[00:22] <Wellark> thelionroars: that is a known bug. but thank you for reporting :)
[00:26] <Wellark> pmcgowan: I think I have the APN editor problem pretty much figured out
[00:28] <Wellark> pmcgowan: bottom line: with MeeGo.Ofono you don't want to be creating and destroying it's objects unless absolutely necessary
[00:28] <thelionroars> I really need to develop some bug-reporting-fu...
[00:28] <Wellark> creating an object generates a lot of traffic
[00:28] <Wellark> and second point: if you use Component.createObject(), you better remember to call destroy() at some point as well :)
[00:33] <Wellark> pmcgowan: and I figured out the reason why we see the interesting dbus-traffic pattern each time a OfonoConnectionContext is created
[00:33] <Wellark> the code in ConnectionContext does
[00:33] <Wellark>         QOfonoManager manager;
[00:33] <Wellark>         if (manager.modems().count() > 0) {
[00:33] <Wellark>             QOfonoConnectionManager connManager;
[00:33] <Wellark>             Q_FOREACH (const QString &path, manager.modems()) {
[00:33] <Wellark>                 connManager.setModemPath(path);
[00:33] <Wellark>                 if (connManager.contexts().contains(idPath)) {
[00:33] <Wellark>                     d_ptr->modemPath = path;
[00:33] <Wellark>                     Q_EMIT modemPathChanged(path);
[00:33] <Wellark>                     break;
[00:33] <Wellark>                 }
[00:33] <Wellark>             }
[00:34] <Wellark>         }
[00:34] <Wellark> that's quite a lot of dbus-traffic right there
[00:34] <Wellark> not too much if you are careful not to create any excess ConnectionContext objects
[00:35] <Wellark> but still, more than I would bargain for
[00:35] <Wellark> oh, well.
[00:35] <Wellark> I consider this nut cracked
[00:41] <Wellark> oh, look. it's not even 4am yet...
[01:59] <pmcgowan> thanks Wellark
[02:00] <Wellark> pmcgowan: np. :)
[06:39] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <dholbach> do we have a bug for a 12/24h toggle on the phone?
[07:13] <dholbach> is 1157689 and 1236288 all we have?
[07:24] <pitti> sil2100: I'd like to land two more langpack branches, so that langpacks become effective; is that ok with you?
[07:26] <pitti> sil2100: then only two remain; unity8 is already included in another request, and messaging-app is blocked by a built, but not yet published landing
[07:30] <pitti> ah meh, so is telephony-service
[07:32] <sil2100> pitti: sure :)
[07:32] <pitti> sil2100: so I could only land one branch; if the other landings get flushed soon, I'd rather wait a bit
[07:33] <pitti> now we have to go through the extra hassle of landing twice (RTM) anyway
[07:37] <dholbach> ok, I filed 1360099
[07:37] <dholbach> I'll see if I find other places
[07:46] <dholbach> popey, do I need to tag bug 1360099 in a certain way?
[07:47] <popey> dholbach: i doubt notes app will be fixed, but I guess messaging might.
[07:47] <dholbach> yeah, it's a bit confusing
[07:48] <popey> dholbach: I'd ask jibel. i dont know what tags the QA guys are using today
[07:48] <ogra_> popey, we should finally remove it from the image though
[07:49] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-22-084933.png
[07:49] <popey> that ubuntu logo looks out of place
[07:50] <ogra_> oh, where does that come from ?
[07:51] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1350610  from design
[07:54] <ogra_> heh, would really be nice if people linked the designs they refer to
[07:57] <popey> but they do that and link to private docs ☹
[07:58] <ogra_> bah, k
[09:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Hug Your Boss Day! :-D
[09:20] <thelionroars> What if you haven't hung your boss yet?
[09:20] <thelionroars> the lynch mob isn't quite ready...
[09:39] <Cimi> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/location-page/+merge/231622
[09:43] <ara> hey
[09:44] <ara> simple end user question. How do I add scopes to favorites?
