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cjwatsonNoskcaj: gucharmap branch> I'm afraid I have no idea00:14
cjwatsonjtaylor: that means your autoreconf isn't sufficient.  Note that there are configurations where autoreconf doesn't update config.{guess,sub} and you need to update them separately - see spectemu for the first example of doing that that comes to mind00:16
cjwatsonjtaylor: or indeed openssh00:17
cjwatsonRiddell: if you have a test package for kde4libs/armhf then I can try it on a porter box00:23
cjwatsondoko_: I stole your hfsutils merge to help unblock merges.u.c00:54
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cjwatsonRiddell: Looks like kde-baseapps 4:4.14.0-whatever didn't get uploaded?  Looking at the ark dep-wait01:15
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sarnexhi. i'm trying to pull the latest wine source from the ubuntu wine ppa, apply one patch, and uploaded the patched version to my own PPA. every time I try it, the one of my PPA does not contain my patch. how can i fix this?02:34
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pittiGood morning04:25
pittidoko_: yes, will do; current autopkgtest machines are annoying, they are heavily overloaded with other bits and the qemus keep timing out :(04:26
pittiok, tests work better again, I cleaned up some old stale processes on those; /dev/shm was full or almost full on these05:12
pittidoko_: so for gcc-4.9, the only package which fails but isn't forced is kde-runtime, which is still uninstallable on i386 (some problem with phonon); so I suppose you might want to ask the release team to override that, too?05:36
pittiScottK: ^05:36
ScottKpitti: Looks like it's caught up in the VLC transition.05:42
pittiScottK: right; that's fine in -proposed, but I suppose britney needs some hinting to not block gcc on it05:44
ScottKIt'd pass the test (which is what britney appears to block on) if phonon-backend-vlc were installable in proposed.05:44
ScottKI could force the test, but why not make it pass instead.05:45
pittieven better :)05:45
ScottKTest build going now.05:47
ScottKpitti: I just uploaded phonon-backend-vlc 0.7.80-0ubuntu2.  Once it's built/published on the relevant archs, would you please requeue kde-runtime for retesting.05:54
pittiScottK: my pleasure, thanks for fixing!05:55
ScottKThanks.05:55
ScottKOff to bed for me then.05:56
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dholbachgood morning06:44
highvolt1geo/06:49
Ozzyboshihello chat i want to fork an existing project licensed under gpl3, do you know if i am forced to license my forked project on the same license?06:57
pittiOzzyboshi: yes, you can't change the license without permission of all current copyright holders06:58
Ozzyboshipitti, ok so gpl2+ for example is not allowed because the main project is gpl3 right?06:59
pittiOzzyboshi: correct; the other way around would work07:00
Ozzyboshipitti, thank you a lot07:01
Unit193http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/c/cryptsetup/unstable_changelog FWIW, Debian added a lot of the Ubuntu delta for cryptsetup.  Might be handy to review the systemd/systemd-shim support and merge?07:01
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dokoRiddell, I would appreciate it if you could check for work arounds which are not necessary anymore, when uploading new KDE packages, e.g. kde4libs07:54
Riddelldoko: I know therer's a failure on arm but I need to faff around to set up my arm machine again to check if that gcc-4.7 workaround is still needed08:01
dokoRiddell, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.14.0-0ubuntu2/+build/628672908:02
dokonow needs an update for the symbols files08:02
Riddelldoko: ah hah, thanks.  although it'll probably still need to be built locally else it'll need uploads for every library in that package08:04
dokoRiddell, currently doing that. but please check the other packages for old GCC usage and other workrounds08:05
Riddellthanks doko08:05
Riddelldoko: now for a challenge, smokeqt is broken, no change in the code since it compiled fine, compiling with older gcc doesn't help, i've no idea on that one08:41
pittidoko: gcc-4.9 is "valid candidate" now \o/08:47
dokopitti, alreay migrated08:47
pittidoko: yeah, just saw the "jenkins fixed" mail for kde4libs08:48
TJ-Riddell: The bug is that in QT 5 QDir::operator=() has two overloads, but the code doesn't make clear which one is required. In QT 4.8 there was only one ::operator=() so there was no ambiguity08:54
