| ShalokShalom | Topic Link (Kubuntu 5 Test ISO http://goo.gl/nn2Zej ) Is dead | 07:42 |
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| ShalokShalom | I want to become a tester for 12.04.5 with 4.14 from backports. :) | 07:42 |
| valorie | ShalokShalom: I suggest joining #kubuntu-devel or at least the kubuntu-devel mail list | 07:44 |
| valorie | and make your interest known in either/both | 07:44 |
| ShalokShalom | this is kubuntu-devel ? | 07:44 |
| valorie | oh sheesh | 07:45 |
| ShalokShalom | :) | 07:45 |
| * valorie blushes | 07:45 | |
| lordievader | valorie: ;) | 07:45 |
| ShalokShalom | you are the girl from g plus ? | 07:45 |
| valorie | you're right about that link | 07:45 |
| valorie | the girl? | 07:45 |
| ShalokShalom | ok, so no | 07:45 |
| * valorie is female for sure, but it's been a long time since i was a girl | 07:45 | |
| ShalokShalom | there is a hacker girl from kubuntu on g plus, with a similar nick | 07:45 |
| ShalokShalom | ah, ok | 07:46 |
| ShalokShalom | my english is buggy | 07:46 |
| ShalokShalom | i mean female/woman ofc | 07:46 |
| lordievader | ShalokShalom: Perhaps you are thinking of sgclark. | 07:46 |
| valorie | I am the only Valorie on g+, I just checked | 07:47 |
| valorie | didn't know I had fame there | 07:47 |
| valorie | lol | 07:47 |
| ShalokShalom | since most genius person, which i ever meet in the open source scene, is a she, i put more attention on females :P | 07:48 |
| valorie | the only kernel devel I know is female | 07:50 |
| ShalokShalom | ah | 07:52 |
| ShalokShalom | i mean anke/demm, who creates KaOS | 07:53 |
| valorie | anke -- I think she used to come into the linuxchix chan | 07:56 |
| valorie | years ago | 07:56 |
| valorie | loads of people there, all smarter than me | 07:56 |
| ShalokShalom | :) | 07:57 |
| ShalokShalom | valorie: we write about wayland | 07:58 |
| === vinay is now known as Guest39438 | ||
| Riddell | hi ShalokShalom | 08:02 |
| ShalokShalom | hi | 08:02 |
| Riddell | ShalokShalom: I'm not doing backports of 4.14 on Kubuntu 12.04, we only backport to the latest LTS | 08:03 |
| ShalokShalom | yes, i see, 4.13.2 is ready, yes ? :) | 08:04 |
| ShalokShalom | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.13.2 | 08:05 |
| Riddell | ShalokShalom: yep | 08:05 |
| ShalokShalom | ok, so i want to test that :P | 08:06 |
| ShalokShalom | what is important ? | 08:06 |
| Riddell | in testing 4.13? test baloo file search and kontact, they're the two most flakey bits | 08:13 |
| ShalokShalom | ok | 08:13 |
| ShalokShalom | baloo work ever fine to me | 08:14 |
| ShalokShalom | kontact was buggy, since i know it | 08:14 |
| soee | Riddell: maybe it would be a good idea to have some page for people that want to test for example KDE SC with some steps they should do/check so if someone shows up here ready to do test, we can | 08:33 |
| soee | give him such link and he would know what to do, also it would be a good idea to allow comments for testers on such page so they can tell what is good/wrong etc | 08:34 |
| Riddell | soee: good idea, go ahead :) | 08:37 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Octopii Fan Club | https://trello.com/kubuntu | ||
| valorie | woah, our /topic has shrunk | 08:40 |
| Riddell | lots of things todo in https://trello.com/kubuntu :) | 08:41 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | ||
| ShalokShalom | soee: thats exactly, what i search, yes. :) | 08:47 |
| ShalokShalom | a step by step guide | 08:47 |
| soee | Riddell: ill try to f | 09:06 |
| soee | *prepare something | 09:06 |
| soee | ShalokShalom: where did you get info that testers are needed ? | 09:07 |
| soee | some social media, other user or ? | 09:07 |
| ShalokShalom | valorie told me that | 09:07 |
| soee | ah the girl :D | 09:08 |
| ShalokShalom | yep | 09:08 |
| ShalokShalom | :P | 09:08 |
| valorie | pfff | 09:08 |
| ShalokShalom | haha | 09:08 |
| ShalokShalom | by the way: does anyone have saved the deb`s of remastersys or the black lab imager ? | 09:09 |
| ShalokShalom | both go offline | 09:09 |
| ShalokShalom | or the source ? | 09:09 |
| ShalokShalom | valorie: we all have a children in us, please take it as a compliment ;) | 09:10 |
| valorie | it is not respectful to women to call them girls | 09:11 |
| valorie | yes, I do have a child in me though, for sure | 09:11 |
| ShalokShalom | it was a language spellinh mistake | 09:12 |
| valorie | anyway, need to go to sleep now, it's after 2am here | 09:12 |
| valorie | niters | 09:12 |
| ShalokShalom | ok, gn8 | 09:12 |
| valorie | have fun testing | 09:13 |
| Riddell | "Arthur Schiwon (blizzz) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay Blizzz still loves us! | 10:00 |
| Blizzz | always! have a place in my heart, yo ;) | 10:08 |
| Riddell | :) but will you still when I remove all the owncloud blogs from planet as I've been asked to, that would show true love | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | yofel: whatever is going to happen to frameworks packaging in git? | 10:41 |
| yofel | got distracted by me being on vacation and raphael's git packaging layout thread on debian-devel a bit | 10:42 |
| yofel | how would we go about repositories owned by different teams btw.? | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | yofel: push rights is per team? | 10:43 |
| yofel | pretty much from what I see on git.debian.org | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | gives me a headache | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well, either we get add to the team or the repo moves to pkg-kde I'd say | 10:45 |
| Riddell | surely kubuntu and debian would have to be the same team for it to make any sense? | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: pkg-kde would not have push rights to debian-mm so we couldn't fiddle with qtmultimedia for example | 10:46 |
