ObrienDavedid you re-download the live ISO?00:00
twoofthreedid they remove that feature like a day ago?00:00
ObrienDavei have noticed a different menu system also. not sure what the last one was called00:01
twoofthreei simply cant tell the difference between XFCE and XUbuntu and this bothers me. is it a glitch is it right lol00:02
ObrienDaverun "run a program" that has a search type function00:02
ObrienDaveafaik, XFCE and Xubuntu logons are the same00:02
twoofthreeif they are the same then why offer two?00:02
twoofthreeall im saying is, i cant tell the difference with my eyes00:03
ObrienDavei don't know00:03
twoofthreeand it has me worried00:03
ObrienDavewhy worried? it works, yes?00:03
twoofthreesystem has 2 icons in it using Xubuntu, XFCE is has like ten00:03
twoofthreewhat does that mean lol00:03
twoofthreethis is most confusing experience00:03
brainwashit basically only matters the first time you log into the session00:04
ObrienDavei suppose it's so you can have 2 different desktop layouts. you can have more than one or two DEs available00:06
ObrienDaveoh well ;P00:06
xubuntu512So I am trying to install conky and I got to the end of the set up where I have to create a text document, but I can't create it.  When I do new --> document, it give me the prompt to give the file a name, but after that nothing happens.  However when I tried to create the file again, it said that the file was already there...00:10
Azelphurxubuntu512: press ctrl+h in the file browser, it's hidden.00:14
xubuntu512well that was easy...thanks!00:16
twoofthreehello. does anyone know the command to remove the xfce power manager?00:35
ObrienDaveummm, why do you want to do that? not recommended00:36
twoofthreethis pc is always on ac power00:36
twoofthreeseems useless00:36
ObrienDavearbitrarily removing system packages is not a good idea. it's not hurting anything to be there00:41
seghi -- low volumes over a USB DAC using spdif. Having a hard time finding relevant search results, anyone familiar?01:12
segfixed with hda-analyzer. thanks01:21
xubuntu866Hello, I installed Xubuntu 14.04 64 bit, I saw that 14.04.01 has been released, am I going to get that update too?02:30
holsteinxubuntu866: yes.. you can just update as you please, or open a terminal and use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be updated to the current packages02:30
xubuntu866so I have to run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get the latest version?02:31
xubuntu866Is it a reccomended procedure?02:31
holsteinxubuntu866: no02:31
holsteinxubuntu866: as i said, you can just update as you do.. the update manager, or whatever.. or, you can do that right now and update02:32
xubuntu866Ok, thank you holstein.02:33
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SlitHi! Could some one help me with two issue - with setting the menu items and automatically connecting to wi fi.06:43
knomeSlit, ask your question; if somebody knows the answer, they will most probably reply07:06
SlitOk knome. I can't reorder menu items on my xubuntu 14.04. Can somebody help me with that?07:33
knomeplease try to be more specific with your problem; how can you not, what have you tried to do to reorder them?07:34
SlitI just right click on menu -> Edit applications-> Accessories. Then I move up in that folder About me. Nothing shows in Menu when I do that.07:37
toInfinityandBeyhello friends! anyone here to help me?08:21
toInfinityandBeymy issue is minor. i need help installing directx with playonlinux :D08:21
knometoInfinityandBey, ask your question; if somebody knows the answer, they'll most likely reply08:21
knomei'd ask the playonlinux support for that question08:21
toInfinityandBeythers a playonlinux chan?08:21
knomei don't know, but i bet they have some kind of support method available08:22
toInfinityandBeyah i think its a really easy issue but i am just a newbie and a bit stupid08:22
toInfinityandBeydo you care to look at the issue if i post the line?08:22
toInfinityandBeyI haven't gotten CS:GO working yet (same error that you had), but I did fix the keyboard issue in Ricochet (I was just using this to test since it was only a 250MB download). Make sure to do the following in PlayOnLinux config:08:22
toInfinityandBey- Install dxfullsetup08:22
toInfinityandBey- Install DirectInput08:22
toInfinityandBey- Under Display:08:22
toInfinityandBey-- Set GLSL to "enabled"08:22
toInfinityandBey-- Set Direct Draw Renderer to "opengl"08:22
