[02:28] <IdleOne> !guidelines > Picky1004
[02:29] <IdleOne> already muted
[03:39] <PerfM> un
[03:39] <PerfM> ban
[03:39] <PerfM> me
[03:39] <PerfM> please
[03:39] <PerfM> I'll stop being an ass.
[03:39] <PerfM> scouts honor.
[03:45] <bazhang> PerfM, not at this time, no
[03:45] <PerfM> can I get someone else's opinion pls.
[03:45] <chu> PerfM: Not at this time, no.
[03:45] <PerfM> bazhang, your answer is biased cuz you hate me
[03:46] <PerfM> chu, your answer is biased cuz you dun knoe me.
[03:46] <chu> Well, there you go, good luck.
[03:49] <IdleOne> PerfM: I think that at this time we (the ops team) is going to go with, not at this time, no.
[03:50] <IdleOne> Please remember that we are bff's 4eva
[03:50] <PerfM> omg IdleOne.
[03:50] <PerfM> it's been 5eva
[03:50] <IdleOne> ikr
[03:50] <PerfM> IdleOne, how are you?
[03:51] <IdleOne> been doing pretty good actually
[03:51] <IdleOne> how bout you?
[03:51] <PerfM> IdleOne, about the same
[03:51] <IdleOne> Good to hear :)
[03:52] <IdleOne> Anyway ban(s) stay until someone from the IRCC decides they can be removed
[03:53] <PerfM> what is ircc and when does this someone come and remove bans
[03:54] <PerfM> for the record, I'd like to be ubanned from -offtopic. Not #ubuntu.
[03:54] <IdleOne> you can learn about them and also get contact info at..
[03:54] <IdleOne> !appeals
[03:54] <PerfM> appeals? are we in court
[03:54] <PerfM> do I need a lawyer.
[03:54] <chu> Probably.
[03:55] <PerfM> can't I just do some probation work
[03:55] <IdleOne> aww cmon. We've been to this rodeo before.
[03:55] <PerfM> you can put an ankle device on me
[03:55] <PerfM> but I don't actually know why I was banned this time.
[03:55] <PerfM> I think I just got banned yesterday
[03:55] <PerfM> and I didn't even do anything.
[03:56] <IdleOne> I'm not aware of why you got banned yesterday.
[03:56] <IdleOne> I'm sure there was a reason
[03:56] <IdleOne> you promise to follow the channel guidelines?
[03:57] <PerfM> ofc there's always a reason to why PerfM is banned.
[03:57] <IdleOne> I mean 4 realz
[03:57] <PerfM> I swear on my mother's grave.
[03:58] <IdleOne> I'm willing to give you a chance in -offtopic AGAIN, but I promise that if you make me regret it I will make it my life mission to make sure you never enter another ubuntu channel
[03:58] <PerfM> k
[03:58] <PerfM> I am both excited and scared and I don't know how this could be.
[03:58] <IdleOne> I have that effect
[03:59] <PerfM> can I just say one thing.
[03:59] <IdleOne> go ahead
[03:59] <PerfM> and I hope this doesn't change your decision to un ban me
[03:59] <PerfM> but you put up with SO MUCH of my shit, and I don't know why.
[03:59] <PerfM> like why?
[04:00] <PerfM> lol I'm so ruthless. I dun get it.
[04:00] <IdleOne> You remind me of a dimwitted puppy. Not as cute and not as dim, but funny all the same
[04:01] <IdleOne> there's a compliment in there somewhere
[04:01] <IdleOne> :)
[04:02] <IdleOne> Do you agree to follow the guidelines?
[04:02] <PerfM> hmmm
[04:02] <PerfM> yessir
[04:03] <IdleOne> ok you can rejoin
[04:03] <IdleOne> play nice, please.
[04:03] <IdleOne> and leave this channel after you have thanked me for my mercifulness and wisdom
[04:04] <PerfM> kk, solider boy.
[04:04] <PerfM> muchas gracias
[04:04] <IdleOne> de nada
[04:18] <Tm_T> huh
[04:25] <Beldar> would someone point out to expunge channel norms in help and support and offtopic
[04:28] <elky> wat.
[04:36] <Flannel> elky: expunge is a person
[04:38] <bazhang> aka 'reisio'
[04:39] <chu> That makes a lot more sense!
