan anyone help me with reinstalling ubuntu21:11
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate21:11
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: it'll be just like installing was.. you'll just do it again :)21:12
pjotterHi everyone. Just upgraded to 14.04 and noticed that automatic mounting of NAS fails at startup. It seems that my network is not ready at that time. Mounting by adding a sleep 30 and mount command in /etc/rc.mount seems to fix this. However, there might be a better sollution to this problem? Anyone?21:12
holsteini would make sure i have *any* and all data i want or need21:12
eatsleepsuplexreyeah its just, when i put in the usb... no matter what i do , (boot menu, from usb first hdd second) the grub menu always comes up first.. and theres no option to reinstall21:12
pjotterI meant /etc/rc.local21:12
garandilpjotter, what service are you using?21:12
Dragon64xubuntu784 -- what wifi chipset you using?21:12
holsteinDragon64: user is gone21:13
pjottergarandil: What do you mean by 'service'?21:13
garandilCIFS or NFS?21:13
Dragon64o ha21:13
garandilor iSCSI21:13
pjotterCIFS. But I also tried NFS, same problems.21:13
garandiltry to add _netdev in /etc/fstab21:13
garandilunder options21:13
pjotterI also tried adding _netdev to the fstab options. But that didn't work.21:14
garandilpjotter, that's strange21:14
eatsleepsuplexreive been through those help sites before.. my problem is not installing, its getting the usb installer to work before the grub boot menu where i can choose my os21:14
garandileatsleepsuplexre, BIOS/EFI boot options21:15
pjotterWell, a search on the internet revelas a lot of people having the same problem. I have been having this problem for a long time now. Also in 12.04. I was hoping that it would be fixed in 14.04. But unfortunately the problem remains.21:15
eatsleepsuplexreyes, boot usb first , it doesnt change the grub loader21:15
pjotterIt would be great if I could figure out how to make a script that waits for the network to come up and then mount the NAS. I could put that it in /etc/rc.local. Unfortunately, most scripts I tried sofar failed because the -e option is set in the bash of /etc/rc.local.21:18
eatsleepsuplexrethis is so annoying i cant explain myself properly to people21:18
eatsleepsuplexrefucking over this bullshit21:18
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:19
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: if you want to reinstall, its just like when you installed the first time. did you install xubuntu 14.04? from USB?21:19
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: why are you trying to reinstall?21:20
eatsleepsuplexrei have windows 8 , and ubuntu now, no matter what i do in bios, i cannot boot usb before the grub menu21:20
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: you'll just point the bios of the hardware to the USB stick again, and do the same.. and you will get the system reinstalled21:20
eatsleepsuplexrethe grub = first, usb startup = non existant21:20
eatsleepsuplexrei did point it to it.. i have eufi that can boot from usb21:20
eatsleepsuplexrei also went into my bios and manually selected21:20
eatsleepsuplexreusb first21:21
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: most machines have a key combination that can make the USB boot21:21
eatsleepsuplexrehdd second21:21
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:21
eatsleepsuplexrethe install was fine , i screwed up now i want to repair the whole damn system21:21
eatsleepsuplexreor reinstall fresh21:21
garandilpjotter, I'm poking around to see, I got CIFS mounting up without problems21:21
eatsleepsuplexrebut grub wont let me use my usb21:21
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: grub doesnt boot the usb21:22
eatsleepsuplexrei know but it boots before it21:22
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: the machine will boot the bootloader on the usb21:22
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: sure.. stop doing it that way, and look into making the machine boot the USB as you did before..21:23
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: grub, installed on the internal hard drive is not intended to boot the USB installer21:23
eatsleepsuplexrei cry21:23
eatsleepsuplexreforget it21:23
eatsleepsuplexrehow can i repair a screwed up ubuntu that has no desktop21:24
eatsleepsuplexreand says low res mode21:24
eatsleepsuplexrebecause i installed the wrong open source amd ppa driver , now sudo aticonfig --uninstall wont work, apt-get install fglrx wont work, because it says " cannot uninstall aticonfig because files have been changed"21:25
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: i would look into the graphics drivers21:25
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: i would purge the unsupported ppa's and try getting back to stock21:25
eatsleepsuplexreso icant get any drivers for my gfx , i cant get a desktop ,  nothing just blackness21:25
eatsleepsuplexreand a console21:25
garandileatsleepsuplexre, tried to use remove with -f on the installed package?21:26
Hedgeworkeatsleepsuplexre: there are very few things that can't be fixed from the console...and those can't be fixed at all.21:26
eatsleepsuplexrei dont know how ok21:26
eatsleepsuplexreim sorry but i am really new, and this is why i wanted to install fresh21:26
eatsleepsuplexreeverything was going fine until i tried to install this stupid driver because my shaders 3.0 wasnt working21:27
