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Ali_M_Ahmedhello guys... Can you please tell me how to change time in Ubuntu's Terminal ?00:01
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kz_eeee, yeah but if i make it executable straight away i just need to double click on all of them?00:03
theadminAli_M_Ahmed: sudo date monthdayhourminute00:03
eeeekz_: no, you'd have to run it from a terminal00:03
OerHeksI would set time in bios00:03
exarkunI connected paired with and connected to my bluetooth keyboard.  Now how do I make it so I can actually send keystrokes that X will notice?00:03
kz_hmm00:04
eeeekz_: don't know if that's possible00:04
kz_well00:04
kz_im just trying to do things like run install.sh on these wireless drivers i have because they drop out00:04
eeeekz_: you actually can, nautilus > preferences > behavior > run executables when opened00:06
twmWhere are the Upstart logs hiding in Trusty?  When you start something it showed up in /var/log/syslog in Precise, but I'm tailing half of the logs in /var/log and can't find where that output goes now.00:07
rypervenchekz_: I wouldn't run a shell script from a GUI. If it has any output or needs input, it won't work properly just by double-clicking on it.00:11
kz_ah ok00:13
kz_is there a way to check if all my drivers are up to date? my computer starts to run slow after a while, usually after playing countrer strike a few times over the day00:14
kz_and my internet cuts out every now and again without disconnecting00:14
samthewildoneFinally I repaired my ubuntu.00:21
* samthewildone learns never to mess with compiz00:21
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netlarHi all00:22
expungehi just netlar00:22
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netlarexpunge: good, ha ha00:23
expungeyes, 'ha'00:23
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anarkhoshi00:39
daftykinshello00:39
PinnVodkatalk dirty 2 me00:40
daftykinsPinnVodka: i want you to tell me all about what's broken with your penguin00:40
daftykinsthen we're gonna fix it.00:40
PinnVodkawtf?00:40
eeeelol00:41
daftykinshi! this is the #ubuntu support channel.00:41
Fallhahahaha00:41
expungePinnVodka: pornview00:41
Marretahello00:41
expungehi Mar00:41
Marretawhere are you from expunge?00:42
daftykinsMarreta: support questions only please00:42
OerHeksif you download ubuntu now, you don' t need a serialnumber :-P00:43
exarkunI connected paired with and connected to my bluetooth keyboard.  Now how do I make it so I can actually send keystrokes that X will notice?00:43
crishi00:46
anarkhos"echo core/processors/devices > /sys/power/pm_test" gives me "echo: write error: invalid argument" - why?00:47
OerHeks!info xdotools00:48
ubottuPackage xdotools does not exist in trusty00:48
OerHekshmm00:48
OerHeks!xdotool00:49
hmullergreetings from the east coast, north america!00:54
SchrodingersScathmuller: not according to TSA, do you have a #ubuntu question?00:55
expungehmuller: greetings from der west00:55
expungeOerHeks: =)00:55
hmulleryes, asus-touchpad.sh is no longer around, being handled by the desktop00:56
hmulleraccording to changelog, but what is the  'desktop' in this context?00:56
hmullerpreviously I patched asus-touchpad.sh  so I could toggle the touchpad on my ul30vt00:57
hmullerno one familiar with the changes in acpi-support? no martin pitt lurking?01:01
neldogzMy daily cron job doesnt seem to run on ubuntu 14.01. I have it set to 9pm EST time: 0 21* * *roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )01:03
neldogzis there something extra i need to do?01:03
TJ-neldogz: What does the "||" do?01:04
hmullerif previous fails, do this01:04
neldogzthats specified by default in crontab, it runs anacron i guess and everything under /etc/cron.daily which is where my script is located01:05
FireBeyond14.04... grub always requires me to hit enter to select the default boot image, no errors or such, but i can't reboot unattended... what can i change to go into the default?01:06
sander^homeAfter I closed brasero burning program, then i'm getting: eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device.. The burner still runs loudly. And I cant eject the cdrom. i'm on 14.0401:06
sander^homeI closed it when it was burning.01:06
daftykinssander^home: reboot? :)01:06
eeeeneldogz: check /var/log/syslog01:07
sander^homedaftykins, I have so much stuff open, I dont want to do that now.01:07
daftykinssander^home: ah, do it when you can then.01:07
sander^homedaftykins, is there no way of just getting the noise away?01:07
sander^homeplug out the cable?01:08
neldogzeeee, it looks like it ran01:08
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neldogzAug 21 21:00:01 computername CRON[3805]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ))01:08
daftykinssander^home: if you're willing to do that, sure, but that's not an ubuntu question01:08
expungecccccccccccccccc: ohai01:08
neldogzhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/337204/cron-daily-jobs-not-running this article suggests to remove any extension from the script01:08
neldogzi am going to try this and reschedule the job in a few minutes01:08
sander^homedaftykins, anyway.. there is a bug here.. defenitely. It shouldnt be impossible to eject the cdrom.01:09
daftykinssander^home: closing a program in progress without a warning dialogue is a bit odd01:09
daftykinssander^home: very strong user error with that one though - if you'll forgive my saying so :)01:09
hmullerubuntu question: asus-touchpdad.sh has been removed from acpi-support, "Handled by desktop" can anyone elaborate on what "Handled by desktop" means?01:10
sander^homedaftykins, i'm fine with a wrongly burned cd.. but i'm not fine with a reboot.01:10
hmullerasus-touchpad.sh01:10
daftykinssander^home: i take it you looked at the processes list01:10
jhutchinshmuller: That suggests that the touchpad can be managed by the incorporated tools in the desktop and xorg.01:11
neldogzok so that article didnt help01:11
hmullerjhutchins: know what tools those might be? I used to patch asus-touchpad.sh to get the special keys to toggle the touchpad to work01:12
neldogzi can see my cron script here: run-parts --test /etc/cron.daily01:12
sander^homedaftykins, yes.. no obvious processes there.01:12
neldogzbut it doesn't run01:12
eeeeneldogz: is it set +x ?01:12
neldogzyes it sure is01:13
neldogzeeee, -rwx--x--x 1 root root   959 Aug 20 23:5001:13
jhutchinshmuller: No specific knowledge, just interpreting devspeak.01:14
neldogzso i removed the extension, i can see it in the run-parts --test command...just the script doesnt execute01:14
neldogzits actually a simple script just a few rsync lines01:14
neldogzrsync one-liners i should say01:14
jhutchinsnetlar: can you execute the script?01:14
sander^homedaftykins, I plugged out the power of the cdrom.. now it works again.. phuh..01:14
TJ-neldogz: It's the shell logical OR operator, so the complete line is saying "if /usr/sbin/anacron is executable do nothing, else do (cd / && run-parts ...) ... if you've got anancron installed, those lines will do nothing... you need to edit "/etc/anacrontab" instead01:15
hmullerjhutchins: thanks, looks like I have to conduct a little ubuntu development archeology01:17
expungeanacron's neat01:18
da_hi01:18
neldogzTJ-, /etc/anacrontab is setup as follows: 1       5       cron.daily      run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily01:18
mavenhida01:18
mavennoda01:19
expungehi da01:19
mavendagone :(01:19
neldogzTJ-, doesnt that mean that it will run every day 5 minutes after anacron is called?01:19
TJ-neldogz: yeah, <period> <delay> ...01:21
TJ-neldogz: And anacron is started by cron via /etc/cron.d/anacron with "30 7 *** ...."01:21
TJ-neldogz: It's a mess, isn't it!?!01:21
neldogzTJ-, that makes scheduling jobs unecessarily complex01:22
TJ-neldogz: is this a 24/7 running system?01:22
neldogzTJ-, its my desktop so its on most of the day .. just trying to get a few backups before i shut it off late at night01:22
TJ-neldogz: the point of anacron was to ensure jobs get run on desktop systems that are shutdown frequently01:22
neldogzTJ-, so does this mean that my script wont run until 7:30am01:23
neldogzTJ-, actually i take that back.. it means that anacron wont run until 7:30.. but then my job wont run until 9pm01:24
neldogzTJ-, does that sound right?01:24
TJ-neldogz: it looks that way; I have to say it takes some reading through the obfuscation01:25
eeeeneldogz: you could add it to root's crontab, sudo -i then crontab -e01:25
neldogzcan i just change the time anacron run?01:26
TJ-neldogz: if you want cron to handle the daily jobs you could simply edit /etc/crontab and change the command to lose the "test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || " part :) I'd be tempted to rip out anacron myself, purely for the frustration it causes :)01:26
TJ-neldogz: Yes, that can  be done too, but remember that anacron runs in the background as a service01:27
neldogzTJ-, thanks that makes sense. I am going to do a little more reading on both to see if i can understand it a little better01:27
TJ-neldogz: I find it is running right now on mine, so I don't know whether you want to rely on an offset from when it might have started01:27
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kokeboy1hello01:29
expungeohio01:29
wheatthineurika?  :P  jk.. have a problem kokeboy101:29
kokeboy1yes, i want to add a latin server in hexchat but i dont know how...01:30
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expungekokeboy1: /help connect01:32
expungekokeboy1: or hit CTRL+s01:32
expungeor ask #hexchat01:32
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bitchyguyyour OS is slow01:36
bitchyguy*ubuntu01:36
bitchyguyand shitty01:36
DebSysok01:37
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bitchyguylol01:41
JacobGuy7801Ham62, don't post the Win98 scrot01:45
neldogzTJ-, i've been reading this: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/automate-linux-cron-and-anacron01:46
neldogzguys is it correct to state that scheduled cron jobs in Ubuntu by default are not possible due to anacron? And apparently anacron only runs on bootup?01:46
neldogzso i guess the best thing to do is to setup a user cronjob that does not reference anacron?01:50
OerHeksneldogz, yes01:53
expungeyes, there's really no need to reference the cron executable01:53
OerHeks will run regardless of whether the user is actually logged into the system. There is also a root crontab for tasks requiring administrative privileges.01:53
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto01:53
OerHeksEach user has a crontab file01:53
neldogzOerHeks, thank you01:54
OerHekshave fun01:54
MHI would like to know if this is an IRC for new users support?01:57
expungeMH: of Ubuntu, yessir01:57
OerHeksMH sure01:57
MHcool01:57
MHI'm currently testing it without install01:57
MHbut will install it in few minutes01:57
MHjust have a quick question01:58
daftykinsask it then01:58
MHI currently have W801:58
MHand some valuable files on it01:58
expungeyup01:58
daftykinsbackup.01:58
daftykinsno matter what.01:58
MHis there any way to install keeping  the files but erasing W8?01:59
expungeMH: there's a way to install so it doesn't boot Windows01:59
expungeand in fact, that would be the default course the installer takes01:59
expungeyou can then delete Windows system files at your leisure01:59
MHawesome01:59
neldogzOerHeks, my cronjob still doesnt run eventhough i created a user cronjob01:59
expungethe first option from the installer will be to 'install alongside' or something like that02:00
expungeprobably want to do that, you can do whatever you want with the Windows side later on02:00
eeeeneldogz: what was the command in crontab -e02:00
TJ-MH: before you wipe out Windows 8, consider that some system update tools may require Windows, such as firmware update tools02:00
eeeeneldogz: check /var/log/syslog to see if it ran02:00
neldogz59 21    * * *   user1 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily/MIR   MIR is the name of my script file02:01
OerHeksneldogz, most likely no newline after editting ..02:01
OerHeks" When adding a new entry to a blank crontab, forgetting to add a newline at the end is a common source for the job not running. If the last line in the crontab does not end with a newline, no errors will be reported at edit or runtime, but that line will never run. "02:01
neldogzOerHeks, thanks, made the change and updated the time, waiting to see if it will run02:02
MHI will try to install Ubuntu keeping W8 just in case02:03
eeeeneldogz: that won't work02:04
MHbut the plan is to start in the Linux world and leave MS back02:04
eeeerun-parts is used to run all files in a directory02:04
neldogzeeee, i just realized that too and pulled that out02:05
Ciberohi02:05
MHcibero: Hi there02:05
Ciberoas command photos in chat02:06
neldogzeeee, this is what i have now and it still doesnt run:         05 22    * * *   user1   /etc/cron.daily/MIR02:06
wafflejockMH: yeah you can use clonezilla bootable CD to take an image of your entire disk and restore it if need be, it's a nice solution for a full backup that's relatively easy to restore (good if you have eSATA or USB, or across an Ethernet network since over wifi the full backup can take a very long time)02:07
eeeeneldogz: MIR is owned by user1 ?02:07
neldogzcorrection it runs but the script doesn't execute: Aug 21 22:05:01 computer1 CRON[12325]: (user1) CMD (user1   /etc/cron.daily/MIR)02:07
neldogzcheckign02:07
Ciberoas photos are sent in chat02:07
eeee( or executable by all )02:07
neldogzeeee, its owned by root but executable by all02:07
neldogz-rwx--x--x 1 root root   959 Aug 20 23:50 MIR02:08
eeeeok, if you run the script in a terminal what do you get?02:08
neldogztrying that now02:08
CiberoI get letters saying something I have a picture02:08
neldogzpermission denied02:08
expungeif your Windows install came with a rescue partition, it's usually enough to save that and the partitino layout, and the boot area if there is one02:09
CiberoI get black letters02:09
neldogzeeee, i guess i have to own it02:09
eeeeneldogz: what does the script do?02:09
eeeedoes it require privileges?02:09
expungeand if you wanted to be ultra hardcore for some reason, you can usually do firmware updates from live DOS environments02:09
anarkhoswould it cause problems if i unloaded the intel gma 500 graphics driver for testing purposes, if im working in command-line mode only?02:09
Ciberowhen I start live cd02:09
expungeanarkhos: probably not02:09
neldogzjust a bunch of rsync stuff.. does not require special permissions02:09
expungeanarkhos: is your text quite large?02:09
Ciberoplease help02:09
anarkhosor would it resort to some basic, emergency graphics solution?02:09
expungeanarkhos: sometimes "outside of X" is still using graphics02:10
anarkhosnot really large02:10
anarkhosim wondering whether the gma driver causes suspend-resume problems02:10
Ciberoas I can send a photo so you can see my mistake02:11
neldogzeeee, ok i an the owner of the file.. updated the time in the user cron job02:11
neldogzthis is what i am running: 12 22    * * *   user1   /etc/cron.daily/MIR02:11
anarkhosexpunge: how likely do you think that is?02:11
Cibero... thx for help02:12
expungeanarkhos: if your text is very large, it is unlikely02:12
anarkhosit's not very large02:12
expungeanarkhos: if it is small and you can see many many words per line, it's probably still using a high level graphics driver02:12
eeeeneldogz: you don't need to specify the user if you're using the user's cron02:12
expungeanarkhos: I doubt anything truly bad would happen if you unloaded it, though02:12
wafflejockanarkhos: sounds more like an ACPI issue than graphics related02:12
neldogzyeah but the file is located in cron.daily02:13
eeeeneldogz: 12 22    * * *   /etc/cron.daily/MIR02:13
anarkhoswafflejock: yeah there are acpi messages in dmesg, related to POWER BUTTON++02:13
wafflejockCibero: not clear what you're trying to (which chat client)02:13
anarkhoswafflejock, expunge: and this problem is exhausting me02:14
eeeeneldogz: s/you dont need/you shouldn't/02:14
fanyujiaohello everybody02:14
wafflejockanarkhos: believe for suspend you need to have as much swap space as you have RAM is that true right now?02:14
anarkhosif i learned that it is actually not solvable, that would be ok02:14
oemhi02:14
anarkhoshmm02:14
anarkhosffor suspend too? not only hibernation?02:15
eeeewafflejock: yeah, and abit more02:15
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anarkhosbecause i have no swap02:15
Ciberowafflejock02:15
Cibero kiwi irc02:15
eeeeanarkhos: only hibernation02:15
wafflejockyeah wasn't sure02:15
anarkhosright02:15
wafflejockanarkhos: yeah dunno I don't have a problem with sleep mode currently but I also rarely use it you can try shutting down/suspending from the command line and see if you get any more info about what's failing02:16
Ciberowafflejock as I can send a photo so you can see my mistake02:16
anarkhosit suspends like in windows. it's the resume that doesn't work. i have to disconnect power, battery02:16
anarkhosive tried from command-line, same problem02:17
wafflejockanarkhos: k02:17
wafflejockanarkhos: can you pastebin the part of dmesg that has ACPI related issues mentioned02:17
anarkhoswafflejock: will you be around tomorrow?02:18
wafflejockanarkhos: yeah probably02:18
wafflejockanarkhos: I'm usually in the angularjs chat but I hop in here every once in a while02:18
anarkhosok then ill try to show you02:18
Picky1004i have an problem with LINUX02:19
wafflejockCibero: you can give it a shot I'm in Quassel IRC though and honestly don't think I've seen any media options in IRC aside from auto-loading URLs on hover in Quassel02:19
Picky1004it no work02:19
Picky1004it LINUX dont work i have it on an surface pro02:20
Picky1004WHY ARENT YOU HELPING ME YOU HATE ME02:20
Picky1004i have an LINUX it no work02:20
OerHeksubuntu on a surface pro 1 ?02:21
wafflejock!details | Picky100402:21
ubottuPicky1004: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)02:21
Picky1004how do i make an linux work02:21
Ham62wow, no wonder this chat caused my other system to crash...02:21
neurosisif it no work run win02:21
Picky1004i have an linux it boots up and it no work it says kernil oooops02:21
neldogzeeee, still not working02:22
Picky1004an system error02:22
neldogzeeee, i moved the script out of cron.daily into my home directory02:22
eeeeneldogz: is it running from the terminal>02:22
eeee*?02:22
neldogzupdated the user cron to reflect 23 22    * * *   user1 /home/user1/Desktop/MIR/MIR.sh02:22
eeeeneldogz: you aren't supposed to put "user1" there02:23
neldogzeeee, i got a permissions denied when i tried to run from the terminal and then it actually ran02:23
Picky1004an LINUX FUCKED ME WY DO YOU HATE ME XDXDXDXD02:23
eeeeyou're running the command "user1 ...."02:23
fanyujiao002:23
expungePicky1004: weeee02:23
OerHeks!language | Picky100402:23
ubottuPicky1004: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:23
neldogzeeee, take out the user completely?02:23
eeeeneldogz: yes02:23
neldogzok this is what i have now02:24
neldogz25 22    * * *   /home/user1/Desktop/MIR/MIR.sh02:24
neldogzfor the love of god if this doesnt work....02:24
Picky1004I AM AN POLITE BUT A LINUX SYSTEM ERROR AND RAPED ME YOUR LIKE VORTEX I WILL HURT KILL YOU REAL LIFE02:25
sar4jHi All, I am unable to upgrade from 12.04 to 1402:25
sar4jhttp://pastebin.com/NxY7QfZD02:25
sar4jError -- The following packages have unmet dependencies:  linux-headers-generic-lts-raring : Depends: linux-headers-3.8.0-41-generic but it is not installed02:25
neldogzeeee, it doesnt work02:26
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eeeeok,02:26
daftykinsraring's kernel is EOL :>02:26
eeeeis it running? check /var/log/syslog02:26
neldogzi can see it kicking off in /var/log/syslog02:26
neldogzbut no errors.. nothing02:26
Picky1004I AM FUCKED RAPE BY XDXD AN LINUX SYSTEM ERROR I WILL KELL ALL OF YOU TROLL02:26
Picky1004MAD BRO02:26
neldogzAug 21 22:25:01 computer1 CRON[14129]: (user1) CMD (/home/user1/Desktop/MIR/MIR.sh)02:27
daftykinssar4j: is that your running kernel?02:27
daftykinssar4j: actually no it can't be, remove linux-headers-generic-lts-raring02:27
eeeeneldogz: try /home.../script >> ~/scriptlog 2>&102:27
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eeeethat will send the output of the command to scriptlog02:27
sar4jdaftykins: tried that too02:28
daftykinssar4j: what was the output?02:28
sar4jhttp://pastebin.com/kzBXRtsK02:29
wafflejock!ops | Picky100402:29
ubottuPicky1004: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang02:29
daftykinssar4j: run "dpkg -r linux-headers-generic-lts-raring"02:30
neldogzeeee, i found the problem02:30
neldogzwhen i moved it from cron.daily it stripped the execute permission02:31
neldogzwhen i added it back now it works02:31
neldogzso my user cron looks like this02:31
sar4jdaftykins: done., it says removed, but still same error on dist-upgrade.. pastebinning02:31
neldogz30 22    * * *   /home/user1/Desktop/MIR/MIR.sh02:31
eeeecool02:31
neldogzi didn't have to touch anacron.. or the systemcron02:32
xjkxJust found an old, Palm Os thing that I owned, I'd like the notes inside it, googling I found some methods with gnome-pilot, but this command no longer works, how should I do ? [ubuntu 14.04]02:32
sar4jhttp://pastebin.com/hTYqmkxv02:32
neldogzdamn what a super PITA lol02:32
neldogzeeee, thanks for your help02:32
eeeenp02:32
daftykinssar4j: ah it's trying to update to the wrong OS then. try "do-release-upgrade -p"02:33
neldogzdefinitely learned a few things today about cron and anacron thanks to you guys02:33
expungeanacron is the lady cron, right? =)02:34
sar4jdaftykins: something screwed up, http://pastebin.com/gC3FJLSD its a cycle02:35
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daftykinssar4j: "apt-get -f install" as it suggests?02:36
sar4jdaftykins: its going somewhere .. installing linux-headers-3.8.0-44 and some other pks02:39
Ham62hi02:39
Ham62damn, that was allot of users02:39
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Ham62I need help with setting up my Ubuntu server02:40
sar4jdaftykins: and here I thought -f was prompting me to install with force ;_02:40
daftykins;)02:40
Falluse the forks, luke.02:40
daftykinssar4j: it's basically "finish what you were doing"02:40
sar4jah..02:40
daftykinsHam62: #ubuntu-server is for you then02:40
Ham62ok02:41
Ham62thanks02:41
sar4jdaftykins: darn.. : No space left on device02:41
daftykinssar4j: to be honest are you absolutely sure you *need* to be running 14.04 ?02:42
Sacrelicioushey question for you all,, after switching to ubuntu my laptop is shockingly quiet, audio wise, is there a way to boost the audio output?02:42
sar4jdaftykins: i guess I will go fix this some other way.. thanks for getting me this far..02:42
daftykinssar4j: no problem, good luck. likely you have lots of old kernels in /boot02:43
sar4jnah, i was getting that error when I was trying to install ddclient02:43
sar4ji thought may take time and fix the whole os02:43
sar4jbut looks like i have more to do02:43
expungeSacrelicious: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219739/adjust-max-possible-volume-in-pulseaudio02:43
sar4jHow safely make room in /boot?02:44
Sacreliciousexpunge: i'm a linux noob... how do i get to that control setting?02:44
sar4ji see /dev/sda1                         233191  219302      1448 100% /boot02:44
expungesar4j: with gparted, from a live OS02:45
expungesar4j: but it's not 100% safe, it's more like 90%02:45
daftykinssar4j: can you do a "df -h" to pastebin?02:46
expungesar4j: you could also tell /etc/fstab that /boot is not separate, and copy /boot's contents to /boot on /, and potentially reinstall GRUB =P02:46
expungeor you could, yeah, remove some cruft from boot02:46
daftykinspretty sure he's got bigger issues02:46
sar4jdaftykins : pfft.. this is not my day http://pastebin.com/ARdDedTb02:49
daftykinssar4j: uname -r ?02:49
daftykins(paste it here, it's one line)02:49
sar4j3.8.0-39-generic02:49
anarkhoswhen i create a xorg.conf which contents should entail that the vesa driver is loaded, but the gma500 driver nonetheless is loaded upon reboot, what's going on? why isn't the vesa driver loaded?02:50
anarkhoslspci -v suggests that gma500 still is the kernel driver02:51
daftykinssar4j: ok "dpkg -r linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic linux-image-3.8.0-33-generic linux-image-3.8.0-34-generic linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic linux-image-3.8.0-36-generic linux-image-3.8.0-37-generic linux-image-3.8.0-38-generic"02:51
Bashing-omsar4j: When you are done add your voice to the bug report :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 .Boot created in LVM too small .02:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1357093 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:52
sar4jBashing-om: sure02:53
Bashing-omsar4j: :)02:53
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anarkhosis it hazardous to blacklist the gma500 driver? id like to test the xorg.conf solution02:56
anarkhoswith vesa config02:56
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daftykinstry it, if it fails, undo it02:57
daftykinssimples.02:57
anarkhosas long as i will be able to02:57
anarkhosthat i get a screen at all02:57
krismatrixWhat is the difference between Stop, End and Kill process in linux sytem monitor?02:59
eskpwhy does 14.04 have 3.13 as the latest stable kernel when 12.04 has 3.2?03:00
TJ-eskp: Because 3.13 was the latest stable kernel when 14.04 went into feature freeze03:01
TJ-eskp: The "." is not a decimal point, it is a major.minor version separator03:02
eskpTJ-: ok that makes sense, thanks!03:03
watanabematsuitest03:05
anarkhossuccess03:05
sar4jdaftykins : that cleaned up a lot03:07
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sar4jnow use only 23M03:07
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wafflejockkrismatrix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184032903:07
daftykinssar4j: cool, back to "apt-get -f install" now :)03:08
sar4japt-get -f is getting linux-image-3.8.0-44-generic_3.8.0-44, and it is 50M - bigger?03:08
daftykinssar4j: it's definitely not doing what you want it to be doing03:11
daftykinssar4j: i expect you are running the raring HWE on 12.0403:11
sar4jdaftykins: I have no idea i ever installed / upgraded this machine03:12
sar4j*kernels on this machine03:12
daftykinssar4j: is it an important system? much data?03:13
sar4jit is a home server, not much data.. data is one a external hdd/mount03:13
sar4ji actually run inside virtualbox03:13
daftykinsprobably be easier to just nuke it03:13
TJ-sar4j: see the tool "hwe-support-status" tool info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL03:13
krismatrixThanks wafflejock03:15
krismatrixso...is there some problem with using kill?03:15
wafflejockkrismatrix: it's better to just end it if possible so it can close down and properly end any file writing it's doing03:16
wafflejockkrismatrix: but if that doesn't work you can kill/terminate it03:17
Deep6can  anyone help me fix this error?03:17
wafflejockkrismatrix: it's not typically a big problem03:17
Deep6Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.03:17
Deep6ssh related03:17
Deep6I've tried googling and the ssh-add solution didn't wokr03:18
Deep6er work03:18
sar4jTJ- : thats helpful. thanks a bunch. Now I see what is going on.03:18
daftykinssar4j: honestly, if you're dealing with a VM, i'd just create a new one, migrate the data then turn off this one. life's too short03:19
krismatrixok...that is good to know. Thanks.03:19
wafflejockDeep6: haven't seen anything about this but can you describe the scenario in more detail is it just as soon as you try to establish a connection using SSH connection you get this message?03:19
wafflejockkrismatrix: np03:19
sar4jdaftykins: spoke my mind! cheers mate.. I guess, I will just do a clean install.. weekend project ;)03:20
sar4jThanks a lot all, i guess I should hangout here more often.. cool channel!!03:20
wafflejocksar4j: yeah minus an occasional troll it's a good channel03:21
expungebut not a mint condition one =P03:21
Deep6wafflejock: I have created an aws instance, and added another user, created an ssh key pair for myself03:21
Deep6and have moved that to the authorized_keys file with the correct perms,03:22
wafflejockDeep6: you modify the security/firewall rules in AWS too03:22
Deep6tried to ssh with the id_rsa file as my identifier03:22
Deep6ssh is answering it's not a connectivity error03:22
TJ-Deep6: "ssh -vvv ..." will give you extensive connection debug information03:23
Deep6TJ-: already done03:24
TJ-Deep6: what's it failing on?03:24
wafflejockDeep6: can you pastebinit03:24
Deep6http://pastebin.com/z660Xhes03:26
Deep6that's a snippet03:26
Deep6not the whole output, but enough to see the error03:26
Deep6I unset SSH_SOCK and it worked03:30
ubunti need mount a image mdf mds i put in terminal sudo mount -o loop=/dev/loop0 /media/aukun/magatzem/Descargas/FAULT.mdf /media/virtual03:34
ubuntbut giveme error03:34
daftykinswith an MDF and MDS pairing, one is the volume and one is metadata, are you picking the larger?03:35
daftykinsubunt: ^03:35
daftykinssleeping now, bye03:35
ubuntyes the larger03:36
expungeubunt: just -o loop should suffice03:36
zipcwhen i do $ echo 'testbase64' | base64  i get dGVzdGJhc2U2NAo=  as result... but when i use online base64 encoders i get different value.  Why is that?03:36
expungeubunt: what error?03:36
rasheedexquisite03:36
expungezipc: what value do you get?03:36
ubuntonly read03:36
daftykinszipc: remove the quotes? :>03:36
ubuntwrite protect03:36
rasheedi have problems with my google chrome on ubuntu 14.0403:36
expungeubunt: that isn't necessarily a show stopper03:37