RiddellTJ-: mm, but smokeqt uses Qt 408:55
TJ-Riddell: it does? I saw something that pointed to the QT5 issue, since its been pretty common; let me re-read the build log08:57
dokoTJ, Riddell: can you check with gcc-snapshot?08:59
* Riddell tries09:01
Riddelldoko: I just install gcc-snapshot and compile as normal with gcc-4.9 ?09:06
dokono09:06
dokoPATH=/usr/lib/gcc-snapshot/bin:$PATH, and use gcc and g++. Maybe you need to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH too09:07
Riddellah gotcha09:08
Riddelldoko: nope, no change09:16
dokoRiddell, ok, and 4.8?09:16
* Riddell tries again09:17
Riddelldoko: much the same, http://paste.kde.org/ptikq0thn (snapshot) http://paste.kde.org/pwcqhqtnu (4.9) http://paste.kde.org/pxkjlsi9i (4.8)09:19
dokoRiddell, interesting09:20
LocutusOfBorg1sorry what is missing for the wx2.8 migration?09:25
cjwatsonScottK: Thanks for phonon-backend-vlc.  I identified that last night, but I had to fix vlc/powerpc first and then had to sleep.09:25
dokoRiddell, my guess is that something in the build dependencies (c++ headers) changed09:28
cjwatsondoko: Can I steal your graphicsmagick merge?10:09
cjwatsonActually, might be a sync, let's see10:10
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cjwatsondoko: Yeah, it's a sync, I'll JFDI10:14
dokocjwatson, steal whatever you want ;)10:23
doko- (subst)_ZN11KColorUtils3mixERK6QColorS2_{qreal}@Base 4:4.3.410:23
doko+ _ZN11KColorUtils3mixERK6QColorS2_f@Base 4:4.14.0-0ubuntu310:23
doko+#MISSING: 4:4.14.0-0ubuntu3# (subst)_ZN11KColorUtils3mixERK6QColorS2_{qreal}@Base 4:4.3.410:23
dokoRiddell, ^^^ I don't nderstand why this fails10:23
zbenjaminogra_: did the new adbd land in image r202?10:25
ogra_zbenjamin, nope10:25
Riddelldoko: something to do with qreal not being the same on armhf?10:25
apacheloggerdoko: qreal is double on some architectures and float on others, so qreal != f10:26
apacheloggera random guess that is10:26
zbenjaminogra_: strange since i upgraded i cannot connect anymore10:26
cjwatsonqreal is f on armhf though10:26
zbenjaminogra_: setting a pw did not help10:26
ogra_zbenjamin, i wouoldnt land that without a loud and noisy announcement to the ML10:26
cjwatsonIs it actually being substituted properly?10:26
ogra_zbenjamin, adb didnt change in months10:26
dokocjwatson, how would I check this?10:26
cjwatsonnot sure10:27
zbenjaminogra_: ok...10:27
dokohmm, subst isn't documented?10:28
zbenjaminogra_: hm adbd is even running on the phone, but my adb devices list is always empty10:28
ogra_adb kill-server;; adb device10:29
ogra_try restarting the local server10:29
ogra_or re-plug the cable10:30
cjwatsondoko: IIRC it's specific to some KDE tools10:30
zbenjaminogra_: did not help, maybe i should reflash my device10:34
dokoRiddell, how do I enable this subst logic when calling dh_makeshlibs directly?10:36
Riddelldoko: we use these tools to update symbols files http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html10:37
mlankhorstppisati: can you grab the mesa packages from utopic, or is it important this bug is fixed in trusty?10:44
dokomlankhorst, updated llvm-3.5 to rc3. can you give it a try on i386 again?10:45
zbenjaminogra_: was there any change on the usb drivers? i had the device until now on a USB hub, that does not seem to work anymore10:46
mlankhorstdoko: ok10:47
ogra_zbenjamin, nope, no kernel related changes in the recent time10:47
ogra_(all devices work fine for me with 202 fwiw)10:48
zbenjaminogra_: ok then its on my hardware10:48
zbenjaminogra_: reattaching the whole hub worked, weird all other devices worked fine except the phone10:48
zbenjaminogra_: thx for helping10:49
ogra_well, do the other devices draw any power ?10:49
ogra_could be a power issue10:49
zbenjaminogra_: now its gone again10:49
mlankhorstdoko: was there a bug about the llvm error?10:49
ogra_since you are constantly charging over that port10:49
zbenjaminogra_: other devices are mouse and keyboard10:49
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ogra_right10:49
ogra_how is the battery level ?10:49
zbenjaminogra_: of the phone? 100%10:50
dokomlankhorst, I don't know, at least I didn't file one10:50
ogra_(and you should see reasons for the disconnect in syslog)10:50
mlankhorstok10:50
mlankhorstwell i remember the test, should be fine without bug10:50
zbenjaminogra_: thx, at least now i know where its coming from10:52
