[00:00] <ObrienDave> did you re-download the live ISO?
[00:00] <twoofthree> yes
[00:00] <twoofthree> did they remove that feature like a day ago?
[00:01] <ObrienDave> i have noticed a different menu system also. not sure what the last one was called
[00:02] <twoofthree> i simply cant tell the difference between XFCE and XUbuntu and this bothers me. is it a glitch is it right lol
[00:02] <ObrienDave> run "run a program" that has a search type function
[00:02] <ObrienDave> afaik, XFCE and Xubuntu logons are the same
[00:02] <twoofthree> if they are the same then why offer two?
[00:03] <twoofthree> all im saying is, i cant tell the difference with my eyes
[00:03] <ObrienDave> i don't know
[00:03] <twoofthree> and it has me worried
[00:03] <ObrienDave> why worried? it works, yes?
[00:03] <twoofthree> system has 2 icons in it using Xubuntu, XFCE is has like ten
[00:03] <twoofthree> what does that mean lol
[00:03] <twoofthree> this is most confusing experience
[00:04] <brainwash> it basically only matters the first time you log into the session
[00:06] <ObrienDave> i suppose it's so you can have 2 different desktop layouts. you can have more than one or two DEs available
[00:06] <ObrienDave> oh well ;P
[00:10] <xubuntu512> So I am trying to install conky and I got to the end of the set up where I have to create a text document, but I can't create it.  When I do new --> document, it give me the prompt to give the file a name, but after that nothing happens.  However when I tried to create the file again, it said that the file was already there...
[00:14] <Azelphur> xubuntu512: press ctrl+h in the file browser, it's hidden.
[00:16] <xubuntu512> well that was easy...thanks!
[00:35] <twoofthree> hello. does anyone know the command to remove the xfce power manager?
[00:36] <ObrienDave> ummm, why do you want to do that? not recommended
[00:36] <twoofthree> this pc is always on ac power
[00:36] <twoofthree> seems useless
[00:41] <ObrienDave> arbitrarily removing system packages is not a good idea. it's not hurting anything to be there
[01:12] <seg> hi -- low volumes over a USB DAC using spdif. Having a hard time finding relevant search results, anyone familiar?
[01:21] <seg> fixed with hda-analyzer. thanks
[02:30] <xubuntu866> Hello, I installed Xubuntu 14.04 64 bit, I saw that 14.04.01 has been released, am I going to get that update too?
[02:30] <holstein> xubuntu866: yes.. you can just update as you please, or open a terminal and use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be updated to the current packages
[02:31] <xubuntu866> so I have to run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get the latest version?
[02:31] <xubuntu866> Is it a reccomended procedure?
[02:31] <holstein> xubuntu866: no
[02:32] <holstein> xubuntu866: as i said, you can just update as you do.. the update manager, or whatever.. or, you can do that right now and update
[02:33] <xubuntu866> Ok, thank you holstein.
[06:43] <Slit> Hi! Could some one help me with two issue - with setting the menu items and automatically connecting to wi fi.
[07:06] <knome> Slit, ask your question; if somebody knows the answer, they will most probably reply
[07:33] <Slit> Ok knome. I can't reorder menu items on my xubuntu 14.04. Can somebody help me with that?
[07:34] <knome> please try to be more specific with your problem; how can you not, what have you tried to do to reorder them?
[07:37] <Slit> I just right click on menu -> Edit applications-> Accessories. Then I move up in that folder About me. Nothing shows in Menu when I do that.
[08:21] <toInfinityandBey> hello friends! anyone here to help me?
[08:21] <toInfinityandBey> my issue is minor. i need help installing directx with playonlinux :D
[08:21] <knome> toInfinityandBey, ask your question; if somebody knows the answer, they'll most likely reply
[08:21] <toInfinityandBey> :D
[08:21] <knome> i'd ask the playonlinux support for that question
[08:21] <toInfinityandBey> thers a playonlinux chan?
[08:22] <knome> i don't know, but i bet they have some kind of support method available
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> ah i think its a really easy issue but i am just a newbie and a bit stupid
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> do you care to look at the issue if i post the line?
