[14:27] <netritious> good morning
[14:27] <wrst> morning netritious
[14:27] <netritious> how's it going wrst
[14:29] <wrst> more like a monday but not terrible yet, how about you netritious?
[14:31] <netritious> not to bad wrst...a little disappointed that I couldn't get debian chroot'ed on my captivate glide :/
[14:32] <wrst> ha ha well if that's the worsre thing of the day... ;)
[14:32] <netritious> but there is still hope...haven't tried the SGS4 yet :)
[14:32] <wrst> netritious: have you ever had a nexus devices?
[14:32] <wrst> *device
[14:33] <netritious> no wrst I haven't. heard they're great though
[14:33] <wrst> so easy to tinker, but the lake of a SD card is a bummer
[14:33] <netritious> no SD card? how limiting
[14:33] <netritious> what about external USB?
[14:34] <wrst> it can be but a simple: 'fastboot oem unlock' to unlock the bootloader makes up for it :)
[14:34] <wrst> yes you can do external usb
[14:34] <wrst> the 32GB version doesn't limit me really so it works but still expandable storage just for media I would like
[14:35] <netritious> I keep reading things about KK disabling r/w for the user on sd, but i've had no problems with it. know anything about this wrst?
[14:36] <netritious> *external sd
[14:36] <wrst> it disables apps runnign from external sd, however samsung hacks it right back in
[14:36] <wrst> on my galaxy tab pro 8.4 I run most of the apps from the SD card without issue
[14:37] <wrst> actually samsung did a nice job on the last tablets they have put out or I think
[14:37] <wrst> touchwiz is much less a pig, its still a pig but I haven't rooted and installed a rom yet mainly because of apps on sd and the multitasking they do is really nice
[14:38] <netritious> everyone in my fam that has android uses samsung...not sure why. Probably what they push at the store.
[14:38] <wrst> it is and the hardware especially on the flagship models is good, I hear gripes about the plastic but I have always found them to be durable
[14:38] <wrst> more durable than the aluminum used on the fruit phones
[14:38] <wrst> their software I have had issues with
[14:39] <wrst> but its getting better
[14:39] <wrst> but stock andorid with apps on SD card and multiwindow mode would be my perfect setup but I can achieve most of it with touchwiz and some tweaking
[14:39] <wrst> haven't even rooted yet
[14:41] <netritious> only my phone and daughter's is rooted atm.
[14:41] <netritious> was to easy compared to rooting captivate glide
[14:42] <wrst> I haven't dealt witha Knox device yet that's one reason i haven't messed with my tablet
[14:42] <netritious> stupid easy compared to moto backflip
[14:42] <wrst> ha ha :)
[14:42] <wrst> the tools to root have become much more user friendly
[14:42] <wrst> on the nexus stuff I don't use a tool I just do it all with adb
[14:42] <wrst> its actually
[14:42] <wrst> but of course that is more or less by design
[14:45] <netritious> I ues odin in a pinch. haven't used adb since updating a recovery image on the glide cwmr
[14:46] <netritious> *to cwmr...that was a couple of years ago
[14:46] <netritious> runs twrp now
[14:48] <wrst> yeah I'm out of practice on odin anything
[14:49] <wrst> last time I used odin was to return my SIII back to stock before I sold it
[14:49] <netritious> have you ever checked out samsung kies wrst?
[14:49] <wrst> I have used that for something but can't remember what :)
[14:49] <wrst> I'm out of the loop on all things samsung
[14:49] <wrst> but will have to get back there I'm sure :)
[14:50] <netritious> it's just another PC-to-android interface from Samsung.
[14:51] <wrst> there is an open source odin I think I have used too
[14:51] <netritious> had to use it last year to recover the glide. accidentally looped it trying to install a ROM intended for /samsung captivate/ not /samsung captivate GLIDE/
[14:52] <wrst> yes I have done that a time or two but luckily on a nexus device
[14:54] <netritious> how's that handled with the nexus wrst?
[14:55] <wrst> all through cwm or twrp
[14:56] <wrst> if you want to go back to stock you just download the factory image, and run a script that comes in the tar.gz
[14:56] <netritious> very cool
[14:56] <wrst> that flashes bootloader and everything back to stock
[14:56] <wrst> you can flash roms with stock recovery also but its just easier with a custom recovery
[14:57] <wrst> but all of that is with adb, or fastboot actually
[14:57] <wrst> I guess fastboot is part of adb?
[14:57] <wrst> its a different command
[14:57] <wrst> I don't know as much as I should to tinker as much as I do :)
[14:57]  * netritious should probably know but doesn't
[14:57] <wrst> I tried out android L a month or so ago too
[14:57] <netritious> I try not to dig to deep into gnualikes
[14:58] <netritious> ^^just made that word up heh
[14:58] <wrst> ha ha :)
[14:59] <wrst> nothing wrong with "creative grammar"
[14:59] <wrst> we are in the south
[14:59] <netritious> gnualikes=OS that uses the Linux kernel, but not considered "Linux" in any traditional sense of the word
[15:00] <wrst> good term you shoudl copy right that
[15:00] <netritious> *2) uses Linux strictly for profit, usually in a very invasive way. See Google Android.
[15:01] <wrst> but you know, Linus Torvalds is perfectly ok with linux being used that way
[15:01] <wrst> he said that in a perfect situation people don't know what linux is in a system or something to that effect in reference to the success of android and the kernel
[15:01] <netritious> and I am too, but it's not meant to last
[15:01] <wrst> is anything meant to last? :)
[15:03] <netritious> nope.
[15:03] <wrst> oh have you tried ubuntu out on any of your phones?
[15:03] <wrst> the phone os not the desktop
[15:04] <wrst> last time I tried it I totally messed up the radio
[15:04] <wrst> not ubuntu's fault but trying to get it to work for data
[15:04] <netritious> you know, I haven't wrst. I would really like to turn one of my phones into an ubuntu console only phone heh...a PC, not a phone.
[15:05] <wrst> changed some apns, and well you have to dig deep and evidently to the level it interacts with the radio :)
[15:05] <wrst> I know :)
[15:05] <wrst> in theory its one in the same, but it isn't