| yofel | just mentioning it as AFAIK ScottK said something about putting kapidox in the python team | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | (assming that is maintained by debian-mm) | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | kapidox in python sounds peculiar | 10:46 |
| yofel | [06:40:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer: kapidox is, from a packaging perspective, a python app, so putting it in the python apps team made more sense. | 10:46 |
| yofel | you might want to read #debian-qt-kde every now and then, you're even there :P | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | I am not at workstation | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | I fixed pkg-kde-tools | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | no more patching ECM | 10:48 |
| yofel | shadeslayer++ | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | though pkg-kde-tools has a shitty workaround for setting ECM__MKSPECS_INSTALL_DIR | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | https://github.com/shadeslayer/pkg-kde-tools/commit/2a4175ffa8bdad6c77db56e8553e49d56c8cd983 | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 10:51 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: is github seriously the best way to do feature work on debian branches? :/ | 10:51 |
| yofel | well, $external_git_repo_management | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | nope, but it was the easiest :( | 10:52 |
| yofel | bummer | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I'll try to figure out alioth on the weekend | 10:52 |
| * shadeslayer retries tier 1 | 10:52 | |
| shadeslayer | I like Quintasan's comment on the ML | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | so much time invested in neon | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | ;_; | 10:54 |
| yofel | well, without neon I think we wouldn't be having the CP talk in the first place | 10:54 |
| yofel | we'll still have the memories :P | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging-unstable | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | FWIW BTW, if github's group management wasn't pretty mental I'd totally support moving our packaging to github should we encounter problems with the move to alioth :P | 10:57 |
| yofel | shouldn't we - at that point - ask upstream whether we can move there? | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | using another remote (debian) is just as nice as having one repo with many branches, only disadvantage being that the initial setup is more of a pain in the bum | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | things seem to be building | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | yofel: upstream has global push rights | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | I am awesome | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | I conquered perl | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | only took me 3 days | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | and I for one would not be comfortable backing push applications from any random packager considering they can then also accidentially break every kde repo in existance | 10:59 |
| yofel | doesn't gentoo have their stuff upstream? | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | nope | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | there's also the small issue of team thingies in Launchpad | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what's that? | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | so everyone in ubuntu-dev can push things in LP | 11:00 |
| yofel | what was that emege stuff in kdesupport then? | 11:00 |
| yofel | *emerge | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: marginally uninteresting to be honest :P | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | but if we move to KDE git / github, you lose that | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I can see people raising hell about it | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | one could probably even automate auto-archive-sync | 11:00 |
| * shadeslayer is hungry | 11:01 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I'll raise hell about launchpad using a shit vcs then | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:01 |
| yofel | I did talk about team permissions with maxy at some point weeks ago, ended without conclusion | 11:01 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - There be Unicorns | https://trello.com/kubuntu | ||
| yofel | Riddell: what's up with the minimalistic topic btw.? | 11:02 |
| Riddell | yofel: I just took out the link to 4.14 (cos it's out) and plasma 5 ISOs (cos they moved) | 11:03 |
| yofel | hm, ok | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | that is not true, you also removed the octopii | 11:04 |
| Riddell | well yes, that joke was getting old | 11:04 |
| yofel | it was ^^ | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | u just don't appreciate the awesomeness of the octopus | 11:05 |
| Riddell | oh when you do SUP Yoga among muchos medusas you learn there are many awesome things in the sea | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lp5a-r3MJU | 11:05 |
| Blizzz | Riddell: even removing ownCloud blogs from Planet KDE (this you mean?) will not affecting my love. Though I do not know why they should be removed. But i also heard Qt stuff was about to be removed, no? | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do we want the l10n stuff for KF5 and friends? | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | in pkg-kde-tools | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the l10n stuff? | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: extraction you mean? | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | the l10n stuff | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | yeah, we need that :P | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | why? | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBJdKHw-zQ | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: for our software | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 11:19 |