expungeubunt: you weren't planning on writing to the mount anyways, were you?03:37
expungerasheed: yes?03:37
rasheedcan anyone help03:37
rasheedit wont uninstall03:37
expungezipc: and why does it matter if you have 'base64' locally? =)03:37
ubuntyes only read03:37
zipcdaftykins: online encoders, i get  dGVzdGJhc2U2NA==    removing the quotes are the same03:37
rasheedneither will it open fully03:37
expungeubunt: so no problem at all, don't you think? =)03:37
daftykinszipc: oh well i have to go03:37
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expungezipc: link?03:37
zipcexpunge: http://www.base64encode.org/   string is testbase6403:38
ubuntyes but where is the mount image?03:38
expungezipc: not sure, but I'd take GNU's base64 as the standard03:39
expungeubunt: /media/virtual03:39
ubuntno is there03:39
SchrodingersScatzipc: the newline03:40
ubuntin media virtual nothing files03:40
expungeyeah the newline =)03:40
expungezipc: try echo -n03:40
leotrhi03:42
zipcSchrodingersScat: like echo 'testbase64-n' | base64  ?03:43
leotri want to install minimal amount of packages to run qt5 application03:43
SchrodingersScatzipc: echo -n "testbase64" | base6403:43
leotri have Xorg, what qt5 packages do i need to install?03:43
expungeleotr: if it's truly a qt5 app, it should dep the right packages in on its own03:44
leotrexpunge: i build it myself03:44
SchrodingersScatzipc: the -n tells echo not to add a newline, which is normally cleaner for your terminal, etc, but in this case it was giving base64 the extra data03:44
expungezipc: by default echo send a newline at the end, so you get a prompt back cleanly03:45
expungeawe beaten again =P03:45
zipcSchrodingersScat: nice catch. that explains it03:45
zipcexpunge: i never knew echo sends a newline..03:45
jackhumwhat is the best proxy appliation available for ubuntu , i want a program just like proxifier , i want to setup a proxy of HTTPS protocol03:46
expungezipc: try just running 'echo -n foo'03:46
expungezipc: you'll get your prompt back, but it will be right after 'foo'03:46
expungezipc: this is also why text files typically end with a final newline03:47
SunstreamI need to know the best place to learn to become a power user of Ubuntu, what forums do anyone suggests, and which are good additional repositories should I add? (Privmesg/Query it to me)03:47
expungeSunstream: simpler to learn one thing at a time03:47
expungeSunstream: pick something you want to do, figure it out03:47
jackhumanyone can tell me how to setup HTTPS proxy in ubuntu?03:48
SunstreamHmm.03:48
xanguaSunstream: you can find the links to forum, launchpad, askbuntu, etc in ubuntu.com itself03:48
Psil0Cybini am going to be trying to upgrade another laptop to 14.04 (head ache) what is the command to properly rsync my home dir to my memory stick with a dry run?03:48
expungePsil0Cybin: rsync -n -av ~/ /mnt/memstick/03:49
SchrodingersScat!info tinyproxy | jackhum, this is one of probably many, it was a very short config file.  but define best, because that could be defined in many attributes..03:49
ubottujackhum, this is one of probably many, it was a very short config file. but define best, because that could be defined in many attributes..: tinyproxy (source: tinyproxy): A lightweight, non-caching, optionally anonymizing HTTP proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.3-3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 58 kB, installed size 195 kB03:49
mathsebiannHello03:49
SunstreamOkay I will have to google those to find those sites.03:49
Psil0Cybinthank you and after expunge i would remove the -n to remove dry run after it looks good?03:49
expungePsil0Cybin: or perhaps more clearly, rsync -av ~/ /mnt/memstick/ --dry-run03:50
expungePsil0Cybin: yes exactly03:50
Psil0Cybinthanks :D03:50
Psil0Cybinyou rock man03:50
mathsebiannAny person able to explain how can I resize a the System Partition?03:50
expungePsil0Cybin: nou03:50
expungemathsebiann: resize what now?03:50
mathsebiannI just installed Ubuntu03:50
mathsebiannand then I saw there was another partition of 377GB and I would like to unify that partition with the current 137GB partition that has ubuntu installed int03:51
SchrodingersScat!gparted | mathsebiann03:52
ubottumathsebiann: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:52
Beldarmathsebiann, Needs to be done from the live boot, boot that and come back to the channel.03:52
expungemathsebiann: is this a dual boot?03:52
jackhumwhat should i add in conf file . usually in proxifier server address is my IP , port is 3128 and protocol is HTTPS03:52
SunstreamI got a couple of e-books from "Kindle Unlimited" Named: "Managing the Ubuntu Software System by Keir Thomas" and "Working At The Ubuntu Command-line Prompt by the same writer" Both are easy to understand for the newer user (Not being overly technical) and it actually gave me a huge encouragement to learn Ubuntu03:53
mathsebiannThanks!03:54
SchrodingersScatjackhum: really best if you just read /etc/tinyproxy.conf and set it up how you like, the port is toward the top though, then you probably need to set the authorized IPs, etc.03:55
botnutgreetings03:55
expungeSunstream: Keir is an interesting name03:55
SunstreamNods he writes good books its not too technical it actually taught me some things I did not know about Ubu.03:56
SunstreamKeir Thomas wrote a few Linux Nitty Gritty books03:56
BeldarSunstream, This is #ubuntu-offtopic stuff not support.03:58
sydneysunHey,your back :)03:59
sydneySunstream: Hey,your back :)03:59
mathsebiannexpunge: it was a Windows partition04:02
SunstreamHey hey04:02
Gaming4JCHey guys, I'm probably missing something obvious... but... how do you set screensavers in the latest LTS?04:02
SunstreamWow, SSO is not free?04:02
Gaming4JCapparently gnome-screensaver no longer has any screensavers04:03
Gaming4JCsuper dumb04:03
Gaming4JC:(04:03
Gaming4JCso I installed xscreensaver and it works ok but gnome-screensaver still runs at boot so xscreensaver isn't default04:03
Gaming4JC*confused*04:03
expungeSSO?04:03
expungemathsebiann: so you aren't dual booting04:04
mathsebiannexpunge: not anymore04:04
expungerighto04:05
mathsebiannI see in gparted that the partition i want to join to the ubuntu system partition is the first in the Hard Drive allocation04:05
mathsebiannIf I want to resize the partition i cannot do that with previous free space (make sense?)04:06
Beldarmathsebiann, Take a screen shot and post it in a imagebin.04:06
SunstreamUbuntu 1 oh it says free and paid services in terms04:06
Gaming4JCaha04:07
Gaming4JChttp://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/install-xscreensaver-ubuntu-14-04/04:07
Gaming4JCthanks :p04:07
expungeSunstream: ubuntu 1 is gone IIRC04:07
Beldarmathsebiann, Are you on a live boot or the install?04:07
maherrera89_?04:09
kostkonexpunge, only the cloud file service04:09
maherrera89_I have take the screenshot, but how do I post it in the imagebin?04:09
Beldar!imagebin | maherrera8904:10
ubottumaherrera89: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/04:10
Sunstreamwell when I went to ubuntuforums.org it uses SSO04:10
maherrera89_uploading, thanks ubottu04:11
BeldarSunstream, Would you take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic04:11
expungeSSO?04:11
kostkonexpunge, ubuntu single sign on04:12
Beldarexpunge, Would you join Sunstream at #ubuntu-offtopic please04:12
SunstreamYeah SSO Single Sign On04:12
expungeoh yeah....04:12
expungeBeldar: nah04:12
SunstreamI will go to off topic04:12
Beldarthank you04:12
Sunstreammy appoligies its been time since I been here I forget about that heh Sorry Beldar04:12
maherrera89_ubottu, expunge: here is the image04:13
maherrera89_http://imgur.com/8dwJpxT04:13
Beldarmaherrera89_, So your end goal is ubuntu on the whole HD? NOte we preface with nicks here.04:14
maherrera89_Beldar: yes, thats the objective04:15
tortibHello is anyone familiar with SNMP?  I'm having a problem when I walk the OID .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.1.6 it's only showing 1 process instead of the maximum amount of loaded processes on the system.04:15
expungewhat I'd do is delete the ntfs, apply, then right click on the extended and see what it says about enlarging04:15
SunstreamSydney can you join me in off topic or priv message?04:16
Beldarmaherrera89_, Delete sda1 than resize the extended sda3 that resize the sda5, run all independently in that order.04:16
apb1963 i'm still having problems connecting over wireless.  At the moment, I'm using wicd.  It seems to get stuck on "Verifying AP association...".   Without wicd I can get the connection up and ping the Net - but if I take eth0 down, my wireless goes away too.  wicd is the only way I can bring eth0 back (which is the main reason I'm using it).04:16
Beldarmaherrera89_,YOu have to unmount all the partitions however.04:16
Beldarmaherrera89_, You, you need to be on a live ubuntu.04:17
apb1963Been working on this for two days solid and don't seem to be getting anywhere.04:17
maherrera89_Beldar: What do you mean with a live ubuntu?04:18
maherrera89_non booted from the HDD?04:18
Beldarmaherrera89_, The ubuntu install boot a live boot from it's desktop using gparted.04:18
maherrera89_Got It04:18
maherrera89_thanks04:18
Beldarmaherrera89_> non booted from the HDD? Yes, you jave to have all the partitions unmounted.04:19
Beldarhave*04:19
maherrera89_Ok04:20
maherrera89_Beldar_, will reboot my PC and start from a live version, thanks for help me out... one quick question, would that action erase all my current docs in the Ubuntu partition?04:20
expungemaherrera89_: it shouldn't, but there's no guarantee, unless you have a backup04:21
rasheed_google chrome crashes whenever i open it on ubuntu 14.04 and cant be removed from my system either, so what can i do really?04:21
rasheed_looking out for ur assistance04:21
maherrera89_expunge_, I have one, no problem... thanks!04:22
Beldarmaherrera89_, Theoretically no, but always be prepared for that with backups. YOU may loose the boot however by resizing it, which is an easy fix from the live04:22
NaStYdoGhey there, I just installed Dropbox from software center but it's been half an hour that is "applying changes". Is that normal?04:22
Psil0Cybinguys having a problem i n12.04, complete freezes when working in android studio, and using firefox on a 8gb ram machine , causing corrupt projects, things i am working for a long time :P lol my question is i can not even move the mouse or keyboard, it is a complete freeze04:22
expungeNaStYdoG: can't imagine it is04:23
Psil0Cybini really really do not want to format but i guess i may need too...correct?04:23
_shrineyoo04:23
_shrineI'm bored and I want to write some ruby scripts to do silly things04:23
_shrineany ideas?04:23
expungePsil0Cybin: corrupt in what way?04:23
expunge_shrine: install ruby04:23
expunge_shrine: then /join #ruby04:23
Psil0Cybinwell if u cold reboot when working on an android studio project04:23
Psil0Cybinit erases all ur files04:24
Psil0Cybinand ur project wont run04:24
expungePsil0Cybin: that doesn't sound particularly abnormal...04:24
wlemuelrageberry have you ever tried "apt-get remove google-chrome*" to remove it?04:24
Psil0Cybinand i lost everything pretty much, but my case is that i stay in my laptop for 45 or more working on 2 more things without my computer completely freezing keyboard and all04:24
expungePsil0Cybin: well that's what saving is for04:25
wlemuelrasheed_ have you ever tried "apt-get remove google-chrome*" to remove it?04:25
Beldarwlemuel, They are gone.04:26
Psil0Cybinexpunge, i can only save so much04:26
Psil0Cybini was in the middle of compressing a file, saving it! and it crashed04:26
Psil0Cybinmy system04:26
Beldarwlemuel, remove leaves configs04:26
Psil0Cybinand it never saved the .tar, and completely erased my project!04:27
Psil0Cybinwhat can someone suggest i have a lenovo and it randomly crashes, when using firefox and anynother application lets say04:27
cfhowlettNaStYdoG, kind of depends on your download speed but it does seem excessive.04:27
expungePsil0Cybin: you can probably use more stable native tools for your development04:28
expungePsil0Cybin: and do final end-run testing in the emulator/whatever04:28
wlemuelBeldar, with the command "apt-get purge", right?04:28
Beldaryes04:28
expungefor a more comprehensive approach, you could probably look into filesystem snapshots04:28
Psil0Cybinwell its more of a ubuntu problem that it freezes not when using android studio but firefox and music playing or firefox and the terminal, and it isnt low on ram, memory tests said the computer is fine, the only thing that is wrong is the computer cold freezes04:28
Psil0Cybinno keys work no mouse04:28
expungeor regularly quasi-hibernation snapshots04:29
NaStYdoGwell, If I close the software center and launch again it resumes installing04:29
NaStYdoGguess I will wait a little longer04:29
Enissayhow to make tree command not to list some folders ? print just their names and not their content04:34
Enissayhttp://linux.die.net/man/1/tree04:34
expungeEnissay: -I04:35
EnissayOh, I tried it, I tought it was a lowercase L xD04:36
expungeI think I'd just use 'find'04:36
expungeand | egrep -iv 'foo'04:36
Enissayexpunge, but it skips the whole folder... I want it to print only the name not the content04:38
expungeEnissay: do what now?04:39
Enissaysame question: How to print some folder's name and not it's content04:40
Enissayexpunge, http://pastebin.com/xn3VVJnN04:41
stiv2k_is it possible to wake my computer up when someone sends a print job to the printer thats connected to it04:42
Enissayfor example I want the full tree of this, excpet folder C, I want only the name, don't print the content04:42
stiv2k_?04:42
wafflejockEnissay: perhaps you want sudo apt-get install tree04:42
wafflejocktree -d04:42
wafflejockprints only directories in a tree in the command prompt04:42
Enissaywafflejock, I'm already using tree xD04:43
Enissayagain, I want to list all content of a folder (A in teh example) but some sub-folders, I only want it to output the name, NO content04:44
Enissayhttp://pastebin.com/xn3VVJnN04:44
wafflejockstiv2k_: don't think so you can wake on lan by sending a magic packet then tell it to print04:44
wafflejockEnissay: not even sub folders04:44
EnissaySorry, If not clear xD04:44
wafflejockEnissay: so you want to control the depth it shows?04:44
BeldarNaStYdoG, What release is this? Is your net speed slow?04:45
wafflejockEnissay: the man page says -L limits the depth04:45
Enissayonly for some folders I want it to print their name only04:45
EnissayFor the rest of the subfolders I want everything04:45
wafflejockEnissay: check out, man tree, it's got all your options there04:45
stiv2k_wafflejock: why cant the magic packet be the print command04:46
EnissayI came from there when got stuck xD04:46
expunge'cause print commands are print commands04:46
wafflejockstiv2k_: yeah different messages for different things04:47
expungeEnissay: you want the first level of dirs/files only?04:47
expungebut if you wanted to04:48
wafflejocktree -L 2 -d04:48
expungeyou could make an executable on the remote computer that issues the print command04:48
expungewith the same name04:48
expungeand have it send a wakeup command and then the original print command04:48
Enissayexpunge, I want everything EXCEPT for some folders, I want the first level only04:51
expungeEnissay: as wafflejock said, -L04:52
expungebut I'd use find A -maxdepth 104:52
wafflejockyeah find should work too04:53
wafflejockfind has tons of options I always have to use the man page on that one though04:53
wafflejocker bropages04:53
Enissayexport, the -L is applied on all folders, I want it applied on SOME folders only04:54
wafflejockEnissay: I don't really see what problem you're trying to solve if you want to remove some parts from the output you can just pipe it to a file and edit it really, what's the goal?04:55
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Enissaywafflejock, It's printed in the console in colors, and I do want to take a screenshot with colors lol04:56
Enissayor is there a way to send that back to the console after edits to print it with colors ?04:57
Enissaywell, it would be great if there's a way :)04:57
wafflejockEnissay: don't think so really.... but seems like you'd want to output the data then use something else to make a nice visual of it though I'm not sure of anything off hand04:57
EnissayWell,it's okay, I just was asking in case someone knows a way :)04:58
wafflejockEnissay: actually there's some HTML output option04:59
wafflejocknever tried it though04:59
Enissayhmm, good finding, it could be interesting indeed04:59
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expungeyou should really just use find05:01
expungetree -n05:01
wafflejockah yeah looks like the HTML output is a bit broken at least in what I just tried05:03
wafflejockdoesn't add <br/> tags in all the right places05:03
wafflejockotherwise pretty cool05:03
wafflejockhtml output hacked in 1998 it says :P05:03
Psil0Cybini have ubuntu 12.04 LTS kernel 3.2.0-67 ubuntu randomly crashes how can i test an upstream kernel05:04
expungeit would probably be awful if it were hacked this year, too05:04
Psil0Cybinor try a newer kernel version05:04
wafflejockexpunge: possibly... this is something I could probably fix though honestly.... going to grab the source and check it out for giggles05:05
wafflejock449 lines of C it doesn't look too crazy though some indentation problems05:09
wafflejockfor the html.c part of tree source that is05:09
expungeof C? Sheesh05:10
expungesome people use C just 'cause they can =)05:10
wafflejockah I like C, this is nostalgic :P05:10
expungeC is fine05:10
expungebut tree is not exactly rocket science05:10
wafflejocktrue05:10
ztanenow this is interesting on 14.04. I have a process that if I do ps aux it hangs on pid 723805:12
ztaneso I go to /proc/723805:12
ztaneand try to find what is the exe but ls hangs...05:12
EnissayPerfect, that's what I needed05:12
Enissaythank you guys05:13
Enissaywafflejock, expunge  ^05:13
wafflejockEnissay: np glad that worked out good to learn something new myself too05:13
Enissay:)05:14
expungeEnissay: what'd you settle on?05:14
ztaneI guess time to reboot computer, oh well05:15
expungeyeah 'bout time for my nightly nap05:15
ztanedamnit05:16
ztaneofc reboot does not work anymore :D05:16
ztanemust be the strangest linxu bug i've ever seen05:16
ztanedamnit sync hangs05:18
Enissayoh, he left05:18
EnissayAnyway, I exported to html then edited it manually05:19
EnissayAlso used -C to force colors05:19
wafflejockEnissay: you have the missing br problem too?05:19
EnissayNo it look sfine05:19
wafflejockhmm k05:19
ztanehmm reboot -f does not work :D05:20
Enissaywafflejock, in chrome at least05:20
wafflejockEnissay: yeah just looks like it's a problem for the second level deep in chrome when I tried05:21
wafflejocktree -H testing -L 2 -d > testfile.html05:21
ztanehmm now how to make the reboot as safe as possible??05:21
ztanepower reset05:21
ztanewhen can't run sync, reboot.. anything05:21
wafflejockztane: think I've just used shutdown -r now05:22
Enissaywafflejock, I didnt had levels that deep in my case, when trid on my home, I see what you men05:22
Enissaymean*05:22
wafflejockztane: looks like reboot just uses shutdown anyhow05:22
wafflejockEnissay: k cool good sanity check05:22
ztanewafflejock: nope, reboot -f -> no work... :D05:24
wafflejockztane: what are you trying to reboot exactly?05:25
ztanemy computer... this computer I am ircing on :D05:26
ztaneor actually where I am sshoing from to the server running irssi05:27
ztane<- as you can see not yet successful05:27
wafflejockztane: was curious if it was AWS or something since they have restart instance thing in the console05:27
wafflejockztane: does it tell you it's going down for a reboot but nothing happens?05:28
AscavasaionI read somewhere that the admin permissions (group) has been phased out, what is the new group used to give a normal user permissions to allow them to mount devices, open network manager, etc.?05:32
ztanewafflejock: yes ofc, I cannot do ps aux, bc it crashes at pid ~723505:35
ztaneand I cannot bring apache to down with service stop, I cannot run sync,05:35
ztaneI cannot reboot by force, nothing :d05:35
atlanx_TJ- : Ok, i have the options in /etc/modprobe.d/nvidiabl.conf and restarted05:36
SunstreamOkay I feel dumb, I want to change my screen suspending time (where the monitor blanks) and rather not have to log in every time it times out, and I cannot remember how to do this in lubuntu05:38
Sunstreamthe screensaver settings I think05:39
Sunstreamits called but I cannot find it05:40
atlanx_TJ- : but moving the brightness under 25% still deactivates the backlight complete05:40
ztanewafflejock: finally, I had to execute reboot syscall myself. though it wasnt what I wanted :P05:44
wafflejockztane: so what did it exactly?05:45
ztaneah I thought I had chosen reboot, but it was just halt (not poweroff)05:45
AscavasaionI read somewhere that the admin permissions (group) has been phased out, what is the new group used to give a normal user permissions to allow them to mount devices, open network manager, change keyboard language, etc.?05:45
wafflejockSunstream: not sure about a GUI way some forum discussing the CLI way here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195777405:46
wafflejockSunstream: ah here's a GUI option too apparently http://chrisrogers.me.uk/blog/stop-lubuntu-turning-off-screen/05:47
Sunstreamreading05:47
wafflejockxfce control though not sure about lxde based one never used lxde myself05:47
SunstreamI really do not get why I cannot control this ... I just want to disable it05:49
wafflejockAscavasaion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221925005:49
SunstreamI understand the use of a screen saver in CRT days but who uses a CRT05:49
wafflejockSunstream: maybe people using lubuntu :)05:49
wafflejockSunstream: really though I use Gnome and they have a relatively fast goto lock screen time too but I don't mind it05:50
SunstreamPerhaps, but I do not want to go to a lock screen if I am the only one who access this computer05:51
wafflejockyeah actually just checked Gnome settings in the Brightness and Lock section you can adjust it05:51
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Thank you, I see I am already a member of sudo group.  I still do not know why I cannot do anything in my GUI :(05:51
wafflejockmine just locks after the screen is off so I just thought it was a lot when I'm on battery mode since it sleeps the screen pretty quick then05:51
wafflejockAscavasaion: I'm in sudo as well you don't get prompted for a password when you try to do these things? not sure about mount but pretty sure network manager bits I've only had various *buntu distros ask for my password05:52
wafflejock?05:52
SunstreamLightlocker?05:53
Ascavasaionwafflejock: I cannot open them... network manager is greyed out, I cannot use Users and Groups, devices do not mount in the GUI filemanager either.05:53
SunstreamOkay I disabled light-loocker05:54
wafflejockAscavasaion: in Ubuntu Gnome at least I hit unlock in the users panel first then it asks for a password05:54
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Unlock is not even an option... I click any b uttons in Users and Groups and nothing happens.05:55
SunstreamOkay I disabled it lets see what happens after 10 minutes05:55
sennnhello05:56
wafflejockhello sennn05:58
wafflejockAscavasaion: not sure have you tried using gksudo to open the programs explicitly as root05:58
wafflejockAscavasaion: never seen that problem but haven't tried Unity in 14.04 myself yet05:59
Ascavasaionwafflejock: gksudo users-admin open the Users and Groups application, but everything is greyed out and the mousepointer is the icon showing that it is busy.06:00
wafflejockAscavasaion: it prompt you for a password before opening at least?06:02
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Nope06:02
wafflejockAscavasaion: not sure sounds like something is borked with gksudo or something06:02
wafflejocksuppose you can try to sudo apt-get install gksudo --reinstall06:02
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Yep, Ubuntu's upgrade programme is broken.06:02
wafflejockAscavasaion: yeah I did an upgrade with Kubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04 and mostly went okay but decided to give Gnome 14.04 a shot anyhow06:03
wafflejockAscavasaion: my server that has xubuntu on it went okay but I don't really use the GUI there, it could be headless I just like the GUI occassionally06:03
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Unable to locate package gksudo :(06:03
wafflejockoh maybe it's in another package06:04
wafflejockAscavasaion: hmm http://askubuntu.com/questions/290810/how-to-add-gksudo-or-what-to-use-instead-in-ubuntu-13-0406:04
wafflejockAscavasaion: looks like maybe in gksu but some talk of it being pulled in 13.04 in favor of just using sudo not sure about that06:04
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Each time I do someone on Ubuntu it stuffs up.06:05
Ascavasaionsomeone-something06:05
Ascavasaionhehehe06:05
wafflejockAscavasaion: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default06:06
wafflejockyeah change can be painful06:06
wafflejockbackups are good and clean installs are always easier06:06
Ascavasaionwafflejock: sucks that Ubuntu's stuff is always breaking.06:06
wafflejockAscavasaion: it's not regularly breaking it's just at upgrade time06:06
wafflejockAscavasaion: I stick to LTS most of the time so I don't upgrade every 6 months06:06
wafflejocknot sure but I feel like rolling release distros would be even scarier with regard to getting breaking changes06:07
wafflejockmaybe not though since there's never a major jump06:07
wafflejockusually I wait like 4 months after an LTS then start trying it out06:08
sennnGCC is going to jump to 5.x,06:08
Ascavasaionwafflejock: You know when you install Ubuntu the first time and it creates one user account?  How do I create one like that?06:09
wafflejockAscavasaion: yeah I'm not sure if you  can run that GUI wizard for adding an admin user after the installer06:10
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Sigh.06:11
wafflejockAscavasaion: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-and-delete-users-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps <-- this might help06:11
TankCAscavasaion: "adduser <username>"06:12
wafflejockstrangely though I'm not in the /etc/sudoers file nor am I in the "admin" group but I don't seem to experience the problem06:12
TankCAnd then afterwards, "usermod -a -G sudo <username>"06:13
AscavasaionTankC: Adding the user is easy, but getting access to stuff is. :(06:13
TankCYou need to add the newly created user to the sudo group06:13
TankCyou can view their groups with "groups <username>"06:13
wafflejockTankC: yeah think Ascavasaion said they were already in sudo06:13
wafflejockgroups with no arg shows current user groups too06:14
AscavasaionGoing to reboot.06:14
ubunthow to know that ram memory model in my pc?06:15
wafflejockthe digital ocean write ups on Linux things are pretty nice06:15
TankCubunt: Open your PC up and look06:15
wafflejockubunt: sudo lshw06:15
wafflejockubunt: look for the memory section06:16
wafflejockfree -m will tell you in megs how much is used in general06:16
wafflejockbut lshw gives lots of gory details on the hardware itself06:16
TankCVery cool.. I didn't realize it was possible to view RAM vendor info06:17
wafflejockyea tons of stuff in there06:17
TankCAlthough it looks like it lists the manufacturer of the semiconductor and not the actual vendor itself06:18
wafflejockyeah not sure what vendor actually packages/sells the RAM in my machine says it's Samsung stuff06:18
wafflejockdon't think Samsung sells the whole chips though06:19
SthNotTakenRunning Ubuntu12.04. PHP cannot write/upload file in folder because of permissions (I believe). I don't want to change permissions to 770, I'd rather change how PHP runs (perhaps groups?) so PHP can upload/write and read files. Is there a simpleton guide on how to do this?06:19
wafflejocknot that I've seen06:19
wafflejocker the whole package rather06:19
SthNotTakenSamsung sells RAM06:19
wafflejockSthNotTaken: ah wasn't aware of that, know my HDD is Samsung branded06:21
SthNotTakenI just broke my '5' key typing something to you. This is going to ruin my day.06:22
wafflejockSthNotTaken: there's a write up with some people discussing it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91015506:22
SthNotTakenThat on top of my existing permissions problem06:22
SthNotTakenOh, this is perfect06:22
wafflejockSthNotTaken: keyboard keys?06:22
SthNotTakenNow I just have one problem06:22
SthNotTakenThanks wafflejock! (laptop keyboard)06:22
wafflejockI mean laptop keyboard rather06:22
wafflejockyeah06:22
SthNotTakenI jammed it back in, and now it's not even.06:22
SthNotTakenI'm an idiot06:23
wafflejockthose used to bust on me all the time on the old dells06:23
SthNotTakenNow it's angled strangely.06:23
wafflejockI've got some high end keyboard now but pricey (Das Keyboard)06:23
wafflejockit's nice06:23
SthNotTakenDEFINE FIVE, 506:23
SthNotTakenand I'm good to go06:23
wafflejockhehe06:23
aeropauseIslam: The Religion Of Peace06:27
ubunti put sudo dmidecode --type memory for know the model ram but don't is the name, how to?06:28
SthNotTakenin trying to fix it, now I seem to have lost completely '5' capability06:28
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sloofSo..building a vanilla kernel with a .config from 14.04.  Any reason why so much disk space is chewed during the build process? Like 15G06:35
YevgenyWhat's the easiest way automatically login to a switch and send bunch of commands to it?06:37