toInfinityandBey-- Set Strict Draw Ordering to "enabled"08:22
knomei'm not familiar with playonlinux08:22
knome!pastebin | toInfinityandBey08:22
ubottutoInfinityandBey: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:22
toInfinityandBeymy problem is.. .how do i install dxfullsetup and those others lol08:23
toInfinityandBeyoh sorry didnt mean to breakthe rules, my bad08:23
knomei really don't know, but i imagine you need to install them inside playonlinux like any other software08:23
toInfinityandBeyBTW : Thanks to garandil , hes a really good supporter / helper on this channel who saved my linux08:24
knomethis channel really isn't your best bet on getting support with your issue (even if it's ok to ask)08:24
toInfinityandBeyhm yea true il look around ,i  just been trying to get cs go working but08:24
toInfinityandBeyreally i want minecraft working first anyway, just trying to find some good settings for it08:24
toInfinityandBeybecause i just play feed-the-beast mod , but the fps is bad at the moment he  he08:25
toInfinityandBeybut it sucks because my card is r9 280x sapphire vapor, and theres no drivers i can find that will work, it just uses the radeon hd 7970 which is basically the same card but its not -_-08:25
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, shut down all other internet accessing apps (looking at you firefox) to reduce that load.08:26
toInfinityandBeynow i read a lot how ppl say its a lot easier to use nvidea with linux than amd -_-08:26
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, that is true08:26
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:26
toInfinityandBeycant afford it though i just paid like $400 for this card a few months ago and its really good card08:26
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, AMD is not well-supported.  live with it.08:27
toInfinityandBeydo you play any games on linux cfhowlett ?08:27
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, steam games, yes.08:28
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, but my card is intel and the intel driver just came out.  pretty sad before that, but now much better.08:28
toInfinityandBeycool, im hoping , well i read that from gaben himself08:28
knometoInfinityandBey, cfhowlett: general chatter in #xubuntu-offtopic please08:28
toInfinityandBeyhe is planning to make cs go to linux08:28
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, steam is getting better and better about linux game support.  suggest you take a look.08:28
toInfinityandBeyok sorry08:28
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.08:29
toInfinityandBeyawesome! thanks08:29
cfhowlett!wine | toInfinityandBey, wine is also an option08:29
ubottutoInfinityandBey, wine is also an option: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu08:29
toInfinityandBeyi use wine with playonlinux . is there another way to use wine?08:30
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications08:30
toInfinityandBeyffs -_-08:30
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu08:31
cfhowletttoInfinityandBey, same outcome.  playonlinux is just the gui for wine.  might be possible to run some apps in !vbox.  install windows, install game, play08:31
knometoInfinityandBey, please remember that this is a family-friendly channel08:31
ssamotHello - ever since I upgraded to 14.04 lid suspend seems to do something to the screen which kills i3 (the window manager I use). Never had any problems with suspend/resume and the laptop lid in previous versions of xubuntu08:31
twoofthreehello. When i  mouse over the volume icon using XFCE and choose sound settings, nothing opens. What can i do to repair this ?08:50
Uatechi there09:33
slickymasterWork!hi | Uatec09:34
ubottuUatec: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!09:34
Uateci installed xubuntu on my ubuntu server, and installed xrdp to connect to it as a remote desktop...09:34
Uatecbut for some reason they keyboard layout is all messed up, (the symbol keys and the tab key are mapping to random things)09:34
Uatecso i look in Settings>Keyboard to change the layout, but all the drop downs are empty, no options for Model or Layout09:35
Uatechow can i install a new (correct) layout?09:35
twoofthreehello. i seem to have lost the volume icon , can anyone tell me how to get it back please?09:43
ObrienDavelook for "indicator plugin"09:46
twoofthreei have , i cant seem to get it back no matter what i do09:47