| Riddell | Blizzz: owncloud isn't part of KDE any more so it's been suggested I should remove people who only blog about owncloud and not KDE | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | I'll port it over then | 11:19 |
| Riddell | Blizzz: the Qt news blog isn't on planet kde | 11:19 |
| Blizzz | Riddell: I believe the woboq guys are/were on Planet KDE and were mostly blogging about Qt | 11:22 |
| Blizzz | but maybe my memory just mixes things up | 11:22 |
| Riddell | Blizzz: hmm, maybe I should zap them down too | 11:23 |
| Blizzz | mh… | 11:24 |
| Riddell | and blame it on you :) | 11:26 |
| Blizzz | such a conspiracy | 11:28 |
| sgclark | Riddell: seems I can no longer build anything, every package gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8105612/ | 11:44 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ^ | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: sorry | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | just a moment | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: fixed | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | debs should be published in ~30 minutes | 12:20 |
| sgclark | what was it? | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | I'm working on fixing pkg-kde-tools | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | porting it to KF5 | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | I forgot to disable policy checks for the old scripts | 12:21 |
| sgclark | ok, thanks | 12:21 |
| yofel | you'll have to make that accept kubuntu dev too, as not all our new package have the debian team as orig maint. | 12:22 |
| yofel | *packages | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I just remove the check | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | it's useless for us | 12:22 |
| yofel | that'll work too :) | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8105819/ | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | ok, ki18n failed | 12:23 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | usr/qt5/imports/kf5/ktranscript.so but should be in usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/kf5/ktranscript.so | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | weird | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | stupid me | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | https://github.com/shadeslayer/pkg-kde-tools/commit/981e3381f2d118a0bab14d3d8649ef7d4d1f9bc3 | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | :p | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: stupid sed/regex question | 12:32 |
| yofel | that doesn't exist :P | 12:32 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 12:32 |
| shadeslayer | I want to match pkg-kde-tools*, and replace it by pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.15.15) | 12:33 |
| mcstr__ | anyone here got a bit of experience with yad? | 12:35 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I'm not sure if sed can do that reliably... at least I don't think it has a non-greedy version of * | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | what's yad 0.o | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: hm | 12:35 |
| mcstr__ | shadeslayer yad = yet another dialog program | 12:36 |
| mcstr__ | it's supposed to create easy dialogues with checkboxes, buttons, etc. | 12:36 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I'm pretty sure you can do a perl one-liner though if you really need it short | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | fortunately all pkg-kde-tools build deps are unversioned | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | so meh | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | lucky me | 12:37 |
| shadeslayer | tier 1 being pushed now | 12:39 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| yofel | I had the same problem with kubuntu-initial-upload, which is why it ended up having a weird regex for that | 12:40 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm you think upstream me should make daily tars for Plasma? | 12:40 |
| yofel | python does have non-greedy patterns though | 12:40 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: where do you need that? | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: all pkg-kde-tools need to have a versioned build depends now | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | since I switched to using the 3rd iteration of the debian-qt-kde scripts | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sonnet/revision/40 | 12:42 |
| yofel | ah, I would probably end up writing that with python (maybe playing around with dep822 or how that was called) | 12:42 |
| mcstr__ | so no one then? :( | 12:44 |
| shadeslayer | dep822 yep | 12:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: sounds a bit overengineered :p | 12:44 |
| * yofel only knows about zenity and kdailog, never heard of yad | 12:44 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer: probably ^^ | 12:44 |
| shadeslayer | find . -name control | xargs sed -i 's/pkg-kde-tools/pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.15.15)/' | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | worked for me ^^ :p | 12:45 |
| yofel | now hope that nothing had a version :P | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | I checked | 12:45 |