shnatselIs making a merge request against lp:ubuntu/lsb the right way to submit a patch to Ubuntu's lsb package? It's an Ubuntu-specific change.11:03
shnatselThe package is native, so it's just the changes in a branch and not a quilt patch in debian/patches11:03
cjwatsoninfinity: Can I steal your libpreludedb merge for Perl 5.20?11:06
cjwatsonxnox: Can I steal your openbabel merge for Perl 5.20?11:08
Saviqtvoss, hey, could you give a quick look at my assessment in the comments for bug #135925811:12
ubottubug 1359258 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/unity8:6:__gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler:__cxxabiv1::__terminate:std::terminate:__cxxabiv1::__cxa_throw:core::dbus::Bus::remove_match" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135925811:13
tvossSaviq, done11:19
ScottKcjwatson: No problem.  Your powerpc FTBFS fix was certainly harder than my no change rebuild.11:20
cjwatsonScottK: discovered after the fact that it was already fixed similarly in git, but there you go11:28
Saviqtvoss, thanks12:03
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mlankhorstdoko: it no longer fails with the same error, but I'm uncertain if it's really fixed12:25
junrreinHi Ubuntu people, I got a question. Is there a reason that the libglib2.0-bin (2.40) package in Trusty doesn't include the gapplication binary? (http://goo.gl/qYnmtu). It is a part of "official" (gnome) 2.40 release though. And is there a chance of an update to the Trusty package to include it? (I understand why it would not be reasonable)12:41
junrreinFor reference, the binary is included in the Utopic package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=utopic&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=gapplication)12:42
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mlankhorstdoko: ok I checked against the working version of my tests, they work correct..12:46
dokomlankhorst, nice!12:46
mlankhorstso I'll upload llvm 3.5 again, but I'll revert again if it fails for others. :P12:47
mlankhorstand add a explicit dependency on >= rc312:47
Laneymlankhorst: can you check the autopkgtest that failed before?12:48
mlankhorstLaney: yeah I did, the current version of my failing autopkgtest doesn't work at all either way, but reverting to the working version shows the expected results12:49
mlankhorstonline_accounts_ui right?12:49
Laneyubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts12:50
mlankhorstyeah12:50
mlankhorstthat one works for me now(TM)12:50
Laneygood luck12:50
* Laney lunch12:50
hallyndesrt: hey, just wondering, were you planning to in the next 2-3 weeks look at the systemd-shim AbandonScope/StopScope (or whatever htat one is called) implementation?  It's on my list, and will stay there, but I won't be able to work on it this week or next, so was curious if it was on your list at all.13:23
desrthallyn: i've never even heard of it :)13:26
hallynok :)13:27
hallynBasically on logout, either it asks for AbandonScope to simply remove the cgroup if empty, or something like StopScope to kill any tasks in the cgroup to force full logout13:27
hallynI'll just leave it on my list then - thx13:28
Esokratesslangasek: can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1359689?13:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1359689 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Undecided,New]13:36
roadmrhello! I tried to boot a 14.10 ISO under virtualbox, I get this corrupted display: http://people.canonical.com/~roadmr/utopic-vbox.png anyone else seen this?13:43
Esokratesroadmr: yeah, press host + f7 after that host +f113:44
roadmrEsokrates: awesome, that worked :) thanks13:45
caribouI'm working on bug #132142513:46
ubottubug 1321425 in irqbalance (Ubuntu) "irqbalance affinity_hint subset empty in /var/log/syslog" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132142513:46
caribouthis relates to another bug :13:46
cariboubug #132855613:46
ubottubug 1328556 in irqbalance (Ubuntu) "init/irqbalance should support $OPTIONS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132855613:46
caribouthe first bug is fixed by setting OPTIONS="--hintpolicy=ignore"13:47
cariboubut the second bug needs to be fixed for that13:47
cariboumy question is : should irqbalance be set to OPTIONS="--hintpolicy=ignore" as a default ?13:47
caribouor should this be configured by the user ?13:48