[09:51] <joc> ara: think that has not landed yet
[09:51] <ara> joc, ah, that would explain it, thanks :)
[09:51] <joc> believe they will be a star or something on the header bar
[09:51] <joc> s/they/there/
[09:54] <cwayne> theres one if you install silo 17
[09:54] <h2o64> Hi ! I'm the dev on xda for Ubuntu Touch Utopic ... And I have a bootloop very anoying .. Could you help me out ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/ubuntu-touch-utopic-ubuntu-touch-falcon-t2820359/page25#post54980406
[09:54] <h2o64> *a dev for Motorola Moto G
[10:05] <seb128> Cimi, what about that one? feel free to status approve it, you guys maintain the wizard
[10:05] <Cimi> seb128, ok
[10:05] <Cimi> seb128, I cannot
[10:06] <seb128> k, I'm going to have a look and do it then (if Ken doesn't beat me to it)
[10:21] <pitti> what does "My Roll" mean in the media scanner scope? (Trying to translate this)
[10:23] <pitti> Mirv: ah, thanks for landing the langpack rebuilds; want me to click "build", or are you?
[10:25] <JamesTait> pitti, "My Roll" is your local photos and videos, I think.
[10:25] <pitti> Mirv: ah well, done now
[10:26] <pitti> JamesTait: is that a comprehensible thing in English?
[10:26] <JamesTait> pitti, I think it's an iOS-ism. :(
[10:27] <JamesTait> pitti, it's not a phrase I'd heard in common use until iOS introduced (IIRC) the Photo Roll.
[10:28] <vitimiti> Hi, I have a problem when parsing a small xml file I've created myself, to access it I have to go to "../XML/filename.xml", that's correct. But, when parsing the file following the guides in the documentation of XmlListModel, I can't seem to get the name in the <name></name> tags I've created. Code: http://pastebin.com/2YqWVVzM Could somebody help me?
[10:29] <guest237> Hi everyone! Is there a way to run x11 natively on ubuntu-touch? google provided very little...
[10:32] <ogra_> for what purpose ... you would have to kill the Mir setup for this and would only be able to use plain framebuffer (very slow)
[10:32] <ogra_> but you indeed could do that
[10:33] <Mirv> pitti: yw!
[10:46] <lool> I'm trying to ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09
[10:46] <lool> but I get 2014/08/22 12:36:04 Failed to locate latest image information
[10:46] <lool> this is on mako
[10:46] <lool> (I've just screwed my install yesterday; not sure why but lightdm doesn't come up anymore
[10:48] <ogra_> lool, there was no promotion for rtm yet
[10:48] <lool> ah so proposed would work
[10:48] <ogra_> you want 14.09-proposed
[10:49] <lool> I guess we should promote current image though since we promoted the utopic one
[10:50] <ogra_> we only promoted for the existing arches in non-rtm ... if we want to promote rtm we need to do a new test run against the rtm arches
[10:50] <lool> arches? or devices?
[10:52] <ogra_> well subarches ... i.e. devices
[12:07] <sergiusens> davmor2: mind confirming bug #1360222 ?
[12:07] <davmor2> sergiusens: I'll ping you again for the bug in a bit I'm relocating and switching devices
[12:08] <sergiusens> davmor2: no worries or hurries
[12:08] <Datalink> is there a process currently for making a userland Linux (Android chroot jail) Ubuntu run the Ubuntu-touch UI?
[12:09] <sergiusens> Datalink: we use lxc to run the android adaptation layer (or trimmed down android that only exposes the drivers and related)
[12:09] <sergiusens> our*
[12:10] <Elleo> 23
[12:10] <sergiusens> if you want full android, ui et.al.; you can start there; but that's as far as  I'm to go into that subject
[12:10] <Elleo> oops
[12:10] <sergiusens> Elleo: 24
[12:10] <sergiusens> :-)
[12:10] <Elleo> :)
[12:12] <Datalink> sergiusens, so UT already runs on top of an Android kernel in a container?
[12:13] <sergiusens> Datalink: no, it doesn't run on top of android
[12:13] <sergiusens> we start an android container from ubuntu
[12:13] <Datalink> oh, so opposite order of what I'm trying to do
[12:14] <sergiusens> Datalink: for wha you want, I thought there were many android "apps" that did that already
[12:14] <popey> yeah, there's a few that will spark up ubuntu in a chroot
[12:15] <Datalink> I already have ubuntu in a chroot, I mentioned that part, what I want to do is get the GUI in place, I've found a working X11 for my tablet, tested with a few apps like gimp and desktop WMs but I figured that it'd be better to have a WM optimized for tablets, aka Ubuntu-touch's UI
[12:21] <Datalink> I'd also be interested in running it for remote terminals using either X11, VNC or RDP depending on which one I could find that'd have multitouch support
[12:22] <sergiusens> Datalink: then install unity8
[12:22] <Datalink> ah okay
[12:22] <Datalink> thanks
[12:23] <ogra_> note that it will look like ubuntu touch, but wont function like it
[12:23] <ogra_> (it needs Mir to properly do all the bits like lifecycle management of apps etc)
[12:25] <Datalink> ogra_, Mir looks like (at first glance) a replacement for X11?
