| jose | QUESTION: Why am I seeing [Review Queue] emails now? | 02:36 |
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| sarnold | jose: oops, did you do enough good work to earn more work? :) | 02:44 |
| jose | sarnold: hehe nope, they're on the juju mailing list | 02:44 |
| sarnold | oh :) | 02:44 |
| jose | I was just wondering if it had something to do with the new revq that's on the works! | 02:44 |
| tvansteenburgh | jose: no that's just a new thing we're doing. we're taking 2-hr time blocks on the review queue and reporting our progress to the list | 03:03 |
| jose | tvansteenburgh: oh, it's good to know :) | 03:03 |
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| jam | I have a question about the appropriate way to write a charm configuration. | 11:48 |
| jam | I have in mind a very simple charm that I give my account credentials to, and it issues "juju destroy-environment" after a given timeout. | 11:48 |
| jam | So that I can deploy the charm when I have just a testing env, and make sure it dies even if I forget about it. | 11:49 |
| jam | But I'd like to have it allow a syntax like "destroy after 45 minutes" or something along those lines | 11:50 |
| jam | but it seems odd to have a config setting that would "reset" the state every time config-changed runs. | 11:50 |
| marcoceppi | stokachu: what do you mean it breaks it? | 12:32 |
| jam | marcoceppi: there you are. I ran into https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-tools/+bug/1359170 trying to use charm-tools with trunk juju | 12:40 |
| mup | Bug #1359170: juju charm create fails in an unhelpful fashion with juju-1.21 in PATH <Juju Charm Tools:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359170> | 12:40 |
| jam | I'm not sure that you're the maintainer, but I thought I'd start with you | 12:40 |
| marcoceppi | jam: I am one of them, this is concerning, I'm not sure what I can do to fix it | 12:41 |
| marcoceppi | seems like juju-core is not being so nice | 12:41 |
| marcoceppi | ? | 12:41 |
| jam | marcoceppi: so something is failing in the subprocess starting other things, but its unclear what | 12:41 |
| marcoceppi | jam: I'll compile from trunk and punch on it a bit | 12:42 |
| marcoceppi | jam: any idea when 1.21 is expected? | 12:42 |
| jam | marcoceppi: so I think we set "command.Env" | 12:42 |
| jam | and probably juju-create expects PATH to be in there, but we aren't putting it in? | 12:43 |
| jam | no, we are appending to os.Environ() so that should be ok. | 12:43 |
| jam | ... | 12:43 |
| marcoceppi | i mean, we're just using argparse in python | 12:43 |
| jam | though the way we are doing that makes me wonder if we are actually mutating os.Environ() in-procses (not that it really matters) | 12:43 |
| marcoceppi | nothing too crazy | 12:43 |
| jam | marcoceppi: you're looking for /usr/bin/charm-create and invoking that | 12:43 |
| jam | from juju-chram | 12:43 |
| jam | juju-charm | 12:44 |
| jam | which then uses setuptools to again look up where main is, etc. | 12:44 |
| marcoceppi | oh, right, for "plugin mapping" | 12:44 |
| marcoceppi | let me compile, throw in some debug statements, see what I can find | 12:44 |
| jam | marcoceppi: doing "print sys.argv" in juju-charm shows me: | 12:50 |
| jam | $ juju charm create -h | 12:50 |
| jam | args ['/usr/bin/juju-charm'] | 12:50 |
| jam | marcoceppi: vs 1.18 does: | 12:50 |
| jam | $ /usr/bin/juju charm create -h | 12:50 |
| jam | args ['/usr/bin/juju-charm', 'create', '-h'] | 12:50 |
| marcoceppi | ah, so that's what is different | 12:50 |
| marcoceppi | bug in core I guess? | 12:51 |
| jam | marcoceppi: yeah | 12:52 |
| marcoceppi | \o/ less work for me | 12:52 |
| marcoceppi | jam: thanks for catching that though | 12:52 |
| rm4 | could anyone help possibly with charm debug | 12:58 |
| rm4 | juju debug-hooks wordpress/3 loadbalancer-relation-joined | 12:58 |
| rm4 | I was hoping to see a special prompt with % | 12:59 |
| rm4 | but I just get: | 12:59 |
| rm4 | root@vagrant-local-machine-34:~# | 12:59 |
| jrwren_ | rm4: did you resolved --retry yet ? | 12:59 |
| rm4 | don't quite follow sorry | 13:00 |
| jrwren_ | rm4: something needs to trigger the hook executing again, assuming it is in a failed state. juju resolved --retry <unit> will trigger this. | 13:01 |