Esokratesroadmr: this happens as well for other utopic spins (kubuntu), so it has to be some generic component13:49
roadmrEsokrates: oh... interesting, I'll keep an eye on it. Not that I really know how to fix it :/13:55
Esokratesroadmr: maybe someone should open a bug report for that13:55
roadmrEsokrates: oh there's no bug report? I can open one for sure13:56
Esokratesroadmr: I do not know any bug report ... maybe there is one?13:56
roadmrEsokrates: hmm I looked at bug reports and didn't find any that apply.14:03
Esokratesroadmr: any idea which components fault it could be? x? or virtualbox itself? it has to be a combination though, since trusty works find in virtualbox14:06
roadmrEsokrates: yes... it would be interesting to try the utopic iso on e.g. kvm14:12
roadmrEsokrates: other than that, I'd start by filing the bug on X (or maybe even linux) and triaging from there. It can always be moved to another component/package14:13
Esokratesroadmr: yeah with kvm its a little different ... can't tell though since I am 1.) on an old kernel 2.) kvm outdated14:23
slangasekEsokrates: saw your bug report come in on this; but this is not the behavior I see in utopic14:40
slangasekEsokrates: so I don't have a reproducer for this here currently14:40
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Esokratesslangasek: that can't be ... how did you set up encryption?15:19
Esokratesslangasek: i tested this on various machines using various settings ... always reproducible15:19
Esokratesslangasek: even if i use the ubiquity predefined encryption scheme it is like that15:20
Esokratesslangasek: would you mind setting up utopic in a vm and see that it's really like that? I spend quite some time to be really sure this is reproducible15:22
Esokratesslangasek: I can definitely rule out that it's only me15:33
slangasekEsokrates: I have full-disk encryption with cryptsetup and plymouth on my laptop; the root fs is encrypted, so the prompting happens in the initramfs; this worked just fine the last time I rebooted, plymouth has not been changed in utopic since then.  And testing in a VM is not an indicator, VMs have terrible video drivers and there are all kinds of problems with plymouth on them.  Please run 'apport-collect 1359689' fro15:33
Esokratesslangasek: I have tested this on real setups ... the virtual machine was only for the screencast15:34
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Esokratesslangasek: maybe it's not plymouth alone, but other stuff that has been updated since then15:36
Esokratesslangasek: I can only assure you that currently it's broken which will annoy and confuse users15:36
shadeslayercjwatson: ping15:48
shadeslayercjwatson: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/casper/utopic/view/head:/scripts/casper-bottom/25configure_init#L31 < needs to take into account SDDM15:48
shadeslayerrm -f /root/etc/rc?.d/[SK]??[gksx]?ddm maybe?15:49
shadeslayeror well15:49
shadeslayerrm -f /root/etc/rc?.d/[SK]??[gksx]?[d]dm maybe?15:49
cjwatsonshadeslayer: I would just add another /root/etc/rc?.d/[SK]??sddm argument rather than trying to cram it all into a single wildcard15:50
shadeslayerokie15:50
shadeslayercjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8107219/15:53
cjwatsonshadeslayer: lgtm, will upload for you15:54
shadeslayer(Y)15:54
cjwatsondone15:56
cjwatsonUnit193,ochosi: tasksel finally updated, sorry for the delay16:03
Esokratesslangasek: how do we proceed? I think this is an serious issue, I have tested this on all real hardware I have at home and additionally in virtual machines, so I am absolutely sure. would you mind trying it on your own again? (install to some usb disk using that instruction: http://askubuntu.com/questions/293028/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-encrypted-with-luks-with-dual-boot)16:09
slangasekEsokrates: I asked you to run apport-collect, and you haven't done so.  I will look at it, but the fact that VMs are useless for plymouth troubleshooting due to VM-specific issues means that I have to be in a position to dedicate a piece of real hardware for testing, so it's going to be a while.16:11
Esokratesslangasek: oh sorry, yeah I will do the apport-collect16:12
slangasekEsokrates: thanks16:12
Laneymlankhorst: I think you typoed the Depends of libgl1-mesa-dri16:21
Laneylibllvm-3.5 → libllvm3.516:21
ochosicjwatson: thanks a bunch!16:34
mlankhorstoh..16:36
mlankhorstprobably *looks*16:37