[12:26] <popey> effectively, yes.
[12:27] <ogra_> heh... well
[12:27] <ogra_> its something completely new ... and not compatible to X
[12:27] <ogra_> (like wayland isnt)
[12:27] <Datalink> standards are wonderful, everyone should have one...
[12:28] <ogra_> wayland and Mir share similar standards
[12:28] <ogra_> (with a few exceptions on a higher level, else you wouldnt need two projects)
[13:50] <jgdx> seb128, allrigth, this is ready for review https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/visual-feedback-in-grid/+merge/231858 :)
[13:52] <seb128> jgdx, thanks, sorry that I didn't notice it was not "needs review" yet on the earlier version
[13:54] <jgdx> seb128, but it was in review, so that's my bad
[13:54] <jgdx> but in lp status only
[13:55] <seb128> k
[14:13] <kenvandine_> jgdx, looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/call-fwd-wait-dual-sim/+merge/231411
[14:13] <kenvandine_> jgdx, you wanted a review from elopio, still need that?
[14:13] <kenvandine_> elopio, got time to look?
[14:14] <jgdx> kenvandine_, right, that's probably not necessary since not much has changed
[14:14] <jgdx> autopilot wise
[14:14] <kenvandine_> jgdx, great, thx
[14:14] <kenvandine_> approved :)
[14:14] <kenvandine_> i'm going to do a landing this morning
[14:15] <kenvandine_> Saviq, who should i talk to about sim pin lock/unlock in the shell?
[14:16] <jgdx> kenvandine_, \o/
[14:18] <Saviq> kenvandine_, mterry, but he's away today (and Monday I think?)
[14:18] <Saviq> kenvandine_, can I help?
[14:18] <kenvandine_> yes please :)
[14:18] <kenvandine_> so i'm working on the settings side of that
[14:18] <kenvandine_> is the shell using the ofono api to unlock it?
[14:19] <kenvandine_> i see it's wrapping some connectivity api or something?
[14:19] <kenvandine_> or using... is that a wrapper for ofono?
[14:19] <kenvandine_> Saviq, i'm using libqofono now
[14:20] <Saviq> kenvandine_, it's indicator-network that we talk to
[14:20] <Saviq> kenvandine_, indicator-network then comes back and tells us "display the SIM unlock screen now"
[14:20] <Saviq> kenvandine_, but we're only the UI for that
[14:20] <kenvandine_> yeah, cool
[14:21] <Saviq> kenvandine_, we pass the values back'n'forth, but it's i-n that actually talks ofono
[14:21] <kenvandine_> Saviq, so do you know if we can add a pin on a sim that didn't already have one?
[14:22] <kenvandine_> ofono has a EnterPin API, but i'm not certain that adds a pin... and it seems to blow up with phonesim
[14:24] <Saviq> kenvandine_, it's definitely possible
[14:24] <kenvandine_> good :)
[14:24] <Saviq> kenvandine_, you can't *remove* it though
[14:24] <kenvandine_> maybe it blows up because there is already a pin of the same type
[14:24] <Saviq> kenvandine_, you can only disable the lock, but to enable it again you need to pass the previous PIN IIRC
[14:24] <kenvandine_> yeah
[14:24] <kenvandine_> that's what i'm doing when there is an existing pin
[14:24] <kenvandine_> lockPin and unlockPin
[14:25] <kenvandine_> just wanted to deal with adding a pin when there hadn't been one
[14:25] <kenvandine_> i need to figure out how to run phonesim without any pins
[14:25] <Saviq> kenvandine_, hmm so maybe I'm wrong
[14:25] <Saviq> kenvandine_, like all our SIMs have PINs when you get them
[14:25] <Saviq> and you can only change it, not remove it
[14:25] <kenvandine_> mine doesn't :)
[14:26] <Saviq> kenvandine_, that's why I say "our"
[14:26] <kenvandine_> right
[14:26] <Saviq> kenvandine_, yours are not lockable at all are they?