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> I haven't gotten CS:GO working yet (same error that you had), but I did fix the keyboard issue in Ricochet (I was just using this to test since it was only a 250MB download). Make sure to do the following in PlayOnLinux config:
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> - Install dxfullsetup
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> - Install DirectInput
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> - Under Display:
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> -- Set GLSL to "enabled"
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> -- Set Direct Draw Renderer to "opengl"
[08:22] <toInfinityandBey> -- Set Strict Draw Ordering to "enabled"
[08:22] <knome> i'm not familiar with playonlinux
[08:22] <knome> !pastebin | toInfinityandBey
[08:23] <toInfinityandBey> my problem is.. .how do i install dxfullsetup and those others lol
[08:23] <toInfinityandBey> oh sorry didnt mean to breakthe rules, my bad
[08:23] <knome> i really don't know, but i imagine you need to install them inside playonlinux like any other software
[08:24] <toInfinityandBey> BTW : Thanks to garandil , hes a really good supporter / helper on this channel who saved my linux
[08:24] <knome> this channel really isn't your best bet on getting support with your issue (even if it's ok to ask)
[08:24] <toInfinityandBey> hm yea true il look around ,i  just been trying to get cs go working but
[08:24] <toInfinityandBey> really i want minecraft working first anyway, just trying to find some good settings for it
[08:25] <toInfinityandBey> because i just play feed-the-beast mod , but the fps is bad at the moment he  he
[08:25] <toInfinityandBey> but it sucks because my card is r9 280x sapphire vapor, and theres no drivers i can find that will work, it just uses the radeon hd 7970 which is basically the same card but its not -_-
[08:26] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, shut down all other internet accessing apps (looking at you firefox) to reduce that load.
[08:26] <toInfinityandBey> now i read a lot how ppl say its a lot easier to use nvidea with linux than amd -_-
[08:26] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, that is true
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[08:26] <toInfinityandBey> cant afford it though i just paid like $400 for this card a few months ago and its really good card
[08:27] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, AMD is not well-supported.  live with it.
[08:27] <toInfinityandBey> :D
[08:27] <toInfinityandBey> do you play any games on linux cfhowlett ?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, steam games, yes.
[08:28] <toInfinityandBey> nice.
[08:28] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, but my card is intel and the intel driver just came out.  pretty sad before that, but now much better.
[08:28] <toInfinityandBey> cool, im hoping , well i read that from gaben himself
[08:28] <knome> toInfinityandBey, cfhowlett: general chatter in #xubuntu-offtopic please
[08:28] <toInfinityandBey> he is planning to make cs go to linux
[08:28] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, steam is getting better and better about linux game support.  suggest you take a look.
[08:28] <toInfinityandBey> ok sorry
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !steam
[08:29] <toInfinityandBey> awesome! thanks
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !wine | toInfinityandBey, wine is also an option
[08:30] <toInfinityandBey> i use wine with playonlinux . is there another way to use wine?
[08:30] <toInfinityandBey> !virtualizer
[08:30] <toInfinityandBey> !vertualizers
[08:30] <toInfinityandBey> ffs -_-
[08:31] <toInfinityandBey> !wine
[08:31] <cfhowlett> toInfinityandBey, same outcome.  playonlinux is just the gui for wine.  might be possible to run some apps in !vbox.  install windows, install game, play
[08:31] <knome> toInfinityandBey, please remember that this is a family-friendly channel
[08:31] <ssamot> Hello - ever since I upgraded to 14.04 lid suspend seems to do something to the screen which kills i3 (the window manager I use). Never had any problems with suspend/resume and the laptop lid in previous versions of xubuntu
[08:50] <twoofthree> hello. When i  mouse over the volume icon using XFCE and choose sound settings, nothing opens. What can i do to repair this ?
[09:33] <Uatec> hi there
[09:34] <slickymasterWork> !hi | Uatec
[09:34] <Uatec> i installed xubuntu on my ubuntu server, and installed xrdp to connect to it as a remote desktop...
[09:34] <Uatec> but for some reason they keyboard layout is all messed up, (the symbol keys and the tab key are mapping to random things)
[09:35] <Uatec> so i look in Settings>Keyboard to change the layout, but all the drop downs are empty, no options for Model or Layout
[09:35] <Uatec> how can i install a new (correct) layout?
[09:43] <twoofthree> hello. i seem to have lost the volume icon , can anyone tell me how to get it back please?
[09:43] <twoofthree> xfce*
[09:46] <ObrienDave> look for "indicator plugin"
[09:47] <twoofthree> i have , i cant seem to get it back no matter what i do
[09:47] <Uatec> what have you done?
[09:47] <twoofthree> i removed and reinstalled pulse audio
[09:48] <ObrienDave> do you have a mail or battery icon?
