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masterHey, if anyone's installed dragon naturally speaking on linux, how long does it typically take? I can't tell if playonlinux is hanging or not.04:12
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WizardHi06:43
lordievaderGood morning.07:01
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toriHi! I have a question - I'm on Kubuntu 14.04, and I have both plasma 4.5 and 5 (switchable from the login interface). When Plasma 5 is released, will the 4.5 session bu updated to 5 or the current 5 preview will be updated to a final version? Or maybe both?08:19
lordievadertori: Kubuntu will ship with KDE 4 for a while.08:20
Riddelllordievader: past, that's Plasma 4 :)08:22
lordievaderRiddell: Now you got me confused.. I thought it was KDE 4 and Plasma 5/KF5.08:25
Riddelllordievader: it was called KDE 4 when we released 4.0 but then it was rebranded so now KDE is the community and the desktop is Plasma 4 and the Applications are whatever they are08:26
lordievaderRiddell: Ah, I didn't get that memo. Thanks for clarifing that for me :)08:28
Riddellyou're not the only one08:31
lordievaderRiddell: I know. I did now Plasma5 was not called KDE5, but I didn't know of the rename of KDE4 to Plasma4. But it makes sense.08:32
kbrouliklordievader: there was a rebranding between 4.3 and 4.4. KDE is the Community. So saying KDE4 is like saying Microsoft 8. It's not Microsoft 8, it's Windows 8. Hence Plasma 4 :) (overly simplified)08:34
lordievaderkbroulik: Jup I get it now, thanks :)08:34
Riddelllordievader: ah but it's more complex than that, KDE 4.3 I think was the last release called KDE, then the releases are called KDE Software Compilation and they contained the plarform, plasma and applications08:34
Riddelland now they're due to be released separately so Software Compilation (SC) is going away and there's separate KDE Frameworks, Plasma and Applications releases08:35
RiddellI'm generally for this rebranding but the term SC is pretty inelegant and it lacks any common way to refer to KDE Software that uses Qt 4 or Qt 5 which would be handy to have08:36
lordievaderIsn't it true that KF4 uses Qt4 and KF5 uses Qt5?08:38
Riddelllordievader: KDELibs4 uses Qt 4, KF5 uses Qt 509:09
lordievaderHehe, another term...09:10
Riddellso I find myself talking about KDELibs4 land and KF5 land for any KDE Software that uses Qt 4 or Qt 509:10
Riddellwhich isn't very elegant09:10
lordievaderYeah, I bet.09:10
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BluesKajHi folks12:08
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Wizardjussi: kdenlive is fine.13:07
WizardUhh13:08
Wizardjubo2: ^13:08
jubo2Wizard: tnx. ( my question was what/which video editing I should 'sudo apt install' )13:19
WizardThat one.13:19
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WizardLet's say I have to format a pendrive.14:49
WizardHow?14:50
WizardWithout terminal magic?14:50
kbroulikWizard: KDE Partition manager14:50
kbroulik(dunno how usb-creator-kde does that, though, it prompts "authentication is required to format a storage device")14:51
kbroulikso maybe there's a simple too for that14:51
* Wizard takes jaw from the table.14:52
WizardIt failed.14:54
WizardThis is just beyond my imagination,.14:54
shadeslayerWizard: partition manager failed?14:57
WizardYup14:57
shadeslayerpastebin error?14:57
elmer_My pleasure strangers.15:43
elmer_Who are my peers?15:44
jubo2jubo-jubo ici15:46
jubo2I'm just a humble Kubuntu14 user15:46
elmer_Is anybody out there?15:46
lordievaderelmer_: See /names ;)15:46
jubo2elmer_: currently there are 254 users in this channel15:46
jubo2elmer_: do you have a support question? if not then there is #kubuntu-offtopic15:46
jubo2s'il vous plait15:48
elmer_I'd fix my wired connection (eth), but i guess the proper pacages are missing.15:49
lordievaderelmer_: What seems to be the problem?15:50
elmer_missig eth driver(s)15:50
lordievaderelmer_: That's hard to believe. What is the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 Network"?15:51
elmer_but I'm too lazy to read manuals :(15:51
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elmer_i've received>>2 unrelated info lines &! Kernel driver in use: wl15:56
elmer_*"Kernel driver in use: wl"15:56
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lordievaderelmer_: Please pastebin the full output.16:01
lordievader!paste | elmer_16:01
ubottuelmer_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:01
elmer_No problem. Thanks in advance. It will be alright.16:07
Wizardshadeslayer: kde partition manager told me that pendrive created from Kubuntu ISO has no valid partition scheme (which was an obvious lie). So I ordered it to create new scheme, create new ntfs partition, gave it a label and licked apply. It failed on step one.16:09