[14:26] <kenvandine_> that's what i'm wondering
[14:26] <kenvandine_> it's not clear to me
[14:26] <kenvandine_> pinRetries is blank too
[14:26] <Saviq> awe_, do you know if it's possible to add a SIM PIN to a card that didn't have one?
[14:27]  * kenvandine_ doesn't want to try it :)
[14:27] <kenvandine_> if you can't, then the UI needs to change a bit
[14:27] <awe_> Saviq, it's possible, although I don't know if the UI support has landed yet in system settings
[14:27] <kenvandine_> hiding the item
[14:27] <kenvandine_> awe_, that's what i'm working on :)
[14:27] <kenvandine_> awe_, is that what the enterPin API does?
[14:27] <awe_> Saviq, what kenvandine_ said.  ;D
[14:27] <mpt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#sim-pin
[14:28] <kenvandine_> awe_, do you know how to add a sim in phonesim that doesn't have a pin at startup?
[14:28] <awe_> no
[14:28] <kenvandine_> mpt, yup... i have locking and unlocking all working in the UI :)
[14:28] <kenvandine_> just trying to sort out adding a new pin
[14:29] <awe_> not without poking at the code a bit. jkangas have you played around with phonesim much?
[14:29] <awe_> is this something you could help kenvandine_ with?
[14:29] <awe_> Saviq, you also should be able to enable a new PIN on a PIN-less SIM via the ofono scripts
[14:29] <kenvandine_> i see the line in the default file that sets the pin
[14:29] <kenvandine_> maybe i can just remove it
[14:29] <awe_> ( installed into /usr/share/ofono/scripts )
[14:30] <kenvandine_> yeah, but phonesim defaults to having a pin set on each sim it creates
[14:30] <awe_> kenvandine_, is the default file a config file, or source code?
[14:30] <kenvandine_> xml file
[14:30] <jkangas> awe: not recently.
[14:30] <kenvandine_> i'll try just removing it
[14:30] <awe_> seems like a good idea
[14:30] <awe_> ack
[14:31] <kenvandine_> i just wanted to confirm you should be able to pin lock a sim that didn't come that way
[14:41] <jkangas> kenvandine: I suppose you wish to test behavior where SIM is unlocked i.e PIN is not required. Enter-Pin means giving Pin to the SIM which locked in order to enable usage of the card but keeping the PIN locked. Card always has a PIN, but it can be unlocked, i.e you don't need to enter the PIN in order to access it. I suspect you are
[14:43] <jkangas> after that. You can enable the PIN by using lock-pin script.
[14:44] <jkangas> Enter-pin should not happen when PIN is not locked, that propably makes phonesim work wrontg
[14:53] <kenvandine_> jkangas, actually i want to test creating a new pin for a sim that didn't have one
[14:55] <kenvandine_> jkangas, so is there no API for creating a new pin?
[14:55] <jkangas> kenvandine_: I think it should have PIN
[14:56] <kenvandine_> mine doesn't
[14:56] <jkangas> it's just not always asked
[14:56] <kenvandine_> pinRetries is empty
[14:56] <jgdx> kenvandine_, if you got a min https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/visual-feedback-in-grid/+merge/231858 – thanks
[14:57] <jkangas> it depends about the modem, but you should get the retries situation as result for the PIN entry
[14:57] <jkangas> if never given before, retries is empty.
[14:57] <jkangas> I know some modems manage to handle it somehow, but usually it does not do that
[14:57] <kenvandine_> with phonesim, on startup pintRetries have 3 for type "pin"
[14:58] <kenvandine_> jkangas, so how do people know what pin to use if their operator didn't provide a pin?
[14:58] <kenvandine_> or is there a common default one?
[14:59] <kenvandine_> jgdx, sure
[15:03] <kenvandine_> jgdx, do you know what's up with the CI failure?
[15:06] <jkangas> kenvandine_: Some operators do have default one. (That's the usual way here in Finland). Others provide it in various means when the card is purchased.
