[07:23] good morning desktopers [07:23] hey seb128 [07:23] hey robert_ancell [07:23] hey willcooke [07:24] bonjour seb128 [07:24] lut pitti, ça va bien ? [07:26] seb128: oui, merci -- mais j'attends avec impatience le weekend, pour que je peux dormir :) [07:26] pitti, moi c'est pareil ! [07:26] seb128, hello [07:26] robert_ancell, how are you? [07:26] seb128, good, yourself? [07:26] I'm good thanks [07:26] robert_ancell, what are you working on those days? ;-) [07:26] I hope you are all enjoying a beer at the present like I am :) [07:27] eww, beer in the morning! :-) [07:27] seb128, lightdm, mps, u-s-d [07:27] haha [07:27] friday evening for the lucky ones! [07:27] will cycle back to gtk-mir next week and see if I can make anymore headway on that [07:28] the utopic version works less nicely than the demo we had in Malta here [07:28] could be due to Mir [07:28] like I can't type in gedit [07:28] nor open menus [07:29] yeah, the goalposts might have moved [07:29] Malta was a pretty tuned hack [07:30] The things that bumped GTK support from the front of my queue are almost resolved, and the groundwork for it has already been merged. [07:31] Does anyone know if the session unlock issue is going to get a fix on the Desktop Next image any time soon? [07:31] So Mir might be more able to support GTK better in the not too distant future. [07:31] RAOF, yay! [07:31] willcooke, it should be fixed with https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/ you can opt in to try it [07:32] thx seb128 [07:32] RAOF, nice [07:32] robert_ancell, btw did you see that Laney had issues with your u-s-d/gnome-desktop changes? [07:32] seb128, yes, I've only started looking at them, hopefully will resolve early next week [07:32] I don't think they [07:33] 're a big problem, just some detail to track down [07:33] right [07:33] things is that ff was yesterday [07:34] but well, I guess we can get an exception for that landing [07:34] (the Ubuntu GNOME team really want the updated gnome-desktop in) [07:36] seb128, yeah, I figured it's not worth rushing [07:36] right, still might be good to put high on the todolist [07:36] first thing next wekk [07:36] week [07:36] thanks [07:39] seb128, anything else high prio? [07:39] not that I can think about, no [07:39] GTK Mir ;-) [07:39] seb128, oh, we can land the idle part of the u-s-d mp right? [07:40] I had a look at doing the process myself but we seemed to be in TRAINWRECK0 or something [07:42] ok, I give up. What changed in sshd config in Utopic? Why can't I just ssh in? [07:43] ssh in what? [07:43] I want to ssh in to my touchscreen laptop to add that ppa [07:43] robert_ancell, u-s-d, isn't that what laney had symbol conflict issues with? [07:43] willcooke, hum, unsure, the phone config stuff changes but desktop shouldn't [07:44] seb128, with the RandR stuff, but not the Idle stuff afaik. [07:44] Laney, confirm? [07:46] robert_ancell, saw https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-settings-daemon/xrandr/+merge/224548/comments/561618 ? [07:47] next comment as well on the same mr [07:47] seb128, ah, he's tried the other branch there I guess [07:47] hrm. I removed and re-added ssh, now it works. I'll try and recreate and open a bug [07:47] k [07:51] seb128, it works, it works, it works!!! Woohoo! [07:55] yeah \o/ [08:00] hey larsu - shall we have our weekly meeting? [08:00] willcooke: I was just about to write the same :) [08:00] :D [08:20] seb128, I will be in and out a bit today. I'm still coughing a lot and might go back to bed for a few hours [08:22] willcooke, ok, get better! [08:23] is that still the same cold since China? [08:23] or did you just got another one after getting over the first one?. [08:24] seb128, different one. I was getting over the China one on the last day there. Then I got home and my son had a cough, we took him to the Dr's and they said he had tonsillitis and not to let him cough on you. [08:24] but he's six [08:24] so he doesnt cover his mouth when he coughs [08:24] (despite me telling him to) [08:25] and now I have the same thing :( [08:25] is Google calendar down for anyone else? [08:25] :-( [08:25] calendar is working for me [08:25] popey, is Gcal working for you? [08:26] (assuming Laney is on the road) [08:26] (yeah, he should be) [08:34] willcooke: yes. [08:35] yes = broken popey ? [08:35] *broken, popey [08:36] eh [08:36] 09:25:57 < willcooke> popey, is Gcal