Hedgeworkeatsleepsuplexre: That's okay, let's start with some basics.  You keep saying that you cannot get your machine to boot to USB...are you getting an error, or does the machine just boot to an internal drive instead?21:27
eatsleepsuplexreit just goes straight to grub21:27
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: you are in the low resolution safe mode, correct?21:27
HedgeworkYou realize that the boot USB has grub on it, too, right?21:27
eatsleepsuplexrei know the usb works, i know boot to usb works, because a few hours ago i Installed ubuntu on the same damn usb21:27
eatsleepsuplexreand i havent even taken it out of the slot..21:27
Hedgework(at least if you did it the usual way)21:27
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: please watch the language and attitude. i relize you are frustrated, but we are all only about volunteering assistance for you, and want to help21:29
eatsleepsuplexreim sorry but im confused21:29
Hedgeworkeatsleepsuplexre: I need to afk for a minute (I'm still at work), but I'll try to help when I get back.21:30
eatsleepsuplexremaybe il just delete the whole ubuntu partiton from my windows21:30
eatsleepsuplexrewill that get rid of grub ?21:30
garandilGRUB is installed in the MBR21:31
eatsleepsuplexrethis is probably why its overriding the usb boot for ubuntu21:31
garandilif you are to remove it from Windows you also need to run the command prompt, but you can revert installed packages21:32
eatsleepsuplexrei thought there woulda been a failsafe command in ubuntu like fdisk for windows21:33
eatsleepsuplexrethat checks every package and reverts it back to original setting or something21:33
eatsleepsuplexrelike a repair21:34
garandileatsleepsuplexre, you can remove the installed driver21:34
pjotter1garandil: I might have found a sollution, but need to reboot. brb21:34
eatsleepsuplexrei cant it wont let me lol21:34
eatsleepsuplexreit says its changed21:34
garandilpjotter1, ok21:34
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: the internal grub is not blocking the usb from booting21:36
holsteineatsleepsuplexre: i would choose to either fix the grahpics issue, or work with the bios to make the USB stick boot again21:36
pjotterit seems to work :)21:40
garandilpjotter, what did you do?21:40
pjotterJust a small addition to the /etc/rc.local script21:40
pjotterWait, I'll make a paste21:41
pjottergarandil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8092443/21:41
pjotterThe echo's are not really nessecary as they will not be visible during booting.21:42
pjotterThe "/dev/null 2>&1" in this script is very important. If you just use "/dev/null" the script will not work as the -e option is used in the bash.21:44
pjotterBut this seems to work just fine.21:44
pjotterTried it a couple of times and the Nas was mounted very nicely.21:44
pjotterAnother question: Are people aware that there is a little problem with the panel-Trash-icon in Xubuntu? The status is not displayed correctly when you log out and in again. If there is something in the trash and the icon will display an empty trash. This was also a problem in 12.04. I fixed this with a small script too.21:49
pjotterYou just need to put a dummy-file in the trash and remove it from the trash. Then the status is updated and the correct status is displayed on the icon.21:50
knomejoaoso, hello22:01
joaosohi knome. i'm having a little problem and tried to find some solution online and nothing22:03
knomejust ask the question; if somebody knows the answer, they'll most probably reply22:03
joaosobasically i login on xubuntu and the launcher doesnt appear22:05
knomedo you see anything else?22:06
joaosojust the wallpaper22:06
knomejoaoso, what happens if you press alt+f2?22:06
joaosofind apps22:07
knomeok, type xfce4-panel and run it22:07
joaosocant run it. says that the file does not exist22:09
knomeok, then open a terminal, and type xfce4-panel there22:09
knomedo you get some kind of error then?22:09
joaosoyes. isnt installed22:11
knomeright, then you'll have to install it22:12
knomeonce you've done that, run the command again22:12
joaosoyeah, i already do that22:12
brainwashpjotter: people = devs?22:13
brainwashpjotter: looks like you've already commented on the launchpad report which addresses the issue22:15
pjotterWhich launchpadreport?22:16
brainwashbug 88053322:16
ubottubug 880533 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar reports Trash Empty when it is not" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88053322:16
pjotterIndeed I have.22:16
brainwashso it also affects the trash panel plugin22:17
pjotterI only noticed problems with the trash panel plugin.22:17
brainwashis the trash icon enabled on the desktop?22:18
joaosothis is awkward, i dont have a full "bar". Does the latest version of xfce working properly with nvidia drivers?22:19
pjotterbrainwash: This happens whether or not the desktop trash icon is enabled or not.22:19
knomejoaoso, i have no problems with that.22:20
brainwashpjotter: I suggest that you add a comment to the linked upstream report22:21
pjotterI think most users won't notice because they probably use the desktop trash icon. I like to disable that one and enabele the panel trash icon instead.22:21
knomejoaoso, are you sure you haven't removed other core components or something similar?22:21
pjotterbrainwash: What should I comment? I told them pretty much all I know22:21