TankCYevgeny: over ssh?06:37
sloofYevgeny: rancid?  or use expect directly06:37
Loshkisloof: No idea. But while it's running, do a sudo du -x | sort -rn > /tmp/du.out and see if you can see where the space is going.06:38
Ascavasaionwafflejock: I think I figured out the problem... I changed from lxdm to gdm and everything seems okay now.06:39
wafflejockAscavasaion: ah nice06:41
sloofLooks like drivers/06:41
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Must say that it makes no sense to me though.06:41
wafflejockAscavasaion: well the *dm parts are for the login/lock screen don't now much about them aside from that though06:41
wafflejockAscavasaion: lightdm kdm gdm etc.06:42
helmut_hi06:44
Ascavasaionwafflejock: Yep... weird.06:44
wafflejocksloof: you can check out ncdu as well it's nice for visualization the space used in some folder06:46
wafflejocksloof: just did some googling it looks like that's pretty typical size needed for building the kernel, never tried myself06:49
SthNotTakenThis was suposed to be my php day, now it has turned into Ubuntu day.06:49
sloofwafflejock: ok then.  Last time I compiled a kernel was in 2004-2005.  I guess a lot has changed.  15G for a build seems like alot.06:52
sloofI haven't trimmed much ouch of the Ubuntu stock .config so almost every module is probably getting build.06:53
YevgenyTankC: it's over ssh06:55
Yevgenysloof: I tried expect but it's a bit confusing, do you know any easy guides?06:57
wafflejocksloof: yeah just opened some articles about it and says 30GB for some of the 2.6 builds06:57
sloofwafflejock: I remember building the 2.6 kernels.  COuldn't have been that much.  I don't think I have that much to spare back then06:57
wafflejockSthNotTaken: bummer sometimes that happens I've got a webdev video I put together if you're interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA06:58
TankCYevgeny: I'd probably use fabric (http://www.fabfile.org/)06:58
sloofYevgeny: Try rancid06:58
SthNotTakenwish I saw this a long time ago, wafflejock06:58
sloof"2.1G    /lib/modules/3.14.17"  wut!06:59
Yevgenysloof: I tried rancid also, but having alot of problems configuring cloginrc06:59
Yevgenysloof: do you use it?06:59
sloofYevgeny: What kind of switch?06:59
SthNotTakenI like how you actually have an index there. Very cool. You go over installing NodeJS? Nice content.06:59
Yevgenysloof: Hp Procurve and Cisco different cisco switches06:59
SthNotTakenAhh, you go over the entire environment. Everything to start up. That's very cool06:59
wafflejockSthNotTaken: thanks yeah I only briefly touch on everything just getting it setup06:59
SthNotTakenIt took me about 2 weeks to discover NetBeans... chasing commas/quotes wasn't fun.07:00
wafflejockSthNotTaken: some peope complain about the length but I tried to cut it down as much as I could and like you said made a table of contents of sorts07:00
sloofYevgeny: rancid is probably the way to go for the Ciscos.  I think there is some hp rancid tool but I've never used it07:00
SthNotTakenI stuck with whatever #DigitalOcean had. Somtimes had to guess. Sadly, I understand so little I have to write down everything I do incase I need to wipe, otherwise I'd be lost07:01
wafflejockSthNotTaken: I only really use node for doing build tasks so far still using PHP/Apache for my backend stuff07:01
wafflejockSthNotTaken: yeah I made this video in part to help myself too07:01
akaulnot sure if it's the right forum.. but how do I enable ssh to have both authentication method password as well as public key07:02
wafflejockit's a guide for some of the stuff.... wish I had done one for postfix too but I'm still learning the ropes on that07:02
SthNotTakenwafflejock: Submit this to reddit.com/r/webdev or sth. The only reason I'm doing what I"m doing now is because I had some guides for this path, but I wish I could have taken others.07:02
sloof"Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.14.17 x86_64)"  <- nice07:02
BeldarSthNotTaken, We wish more here coming for help documented. ;)07:02
wafflejockSthNotTaken: if you don't mind go ahead and do it for me I don't reddit07:02
wafflejockfrom what I've seen of others on reddit it's another addiction I don't have time for :) so I've avoided it07:03
SthNotTakenSmart, but this is worth sharing07:04
Yevgenysloof: I thought why use rancid or other program when I can just send a config file to the devices, the only problem is HOW to automatically login to the devices and send the file07:04
Yevgenysloof: config file = a bunch of commands07:05
sloofI can't say for HP but you're best bet is to login and instruct the device to grab the config from TFTP07:05
Yevgenysloof: okej, but I don't want to erase the old config file, just want send commands to backup the config07:06
sloofAlso...I;ve been away from cisco for a while.  I don't know if you can send the file and then tell the Cisco to interpret the file in some way.  Juniper makes it easy.  SCP it.  "load file..."07:06
sloofRANCID then07:06
sloofIt's what it was made for07:06
Yevgenyokej07:07
Yevgenysloof: I haven't done anything like this before but I know how cisco works, if I do it manually then I just: ssh to the switch, type in username and pass, and then just type 'copy run start tftp:ip.adress' that's ALL I want to do pretty much but it has to be automatically07:08
YevgenyTankC: have u used fabric urself?=)07:09
Sunstreamyay i turned off the locker07:12
wafflejockSunstream: nice what worked?07:14
TJ-Yevgeny: 'expect'07:15
josmala_Is there an easy way to create an "All work no play account" in ubuntu? I really could use the separation of play and work to different accounts.07:15
wafflejockjosmala_: what do you mean by that exactly? what is play to you?07:16
Sunstreamlike you have that Gnome light lock wafflejock, in lubuntu it is called Light Locker Settings07:16
wafflejockSunstream: ah cool so there was a LXDE GUI for it?07:17
josmala_I mean that I could simply have one account in which I can set what applications and what websites are blocked on other account.07:17
YevgenyTJ: okej07:17
bipul /join ##linux07:17
YevgenyTJ-: Trying to understand expect =)07:17
wafflejockjosmala_: not sure about that you could certainly modify the permissions for a user in terms of execution so other users can't run certain things but regarding the websites you might like this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stayfocusd/laankejkbhbdhmipfmgcngdelahlfoji?hl=en07:18
Beldarjosmala_, All possible but a click and go gui is all.07:18
Beldarnot*07:18
TJ-Yevgeny: It's pretty straightforward - remember it was designed for dial-up modem services.07:19
TJ-josmala_: Sounds like you need an account inside a chroot07:19
TJ-josmala_: The other alternative would be a user-specific apparmor profile07:20
leeyaahello07:21
leeyaahow to apply only security updates ?07:21
Sunstreamyes It is in Preferences -> Light Locker Settings at the bottom half there is a on off option in the area that says LOCKING in Enable light-locker turn that off,07:21
wafflejockleeyaa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194/how-can-i-install-just-security-updates-from-the-command-line07:22
YevgenyTJ-: Well gonna try it again :)07:22
Sunstreamwafflejock, I am happier now based on what you said, i saw that similar option and it was the correct one07:22
leeyaawafflejock: are you sure unattended-upgrade is the right way? what about changing sources.list07:22
TJ-leeyaa: Use the "unattended-upgrades" package07:22
leeyaaTJ-: and this is official recommended way right ?07:22
TJ-leeyaa: "This package can download and install security upgrades automatically and unattended, taking care to only install packages from the configured APT source, and checking for dpkg prompts about configuration file changes."07:24
leeyaaTJ-:  i understand, but it is official and can be used on critical systems ?07:24
fishspongehello! because my second HDD failed, I've replaced it and now run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - so in order for it to boot off the 2nd HDD, is there any other command I need to use?07:25
TJ-leeyaa: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades07:25
leeyaathanks  TJ-07:25
wafflejockleeyaa: this appears to be a fairly accepted way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates07:26
leeyaawafflejock: yeah it seems so, just never trusted automatic ways07:26
wafflejockleeyaa: yeah I haven't done this myself but it is compelling07:26
TJ-leeyaa: You can configure it in 'manual' mode and simply do "sudo unattended-upgrades" as you wish07:26
wafflejockjust thinking about how I can auto backup before having this run on aws07:27
leeyaawafflejock: i have multiple xen hosts with 50-80 vms each. im thinking about the same, how to backup whatever it updates07:27
TJ-leeyaa: thats what snapshots are for07:28
leeyaaTJ-: i dont have lvm on all xens07:28
leeyaasome are pretty old07:28
leeyaai mean old setup, without lvm07:28
leeyaaits 12.04 and we had no lvm at that time07:28
TJ-leeyaa: device-mapper snapshots of the underlying block devices then07:29
leeyaaTJ-: so how am i going to backup only stuff that are updated on a server that has no lvm ? :)07:30
leeyaadont apt have some revert thingy ?07:30
Zadikhi07:31
HybridHi, I don't really know where to ask this but I have a network problem I can't solve (iptables isn't really my taste) ...07:31
wafflejockTJ-: are snapshots different from dding a device in that you get differential incremental backups?07:31
TJ-wafflejock: snapshots are COW images07:32
HybridI have a very simple router I did with a linux box to isolate a subnet and give hosts on this subnet access to the Internet07:32
fishspongehello! because my second HDD failed, I've replaced it and now run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - so in order for it to boot off the 2nd HDD, is there any other command I need to use?07:33
HybridI only want those machines to access the Internet and not the network on which my router is and I don't know how to forbid routing on this lan for traffic coming from this private subnet .... don't know if I'm clear ...07:33
tortibHello everyone.  I wanted to know if I could get some assistance on how to deny all packets being sent outbound on interface ppp0 and only allow web traffic through.  I have my iptable rules listed here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8112187/  but it doesn't seem to be working properly.07:33
tortibIf I connect to the VPN it still allows me to connect to other ports.07:33
TJ-tortib: something like "iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -i ppp0 -p tcp -m tcp --dest-port 80 -j ACCEPT" "iptables -I OUTPUT 2 -i ppp0 -j REJECT"07:36
tortibwhat does -i OUTPUT 1 and 2 do?07:36
TJ-fishsponge: You've not given sufficient information. What is on /dev/sdb - is it a new empty disk, of so, where is GRUB and the OS - because that's where grub should be installed07:37
TJ-tortib: "insert" rules at position 1 and 2. You want the ACCEPT before the REJECT07:37
tortibit says it's a bad argument07:38
tortiboh -I07:38
tortibnot -A07:38
tortibahh07:38
tortibTJ-: that didn't do it :(07:39
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tortibTJ-: any other suggestions?07:42
TJ-tortib: Sorry, I gave you the wrong command... the "-i ppp0" should be "-o ppp0" "-i" is the input interface, "-o" the output interface!07:42
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tortibTJ-: yeah that's how I have it set, no worries.07:43
tortibTJ-: but it still didn't block07:43
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TJ-tortib: Hang on, you're trying to block the forwarded packets - you'll need to do this in the FORWARD table, not OUTPUT07:43
tortiboh07:43
tortibTJ-: how do I do that?07:43
TJ-tortib: put the rules in the FORWARD chain, not the OUPTUT chain07:44
tortibokay so `iptables -A FORWARD -o ppp+ -j DROP ?07:44
TJ-tortib: You'd be better with REJECT rather than DROP, so the clients get told. DROP is more appropriate for unsolicited incoming connections from the Internet that you don't want to clue in that there is something listening07:45
TJ-tortib: You might want to add a source subnet filter to that, to only block packets from the restricted sub-net itself07:46
tortibso iptables -A FORWARD -o ppp0 -J REJECT?07:46
tortibi tried that rule and it didn't work :(07:47
TJ-tortib: "-A" means append... it gets put after all other rules in the chain. A prior rule that matches will process the packets instead.07:47
tortibso use -I FORWARD 2 ?07:48
TJ-tortib: your pastebin shows a rules already there: "-A FORWARD -i eth0 -j ACCEPT"07:48
fishspongeTJ-, sdb has the same data which is on sda... it's all RAID-1. So when sda fails, I will need to re-RAID it all, which means I'll need to boot up off sdb... so I've run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - and to boot up from sdb, do I need to run any other command?07:48
TJ-tortib: "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -o ppp+ -p tcp -m tcp --dest-port 80 -j ACCEPT" "iptables -I FORWARD 2 -o ppp+ -j REJECT"07:49
tortibokay the REJECT now works07:49
tortibi moved the FORWARD rule for eth0 below it07:49
tortibbut now I can't browse the web :\07:49
TJ-fishsponge:  Ahhh, a RAID-1.... are sda and sdb whole-disk mirrors? You've mirrored the partition table already?07:50
TJ-tortib: Yes, that's working :) I said earlier, you may want to have the REJECT rule filter on the sub-net you're trying to restrict, with "-s a.b.c.d/24" for example07:51
fishspongeyes, I have mirrored all of them, but grub is only installed on sda... so I've already run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - but do I need to run any other command, so it definitely boots from sdb ??07:51
fishspongeTJ-, ^^07:51
TJ-fishsponge: You're good then :)07:51
TJ-fishsponge: Try it though... just change the boot order in firmware so sdb gets read first07:52
fishspongeOK... but because i've already run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - do I need to run any other command??07:52
fishspongeTJ-, ^^07:52
TJ-fishsponge: ** You're good then :) **07:53
tortibTJ-: is this correct? -A FORWARD -p tcp -m tcp -s 192.168.0.0/24 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT07:53
fishspongeso I definitely don't have to run any other command? correct?07:53
TJ-tortib: That looks OK07:53
fishspongeTJ-, ^^07:53
tortibTJ-: it isn't working :(07:53
fishspongeTJ-, so I definitely don't have to run any other command? correct?07:55
fishspongeTJ-, so I definitely don't have to run any other command? correct?08:00
fishspongeTJ-, ^^08:00
Deepu143hi can any one help me my usb drive showing as read only mode08:08
Deepu143i made drive as mint bottable after that i am trying to format it08:08
Deepu143after formating by using fdisk evrey thing not able to copy anything08:09
Deepu143how to fix this issue08:09
k1l_see "dmesg" after you plugged the usb drive into the usb port.  that sounds like the usb drive is going dead08:10
geirhaDeepu143: fdisk doesn't do formatting, it only does partitioning. Formatting has to be done afterwards.08:10
Deepu143ya mkfs i did format08:11
Deepu143but still it showing the same format08:11
Deepu143destination readonly08:11
Deepu143error08:11
geirhaDeepu143: And which filesystem did you use? ext4?08:11
Deepu143fat08:11
Deepu143mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb08:11
Deepu143i did this way08:12
geirhaDeepu143: Ok, and does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?08:12
Deepu143but its usb drive rite08:13
Deepu143it wont be der08:13
Deepu143i think08:13
Deepu143usb pendrive08:13
geirhathat's why I'm asking08:13
k1l_you put the filesystem plain on the device? not to sdb1? and again: what does dmesg tell about the drive08:14
Deepu143it shwoing write protector is off08:15
Deepu143here is my dmesg output http://pastebin.com/hFLbp40e08:16
geirhaDeepu143: and when it is mounted, what does the line look like in mount output (or /proc/mounts)08:18
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tortibcan someone help me with iptables?  I'm trying to allow port 80 and 443 through my ppp interface and it's not working.  (outbound traffic is being blocked but I can't reach port 80 or 443 outbound) here are my rules: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8112489/08:23
atlanx_i tried now   smartdimmer08:28
Deepu143/dev/sdb1 on /media/pradeep/USB Stick type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)08:28
Deepu143it showing some thing like this08:28
atlanx_same result - if i set   sudo smart dimmer -s 15   the backlight goes off complete08:29
gryphontortib, does it work if turn iptables off?08:31
poplwin 2108:31
TJ-tortib: Ahh, you've got nat table POSTROUTING rules for masquerading, so the source subnet in the filter table's FORWARD rules won't match08:31
TJ-tortib: With the nat as well you need to REJECT in the nat table, POSTROUTING chain, using the same basic procedure as you've got for the FORWARD chain of the filter table08:32
geirhaDeepu143: so the user with uid 1000 should have write access to it08:32
Deepu143then when i am creating any text file it showing remote drive is having read only08:32
tortibTJ-: I'm not following you can you give an example?08:33
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tortibTJ-: the outbound is being blocked with -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j REJECT08:34
tortibTJ-: i'm just trying to allow outbound ports now08:34
geirhaDeepu143: What is the output of this run in a terminal exactly?   touch "/media/pradeep/USB Stick/testfile.txt"08:34
drewjogeirha, hopefully nothing.08:35
samgoodyMy system does not log anything. kern.log, auth.log etc are perpetually blank, and the messages folder does not exist.08:35
samgoodyI realize I could create the messages folder, but am trying to figure out how to enable logging, so far with no luck at all.08:36
TJ-tortib: I think this is close to what you need: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8112539/08:36
geirhasamgoody: is the syslog daemon running?08:37
drewjosamgoody, !logging08:37
drewjo!logging08:37
drewjo!log08:37
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.08:37
samgoodyHave read a tremendous amount, and am not finding anything useful. rsyslog is running.08:37
filip_Hey guys, i'm using Lubuntu 14.04. I just wanted to know, is there any cross platform internet cafe software which i can use on my Lubuntu?08:38
filip_Just to make it clear, i want to control my Windows 7 pc via my Lubuntu laptop using internet cafe software.08:38
filip_How do i do this? Which software should i use? Is there anyway i can do it wirelessly?08:38
samgoodysyslog doesnt exist, only rsyslog. Thought that was standard on Ubuntu08:39
k1l_filip_: internet cafe software?08:39
JonJI am having some issues accessing a luks encrypted lvm on my computer. I had a cpu malfunction, and there has been some time since I last accessed the drives. Now all I am getting is that the device is not a valid luks device, and fsck will not do a check on the partitions because it is not a valid ext4 partition table on it08:39
geirhasamgoody: tail -n +1 /etc/rsyslog.conf /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf   # maybe it's not configured to log anything..?08:39
samgoodyI tried reading the conf file, and admit to it not being fully understood08:40
tortibTJ-: hmm i get an error that says line 19 failed08:40
tortibwhich is the "COMMIT" line08:40
samgoodyHaven't changed the defaults - what do I look for among all that to see that it should be logging?08:41
TJ-tortib: I didn't test it, you'll need to check the POSTROUTING rules I wrote in08:41
geirhasamgoody: pastebin the output of that tail command then08:41
tortibTJ-: it wouldn't be a prerouting rule?08:41
filip_Yes, something like SmartLaunch. You can see it here: http://www.smartlaunch.com/08:41
tortibTJ-: I don't know what to check for.08:41
TJ-tortib: Look at the changes I made in the nat table's POSTROUTING rules... only masquerading if the --dport and -s subnet matches, otherwise doing a REJECT08:42
tortibTJ-: yes I understand that08:42
samgoodyhttp://pastebin.com/yygm8bzU08:42
samgoodyThanks08:42
tortibTJ-: I just don't understand why it's saying the commit portion of iptables-save is giving an error08:42
tortiber iptables-restore even08:43
TJ-tortib: because a rule before it is bad08:43
atlanx_TJ-: the mimimum value is   sudo smartdimmer -s 19   everything under it deactivates the display08:43
geirhasamgoody: apart from the postfix.conf there, that's pretty much default configuration, so it should really be logging to /var/log/auth.log and similar08:44
TJ-atlanx_: Is it working now to correctly dim the display?08:44
samgoodyThats what I figured - I havent changed anything there.08:44
samgoodyBut am running the system for close to a year.08:44
tortibTJ-: I understand that as well I don't understand WHICH rule before it is bad, I think it's one of the rules you provided...but I don't know the correct syntax.08:45
geirhais /var or /var/log a separate filesystem from / ?08:45
TJ-tortib: the log tells us what is wrong, see "tail /var/log/kern.log"08:45
samgoodyAnd all the logfiles are blank.08:45
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TJ-tortib: in this case I see "x_tables: ip_tables: REJECT target: only valid in filter table, not nat" ... so can't use REJECT ... need to find another option08:45
samgoodyAnd we just had a crash, and need the logfiles, so its time to deal with it seriously, Alos, suddenly mail messages have started not arriving, seemingly at random. mail.log is similarly empty08:46
k1l_filip_: you can setup a "kiosk" system to use that as a internet cafe desktop.but i am not aware of a software that lets you use windows  as a internet cafe system from the lubuntu base08:46
tortibTJ-: will DROP work?08:47
samgoodyFor starters, should I create the messages folder?08:47
geirhasamgoody: could you run  tail -F /var/log/auth.log  in one terminal, and do    sudo echo hi   in another,  just to see if the log lines show up but then get wiped by some other process08:47
tortibTJ-: nope DROP doesn't work either :(08:48
atlanx_TJ- : no, still not.   I can dim with the FN Keys but still the problem - the display goes off when i go down to much08:48
geirhasamgoody: there's no messages directory by default, and the default configuration does not log to messages08:48
drewjoI'm running windows08:48
drewjoI am experiencing a bug08:48
drewjothe bug is I'm not running ubuntu08:48
drewjo:(08:48
atlanx_i looked around with google but i found no one who has this problem :(08:49
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geirhadrewjo: that's bug #108:49
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samgoodyran the echo hi, and it did NOT show up in the first terminal window08:49
drewjoI have to wait until I get my internet back before I can download ubuntu :P08:49
TJ-tortib: No, REJECT and DROP aren't valid in POSTROUTING. Try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8112594/08:49
TJ-atlanx_: Too long since I worked with smartdimmer to be able to help you much, I'm afraid08:50
geirhasamgoody: with sudo, right? otherwise it won't show up in auth log08:50
samgoodyRan both commands with sudo08:50
tortibTJ-: that blocked all traffic but I'm still not able to connect to port 80 outbound08:50
drewjo!firewall08:51
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo08:51
atlanx_i only tried with smart dimmer because nothing other is working until now - so i installed 10 min before the smart dimmer - but not helping too08:51
geirhasamgoody: ok. Now back to my previous question, is /var or /var/log a separate filesystem?  i.e. does  df / /var /var/log  show the same line three times?08:51
samgoodyyes it does08:52
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samgoodysame line (/dev/xvda) three times08:52
samgoodySigh* Finally met someone who knows what he is talking about and is willing to help, and I have to go  :(08:53
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samgoodyIf you would be willing to post anymore instructions or help,  or links, would appreciate it. Otherwise will try to catch you another day. Thanks08:54
kevivIs it okay to use the same /home partition for 2 Ubuntu flavors?08:55
Beldarkeviv, You can run them both on the same install.08:56
kevivBeldar: what do you mean by that?08:56
Beldarkeviv, multiple desktop08:57
kevivBeldar: which is different than dual boot?08:57
Beldarkeviv, Maybe your definition of 2 ubuntu flavors might help, here it is desktops.08:57
kevivSorry I mean say, Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Studio08:58
Beldarkeviv, You can have both on a single install08:58
TJ-tortib: Without knowing your internal network "Im not able .." doesn't tell us much - what source host are you trying from, for example? I suspect the problem rule is "-A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o ppp+ -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable" which can be removed08:59
kevivBeldar: Huh. How do I do that?08:59
Beldarkeviv, You install each desktop, one as a main install than sudo apt-get install the other09:00
Beldarprobably best to start with studio09:00
kevivBeldar: So I would sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop (or whatever the package is called) from inside Studio? How do I switch between the two?09:01
Beldarkeviv, The login gui had that option to choose09:02
Beldarhas*09:02
drewjogod python will be the death of me09:02
kevivBeldar: oh OK thanks!09:02
drewjo!python09:02
ubottupython is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python09:02
kevivdrewjo: problem?09:02
drewjothe problem is python09:03
atlanx_TJ- : wuwuwuwuwu i found something nice09:03
kevivdrewjo: are you learning? What's going wrong?09:03
drewjono just something that should be easy isn't09:03
atlanx_TJ- : if i write    sudo su -c "echo 2 >./brightness" than the display dims09:04
kevivdrewjo: ah okay. What is it?09:04
TJ-atlanx_: what directory is that in though?09:04
drewjoI'm trying to make a list of lists09:04
drewjowithout a loop, I don't think you can09:04
atlanx_the /sys/class/backlight/samsung directory where we tried to write before - but not working at this time09:05
kevivdrewjo: you mean without two lines? Yea use a list comprehension09:05
atlanx_TJ- : the /sys/class/backlight/samsung/ directory where we tried to write before - but not working at this time09:05
k1l_drewjo: could you please keep this channel clear for users with actual technical ubuntu problems? we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter09:06
TJ-atlanx_: that looks to be the same as we were doing yesterday, with "echo $VALUE | sudo dd of=/sys/class/backlight/nvdia-backlight/brightness"09:06
TJ-atlanx_: Ahh, the *samsung* controller not the nvidiabl09:06
kevivdrewjo: let's move to #python09:06
atlanx_TJ-: yes we tried to write there yesterday but it didn't work09:07
atlanx_TJ- : but now it works09:07
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atlanx_TJ-: echo 0   smart dimmer says its level: 7509:08
atlanx_TJ-: echo 8   smart dimmer says its level: 10009:08
tortibTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8112702/ this is my updated rules list and I don't have the rule you're talking about09:09
TJ-atlanx_: I think that is due to the steps between the active values09:09
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TJ-tortib: The problem with that set is you've still got the unconditional  "-A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" which, as I read it, means all traffic will be masqueraded, regardless of the prior rules09:12
atlanx_TJ- : But i can't go under 009:14
tortibTJ-: it still blocks all traffic with that rule in there...09:15
TJ-tortib: which rule in particular. You *have* to be specific, I can't mind-read!09:19
tortib[02:13:11]  [TJ-]:: tortib: The problem with that set is you've still got the unconditional  "-A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" which, as I read it, means all traffic will be masqueraded, regardless of the prior rules09:19
TJ-tortib: blocks all traffic from all sources, or just from a particular source?09:20
tortibfrom all sources09:20
tortibwhich is waht I want09:20
tortibnow I want to ALLOW specific ports to be reached outbound09:20
tortiblike 80 and 44309:20
leeyaai am trying to mount a nfs share and it says that rpc.statd isnt running. however it is running http://bpaste.net/show/06c798114c52 how to debug this ?09:21
TJ-tortib: The rules matching on --dport 80 and 443 should do that, they're in front of the other rules09:21
tortibTJ-: they're not though :(09:21
TJ-tortib: Or, some later rule in the filters table is affecting it09:22
tortibhmmm09:22
tortibwhich one would be affecting it?09:22
TJ-tortib: I can't see one, that's the problem! The only other thing I could suspect is we're using "-o ppp+" to allow any ppp interface number. I wonder if that needs to be "-o ppp0" to target a specific interface?09:23
tortibah good thinking let me try it that way09:24
TJ-tortib: You are reloading these rules into the kernel with iptables-load" aren't you?09:24
tortibTJ-: iptables-restore09:24
TJ-tortib: that's the critter, OK  - didn't want to be editing just a text file :D09:24
tortibTJ-: lol nah09:25
TJ-tortib: The only other thing I can suggest is to add some rules in there that go the log target so the kernel log can give some clues as to where the packets are going09:26
TJ-tortib: The rule  "-A POSTROUTING ! -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE" should allow anything other than 192.168.0.0/24 to be NATed correctly09:27
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tortibwell that's the problem then09:27
tortibit's blocking the entire subnet09:27