[09:48] <twoofthree> i wil settle for resetting the taskbar to default and starting over, if possible
[09:48] <twoofthree> i do not, i removed those while ago before this was an issue
[09:49] <ObrienDave> right click on the taskbar, panel, add new items, add indicator plugin
[09:50] <twoofthree> done.i have the envelope and power icon back, no volume
[09:50] <brainwash> install indicator-sound
[09:51] <ObrienDave> right click mail or power icon, properties. sound menu should be there
[09:52] <twoofthree> not present ObrienDave
[09:52] <twoofthree> brainwash, how please. sudo apt-get install indicator-sound did not work
[09:52] <ObrienDave> then what brainwash said
[09:53] <twoofthree> would logging in and out work or must i restart?
[09:53] <brainwash> relogging is enough
[09:53] <ObrienDave> says something about restarting panel. try a relog
[09:54] <twoofthree> it is not back.
[09:54] <twoofthree> can i just like, start from scratch some how?
[09:55] <brainwash> installing indicator-sound did not work? any error output?
[09:55] <twoofthree> how do i install it. sudo apt-get install indicator-sound did not nothing
[09:56] <Uatec> i must have done something
[09:56] <Uatec> it must have given either an error or a confirmation
[09:56] <twoofthree> moment
[09:56] <brainwash> twoofthree: it did nothing means that the package was already installed?
[09:56] <brainwash> check with "apt-cache policy indicator-sound"
[09:56] <twoofthree> its working. willreboot. sorry
[09:57] <twoofthree> will relog* to check
[09:58] <twoofthree> i have the volume icon back, a big thanks
[09:58] <twoofthree> should i be concerned that clicking "sound settings" does nothing?
[09:59] <ObrienDave> it does not work for me either
[09:59] <twoofthree> ok, ty
[09:59] <twoofthree> would a purple icon next to startup entries mean they are not working?
[10:00] <ObrienDave> where do you see that
[10:00] <twoofthree> Sessions and Startup. next to some items. Others have icons
[10:01] <twoofthree> perhaps purple icon means "command"
[10:01] <ObrienDave> does it look like a gear inside the icon?
[10:02] <twoofthree> hard to say, so tiny. its purple and like a diamon or a box on its di
[10:02] <twoofthree> ssome change in color towards bottom right
[10:02] <twoofthree> side*
[10:03] <ObrienDave> name something next to the icon
[10:03] <brainwash> twoofthree: the sound settings menu entry requires pavucontrol to be installed. reinstall pavucontrol if it is missing
[10:03] <twoofthree> indicator application, indicator power, indicator sound,polic kit authentication agent,pulese audio system etc..
[10:04] <twoofthree> would the comamnd be sudo apt-get install pavucontrol brainwash ?
[10:05] <twoofthree> ty brainwash , already newest version
[10:05] <twoofthree> xfce volume daemon (pulseaudio) is also purple icon
[10:05] <ObrienDave> those icons are probably just a default icon if the app has none defined
[10:06] <twoofthree> ty ObrienDave
[10:06] <ObrienDave> i have a gray box with a gear inside for the same ones you described
[10:06] <twoofthree> il enable them all and disable them all and see what happens
[10:06] <ObrienDave> NO! just change icon sets
[10:07] <james0r> i've got a little issue with the nm-applet, i removed the indicator applet, not a big fan, and run the nm-applet at startup. didn't find this to be a problem before but now after i suspend it won't connect to networks properly. finds the networks but won't connect
[10:07] <twoofthree> ok ObrienDave  :)
[10:16] <james0r> yikes, now i can't get it to do it. seems to be only on long suspends
[10:18] <ObrienDave> !find nm-applet
[10:20] <ObrienDave> where did you get that package?
[10:21] <james0r> not sure actually. i thought it was pre-installed
[10:21] <james0r> it might be network-manager-gnome
[10:23] <ObrienDave> i don't have it. let me look
[10:24] <ObrienDave> i have network-manager-gnome, that file is not installed
[10:29] <taropalo> james0r: it is part of network-manager-gnome
[10:30] <james0r> taropalo, okay. so it would have been installed already eh?
[10:30] <taropalo> yes /usr/bin/nm-applet
[10:30] <james0r> i just realized that if i enable the original "Networking" option in Autostart i get the applet. I swear this wasn't working before that's why i disabled "Networking" and added my custom nm-applet line. but it's working now
[10:31] <james0r> not sure if it will have problems after a long suspend like before, i guess i'll have to wait and see.
[10:31] <ObrienDave> wait and see
[10:32] <james0r> not sure where i got the string to exec, but i was running nm-applet --sm-disable &, in my custom autostart line
[10:32] <james0r> not sure what --sm-disable does
[10:32] <ObrienDave> if you're not sure, why are you using it?
[10:33] <james0r> ObrienDave, i took it from a forum and probably understood at the time i imagine.