Uatecwhat have you done?09:47
twoofthreei removed and reinstalled pulse audio09:47
ObrienDavedo you have a mail or battery icon?09:48
twoofthreei wil settle for resetting the taskbar to default and starting over, if possible09:48
twoofthreei do not, i removed those while ago before this was an issue09:48
ObrienDaveright click on the taskbar, panel, add new items, add indicator plugin09:49
twoofthreedone.i have the envelope and power icon back, no volume09:50
brainwashinstall indicator-sound09:50
ObrienDaveright click mail or power icon, properties. sound menu should be there09:51
twoofthreenot present ObrienDave09:52
twoofthreebrainwash, how please. sudo apt-get install indicator-sound did not work09:52
ObrienDavethen what brainwash said09:52
twoofthreewould logging in and out work or must i restart?09:53
brainwashrelogging is enough09:53
ObrienDavesays something about restarting panel. try a relog09:53
twoofthreeit is not back.09:54
twoofthreecan i just like, start from scratch some how?09:54
brainwashinstalling indicator-sound did not work? any error output?09:55
twoofthreehow do i install it. sudo apt-get install indicator-sound did not nothing09:55
Uateci must have done something09:56
Uatecit must have given either an error or a confirmation09:56
brainwashtwoofthree: it did nothing means that the package was already installed?09:56
brainwashcheck with "apt-cache policy indicator-sound"09:56
twoofthreeits working. willreboot. sorry09:56
twoofthreewill relog* to check09:57
twoofthreei have the volume icon back, a big thanks09:58
twoofthreeshould i be concerned that clicking "sound settings" does nothing?09:58
ObrienDaveit does not work for me either09:59
twoofthreeok, ty09:59
twoofthreewould a purple icon next to startup entries mean they are not working?09:59
ObrienDavewhere do you see that10:00
twoofthreeSessions and Startup. next to some items. Others have icons10:00
twoofthreeperhaps purple icon means "command"10:01
ObrienDavedoes it look like a gear inside the icon?10:01
twoofthreehard to say, so tiny. its purple and like a diamon or a box on its di10:02
twoofthreessome change in color towards bottom right10:02
ObrienDavename something next to the icon10:03
brainwashtwoofthree: the sound settings menu entry requires pavucontrol to be installed. reinstall pavucontrol if it is missing10:03
twoofthreeindicator application, indicator power, indicator sound,polic kit authentication agent,pulese audio system etc..10:03
twoofthreewould the comamnd be sudo apt-get install pavucontrol brainwash ?10:04
twoofthreety brainwash , already newest version10:05
twoofthreexfce volume daemon (pulseaudio) is also purple icon10:05
ObrienDavethose icons are probably just a default icon if the app has none defined10:05
twoofthreety ObrienDave10:06
ObrienDavei have a gray box with a gear inside for the same ones you described10:06
twoofthreeil enable them all and disable them all and see what happens10:06
ObrienDaveNO! just change icon sets10:06
james0ri've got a little issue with the nm-applet, i removed the indicator applet, not a big fan, and run the nm-applet at startup. didn't find this to be a problem before but now after i suspend it won't connect to networks properly. finds the networks but won't connect10:07
twoofthreeok ObrienDave  :)10:07
james0ryikes, now i can't get it to do it. seems to be only on long suspends10:16
ObrienDave!find nm-applet10:18
ubottuFile nm-applet found in app-install-data, language-pack-gnome-af-base, language-pack-gnome-am-base, language-pack-gnome-an-base, language-pack-gnome-ar-base, language-pack-gnome-as-base, language-pack-gnome-ast-base, language-pack-gnome-be-base, language-pack-gnome-bg-base, language-pack-gnome-bn-base (and 88 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=nm-applet&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any10:18
ObrienDavewhere did you get that package?10:20
james0rnot sure actually. i thought it was pre-installed10:21
james0rit might be network-manager-gnome10:21
ObrienDavei don't have it. let me look10:23
ObrienDavei have network-manager-gnome, that file is not installed10:24
taropalojames0r: it is part of network-manager-gnome10:29
james0rtaropalo, okay. so it would have been installed already eh?10:30
taropaloyes /usr/bin/nm-applet10:30
james0ri just realized that if i enable the original "Networking" option in Autostart i get the applet. I swear this wasn't working before that's why i disabled "Networking" and added my custom nm-applet line. but it's working now10:30