[04:46] <elky> Flannel: i was more referring to perfm getting unbanned from -ot
[10:00] <SamwiseGamgee> someone please look at the #lubuntu channel, and tell me if you agree that there is harassment going on there
[10:00] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: what's the problem now
[10:00] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I've just caught you telling lies in #lubuntu again - after 3 seperate warnings
[10:00] <ikonia> the cahnnel is publicly logged
[10:00] <ikonia> lubuntu is not for xubuntu support
[10:00] <ikonia> you've been told this 3 times before this occasions
[10:00] <SamwiseGamgee> I certainly hope so
[10:00] <ikonia> you've just told bare faced lies that you are using lbuntu
[10:00] <ikonia> lubuntu
[10:00] <SamwiseGamgee> this harassment needs to stop
[10:00] <ikonia> then when I asked you 2 show me the output of 1 command you admitted you where not using lubuntu
[10:01] <ikonia> this is not harassment - this is your behaviour
[10:01] <ikonia> before it appeared you where a lost user
[10:01] <ikonia> however now it appears you are just trying to troll cause a problem
[10:01] <SamwiseGamgee> I have never installed lubuntu and never used the lubuntu operating system
[10:01] <ikonia> apologies for being blunt, but that's how it looks like
[10:01] <ikonia> 10:49 < ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: are you using lubuntu
[10:01] <ikonia> 10:50 < SamwiseGamgee> yes
[10:01] <SamwiseGamgee> when did I type that?
[10:02] <ikonia> 10:51 < SamwiseGamgee> I am not using xubuntu
[10:02] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: you typed that 5 minutes ago in #lubuntu
[10:02] <ikonia> 10:52 < ikonia> sorry "sudo dpkg -l | grep lubuntu-desktop"
[10:02] <ikonia> 10:53 < SamwiseGamgee> I am not using lubuntu
[10:02] <ikonia> then less than 3 minutes later you admit you're not using lubuntu
[10:02] <ikonia> and now you say you never used it and you never said that
[10:02] <ikonia> I'm sorry but this is now clear you are just telling lies
[10:04] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: anything else ?
[10:04] <ikonia> or can we stop these silly time wasting games
[10:04] <SamwiseGamgee> that was a typo.....the letter x and the letter l are both ring finger keys....look at your keyboard
[10:04] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: nope, sorry
[10:04] <ikonia> lets stop playing these silly games
[10:04] <SamwiseGamgee> you never made typing mistakes when you are tired?
[10:05] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: this is the 4th time I've asked you not to post in #lubuntu for xubuntu problems
[10:05] <ikonia> you've said each time "ok I agree"
[10:05] <ikonia> so you're still doing it, even if that was a typo
[10:05] <SamwiseGamgee> Did you read my letters to the council?
[10:05] <ikonia> so it doesn't really matter you've had 3 other warnings
[10:05] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: it looks like IRC doesnt suit your way of communitcation that well. what about you try to get some help for your ubuntu issues at ubuntuforums or askubuntu.com?
[10:05] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I'm not interested in your letter to the council
[10:05] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I'm interested in you not using #lubuntu for xubuntu support
[10:06] <SamwiseGamgee> When my ban s are lifted, I will stop going to the #lubuntu channel
[10:06] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: no!
[10:07] <Tm_T> SamwiseGamgee: that's not how it works
[10:07] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: you are not showing the proper behaviour that would lead in your ban lifted, when you misuse other *ubuntu channels because you are banned in some of them
[10:08] <k1l_> like i suggested: use other support methods than IRC if you cant behave like its meant to be.
[10:08] <SamwiseGamgee> kll, look at the lubuntu room righ now
[10:08] <SamwiseGamgee> look at what ikonia wrote
[10:08] <ikonia> ?
[10:08] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: no! its enough that you lied to get xubuntu support on purpose in that channel because you are banned from other channels already for your behaviour
[10:09] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: dont blame others, its your behaviour so you need to take the consequences. try the already named other support communites in the meantime
[10:10] <SamwiseGamgee> I never lied. I kept trying to type xubuntu, not lubuntu.  Why do you not believe me when I keep telling you that I never installed lubuntu?