michaelHey16:10
WizardThan I clicked apply after any change and it worked, however this time I've chosen fat32.16:10
Wizardmichael: Hi.16:10
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Guest3385Whats goin on?16:10
WizardGuest3385: Seems "michael" is protected by NickServe ;]16:11
WizardHmm, another problem I'm having with Kubuntu 12.04 is the boot and KDE launch time.16:12
WizardIt takes about 30s to KDM, than about 35s to fire netbook-plasma.16:12
WizardUh, 14.0416:12
WizardSorry.16:12
BluesKajdougiel, gparted live-media , or installed on the hdd17:08
dougielgparted in installed/live on arch (antegros) mint 14.04 everything I try.17:09
BluesKajdougiel, gparted is problty looking for a file system like ext4 for example ..if you deleted the fs then the partition should be unallocated and if possible, try unmounting the partition17:12
dougielBluesKaj, my /home is /dev/sdb217:16
dougieland all the data is there.17:16
dougielBluesKaj, sec will boot my live 14.04 and report back here...17:20
BluesKajdougiel, perhaps a reinstall of 14.04 to / , then w17:21
BluesKajusing ubiquity manual partitioning set your /home mountpoint without formatting. but format /17:22
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Guest46702BluesKaj: same...17:26
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dougielBluesKaj: same...17:26
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BluesKajdougiel, perhaps a reinstall of 14.04 to / , then using ubiquity manual partitioning set your /home mountpoint without formatting. but format /17:32
jubo2I want to record texy Linux action18:15
jubo2that is to say I need a screen capture solution that I can use to record the 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade' processes and then use those as material in kdenlive18:16
bprompt!recordmydesktop | jubo218:17
bpromptjubo2:    http://cdn8.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/640x316xscreenshot_002.png.pagespeed.ic.9wyYaSO6zw.png18:20
jubo2From startpaging around I got 'sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop'18:21
jubo2that'd prlly be my poison of choice..18:22
jubo2bprompt: thanks for your response18:22
jubo2bprompt: don't we have dpkg bot service here ?18:22
bpromptI'd think ubottu  would have that, yes.... but could be under something else18:23
jubo2lestry..18:23
jubo2!tell jubo2 about xyz18:23
jubo2[21:24] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xyz18:24
jubo2seems at 1st glance same bot framework / implementation as dpkg is in .. uhh .. #debian I think..18:25
jubo2the gtk-RecordMyDesktop doesn't seem to be working rationally perceived18:29
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jubo2it doesn't give any key to stop recording ... the program window just dissappears and there is nowhere no icon to click to stop the "recording"18:30
jubo2my bad.. needed to right-click on the blank-symbols18:30
K`zanHi folks, how does one get rid of this damn wallet thing?18:43
jubo2K`zan: I don't think you do.. The wallet is used for storing your secrets ( passwords associated with usernames and such )18:48
jubo2or WiFi WPA2 shared secrets and such18:48
K`zanjubo2: That damn wallet is a horrid PITA, I guess my only option is to use another email program or change UIs, whoever stuck us with that crap, deserves to have to deal with it for every users that finds it a gross PITA :-).18:51
jubo2Pita.. kebab..?18:52
K`zanSigh, just the continuing progression to make kde totally useless, STILL not half the functionality of KDE3, sigh.  Been using KDE forever but it does look like time to find somethiing less obnoxious.18:52
K`zanTHanks anyway :-).18:52
jubo2the recordMyDesktop stopped saving files18:58
jubo2or the gtk- portion of it prlly18:58
jubo2so I reboot the system and hope it comes back18:59
jubo2what's the correct command to chain 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade' together so they are executed with single command line ?19:01
soee& ?19:02
jubo2so 'sudo apt update & sudo apt upgrade' ?19:03
jubo2I've used the ampersand only to tell a program to go to background right from start19:03
jubo2and '&&' for non-exclusive-or in some archaic lang19:04
gomiboyjubo2: I just joined, so i don't know what you are doing, but the command is 'apt-get' and not 'apt' and you should use && which in bash means "execute the second command only if the first succeeded"19:08
jubo2gomiboy: 'kdänks19:09
jubo2I'm coming from the Debian GNU/Linux part of the world and just recently learnt not to use aptitude on Kubuntu coz it may do freaky shit19:10