[10:33] <ObrienDave> o i c
[10:34] <james0r> this is my 3rd install of xubuntu 14.04 and i tweak it out so quickly that i don't pay enough attention.
[10:35] <james0r> do people find the indicator applet that useful? i started with a version of mint that i don't remember having it and after swtching over to xubuntu just didn't understand the benefits.
[10:36] <james0r> some quirky behavior with it too, skype takes an extra click and seems like a couple other things.
[10:36] <james0r> minor i suppose
[10:39] <ObrienDave> well, that's a common issue we hear a lot. "why does it not behave like X system". because it's not X system
[10:48] <james0r> i'm on 14.04.1, is there a ppa to upgrade to the newest whisker menu?
[10:50] <ObrienDave> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-whisker-menu-1-4-on-xubuntu-14-04-xubuntu-13-10-xubuntu-12-04-and-linux-mint-17-linux-mint-16-and-linux-mint-13-using-xfce/
[10:51] <james0r> ObrienDave, awesome. thanks.
[10:51] <james0r> i dig the categories on the left so looking forward to the newest version
[10:51] <ObrienDave> yea, i kinda like it also
[11:25] <Aurvandill> hello
[11:26] <ochosi> !hi | Aurvandill
[11:26] <cfhowlett> ochosi, !never saw that factoid before.  nice.
[11:27] <ochosi> yup, saves lines
[11:29] <ObrienDave> and fingers
[11:34] <Aurvandill> i'm not here for help ;)
[13:55] <garandil> Any hints as to how to set HDMI as the default audio out device?
[14:20] <GridCube> garandil, you can either, disable the analog output on the last tab of pavucontrol, or select the audio stream to go through hdmi while the stream is running and it will remember for said applications
[14:20] <GridCube> this is what i would recommend
[17:39]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[17:40] <knome> m3n3chm0, ?
[17:40] <m3n3chm0> hello !
[17:40] <knome> hello
[17:41] <m3n3chm0> any option to disable the annoying systray notification icon for chromium/chrome ?¿
[17:42] <m3n3chm0> i've tried all tricks on chrome://flags... without success :/
[17:46] <brainwash> m3n3chm0: head over to #chromium-support, maybe someone there knows how to disable it
[17:47] <m3n3chm0> ok, thanks brainwash
[18:33] <xubuntu374> hi
[18:35] <xubuntu374> Im user of xubuntu latest version. GParted says that my sda1 where i was installing my system is extended partition when i was making a normal partition 0.o
[18:36] <xubuntu374> first partition is ext4 with instaled system on it and second one is undefined fs and 500mb
[18:36] <xubuntu374> what it is ?
[18:36] <xubuntu374> 0.o
[18:43] <Gus81> Hello, I speak Spanish, sorry for my english... A question... How hidde icons for XFCE desktop? In KDE I can, but in XFCE I can't
[18:43] <Pici> !es
[18:47] <elfy> Gus81: try settings - desktop - icons
[18:51] <Gus81> elfy, uff ok, solved
[18:51] <Gus81> I am stupid jaja
[18:51] <Gus81> elfy, Thank you!!
[18:52] <elfy> nope - not stupid - I didn't know either till I found it :)
[19:00] <Gus81> elfy, Yes, it is that I come from Kubuntu and some things are different and you are moved around ... Sorry! I'm using Google translator
[19:00] <elfy> yep, different altogether :)
[19:07] <Gus81> Yes, i'm testing XFCE... A question, as change the color theme of the menu whisker?
[19:08] <elfy> Gus81: no idea here
[19:10] <Gus81> you do not know?
[19:10] <elfy> no - sorry
[19:12] <Gus81> Ok, no problem :)
[19:12] <Gus81> Thanks anyway :)
[19:12] <elfy> :)
[19:48] <m3n3chm0>  Lock screen when sleeping.. is failing
[19:48] <m3n3chm0> the screen locks :(
[19:49] <m3n3chm0> i tried all steps found on google, all is disabled but still locking the screen and request password when the screen going to sleeping..
[19:49] <m3n3chm0> any clue guys ? :)
[20:03] <brainwash> m3n3chm0: which steps exactly?
[20:03] <brainwash> you can disable screen locking via settings manager > light locker settings
[20:11] <m3n3chm0> OUCH
[20:11] <m3n3chm0> brainwash thanks a lot, i never go to that menu :S it's enabled...
[20:11] <m3n3chm0> i had tried session manager and other steps in energy ...
[20:11] <m3n3chm0> thank you
[22:00] <xubuntu532> When will 14.04.2 be ready ?