[10:10] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: you made the typo 2 times
[10:10] <ikonia> when l and x are on opposite sides of the keyboard
[10:10] <ikonia> lets not waste time with more lies
[10:11] <ikonia> it's just getting tedious now, probably best you just use the forums
[10:11] <SamwiseGamgee> sorry, I guess I'm the only human being to ever make a mistake on a keyboard
[10:11] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: no you're not
[10:11] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: however you where told not to use lubuntu for xubuntu support, so you know you're not using lubuntu as you've just said and ignored the previous 3 warnings
[10:11] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: again: you are just making everything worse at the moment. as a grwon up you should take responsibility for your actions and take the support issues to already named other support communities.
[10:11] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: so even if it was a typo, you still ignored the other 3 warnings knowingly
[10:11] <SamwiseGamgee> anyway, my ubuntu issue was never resolved in the lubuntu channel
[10:12] <ikonia> well it wasn't as no-one responded
[10:12] <ikonia> so not sure why you'd just randomly say that
[10:12] <ikonia> but never mind,
[10:12] <SamwiseGamgee> I wentinto the channel hoping to fix a DVD problem and I ended up getting harassed by an operator
[10:12] <ikonia> you didn't get harassed
[10:12] <ikonia> you told lies to the channel after 3 seperate warnings
[10:12] <SamwiseGamgee> look at the log, kll and tell me that is not harassment
[10:12] <ikonia> you got caught out by an operator
[10:12] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: stop now!
[10:12] <ikonia> for the 4th time
[10:13] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: its you and only you, who did wrong things in the first place. dont try to blame volunteers who react on your actions. its enough  now!
[10:13] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, yes, enough harassment for one night
[10:13] <k1l_> you are just going on with lies and actions against the guidelines. and yet you still try to play the innocent one.
[10:15] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: its just plain enough. take responsibiliy for your actions and dont talk about harassment when people tell you to follow the guidelines like all other user on irc do.
[10:15] <SamwiseGamgee> yes, I am guilty of typing the letter 'x" instead of the letter 'l' by mistake.  I am sorry.  I hope I don't get banned for that.
[10:15] <k1l_> SamwiseGamgee: that is just a lie!
[10:15] <k1l_> you came to the xubuntu channel because you are banned from other support channel already. so dont tell lies you accidently came there with a typo and just made that typo 3 more times.
[10:16] <SamwiseGamgee> the guys in the #hardware channel seemed more interested in helping me with my DVD problem
[10:16] <k1l_> if you dont have xubuntu you are just wrong with your lubuntu support issue in that channel in the first place. so dont blame us. you are just lying to evade the bans you already got for your behaviour
[10:17] <k1l_> so stop lying, stop ban evading. act to the guidelines and if you cant do that: see if the other support communities like askubuntu or ubuntuforums can help you.
[10:17] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, anyway, I'm sorry you could not help me with my DVD problem
[10:18] <k1l_> again: dont blame us for your actions
[10:19] <SamwiseGamgee> I'll just keep fixing things on my own until my bans are lifted, thanks for your concern
[10:25] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: sounds good, so that means you will stop using #lubuntu or incorrect channels for support
[10:25] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: now that this has been made clear to you a 5th time, please /part this channel and good luck solving your own issues
[10:25] <SamwiseGamgee> ok
[10:25] <ikonia> thanks
[10:26] <SamwiseGamgee> I will copy the text, then part
[10:26] <ikonia> the channel is logged
[10:26] <ikonia> as you've been told 11 times
[10:26] <ikonia> you can access the logs at your leasure
[10:26] <ikonia> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[10:27] <SamwiseGamgee> Read my letter to council as to why I stopped trying to access the logs.  copying and pasting is easier and faster
[10:27] <ikonia> please part the channel and use the logs, that way they are known to be good and not contain any more accidental typos
[10:27] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: no, sorry
[10:27] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: use the logs
[10:27] <ikonia> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/08/22/%23ubuntu-ops.html
[10:28] <ikonia> there is a direct link to this channel
[10:28] <ikonia> here is a direct link to #lubuntu
[10:28] <ikonia> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/08/22/%23lubuntu.html
[10:28] <ikonia> as I suspect you'll want to quote them both
[10:28] <ikonia> that should help you.
[10:28] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks
[10:28] <ikonia> so you can /part the channel now
[10:29] <SamwiseGamgee> yep, same problems as last time
[10:29] <ikonia> there is no problem
[10:30] <SamwiseGamgee> with the logs
[10:30] <ikonia> there is no problem with the logs
[10:49] <SamuraiRM> per uscire dal ban?