TJ-tortib: Which subnet? You have 2 listed.09:28
tortibTJ-: even if i disable the -A POSTROUTING ! rule I get no connections to port 80 on the VPN (ppp0_09:28
tortib192.168.0.0/2409:28
TJ-tortib: hang-on, lets go back to square 1. I thought "ppp0" was your Internet interface which you are trying to prevent outgoing packets on.09:29
tortibno09:29
tortibeth0 is09:29
tortibppp0 is the VPN interface09:29
TJ-tortib: So ppp0 is a VPN?09:29
TJ-tortib: OK, lets start again! What do you want to happen (I've got confused now!) ?09:30
tortibTJ-: sorry :(09:30
tortibTJ-: I want to block all outbound traffic on ppp0 and only allow port 80 and 443 outbound on ppp009:30
tortibppp0 has the 192.168.0.0/24 interface09:30
tortiber subnet not interface09:31
TJ-tortib: AHHHH! the way you talked about it, 192.168.0.0/24 was a 2nd local LAN sub-net! You're telling me it is a destination sub-net!?09:31
tortibTJ-: no it's the source subnet, the box has 192.168.0.0/24 configured to be the subnet on ppp009:32
TJ-tortib: so what is tun0? I thought that was the VPN interface?09:33
tortibit is but so is ppp009:33
tortibtwo different types of VPN :)  one is for openvpn the other is for pptpd09:33
TJ-tortib: So you've got 2 VPNs... are they to different targets?09:34
tortibTJ-: lets just focus on 192.168.0.0/24 for now09:34
TJ-tortib: No, lets know the precise config first. I need all information not a snippet09:35
tortibTJ-: 10.8.0.0/24 is the source subnet for tun009:36
TJ-tortib: If tun0 and ppp0 are terminated on the same host for example, that introduces complications09:36
tortibthat's why i'm using -s09:36
leeyaawhats the difference between unattended-upgrade  and  unattended-upgrades09:36
leeyaa?09:36
kevivdrewjo?09:38
drewjohi09:38
TJ-tortib: So you have   host_A->openvpn->10.8.0.0/24->tun0-<-router->ppp0<-192.168.0.0/24<-PPTP<-host_B  ?09:38
kevivdrewjo: Did that help? If not, I'll meet you in #ubuntu-offtopic09:38
drewjook im just eating and was on phone09:39
drewjoty09:39
kevivdrewjo: sure np09:39
kevivdrewjo: if you're not familiar with them, than if you give me a paste in #ububtu-offtopic, I'll translate it to a list comprehension09:40
drewjook ty09:40
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Zadikhow do i know if some writee to me on this ? :P09:48
drewjoZadik, your client will flash09:49
drewjomost clients have an alarm09:49
drewjowhen your nick is mentioned09:49
jorgehow do I know that the custom dns servers I entered are working?09:49
drewjoyou should dig them09:50
drewjojorge09:50
drewjoyou mean you are hosting the dns server or you are using the servers as a client?09:51
Zadikaha09:51
jorgeas client09:51
Zadikany ytought about my idea ?09:51
drewjoeasy, just clear you dns cache09:51
drewjoyour09:51
drewjo!dns09:51
Zadikwww.allismen.blogspott.se a new smartphone 201509:51
ubottuTo set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/dns.html09:51
drewjo!flushdns09:51
Ben64Zadik: don't spam stuff like that here09:52
Zadik!dns09:52
k1l_!ot | Zadik last warning09:52
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ubottuZadik, please see my private message09:52
ZadikBut who should i speak about the ubuntu smartphones about ?09:53
k1l_Zadik: for general chat see the offtopic channel. for specific questions see the #ubuntu-touch channel09:53
h2o64I want too :D09:53
drewjoI'm pan frying vegetables, :) now if I could only have a cup of ubuntu...09:54
loacan't get one things09:58
loamy of chrome was locked.09:59
loaand now i see that version was update O_O09:59
loahow this can happened?09:59
loaah no all is ok.10:00
psalgadop?10:02
jmft2Hello, I'm on 14.04, kernel 3.13.0-34-generic. My keyboard's CapsLock and S keys seem to be bound to each other (so pressing one will have the effect of both).10:12
_2_jhordynpaige:)10:13
TJ-jmft2: Just in the GUI or even at virtual terminals?10:14
jmft2TJ-: Yes, even the virtual terminals.10:15
TJ-jmft2: spilt coffee in the keyboard recently?10:15
jmft2TJ-: Nope. And it was working fine earlier this morning.10:16
TJ-jmft2: I'd test it via the GRUB menu, entering the command line mode and seeing if it exists at the BIOS level. If so, you've got a hardware problem10:16
TJ-jmft2: If not, you know it is something in Linux10:17
TJ-jmft2: That kind of issue has usually turned out to be a failing or dirty keyboard in my experience.10:18
kevivHow do I turn numlock on at startup?10:18
kevivIs there a command I can put in my init.f?10:18
keviv*d10:18
TJ-keviv: That's usually done in the the system firmware settings10:20
kevivTJ-: ah. How do I do that?10:21
TJ-keviv: That's system-specific. Check the options in the system's setup10:21
kevivTJ- oh ok10:22
aeyesiHi anyone have any skill with configuring hostapd? (service starts but no AP can be found) it worked unless ah installed hamachi since i need to acces it behind nat (no chance to configure port forward)10:29
aeyesi:Z10:30
sfixalready asked this on ubuntu-server, but I guess here is apt too:10:31
sfix<sfix> anyone ran into this with a fresh MySQL install on 14.04: [ERROR] Function 'innodb' already exists ?10:31
greenwolfhi10:39
MrObviousHi - I'm looking for an old ( 2002 - 2007 ) distro that used Gnome preferably and had all the codecs installed - any suggestions ?10:44
drewjoMrObvious, Ubuntu10:45
drewjohas third party codecs10:46
MrObviousdrewjo: but the old versions of it are no longer supported so it would be a pain to find codecs for it to install if possible10:48
drewjo?10:48
drewjojust use new ubuntu10:48
BigMike-`is there a way to install a bunch of deb packages in the correct order (as some deps need other deps to be installed first).   I have a folder full of debs to install offline, and some debs require dependancies installed before other packages will install ).10:49
exarkunI paired with and connected to my bluetooth keyboard.  Now how do I make it so I can actually send keystrokes that X will notice?10:54
kevivdrewjo: did you want me to look at that list loop?10:55
drewjokeviv, it's ok, I'm writing it in C now10:55
elichai2https://askubuntu.com/questions/514190/how-can-i-prevent-the-wifi-to-auto-disconnects-when-idle10:56
MrObviousdrewjo: I have my reasons to want an old linux distro :)10:57
drewjook10:57
drewjodon't want to be mainstream?10:57
drewjoand you want security holes?10:57
kevivdrewjo: oh OK. Just to let you know, what you're trying to accomplish ahould be easy in Python10:57
drewjoI guess10:58
max12345hey what do I do if apt-get install 404s?10:58
k1l_MrObvious: there are some gnome2-look alike desktops. no need to run an outdated distro just for that look10:58
k1l_max12345: which ubuntu are you on exactly?10:58
kevivMrObvious: any other reasons?10:59
k1l_max12345: "lsb_release -d" gives the exact version10:59
max1234512.1010:59
k1l_!eolupgrades | max1234510:59
ubottumax12345: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:59
k1l_max12345: your system is out of life some time now. upgrade asap11:00
max12345kk :S11:00
MrObviousk1l_: no not just the look11:00
k1l_max12345: if you dont want to upgrade often use the LTS in first place11:01
MrObviousI just want an old gnome distro that has codecs pre-installed11:01
max12345yep I made a mistake with this one :D11:01
k1l_MrObvious: codecs are a licence issue if they come preinstalled11:02
iscorpionhello friends please tell me why i did not get first point release ? m using 14.04 lts11:03
k1l_iscorpion: what does "lsb_release -d" give you?11:03
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iscorpion14.0411:04
k1l_iscorpion: so run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you got all updates installed11:05
iscorpioni am having issues with duplicate entries in sources list11:05
cenobyteanyone know if regular (~2 min intervals) 100% CPU spikes in /usr/bin/X are to be expected at the moment in 14.10?11:05
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k1l_iscorpion: then pastebin the sources.list please11:05
iscorpionok11:05
k1l_!away > WLM11:05
ubottuWLM, please see my private message11:05
k1l_cenobyte: for 14.10 please see the unstable channel #ubuntu+111:06
cenobytecheers k1l_11:06
* WLM is away: I seemingly need to do some important things, or I'm just getting some chocolate. You'll never know11:11
iscorpion@k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8113460/11:13
iscorpionK1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8113460/11:13
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iscorpionK1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8113468/11:16
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iscorpionK1l_: there?11:21
saju_mi wrote a expect script for ssh http://dpaste.com/1HERMGV  ,  When i run this, it showing logged into 192.168.56.101, but when i press enter, it showing expect timeout, error:http://dpaste.com/1SW1HB411:28
aeyesiSomeone for lil help with networking plz ? :011:32
aeyesi(need4network config help with AP + hamachi for remote acces behind NAT ~)11:32
aeyesiits like a question for google but this is not generic anymoreee >011:33
max12345k1l_ heh well all update instructions are dead ends. A fresh install it is...11:35
max12345thanks for the help...11:35
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saju_mi wrote a expect script for ssh http://dpaste.com/1HERMGV  ,  When i run this, it showing logged into 192.168.56.101, but when i press enter, it showing expect timeout, error:http://dpaste.com/1SW1HB411:44
atlanxwie kann ich ein Skript immer mit root-rechten ausführen?11:45
ikkihi guys I got a problem to activate compiz 3d... compiz setting manager windows appear but it doen t do anything like the cube or anything... any suggest ? thanks11:51
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bazhang!de | atlanx11:51
ubottuatlanx: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!11:51
morning_staris ubuntu-offtopic dissolved?11:52
cfhowlettmorning_star, it is not11:53
ikkihi guys I got a problem to activate compiz 3d... compiz setting manager windows appear but it doen t do anything like the cube or anything... any suggest ? thanks11:54
freaky[t]hi all i got a problem. i installed ubuntu as 2nd operating system next to a windows 8 installation. now i want to go into windows 8 boot menu to choose the recovery option ... how can i do that?11:54
freaky[t]and now if I select windows 8 loader as boot menu option in grub and press f8 it just continues booting11:55
bazhang!fixgrub | freaky[t]11:55
ubottufreaky[t]: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub211:55
ikkiany help for compiz 3d please11:56
cfhowlett!patience | ikki11:56
ubottuikki: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/11:56
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ikkiok no prob guys12:00
ikkiI have ever tried to search on any topics... but strangely I don t find.12:01
freaky[t]bazhang that doesnt help me ... what i want is to boot into the windows bootloader to be able to restore my windows12:01
fishspongehello! because my second HDD failed, I've replaced it and now run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - so in order for it to boot off the 2nd HDD, is there any other command I need to use?12:02
fishspongealso sdb has the same data which is on sda... it's all RAID-1. So when sda fails, I will need to re-RAID it all, which means I'll need to boot up off sdb... so I've run this command -     grub-install /dev/sdb     - and to boot up from sdb, do I need to run any other command?12:02
YevgenyI run # rancid-run -r 'device-name' and it should send the switch config file to my  rancid config directory but only creates an empty file with the name of the switches IP adress :/12:03
ikkidoes any guys ride on ELEMENTARY OS ?12:08
marjinal1stI'm generating a console output with a program. I want to get the parts between two spesific lines, based on content. How can I do it?12:08
bazhang!elementary | ikki12:09
ubottuikki: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.12:09
bazhang /join #elementary ikki12:09
ikkiThere is nothing on the elementary os web site. It s based on ubuntu. So guys if you can t help 'm dead ;-))12:10
MonkeyDustikki  elementary is not supported here12:11
cfhowlettikki, we can't support it.  consider installing ubuntu or another OS that will give you the support you require.12:11
cfhowlett!flavors12:11
ubottu!Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.12:11
MonkeyDustsimiliar != the same12:12
ikkipfff in the past all guys was helping all linux users... today it s a distrib war. Ok 'm gonna search it by myself.12:13
morning_staranyone use powerline?12:15
MonkeyDustmorning_star  you mean network over the light net?12:15
morning_starno i mean the status line called powerline12:15
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YevgenyIn Rancid do I have to create newaliases email addresses or can it work without them?12:25
reshello12:26
resanyone there?12:27
cfhowlettYevgeny, http://shrubbery.net/rancid/    for rancid support12:27
MonkeyDustYevgeny  it says here, Rancid is still in an alpha stage12:28
resI have a question about 14.04 LTS/ Win7 dual boot12:28
cfhowlett!ask | res12:29
ubottures: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:29
MonkeyDustres  let's hear it12:29
YevgenyMonkeyDust: how can it be in alpha when it's like 10 years old :/12:29
resI want to completely hide the GRUB menu, but none of the online suggestions have worked12:29
cfhowlettres, set grub timeout to 012:30
MonkeyDustYevgeny  true, but that's what it says when i want to install it (i discontinues the installation)12:30
YevgenyMonkeyDust: Did you get it to work?12:34
rescfhowlett - I have tried all sorts of settings in grub, including grub timeout=0, etc. also tried 30_os_prober edits -- -- in all cases, either grub disappears without SHIFT working to bring it up when desired, or it briefly appears.12:35
cfhowlettres,  you're dualbooting.  setting grub to 0 = you will NOT be given a choice at boot12:35
MonkeyDustYevgeny  no, i aborted the installation, because the installaer says, it's still in alpha stage12:37
aeyesialpha stages might be buggy12:38
aeyesi:%12:38
cfhowlettaeyesi, *might* --- yes.12:38
rescfhowlett - I yes I'm dual booting, and I DO get a choice if I press the SHIFT key at present. The trouble is, the grub menu also appears for about 1/2 second, even if I don't press SHIFT.12:38
YevgenyMonkeyDust: strange, didn't say it for me:712:38
Yevgeny:/12:38
cfhowlett!grub2 | res12:39
ubottures: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:39
MonkeyDustYevgeny  installed it but can't help, can't even find how to launch rancid12:42
resubottu - Thx, I'll check out that last link esp.-- right now I need to log off and get a better IRQ client (just using Chrome is too barebones)12:42
ubottures: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:42
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ubunturivarivacy12:43
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brontosaurusrexis there some "cp" variation (in system) that would hash check both the original and copied file? (cli)12:47
k1l_brontosaurusrex: look at rsync12:49
brontosaurusrexk1l_: right, so rsync should behave exactly the same in "local" mode as with the "local -client > remote -server" mode?12:52
k1l_yes12:52
k1l_you can specify how to check and what to check. just see the documentation for what you need12:53
MadLambI press the chrome button in my laucher, it blinks for a while and stops blinking, chrome doesnt open. Then i search for chrome in the dash search, and click there, it opens. what might it be?12:56
frendaI can't login at http://discourse.ubuntu.com --> http://i.imgur.com/DqFeKNE.png12:59
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max123456k1l_ hey hey reinstallation went super smooth. I'm always pleasantly surprised by linux in that way. Thanks again for the help :)13:00
MonkeyDustfrenda  interesting link, thnaks, hope you find a solution13:02
Xer_Hello, Where i can find ubuntu support channel for Germany?13:03
DJonesXer_: #ubuntu-de13:03
DJones!de13:03
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!13:03
MonkeyDustXer_  #ubuntu-de13:03
Xer_thanks13:03
sthi13:11
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st_Ycan someone help me with the  nvidia proprietary driver? i have a GF 9600M GT and uninstalled nvidia* packages and installed nvidia-331, nvidia-settings and nvidia-prime again. But now, my nvidia-settings Panel is missing most options (like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/ovYdQ.png )13:15
st_Yso i have no options to activate my second monitor etc.13:15
Xer_You will choose color profile?13:18
st_Yno, my problem is I only have to sections, first is "Application Profiles", the other one is "nvidia-Settings configuration"13:19
st_Yand missing sections like "X Server Configuration" etc13:20
Xer_wine virtualisation?13:20
st_Yhmm, wine is installed, but I think it's not even running13:21
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Xer_ok, wine is good13:21
Xer_wait i thinking13:21
cfhowlettXer_, indeed!13:21
Xer_new install?13:21
st_Ynope13:21
st_Yi just tried to reinstall my nvidia-current driver13:22
Xer_ok13:22
st_Ybecause my 2nd monitor wasn't recognized anymore... but now all the sections are gone from nvidia-settings panel13:22
Xer_Exists password security for your programm13:23
cenobytest_Y: tried using xrandr from command line to activate it?13:23
st_Ynot yet cenobyte13:23
Xer_ok13:23
cenobytest_Y: try "xrandr" on its own to list your monitors13:23
st_Yhmm, the other one isn't even listed... just my laptop display13:24
Xer_ok, check your cable13:24
st_Ybut it's connected to the vga13:24
Xer_sure?13:25
st_Yeverything worked fine before reinstalling the nvidia prop. driver -.-13:25
Xer_ok13:25
Xer_then install the driver13:26
st_Ythe problem with the 2nd monitor is not my problem right now... i'm missing most of the nvidia-settings "sections"13:26
st_Yi did, i actually purged nvidia*13:26
Footy-mobiSo how do I get mkdir */test to work?13:26
st_Ythen reinstalled nvidia-current nvidia-prime and nvidia-settings13:26
hey_joe_question. I am using vhost_alias for home folder site by subdomain.  everything works fine.  however users can also view and list other users /home folders.  what is the best permission set to use on the /home/user/ and /home/user/html folders, so that each user cannot cd into another's home, list files, etc.  BUT, still allow apache2 to serve up the pages with out the "Forbidden" issue?13:27
st_Yi don't know how to fix it... i'm close to reinstalling the OS ^^13:27
st_Yjust to get nvidia back to work properly13:28
MonkeyDusthey_joe_  is that a server? if yes: better ask in #ubuntu-server13:29
hey_joe_MonkeyDust: yes it is13:29
st_Ybtw. i don't get the "nvidia splash" screen anymore, which was shown with every reboot13:31
Footy-mobiHey Joe remove other access and set group to the webserver group probably apache with x rights on user folder and rx on html  should work13:31
st_Yso, i'm not even sure the driver is working properly13:31
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qstrahlWhere does/do the config file/files for startup applications live?13:36
cenobytest_Y: time to backup xorg.conf and restart X?13:37
cenobyte(relevant xkcd: http://xkcd.com/963/)13:37
st_Ycenobyte, sure13:37
cenobytein these kinds of situations I usually just move xorg.conf and restart13:39
st_Ycenobyte, in /etc/X11/ i have no xorg.conf ^^13:39
TimeVirushowdys13:40
st_Yhi13:40
gcgvhjvhttp://tinyurl.com/p5bpscx free soccer tips13:41
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TimeVirushuh?13:42
TimeVirusspam in here even?13:42
TimeVirusbah13:42
GatisWhat's the default Ubunut IRC client?13:43
st_Yxchat I think?13:44
kzooHas anyone seen this issue with USB 3.0/xhci ports?  My devices stop working and the USB controller completely disables itself - http://pastebin.ca/283467113:44
SCHAAP137there is no "default" IRC client in ubuntu, but you can get XChat from the software center13:44
mksterI think it is HexChat Gatis13:44
MonkeyDustor irssi (command line)13:44
st_Ynot in my distro :D13:44
cfhowlettGatis, but you can use whatever client you want13:45
SCHAAP137xchat, hexchat, irssi, weechat13:45
st_Yirssi is the best... but preinstalled is xchat... so13:45
cfhowlett!irc13:45
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines13:45
GatisWhat do you recommend?13:45
MonkeyDustirrsi13:45
GatisIM usin xchat currently13:45
GatisOkay13:45
cfhowlettGatis, the one you're using now??13:45
SCHAAP137hexchat for X11, irssi for terminal13:45
st_Yirssi13:45
mksterI use HexChat13:45
cfhowlettGatis, if it works --- why change?13:45
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YevgenyDo I put the switch commands into the router.db file for Rancid ?13:46
Gatiscfhowlett, i heard xchat is outdated13:46
st_Ycenobyte,  do you have other ideas left ? ^^13:46
aeyesixchat is cool13:46
MonkeyDustGatis  mind the moment you say what client you're using, everybody will try to convince you to use something else13:46
cenobytest_Y: sorry, I'm out of ideas :(13:46
TimeVirushexchat 4 me13:46
GatisXchat works though.13:46
cfhowlettGatis, 1. does it work for  you?  2. why would give  a single rat turd about public opinion about YOUR computer's OS?13:47
SCHAAP137hexchat is a fork of xchat2, itś quite similar13:47
SCHAAP137*it's13:47
t3flongreetings13:47
st_Ycenobyte,  ok, thank you anyway :)13:47
SCHAAP137you could also run mIRC under WINE, lol13:47
cyb3r_w3lf4r3Gatis, I started with HexChat(because Xchat developers stop developing it), but its very fun to use command-line-interface.13:47
st_Yjust use irssi, very simple, fast and lightweight13:48
GatisOkay thanks for tips13:48
qstrahlAny love for weechat?13:48
qstrahlWeechat seems to be absorbing irssi users13:48
GatisNever heard of weechat :)13:49
TimeVirusapt-get install irssi ?13:49
SCHAAP137i like weechat, but i like irssi more13:49
qstrahlSCHAAP137, What's the deal breaker for you?13:49
st_Ynever tried weechat ^^13:49
cenobytequassel-core + quassel-client for me13:50
SCHAAP137dunno, i'm quite used to irssi, and weechat is just... different somehow13:50
SCHAAP137:P13:50
cenobytewhich is Qt, but meh13:50
qstrahlSCHAAP137, Ah, just a comfort thing then?13:50
greeterweechat fan myself. but i guess that's just because i like very complicated things, which weechat can be if you want it to be13:50
TimeViruslike mashed taters13:51
SCHAAP137yeah, i guess so13:51
cyb3r_w3lf4r3on android, i use Yaaic and on gnu/linux i use irssi & Hexchat  :)13:51
GatisAh Ubuntu default is empathy :)13:51
SCHAAP137andchat, irssi, hexchat here13:51
SCHAAP137and mIRC in windoze13:51
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TimeVirusi like the colorfullness of hexchat, if thsts a word :P13:51
cyb3r_w3lf4r3TimeVirus, Yeah !13:52
TimeViruslol13:52
SCHAAP137agreed13:52
TimeVirusgreen and the line is meant for me \o/13:52
MonkeyDustguys, take the irc client discussion #ubuntu-offtopic, please13:52
MonkeyDustto*13:52
t3flonlol you misspelled13:53
Gatis!help13:53
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:53
t3flon!patience13:54
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:54
Guest96169hi i got a problem to install wine on my xubuntu. he said i can download pack. somebody can help me please:)13:54
cfhowlett!wine | Guest96169,13:54
ubottuGuest96169,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu13:54
t3flonGuest96169: Have you checked the repositories?13:54
testKL9Hi. I want to install Lubuntu on UEFI-mode. Do I need a UEFI boot partition AND a /boot-Partition for Lubuntu?13:55
cfhowlett!uefi | testKL913:56
ubottutestKL9: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:56
testKL9ubottu: Thank you. I have read it. But still I don't know if I also need an extra /boot-partition for Lubuntu? Or is one EFI-partition enough?13:59
ubottutestKL9: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:59
ZiberHow do I add a ppa aptitude repository?14:09
Ziberadd-apt-repository, which is what I thought the command was, isn't found. But is the command that two results on google have said.14:10
cfhowlett!ppa | Ziber14:10
ubottuZiber: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:10
Ziber!addppa14:10
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details14:10
ZiberYeah, that command just isn't found.14:11
Ziber-bash: add-apt-repository: command not found14:11
ZiberI'm doing this as root.14:11
Ziberon ubuntu 13.1014:12
cfhowlett!13.1014:12
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) was the 19th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 17th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/saucy14:12
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SCHAAP137Ziber14:12
SCHAAP137try switching around add and apt in the commandname14:12
cfhowlettZiber, dead OS - upgrade to 14.04.114:13
SCHAAP137should be apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository14:13
ZiberNeither works. Tried both.14:13
kilonuxHello, do you know if it is a good idea to upgrade from a faulty 12.04 to 14.04?14:13
cfhowlettZiber, YOUR OS IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED14:13
SCHAAP137then it's a path issue14:13
Zibercfhowlett: I can read lowercase, too.14:13
MonkeyDustZiber  first upgrade, then ask again14:13
cfhowlettkilonux, no reason not to14:13
ZiberAnd lack of support doesn't really bother me.14:14
cfhowlettZiber, can't add ppa to a dead OS14:14
ZiberThe command will literally be just no longer working? How?14:14
SCHAAP137that's what unsupported means14:14
ZiberExplain how.14:14
ZiberLike, technically, how is that possible?14:14
cfhowlettZiber, repos are retired from use.14:14
MonkeyDustZiber not supported means that the sources are no longer available14:14
ZiberMy question is how is a binary, locally installed on my system, rendered inactive?14:15
SCHAAP137it's not the binary, it's what the binary tries to do14:15
SCHAAP137adding a repo that is not in use anymore14:15
cfhowlettZiber, your system is fine.  adding things to your system is no longer supported14:15
ZiberThe command -cant be found-.14:15
ZiberIt's not trying and failing.14:15
ZiberIt's just not found. That, my good sirs, is not the result of an out of date OS.14:16
MonkeyDustZiber  like an old car that still drives, but there are no spare parts for it anymore14:16
SCHAAP137that must be a different issue then, PATH or writing related14:16
kilonuxI am not sure it will work, when i've been trying to update the update-manager crashes,  and when trying to install apps, the dpkg crashes14:16
kilonuxcfhowlett:14:16
ZiberWhich won't necessarily be fixed by an upgrade, so I'll have the same problem.14:16
cfhowlettkilonux, torrent the 14.04.1 and do a clean install then14:16
MonkeyDustZiber  to find out: upgrade, it will make things easier for you14:17
alive4everZiber, you can manually create a ppa configuration in /etc/apt/sources-list.d/ppaname.list. Then fetch the ppa key manually using gpg and add the fetched ppa key to apt-key cache.14:17
ZiberYou people are pissing me offo.14:17
Ziber*off14:17
kilonuxcfhowlett:  yes, but I have no lust in doing all the post-install14:17
ZiberRight, but that doesn't help fix my problem either.14:17
MonkeyDustZiber  or is there a reason you don't want to upgrade?14:17
ZiberUpgrading or not, it doesn't sound like my problem of a potential path issue, will be fixed.14:18
ZiberI want that problem to be fixed.14:18
cfhowlettkilonux, 12.04 is still supported - you need not upgrade until 201714:18
MonkeyDustZiber  first upgrade, then ask again14:18
ZiberYou've said that before.14:18
ZiberAnd it's not actually helpful.14:18
MonkeyDustZiber  you're pissing the channel off14:18
SCHAAP137Ziber, you could try something like: export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:$PATH14:18
SCHAAP137and then retry the command14:18
cfhowlettZiber, End of Life distros are not supported.  NOT.  sorry if that tweaks your meter14:18
tmick12.04  is  good14:19
Anarchicwhy are you even reply to Ziber?14:19
kilonuxcfhowlett: maybe what I need is a doctor, who can read my system and suggest repair14:19
MonkeyDustAnarchic  i agree14:19
ZiberSeems like I have all of that in my path, SCHAAP137.14:19
SCHAAP137ok, weird issue then Ziber, i suggest upgrading to a version that is supported14:20
ZiberYeah, I have those exact ones, actually.14:20
cfhowlettkilonux, I must have missed it --- what is wrong with 12.04???14:20
SCHAAP137using a CD or DVD14:20
tmickQuoexl14:20
tmickHere?14:20
kilonuxcant do updates or installs14:21
dav1dp0101HI! I'm using ubuntu server 14.04LTS. I'm having trouble getting any sound. I am using jack. Does anyone have experience troubleshooting audio input/output problems?14:21
cfhowlettkilonux, sudo apt-get update14:21
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, it's probably related to pulseaudio and jack competing for ALSA14:21
SCHAAP137lemme get a useful URL14:21
anarkhoswafflejock: hi14:21
ZiberWhat's the ubuntu equivalent of centos'/rhel's chkconfig?14:21
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, should I uninstall pulse audio?14:22
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, read this here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#PulseAudio_through_JACK14:22
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, no14:22
MonkeyDustZiber  try fsck14:22
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SCHAAP137although the procedure is written for arch, the same applies for ubuntu14:22
alive4everZiber: update-rc.d14:23
Ziberalive4ever: I know there's a directory /etc/update-rc.d/, is it a command, too?14:23
alive4everJust type it as root. For further information, read http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/update-rc.d.8.html14:24
ZiberAh, thanks.14:24
kilonuxcfhowlett:  sudo apt-get update  works fine14:25