james0rnot sure if it will have problems after a long suspend like before, i guess i'll have to wait and see.10:31
ObrienDavewait and see10:31
james0rnot sure where i got the string to exec, but i was running nm-applet --sm-disable &, in my custom autostart line10:32
james0rnot sure what --sm-disable does10:32
ObrienDaveif you're not sure, why are you using it?10:32
james0rObrienDave, i took it from a forum and probably understood at the time i imagine.10:33
ObrienDaveo i c10:33
james0rthis is my 3rd install of xubuntu 14.04 and i tweak it out so quickly that i don't pay enough attention.10:34
james0rdo people find the indicator applet that useful? i started with a version of mint that i don't remember having it and after swtching over to xubuntu just didn't understand the benefits.10:35
james0rsome quirky behavior with it too, skype takes an extra click and seems like a couple other things.10:36
james0rminor i suppose10:36
ObrienDavewell, that's a common issue we hear a lot. "why does it not behave like X system". because it's not X system10:39
james0ri'm on 14.04.1, is there a ppa to upgrade to the newest whisker menu?10:48
james0rObrienDave, awesome. thanks.10:51
james0ri dig the categories on the left so looking forward to the newest version10:51
ObrienDaveyea, i kinda like it also10:51
ochosi!hi | Aurvandill11:26
ubottuAurvandill: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!11:26
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cfhowlettochosi, !never saw that factoid before.  nice.11:26
ochosiyup, saves lines11:27
ObrienDaveand fingers11:29
Aurvandilli'm not here for help ;)11:34
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garandilAny hints as to how to set HDMI as the default audio out device?13:55
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GridCubegarandil, you can either, disable the analog output on the last tab of pavucontrol, or select the audio stream to go through hdmi while the stream is running and it will remember for said applications14:20
GridCubethis is what i would recommend14:20
* m3n3chm0 nasZ17:39
knomem3n3chm0, ?17:40
m3n3chm0hello !17:40
m3n3chm0any option to disable the annoying systray notification icon for chromium/chrome ?¿17:41
m3n3chm0i've tried all tricks on chrome://flags... without success :/17:42
brainwashm3n3chm0: head over to #chromium-support, maybe someone there knows how to disable it17:46
m3n3chm0ok, thanks brainwash17:47
xubuntu374Im user of xubuntu latest version. GParted says that my sda1 where i was installing my system is extended partition when i was making a normal partition 0.o18:35
xubuntu374first partition is ext4 with instaled system on it and second one is undefined fs and 500mb18:36
xubuntu374what it is ?18:36
Gus81Hello, I speak Spanish, sorry for my english... A question... How hidde icons for XFCE desktop? In KDE I can, but in XFCE I can't18:43
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:43
elfyGus81: try settings - desktop - icons18:47
Gus81elfy, uff ok, solved18:51
Gus81I am stupid jaja18:51
Gus81elfy, Thank you!!18:51
elfynope - not stupid - I didn't know either till I found it :)18:52
Gus81elfy, Yes, it is that I come from Kubuntu and some things are different and you are moved around ... Sorry! I'm using Google translator19:00
elfyyep, different altogether :)19:00
Gus81Yes, i'm testing XFCE... A question, as change the color theme of the menu whisker?19:07
elfyGus81: no idea here19:08
Gus81you do not know?19:10
elfyno - sorry19:10
Gus81Ok, no problem :)19:12
Gus81Thanks anyway :)19:12
m3n3chm0 Lock screen when sleeping.. is failing19:48
m3n3chm0the screen locks :(19:48
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m3n3chm0i tried all steps found on google, all is disabled but still locking the screen and request password when the screen going to sleeping..19:49
m3n3chm0any clue guys ? :)19:49
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brainwashm3n3chm0: which steps exactly?20:03
brainwashyou can disable screen locking via settings manager > light locker settings20:03
m3n3chm0brainwash thanks a lot, i never go to that menu :S it's enabled...20:11
m3n3chm0i had tried session manager and other steps in energy ...20:11
m3n3chm0thank you20:11
xubuntu532When will 14.04.2 be ready ?22:00

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