[10:49] <ikonia> I suggest you talk to the #ubuntu-it operators
[10:50] <ikonia>  /join #ubuntu-it-ops
[10:52] <k1l_> SamuraiRM: you are banned from #ubuntu too since that behaviour is not acceptable: http://pastebin.com/TiTeQMp5
[10:52] <SamuraiRM> tk
[10:53] <k1l_> SamuraiRM: i suggest you talk to the #ubuntu-it ops to see if that ban could be resolved
[10:53] <SamuraiRM> but it is not my fault the up arrow key
[10:53] <ikonia> the up arrow key doesn't type "Fuck you"
[10:54] <ikonia> on many occasions
[10:54] <ikonia> just talk to the -it operators and get it sorted, it will be better than using the english channels
[10:54] <k1l_> SamuraiRM: there is in no way an excuse for that behaviour.
[10:54] <SamuraiRM> but
[10:56] <SamuraiRM> I had a person come in pvt and I wrote him f ... y
[10:56] <ikonia> you've done it multiple times
[10:56] <ikonia> not just once
[10:56] <SamuraiRM> after
[10:56] <ikonia> so lets not mess around
[10:56] <ikonia> talk to the #ubuntu-it operators
[10:56] <ikonia> resolve your ban for #ubuntu-it
[15:32] <SamwiseGamgee> I just sent my third letter and fourth email to ubuntu IRC council, since the bans on August 12.  Thank you for your responses to my emails.  The emails I have received from the Council is the only evidence of progress since the bans.
[15:33] <IdleOne> you don't need to keep updating us. As far as the ops in this channel are concerned the issue is in the hands of the council.
[15:33] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, I trust the wisdom of the council.  Thank you.
[18:08] <IntelAtom> !ops
[18:08] <IntelAtom> noooooooooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:58] <DJones> Heads up on gatis just given a 7 day ban for going offtopic (based on past history of offtopicness and knowing channel guidelines) Also in kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu also been given a 7 day ban in #linux by that channels ops
[19:59] <Unit193> @duration 63700 1w
[20:38] <intelceleron> !ops
[20:39] <IdleOne> having fun?
[20:40] <intelceleron> unless ye repent ye shall all likewise perish
[20:40] <IdleOne> We will all perish anyway
[20:40] <intelceleron> no
[20:40] <intelceleron> some go to heaven most go to hell
[20:41] <IdleOne> This is hell
[20:42] <intelceleron> no this is lost persons heaven
[20:43] <IdleOne> well then why do I need to repent if I am already in heaven?
[20:43] <intelceleron> i take it you dont believe god
[20:43] <intelceleron> you should know he hardens hearts so people wont believe
[20:43] <intelceleron> see romans 9:16-18
[20:43] <Unit193> Pretty sure you don't either, bub. :P
[20:43] <rww> intelceleron: So it's his fault I'm going to hell for not believing?
[20:43] <IdleOne> you should know he also fools people into believing they are doing Gods work when in reality all they are doing is perpetuating evil
[20:44] <intelceleron> rww: he has mercy on whom he wants and he hardens who he wants
[20:44] <intelceleron> he is completely soverign
[20:44] <IdleOne> not in this channel he ain't
[20:44] <intelceleron> he has predestined every single person to heaven or hell according to his pleausre and purpose
[20:44] <intelceleron> IdleOne: you cant handal the truth
[20:45] <intelceleron> see romans 9:11-23 for the gospel of predestination
[20:45] <intelceleron> he has vessels of wrath those who are predestined to hell and he suffers long with them
[20:45] <DJones> What if we're all Nac Mac Feegles? We're already in the afterlife, we can't be killedbecause we're already dead
[20:46] <IdleOne> So if we are all predestined to heaven or hell, why should we bother repenting?
[20:46] <IdleOne> I think we broke the flux capacitor
[20:46] <valorie> Handal wrote some great music
[22:40] <netsjanek> hi
[22:41] <netsjanek> why liwa is banned
[22:41] <netsjanek> litwa
[22:42] <IdleOne> I don't see no ban on them
[22:43] <netsjanek> ok
[22:43] <IdleOne> anything else?
[22:47] <netsjanek> now is ok
[22:47] <netsjanek> thanks