| yofel | ok, that'll do the job then | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | find . -name control | xargs grep pkg-kde-tools gave me nothing | 12:45 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: how is the x session started in the kubuntu-plasma5 iso? | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: sddm -> starts x -> starts sddm-helper -> autologin kicks in -> sddm-helper is killed -> startkde | 14:07 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: that seems to create problems with some boot options | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | casper autologin scripts write the config for autologin in sddm | 14:07 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: "text" should normally not start x ... but on this iso x is started | 14:08 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: the ubiquity "noninteractive" boot option does not work ... it simply starts the graphical session | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | sigh | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: does it work on the kde 4 iso? | 14:09 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: yeah | 14:09 |
| kdeuser56 | kubuntu utopic works ... kubuntu-plasma5 utopic does not work | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^ | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: no, what we discussed in randa entails rolling tars via jenkins | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | in fact possibly to such an extent that you can obtain the actual release tars via jenkins | 14:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: rolling tars using a different method than the final tars are made from defeats the purpose really, if jenkins gets tarme built into it that would be cool | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the idea is that jenkins would use tarme :P | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | one of the ideas behind this is that as a random developer you do not have to bother with fiddling around with the release scripting, but you could get a tar from jenkins and use that as your release tar, and possibly even have a button in jenkins that would tag the rev the tar came from as $version | 14:28 |
| Riddell | yes that would be most lovely | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | Alex had all sorts of crazy ideas in his pursuite of making releasing things less complicated | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't think they were crazy btw | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | because all of this already exists on platforms like github | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | I even proposed this 6 months back with git next | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. dev just pushes tag, CI generates tar | 14:30 |
| yofel | don't they currently do thing the opposite way? | 14:31 |
| yofel | *thingſ | 14:31 |
| yofel | that's a funny character... | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | release tar and tag? yes | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | tag -> tar is largely disliked | 14:32 |
| Riddell | should we try to release Kubuntu Plasma 5 along with Beta 1 next week? | 14:54 |
| Riddell | yo sgclark, how are you getting on with partition manager and kscreen? | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | is plasma5 image stable after installation now or is it still hit and miss ? | 14:58 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I committed my partionmanager change yesterday... I am behind on kscreen as since last night I could not use debuild. Fixed now and working on it... | 14:58 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: we don't know until you test it out | 15:02 |
| BluesKaj | hehe, ok Riddell, fair enough :) | 15:02 |
| Riddell | here's a really important question, should the cdimage pages for Kubuntu Plasma 5 use Ubuntu Font or Oxygen Font? | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | gotta confess I never use Ubuntu font | 15:13 |
| sgclark | ^ same | 15:17 |
| Riddell | what do you use? | 15:18 |
| sgclark | oxygen | 15:19 |
| kdeuser56 | hard decision, both look good | 15:20 |
| Riddell | sgclark: partitionmanager uploaded! you can probably move that card to Done now | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: upstream ftw? :P | 15:22 |
| Riddell | size limit on cdimage is.. | 15:27 |
| Riddell | 1,073,741,824 | 15:27 |
| Riddell | 1,102,970,880 ← our current amd64 size | 15:27 |
| Riddell | 1,207,959,552 ← current plasma5 image size | 15:29 |
| Riddell | what size limit shall I set it to? | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | 5 gig | 15:30 |
| Riddell | nooo | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | or you know, someone could clean up | 15:30 |
| Riddell | ah, I see, you are using irony | 15:30 |
| * apachelogger too stupid to use cut | 15:31 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell, yofel, shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/recipes/files that's what build recipe definition looks like | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | I do wonder whether a list with generic recipes would be more fruitful though | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | I call symlink | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | ah wait | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | at least in neon we currently have the recipes largely diverging because they also define build deps and whatnot | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: empty recipes? :p | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no no they are symlinks alright | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | ?? | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | all recipes symlink to _standard | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | which in turn specifies the recipe through _common | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | then launchpad is being weird | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | all without params because presently there is no need for any special stuff, and it is this lack of need that makes me wonder whether a text file listing stuff meant to build wouldn't be more useful | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | it most probably would | 15:36 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer, Riddell: just tested and recorded again, so that you can be absolutely sure my report was right: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-ihXi2hkCPfLVZlLW1zYnVuRWM/edit | 15:42 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer, Riddell: the utopic-desktop-amd64.iso is the kde 4 based iso | 15:43 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer, Riddell: the kubuntu-plasma5 iso simply ignores the "text" and the "noninteractive" boot parameter and boots straight to the desktop, which makes preseeding impossible | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/casper/utopic/view/head:/scripts/casper-bottom/15autologin | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: that's how it autologins | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | well hm | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | you probably want to grep casper | 15:44 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: it seems this script is invoked too early | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | to see what happens when you pass text | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: no, something is not invoked when you boot with text | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | which causes 15autologin to get invoked | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: I have a fix | 15:46 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: great | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/casper/utopic/view/head:/scripts/casper-bottom/25configure_init#L31 | 15:47 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: does that also fix the noninteractive boot parameter, which is far more important? | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | it should | 15:47 |
| * shadeslayer is trying to understand the regex there | 15:47 | |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: I can report you back tomorrow when the new iso is done | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | yep, thx al0t | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | *alot | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, yofel: I swear to god, I have to see a package where wrap-and-sort will not touch half the files | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | it's madness | 15:49 |
| Riddell | why is that madness? | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | because like I said when I first complained about it people have, are, and will forget to run it thus making someone else pointlessly polluting the version control history with even more pointless lines moves | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | ohohoh | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I remember what other problem I saw with versions | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | I think merging with the same changelog stanza will make the merge tool fall over dead | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | since stable chanes and unstable changes would be interlaced substantially | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | kdeuser56: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8107219/ | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | so I think what needs to happen is that the unstable branch has a dedicated stanza listing the unstable changes ontop of the stable changes | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | i.e. kwin unstable right now would have 5.0.50 or something | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | ideally the version stanzas actually should be automated, but since upstream Riddell doesn't enforce one variable to define the version in all workspace repos that is a bit impossible right now :'< | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | dch really hates me | 15:56 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: thx, you are amazing! I will test again with tomorrows iso, should be in there right? | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | eys | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | *yes | 15:56 |
| kdeuser56 | great | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | thanks for finding that corner case | 15:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: wait one cotton picking minute, upstream Riddell does enforce one variable in Plasma 5.1 for versions | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you? | 15:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: just did that yesterday/today | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | oh lovely then | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | so we could ditch changelogs entirely and build automatically from commit messages even xD | 15:58 |
| Riddell | set(PROJECT_VERSION "5.0.95") | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell++ | 15:58 |
| Riddell | although it does need this to get a shipit https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119882/ | 15:58 |
| Riddell | which requires d_ed to take a second look | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | mister beard | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/pmiw5n6k4 | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | I am really not sure about this | 16:03 |