Laneymlankhorst: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mesa ...16:37
mlankhorstthanks16:38
Laneynp16:38
Laneyplease could you retry gst-plugins-bad1.0 after this is fixed?16:38
mlankhorstiamnotacoredev16:38
Laneyit's in universe, but yeah, same difference for you IIRC :P16:39
Laneymight be on from the train anyway16:39
mlankhorstuploaded16:42
cjwatsonRiddell: how desperate are you for KDE to finish building on arm64/powerpc in the next couple of hours?  I really want to start copying in perl 5.20 before I have to finish for the day in preparation for travel tomorrow, but I'm waiting for a bunch of non-virt PPA builds; I could rescore them but KDE is the main thing I'd be queue-jumping16:55
cjwatsonIt looks like there aren't *that* many other builds left, but a lot of them must be long.  I have 151 pending builds out of 166 total in the farm, and the first of mine on arm64 is currently scheduled to start in 4 hours16:56
cjwatsonoh, maybe that's misleading, actually, I have some due to start in an hour16:57
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cjwatsonso maybe it's not a problem ...16:57
Esokratesslangasek: seems like apport-collect attatched useless information17:00
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bdmurraypitti: it looks like there are still issues with ddebs and main / universe - Failed to fetch http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/c/compiz/compiz-plugins-dbgsym_0.9.11+14.04.20140409-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb 404  Not Found17:10
slangasekEsokrates: mm, yes, this is definitely not the set of information I expect when running apport-collect against a bug on the plymouth package - the plymouth hook is supposed to populate a lot of hardware-related info (proc/cmdline, proc/fb...)17:10
Esokratesslangasek: i ran the command you advised me17:11
bdmurraypitti: Packages.gz lists it as in main but afaik its in universe17:11
slangasekEsokrates: ok.  it appears that the plymouth package in utopic is missing the apport hook, investigating17:12
Esokratesslangasek: ok, ping me when you have a solution/alternative17:13
slangasekxnox: ^^ you apparently removed the apport hook from the plymouth package, please put it back17:14
Esokratesslangasek: any way to add that hook without recompiling stuff?17:15
slangasekEsokrates: you can extract it from the source package and drop it into place at /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_plymouth.py17:16
Esokratesslangasek: which source package?17:16
slangasekthe plymouth source package17:16
Esokratesslangasek: when it is fixed you mean?17:17
Esokratesslangasek: or should I use the hook from an older package?17:18
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slangasekEsokrates: the hook hasn't changed; you asked how to add the hook without recompiling, that's how you do it - it's still in the source package17:19
Esokratesslangasek: why is the hook missing then in the binary package?17:20
Esokratesslangasek: where is the hook exactly in the source? which file?17:23
slangasekEsokrates: I'm sorry, I really don't have time to help with this right now17:29
Esokratesslangasek: no problem, can we talk another time about the root problem?17:29
slangasekwell, probably best to use the bug report for this, as I can't commit to a specific time :)17:30
Esokratesslangasek: (I hope in a few days the hook will be fixed by updates, then I will rerun the apport-collect)17:30
bdmurrayEsokrates: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/plymouth/trusty/view/head:/debian/libplymouth2.apport that's the code in the hook17:32
bdmurrayEsokrates: so just download it and put it where slangasek said17:32
Esokratesbdmurray: thanks a lot17:33
Esokratesslangasek, bdmurray: all done now, thanks a lot for your patience17:46
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infinitycjwatson: Steal away, if yuo didn't already.18:25
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ajalkaneCan anyone give me some indicators where to start off with fixing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hud/+bug/1165420 (Unable to access indicators from HUD)19:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1165420 in hud (Ubuntu) "Unable to access indicators from HUD" [High,Confirmed]19:29
Unit193cjwatson: Great!  Thank you very much.19:45
xnoxslangasek: yes i have, please explain why is it in the library package?19:53