[15:06] <kenvandine_> like in the SIM pins aren't common
[15:06] <kenvandine_> whoos
[15:06] <kenvandine_> in the US
[15:06] <jkangas> kenvandine_: PIN in question is here always PIN1
[15:07] <jkangas> or universal PIN
[15:08] <jkangas> PIN2, which you use to enable Fixed dialling list etc, well it can be default one too, but usually you have to specially ask it from the service provider, it is not automatically provided
[15:09] <kenvandine_> jkangas, so you're saying that PIN1 is always set?
[15:09] <jkangas> kenvandine_: yes
[15:09] <kenvandine_> even in the US where most people have never heard of a sim pin?
[15:10] <jkangas> umm, are they using CDMA or something?
[15:10] <jkangas> RUIM cards?
[15:10] <kenvandine_> on gsm
[15:11] <kenvandine_> neither my att or t-mobile SIMs appear to have a pin
[15:11] <jkangas> well, I think only explanation would be then that PIN is not locked on those cards. Sounds scary, but I suppose they could do that
[15:11] <kenvandine_> they don't come locked, for sure
[15:12] <kenvandine_> i'm trying to figure out what to do about the settings UI
[15:13] <kenvandine_> i had thought that perhaps we could add a pin in that case, but i guess not
[15:13] <kenvandine_> jkangas, so in finland, would PinRequired be "pin"
[15:13] <jkangas> http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB102449&cv=820#fbid=J4BkiRg2zz0 says that ATT default SIM PIN lock code is 1111
[15:14] <kenvandine_> or could PinRequired ever be "none"
[15:14] <kenvandine_> so there is a default...
[15:14] <jkangas> kenvandine_: yes it could be none.
[15:14] <kenvandine_> ok, i can't rely on that then :)
[15:14] <kenvandine_> so if they have a default, we might need to add some text in the UI to give users a hint
[15:14] <kenvandine_> mpt, ^^
[15:14] <kenvandine_> thoughts?
[15:15] <jgdx> kenvandine_, no, I looked at it briefly. It's something I've seen before, I'm sure of it
[15:15] <kenvandine_> jgdx, transient failure?
[15:16] <mpt> kenvandine_, does/can the software know what the default is?
[15:16] <jgdx> kenvandine_, hopefully, I've started another build of it.
[15:16] <Cimi> seb128, I cannot top approve that https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/location-page/+merge/231622
[15:16] <jgdx> kenvandine_, but the debs are working fine :)
[15:16] <kenvandine_> mpt, no idea... i don't see a way
[15:17] <mpt> kenvandine_, by including it in a database, like we do for APN fields
[15:17]  * jgdx eats
[15:17] <seb128> Cimi, well, others can do it for you no? I can have a look in a bit, but still busy on getting something else working
[15:17] <mpt> (maybe the same database, even)
[15:17] <Cimi> seb128, sure, someone in that team though
[15:18] <seb128> Cimi, right, mterry can do it for example; or kenvandine_ or jgdx
[15:18] <mpt> kenvandine_, if we knew what the default was, we could pre-fill it like we do for Bluetooth devices where the PIN is probably 0000. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#Pairing>
[15:18] <mpt> kenvandine_, but if we don’t know what the default is, I’m not sure what you’re suggesting. How could we help?
[15:19] <kenvandine_> mpt, i was just thinking some suggestive text, like common defaults maybe
[15:19] <kenvandine_> maybe 1111 is common... dunno
[15:19] <kenvandine_> mpt, i'm just figuring this out now :)
[15:20] <kenvandine_> i know for myself... i never heard of a sim pin before we started working on our on phone :)
[15:20] <kenvandine_> <- typical american
[15:20] <kenvandine_> the apn database could be a nice solution
[15:20] <jkangas> kenvandenine_: default PINs when used are usually operator specific and there might be difference between card release dates too
[15:20] <jkangas> usually there are no suggestions
[15:20] <kenvandine_> ugh
[15:21] <jkangas> informing is handled by operator in way or another
[15:21] <kenvandine_> jkangas, in android, do you see UI for locking/unlocking your pin?
[15:21] <kenvandine_> none of my android devices have ever had UI for that
[15:22] <jkangas> kenvandenine_: yes
[15:22] <jkangas> it is in the settings
[15:22] <kenvandine_> nope...
