[02:37] <user123321> What do you call a collection of paraller load balancers?
[02:37] <user123321> parallel*
[02:43] <Ham62> hi
[02:44] <Ham62> I need help setting up my server
[02:44] <Ham62> I've been having problems with getting it to work and I don't know what I'm doing wrong
[02:45] <Ham62> could any of you help me with this?
[02:47] <Ham62> I have a screenshot to show you what I've had trouble with
[02:47] <Ham62> http://i.imgur.com/qd57rSr.gif
[02:48] <Ham62> sorry if I typed that wrong, had to switch too a new client after the channel crashed my old ole
[02:48] <Ham62> to*
[02:48] <Ham62> old one*
[02:49] <Ham62> after I restarted my server I couldn't get nginx to launch again
[02:50] <Ham62> anyone have a idea as to how I could fix this?
[02:51] <Abhijit> Ham62, whats the actuall error you get? do you mean cron is failing to start nginx or you manually do servire nginx start and it fails?
[02:51] <Ham62> it's not loading
[02:52] <Ham62> after I type the loading command it doesn't do anything
[02:52] <Ham62> it just sits there and when I check the status it says it hasn't started
[02:53] <Ham62> It gives no actuall error itself
[02:53] <Ham62> I have the server beside my now if you need me to check something
[02:54] <Ham62> I've got a keyboard and LCD monitor plugged in because my Win98 system crashed trying to connect to the channel
[02:54] <Ham62> so I moved to my Win2000 laptop beside the server
[04:20] <apb1963>   i'm having problems connecting over wireless.  At the moment, I'm using wicd.  It seems to get stuck on "Verifying AP association...".   Without wicd I can get the connection up and ping the Net - but if I take eth0 down, my wireless goes away too.  wicd is the only way I can bring eth0 back (which is the main reason I'm using it).
[04:23] <apb1963> I asked in #ubuntu and #networking, so far no response...  Been googling for 2 days straight.
[04:37] <sarnold> apb1963: maybe askubuntu.com? be sure to include details like how you bring eth0 down and log entries..
[04:38] <apb1963> hmm
[05:18] <apb1963> sarnold: I broke askubuntu.com :/
[05:18] <sarnold> apb1963: achievement unlocked!
[05:19] <apb1963> lol
[05:20] <sarnold> apb1963: which question is yours? I don't spot it on the list..
[05:20] <apb1963> I can't enter one
[05:21] <sarnold> oh?
[05:21] <apb1963> It says "Welcome back .... You've been logged in.  You are being redirected"... and it keeps recycling that, over and over.
[05:21] <sarnold> apb1963: wow :)
[05:21] <apb1963> So I can't ever get to the asking questions part
[05:22] <sarnold> apb1963: try visiting one of the other sites in the network, e.g. stackoverflow.com, maybe that'll poke it in the eye
[05:22] <apb1963> yeah... I'm an over-achiever
[05:22] <apb1963> sure, why not
[05:22] <abhishek> hello I want do multipath partitioning . I have installed all packages but fdisk -l is displaying multiple disks what can I do now
[05:25] <apb1963> sarnold: Yo're going to like this:  http://picpaste.com/askubuntu-53rhze6M.png
[05:25] <sarnold> abhishek: seen this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/dm-multipath-chapter.html
[05:25] <sarnold> apb1963: wow!
[05:25] <abhishek> oh yes !! I have read and following this guide only
[05:28] <sarnold> apb1963: hrm I can't get openssl s_client nor my firefox to break..
[05:28] <apb1963> sarnold: i'm speshul
[05:29] <sarnold> apb1963: yes :)
[05:30] <sarnold> apb1963: ha, what are you doing to -my- computer? I started chrome to see if it could fail too, and I've got sixteen little thumbnails of the "New tab" and start of the titlebar...
[05:30] <apb1963> sarnold: lol  I'm contagious
[05:33] <apb1963> why do all the "forgot password" links always ask you for the email address?  It knows the email address I just tried to use, why can't it pre-fill it for me?
[05:33] <sarnold> don't get me started on web login forms..
[05:33] <cfhowlett> apb1963, autofill is a security leak
[05:34] <apb1963> cfhowlett: feeding me back what I just typed in is a security leak?
[05:35] <sarnold> apb1963: obviously you can't be trusted -- look what happens!
[05:35] <apb1963> sarnold: no doubt
[05:40] <apb1963> i hate stackexchange
[05:40] <apb1963> passionately
[05:41] <apb1963> may it die a horrible death
[05:44] <Abhijit> oh. yay. me too. but why do you apb1963 ?
[05:44] <apb1963> Abhijit: I could go on for... 10 minutes.
[05:44] <Abhijit> use pastebin?
[05:44] <apb1963> nah
[05:45] <apb1963> what would be the point?