brainwashpjotter: to bump the report, so it's more likely to be seen :)22:23
joaosoyes, this is a fresh install. i installed the nvidia drivers and reboot22:23
joaosologin and thats it22:24
pjotterbrainwash: Ah, I see.22:24
knomejoaoso, how come you didn't have xfce4-panel installed then?22:24
joaosogood question22:24
brainwashpjotter: other than that, I doubt that it will be fixed any time soon22:25
brainwashpjotter: moreover, it does not affect the default Xubuntu setup22:25
pjotterdefault Xubuntu setup?22:25
brainwashdefault xubuntu desktop config22:26
pjotterIt's in the default installation.22:26
pjotterI just tested it yesterday with 14.04 fresh install. Same problem.22:26
pjotter14.04.1 even22:26
brainwashbut you've added the panel trash icon22:27
pjotterOk, I see what you mean.22:27
joaosothis happend  to me  once and i installed xubuntu again. now i'm here22:27
pjotterYes, most people won't notice untill they start using the panel icon22:27
brainwashfeel free to investigate further, maybe you can manage to fix this little annoyance with a patch :)22:27
pjotterI consider that icon to be avaliable by default so...22:27
pjotterI suspect someone forgot to do a status-update somewhere in the code.22:28
pjotterI never really looked into any code really.22:28
brainwashyou can join #xfce-dev and ask questions specific to the source code (if you need help)22:29
FRodrigueshi my power manager does not change22:32
FRodriguesthe sattings22:32
brainwashFRodrigues: which settings exactly? all of them?22:34
brainwashcan you give an example please?22:34
FRodriguesI only want my pc to lock when i close the lid22:35
FRodriguesso i put in the actions tab in "on ac"22:35
FRodriguesLock screen22:36
FRodriguesafter "when the lid is closed:"22:36
brainwashbut it suspends the laptop instead?22:36
brainwashbug 130754522:37
ubottubug 1307545 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130754522:37
brainwashit's a known issue22:37
pjotterThere seem to be more problems with the new 14.04 version and laptops. I can't toggle the wifi on my Eee anymore for example.22:37
brainwashpjotter: but that's a rather specific issue I'd guess22:38
brainwashpjotter: did you already search for a bug report on launchpad?22:38
pjotterbrainwash: Still workinh on it. But from what I read on the internet, it is specific to a number of laptops. Eee is just one of many who have these kinds of problems.22:38
pjotterbrainwash: I have come across some bugreports that mention these problems. But I haven't had time to look into it properly.22:39
SelenaG!ops | help channel emergency22:39
ubottuhelp channel emergency: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - gnomefreak, cody-somerville, TheSheep, Myrtti, Pricey, knome, charlie-tca, bazhang, ikonia, Flannel, elky, mneptok, Pici, pleia2, Unit193 or astraljava!22:39
FRodriguesbrainwash, thanks for the link22:41
brainwashpjotter: the new kernel version or firmware files could be the reason22:41
stiv2k_XFCE4 is still blanking my monitor even though i dont have any screensaver enabled and i disabled DMPS and all that23:23
stiv2k_how to stop it?23:23
ochosistiv2k_: "xset -q | grep timeout" will tell you whether there's a screensaver timeout23:27
stiv2k_ochosi: ok, one sec23:35
ochosistiv2k_: you can then set the new timeout (for the running session only) with e.g. "xset s 600" (600 being seconds, so 10mins)23:39
ochosiif you want that to persist, you have to add that command to autostart23:39
stiv2k_ochosi: i want there to be unlimited timeout23:40
stiv2k_its for a home theater PC, and while watching a movie, the screen goes blank after 5-10 minutes23:41
stiv2k_very inconvenient23:41
ochosistiv2k_: then you want "xset s 0"23:45
stiv2k_ochosi: timeout is set to 60023:51
stiv2k_ochosi: where is the GUI option for that? i thought i disabled it in the GUI settings. Is this a bug?23:51
twoofthreewhy is it that I install the same xubuntu but i get different results as far as look and feel?23:54
ochosistiv2k_: unless you're using xscreensaver, there might not be a gui option for this23:54
stiv2k_ochosi: i told xscreensaver to stop loading in my autostart23:55
stiv2k_ochosi: shouldn't there be a gui option? :)23:55
ochosistiv2k_: there is in the latest version of xfce4-power-manager23:55
ochosibut you don't have that yet23:55
ObrienDavetwoofthree, please elaborate23:56
ochosiso anyway, set it as i suggested and be happy ;)23:56
stiv2k_i will.23:56
twoofthreethe apps menu for example. I installed the same OS yesterday and it had the searchable field . Now it simply does not. In fact I cant tell the difference booting from XFCE to Xubuntu23:56
stiv2k_other thing, how do i tell ubuntu to stop leaving me at the GRUB menu when it falsely thinks the computer didnt shut down properly?23:56
twoofthreei boot in Xubuntu it still shows the "About XFCE" icon23:56
stiv2k_its annoying23:56
ObrienDavetwoofthree, Xubuntu also uses the XFCE desktop environment23:57
twoofthreei just dont understand how i can install from the same cd one day, and another day it sinply install differently23:58
twoofthreethings are just not the same at all. Does Xubuntu do this purposefully? You never know exactly what kind of desktop gui you will get?23:58
twoofthreei used to be able to search for apps in the application menu, today i install same cd its gone. I dont understand that23:59

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