xnoxslangasek: it cause uninstallability and all buildd chroots broke, cause libplymouthN conflicted with libplymouthN+1 yet both are needed to be installed during rebuild / binNMUs.19:53
xnoxslangasek: is it ok to place the hook in "plymouth" package rather than "libplymouthN+1" ?19:53
infinityxnox: Apport hooks in library packages (unless ABI versioned) definitely seems like a mistake.20:00
infinityThough, ABI versioning it would fix that mistake just as well as moving it to the plymouth package.20:00
xnoxinfinity: well the hook was "source_plymouth" or some such, and thus covers all binaries coming from src:plymouth, not just libplymouthN20:01
xnoxinfinity: i could just move it into the apport package =)20:01
infinityIck.20:02
xnoxor make them .deb metadata =)))20:02
infinityxnox: Which is effectively versioning it with the package name.20:03
infinityxnox: If you just install it with the library package name, that fixes the conflict.  Why complicate things?20:03
xnoxdoesn't cover everything that the hook used to do.20:04
infinityOh, you mean apport chooses what to trigger for based on the filename?20:05
xnoxe.g. $ ubuntu-bug plymouth, used to collect all plymouth data from that hook.20:05
infinityThat's unclever.20:05
xnoxyes.20:05
infinityIn that case, though, I guess moving it to the plymouth binary is the least of current evils.20:05
xnoxif it's named source_$srcname.py, it's triggered for all binaries from $srcname.20:05
labsinI'm having issues with the propertary ATI drivers and i386 apps. FI steam and the ubuntu-emulator20:12
labsinI get no HWA20:13
labsinIt seems to be a problem with the existance of both /usr/lib32/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2 and /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1.2.020:14
labsinthe first is from fglrx-updates and the second is from libgl1-mesa-glx:i38620:14
labsinIf I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib32/fglrx the issue is gone.20:15
labsinBut wat is a permanent solution. I can't seem to remove  libgl1-mesa-glx:i38620:17
labsinAnd if/where I should post a bug report20:18
infinitylabsin: Please file a bug on whatever package is providing the fglrx driver (assuming it's from Ubuntu, not upstream), and make tseliot aware of it.20:18
infinitylabsin: The proprietary driver packages are supposed to do clever/icky things to divert the mesa libGL out of the way, but maybe he missed a case.20:19
labsininfinity, ok20:20
mlankhorstooh mesa 10.3-rc1 released..20:26
tinocoplease, would anyone know arm64 repository location ?20:28
tinocoW: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-proposed/main/binary-arm64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]20:28
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tinoconm, http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/20:31
tinocotks20:31
mlankhorstinfinity: hey can i get a ffe for mesa 10.3-rc1 for next week? :P20:34
infinitymlankhorst: Ask me next week. :P20:35
mlankhorstI rather get some testign done first20:35
infinitymlankhorst: More seriously, what's upstream timetable for final release and point-releases?  Are we likely to have 10.3.1 by release?20:35
mlankhorstyeah20:36
infinitymlankhorst: Cause .0 releases from mesa are pretty... Raw.20:36
mlankhorstit's imrpvoed a lot lately20:36
infinityI'll believe that when I see it.20:36
infinityI'd still be more comfy with approving if I know we'll be able to get a .1 or .2 in.20:36
mlankhorst ]20:36
mlankhorstyeah I'll take a look, should be fine20:37
labsininfinity, filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/130746620:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1307466 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "nvidia-prime problems with steam" [Undecided,Invalid]20:40
labsinsorry https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/135996020:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1359960 in fglrx-installer-updates (Ubuntu) "i386 apps use wrong libGL" [Undecided,New]20:41
Sarvattmesa 10.3 final is september 5th, point releases are every 2 weeks after unless its an emergency and they go out faster, well in time for final freeze20:59
robert_ancellmterry, is the "surfaceflinger" seat type in lightdm still used anymore? I'd like to drop if it now21:21
robert_ancellnot21:21
mterryrobert_ancell, no it's not21:22
robert_ancellok, it's dead :)21:22
mterryrip21:22

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