cfhowlettkilonux, what do you "can't do updates or installs"?  details14:25
KL48I want to install Lubuntu with manual partition. Do I need /boot-partition or only EFI-boot-partition? In other words: How do I have to partition the system if I want an encrypted system using LVM/LUKS?14:26
kilonuxcfhowlett: sorry busy , I'll be back later, sorry14:26
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, I'm nervous about sending commands to pulse audio because JACK is up and running, and my connections are apparently all connected, including system:capture to liquid oap and liquidsoap back out to system:playback. But I hear nothing on the headphones. And even when I use various command line tools to play audio, none of them playback into the headphones.14:27
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, go to gnome-control-panel, Sound14:27
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, I also don't have a GUI14:27
SCHAAP137select the Jack outputs for PulseAudio14:27
SCHAAP137ah, ok, no qjackctl?14:28
SCHAAP137challenging14:28
dav1dp0101No I don't have qjackctl. I've been using command lines like jack_connect and jack_lsp, and jackd to start up the server.14:28
dav1dp0101SCHAPP137, No I don't have qjackctl. I've been using command lines like jack_connect and jack_lsp, and jackd to start up the server.14:28
SCHAAP137try: pacmd list-sinks14:29
SCHAAP137to list the PulseAudio sinks14:29
SCHAAP137which one is the active sink?14:29
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, it says: No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.14:29
samthewildonehttp://pastebin.com/PauGrpEk14:30
samthewildonewhy do I get three x86_64 ?14:30
SCHAAP137ok, so there is just ALSA and JACK in your config then?14:30
dav1dp0101SCHAPP137, yes I think I am just running JACK and ALSA. I also have Liquidsoap using JACK as input/output, and shoutcast sending the audio stream to the internet.14:31
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, this looks like a useful resource: http://alsa.opensrc.org/Jack_and_Loopback_device_as_Alsa-to-Jack_bridge14:31
ZiberSo, does ubuntu, zfs and xen play nicely?14:32
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, i just know how to set it up when PulseAudio is involved as well, but i never actually touched the ALSA part14:32
SCHAAP137and pbly, dav1dp0101, the headphones are considered a different output14:33
BenemyLooking for some help with my ubuntu booting14:33
cfhowlett!details | beme14:33
ubottubeme: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)14:34
cfhowlettbenemy ^^^14:34
Benemyok didnt know if i needed to pm someone. My laptop has 2 hdds one with ubuntu installed the other has only files14:34
Benemywhen i go to boot the hdd with only files has to be present or it wont boot14:34
Benemyive formated the 2nd hdd and it is now blank yet it still has to be pluged in for ubuntu to boot14:35
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, I don't know how to check that it understands my headphones. But another clue is that Liquidsoap (my audio stream source) is connected to jack properly, and is outputting the stream to shoutcast, which is sending it to a URL. When I listen to that stream on a remote device, there is silence, just like silence in the headphones. So it may be my Line In has no sound on it. And I will be testing that today too. But it may be JACK or ALSA conf14:36
dav1dp0101ig issues.14:36
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Benemyive checked my boot hdd and ubuntu is installed to it but without that second hdd it wont boot. Ive even tried a different second hdd and nothing. My boot hdd in encrypted.14:37
dyuwhat processes write to /proc/loadvg?14:37
dyuhow to overwrite it?14:37
dyui get an i/o error when i try to pipe stuff into it14:38
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samthewildoneanyone....14:38
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, weird indeed, it might be related to internal mixing on ALSA14:38
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, and the way that JACK connects to an ALSA device14:38
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137 do you know how to monitor internal ALSA mixing from command line?14:38
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound-6.html14:39
SCHAAP1376.2 The Mixer14:39
qstrahlWhere do the config files for "startup applications" live?14:39
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, http://alsa.opensrc.org/Amixer14:39
Benemyim running 14.04 fresh install from usb14:40
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, when I type 'amixer' it returns: Simple mixer control 'IEC958', 0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on]14:42
SCHAAP137just that?14:42
SCHAAP137i get a whole list of stuff dav1dp010114:43
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, yeah just that. But it's a fresh install and these are my only programs running. JACK is the one connecting to and from my program (Liquidsoap). I thought JACK bypassed ALSA somehow. I guess I don't fully understand ALSA.14:44
SCHAAP137as i understood it, there is no bypassing ALSA, but i could be wrong14:45
BenemyIm running 14.04 with 2 hdds. I installed to my 360gb hdd and i can confirm that the boot files on on the root of it. My problem is that without my 250gb hdd aslo in it wont boot. Ive tried different hdds together with the 360gb one and nothing. The weird thing is i formated the 250gb hdd but it still has to be present to boot.14:45
cfhowlett!encryption > Benemy14:45
ubottuBenemy, please see my private message14:45
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, JACK says I have 2 system:playbacks, and 2 system:captures, so I should at least have stereo playback in my ALSA mixer.14:46
dav1dp0101But it only shows a mono playback.14:46
wheatthinBenemy, It sounds like you need to update grub. Make sure only one hard drive has marked bootable partitions with parted -l14:47
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137 Do you think I should set up JACK as my default input/output ports in my asoundrc config file? http://alsa.opensrc.org/Jack_%28plugin%2914:48
SCHAAP137yes14:48
SCHAAP137dav1dp0101, that is what my earlier URL described14:49
SCHAAP137https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=17172914:49
SCHAAP137also here, seems like the same issue14:49
Benemyits saying my 250 is boot flaged but the one i installed to isnt. could i switch the flags with gparted?14:49
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137 but it says that I would do that in order to use ALSA programs (like aplay) and have them routed through Jack. I don't need to do that because i'm not using ALSA programs.14:49
SCHAAP137well, i think it's like kind of "sink"14:50
DrofoShagginsIf I were to create a USB with persistence, then install things like Chrome and Truecrypt, to include their respective PPAs, then shut it down and use dd to turn it back into an ISO file, would it work when burned to DVD?14:50
SCHAAP137any application that is not capable of talking to JACK directly, will talk to ALSA14:50
SCHAAP137which feeds it to JACK14:50
SCHAAP137if you only use jack, i would try setting JACK as default ALSA input/output like described on that page14:51
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, ok, gotcha. Yeah your last link above seems to think that I should do as described: rewrite asoundrc to default to JACK. Also ALSA has a JACK plugin, I should check that it's installed.14:51
SCHAAP137it seems like a logical fix, and there is not much that can break14:52
SCHAAP137cool, curious for the result14:52
linuxboobizhello people.. i have setup a new server. and i have installed xrdp on it. however whenever i try to connect to it i get a grey screen for normal users. when i login as root xfce4 works fine.. works only for root :\14:53
linuxboobizi tried making a new .xsession in /home/myuser but it doesnt work.14:53
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137 ok I'll get to it and let you know the results.14:53
MonkeyDustlinuxboobiz  there's also #ubuntu-server14:53
linuxboobizok. idk that14:53
cfhowlett!server | linuxboobiz14:53
ubottulinuxboobiz: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server14:53
Benemythanx people. Ima try switching the boot flag around and see what happens.14:57
LarsNcan someone point out what it is I'm doing wrong here?15:02
LarsNlars@lynskee:~$ sudo route add -net $PublicAddress netmask 255.255.255.255 gw $VPNGateway dev vpn015:02
LarsNSIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable15:02
LarsNI can ping the VPNGateway address,  So I don't believe it's that network that's unreachable.15:03
MonkeyDustLarsN  first on my mind: the remote machine must allow to be reached or controlled by another computer, that's a setting somewhere15:06
MonkeyDustLarsN  is it a linux - linux connection?15:07
LarsNMonkeyDust: why would that be the case?  I'm just trying to adjust my local routing table.15:07
kilonuxcfhowlett:  example: trying to open bluetooth-settings (i have the icon up right corner) , or the system-settings in the application-menu, never leads anywhere15:07
dav1dp0101Does anyone know if there is a supported package on Aptitude called 'alsa-plugins'? I see it on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins but when I try to 'sudo apt-get install alsa-plugins' I get E: Unable to locate package alsa-plugins. I'm running ubuntu-server 14.04LTS.15:08
LarsNEffectively tere's a host on the internet that white lists access.  Our office is on the whitelist,  so I'm just trying to pipe access to that host through our office VPN15:08
LarsNMonkeyDust: ^15:09
AdAMIMhello ladies15:09
theguy415How to create a time based wallpaper (like the defaul installed one) in ubuntu?15:09
kilonuxcfhowlett:  and every startup gives error messages15:09
kilonux---system start up15:09
kilonuxor wake from suspend15:10
LarsNMonkeyDust: but to answer your question, the remote machine isn't one I control, it is however running linux.15:10
hwhi, i was wondering why the openvpn package doesn't come with an upstart script?15:11
netlarI remember in 13.04 that you could do a Unity search on appication menus, can you still do that?15:12
wheatthinhw, are you sure that it didn't? Or that you possibly hadn't enabled it?15:14
hwwheatthin: what i meant is that it comes with a shell script in /etc/init.d/openvpn but not an upstart script in /etc/init/openvpn15:14
hwi was wondering if the process would be restarted automatically in case the vpn connection dropped (like upstart would do)15:15
wheatthinhw, maybe it has to wait until other hardware is initialized15:15
fribdoes ubuntu 14 properly utilize the speed switching feature (low speed vs. turbo speed) of 4th generation intel cpus?15:16
wheatthinfrib, I would think so with acpi functions.15:16
fribwheatthin, is there a way to verify? my laptop is constantly burning up15:17
wheatthinfrib, I think this might do it   cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "MHz"15:18
wheatthinif the frequency varies, it's switching15:18
BlackthornI run older windows 2003 server and simply can not afford to upgrade to another windows platform. I have loaded a few *nix versions here and there. And I've narrowed it down to Ubuntu server or perhaps centos. For my first install I want to add the dns and radius services. How secure is the ubuntu server after a clean install?15:19
wheatthinfrib, sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep Speed15:21
BlackthornAnd do you know if you can run ubuntu server on Citrix Xen server 6.2.015:21
wheatthinfrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8115047/15:21
wheatthinBlackthorn, you'll have to compare your chipset with the HWCL15:22
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Blackthorneach of my servers run 3-4 win server 2003, and i'm using asus p5vb-c motherboards and intel xeon processors15:24
_shrinewhy win server?15:25
cfhowlett!server | Blackthorn,15:25
ubottuBlackthorn,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server15:25
MonkeyDustBlackthorn  sure you're in the right channel? this is for ubuntu15:25
_shrine^^15:25
wheatthinthat's why he's asking if Ubuntu can run on them.. I told him to check the hardware compadibility checklist15:26
BlackthornYes, i was trying to explain what I am running, and I'm wanting to repalce my win server 2003 servers that are running on top of citirx xen server with ubuntu server edition15:27
wheatthinBlackthorn, most likely, Yes.15:27
fribwheatthin, it says the max is 2400 Mhz as well as the current15:27
fribwheatthin, as I expected15:27
MonkeyDustBlackthorn  ok, type /j #ubuntu-server and ask there15:27
wheatthinBlackthorn, I'm running dual quad xeon server that was supposed to be for win 2003 server.15:27
Blackthornthanks for the link monkey.15:28
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wheatthinfrib, yeah my cpu's are 2.66ghz, so the 2600mhz is at full speed. Boost is 5000? I dunno about that, but I think that might be complete maximum voltage before utter destruction.. I could be wrong :P15:29
Blackthornand the suggestions from everyone else15:30
wheatthinBlackthorn, Nope.. just check your chipsets, and make sure.15:30
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frib wheatthin well my cpu I know is not supposed to run at 2.4ghz always15:30
wheatthinBlackthorn, More than likely, Ubuntu will run just great.15:30
wheatthinfrib, and why wouldn't it? Isn't boost supposed throttle up from normal?15:31
fribwheatthin, yes when under heavy load, not always15:31
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wheatthinfrib, right.. normal being 2.4ghz15:32
dyyexit15:32
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fribwheatthin, oh wait.. my cpu max speed is actually supposed to be 3.5 now that i think about it15:32
wheatthinsee :)15:32
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dw1frib: install indicator-cpufreq and it will scale down when not in use ?15:33
Blackthorni'm having a little difficutly finding where to check the chipsets.. i went to the ubuntu website clicked on hardware. my chipsets are intel bigvy-v (intell 3200 memory controler) and southbridge is intel ich7r15:33
wheatthinyes, it should scale down to normal from the boost, back down to 2.4ghz15:33
wheatthinBlackthorn, you should be fine man.. if you have any doubts, try booting a livedvd15:34
Blackthornkk15:34
BigMike-`is this a genuine ubuntu main repo??   http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/file-roller/15:34
fribdw1, i just realized its not running at max speed15:34
fribdw1, but now i also realize that it won't turbo boost when needed if it thinks this is max speed as according to dmidecode -t processor15:35
dw1BigMike-`: it would appear to be a mirror15:35
fribmy cpu: http://ark.intel.com/products/75117/Intel-Core-i7-4700MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz15:35
poutch__bonjour15:35
dw1frib: im lost, i dont overclock :p15:35
BigMike-`dw1:  Ah....So, apt-get  won't use that repo ?15:35
fribdw1, me neither i think this is a new feature from intel15:36
wheatthindw1, his chipset overclocks on demand15:36
dw1BigMike-`: dont know, it might smartly choose a good mirror for you15:36
wheatthinis that possible that my xeon processors could go up to 5000mhz/5Ghz with the right cooling?15:41
wheatthinMax Speed: 5000 MHz15:42
wheatthinCurrent Speed: 2660 MHz15:42
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, I followed the instructions here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171729 And I get the following error when I try to run jackd: ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode15:43
dav1dp0101And: cannot load driver module alsa15:43
wheatthinfrib, sudo watch -n 1  cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq15:45
wheatthinhmm.. my xeons idle with 2Ghz, and then throttles up to 2.6615:47
fribmine is saying 800k constantly and rarely jumping up to 2.x15:48
wheatthinnice :)15:48
wheatthinfrib, now do something like a compile and see it throttle15:48
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wheatthinfrib, I'm running blender 3d in an animation player, so it throttles a lil on each core randomly15:49
SCHAAP137ok dav1dp0101, then i don't rly know, i would suggesting to revert the changes to ~/.asoundrc15:50
SCHAAP137to restore the earlier setup15:50
SCHAAP137and work again from there15:50
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, yes, I've done that and I'm continuing to troubleshoot. I'm not sure what to do next.15:50
SCHAAP137mhm, me neither, not yet at least15:51
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, ok, well let me know if you think of something. I'm gonna take a break and mull it over.15:53
fribwheatthin, i actually don't have time to tinker with all of this but as long as i know i'm not over-using the cpu then it's fine15:53
anarkhoswhat's the correct way of using the xforcevesa boot code? just "xforcevesa" or "xforcevesa=xforcevesa"? ive seen both suggested. also, should i add the "nomodeset" option as well?15:56
wheatthinfrib, well on your own time :) of course for curiosity sake15:59
wheatthinlol15:59
LinuxTimNeeding help with xubuntu16:02
compdocone can only ask16:02
LinuxTimhow do you move the xubuntu xfce panel to the bottom16:03
kilonuxhello I run : gnome-control-center and get : bus error ( core dumped)  any advice?16:03
somsip:q!16:04
zerowaitstateis there a tool in linux that shows a clear breakdown of memory usage of process trees on the machine? i've used htop, but the memory statistics it shows are not aggregated16:04
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emmahi16:08
_shrinedat emma16:08
emmai search help for install sound card,16:08
_shrinewhat is the issue?16:09
emmai have try to read and type the process to install it but no result16:10
emmaits the sound card tascam us 12216:10
emmathe old16:10
kilonuxsomsip: what does "q!" mean?16:10
zerowaitstatekilonux: he was in the wrong window :) That's the command to stop vim16:12
MonkeyDust:q! means quit and overwrite :)16:13
_shrineI always wq16:13
ActionParsnipMonkeyDust: I thought :q!   was force quit, you need to add 'w' to write16:13
_shrinelol16:14
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Guest82581hey can anyone help me with a kernel compilation error?16:15
emmahi16:15
ActionParsnipGuest82581: probably better in #linux16:15
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anarkhosare you able to find pm-quirks in the repositories?16:18
Guest82581hey can anyone help me with a kernel compilation error?16:19
fribcan anyone recommend a DE that consumes little power?16:20
MonkeyDustActionParsnip  you're 'write'16:20
MonkeyDustfrib  i use lxde in this virtual machine, it's alot faster than unity... or is that not what you mean16:21
fribMonkeyDust, i'm trying to improve battery life16:22
ActionParsnipMonkeyDust: ba-dum!16:22
ActionParsnipfrib: why use a DE at all? Just use Openbox or Fluxbox as standalone WM and ditch the DE :)16:22
fribActionParsnip, I don't know what those are16:23
ActionParsnipfrib: install fluxbox, log off and log in to the fluxbox session16:23
fribok, i can leave my DE intact if i don't like it anyway right16:23
ActionParsnipfrib: you can just log off and log back on to the session you are on nowq16:24
frib4.0 ms/s     126.1        Process        cinnamon --replace <---- this seems to be consuming most of my battery, along iwth firefox16:24
ActionParsnipfrib: you use right click to access apps, super light :)16:24
eeeefrib: try enlightenment, it's very quick16:24
fribActionParsnip, cool i'm going to relog right now16:25
fribeeee, first i'll try fluxbox thx16:25
Guest82581hey can anyone help me with a kernel compilation error?16:26
ActionParsnipGuest82581: ask in #linux16:28
fribis there any way i can have  likea a  quick launch bar in this fluxbox?16:28
fribi can't even open a terminal or find firefox :\16:30
fribhow do you change volume / see battery life in fluxbox?16:32
vominhtry to typing16:35
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AmisHello! I have two Ubuntu 12.04 LTS machines, one at home and one at work. The home computer is accessible from anywhere on the internet however my work computer is not. Currently I can fiddle on my work computer with Teamviewer but is it possible to open up a ssh connection to my home computer then reverse?16:43
Amisreverse it*16:43
MonkeyDustAmis  you can use Remmina, but make sure both pc's are 'visible', that's a setting you have to un/check16:45
SchrodingersScatAmis: I think what you described is fine, look up reverse tunnels, man ssh16:45
AmisMonkeyDust, I can reverse Remmina once the connection is established?16:46
MonkeyDustAmis  lemme try, i use it for my VM16:47
AmisSchrodingersScat, I'm doing that right now but making sure if there is any bumps that could permanently disble my teamviewer connection for the weekend16:47
Amisthere are*16:47
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MonkeyDustAmis  just ssh? that can be done from the terminal16:48
MonkeyDustAmis  reverse ssh doesnt sem to work16:50
AmisI may have missed one key element: I'm trying to forward the X aswell16:50
MonkeyDustAmis  ok, ssh works, now trying -X16:52
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MonkeyDustAmis  Cannot open display, even after DISPLAY=:0.016:53
annoymouseI'm back16:54
annoymouseWhich should I pick for the bootloader installation (https://i.imgur.com/J2JVfLp.jpg)?16:55
annoymouseShit... Didn't mean for the )? To be a part of the link16:56
annoymouseWhoops sorry for the cursing (again)16:56
k1lannoymouse: bootloader got to sit in the first drive that is booted16:56
k1lor do you want a intsall on the usb drive?16:57
annoymousek1l: so same as /?16:57
annoymouseOn the USB drive16:57
hamiltonton 14.04, how can I force the MOTD to be regenerated?16:57
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hamiltontI've update the /etc/update-motd.d scripts, but it's been 5 minutes and I still see the same message16:57
k1lannoymouse: then choose the usb16:57
k1lannoymouse: and then choose the usb in the pc-boot order or list to be booted to boot up ubuntu16:58
annoymouseThe device, or the root partition?16:58
k1ldevice. bootloader got to be sit in the MBR16:58
annoymouseThanks k1l17:01
ZiberWhat's the proper way to mount an nfs share on ubuntu?17:02
AmisI think I found a bit of an insane workaround17:03
AmisI install a VPN server on my home comp then connect to that from my work comp. That way I have a direct connection to my work computer with whatever port forwards I want17:04
ActionParsnipAmis: why not use an SSH tunnel, little easier17:06
Delta706I would like to know if ubuntu supports all usb microphones17:08
tomodachims cd -17:09
o11cHi, I just tried to download Ubuntu, and I got a 403 error17:09
o11chttp://ubuntu.mirrors.pair.com/releases/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso17:10
yourfunworldI love the new Ubuntu desktop17:10
o11c(I did manage to find a working download, just thought you should know)17:10
wafflejocko11c: yeah mirror is probably down17:10
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yourfunworldhi o11c17:11
ZiberI've got a virtual nas appliance running, but I can't seem to mount it to an ubuntu server... any thoughts?17:11
ActionParsnipo1try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/trusty/daily-live/current/17:11
Adam_ActiveStateanyone have links to videos from linux conf in chicago?17:11
wafflejockDelta706: http://www.sal.ksu.edu/faculty/tim/linux_mics.html17:11
Adam_ActiveStateat least the keynote?17:11
ActionParsnipZiber: how have you tried to mount it?17:12
wafflejockAdam_ActiveState: no I'm in Chicago but totally spaced the conference17:12
ActionParsnipZiber: what technology does the NAS use to share the storage with?17:12
ActionParsnipZiber: can you ping the NAS?17:12
ActionParsnipZiber: detaiils......17:12
ZiberActionParsnip: mount <ip>:/path/to/share, mount -t nfs <ip>, a few others17:12
At00micHow do I cloak in my account? I need to ask a person of the staff?17:12
ZiberI can ping the share17:12
ZiberIt's using nfs.17:13
ActionParsnipZiber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Mounts17:13
wafflejockAdam_ActiveState: also looks like they had live streams of the keynotes so perhaps they'll post the recordings soon http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-north-america/program/live-video-stream17:13
trismAt00mic: ask in #freenode17:13
Adam_ActiveStatewafflejock: nothing yet though, eh?17:14
At00micok thank you17:14
Adam_ActiveStateyoutube search it is then...17:14
wafflejockAdam_ActiveState: nope didn't see anything17:14
Zibergetting "wrong fs, bad superblock..." error.17:14
ActionParsnipZiber: have you fsck'd the data?17:15
ActionParsnipZiber: you may need to use a different superblock17:15
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Ziberwell, i'm doing this all via openfiler, i thought it would've set it up however I needed automatically.17:15
Ziberon the appliance itself, it's mounted.17:16
ActionParsnipZiber: you will need to unmount it and fsck it, sounds like the data isnt healthy17:16
Delta706thanks wafflejock17:16
Ziberhm17:17
wafflejockDelta706: yeah basically just YMMV will have to search around a bit once you find one you think you want17:17
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Delta706wafflejock: my interest is in a USB adapter since I am getting a hum when recording which might be due to interference17:19
wafflejockDelta706: yeah definitely I've done some recording and my internal stuff gets lots of system noise17:19
wafflejockDelta706: I've considered a USB mic too since currently I just have a cheap headset and want to do tutorial videos17:20
wafflejockDelta706: but so far haven't bought one yet17:20
trinkbest soccer tips http://tinyurl.com/p5bpscx17:20
Delta706if I post the mp3, could you listen to it, to see if it is interference17:20
wafflejockDelta706: I used Adobe Audition to clean up the audio in my case but it still didn't come out great and was tedious... I'll take a listen and can tell you what I think, not a sound engineer by any means though17:21
Delta706I used audacity and it cleaned it up nicely but I need a live solution17:21
wafflejockDelta706: I actually didn't try with audacity, Audition is good my original capture was just very rough and didn't realize it until I had recorded everything (wasn't using a headset to test the audio)17:22
Delta706just let me post the audio, then I will come back with a download link17:23
wafflejockcool17:23
priuonhello. why would ubuntu actually read and write date when moving it within the same partition?17:27
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ActionParsnippriuon: what is "it"?17:29
priuonActionParsnip: the data17:29
ActionParsnippriuon: your question has no context, so has no meaning17:29
priuonActionParsnip: Files17:29
ActionParsnippriuon: what files?17:29
priuonActionParsnip: I am copying 70GB of files from one folder to another where both folders are on the same partition of the same physical harddrive.17:30
ActionParsnippriuon: ok, much better17:30
ActionParsnippriuon: so are you asking if the creatin dates get updated?17:30
ActionParsnip*creation17:30
priuonActionParsnip: thunar as well as mc actually read the files and apparently write it to another place on the partition. This is a sever failure in procedure.17:30
Delta706wafflejock: go to https://www.sendthisfile.com/hhNce1Wd8liVL7CeW87k2U1y and click on xx.mp3 to download it17:31
priuonActionParsnip: I am asking why ubuntu fails to conform to simple filesystem operation principles.17:31
ActionParsnippriuon: ext4 is standardized and ubuntu obeys them17:31
ActionParsnippriuon: if you feel somethig is amiss, you can always report a bug17:31
RobbieCrashyou're copying data, not moving. Of course it reads and writes it.17:31
priuonActionParsnip: Do you say that this is defined as such with the ext4 fs?17:32
priuonRobbieCrash: I am moving17:32
omariohello17:32
priuonRobbieCrash: sorry that was a typo above17:32
ActionParsnippriuon: i dont know the standard activity for ext4, but standards exist for a reason and ubuntu will follow them17:32
priuonActionParsnip: Right. And I can't see how moving files as explained above will result in such a meaningless strain of a harddrive17:34
ActionParsnippriuon: not had an issue myself, does the same in many OSes as far as I have seen ever17:35
priuonActionParsnip: ActionParsnip: Where can I read up on such definitions?17:35
ActionParsnippriuon: they are freely available online for all to see17:35
priuonActionParsnip: they actually define that moving files within a partition will do such a nonsense?17:36
priuon"such nonsent"17:36
ActionParsnippriuon: its not nonsense17:36
wafflejockpriuon: it has to update the inodes that have the file information like an index for the drive, ext4 is a journaling file system so it logs info about what is going to be done before it's done17:36
wafflejockpriuon: windows is aweful about moving/copying files in my experience linux has been much better17:36
moral_I am trying to compile VLC 2.1.5 from source and it's complaining about "Can't read /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.la: No such file or directory" I've confirmed libxml2.la is not in that directory nor can `locate` locate it. I've removed libxml2-dev then reinstalled it. Then forced reinstalled it. Can anyone push m ein the right direction? Should I just compile libxm2 from source??17:37
priuonActionParsnip: Why is it not nonsense? There is no upside on having this r/w operation17:37
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ActionParsnippriuon: the journal is fantastic for data reliability17:37
