| rick_h__ | evening | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| cmaloney | howdy | 00:36 |
| rick_h__ | having fun yet? | 00:40 |
| cmaloney | Putting together an already late episode of OMC | 00:56 |
| cmaloney | So in a way, yeah. | 00:56 |
| rick_h__ | wheee | 00:57 |
| rick_h__ | did the student evals | 00:57 |
| cmaloney | Ah, cool. | 00:58 |
| rick_h__ | not much to it in this one | 00:58 |
| cmaloney | Rawk! \m/ | 01:11 |
| cmaloney | https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/UbuntuConvergenceFeedback | 01:25 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/H1gHhA - Desktop Convergence Plans Survey | 01:25 |
| rick_h__ | intersting | 01:35 |
| rick_h__ | interesting | 01:35 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, | 01:37 |
| cmaloney | Not sure I like the direction | 01:37 |
| rick_h__ | holy crap, for your "it's a small world" moment of the day https://twitter.com/chcholman/status/501906093136969729 | 01:46 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/eXRDhM - Twitter / chcholman: Woah, used to live on the street ... | 01:46 |
| cmaloney | wow | 02:12 |
| cmaloney | rick_h__: You should check out Imagekind | 02:20 |
| cmaloney | They do good work | 02:20 |
| * brousch cries http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25394139/saving-files-in-the-same-directory | 12:09 | |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/bbxOT9 - python - Saving Files in the Same Directory - Stack Overflow | 12:09 |
| rick_h__ | morning and yay I get to go to CHC tonight! | 12:33 |
| wollfger | morning | 12:34 |
| jrwren_ | cmaloney: which direction do you dislike? | 12:51 |
| jrwren_ | cmaloney: click packages? | 12:52 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: thanks goodness you obeyed the signs and didn't jump in | 13:02 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | party | 13:16 |
| cmaloney | jrwren_: I fear Mir will mess up games and the clipboard for X-based applications | 13:16 |
| cmaloney | Stuff like SDL need to run flawlessly. | 13:16 |
| jrwren_ | cmaloney: oh, is THAT all? ;p | 13:16 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 13:17 |
| cmaloney | I also fear having two separate package installs | 13:17 |
| cmaloney | much like the mess of Tablet vs Desktop under Windows. | 13:17 |
| cmaloney | and the sandboxing causing similar issues that we ran into under SELinux where shit breaks because someone didn't flip a bit | 13:18 |
| cmaloney | That's three architectural changes that as a desktop user will "change how I use Ubuntu". ;) | 13:18 |
| cmaloney | Note: they're not bad changes overall, but I can see the desktop side of Ubuntu getting hosed. | 13:19 |
| jrwren_ | cmaloney: hosed more than it already is? ;] | 13:20 |
| cmaloney | About the only thing that I didn't care for under 14.04 was the online suggestions | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | and that can be easily turned off | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | And yes, I agree that X is a dog's breakfast and needs changing | 13:21 |
| jrwren_ | I wonder if kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu will not use Xorg. | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | but Mir needs stringent backward compatability. | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | and not just "well, Qt and GTK work, so we're good" | 13:22 |
| jrwren_ | I actually don't agree. IMO all the X extensions ruined X. I want my network transparency back! | 13:22 |
| jrwren_ | cmaloney: port XLib to Mir ? | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | jrwren_: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of X network transparancy but I like my extensions. :) | 13:22 |
| jrwren_ | I'd rather an xlib layer be a last resort. Native to whatever display is the best. | 13:23 |
| guy__ | Greetings from exotic Lapeer, Michigan. I've never used IRC before. Excuse any breaches of etiquette. | 13:30 |
| jrwren_ | guy__: greetings! | 13:30 |
| jrwren_ | guy__: welcome from Ann Arbor. | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | guy__: heh, lived in lapeer for many years back in the day | 13:31 |
| jrwren_ | guy__: My first use of IRC was 19 years ago, so no worries. :) | 13:31 |
| guy__ | Ann Arbor - ahh....the cradle of civilization. | 13:31 |
| guy__ | I think pot was legal there in 1943. | 13:32 |
| cmaloney | guy__: Hello from ~Royal Oak | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | graduated from east, and now I feel old realizing how long ago that was | 13:32 |
| guy__ | Wow, Rick........we're old neighbors... | 13:32 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h__: 20 year reunion coming up. | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren_: hah, I couldn't remember the names of 3 people I graduated with | 13:33 |
| guy__ | Cool..... I'm so old we hold our reunions at Sunset Hills Cemetary | 13:33 |
| cmaloney | 20 year reuinion, How quaint. :) | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | :P | 13:33 |
| guy__ | Hello Royal Oak..... | 13:34 |
| guy__ | Dead serious - I think I installed IRC on Windows about 15 years ago....used it once or something. | 13:34 |
| guy__ | I'm 62 going on 12........STILL tinkering. | 13:35 |
| jrwren_ | I shall now address you as pops. | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 13:35 |
| jrwren_ | :) j/k | 13:35 |