[05:45] <apb1963> the guys that built it think it's wonderful
[05:45] <apb1963> it won't change.
[05:45] <Abhijit> then write a blog post?
[05:45] <apb1963> so I'll get.. what... 3 hits?
[05:45] <sarnold> if you could log in you could write little complaints on meta.stackexchange.com and get votes!
[05:46] <Abhijit> you mean get down votes.
[05:46] <apb1963> will I get to be president?
[05:46] <Abhijit> of?
[05:46] <apb1963> yeah, down votes is more like it.
[05:46] <sarnold> -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 CLOSED! haha
[05:46] <apb1963> My freakin' questions get down voted.  As if I'm wrong for asking for help!
[05:48] <apb1963> The so called "moderators" arbitrarily close out questions that have over 50,000 hits because "it doesn't fit" or whatever.
[05:48] <apb1963> People with wrong answers get more votes than people with right answers because the wrong answers came first.  It's sheer stupidity.
[05:49] <Abhijit> what happend to #ubuntu-server ? today so much traffic here? else no one even to help ?
[05:49] <apb1963> And so on.
[05:49] <apb1963> all of irc has been fairly dead
[05:50] <Abhijit> then where to go?
[05:50] <sarnold> usenet in 1995! it had all the answers..
[05:50] <apb1963> I miss usenet
[05:50] <Abhijit> !
[05:51] <apb1963> I miss public access sites and bbs'
[05:51] <apb1963> I almost miss modems :)
[05:52] <apb1963> I was going through (and shredding) some old  papers recently and I found some with uucp addresses
[05:52] <sarnold> oh man
[05:52] <apb1963> You know I met Jon Postel?  Shook his hand.
[05:53] <sarnold> sweet :D
[05:53] <apb1963> almost worked for his colleague
[05:53] <apb1963> they weren't paying enough :)
[05:53] <sarnold> I got some help from ian lance taylor when setting up a taylor uucp <-> honey dan ber uucp system..
[05:53] <apb1963> cool
[05:54] <apb1963> I remember setting that up
[05:54] <sarnold> crazy to run into him in modern times still, hah
[05:54] <Abhijit> .... and who are those ?
[05:54] <apb1963> Neil Rickert held my MX record
[05:54] <sarnold> Abhijit: ian lance taylor wrote one of the two major uucp packages, taylor uucp
[05:54] <Abhijit> ok
[05:54] <Abhijit> you two seems some old guys!
[05:55] <sarnold> jon postel put together the half of the internet that vint cerf didn't put together :)
[05:55] <apb1963> he was the father of TCP/IP
[05:55] <Abhijit> ok
[05:56] <apb1963> Neil Rickert wrote the book on sendmail (literally).  Along with Eric Allman (the developer).
[05:56] <sarnold> apb1963: haha, nice :)
[05:56] <apb1963> he's still a professor at NWU
[05:56] <apb1963> nice guy
[05:57] <apb1963> sadly, Jon Postel died quite a few years ago.
[05:57] <apb1963> I got to name two of the the cities in the .us domain
[05:58] <apb1963> they didn't yet exist, so they gave me the choice of what to name them.
[05:58] <sarnold> :D
[05:58] <apb1963> those were the days
[06:02] <apb1963> so I can't even reset my password on stackexchange.
[06:02] <apb1963> I think it's time to crumble some cookies.
[06:03] <sarnold> things were easy there until they rolled out some oauth crazyness.
[06:05] <apb1963> hey, that worked :)
[06:05] <apb1963> now I have another account on a related stackexchange site
[06:06] <apb1963> yay for zillions of accounts I didn't want in the first place.
[06:08] <sarnold> "life is remembering 90 different log-in IDs and passwords then you die" https://twitter.com/ch000ch/status/501190628865482752
[06:13] <apb1963> well, it's definitely stackauth that's going nuts....  I can't seem to make it stop. Clearing the cache didn't help
[06:14] <apb1963> sarnold: I use keepass  works fine... just irritating to have to depend on something like that.
[06:20] <apb1963> Finally
[06:20] <apb1963> stomped on the stackexchange cookie
[06:20] <apb1963> ground it into dust
[06:20] <apb1963> now if i could only remember my question :/
[06:27] <sarnold> apb1963: some kind of wifi problem with eth0. heh.
[06:27] <apb1963> yeah, typing it up ow
[06:27] <apb1963> now
[06:28] <apb1963> thanks :)
[06:58] <user123321> Could someone give me an idea to easilly measure the downtime of an Ubuntu server?
[06:58] <user123321> I'd just like to measure the time taken for an HAProxy to switch the server in case of a failure.
[07:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:02] <lordievader> user123321: Check the syslogs and subtract?
[10:28] <sfix> anyone ran into this with a fresh MySQL install on 14.04: [ERROR] Function 'innodb' already exists ?