[15:22] <kenvandine_> i just checked my htc one and a moto g
[15:22] <kenvandine_> neither do
[15:23] <kenvandine_> it's like android sees mine shouldn't be locked
[15:24] <jkangas> I need to open my android device, and takes some time, since it out of battery.. but that is one example: http://www.groovypost.com/howto/android-disable-change-pin-code/
[15:26] <kenvandine_> jkangas, i don't have that...
[15:26] <jkangas> ok, basically my phone which is sony follows this: http://userguide.sonymobile.com/referrer.php?region=us&product=xperia-tipo#!SIM-card-protection.html
[15:28] <kenvandine_> jkangas, i can't find it on my wife's galaxy s4 either
[15:30] <jkangas> kenvandine_: it should be under "security" there. http://www.galaxys4forums.net/forum/12-galaxy-s4-help/836-lock-sim-card.html
[15:30] <kenvandine_> scratch that... i did just find it on the s4
[15:31] <kenvandine_> i still can't find it on the htc one s
[15:31] <kenvandine_> i guess if they don't know the pin for an unlocked sim
[15:31] <kenvandine_> they can't lock it :)
[15:31] <jkangas> kenvandine_: heh, http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one/howto/365731.html
[15:31] <kenvandine_> so not terrible
[15:32] <jkangas> yep
[15:32] <kenvandine_> i don't have that under security
[15:32] <kenvandine_> mine is hte  one s
[15:32] <kenvandine_> the
[15:32] <kenvandine_> from t-mobile
[15:33] <kenvandine_> anyway... i guess i just don't need to worry about a case where there isn't one
[15:33] <kenvandine_> if they don't know it, they can't really shoot themselves in the foot :)
[15:33] <jkangas> yeah
[15:33] <kenvandine_> jkangas, thanks!
[15:34] <jkangas> you welcome
[15:35] <kenvandine_> Cimi, approved
[15:35] <kenvandine_> Cimi, it's in silo 8 too
[16:08] <jgdx> kenvandine_, actual test failure that makes no sense to me. Fixing…
[16:13] <kenvandine_> :)
[16:21] <jgdx> fixed
[16:21] <jgdx> locally at least
[16:23] <Wellark> pitti: hey..
[16:24] <Wellark> silo 7..
[16:24] <Wellark> I have additional indicator-network and connectivity-api MP
[16:24] <Wellark> 's and the plan was to have the indicator-network langpack MP as part of the rest of the i-network changes
[16:25] <Wellark> as silo 7 is not building, could we move the i-network MP from silo 7 to my silo to get the i-network MP's unblocked by silo7
[16:36] <kenvandine_> jgdx, can you test silo 8?
[16:36] <kenvandine_> call waiting was just spinning me
[16:36]  * kenvandine_ rebooted
[16:38] <kenvandine_> jgdx, that's with dual sim, going to the call waiting page the switch just spins
[16:39]  * kenvandine_ tests on single sim
[16:49] <jgdx> kenvandine_, weird
[16:49] <jgdx> will test, but have to relocate first
[16:49] <jgdx> (catching a ferry)
[16:49] <jgdx> bbl
[16:50] <kenvandine_> jgdx, thx... i'll let you know if it works with single sim in a few
[16:50] <jgdx> kenvandine_, anything in the logs?
[16:53] <ralsina> jdstrand: hi, I am getting this when trying to use settings in an app, do I have to request something specific in apparmor profile?  http://hastebin.com/omofokeqoz.rb
[16:53] <kenvandine_> jgdx, nope... notta
[16:54] <kenvandine_> i guess we removed all the debugging output :)
[16:55] <jdstrand> ralsina: no. that path is not something apps can use. You should set applicationName in your QML. See the bottom of http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/security-policy-for-click-packages/ for details
[16:55] <jdstrand> ralsina: if you are already doing that, then it sounds like there is a bug with the settings library
[16:56] <ralsina> jdstrand: yes, I am, so looks like a bug in Qt.labs.settings then
[16:56] <jdstrand> ralsina: is this a pure QML app?
[16:56] <ralsina> jdstrand: yes
[16:56] <ralsina> jdstrand: it's the "hello" app
[16:56] <jdstrand> yeah, then there is a bug
[16:57] <jdstrand> ralsina: can you file it? extra points if you add 'application-confinement' to it (that way I can track and find it for later)
[16:57] <jdstrand> I don't know what the source package is though
[16:58] <ralsina> jdstrand: sure will, I'll find it :-)
[16:58] <jdstrand> thanks!