fantasmaalguem sabe algum programa para criar um boot do ubuntu no pendrive?17:37
ActionParsnippriuon: ever used SQL?17:37
fantasmaque rode direto no ubuntu17:37
wafflejockDelta706: actually it kind of sounds like a ground loop problem or something the noise I typically hear from my machine (this might vary I'm not sure) sounds more high pitched and variable17:38
priuonwafflejock: yeah well updating the inodes etc is a task of seconds. I am talking about GByts of files read, written and deleted. I can just not see a reason to implement something like that.17:38
priuonActionParsnip: yeah I have used MySQL.17:38
k1l!br | fantasma17:38
ubottufantasma: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.17:38
fantasmaokay17:38
ActionParsnippriuon: so you will know about database log files, and how they are used and why they are sometimes more valuable than the actual database files themselves...yea17:39
ActionParsnips?17:39
priuonActionParsnip: honestly where is the move operation for the ext4 fs defined. And is there another fs that defines it correctly?17:39
ActionParsnippriuon: I dont have time to search the web for you, I'm sure you can do that yourself17:40
wafflejockpriuon: not sure about that typically when I've moved things but they're staying on the same drive I haven't seen major performance issues at all how are you testing/extracting info would like to verify17:40
priuonActionParsnip: I hoped you had an official source.17:40
priuonActionParsnip: If you don't have I don't ask you to search17:40
ActionParsnippriuon: in short, the journal is making a list of all tasks completed so in the event of suddent power off, the data is not baked and you will see "replaying journal" when the drive comes back online17:40
wafflejockDelta706: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)17:41
priuonActionParsnip: I myself just never find reliable=official sources17:41
useringsIt's not all about the fact that Linux file systems are journal. Linux and ext fs'es has better allocation algorithms than NTFS and Windows.17:41
ActionParsnippriuon: if you use ext2, you wont have this, the data will be much faster and you will use your drive less but a sudden power off and your data will probably be damaged17:41
priuonActionParsnip: yeah well, that does not have anything to do with what I asked.17:42
rim-kstill can't get my wifi working on ubuntu 14.0417:42
rim-kthinkpad t440s17:42
rim-kRealtek wifi17:43
ActionParsnippriuon: it does, the time taken to write the journal takes time17:43
rim-kI would appreciate any help17:43
ActionParsniprim-k: what is the output of:    sudo lshw -C network17:43
ActionParsniprim-k: us a pastebin to hold the output, like http://pastie.org17:43
priuonActionParsnip: Ubuntu is reading writing and deleting 70GB of files for no reason.17:43
ActionParsnippriuon: how do you know?17:43
priuonActionParsnip: updating the inodes would have sufficed. These are some 50 files or so.17:44
omarioapple is good17:44
priuonActionParsnip: because it is showing me that it does.17:44
rim-khttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8115966/17:44
Delta706wafflejock: thanks for the wikipedia page.  would it indicate that my sound card is badly installed?17:44
rim-kActionParsnip:17:44
eli__Hello17:44
ActionParsnippriuon: so you see individual files vanish as the move operation completes?17:44
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priuonActionParsnip: you don't really want to imply that Ubuntu's monitoring is fraud?17:45
ActionParsniprim-k: and the output of:   cat /etc/issue17:45
omariohey eli17:45
eli__I have a problem after upgrading to 14.04. Maybe a privileges issue? No idea...17:45
rim-kUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS17:45
priuonActionParship: I am not watching the fs manually.17:45
ActionParsnippriuon: is that what you are seeing though, individual files being made as they are removed from the source?17:45
rim-k 3.13.0-34-generic17:45
wafflejockDelta706: I'm not sure really it just sounds more like the "hum" I've heard from TVs in a building where there are ground loop problems, from what I've read around about it there are some things you can do to ground wires in the building that will fix it because it has to do with power that is floating in the wires or other metal that isn't properly grounded in the building17:46
priuonActionParsnip: I see a transferrate17:46
wafflejockDelta706: I'm might be totally off though17:46
moral_I am trying to compile VLC 2.1.5 from source and it's complaining about "Can't read /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.la: No such file or directory" I've confirmed libxml2.la is not in that directory nor can `locate` locate it. I've removed libxml2-dev then reinstalled it. Then forced reinstalled it. Can anyone push m ein the right direction? Should I just compile libxm2 from source??17:46
eli__This is the first time I use this chat, after 7 years of using ubuntu. What do I have to do to get any help?17:46
wafflejockDelta706: just a guess17:46
ActionParsnippriuon: yes, but what actually happens on the drive itself?17:46
priuonActionParsnip: my hw indicator shows hdd-access.17:46
ActionParsniprim-k: if you run:   dmesg | grep -i firm     what is output (if anything)?17:47
priuonActionParsnip: I doubt that the datatransferrate is fraud as said above.17:47
wafflejock!ask | eli__17:47
ubottueli__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:47
MonkeyDusteli__  ask a question and wait, repeat your question 10-15 minutes later, all in one line17:47
Delta706wafflejock: would the ubuntuforum be the place to look for experts?17:47
ActionParsnippriuon: fine, but what is happening on the drive as the move occurs?17:47
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priuonActionParsnip: this is just a serious loss of resources. It's madness!17:47
eli__Thanks17:47
ActionParsnippriuon: how have you seen what is happening on the drive as the data is moved?17:47
Guest92979hello17:47
wafflejockDelta706: not really sure on that one ubuntuforum is good but for audio stuff there might be better places, like I recently started playing with phone systems and there are dedicated Asterisk and SIP forums so something audio specific might be good17:48
wafflejockDelta706: someone who can listen to that file and tell you more definitively what it is17:48
priuonActionParsnip: I have not read the sources and or the definitions. So I don't know. All I know is that ubuntu is reading and writing 70GB from A to A.....17:48
ActionParsnippriuon: as far as I can see you are assuming taht because its taking longer than you would like, you are assuming taht the data is being copied, deleted then moved in some way.17:48
Guest92979i really need help with ubuntu!!! i want to format my whole HD via terminal!! don't know how....17:48
Delta706wafflejock: thanks, I will try the audacity site17:49
ActionParsnipGuest92979: you can use mk2fs  on an unmounted partition and it will wipe it17:49
wafflejockDelta706: do you have any alternative mics to try to reproduce to determine if it's mic related or system related? also could you use this mic on another device (perhaps a phone) those things might help narrow it down17:49
Guest92979ok17:49
wafflejockDelta706: yeah good luck17:49
ActionParsnippriuon: when really, you dont know how the file system works nder teh hood17:49
eli__Ubuntu does not mount my ereader nor any USB drive when plugging in. It says: unable to mount, not authorized (I also have other issues)17:49
ActionParsnip*the17:49
priuonActionParsnip: obviously... updating 200 inodes won't take 20 minutes. this are some 200 maybe 64 bit values to be edited...17:49
ActionParsnippriuon: all I can suggest is report a bug17:49
rim-k[    0.189927] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored17:50
rim-k[    6.039353] psmouse serio2: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/317:50
rim-kActionParsnip:17:50
Delta706wafflejock: thanks17:50
Guest92979can you give me a universal terminalcommand for formating HD17:50
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priuonActionParsnip: So if what I say is actually happening you agree that it is a bug then?17:50
ActionParsnipGuest92979: what file system do you want to use? There is no universal command17:50
ActionParsnippriuon: if what you say is happening then its either a bug or Ext4 is not as great as it says (in some cases)17:51
Guest92979under windows i would type : format C      what do i need to write in ubuntu?17:51
ActionParsnippriuon: considering its been the default in Ubuntu for a long time now, i'd say it was fine17:51
MonkeyDustGuest92979  boot a live cd, use gparted, delete partition17:52
ActionParsniprim-k: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/123957817:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1239578 in HWE Next trusty "No wireless support for Realtek RTL8192EE [10ec:818b]" [High,Confirmed]17:52
Guest92979yes, but i want to format the whole HD17:52
ActionParsniprim-k: try:  sudo modprobe rtl8192ee     see if it loads ok?17:52
MonkeyDustGuest92979  ok, use gparted to delete all partitions, then format to what you want17:53
ActionParsnipGuest92979: yes, to what file system? Ext4? Ext3? ZFS?17:53
eli__!ask |eli_17:53
ubottueli_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:53
ActionParsnipGuest92979: just like in Windows, you need to specify the file system when you format17:53
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Guest92979says: terminal -> gparted  and ready?17:53
ActionParsnipGuest92979: the default may be NTFS, but it is still set17:53
ActionParsnipGuest92979: gparted is a GUI app. I though you wanted to do it in terminal?17:54
MonkeyDustGuest92979  no, boot from a live cd, you cannot format it while you're using it17:54
rim-k10:51 < ActionParsnip> rim-k: try:  sudo modprobe rtl8192ee     see if it loads ok?17:54
rim-kI did compiled the module17:54
rim-kand loaded it17:54
rim-kbut it ended up with a kernel panic17:54
wafflejockeli__: why do you think you have a permissions problem after upgrading (someone mentioned something similar yesterday and installed gdm and it fixed their problem want to know if your problem is the same but no details)17:54
ActionParsniprim-k: ah17:54
rim-kI had to blacklist it to correctly boot17:54
Guest92979can we switch to 1-1 conversation ActionParsnip, i don't exactly understand the format thing...17:54
wafflejock!details | eli__17:55
ubottueli__: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)17:55
eli__wafflejock: Ubuntu does not mount my ereader nor any USB drive when plugging in. It says: unable to mount, not authorized.17:55
ActionParsnipGuest92979: format means to wipe the data from a partition17:55
rim-kActionParsnip: that was odd17:55
wafflejockeli__: that does sound similar17:55
priuonActionParsnip: While porting to linux I also lost valuable revision data (all files are the same now). I still pity that case. There was some unanalysed scientific data in one version that is lost now.17:55
wafflejockeli__: they said couldn't mount, couldn't adjust wifi couldn't adjust users17:55
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eli__wafflejock: also, I can't install from software center17:55
ActionParsnippriuon: break out the backups17:55
wafflejockeli__: we tried checking the /etc/sudoers file and user groups but nothing was working17:55
eli__wafflejock: also, I can't fix user advanced settings17:55
wafflejockeli__: pretty sure the person installed gdm and it fixed it17:55
priuonActionParsnip: I think the data didn't have a backup...17:56
wafflejockeli__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152256/how-do-i-switch-from-lightdm-to-gdm17:56
ActionParsnippriuon: cant be that important then....17:56
wafflejockeli__: you might want to install from the command line since software center isn't working out for ya either it sounds like17:56
eli__wafflejock: thanks, I'm going to try it right now, let's see if it works17:57
wafflejockeli__: k good luck17:57
priuonActionParsnip: funny. Well not as important as the finished results. no...17:57
wafflejockpriuon: despite the side jabbing, ActionParsnip is right if it is critical data it should be backed up17:58
ActionParsnippriuon: then you have learned the value of backup the hardest way possible17:58
xadi#join limtext17:58
ActionParsnipwafflejock: people love to learn the hard way17:58
MonkeyDustxadi  try /j #limtext17:58
wafflejockpriuon: rsync is a nice solution17:58
rim-kActionParsnip: I guess I just have to wait17:58
wafflejockActionParsnip: yeah it happens, I learn from experience sometimes too, it's a hard way17:59
ActionParsniprim-k: could try the kernel from Utopic, from the mainline PPA, just to test17:59
wafflejocklately using dejadup in Gnome the front end app and all seems to work very well17:59
wafflejockcool integration in the file chooser too so I can roll back files or folders by right clicking18:00
ActionParsnipwafflejock: I have a weekly cron'd cp to USB, quick and dirty18:00
rim-kActionParsnip: mmmm why not18:00
eli__wafflejock: ok, I reconfigured it, should I reboot now? (I can't even reboot, shut down or suspend via the menu, I have to do it via command line)18:00
azochniak@MonkeyDust thanks18:00
wafflejockeli__: yeah reboot to be safe, logout login is sometimes all you need but reboot and you'll be sure everything new is applied18:01
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eli__ok thanks. if it doesn't work then I'll come here again for help. Thank you very much18:01
wafflejockeli__: np godspeed :)18:01
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klana_LaptopHi@all! I have a problem with my UI. When i log in the backround is shown not properly and unity is not loading. Just report error message. I updated a longer time ago from 13.10 auf 14.04 per "UI". Today i had black screen after some search i found that I was still running on the old Kernel. I installed the kernel generic lts trusty. Since then i can login. And now i have the described problem.18:03
wafflejockActionParsnip: yeah I use clonezilla after I have a stable system setup so I can always get back to that if all else fails and not lose a day or whatever setting things up, then I was using rsync before switching to Ubuntu Gnome, but like the built in backup they got going here, only problem is duplicity support outside of Linux, but in terms of integrated backup it's pretty awesome18:03
wafflejockonly problem I have in terms of my backup setup is my NAS is totally weak18:04
wafflejockso that takes some time but since it's incremental backups it's not really a problem with deja dup18:04
wafflejockI like that the NAS is mirrored (D-Links proprietary X-RAID) though so I keep it running despite having some ancient hardware and software in it... eventually will grab a NUC and setup RAID or something but it's fine for now18:05
unkn-errorare there people with ubuntu installed on Mac (Apple Laptops)? I am curious18:07
wafflejockunkn-error: not me but I know there are, I think elementary OS is more Mac friendly though I don't have any Mac hardware so just hearsay18:08
DJones!mac | unkn-error Not something I'bve got, but maybe the Ubottu's link will have info useful to you,18:08
ubottuunkn-error Not something I'bve got, but maybe the Ubottu's link will have info useful to you,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages18:08
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Beldarklana_Laptop, This a sudden change, no unity, any thing leading up to this?18:08
klana_LaptopAny Help would be appreciated! I have a NVIDIA card now running on the Ubuntu drivers. Already tried to reinstall unity/nouveau. Didn't help.18:09
wafflejock!nomodeset | klana_Laptop18:09
ubottuklana_Laptop: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:09
wafflejockif you suspect graphics card problems that might be worth a shot18:09
unkn-errorthx!18:10
klana_LaptopBeldar last autoupdate isntalled new nvidia drivers which i guess wasn't compatible with the 13.11 kernel and so i got the first problem with blackscreen which i solved with installing new kernel.18:11
Beldarklana_Laptop, latest kernel is 3.13 besides the possible nvidia isssue I would wonder why your kernels are not upgrading, you might try the nomodeset boot to get a de.18:13
Beldarklana_Laptop, If you get in run a update and dist-uprade18:14
Beldarupgrade*18:14
DaekdroomHow do I direct the output a command produces in a terminal to a text file?18:17
miodiwhat would be the best laptop option if you would like a free software compatible MBP-a-like with an optical drive?18:18
Cyber#ubuntu18:18
SchrodingersScatDaekdroom: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html18:18
DaekdroomSchrodingersScat, thank you18:18
SchrodingersScatDaekdroom: another helpful page for bash: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/18:18
Cyber#xubuntu-br18:18
klana_LaptopBeldar I did apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty and upgrade. now running on 3.13.0-34. That improved the situation from "black" to "login screen -> broken background no unity" i will try the nomodeset18:18
Beldarmiodi, There are so many out there this is actual support not whats the best laptop.18:19
miodiBeldar, okay18:19
priuonsorry I got distracted. wafflejock: sure... I think I did a backup but it did the same thing to my backup there. wafflejock: yeah rsync is really nice and thorough. ActionParsnip (gone.. saying anyways): No people hate learning the hardway. Yet they get forced into having to learn it the hard way again and again...18:20
Beldarklana_Laptop, I would run a unity compiz reset as well. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/18:21
Beldarthan reboot18:21
Cyberjoin #ubuntu-br18:21
BeldarCyber, /join18:21
rim-kI think I vanished my Win8 partition when installing (replacing 13.10) with 14.04 (+LVM)18:22
rim-k...18:22
Beldarpriuon, forced is not a valid argument.18:22
rim-kI'm wondering how I can confirm this18:22
Beldarrim-k, can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin it18:23
_shrinethese compiz jiggly windows never make me bored18:23
rim-kBeldar : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8116209/18:24
rim-kinteresting18:24
Beldarrim-k, I see a ntfs on sdc a msdos, sda is a gpt any sdb?18:25
priuonBeldar: maybe not.18:26
Beldarpriuon, maybe?18:26
priuonBeldar: they don't choose it by free will either18:26
Beldarpriuon, that is another bogus argument. No substance, and by the way freewill is a illusion.18:27
BigHatMonkeyhi there18:28
BigHatMonkeyhow are you guys ??18:28
BigHatMonkeyi need some little help18:28
BeldarBigHatMonkey, State the issue please.18:28
Beldarin one post18:28
BigHatMonkeyis because dropbox always ask for a prompt after every reboot18:29
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: thank you very much18:29
BigHatMonkeyim using ubuntu 14.0418:29
BeldarBigHatMonkey, What is the prompt, dropbox has a preferences.18:30
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: Is the inicial prompt, ask me for my email and password18:30
KankrocAnyone here ever had a problem with watching youtube video with Opera on Ubuntu?18:30
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: after this, works correctly18:31
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: is like the first install, but its show after reboot and power off18:31
BeldarBigHatMonkey, I would make sure all that is correct by un-linking and linking again, you must have made a mistake somewhere in there.18:32
kostkon!details | Kankroc18:32
ubottuKankroc: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)18:32
subsciou1Beldar:18:33
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: Ok, so i keep search about linking and unlinking on google18:33
BeldarBigHatMonkey, You can do it from the dropbox preferences18:33
KankrocAlright, I just installed Opera instead of Firefox because I prefer that browser (nothing agains't Firefox). Now for some reasons, when I watch a video on youtube it keeps having some kind of "Hiccup". It's like a 0.5 sec lag.18:33
priuonBeldar: sorry ... techical issues here.18:34
priuonBeldar: freewill is a welldefined state as seen from within it's defining system18:34
VolodymyrBhi, is there any chat for mint?18:34
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: Ok, i apreciate your time18:35
wafflejockBeldar: haha I love how flately you state above freewill is an illusion (LOL)18:35
Beldar!mint | VolodymyrB18:35
ubottuVolodymyrB: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:35
Beldarwafflejock, It is sorry if that is new news to you. ;)18:35
VolodymyrBthanks18:35
streulmajust a short question: SSD in Optical Bay, HDD in normal place, Macbook Pro 13 inch 2012. GRUB installed on SSD > does not work. Grub installed on HDD > does not work. All blinking cursor. Boot repair did nothing...18:36
Beldarwafflejock, If you study quantum physics which no one really understands this is apparent.18:36
ITAL0hello all18:36
MonkeyDuststreulma  short (quick) questions rarely have short answers18:37
wafflejockBeldar: it almost got me in some fights at work, I've actually heard QM used as an argument for free will (getting way OT though so will drop it)18:37
streulma:)18:37
stevendumanihello room please i need help installing nvidia drivers for fx5500 card18:39
stevendumaniubuntu 12.04 LTS18:39
stevendumanidoes it really affect 3D performance in vmware machines? cuz currently im getting (no 3D support, please install the OpenGL drivers for your card..)18:40
stevendumaniI tried using this ppa http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/18:41
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Kai__nvidia drivers in vmware?18:44
Kai__dude18:44
tawmuHey guys, anyone any good with ntlm_auth and samba?18:44
Beldarso many wrongs ther18:44
Kai__install vmware tools18:44
Kai__vmware has its own gfx drivers18:44
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blablabhi, what is better between irssi and weechat please18:45
Beldarblablab, Not even close to support, decide which yo like.18:45
MonkeyDustKai__  streulma i use vmware too, even the tools don't offer 3D support18:45
iceroot_tawmu: #samba18:45
MonkeyDuststevendumani  ^^^18:46
tawmuiceroot_: it’s dead :(18:46
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klanaBeldar wafflejock ubottu : setting nomodeset brought ubuntu unity back with 3 system errors. but it works. Any further steps i should take? your tip Beldar or installing nvidia drivers?18:46
stevendumaniKai__ not in vmware, but vmware guests performance is not as good as it should, vmware tools are installed, but each time I boot winxp (vmware client) I get a msg from vmware saying (install openGL drivers to get 3D support in the guest machines)18:47
Kai__ah ok18:47
MonkeyDuststevendumani  not only with xp, also with windows7 and ubuntu18:47
Guest82581Can anyone help me with a kernel compilation error?18:47
stevendumaniexactly MonkeyDust18:47
wafflejockklana: yeah you may want to go with the nvidia proprietary drivers er whatever Beldar suggested18:48
Kai__if you're running ubuntu why don't you install proprietary drivers directly from system settings?18:48
stevendumaniso now I have unmet dependencies.. and conflicts18:48
klanawafflejock he suggested resetting unity http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/18:48
Kai__They're available in the additional drivers section18:48
stevendumaniKai__ I'll try that now, but how?18:48
stevendumaniKai__ OK18:49
stevendumaniKai__ thank you18:49
Kai__That's the first thing you should have tried18:49
Kai__np18:49
slops17hey all18:49
BigHatMonkeyBeldar: Ok, many many thanks, see you soon18:49
stevendumaniKai__ is it better than the drivers in this ppa? anyway thank you I don't need optimum performance I just need OpenGL support18:50
slops17whats the best way to disable the grub hold on ubuntu server 14.04. The server is running headless and sometime when i plug a monitor in it will be at a grub boot menu?18:50
Kai__they will work for sure18:50
wafflejockklana: might work... from what I've seen if nomodeset fixes the issue it just means there's a problem with the graphics driver but it could be some compiz or unity issue, wouldn't hurt to reset them really18:51
Kai__with manual installation it's easy to mess things up18:51
uhhhanyone here?18:51
wafflejockuhhh: maybe18:51
stevendumaniKai__ I got "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system18:51
Kai__sure18:51
Kai__about 1715 users18:51
Kai__oh18:51
Kai__are any available to download?18:52
stevendumaniKai__ the only available buttons in the window are "Help" and "Close"18:52
Kai__or is the list totally empty?18:52
Kai__ok18:52
Kai__maybe your gpu is too new for 12.0418:53
uhhhI'm having NIC issues18:53
uhhhwith my realtek 8723ae18:53
Kai__oh18:53
Kai__wait18:53
stevendumaniKai__ it's too old, it's FX5500 (one of the first PCI Express models)18:53
Kai__omg18:54
stevendumaniKai__ but it's supported in that ppa18:54
Kai__no wonder18:54
Kai__well18:54
Kai__might be problematic if it's that old18:55
wafflejockstevendumani: do the proprietary drivers not work either? generally speaking the nvidia drivers have worked fine for me... I have an X600 now but even with older cards it's mostly worked well18:55
uhhhubuntu says:18:55
uhhh04:00.2 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0a)18:55
uhhhSubsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 353718:55
uhhhKernel driver in use: r816918:55
anarkhoshey wafflejock18:55
wafflejockah hello anarkhos18:55
stevendumaniKai__ btw i have compiz with all the effects and its running fine. just the guest machines performance is a little strange.18:55
uhhhbut my wifi has been prompting for my password to reconnect several times18:56
laze1989Does anyone know if there are source packages for QT5 for Trusty in the archives?18:56
uhhhand one time couldn't reconnect at all, but when I booted windows my wifi was still working just fine18:56
Kai__so you do have opengl support18:56
stevendumaniwafflejoke sorry but what are the proprietary drivers exactly?18:56
Kai__with free drivers but still18:57
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Kai__official drivers from nvidia18:57
stevendumaniKai__ I think i do but it's not running on all applications, and from the user reviews of the drivers im trying to install i think it's encouraging18:57
Kai__proprietary because their source code is not available18:58
stevendumaniKai__ nVIDIA stopped supporting my card long ago18:58
zetherooI have had Ubuntu 14.04 installed since it's release and wanted to give the plasma (kubuntu) desktop a try, so I installed it from SPM. Since then if I revert back to the Ubuntu desktop there are odd goings-on - for instance Pidgin looks like it still has the KDE look, as does Firefox. Also the menus coming from the top bar indicators all have black text which is really hard to read. Any way to fix this without removing the plasma de18:58
Kai__yup18:58
faribamkmmsg nickserv negarmkm f.karvand@gamil.com18:59
Kai__That's why you might have some issues with eg. the kernel18:59
Kai__google up and check if someone has already managed to install those drivers on a modern (3.x) kernel19:00
OerHeksfaribamkm, time to change password19:01
anarkhosis it bad to search for files on an NTFS partition using lubuntu?19:01
MonkeyDustKai__  don't send people away by telling they have to google it, please19:01
anarkhosor perfectly harmless?19:01
stevendumaniKai__ I'm resolving the dependencies already, I'm on my way.19:01
OerHekshttps://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass19:01
Kai__I'not sending ppl away19:01
Kai__I just told him what I would do19:02
Beldarzetheroo, Have you chosen the ubuntu desktop from the login?19:02
stevendumanibtw is there a good way to install kik on ubuntu?19:02
zetherooBeldar: yes sure19:03
zetherooBeldar: it's all Ubuntu Unity, except for some strange oddities19:03
Beldarzetheroo, Was the ubuntu desktop the install version originally and did you remove any of it?19:04
MonkeyDuststevendumani  you mean kiki?19:04
zetherooBeldar: was the original, and no, did not remove any part of it19:05
Kai__ok, back in front of my keyboard19:05
Beldarzetheroo, I would reset it and do a reboot. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/19:05
stevendumaniMonkeyDust kik it's a chat client I've heard of, it's on android19:05
Kai__controlling your desktop using a smartphone via RDP isn't nearly as good :P19:05
Kai__even if it's a galaxy note 319:06
Kai__stevendumani, found something: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise19:07
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the_f0sterif i get locked out of ssh for failed attempts, does this lock my username, or my ip ? my sshd is configured as default19:08
Kai__if it works for FX5200 then it should work for any FX19:08
Beldaranarkhos, searching fine, modifying is another manner.19:08
zetherooBeldar: will give that a go - thanks19:08
anarkhosBeldar: modifying as in editing documents?19:09
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Rwartest19:09
RwarHello?19:09
MonkeyDustRwar  it works, we see you19:10
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Kaiiidammit19:10
Kaiiiwhat the hell is with my connection... :/19:10
RwarI'm a bit confused..19:10
MonkeyDustRwar  aren't we all, sometimes19:10
OerHeksKaiii, please watch your language, thanks.19:10
RwarI don't normally use these type of chat things..19:10
RwarI need some help getting something to work, I'm unsure if this is where I'd ask19:11
MonkeyDustRwar  this is IRC, the ubuntu support channel19:11
trijntjeHi Rwar, just ask your question and people will try to help you19:11
KaiiiI didn't use the "f" word, come on :<19:11