| jrwren_ | rm4: do that in a different terminal and your debug-hook tmux will open a new tmux window with the special prompt | 13:02 |
| rm4 | vagrant@vagrant-ubuntu-trusty-64:~$ juju resolved --retry wordpress/3 ERROR unit "wordpress/3" is not in an error state | 13:02 |
| rm4 | it all works but I would like to see what is happening | 13:03 |
| rm4 | so I can make a charm | 13:03 |
| jrwren_ | rm4: In that case, you could remove the unit and add it again and immediately after running add run the debug-hook and hope you were fast enough to catch the hooks (you likely will be). | 13:04 |
| jrwren_ | rm4: or if you are only interested in that relation, remove and add that relation | 13:05 |
| aisrael | In cloud-images, what's the functional difference supposed to be between the vagrant boxes in http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/ vs. http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/? | 13:07 |
| rm4 | thanks jrwren | 13:08 |
| rick_h__ | aisrael: might be good to pin utlemming on that. He's in CO so might not be on for a bit. | 13:08 |
| rm4 | I'll try and come back | 13:08 |
| rick_h__ | adeuring: do you know the answer to aisrael's question ^ ? | 13:08 |
| jcastro | aisrael, the first one has all the boxes | 13:09 |
| jcastro | the 2nd one only has the latest builds | 13:09 |
| jcastro | the boxes get published every few weeks, so we keep those around too | 13:09 |
| jcastro | what is in /current will always be the latest one | 13:09 |
| aisrael | The reason I'm asking: the image in current/ only sets up one adapter (nat) and doesn't provision juju. | 13:10 |
| aisrael | The larger image bootstraps, but sets up two adapters (nat and hostonly) | 13:10 |
| jcastro | ok, the ones without juju in the filename | 13:10 |
| jcastro | are just the normal vanilla vagrant boxes | 13:10 |
| jcastro | the ones with juju in them are supposed to bootstrap/gui, etc. with juju | 13:11 |
| adeuring | aisrael: the smaller files are "plain" ubuntu cloud images, while the larger files have juju preinstalled, and the Juju GUI is installed during Vagrant's provisioning | 13:11 |
| aisrael | jcastro: Oh, duh. | 13:11 |
| aisrael | ok, so that's one doc I should look at getting updated | 13:11 |
| jcastro | which one? | 13:11 |
| aisrael | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/howto-vagrant-workflow.html | 13:11 |
| aisrael | points to a non-existent box, in current/ | 13:12 |
| jcastro | ah yes | 13:12 |
| jcastro | damn, I fixed the config-vagrant page | 13:12 |
| jcastro | but totally forgot about this one, yeah, fix it in the docs please. | 13:12 |
| aisrael | and I'm still troubleshooting why the networking problem | 13:12 |
| jcastro | https://github.com/juju/docs has the instructions | 13:13 |
| jcastro | they're in markdown, very easy to fix | 13:13 |
| aisrael | excellent, I'll add to my list today | 13:13 |
| jcastro | mbruzek, coreycb: did you guys not review yesterday? | 13:13 |
| mbruzek | jcastro What makes you say that? | 13:14 |
| coreycb | jcastro, review what? | 13:14 |
| jcastro | the review queue, you guys were on the calendar yesterday | 13:14 |
| coreycb | jcastro, hmm not familiar with the calendar.. sorry. I do need to start doing more reviews though. | 13:15 |
| jcastro | we each were supposed to pick 2 hours a week to review, then send the results to the list. | 13:15 |
| mbruzek | Yes I reviewed the ufw changes for elasticsearch and I DID email the group about it. | 13:15 |
| mbruzek | jcastro, I think you have coreycb mixed up with cory_fu | 13:16 |
| jcastro | hah yes I do! sorry about that coreycb | 13:17 |
| jcastro | I meant cory_fu | 13:17 |
| coreycb | jcastro, ahh, np | 13:17 |
| jcastro | oh excellent! | 13:18 |
| jcastro | mbruzek, I now see both of your [Review Queue] posts, that is quite excellent! | 13:18 |
| mbruzek | thanks for the positive reinforcement jcastro | 13:19 |
| mbruzek | and for checking up on me | 13:19 |
| jcastro | hah | 13:19 |
| jcastro | it is unclear to me if you merged his changes though | 13:19 |
| jam | marcoceppi: turns out it only happens if you don't have an environment set | 13:29 |
| jam | I *might* be rare in not having a default env | 13:29 |