[16:59] <kenvandine_> jgdx, works fine on mako
[17:15] <bzoltan> sergiusens: I have a problem with the flasher tool. I flash with --wipe --bootstrap, still after flashing the same PPAs are present and the same old packages are installed. The flasher finishes without error.
[17:21] <bzoltan> sergiusens:  I am flashng the 204 image and after the flash still the 203 image is on the device
[17:23] <ralsina> jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/1360366
[17:40] <Kaleo> ralsina, there is a bug report and a fix pending for that I think
[17:40] <ralsina> Kaleo: awesome, didn't know, feel free to mark as dupe
[17:40] <Kaleo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1241424
[17:40] <Kaleo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1354321
[17:40] <Kaleo> ralsina, are these what you are experiencing?
[17:41] <ralsina> Kaleo: yes, exactly
[17:41] <ralsina> no wonder I did not find it in libqtelegram :-)
[17:41] <Kaleo> ralsina, so the fix will land next week I think
[17:41] <jgdx> kenvandine_, hm. Wonder why.
[17:42] <jgdx> they use the same page, with, I think, the same bindings.
[17:46] <jgdx> kenvandine_, if you pull out one sim, the single cell panel callfwd/wait work?
[17:46]  * kenvandine_ tries
[17:47] <jgdx> thanks
[17:49] <jgdx> and kenvandine_, if you could, unlock the phone and run $ phablet-test-run -x autopilot3 run ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_phone.PhoneDualSimTestCase
[17:51] <kenvandine_> jgdx, i assume with both sims inserted?
[17:53] <jgdx> kenvandine_, that doesn't matter (I hope) :)
[17:53] <jgdx> we mock all the relevant interfaces
[17:55] <kenvandine_> jgdx, ok... with just one sim in the device, call waiting still just keeps spinning
[17:55] <kenvandine_> so maybe device specific
[17:57] <jgdx> kenvandine_, tests pass though?
[17:57] <kenvandine_> trying... had to install it
[17:57] <jgdx> but I've tested this
[17:57] <jgdx> though a while ago
[17:58] <kenvandine_> tests pass
[17:58] <jgdx> gah
[17:59] <jgdx> I can't install the silo (this ferry wifi is crap)
[18:00] <jgdx> but I'm going to try using ofono scripts
[18:11] <jgdx> kenvandine__, must be the branch I am afraid. Singlesim call wait works here. :|
[18:12] <kenvandine__> ok
[18:12] <jgdx> kenvandine__, you can confirm call wait works by using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8116144/
[18:13] <jgdx> foo.py enabled|disabled
[18:57] <kenvandine> jgdx, i dropped call-fwd-wait-dual-sim from the silo for now, i want to get the rest landed today
[19:12] <dobey> mhall119, popey: can you move your own, and the core apps/webapps to the correct categories on the store? YouTube webapp is under Communication instead of Video for example.
[19:13] <popey> sure
[19:13] <dobey> thanks
[19:16] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: hey, fyi bug 1359831, bug 1360418 and older bug 1288742. The first two started cropping up lately-- something in qt seems to be settings wrong paths which is causes denials. the 3rd may be fixed-- I didn't see it today-- someone may want to confirm
[19:16] <jdstrand> s/settings/setting/
[19:17] <pmcgowan> hmm
[19:18] <pmcgowan> oh the new settings stuff needed fixing
[19:18] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, I thought you guys fixed that ^^
[19:18] <pmcgowan> this may be different, state saver didnt change I think
[19:19] <jdstrand> yeah, I don't know. I didn't see the statesaver denials today when opening the clock, so it may be fixed
[19:35] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: oh I missed one: bug #1360366
[20:04] <laze1989> I am asking this here because you are the only people I can think of that have most common with Ubuntu and Qt ;-) I want to compile my own SQL Driver (using SqlCipher) for Qt 5.2.1. But Ubuntu repository does not provide source components. Any way I can get a package for Ubuntu? I cannot just install the source code for Qt. I've also have to install the QtCreator, which I already have from Ubuntu SDK.
[20:09] <Blueskyder> hi
[20:10] <Blueskyder> who is encharged of updating device list?