[10:37] <MrPPS> not for me sfix
[10:37] <MrPPS> though I've seen it working through inndob stuff when freshly installing it
[10:37] <MrPPS> that's about it
[13:29] <hey_joe_> question. I am using vhost_alias for home folder site by subdomain.  everything works fine.  however users can also view and list other users /home folders.  what is the best permission set to use on the /home/user/ and /home/user/html folders, so that each user cannot cd into another's home, list files, etc.  BUT, still allow apache2 to serve up the pages with out the "Forbidden" issue?
[13:56] <bitfury> good morning all
[14:12] <SCHAAP137> good afternoon
[14:54] <linuxboobiz> hello.
[14:55] <linuxboobiz> i have setup a new server and installed xrdp. however when i try to connect to it i get a grey screen as notmal users. xfce4 works when i am using root. but not for my normal user. i tried adding a new file called x.session to my home dir and put xfce4-session in it.. but it doesnt work.
[14:55] <linuxboobiz> how do i fix this ??
[14:56] <linuxboobiz> *.xsession
[14:56] <linuxboobiz> im using ubuntu 14.04
[14:57] <linuxboobiz> google dosent make me smarter either
[14:58] <streulma> hello I just created a vps and my /var/cache and /tmp directory are missing
[14:58] <streulma> can I rebuild it ?
[15:29] <Blackthorn> Hi, i currently run citrix xen server 6.2.0 with server windows 2003 servers on each machine.  For finical reasons and to increase the speed of dns look up's and website delivery I'm wanting to replace them with ubuntu server edition.
[15:30] <Blackthorn> do you know if the server edition will run on xen server 6.2.0 and how secure is it after a fresh install?
[15:45] <jacobw> Blackthorn: You can run Ubuntu in any kind of OS virtualisation environment, you see the known vulnerabilities in 14.04 (LTS, 'trusty') here, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/trusty/
[15:46] <jacobw> !security
[15:49] <Blackthorn> thank you for the likns
[15:50] <dav1dp0101> Does anyone have any experience setting up JACK audio connection kit on ubuntu-server? I'm not getting any sound through playback or capture at the moment. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
[17:07] <Blackthorn> when i'm installing the server package it prompts me if i want to install packages. i selected dns, and openssh, one selection though is "basic ubuntu server" what is that?
[17:15] <SCHAAP137> Blackthorn, i think that is just the install base that is needed by default
[17:15] <SCHAAP137> would be surprised if u could unselect it
[17:15] <SCHAAP137> maybe someone else can verify this?
[17:26] <Blackthorn> it actually wasn't selected
[18:49] <apb1963> sarnold: http://askubuntu.com/questions/514555/ubuntu-12-04-wifi-not-working  According to the respondant's profile, he's 15 and has been using Linux since 2001.  Is my math off, or was he 2 years old when he first started using Linux?
[18:50] <sarnold> apb1963: you got the dougie houser of linux!
[18:51] <apb1963> yeah, and one that  didn't even answer the question... just some general "clean this up" "advice".
[18:52] <apb1963> Have I told you how much I hate stackexchange?
[18:52] <sarnold> yeah, for about ten minutes :D
[18:53] <apb1963> It forces you to do extra, unnecessary work.
[18:53] <apb1963> Oh, so I gave you the abbreviated version then?
[18:54] <apb1963> Oh well, I shouldn't complain about free & people that are just trying to make the world a better place.  I apologize to them for ranting.
[18:56] <sarnold> apb1963: I think you're going to have trouble with both eth0 and wlan0 in the same network and up at the same time
[18:57] <apb1963> so ubuntu can't handle two interfaces at once?
[18:58] <apb1963> actually if you read it carefully, you'll see that it ONLY worked WITH two interfaces... removing the eth0 interface made it fall down.
[18:59] <apb1963> ubuntu (linux?) networking is a mess.  I explored various incarnations of up, down, add, delete, etc. and the results were... unexpected to put it nicely.
[19:00] <sarnold> apb1963: more that the routing tables don't take kindly to it. if you had two different networks on wired vs wireless, you'd put a gateway on one of them only, and be done with it. but you've got gateways on both..
[19:03] <apb1963> I'm not sure I quite understand... but if in fact I had two different networks, it seems to me that I would HAVE to have a gateway for each - not a default gateway mind you... there can only be one default... perhaps that's what you're saying?
[19:05] <sarnold> apb1963: with ethernet, you normally configure routing rules for your NIC that know how to reach the whole network; there's no need for a gateway unless you want to use that network to route your packets to the rest of the internet..
[19:06] <apb1963> even so... if i take down the eth0 interface (and provided the routing table is cleaned up properly - which appears to be an area that needs work) then all packets should route through the wireless... yet NONE do so, which is the problem.  Remove eth0 and wlan0 falls down.