| guy__ | Thta's fine - I keep telling my wife it "smells like old people in here..." - then I realize it's US. | 13:35 |
| guy__ | I refuse to grow up. | 13:36 |
| cmaloney | Heh | 13:36 |
| guy__ | I'm dry walling our house, and playing with all sorts of Linux distros - doin' okay for 62. | 13:37 |
| guy__ | And I'm cheating - I threw a spare hard drive in the PC and installed something called PinguyOS - the launch thing for this was on the desktop, so, here I am.... | 13:38 |
| jrwren_ | PinguyOS eh? | 13:39 |
| guy__ | Yeah - it's got a beautiful desktop but it's kinda sluggish.... | 13:39 |
| guy__ | Comes with a mountain of software out of the box...... | 13:39 |
| guy__ | debian based. | 13:40 |
| jrwren_ | That was is new to me. Its interesting. | 13:40 |
| guy__ | I had never heard of the thing - watched a YouTube video and a guy was talking about it.... | 13:40 |
| guy__ | I compiled web and mail servers on the thing...most of the packages from scratch. I got it all working.... just a hobby. | 13:41 |
| guy__ | Running from PingOS (well, temporarily probably): http://www.guysjoint.com | 13:42 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/mM8UgT - Guysjoint.com | Just one more idiot with a web site…..running from Ubuntu 12.04 | 13:42 |
| guy__ | Gotta sand drywall - you guys solve the world's problems...... | 13:43 |
| guy__ | and hurry up. | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 14:35 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - Run Straight Down by Warren Zevon on The Electric Werewolf Strikes Again | 14:35 |
| wollfger | Is that a real album? | 14:47 |
| === wollfger is now known as wolfger | ||
| cmaloney | Not sure. I have the single that I got from the radio station in college. | 15:25 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 15:43 |
| mrgoodcat | warren zevon ftw | 15:43 |
| mrgoodcat | should make a remix of sweet home alabama called sweet home illinois and use the werewolves of london original recording for the backround music | 15:49 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: dude that video thing is great | 18:19 |
| rick_h__ | that's so cool how that whip that up | 18:19 |
| brousch | quick sqlalchemy question. I want to access the object this foreign key is linked to https://github.com/brousch/WaznexServer/blob/master/waznexserver/models.py#L97 | 18:21 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/rZli9o - WaznexServer/models.py at master · brousch/WaznexServer · GitHub | 18:21 |
| brousch | I get the id, but can't figure out how to get the object | 18:22 |
| rick_h__ | ugh, who named the column fk_grid_item? | 18:23 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: you need to build a relation to it | 18:23 |
| brousch | I named it that probably 4 years ago | 18:23 |
| brousch | yeah, it sucks | 18:23 |
| rick_h__ | https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/auth.py#L275 | 18:23 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/At7ajw - Bookie/auth.py at develop · bookieio/Bookie · GitHub | 18:23 |
| brousch | saying it's a foreignkey does not establish a relationship? | 18:24 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: no, it's the background data needed to create a relationship | 18:24 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: but you need more data to build/define it | 18:24 |
| rick_h__ | http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_9/orm/relationships.html | 18:24 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/OQX5GY - Relationship Configuration — SQLAlchemy 0.9 Documentation | 18:24 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: ^ | 18:24 |
| brousch | I was just looking there | 18:25 |
| rick_h__ | notice the child = relationship("Child") | 18:25 |
| rick_h__ | that line is how you access the child through the Parent | 18:25 |
| rick_h__ | and that uses the fact that the FK is defined to help build that | 18:25 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: so you just need to add a line | 18:25 |
| rick_h__ | grid_item = Relation(GridItem) | 18:26 |
| rick_h__ | then you can GridCell.grid_item.filename | 18:26 |
| rick_h__ | ish | 18:26 |
| jcastro | rick_h__, what video thing? | 18:33 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: on G+ the boat | 18:33 |
| jcastro | oh yeah, heh | 18:33 |
| brousch | rick_h__: u da man | 18:35 |
| brousch | I'm working on http://talks.barcampgr.org/ | 18:36 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/SI0WE2 - BarCampGR Session Grid | 18:36 |
| brousch | I use it once a year, so there's always some tweaking to get it up to date and running | 18:36 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: gotcha, glad to be of help | 18:37 |
| rick_h__ | glad I still remember any python :P | 18:37 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: yea, love you and Jill front row. You guys are front row folks | 18:38 |
| brousch | rick_h__: :( | 18:40 |
| jcastro | heh yeah, I mean, why go if you can't get in the front row? | 18:41 |
| jrwren_ | pywhat? ;] | 18:42 |
| cmaloney | pythong. | 18:52 |
| cmaloney | (no, I'mn not googling that.) | 18:52 |
| jrwren_ | its not the gtk or gl lib? | 18:54 |
| wolfger | cmaloney: chicken | 18:58 |
| cmaloney | Sorry, couldn't hear you over the sound of me pecking in the yard. | 19:32 |
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