Kaiiioh, he's gone19:11
RwarI have this old Mac, and I'm trying to switch to Ubuntu so I can use Steam and Skype again (as of this month Steam stopped working for my build of mac).. I was hoping switching would allow me to use those again19:11
Kaiiihow old is this mac?19:12
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Kaiiiand, most importantly, what cpu is inside?19:12
Beldaranarkhos, You ave to have a windows centric app to do configs is all, say a document from word is okay. However windows does do system checks so you want to be aware. If these are just documents and or media etc having a shared ntfs is a better storage.19:12
Rwaruhm..I don't know.. my grandmother gave it to me.. I'm currently viewing it with Teamviewer19:12
Beldarhave*19:12
Kaiiipress the apple logo and  "About this Mac"19:12
Kaiiiand tell me the cpu name19:12
RwarI forgot I restarted it, Logging in now19:13
Kaiiiif it's a PowerPC I'm afraid steam won't run on it because of architecture differences19:13
Kaiiiyou can't run x86 binaries on a PowerPC19:13
RwarI'm losing track of this chat19:14
Beldarwe a;; are, lol19:14
Kaiiitetris level 5 :P19:14
Beldarall*]19:14
anarkhosBeldar: ok. well what i have in mind now is searching on the NTFS partition for an iso image. that way i wouldn't need to reboot and load xp.19:14
saiarcot895Kaiii and Rwar: It helps to include the name of the recipient at the start of the message19:14
anarkhosBeldar: so searching like that is totally fine?19:14
uhhhI was having NIC issues, some one told me to edit boot options to pcie_aspm=off19:14
Beldaranarkhos, Yes19:14
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uhhhI haven't d/c'ed from wifi yet, but the signal strength is fluctuating a lot19:15
anarkhosBeldar: ok good19:15
Beldaranarkhos, The danger is actually using XP. ;)19:15
uhhhwhere as on windows I have no d/c issues19:16
Beldaron the web anyway19:16
uhhhI'm assuming it's a driver issue if anyone knows a solution for realtek 8723ae's19:16
anarkhosBeldar: haha19:16
Beldarjust a joust, I use windows19:16
dav1dp0101SCHAAP137, I fixed it: I had to install a GUI, and refresh/reinstall my device drivers as detailed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting19:18
SCHAAP137ahh, allright dav1dp010119:19
dav1dp0101After that, my sound devices appeared in the input and output drop down lists19:19
SCHAAP137that is useful information indeed19:19
SCHAAP137sol u had to install X1119:19
SCHAAP137?19:19
dav1dp0101But before that they didn't even appear, it's like it wasn't detecting any sound cards at all. Now JACK is working with ALSA, and liquidsoap and shoutcast.19:19
dav1dp0101I installed gnome-3 core19:19
SCHAAP137that's cool stuff, i hate pulseaudio, considering ALSA - JACK only here as well19:19
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SCHAAP137but afraid to break ubuntu shit19:20
dav1dp0101It sucks having the whole thing broken, I was worried I would have to wipe the drive clean and start from a fresh OS install.19:20
SCHAAP137i have Pulse -> Jack -> ALSA here19:20
SCHAAP137as routing19:20
dav1dp0101I see19:20
SCHAAP137some apps grab pulse, others jack19:20
SCHAAP137good that u fixed it though19:21
SCHAAP137it is useful info19:21
dav1dp0101Yep! Thanks a ton for your help.19:21
SCHAAP137u running supercollider as well?19:21
SCHAAP137np, just trying to help fellow users19:21
dav1dp0101No, one day I'm gonna play with supercollider, but probably on OS X! Haha. That's where I do my sound design and music production (Reaper, MIDI, audio interface)19:21
SCHAAP137if u're into audio/music, and coding, i recommend SuperCollider19:21
SCHAAP137ah cool, u know what it is19:21
dav1dp0101The ubuntu server is for my local radio station to have an online audio stream and hourly archived mp3 files for download19:22
SCHAAP137also cool, ChucK, from princeton university, google it19:22
dav1dp0101Yeah, I've seen people perform with supercollider live. I am ordering a Korg nanoKontrol2, which my friend used with supercollider.19:22
SCHAAP137supercollider is awesome indeed, i "studied" sonology @ the hague netherlands conservatory for almost 3 years19:23
SCHAAP137but i had motivational problems, didnt finish it19:23
loahello!19:23
SCHAAP137still, supercollider is sick19:23
SCHAAP137sup loa19:23
loai have problem with my usb drive. it mounts ok, and i can browse it content, but when it try to add new files, system said that my harddrive is only read only.19:24
blablabhi, what is better between irssi and weechat please19:24
loathat's how system mounted it https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.22-23%3A24%3A25.png19:24
loayou can see that state is rw19:24
dav1dp0101ah cool! I'm a musician and programmer and I haven't combined the two fields much in the past.19:25
wafflejockblablab: http://subforge.org/blogs/show/2119:25
blablabwafflejock, thanks i like the comparison, but you, what is your favorite19:26
wafflejockblablab: I personally use a GUI based chat Quassel IRC19:27
SCHAAP137loa, was the content of the USB drive filled from a OSX or windows machine?19:27
blablaboh ok19:27
SCHAAP137if so, what is the filesystem on the USB device?19:27
wafflejockI tried XChat for a bit but can't get used to it, back the day I used mIRC19:27
SCHAAP137FAT32? HFS+ ?19:27
wafflejockquassel is a bit of a hog but on a good machine it's nice19:27
loaSCHAAP137, i think there is ntfs.19:28
loai tried to use ntfsfix on it19:28
blablabwafflejock, i would like to get something similar to this http://pascalpoitras.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2014-03-07-170223_1600x900_scrot.png19:28
SCHAAP137okay, what version of ubuntu are you running?19:28
loaand it said that all is ok.19:28
loa14.0419:28
SCHAAP137the disk space is not physically full loa?>19:28
loagood question)19:28
SCHAAP137ntfs nowadays from standard ubuntu should work with r/w19:29
SCHAAP137in the early days, we had FUSE19:29
loaSCHAAP137, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.22-23%3A29%3A04.png19:29
loait worked in the morning.19:29
loamaybe i unmount it unsaifly19:29
SCHAAP137okay, try eject/unmount19:29
SCHAAP137then remove19:29
SCHAAP137then maybe a reboot, and reinsirt19:30
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SCHAAP137see what the result is19:30
SCHAAP137used any VM's inbetween?19:30
SCHAAP137processes on the device still running?19:30
wafflejockblablab: is that Awesome TWM?19:30
SCHAAP137TWM is cool, but Xmonad is cooler wafflejock19:30
blablabwafflejock, i dont know sorry19:30
loaSCHAAP137, yeah. i think i need reboot.19:31
SCHAAP137try, maybe it will fix it19:31
SCHAAP137could be hanging stuff, locked process whatever19:31
wafflejockSCHAAP137: hadn't previously checked that out at all not sure I could get used to the TWM idea really19:32
SCHAAP137i think xmonad is faily accessible, once you get to know the keycombos19:32
SCHAAP137havent checked twm that much rly19:32
SCHAAP137heard good stories about it though19:32
blablabwafflejock, someone said he use awesome wm19:33
wafflejockyeah I've always used key bindings for various window tiling tasks but still like my regular feeling windows that I can resize with a mouse19:34
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wafflejockseems to work better multimonitor in KDE or Unity than Gnome really but I like the Gnome winkey to see everything or do whatever19:34
wafflejocksimilar to the lense but I think really actually better19:35
klanaBeldar wafflejock ubottu thank you for the help! nomodeset fixed the problem for now. I would have liked to install the proprietary video drivers from Nvidia but in the Additional Driver program i cant chose them. Downloaded driver from side tells me that they are already installed. but there are no Nvidia packages. lshw -c video shows drivers: nvidia. Maybe that's also shown with Nouveau. I leave the status for now how it is. it work19:35
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apb1963what tool and options will let me search for "*avahi*" and return those packages that match and are installed on my system?19:36
wafflejockapb1963: maybe apt-cache search http://www.tecmint.com/useful-basic-commands-of-apt-get-and-apt-cache-for-package-management/19:36
eli_wafflejock: gdm does not work, I had to login via command line and revert to lightdm19:37
wafflejockeli_: ah sorry to hear it you were gone for a while there19:37
Beldarklana, I know nothing really on nvidia, my goal was getting you to a updated and workable situation.19:37
eli_wafflejock: because all I saw was a black screen instead of the login screen19:37
mugenbanto"hi all, am I doing this right? "./~/.fritzing-0.9.0b.linux.AMD64/Fritzing"19:37
mugenbantoI can't seem to execute the program this way, while I am able to when I get into the folder19:38
wafflejockeli_: you did it as described here http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/install-gdm-ubuntu-14-04/ ?19:39
wafflejockmugenbanto: ~/.fritzing-0.9.0b.linux.AMD64/Fritzing should do it19:39
wafflejockmugenbanto: the ./ is to say current directory run something (as in don't try to find it on the path it's in this folder)19:39
apb1963wafflejock: apt-cache pkgnames avahi is a very good start19:39
eli_wafflejock: wafflejock: well, gdm was already installed19:40
mugenbantothank you19:40
mugenbantothat worked wafflejock19:40
wafflejockcool19:40
z3ro3xI normally leave my computer run 24/7.  I only turn off the monitor when I goto bed.  Twice in the last week my computer would be completely frozen.  When I wake up and turn my monitor back on and move the mouse or push keys on the keyboard the screen stays black.   Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing.  Ping and SSH from another device also does nothing.  My only option is hold the power button and force a hard reboot.  Sleep mode is disabled19:40
z3ro3x.  Only the screen is automatically turned off after a set amount of time.  This freeze never happens during the day when I leave the computer alone for a few hours and come back to it.  It only seems to happen at night when I sleep.  The only difference I can tell is that I physically turn off the monitor when I sleep.  I'm at a lost of trying to pin point the cause.  I can't make heads or tails of the logs in /var/log.  My mother19:40
z3ro3x board is a MSI 870A-G54 and my video card is a Gigabyte AMD/ATI HD7870.19:40
eli_wafflejock: and the configuration window didn't appear19:40
wafflejockeli_: ah so you just tried to switch to it but it was a no go19:40
klanaBeldar and we achieved that :) thanks again19:40
apb1963wafflejock: dpkg -l | grep avahi seems to be the magic incantation19:41
amanthakurhi guys, I seeking an advice from senior programmers about my programming carreer. Actually, i am confused in choosing the programming field. I have been coding application in C# for windows for more than 3 years now, i also like linux and wants to learn linux device driver development. I am also a RHCE on RHEL 5.0. But i am confused, that which field should i choose to make my carreer in. Shall i go with C# or shall i go with Linux Device Drivers?19:41
amanthakur??? I really appreciate if someone can help me decide....19:41
eli_wafflejock: I tried that way, and also the last message on this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/152256/how-do-i-switch-from-lightdm-to-gdm19:41
Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: skip anything from Microsoft19:41
Adam_ActiveStatethey are becoming more and more irrelevant19:41
UltraDMAHello, the updater of my old 9.10 Ubuntu popped up and requested me to update openssl and libssl. I accepted that (knowing about the recent SSL trouble). But ... the next dialog listed both packages under UNAUTHENTICATED. I aborted and decided to ask you. Is that normal or is my sys under control of the dark forces?19:41
apb1963I don't know that there's any money in device driver development ?19:42
Adam_ActiveStatealmost anything else (besides apple) is better19:42
eli_wafflejock: maybe I should mention that I do not have that Unity stuff19:42
amanthakurAdam_ActiveState, do we have good chances of making money in Linux Device drivers?19:42
Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: you can transition your programming knowledge to ruby, go and many others that will run in containers19:42
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Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: when you go the C# route, you get stuck19:43
Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: take the time to learn docker, cloud foundry19:43
wafflejockeli_: ah yea the person yesterday was using Unity not sure if it matters, I upgraded Kubuntu 12.04 -> 14.04 and was generally okay but decided I wanted to try Gnome19:43
Adam_ActiveStatethen deploy go, ruby, node.js experiments19:43
wafflejockeli_: can check some basics on your user account I suppose too19:44
wafflejockeli_: run groups19:44
wafflejockin the terminal that should show you in sudo19:44
Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: use your driver experience to contribute to open source like the linux kernel19:44
amanthakurAdam_ActiveState, i was thinking to go on a low level programming like C for device drivers, instead of writing web applications.19:44
Adam_ActiveStateit looks very good on your resume19:44
eli_wafflejock: do I paste the result here?19:44
wafflejockeli_: yeah it's fine19:44
eli_wafflejock: sudo groups ---> root19:44
Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: you can do both19:44
wafflejockeli_: just groups19:45
wafflejockeli_: it should tell you current user groups if you don't specifiy an arg19:45
wafflejockotherwise it expects a username like groups shaun19:45
Adam_ActiveStatethe complexity of writing LoB (line of business) applications is way easier19:45
eli_wafflejock: eli sys adm lp dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare mythtv19:45
amanthakurAdam_ActiveState, ah ok good19:45
wafflejockeli_: oh wait so you aren't in sudo... that might be a problem19:46
Adam_ActiveStateamanthakur: keep your skills up in the harder discipline. you can alway learn a new language or framework19:46
wafflejockeli_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer-using-the-command-line19:46
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amanthakurAdam_ActiveState, yes you are right....19:47
kudakwashefor a person wanting to learn how to program using ubuntu gnu/linux ( so they can understand the ubuntu os better ) which language would be good to start with? wouldn't it make sense to start with bash?19:47
wafflejockkudakwashe: bash isn't really a full on language19:48
eli_wafflejock: i added my user to sudo via sudo adduser eli sudo19:48
wafflejockkudakwashe: it is pretty robust but it's still fairly limited19:48
kudakwashewafflejock: i mean as a starting point19:48
wafflejockeli_: log out and log in then19:48
eli_wafflejock: ah ok19:48
eli_wafflejock: thanks, I hope this will solve my problem!!!19:49
wafflejockkudakwashe: C is everywhere, lots of python too19:49
wafflejockeli_: yeah fingers crossed19:49
kudakwashewafflejock: i mean, if you learn python, that's a good scripting language, but wouldn't learning bash first help you understand the OS better19:49
GatisFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.19:49
wafflejockkudakwashe: you know you can grab the source for most everything with apt-get19:49
DJones!ot | Gatis19:49
ubottuGatis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:49
Gatis:D19:49
wafflejockkudakwashe: it's good to check out the things you're interested in contributing to19:49
GatisWho cares :D19:49
Gatishahahaaahaahh19:49
wafflejockkudakwashe: then see what you need to know19:49
kudakwashewafflejock: can a person develop software for ubuntu withough knowing bash at all?19:50
kudakwashewafflejock: say, if all they know is c and python?19:50
wafflejockkudakwashe: you'll be using the terminal and build scripts but you don't necessarily need to be the one writing them19:50
kudakwashewafflejock: seems like knowing bash is neccesary, even the boot process involves bash?19:50
wafflejockkudakwashe: in an established project that work will already be done19:51
wafflejockkudakwashe: I'm not saying not to learn about bash I just wouldn't take it to far as a "programming language"19:51
wafflejockit's more for getting things done19:51
loaSCHAAP137, reboot solved problem.19:51
wafflejockstart this or that service up or shut it down but not interact with memory etc.19:51
loahow i hate solve problems with reboots.19:51
loai feel abused.19:51
TJ-kudakwashe: The boot scripts don't rely on bash; only on busybox sh and (da)sh19:52
SCHAAP137loa: that is a good thing19:52
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SCHAAP137loa: it means there was a malfunction on a application/library level19:52
loaok, what i can do with this error? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.22-23%3A52%3A45.png19:53
SCHAAP137or user level, ;P19:53
loai am trying to format my flash stick.19:53
SCHAAP137hmm, dont know loa19:53
SCHAAP137does not look familiar loa19:54
kudakwashei was disconnected, so yeah bash isn't a programming language, granted19:54
wafflejockkudakwashe: ah wondered what happend :)19:54
TJ-kudakwashe: The boot scripts don't rely on bash; only on busybox sh and (da)sh19:54
eli_wafflejock: it's me again. I logged out and now sudo is on my groups list. But still, devices won't automount, I can't change user settings, or Disks settings...19:54
kudakwashewhich would be the best language to start with in ubuntu would you say?19:54
kudakwasheusing a mobile modem in rural zimbabwe, not very reliable19:54
wafflejockkudakwashe: it depends on what part of ubuntu19:55
wafflejockkudakwashe: hehe19:55
TJ-kudakwashe: What do you want to do? there are a wide variety of programming languages used in the various packages that make up Ubuntu19:55
wafflejockkudakwashe: different packages written with different things so it sorta depends19:55
loaSCHAAP137, you meen russian?19:55
wafflejockkudakwashe: C is a good general purpose general learning thing19:55
loawhat was that last sentence about.19:55
wafflejockkudakwashe: but better if you have a specific goal19:55
SCHAAP137no, the application, the utility to format19:55
kudakwashereally i just want to learn how to program but using ubuntu, to understand it19:56
SchrodingersScatkudakwashe: you can program in almost any language in ubuntu19:56
SCHAAP137the USB was inserted after boot completed loa?19:56
wafflejockkudakwashe: better to learn to program separately to some degree, ubuntu has a variety of stuff but some of it is going to be really complex for a beginner19:56
loaSCHAAP137, yeah. it is another problem.19:56
SCHAAP137try eject, insert, retry action19:56
loai am trying to format it fro gui.19:56
wafflejockkudakwashe: this is a nice place to just get your feet wet http://www.codecademy.com/19:57
kudakwashei thought starting with bash then c19:57
kudakwashewould give a good understanding of shell then the foundation programming language of the os19:57
SCHAAP137u have a terminal/ something else open, on a directory @ the device?>19:57
wafflejockkudakwashe: once you feel like you kinda get the general gist of programming then I would find a package you're really interested in learning about and contributing to and grab the souce19:57
wafflejocksource*19:57
kudakwashewafflejock: cant afford the bandwidth ($90 USD per gig)19:57
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kudakwasheneed to learn offline19:57
loaSCHAAP137, i think problem is that earlier i dd on it iso of ubuntu server.19:57
TJ-kudakwashe: Learn to use and love the man-pages them, they are often invaluable19:58
wafflejockkudakwashe: understandable19:58
SCHAAP137loa, ok, dd can be destructive when used in a nonstandard way19:58
SCHAAP137u can use something like Unetbootin, or Rufus19:58
TJ-kudakwashe: also, look for the -doc packages for the programs/tools you're interested in, and install them, so you have good resources locally19:58
wafflejockindeed ^19:58
wafflejockyou don't want out-dated resources19:58
wafflejockprint has a hard time keeping up19:59
ryan_sup19:59
BeldarTJ-, Is that from learn to love the rack in the middle ages19:59
TJ-kudakwashe: If you want a challenge, figure out how to write a HTTP server and HTTP client using *only* Bash19:59
SCHAAP137loa, maybe u can retry making the USB, with unetbootin20:00
TJ-Beldar: No, it's from tough love :)20:00
Beldarlol20:00
Beldar;)20:00
kudakwasheTJ-: sounds a little insane but i do think i'm starting with bash then c20:00
kudakwasheusing vi as my editor20:00
TJ-kudakwashe: I use vim ... I set myself the challenge of writing the HTTP client and server recently, and it proved surprisingly easy20:01
TJ-kudakwashe: "man bash" is a real gem20:01
kudakwasheTJ-: i'm a complete beginner20:01
kudakwashethough20:01
wafflejockTJ-: assuming you have TCP taken care of?20:02
wafflejockTJ-: i mean something outside of bash is handling that level?20:02
kudakwashethanks for the advice - got to run - take care20:02
TJ-kudakwashe: Experiment then... read the manual, try something, figure out why it didn't work the way you expected, fix it, gain the insight, and pick a new challenge :)20:02
wafflejockTJ-: In one of my Java classes we had to write some of the parts of TCP on top of an emulated UDP socket, definitely learned a lot about how TCP works but haven't really messed with socket programming stuff since then (I do web dev mostly)20:03
TJ-wafflejock: echo -n "GET / HTTP/1.1\rHost: yourserver.com\r\r" >/dev/tcp/yourhost.com/8020:03
TJ-wafflejock: I've implemented a full stack on a couple of architectures20:05
napterk_hi try to unmount a drive, which seems to be still busy. Is there a way to unmount it, though?20:05
wafflejockTJ-: interesting... so it actually is able to resolve if you have the domain yourhost.com pointing at the machine with that little script?20:05
regnonapterk_, have you tried umount -l ?20:06
napterk_regno: no not yes20:06
napterk_regno: no not yet20:06
MonkeyDustguys, about iptables, the ubottu pages are rather cluttered... how do I allow ssh from any device in 192.168.1.* ?20:06
regnothat should do the trick20:06
wafflejockTJ-: ah will read here http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/more-using-bashs-built-devtcp-file-tcpip20:06
napterk_regno: worked! tried umount -f ...20:07
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regnoglad to hear :) Also, you could try to find out which processes are using the files on the mounted device: lsof|grep "/<mountpoint>"20:08
eli_wafflejock: do I try that gdm thing again, now I am in the sudo group? or does that not make a difference? with lightdm it's still not working20:08
SP33Ddoes some one in here speak frensh20:09
loaSCHAAP137, lol, what is broken with dd, need to be fixing with dd.20:09
SP33Dwhat means TI or TE behind a price20:09
loazeroed my flash with dd and all is ok now.20:09
eli_SP33D: I do speak french20:09
SP33Deli what means TI after a price20:10
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k1l!ot | SP33D20:10
ubottuSP33D: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:10
wafflejockeli_: well you should have been in the sudo group in 14.04 from what I understand20:10
wafflejockeli_: you can check your /etc/sudoers file too https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/adding-a-user-to-the-sudoers-list-in-ubuntu-14-0420:10
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wafflejockeli_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43317/what-is-the-difference-between-the-sudo-and-admin-group20:11
eli_SP33D: maybe "tout inclus"?20:12
wafflejockloa: heh dd giveth and dd taketh away20:13
eli_SP33D: all included20:13
SP33Dya i got it thx20:14
SP33Dit means tax include tax eclude20:14
eli_wafflejock: oh my god20:14
eli_wafflejock: i wanted to press quit and enter20:14
eli_wafflejock: and i didn't press the right keys20:15
eli_wafflejock: and it recorded the changes20:15
eli_wafflejock: how can it revert the etc/sudoers file20:15
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eli_wafflejock:20:16
eli_wafflejocK. i got the message: permission denied20:16
syllopsiumhi, this shouldn't be causing me so much of an issue but it is - how do I stop gnome from loading20:16
MonkeyDusteli_  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too20:16
syllopsiumit's not in rc2.d and there is no /etc/init/gdm.conf20:16
loalol, dd is overcharged https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.23-00%3A16%3A54.png20:17
alive4everIf you messed up with /etc/sudoers file, you should boot your system in single user mode or use chroot to fix it.20:17
loaso it is strange that Disk utility can't format that flash20:17
eli_MonkeyDust: I apologize for my ignorance... 7 years using linux and still, I make these mistakes...20:17
loai just dded iso to that flash.20:17
loamaybe i need to fill a bug?20:17
eli_but what can I do now?? is there not a command for reverting the changes or something?20:18
wafflejockeli_: follow alive4ever's advice here, it happens, I personally use nano cause I could never get used to vi modes20:18
eli_wafflejock; alive4ever, I don't even know how to do that20:18
wafflejockeli_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub20:19
albertociao20:19
alive4everRemember to use visudo for editing sudoers file.20:20
junkadoes apparmor confine every installed app from the repos or only the ones installed from ubuntu software center?20:21
eli_alive4ever, wafflejocK: I am a computer science ignorant, I do not understand...:(20:21
wafflejockeli_: not familiar with grub?20:22
eli_wafflejock: nope20:22
eli_7 years using linux and still an ignorant20:22
wafflejockeli_: no biggie it's just the program that kick starts the OS, it typically isn't shown if you only have one OS installed20:22
wafflejockeli_: you able to open that SO link above?20:23
eli_wafflejock: I have two and it is shown20:23
eli_yes20:23
wafflejockah okay so yeah when you have the one selected you want to get into you hit E20:23
eli_i ran sudo visudo and it doesn't look like the file has suffered changes20:23
innocent95Hi folks.20:24
eli_wafflejock, yes, I've done that before20:25
innocent95I get an error message when i open my ubuntu it says: System program problem detected, and there are two options button 'Cancel' or 'Report a problem'20:25
eli_wafflejock: but just a minute, the uncommented lines of my etc sudoers file are:20:25
TJ-!paste | eli20:26
ubottueli: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:26
innocent95actually i get 4 of them20:26
eli_i wasn't going to paste everything20:26
eli_just the starting of each line20:26
eli_to see if there were missing lines20:26
TJ-eli_: We usually use pastebin to share file contents, it's much easier than sharing multiple lines of text with 1600 people :)20:27
eli_Defaults, root, %admin, %sudo20:27
IdleOneeli_: use the pastebin it is much easier and less spammy in the channel20:27
eli_TJ: yes, but I am afradi to copy-paste on the terminal while reading a file, I don't want to modifyit!20:27
TJ-eli_: This is the "/etc/sudoers" from 14.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117029/20:28
eli_and I feel so clumsy20:28
eli_TJ thanks a lot!20:28
eli_TJ, wafflejock, alive4ever: I apparently deleted a couple of lines accidentally, but the changes weren't saved20:30
eli_even if it said: recording20:30
eli_so the file is OK20:31
wafflejockeli_: don't worry, it's easy to feel beat up when your troubleshooting problems suppose it's good to mention it's always good to cp fileImGonnaChange fileImGonnaChange.bak just in case20:31
wafflejockeli_: if you check out the man page on visudo it has options for checking the /etc/sudoers file as well, I'd seen that before but not used it20:32
eli_wafflejock: I knew about backups but I'm not used to do them. I'll learn about it20:32
eli_I'll keep that command20:33
wafflejockyeah simple copy just in case20:33
syllopsiumfuck.. so that's why I'm having so many problems. Seriously, raring ringtail was only supported for 9 months!?20:33
wafflejockeli_: if you do cat /etc/sudoers              it will just print it out to the console too without opening it for possible editing20:33
IdleOnesyllopsium: yes, please no swearing in here20:34
jhutchinssyllopsium: The price we pay for shiney new software.20:35
syllopsium*9 months* though?20:35
wafflejockI just stick with LTSeses20:35
eli_wafflejock: nice20:35
TJ-syllopsium: that's 3 months longer than it took to release the next version :)20:36
wafflejock14.04 is good for 5 years everywhere at least20:36
syllopsiumseriously? I'm presuming the only way I can upgrade is via cd20:36
syllopsiumand that dist-upgrade is a no20:36
syllopsiumand I'm having a lot of hassle trying to disable unity, and my desktop logon is broken for some reason.20:37
jhutchinssyllopsium: Even RedHat does dist-upgrades now.20:37
TJ-!eol | syllopsium20:37
ubottusyllopsium: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:37
jhutchinssyllopsium: Sounds like a clean install might be a good idea anyway.20:37
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syllopsiumthank you for the link20:38
wafflejockyeah I have a ceremony where I upgrade then find some problems, then backup all my data (clonezilla plus NAS backup of regular files), clean install everything is great, move back my files from the NAS realize I need something from the clonezilla image still, make a new clonezilla image restore the old one, move the other files I forgot originally to the NAS re-image to the new system and I'm good :), lucily on my AWS box the server20:40
wafflejock upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 went smoother than that20:40