| marcoceppi | jam: that's fun! | 13:29 |
| jam | or using juju switch | 13:29 |
| jam | marcoceppi: I always run "juju command -e env" | 13:29 |
| jam | so that I know what environment it is running in | 13:29 |
| ctlaugh | jamespag`: Hi, mwhudson sent me... I'm having a problem with the cinder charm on a system with only 1 drive. I am trying to have it use a loopback file for storage. The file is created, the loop device (/dev/loop0) is created, but the volume group is never created. | 13:32 |
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| rm4 | I managed to get charm debug working | 14:03 |
| rm4 | thanks for that | 14:03 |
| rm4 | bit of a different prompt to documentation though | 14:04 |
| rm4 | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-hook-debug.html shows ~ | 14:04 |
| marcoceppi | rm4: ah, yes, debug-hooks shows unit/hook-context now | 14:05 |
| rm4 | root@vagrant-local-machine-34:/var/lib/juju/agents/unit-wordpress-3/charm/hooks# relation-get | 14:06 |
| rm4 | private-address: 10.0.3.181 | 14:06 |
| rm4 | yes I think so | 14:06 |
| marcoceppi | rm4: that's the prompt you get for debug-hooks? | 14:07 |
| marcoceppi | it should look like wordpress/3@<hook-name> | 14:07 |
| rm4 | that was the prompt for debug-hooks yes | 14:35 |
| jrwren_ | rm4: is that window 0 of tmux or window 1 ? | 14:38 |
| rm4 | 12.04.5 0:- 1:website-relation-departed* | 14:39 |
| rm4 | I think that is 1 | 14:39 |
| rm4 | I was in /home/ubuntu | 14:49 |
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| natefinch | marcoceppi: are you and the other charmers on the juju-dev mailing list? | 19:01 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: I am | 19:02 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: ahh, right, I remember you responding to the default-hook thread. | 19:02 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: you offered to survey the current charms and see which ones used the all-symlink model... do you know when you might get that done? I know it's a big job. | 19:03 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: I can do that now, should take about 15 mins | 19:16 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: that would be fantastic, thank you | 19:18 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: here are precise charms in the store, slightly curated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8100495/ | 19:32 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: and the command used to get that, by running it in a directory which `charm getall` was fetched | 19:32 |
| marcoceppi | for f in `find */hooks/ -maxdepth 1`; do if [ -L $f ]; then echo "$(echo $f | awk -F/ '{print $1}') `readlink $f`"; fi; done | sort | uniq | 19:32 |
| marcoceppi | charm common file | 19:33 |
| marcoceppi | well, "charm" "common file" is the output | 19:34 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: nice | 19:41 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: so, are there any that symlink only some of the hooks? | 19:44 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: yes | 19:44 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: most all hooks that say relation_common | 19:44 |
| marcoceppi | indicates that only some of the hooks of that are symlinked | 19:44 |
| marcoceppi | I also removed entries that were just sylinks between relation-joined and relation-changed | 19:45 |
| marcoceppi | since that's a stupid pattern and easy enough to clean up | 19:45 |
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| natefinch | marcoceppi: heh | 19:45 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: so how many charms are there total? I'd like to know what this is 62 out of :) | 19:46 |
| marcoceppi | 162 | 19:47 |
| marcoceppi | also, there are some dupliates in there | 19:47 |
| marcoceppi | as some are inconsistently symlinked (./hooks.py vs hooks.py) | 19:47 |
| marcoceppi | that list needs to be curated a bit more | 19:47 |
| marcoceppi | also does not include trusty charms | 19:48 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: thanks, I got rid of dupes, easy enough | 19:59 |
| mwhudson | ctlaugh: :( | 20:54 |
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