| anarkhos | i tried disconnecting the wifi and unloading the wifi modules, because that could make suspend-resume work, but it did not help in this case | 01:16 |
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| holstein | anarkhos: it wont | 01:25 |
| holstein | anarkhos: its not being triggered to wake up | 01:25 |
| anarkhos | right | 01:25 |
| anarkhos | hmm | 01:25 |
| holstein | its not getting that command | 01:25 |
| anarkhos | yeah | 01:25 |
| anarkhos | ill look at the error report again. i get one upon reboot | 01:27 |
| holstein | you likely get a "dont shut the computer down like that forcefully while its suspended" message | 01:27 |
| anarkhos | "This occured during a previous suspend and prevented it from resuming properly" | 01:29 |
| holstein | if its literally not getting the message, and not doing *anything*, its a sleep.. its not going to log anything | 01:29 |
| holstein | sure.. but, if you are postulating that "this" has occured, thus, breaking suspend, then, suspend should work in the live environment where "this" hasnt happened | 01:30 |
| anarkhos | "CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'iw' | 01:30 |
| holstein | i know what i would do | 01:31 |
| holstein | disable suspend, and enjoy whats left of the hardware | 01:31 |
| anarkhos | well | 01:32 |
| anarkhos | ive actually refreshed my linux-mind quite a bit during these attempts at solving the problem | 01:32 |
| holstein | i actually think its kind of odd that any of it works.. when you think about the process | 01:33 |
| holstein | i mean, a company makes hardware, states windows support.. and pays professionals to support it.. then, we go and download some software that works on the hardware somehow? thats amazing | 01:34 |
| anarkhos | yes | 01:38 |
| anarkhos | well | 01:38 |
| anarkhos | acer aspire one obviously works well with windows. however, does that necessarily mean that it will not work with linux? | 01:39 |
| anarkhos | because it sounded like that's what you're implying | 01:39 |
| holstein | anarkhos: the question is, does acer work with linux? and if they did, it would | 01:39 |
| anarkhos | in general it works very well with linux too | 01:40 |
| holstein | anarkhos: all of linux is open. for *anyone* to have, and see.. its open from top to bottom.. all of linux/ubuntu/xubuntu.. | 01:40 |
| anarkhos | even windows has problems sometimes | 01:40 |
| holstein | so, if anyone, like acer, wants to support it, they can | 01:40 |
| anarkhos | yeah | 01:40 |
| holstein | anarkhos: we are not talking about "casual problems".. we are talking about hardware support | 01:40 |
| anarkhos | right | 01:40 |
| holstein | anyone can break any operating system. but, what are you dealing with is either broken hardware, or soemthing that acer could address easily | 01:41 |
| anarkhos | i suppose this is irrelevant: | 01:57 |
| anarkhos | "This script should work or your money back guaranteed (Joking this is open source project so use at own risk :P ), as it forces the graphic card to reboot itself using a good old kick from chvt1 and chvt7 commands which simulate what I used to do manually using Ctrl + Alt + F1 and Ctrl + Alt + F7 to refresh the GUI. " | 01:57 |
| anarkhos | by the way, there are 200+mb of updates available for lubuntu now | 01:59 |
| holstein | i would just try it | 02:02 |
| holstein | i would have already updated | 02:02 |
| holstein | i suggested that early on | 02:02 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:02 |
| holstein | updating is the easiest way to get "Fixes" if there are any | 02:02 |
| holstein | i assumed, you had done that already | 02:03 |
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| onla_ | a linux question | 15:59 |
| holstein | onla_: you mean, you would like to ask a linux question? | 15:59 |
| onla_ | :) | 15:59 |
| onla_ | anyone know, if I can somehow echo or print or such to a cli the result of a query from glosbe api. It uses web interface, for example http://glosbe.com/gapi/translate?from=pol&dest=eng&format=json&phrase=witaj&pretty=true | 16:00 |
| onla_ | I only know that there are links, lynx and w3m or such cli web browsers, but | 16:01 |
| onla_ | if I do cat url .. It posts something but not the ingredients of that url | 16:02 |
| holstein | onla_: i would find other code that is alread doing that at another site.. something for query-ing the weather or time or whatever | 16:03 |
| onla_ | I need a command-line english-tajik-english dictionary, and there are not many options | 16:04 |
| holstein | onla_: i would try going upstream to a coding, or general linux, or #ubuntu channel or mailing list.. i would ask in the community at the site (if there is one) and see if anyone already has something | 16:04 |
| holstein | onla_: im not talking about what you need right now, functionally.. im talking about looking at an already existing application that is doing something similar, and seeing how they do it | 16:04 |
| onla_ | ah | 16:05 |
| onla_ | so there is no innate linux commands | 16:05 |
| holstein | onla_: i have seen scriprs for conky for example that get the weather, or other things... and dont use a web browser, per se, like that | 16:05 |
| holstein | onla_: yes | 16:05 |
| holstein | onla_: ther are *many* commands for doing what you want, and that site is welcome to comply with them | 16:05 |
| holstein | onla_: are they? i dont know.. but, if i wanted to learn to "scrape" the site for data, i would look at another piece of code.. i would ask in a general linux channel, and a programming community as well | 16:06 |