| * apachelogger shall start a notes page on CP tomorrow | 16:03 | |
| Riddell | why are you not sure about build-dep on libepoxy? | 16:04 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how do you expect 5.0.2 to be packaged? | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that'd be from the stable branch | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure about the changelogging, not about the bdep xD | 16:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: right but then how does the stable branch get merged into the unstable branch? | 16:06 |
| d_ed | Riddell: see comment before shipping, shout IRL if you disagree | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bzr merge | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: by hand (although in the mid term that should also be automated in some form or fashion) | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | the by hand factor is why I argued that bzr is rubbish for this endavor :P | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | at the end of the day when automated merges fail a human will have to forward merge stable into unstable | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | there's also the question of how much/if we should automated version bumps in the changelog ... i.e. if the project_version in cmake changes we could have automation that declares the present packaging 5.0.whatever and branches it automatically for a human to then do a release pack | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | could be iritating though | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | many options are at hand, most of them raise questions I have no good answer for :( | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: anywho, general workflow is fix up stable ->> forward merge changes into unstable ->> triggers unstable rebuilds ->> fix up unstable | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | oh noes kwin failed | 16:16 |
| Riddell | sounds like faff | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | ohhh wayland | 16:17 |
| * Riddell sings the wayland song | 16:18 | |
| apachelogger | if one of you wants to toy with the present stuff feel free to, shadeslayer should be able to trigger builds | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I'll try to beat it into green state tomorrow | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | is there no install option the plasma5 image disk...seemed to run ok without any freezes | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ .. no ubiquity installer ? | 17:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/kscreen ready for review. | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | ubiquity installer is missing from the image...http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I think you broke kwin building https://launchpadlibrarian.net/182900537/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-i386.kwin_4%3A5.0.50%2Bgit20140821.2014~5cc66f1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | oha | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: nevermind | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | it appears that lib is new | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | my oh my, the changes in kwin alone | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | outragous | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-cp | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | random notes as of right now | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | mh | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | did we always package kwin as 300 packages? | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | the libs seem somewhat overzealous considering they are only supposed to be used by other workspace | 20:35 |
| yofel | usually, even for multiple gl's | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well the gl spliting makes sense | 20:36 |
| debfx | the more the merrier | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | in the future even more so along the line of x11 vs. wayland | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | but libkwin4-effect-builtins1 surely doesn't need or want its own lib package | 20:36 |
| yofel | added fun if you make sure kwin needs at least 4 build runs until every package is filled | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | much silly | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | KISS I say | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | anywho, I dunno what to do with libkwin | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | upstream chooses to ignore my suggestion of putting a private in their lib names to make clear that they are private :'< | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | actually | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: use some upstream release dude powers and make that happen plz ;) | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | did not | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | I need to be beyond the ballmer curve to achieve that brokenness | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | no roommates \o/ | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | I have all the wifi | 20:56 |
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| soee | latest updates, error when processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libpowerdevilcore2_4%3a5.0.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_amd64.deb | 21:22 |
| ShalokShalom | i install a fresh 12.04.5 and load the 4.13.2 ppa - that kills my oxygen window decortion (which reappears after reboot) and dont take any effekt, i am still on 4.8.5 | 23:33 |
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