jubo2is there a way to run only a simulation of 'sudo apt-get upgrade'19:15
jubo2The recordMyDesktop seems flaky in the reliability of the "save file"-dialog19:16
jubo2I wouldn't want to miss the chance to capture the upgrade for the video we need to have done by Tuesday19:17
GatisFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.19:49
jubo2Amen Gatis19:49
GatisAAAAMEN!19:50
jubo2also Gatis I think you potentially gonna get the bannhammer if you push your own theistic groups views.19:51
jubo2I mean this is a #Kubuntu support channel, not spout your religious propaganda channel..19:53
Gatisjubo2, who cares :D19:54
jubo2Gatis: personally.. nice to know there are other belivers in the Lord out there19:54
jubo2Gatis: come hang in ##learnanylanguage .. everything is on-topic there19:55
Gatiswhat is that19:55
GatisOkay20:11
GatisLet's go to sleep20:11
GatisJesus can come whn we least expet20:11
* vexer harts kubuntu20:12
lap1hey20:38
SamwiseGamgeeI got this link from the ##hardware channel: they say it will solve my encryption problem, but will these command lines work with the new, 14.04 versions of ubuntu?  http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu/21:05
Unit193!libdvdcss21:05
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:05
genaerfthey21:09
genaerftI changed the board and CPU and RAM and now Grub refuses to boot. because of wrong uuids21:09
genaerftdo I need to correct the UUIDs? bklid shows no difference (via boot-repair)21:09
genaerfthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8116143/21:09
genaerftAny help is apprechiated21:11
genaerfti tried a lot, and I don't know why my system problem is so tough21:13
genaerftNow, after boot-repair, I enter into the busy-box... which isn't accessible via usb keyboard.21:16
genaerftso I want to use the live cd again to solve my problem, but I can't edit some boot config because its in the MBR21:16
BluesKajSamwiseGamgee, you can find libdvdcss2 at the vldeolan/vlc site21:18
SamwiseGamgeeis that the same as the abovve link I got from ubottu?21:19
SamwiseGamgeeOh yeah, it must be different, may be vlc has more up to date instructions21:20
BluesKajSamwiseGamgee, libdvdcss is no longer available at the ubuntu site afaik21:21
SamwiseGamgeeShould I install LibDVDcss before I install VLC Media Player, or should I install VLC Media Player first?  Keep in mind, I am not using Kubuntu, but xubuntu, but I am assuming it makes no difference, as they are both ubuntu 14.04 operating systems21:22
BluesKajgenaerft,  reinstall to / if you have a /home partition otherwise new hw usually requires a clean install21:22
genaerftBluesKaj: actually I wanted to do a fresh install.. on the new ssd, which isn't recognized...21:23
BluesKajSamwiseGamgee, it makes no diff afaik, but vlc then css is probly safest21:23
SamwiseGamgeethanks, BluesKaj21:23
genaerftBluesKaj: but is it really needed? 1 time booting worked, on the 2nd try without any changes21:24
BluesKajgenaerft, it's hard to predict with new HW21:25
genaerftI know, I need a new graphic driver, since the window manager looked 90s-ish21:26
BluesKajanyway it's been a long day ,,, and it's almost dinnertime21:27
BluesKajlaters21:27
genaerftthx21:31
genaerftchanging from AHCI to IDE helped -> it's booting again21:31
SamwiseGamgeeBon appetit BluesKaj21:32
SamwiseGamgeeIs it safe to install a program like DVDLibcss from a third party website?  I can't remember the last time I did that.  It must have been months ago.  The ubuntu operators always tell me to install any new software package from the Ubuntu Software Centre21:38
SamwiseGamgeeOr to install new software using the terminal command line.  I think the software package updates better that way, and may be it's safer?  Anyway, I forgot how to install new packages from a third party website.  I thought that is for Windows users and not Ubuntu users, right?21:41
orestishello, I have ubuntu unity 14.04 on my laptop and I want to change to kde, if I install kubuntu-desktop I will have the exact same apps and configuration as original Kubuntu. Some people suggest not to install a lot of different DEs because it will slow down your system is it true?21:43
Unit193SamwiseGamgee: http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html it's more up to you, but official channels generally don't support third party repos like this.  There's also a script in another package, but IMO it's not as good as it's not updated.21:43
SamwiseGamgeeIMO?21:44
SamwiseGamgeeI just want to know what is the safest and easiest way to install the most up-to-date version of VLC Media Player and DVDcss for Ubuntu 14.0421:46
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