working for you? [08:36] 09:34:40 < popey> willcooke: yes. [08:36] no, no, no, no, no.... yes. [08:36] :D [08:37] well darn. [08:37] why isnt it working for me [08:37] maybe some new cookies [08:37] Have you tried rebooting? [08:38] and now it works [08:38] clear cookies [08:39] popey, rebooting? it's not win95 here [08:39] \o/ [08:40] So, the Inspiron 3137 [08:40] I don't like the keyboard [08:40] and I don't like the glossy screen [08:40] but I *love* it [08:40] the laptop is really nice. Quite fast with an SSD, U8 works nicely [08:41] do they make touch screens which are not glossy? [08:41] good point [08:41] or does touch need to be glass that is glossy by definition? [08:41] it doesn't have to be, but they need more robust surfaces for touch [08:41] so they usually go with something glassy [08:41] also, most people prefer the look [08:42] do they have non glassy surfaces that work and are cheap enough? [08:42] you can get not glossy glass, e.g. in picture frames you can get non-reflective glass, but it costs $$$$$$$ [08:42] and is also witch craft [08:43] ah - they also use those for glasses, right? [08:43] ahh, yes - good point [08:47] seb128: it's a joke ☻ [08:48] (there is a UK situation comedy involving computer helpdesk workers who use 'have you tried rebooting' as their first suggestion every time) [08:48] popey, oh, the it crowd [08:48] didrocks showed me some episods [08:49] ;-) [08:50] * ochosi always wondered if an it girl was part of an it crowd [08:50] ☻ [08:51] :D [09:02] seb128, FYI Monday is a public holiday in the UK [09:02] willcooke, ok, enjoy it! [09:14] is there a capplet for fonts anymore? [09:14] font scaling in utopic seems regressed [09:18] or maybe the default font size just got bumped? [09:19] nothing should have changed, and no there is no capplet since GNOME3 === Trevinho|holiday is now known as Trevinho [09:21] i have a test system with a 3200x1800 panel, and with default scaling things look tiny [09:21] so I had it bumped to 1.5 so that dash icons are bigger and font readable [09:22] but now after upgrade the fonts got even bigger [09:22] weird, we didn't change much in the gnome and unity stacks [09:23] bregma might know about the issue [09:23] the capplet icon size didn't change, but the captions did so the text doesn't fit under the icon [09:24] but I guess those icons don't scale === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:42] tjaalton, that weird font scaling problem is caused by *something* setting the Large Text accessibility option when the Gnome text scaling factor is increased -- and we haven't identified the culprit yet [11:42] you can turn it off again in the control center then roll the dice the next time you start a new session [11:42] bregma, that something is likely the settings daemon [11:42] or unity [11:43] bregma: ah, ok [11:43] nothing else play with settings on session start [11:43] good to know [11:45] it's not Unity, but there's definitely a race during startup because sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes the text starts out OK and then suddenly jumps bigger [11:46] it's the last scaling bug we know about that hasn't been fixed yet === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === desrt is now known as desrt|pdx [14:04] cyphermox: bonjour! Verify this please? https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/utopic/urfkill/lp1357576-segv-formatstring/+merge/231897 [14:04] gladly [14:05] fail [14:05] I fail [14:06] cyphermox: I'm kind of alarmed the "hardening wrapper" bit didn't raise an compilation error at that. :\ [14:06] hehe [14:07] hardening-wrapper is something that needs to go from this package too; there are other ways [14:07] so, looks good; with the only exception that we could also just remove the patch [14:08] do you need me to sponsor it or can you upload it? [14:08] cyphermox: please sponsor. [14:10] np [14:29] qengho: I added the change for hardening; I'm uploading as soon as sbuild returns [14:29] ack. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch === Estilanda_ is now known as Estilanda === om26er is now known as om26er|dinner === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox === om26er|dinner is now known as om26er === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW === robru is now known as robru|lunch === mjohnson151 is now known as mjohnson15 === robru|lunch is now known as robru