[20:14] <laze1989> Silly me. I should have just downloaded from the sub-folder /single where you get qt-everywhere-opensource-linux64 which holds the source code :-)
[20:48] <jgdx> kenvandine, yeah, I'll hope to have this fixed pretty soon when it's triaged. Any ideas?
[20:50] <kenvandine> no ideas
[21:10] <kenvandine> jgdx, although without that branch... it isn't useful on dual sim anyway :)
[21:11] <jgdx> kenvandine, what do you mean?
[21:18] <kenvandine> well without your branch
[21:18] <kenvandine> the phone plugin only sees the first sim
[21:18] <kenvandine> jgdx, ^^
[21:20] <kenvandine> jgdx, anyway, i've landed it without that one branch
[21:20] <jgdx> kenvandine, right.. I'm testing this now, not in the silo, but latest dev proposed, and it works for the first sim
[21:20] <jgdx> the second sim is spinning indefinitely, which I suspect has something to do with hardware.
[21:21] <kenvandine> probably
[21:21] <kenvandine> since the autopilot tests worked
[21:21] <robotfuel> sergiusens: awafaa Is there a programmatic way to send the power button event code via adb shell that you know of?
[21:21] <kenvandine> my first sim isn't a great example on this thing...
[21:21] <kenvandine> it get terrible coverage in my office
[21:21] <robotfuel> oops sorry awafaa I ment to tag awe
[21:21] <kenvandine> so it might have been losing signal
[21:21] <jgdx> ah
[21:22] <kenvandine> so maybe that wasn't a great test
[21:22] <kenvandine> and it is a hardware issue ?
[21:23] <sergiusens> robotfuel: uinput?
[21:23] <sergiusens> robotfuel: python-evdev
[21:23] <sergiusens> if you want puthon
[21:23] <sergiusens> python
[21:24] <robotfuel> sergiusens: ok thanks
[21:30] <jgdx> kenvandine, not sure. It's extremely flaky here, even though the coverage is good.
[21:30] <kenvandine> ok
[21:30] <jgdx> but list-modems always works
[21:37] <kenvandine> jgdx, maybe race condition in libqofono?
[21:39] <kenvandine> jgdx, i might need some help from you mocking SimManager's pin lock stuff
[21:39] <kenvandine> it's driving me nuts :)
[21:39] <jgdx> kenvandine, I was just thinking the same thing
[21:40] <kenvandine> i added a property for LockedPins
[21:40] <kenvandine> which is an string array
[21:40] <kenvandine> but in libqofono it's empty :(
[21:40] <jgdx> kenvandine, I'm going to create some tests where dbus takes a long time answering, looking for libqofono dbus faults
[21:41] <kenvandine> ok
[21:41] <jgdx> kenvandine, arrays
[21:41]  * jgdx shakes fist at dbus arrays
[21:42] <kenvandine> indeed :)
[21:42] <jgdx> kenvandine, can you do it in ofono.py? It works like a charm there
[21:43] <kenvandine> you mean the template?
[21:43] <jgdx> yeah
[21:43] <kenvandine> do we have our own?
[21:43] <jgdx> we needed our own
[21:44] <kenvandine> oh.. cool
[21:44] <jgdx> not really, but I'm adding everything to python-dbusmock as well
[21:44] <kenvandine> oh... where is it?
[21:45] <jgdx> tests/autopilot/ubuntu_system_settings/tests/ofono.py
[21:45] <kenvandine> nope...
[21:45] <kenvandine> not in my branch
[21:45] <kenvandine> not merged yet?
[21:45] <jgdx> didn't you merge in the 123123-fix?
[21:45] <kenvandine> oh... it was in that :)
[21:46] <jgdx> in one of them
[21:46] <kenvandine> i did... in another branch :)
[21:46] <jgdx> :p
[21:46] <kenvandine> ok
[21:46] <kenvandine> project for the weekend
[21:46] <kenvandine> i need to run now... thanks!
[21:46] <kenvandine> have a good weekend!
[21:46] <jgdx> we can try to do dbus arrays in the init as well, would help
[21:46] <jgdx> kenvandine, have a good one!
[23:58] <Blueskyder> hi
[23:58] <Blueskyder> in Ubuntu touch is possible to use jdk?