=== Ubik|AWAY is now known as Ubik [14:27] good morning [14:27] morning netritious [14:27] how's it going wrst [14:29] more like a monday but not terrible yet, how about you netritious? [14:31] not to bad wrst...a little disappointed that I couldn't get debian chroot'ed on my captivate glide :/ [14:32] ha ha well if that's the worsre thing of the day... ;) [14:32] but there is still hope...haven't tried the SGS4 yet :) [14:32] netritious: have you ever had a nexus devices? [14:32] *device [14:33] no wrst I haven't. heard they're great though [14:33] so easy to tinker, but the lake of a SD card is a bummer [14:33] no SD card? how limiting [14:33] what about external USB? [14:34] it can be but a simple: 'fastboot oem unlock' to unlock the bootloader makes up for it :) [14:34] yes you can do external usb [14:34] the 32GB version doesn't limit me really so it works but still expandable storage just for media I would like [14:35] I keep reading things about KK disabling r/w for the user on sd, but i've had no problems with it. know anything about this wrst? [14:36] *external sd [14:36] it disables apps runnign from external sd, however samsung hacks it right back in [14:36] on my galaxy tab pro 8.4 I run most of the apps from the SD card without issue [14:37] actually samsung did a nice job on the last tablets they have put out or I think [14:37] touchwiz is much less a pig, its still a pig but I haven't rooted and installed a rom yet mainly because of apps on sd and the multitasking they do is really nice [14:38] everyone in my fam that has android uses samsung...not sure why. Probably what they push at the store. [14:38] it is and the hardware especially on the flagship models is good, I hear gripes about the plastic but I have always found them to be durable [14:38] more durable than the aluminum used on the fruit phones [14:38] their software I have had issues with [14:39] but its getting better [14:39] but stock andorid with apps on SD card and multiwindow mode would be my perfect setup but I can achieve most of it with touchwiz and some tweaking [14:39] haven't even rooted yet [14:41] only my phone and daughter's is rooted atm. [14:41] was to easy compared to rooting captivate glide [14:42] I haven't dealt witha Knox device yet that's one reason i haven't messed with my tablet [14:42] stupid easy compared to moto backflip [14:42] ha ha :) [14:42] the tools to root have become much more user friendly [14:42] on the nexus stuff I don't use a tool I just do it all with adb [14:42] its actually [14:42] but of course that is more or less by design [14:45] I ues odin in a pinch. haven't used adb since updating a recovery image on the glide cwmr [14:46] *to cwmr...that was a couple of years ago [14:46] runs twrp now [14:48] yeah I'm out of practice on odin anything [14:49] last time I used odin was to return my SIII back to stock before I sold it [14:49] have you ever checked out samsung kies wrst? [14:49] I have used that for something but can't remember what :) [14:49] I'm out of the loop on all things samsung [14:49] but will have to get back there I'm sure :) [14:50] it's just another PC-to-android interface from Samsung. [14:51] there is an open source odin I think I have used too [14:51] had to use it last year to recover the glide. accidentally looped it trying to install a ROM intended for /samsung captivate/ not /samsung captivate GLIDE/ [14:52] yes I have done that a time or two but luckily on a nexus device [14:54] how's that handled with the nexus wrst? [14:55] all through cwm or twrp [14:56] if you want to go back to stock you just download the factory image, and run a script that comes in the tar.gz [14:56] very cool [14:56] that flashes bootloader and everything back to stock [14:56] you can flash roms with stock recovery also but its just easier with a custom recovery [14:57] but all of that is with adb, or fastboot actually [14:57] I guess fastboot is part of adb? [14:57] its a different command [14:57] I don't know as much as I should to tinker as much as I do :) [14:57] * netritious should probably know but doesn't [14:57] I tried out android L a month or so ago too [14:57] I try not to dig to deep into gnualikes [14:58] ^^just made that word up heh [14:58] ha ha :) [14:59] nothing wrong with "creative grammar" [14:59] we are in the south [14:59] gnualikes=OS that uses the Linux kernel, but not considered "Linux" in any traditional sense of the word [15:00] good term you shoudl copy right that [15:00] *2) uses Linux strictly for profit, usually in a very invasive way. See Google Android. [15:01] but you know, Linus Torvalds is perfectly ok with linux being used that way [15:01] he said that in a perfect situation people don't know what linux is in a system or something to that effect in reference to the success of android and the kernel [15:01] and I am too, but it's not meant to last [15:01] is anything meant to last? :) [15:03] nope. [15:03] oh have you tried ubuntu out on any of your phones? [15:03] the phone os not the desktop [15:04] last time I tried it I totally messed up the radio [15:04] not ubuntu's fault but trying to get it to work for data [15:04] you know, I haven't wrst. I would really like to turn one of my phones into an ubuntu console only phone heh...a PC, not a phone. [15:05] changed some apns, and well you have to dig deep and evidently to the level it interacts with the radio :) [15:05] I know :) [15:05] in theory its one in the same, but it isn't === Ubik is now known as Ubik|AWAY