| holstein | this is the #lubuntu channel, which is not a bad place to start, but, its specificially for the lubuntu operating system.. you will likely find folks doing what yo uare doing upstream, in a general linux channel | 16:07 |
| onla_ | ok thanks | 16:09 |
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| Gatis | Hi! Tell me, please, shortcut key to switch desktops? | 16:12 |
| holstein | Gatis: i hold "control" and "alt" at the same time, then use the arrow keys | 16:13 |
| Gatis | hmm doesn't work | 16:13 |
| holstein | Gatis: ok.. are you sure you have desktops available? are you sure the keyboard is working? | 16:14 |
| Gatis | yeah | 16:15 |
| holstein | Gatis: yeah, what? | 16:15 |
| Gatis | Yes, sir | 16:15 |
| holstein | Gatis: you have other desktops? how are you certain? can you switch to them some other way? | 16:16 |
| Gatis | Yes i have. I see them on Panel GUI :) | 16:16 |
| holstein | Gatis: sure.. you "see" them.. so, can you actually swtich to them by clicking on them? or mouse wheel? or *any* other way? | 16:17 |
| Gatis | Yes i can switch them with mouse click and mouse wheel :) | 16:18 |
| Gatis | I didn't know i can switch using mouse wheel | 16:18 |
| laki-laki | hellooo | 18:07 |
| laki-laki | apakah disini ada orang indonesia ???? | 18:07 |
| wxl | !id | laki-laki | 18:07 |
| ubottu | laki-laki: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia | 18:07 |
| laki-laki | nggak ada pengguna lubuntu disana | 18:08 |
| wxl | laki-laki: i don't speak the language, but they do at #ubuntu-id | 18:08 |
| laki-laki | oke thanks!! | 18:09 |
| anex | is anyone else on lxqt? | 18:32 |
| wxl | anex: might want to move over to #lubuntu-offtopic given it's not officially supported yet. :) | 18:32 |
| anex | ok thx | 18:33 |
| anex | i was just wondering who to report broken meta packages too and how i can get involved in testing related things as i have made my own installation iso on arch with lxqt and know it real well https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=14880.0 | 18:36 |
| koell | happy birthday phillw | 19:08 |
| phillw | koell: thanks :) | 19:08 |
| koell | xD | 19:09 |
| wxl | don't make me kick you guys to #lubuntu-offtopic | 19:09 |
| wxl | although phillw may require support in his advanced agent | 19:09 |
| wxl | age | 19:09 |
| wxl | j/k ;) | 19:09 |
| koell | the next lubuntu release need to have phillw 's house as wallpaper included :D | 19:10 |
| mhlds | having trouble getting audio out from hdmi in lubuntu | 19:35 |
| mhlds | pulseaudio volume control does not detect the hdmi | 19:36 |
| mhlds | but no problem detecting the hdmi in monitor settings | 19:37 |
| phillw | mhlds: have a read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147651 | 19:38 |
| koell | what happened to my lubuntu machine? i cant paste into my terminal anymore =( | 20:32 |
| koell | i use ctrl+shift+v as always but nothing happens | 20:32 |
| ianorlin | what terminal? | 20:32 |
| koell | lubuntu default terminal: xterm with zsh | 20:33 |
| koell | bash dont work too :/ | 20:33 |
| wxl | afaik lubuntu default is lxterminal w/ bash ;) | 20:37 |
| * genii sips and ponders shift+insert | 20:38 | |
| * wxl agrees | 20:40 | |
| ianorlin | koell if you use a usb mouse you can middle click to paste the selection buffer also xclip is useful for this | 20:41 |
| koell | i dont like to use the mouse, i just wonder why it worked all the time | 20:43 |
| wxl | i don't either, thus shift+insert | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | That's the secondary clipboard, what if he wants primary? | 20:45 |
| koell | ugly keyboard shortcut, shift+ctrl+v is lot of faster as i dont need to leave the home row | 20:45 |
| koell | oh, it was just me wrong. hit fn+shift+v :D | 20:48 |
| koell | weird keyboard at work :/ | 20:48 |
| koell | i need to sleepeating.. | 20:49 |
| melodie | hello! | 21:02 |
| melodie | who can tell me about consolekit in Trusty: not used anymore I would imagine? | 21:02 |
| holstein | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMyMDE , though, you can look and wee more what happened rather than whats coming up, since this is a bit dated | 21:04 |
| Unit193 | lxsession "depends" on it, but logind should be what's used. | 21:05 |
| melodie | Unit193 can you remind be briefly what are ConsoleKit and Logind roles? | 21:06 |
| melodie | I used to think there needed to be some "seats" in a user session and not seeing one active makes me feel I am missing something in the picture | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | Well basically, consolekit is deprecated in Ubuntu, so logind stuff is used. | 21:14 |
| melodie | Unit193 I'll rtfm | 21:14 |
| melodie | thanks | 21:14 |
| melodie | but, no man? | 21:15 |
| melodie | I'll stfw then :D | 21:15 |
| melodie | logind is what? a package? a process? something else? | 21:16 |
| melodie | I'll have a look at packages.ubuntu to see what I can find about it | 21:17 |
| Unit193 | Part of systemd. | 21:20 |
| melodie | Unit193 would that be the package "systemd-services", or the package "libsystemd-login0" then? | 21:21 |
| melodie | I haven't hit packages.ubuntu.com yet :) | 21:22 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -L systemd-services -> /lib/systemd/systemd-logind, /etc/systemd/logind.conf | 21:22 |
| melodie | Unit193 thank you! | 21:48 |
| melodie | Unit193 it appears systemd-services is installed in my Bento Trusty, but if I try to remove ConsoleKit it triggers the removal of a large bunch of packages which are needed for my apps to be there | 21:51 |
| melodie | and I don't even talk about lxsession which I don't use here | 21:51 |
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