[19:07] <apb1963> well, I would say there's a need for a gateway - if you have a need to route packets elsewhere for whatever reason.  Since I have just a miniscule network, I have no such reason.
[19:08] <sarnold> apb1963: the tools probably assume that you've configured your networks differently
[19:09] <apb1963> you're probably right.  So, with that said... how the heck do I get this working?
[19:09] <apb1963> with both interfaces up, I can ping the Net through the wlan0 interface.  As soon as I remove eth0, wlan0 stops working.
[19:10] <sarnold> you don't want both nics up at once
[19:10] <apb1963> As soon as I remove eth0, wlan0 stops working.
[19:10] <sarnold> I don't know wicd at all, but it sounds like it fights against the /etc/network/interfaces method, if our friend chili555 is right
[19:11] <sarnold> oh yikes
[19:11] <sarnold>  I shld have actually looked into what wicd does last night.
[19:11] <sarnold> yeah, either stop using wicd or stop using /etc/network/interfaces :) your choice, hehe
[19:11] <apb1963> Maybe, maybe not.  I watched it's log and it appears to simply use the various tools available... running scripts, using ifconfig and whatnot
[19:12] <apb1963> I already stopped using wicd....
[19:12] <sarnold> purged and all?
[19:12] <apb1963> at the 15 year old's suggestion.
[19:12] <apb1963> not purged... just, stopped.
[19:12] <apb1963> it's not running
[19:12] <sarnold> it might have left tendrils elsewhere, purging might make sense
[19:13] <apb1963> you're right.  It's got tendrils running.
[19:13] <apb1963> Package wicd is not installed, so not removed
[19:13] <apb1963> it's hiding
[19:14] <apb1963> apt-get purge wicd-daemon
[19:14] <apb1963> you know wicd is pronounced wicked right?
[19:15] <sarnold> oh man. says it all.
[19:15] <apb1963> ok, it's purged
[19:16] <apb1963> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) from 192.168.0.12 wlan0: 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:16] <apb1963> From 192.168.0.12 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[19:16] <sarnold> does iwconfig show it associated with the AP and so forth?
[19:17] <apb1963> yes
[19:19] <apb1963> ifdown wlan0
[19:19] <apb1963> ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[19:19] <apb1963> ifup wlan0
[19:19] <apb1963> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:19] <apb1963> Failed to bring up wlan0.
[19:19] <apb1963> and now it's unassociated
[19:19] <sarnold> ifup and ifdown are annoying creatures; if you change your /etc/network/interfaces file you can sometimes lodge them in unhappy. reboots are often the easiest way to bring things to normal with those goofy tools.
[19:20] <apb1963> well, what I've been doing is clearing out all the tables
[19:20] <apb1963> ifconfig down <each interface>
[19:21] <apb1963> followed by deleting any leftover routes
[19:21] <apb1963> when I get no response to ifconfig, I add back the devices starting with lo
[19:22] <apb1963> for some reason, adding back lo also adds back eth0.... even though it's commented out of /etc/network/interfaces
[19:22] <apb1963> that's ifconfig lo
[19:22] <apb1963> up
[19:23] <apb1963> but yeah, it's true I haven't tried rebooting with just wireless configured.  I suppose I should try that... I just don't like rebooting.
[19:24] <sarnold> apb1963: ifconfig lo  adds in eth0? o_O
[19:24] <apb1963> weird huh?
[19:24] <apb1963> try it :)
[19:24] <apb1963> I'll repeat... networking is a mess.
[19:25] <apb1963> I forget what sequence of incantations make it fail to add a default gateway.. but it doesn't seem too hard to recreate.
[19:25] <qman__> You probably have network-manager or some similar daemon screwing with your interfaces
[19:26] <apb1963> nope
[19:26] <apb1963> I purged network-manager awhile ago
[19:26] <apb1963> although, I will happily attempt to purge it again and if you can think of other daemons that might be playing with me..... feel free to mention it.
[19:27] <apb1963> Package network-manager is not installed, so not removed
[19:27] <apb1963> oh I remember cursing at avahi awhile back... I think that's still here.
[19:33] <apb1963> what tool and options will let me search for "*avahi*" and return those packages that match and are installed on my system?
[19:39] <qman__> apb1963: dpkg -l | grep avahi
[19:40] <apb1963> thank you
[19:40] <apb1963> apparently I have lots of avahi tendrils
[19:41] <qman__> apb1963: any that start with ii are installed, rc are removed but configuration remains (was not purged)
[19:43] <apb1963> thanks for that.  I appear to have a mixture.  The daemons are rc, but the libs are ii.
[19:45] <qman__> Libraries don't do anything on their own and are fine
[19:50] <apb1963> trying to think of any other network daemons I might have either installed or that came in on the underground railroad
[22:17] <ldelarosa> Hey guys I need a iptable rule to let all traffic jump from internal interface to external.