eli_wafflejock: I read both threads about sudo and admins. I don't know what do I have to do next20:41
wafflejockeli_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit20:42
wafflejockthis utility will make sharing the files with us easier on you and us20:42
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eli_wafflejock: done!20:43
wafflejockeli_: k cool so now you can do, sudo cat /etc/sudoers | pastebinit20:43
wafflejockeli_: that should spit you back a URL you can drop here for us to checkout20:44
wafflejockeli_: also groups | pastebinit20:44
eli_wafflejock: ooh how nice!20:44
wafflejockeli_: yeah pretty sweet eh20:44
eli_wafflejock: first one http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117108/20:44
eli_wafflejock: second one http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117110/20:45
wafflejockeli_: you might also want to try, sudo visudo -c20:45
wafflejockeli_: nothing popping out immediately but that will check the sudoers file too for syntax problems20:46
eli_wafflejock: /etc/sudoers: parsed OK /etc/sudoers.d/README: parsed OK20:46
wafflejockeli_: what flavor of ubuntu is it exactly, you said not using Unity right?20:46
TJ-eli_: what is the issue? I think I missed it!20:47
wafflejockTJ-: can't mount drives20:47
TJ-wafflejock: Thanks. eli_ how are you trying to mount the drives (GUI file-manager, or from the shell) ?20:47
eli_wafflejock: I think it's gnome. And nope, no unity20:48
anarkhos"sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ntfs" <--- is this about the simplest command there is to mount an NTFS partition as read-only?20:48
eli_TJ: the drives don't automount when plugging in, after the upgrade20:48
eli_TJ: and i also have other issues20:48
wafflejockeli_: yeah no users account permissions etc. right20:49
eli_TJ: can't change used advanced settings, can't install or uninstall form software center, can't change disks settings20:49
eli_yeo20:49
eli_*yes20:49
wafflejockTJ-: sounded to me like was missing from the admin group, and he originally wasn't in the sudo group20:49
wafflejockTJ-: but now that's all in place, not sure what else could be wrong... someone yesterday who was using lightdm switched to gdm and for whatever reason that fixed it but not in this case20:50
TJ-wafflejock: eli_  so "eli" user has recently been added to the "sudo" group?20:50
Grant__ect-trillek20:50
arpdSo I installed openssh-server, and just connected, but I cannot use sudo (user is not in sudoers file), but I could do so when I was physically at my machine, and not connected over ssh. Is there something I can do from my now remote session?20:50
eli_TJ: yes20:50
TJ-eli_: Have you completely logged out and logged in again since adding "eli" to the "sudo" group?20:50
eli_TJ: yes20:51
arpdIf it helps, my machine still has 7 or 8 terminal sessions connected, can I redirect one of those to my current connection?20:51
eli_TJ: should I reboot instead of just doing logout-login?20:51
TJ-eli_: No.20:51
eli_TJ: but i am on the sudo group now, it says so on groups20:51
TJ-eli_: I was going to suggest checking the "/var/log/auth.log" but you'd need sudo permissions to do that :)20:51
eli_i can do sudo on the terminal20:52
wafflejockTJ-: he can successfully run commands with sudo20:52
wafflejockright just some gui thing20:52
eli_(I'm a she, by the way)20:52
TJ-eli_: OK ... and you can use 'sudo' of course20:52
eli_yes, I can20:52
wafflejockeli_: maybe sudo apt-get install gksu --reinstall ?? << TJ-?20:52
eli_I've been using it all this week20:52
wafflejockeli_: gksudo is the graphical one that prompts you20:53
TJ-eli_: Best to focus on one of them, and I think "software center" is the easiest20:53
eli_aren't all my issues related?20:53
wafflejockk go with TJ here generally knows best20:53
ryan_anyone know how to get macbuntu like for xfce to work20:53
eli_it seems to me as a privileges issue, as I am always getting messages like: "not authorized"20:53
eli_so i don't run sudo apt-get install gksu --reinstall then?20:54
eli_and do I check the "/var/log/auth.log" then?20:54
wafflejockeli_: don't think it can hurt really but TJ- typically has the right track20:54
FreeSomeHow do I forward data retrieved using ‘echo’ to my webserver?20:55
wafflejockeli_: checking the log is no change20:55
eli_yes, but TJ suggested it20:55
wafflejockeli_: I always do the things that don't change the system first always good to check the logs when you're having problems really20:55
eli_maybe to see it on pastebin?20:55
anarkhoshey again wafflejock20:55
arpdSo I installed openssh-server, and just connected, but I cannot use sudo (user is not in sudoers file), but I could do so when I was physically at my machine, and not connected over ssh. Is there something I can do from my now remote session? I have several local terminal sessions still active (under the same username), can I reroute any of those perhaps?20:55
fribim trying to turn off monitor with "xset dpms force off" but it only lasts 2 seconds.  anyone know how to fix? thanks20:55
eli_ah ok sorry i didn't understand20:55
TJ-eli_: At a terminal shell run the S.C. by typing "software-center-gtk3". This will run it but we should see any errors in the terminal window when they happen20:55
anarkhoswafflejock: what would you prefer of the following?: "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ntfs" or "mount -r /dev/sda2 /mnt/ntfs"20:56
TJ-eli_: Then, in the S.C. GUI try to install some trivial software package so we can trigger the issue. When it fails, take a look in the terminal window and lets see what messages (if any) it reports20:56
wafflejockanarkhos: not sure what you're asking there my mount foo is limited :)20:57
anarkhoswafflejock: im just curious about the simplest way of mounting an NTFS partition as read-only20:58
eli_TJ: 2014-08-22 22:57:45,434 - softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: 'AuthorizationFailed(u"('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.257'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages",)' '<AptTransaction object at 0x940509dc (aptdaemon+client+AptTransaction at 0xb012680)>' 'five-or-more'20:58
eli_TJ: sorry, I should have pastebined it20:58
TJ-eli_: That's fine, it's one line20:58
eli_TJ: I don't know how to, though20:58
TJ-eli_: OK, I know where we are now20:58
TJ-eli_: give me a few minutes to look up the solution; I saw this a few days ago too20:58
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eli_thanks TJ :)20:59
wafflejockanarkhos: yeah not sure about that20:59
anarkhosok20:59
wafflejockanarkhos: I thought -t was required honestly but perhaps it can autodetect the filesystem21:00
anarkhoshmm21:00
anarkhoswafflejock: the longer one certainly works. the shorter one is simpler, but -might- not work, that's your point?21:01
wafflejockanarkhos: no wrong on that just checked the man page21:01
wafflejock-t is optional21:01
anarkhosok...21:01
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wafflejockanarkhos: think most of the examples I've seen just have it explicitly though21:02
Guest6021I'm looking to recover my passphrase.  Someone had given me the command line command, but I lost it.21:02
anarkhosok21:02
wafflejockGuest6021: think this is it ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase21:03
trijntjedoes anybody know how to report bugs for steam on ubuntu?21:03
Guest6021I"m gonna try that. thx21:03
wafflejocktrijntje: probably just here http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=91221:04
TJ-eli_: This is bug 78511721:04
ubottubug 785117 in software-center (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] silently fails to install software after PolicyKit error" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78511721:04
anarkhoswafflejock: how to check the umask of a partition?21:04
FreeSomeHow do I forward data retrieved using ‘echo’ to my webserver?21:04
bekksanarkhos: partitions dont have a umask.21:04
anarkhoshmm ok21:04
Sander^laphow do I set up a second wlan interface (connected over usb)?21:04
arpdFreeSome: you can use 'netcat'21:04
anarkhosbekks: so, how do i know what the correct umask is?21:05
bekksanarkhos: correct umask for what?21:05
wafflejockanarkhos: yeah you set the umask it's just allowing you to control the permissions http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html21:05
bekksanarkhos: Did you change the umask?21:05
TJ-eli_: There's a service that should be running in each user session, PolicyKit, which for some reason isn't enabled for your user's session. So, we need to enable that21:05
wafflejockbekks: with regard to using mount21:05
FreeSomeTy arpd will look into that21:05
Sander^laphow do I set up a second wlan interface (connected over usb)?21:05
awesomess3FreeSome, echo whatever >> /var/www/output.txt  #? orrrrr...hmm...idk21:06
bekkswafflejock: Then most likely uid and gid mount options are to be preferred.21:06
anarkhosbekks: no, but the example of mounting an ntfs partition that i came across includes a part about umask=, so i thought it was mandatory21:06
arpdSo I installed openssh-server, and just connected, but I cannot use sudo (user is not in sudoers file), but I could do so when I was physically at my machine, and not connected over ssh. Is there something I can do from my now remote session? I have several local terminal sessions still active (under the same username), can I reroute any of those perhaps? I am using ubuntu utopic unicorn preview21:06
eli_TJ: and is that related to my mounting problem, too?21:06
wafflejockbekks: fair enough I didn't have much info for anarkhos about mount21:06
bekksanarkhos: Ah, umask on ntfs - thats a workaround actually, since ntfs doesnt know about linux permissions at all.21:06
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trijntjewafflejock, I'm a bit confused by the navigation on that forum. Is the page you linked for bugs about all games or only DogFighter?21:07
anarkhosbekks: yeah im learning about mounting ntfs partitions as read-only21:07
genaerfthey21:07
bekksanarkhos: So mount them as "ro".21:07
eli_TJ: should i try this? "First thing to do is to check that the policy kit authentication agent is activated in your list of start up programmes."21:07
TJ-eli_: Yes, it's all because the PolicyKit agent isn't there to get permissions for these privileged operations. I don't use Unity/Gnome so I can't guide you to precisely where to find the Session auto-start programs dialog box is, but maybe wafflejock or someone else who use those can help you there.21:07
StevenXLHello everyone; I reinstalled my linux system, but I had created an id_rsa key; how can I import that "identity" into my new system?21:07
genaerftI changed the board and CPU and RAM and no Grub refuses to boot. because of wrong uuids21:08
wafflejocktrijntje: ah sorry that was just for that game21:08
StevenXLI have copied the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub key but don't know what to do from there21:08
TJ-eli_: Yes, that's exactly what you need to do21:08
anarkhosbekks: here are two examples ive found: "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ntfs" or "mount -r /dev/sda2 /mnt/ntfs"21:08
eli_TJ: I use gnome, but not unity. I found the auto-start dialog box21:08
anarkhosbekks: what do you think is preferable?21:08
TJ-eli_: Do you see PolicyKit listed there?21:08
wafflejocktrijntje: you have a problem with Steam itself?21:08
bekksanarkhos: mount the ntfs filesystem as ro.21:08
eli_nope21:08
TJ-eli_: That's not going to help then :)21:08
genaerftdo I need to correct the UUIDs? bklid shows no difference (via boot-repair)21:08
bekksanarkhos: the first command will not force it to be read-only.21:09
anarkhosbekks: what is the command you would haev used?21:09
anarkhosok21:09
bekksanarkhos: mount -o ro21:09
trijntjewafflejock, portal2 keeps crashing on a certain community test chamber, bug I guess the portal2 bug page is thishttp://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184905421:09
eli_TJ: can't I add it?21:09
anarkhosbekks: ok thanks ill try21:09
genaerfthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8116143/21:09
TJ-eli_: Does this show the file exists: "ls -l /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop"21:10
Sander^lapHave anyone managed to get a usb wireless card working?21:10
eli_TJ: oh wait, those were the ADDITIONAL startup programs21:10
mjrbordoHello. I have problem with mozilla or system configuration. I mean that on google translete or other similar sites i can't hear the speaker21:10
wafflejocktrijntje: maybe here too https://github.com/ValveSoftware/portal2/issues21:10
eli_maybe there is another dialog box?21:10
eli_I will look for it21:10
trijntjewafflejock, yeah, its not really clear, looks like someone reported the same issue here as well https://github.com/ValveSoftware/portal2/issues/14721:10
eli_TJ: the result to your command was: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 358 Feb 11  2012 /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop21:11
exarkunSander^lap: Sure21:11
anarkhosbekks: and now id like to use the FIND command to search that partition for some key words. i was told earlier that that is not harmful21:11
bubbasaurearpd utopic is #ubuntu+121:11
TJ-eli_: OK, so the file is there. As the directory name infers, that should auto-start... so it is possible it starts but then stops through some kind of error21:11
LamP0Hello. Is there a way to allow only certain file formats to upload to samba share?21:11
trijntjeI wish I knew a workaround, but steam automatically selects the chambers for you in order, so I cant even play untill they fix this :(21:11
exarkunSander^lap: edimax works out of the box21:11
arpdbubbasaure: I don't think this is a utopic specific question but thanks, I'll ask there too21:11
anarkhosso "find /mnt/ntfs -name xubuntu" shouldn't cause any trouble i reckon21:12
wafflejocktrijntje: can't edit the save files to take it out or something huh?21:12
Sander^lapexarkun, I have an asus one.. its supposed to work out of the box. Do you know what I need to type in, to choose it?21:12
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TJ-eli_: If you can find the system autostart programs list that'd be the place to ensure this is set to start for your user account. Really we need someone that uses gnome 3 and knows where that should be21:13
trijntjewafflejock, I don't think so, community test chambers are downloaded from the net automatically21:13
wafflejocktrijntje: yeah maybe doesn't even get written to disk21:13
eli_TJ: I ran gnome-session-properties and got "startup application preferences" Additional startup programs. The same dialog box21:13
exarkunSander^lap: When you plug it in and run `lsusb`, does one of the lines in the output (there is one for every usb device you have) correspond to the device?  It might help to run lsusb before you plug it in so you can compare the output.21:14
eli_TJ: with just 8 applications, one of which I added myself21:14
eli_TJ: so should I add "/usr/lib/polkit-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1" to the list of applications?21:15
exarkunSander^lap: And what version of Ubuntu are you using?21:16
trijntjewafflejock, I'm asking in #steamlug now, thanks for your help21:16
Sander^lapexarkun, 14.0421:16
eli_TJ: excuse me, not that one, because there is no such file or directory21:17
TJ-eli_: I'm not sure. I'm reading conflicting information about what Gnome 3 does regarding auto-start programs21:17
wafflejocktrijntje: np good luck, portal 2 is a fun one21:18
eli_TJ: I read this http://gnomeshell.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/manage-the-startup-applications/ there's the command for the policykit one; don't know if it'll work21:18
anarkhosyea the searching on the ntfs partition works, great21:19
wafflejockanarkhos: nice yeah you shouldn't have any problems glad you peeps got it sorted21:20
TJ-eli_: Good catch - I'd say that looks like being worth trying. My concern is that your current list doesn't display it yet you already have the .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart/21:21
stillaftermathHi all, I need to alter a service script on Ubuntu 12.04 to run an additional command -    │ actinide21:21
stillaftermath                        | specifically, I have a VPN server that creates a tap adapter, and once that's done, I need │ active821:21
stillaftermath                        | to run an /sbin/ifconfig command on the newly created virtual adapter to set it's IP.      │ adamm21:21
stillaftermath                        | What's the best way to do this? I tried just sticking the command in after the line that   │ adreno21:21
stillaftermath                        | starts the VPN server, but that didn't work21:21
stillaftermath...damnit. sorry.21:21
unopastestillaftermath you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted21:22
helter_clear21:23
arpdSo I installed openssh-server, and just connected, but I cannot use sudo (user is not in sudoers file), but I could do so when I was physically at my machine, and not connected over ssh. Is there something I can do from my now remote session? I have several local terminal sessions still active (under the same username), can I reroute any of those perhaps? Am I shit out of luck?21:23
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anarkhosso, searching for "bla" works, as well as "bla*", but "*.bla" doesn't seem to work well. am i missing something?21:23
eli_TJ. I browsed it and fount it at /usr/lib/policykit1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-121:23
eli_or something like that21:24
theadminanarkhos: Searching how?21:24
TJ-eli_: Yes, I saw it lives there from doing "apt-file list policykit-1-gnome"21:24
eli_TJ: now, should I reboot, or just a logout-login will do21:24
TJ-eli_: logout is sufficient21:24
eli_TJ: ok, I'll try, thanks a lot TJ!21:24
anarkhostharkun: find /mnt/ntfs -name *.txt21:24
anarkhostheadmin21:25
theadminanarkhos: Put that in single quotes to avoid shell expansions21:25
anarkhosoh21:25
theadminanarkhos: find /mnt/ntfs -name '*.txt'21:25
anarkhosyeah that worked, thank you21:25
theadminanarkhos: Also, in this kind of search you may want -iname rather than -name (case-insensetive)21:26
anarkhosanother problem: how to enter directories with space in their names?21:26
theadminanarkhos: Escape spaces or use quotes. For example, if you have a directory named "blah blah", you can do either "cd blah\ blah" or "cd 'blah blah'"21:27
eli_NJ: unfortunately, it didn't work21:27
eli_NJ: and I even got a message when logging in, about the software center21:28
theadminanarkhos: Also, you can type few first characters of the folder's name, then hit Tab, shell will complete the rest, handling escapes/quoting.21:28
faelhs:D21:28
faelhsOi galera :D21:28
fribi just decided to start using fluxbox.  but when i close laptop lid pc suspends and i don't want it to.  what can I do? thanks21:28
kostkon!pt | faelhs21:29
ubottufaelhs: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.21:29
eli_sorry, I wrote the wrong name21:29
eli_TJ:  unfortunately, it didn't work21:29
eli_TJ: and I even got a message when logging in, about the software center, internal error21:29
anarkhostheadmin: tab didn't handle anything. ill try the other methods21:30
Sander^lapexarkun, I suppose I need to blacklist the built in one?21:31
TJ-eli_: Do you see a running program listed if you do "ps -efly | grep policy" ?21:31
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TJ-eli_: I see "S root      2215     1  0  80   0  8456 70593 poll_s Aug15 ?        00:00:17 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug"21:31
anarkhostheadmin: sorry tab did handle it. i neglected a case sensitivity21:31
eli_TJ: I see two lines21:31
eli_first one: S root       969     1  0  80   0  4928  9102 poll_s 21:27 ?        00:00:02 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug21:31
eli_second one: S eli      14969 14900  0  80   0   820  1173 pipe_w 23:31 pts/4    00:00:00 grep --color=auto policy21:31
TJ-eli_: OK, so that is the service running21:32
datahi, i am looking for information on how to update a module source package. Reason being: We need the newest kernel, but the openvswitch-datapath package does not support the newer kernels. Therefore I would like to update its package21:33
TJ-eli_: Without hands-on it's difficult to know what else to look at.21:34
eli_TJ: ok, don't worry, thank you very much21:34
eli_TJ: at least now I know it's something related to that authentication stuff21:35
snake69hi there im trying to solve this issue with vsftpd not working on amazons ubuntu 14 image https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/131345021:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1313450 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "Unable to start vsftpd on Ubuntu 14.04 (Amazon/EC2 or Xen) with default configuration" [High,Fix released]21:35
snake69i installed what i thought was the correct linux-image but the problem persists21:35
snake69can someone point me in the right direction21:35
eli_TJ: I'll leave it for now (I have a lot of work to do) and I'll try again a couple of weeks later21:36
TJ-eli_: hang on... check this: "ps -efly | grep polk" ... do you get more than 2 lines?21:36
eli_TJ: just two21:36
eli_TJ: first: S root       969     1  0  80   0  4928  9102 poll_s 21:27 ?        00:00:02 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug21:37
eli_TJ: second: S eli      14990 14900  0  80   0   824  1173 pipe_w 23:36 pts/4    00:00:00 grep --color=auto polk21:37
TJ-eli_: We got the issue!21:37
eli_TJ: really? :)21:37
TJ-eli_: On mine, there's a "polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1" running21:37
TJ-eli_: I'm using KDE, so you won't have that, but there should be the equivilent for Gnome21:38
eli_TJ: and is it solvable?21:38
skulltipcould someone test out my little demo distribution?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8ur742gtc5y7ai/mytest-Linux.zip     It's written with JME3 and is the default demo, just extract and click 'launch.sh'. I get 15k FPS on my machine.21:40
TJ-eli_: That agent you added to the autostart list has failed to start. We need to know why, so let's start it manually from the shell and see "/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &"21:41
eli_TJ: eli@elisa-laptop:~$ /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &21:43
eli_[1] 1513021:43
eli_eli@elisa-laptop:~$21:43
eli_(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:15130): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid 1513021:43
awesomess3skulltip, you meant 15 FPS, right?21:43
TJ-eli_: hmmm. has it stopped running? type "jobs" and see if it is listed as running or stopped21:43
skulltipno, 15000 FPS. it's just a cube, you use mouse to move view around it and the numbers are displayed in the window21:44
eli_TJ: jobs21:44
eli_[1]+  Exit 1                  /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-121:44
TJ-eli_: Right, so we're onto the real problem then, which is more than we were 5 minutes ago21:44
TJ-eli_: I'll check bug reports for " Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid"21:44
TJ-eli_: bug 124033621:45
ubottubug 1240336 in policykit-desktop-privileges (Ubuntu) "Not authorized to perform operation / Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124033621:45
TJ-eli_: This could well fix your issue: "sudo pam-auth-update --force"21:48
eli_TJ: I get a window21:48
eli_TJ: PAM configuration21:48
eli_TJ: there are 3 options: unix authentication, winbind NT/active directory authentication, and register user sessions in the systemd control group hierarchy21:49
TJ-eli_: hmmm! let me check on that :)21:49
TJ-eli_: Ok, running it here too. Are all the options selected (the "*" is present in between the "[ ]" on the left of each item?21:50
eli_TJ: yes21:51
Alopexswitching distro... 1. install software 2. replace home or otherway around or.... 1. copy all from home 2. install software 3. replace home stuff again?21:51
eli_TJ: some people on the thread said post number 32 helped them, though21:51
TJ-eli_: Good :) ... now press the Tab key to get to the "<OK>" button and press the Space bar21:51
grr-distupgradehey guys, is there a way i can do a dist-upgrade to a specific version? I have a server running 12.04.3 and i want to upgrade it to 12.04.421:51
eli_TJ: done21:52
eli_TJ: look, there's one who says: "21:52
eli_In my case #19 didn't work but appending21:52
eli_ session required pam_loginuid.so21:52
eli_ session required pam_systemd.so21:52
eli_to /etc/pam.d/lxdm fixed everything.21:52
eli_"21:53
unopasteeli_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted21:53
TJ-eli_: Do a reboot, test. If that doesn't solve it completely try the recommendations in that bug report in comment #32 and #33. Bookmark that bug report, too!21:53
eeeegrr-distupgrade: i think that's what dist-upgrade does, do-release-upgrade will take you to another release (14.04.1)21:53
grr-distupgradedist-upgrade will upgrade to the newest version i think, which is 12.04.521:53
eeeeah21:53
askonhello everyone, just a question struggling to find on the net, why am i requested to enter my pass 4 times before i actually get into the system?21:53
eli_TJ I'll do that, thanks a lot!21:54
TJ-eli_: It's important to try one solution at a time, so we know what each achieves21:54
eli_ok, rebooting21:54
usr13 grr-distupgrade That is not a distribution upgrade, it is a point release upgrade, but all you need to do is keep your system up-to-date.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  *(BTW, we are up to 12.04.5 now)21:54
grr-distupgradeyes but i want to go to 12.04.421:55
usr13eeee: I don't think that is what he wants.21:55
grr-distupgradei have 4 servers in a cassandra cluster, 3 of them are on 12.04.4 and the 4th is on 12.04.321:55
Alopexguys should i'm switching distro should i install the new software first or after copying all the ~/.___ folders ? or even before and after?21:55
usr13grr-distupgrade: The point release is different from the actual version, 12.04 is the version, .3 or .4 is the point release numbers21:56
kostkongrr-distupgrade, if you are up-to-date you are already on 12.04.5  if you are talking about the specific X and kernel stacks of each point release then check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack21:57
Alopexanyone?21:57
askon5th time in here with the same question, totally ignored, thanks everyone21:57
usr13askon: What is your question?21:58
Alopexaskon: are you sure you are typing it correctly?21:58
fribi just installed fluxbox in ubuntu and any program that tries to create sound freezes permanently .. what can I do?21:58
askonyep, 4 times to log in into the system, what else could be ?21:58
Alopexaskon: tried to change pw?21:58
usr13askon: What else could *what* be?21:58
LostNvaaskon: what does it say if anything the first few times you type it21:59
askonnothing just another window for the pass21:59
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usr13askon: 2 possibilities:  1) user-name  2) password21:59
grr-distupgradekostkon: thanks good info21:59
kostkongrr-distupgrade, np21:59
Alopexaskon: are you sure you are not typing passwd ?22:00
askoni do22:00
usr13askon: Hint:  They are both case sensitive.22:00
Alopexthat CHANGES the password22:00
askonafter typing it 4 times correctly everything works fine22:00
Alopexhttp://serverfault.com/questions/370829/passwd-asks-for-new-password-4-times22:00
Alopexhttp://www.unix.com/suse/249463-suse-passwd-username-ask-password-4-times.html22:00
askon4 times consecutive correctly22:00
usr13askon: What happens after the 4th time?22:01
askoneveerything works fine22:01
askoni just need to type it 1 time22:01
eli_TJ: It worked!!!Hurray! :)22:01
askongoogled it and nothing22:01
usr13askon: I think you need to start over.  What is your question?  (What exactly is your problem?)22:01
Alopexaskon: if you do sudo -s   do you have to type it 4 times too?22:02
eli_TJ: I keep getting windows with error messages though. but everything works now! it mounts and the software center can install stuff22:02
askonAloepx didn't try it though22:02
Alopexaskon: try it first22:02
usr13askon: What exactly are you logging into?22:02
eli_TJ: i didn't have to follow #32, i just rebooted after following #19 and that did it22:02
askonusr13, to be able to work i need to type in my pass 4 times each time22:02
askonusr13, just name and pass22:03
annoymouseSo I installed Ubuntu onto the USB thumb drive (following everyone's directions), yet it's not showing up in my Mac's boot menu...22:03
askonand the the pass pass pass22:03
askonand then the pass pass pass22:03
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eli_TJ: nevertheless, i will keep #32 and 33 on a text file, just in case...22:04
usr13askon: I for one, do not understand what you are trying to tell us.22:04
annoymouseI only had the root partition, and I installed the bootloader on the device itself.22:04
LostNvausr13: he logs into system I think, and enters pass 4 times before it lets him in.22:04
annoymouseDoes Ubuntu support boot.efi (the  default Mac boot loader)?22:04
annoymouse*bootloader22:04
Kai__yes22:05
usr13LostNva: So we assume, but what *really* is he doing?22:05
Kai__it's not only a mac bootloader anymore22:05
Kai__new pc have uefi too22:05
Kai__pcs*22:05
Alopexcan someone quickly answer my question?22:05
Alopexguys should i'm switching distro should i install the new software first or after copying all the ~/.___ folders ? or even before and after?22:05
annoymouseKai__: But Mac uses a modified version of the UEFI standard22:05
askonusr1, sorry, just starting up the system after the sleep, it requires me the password and username, entering the username and the password, then it goes back to the login screen and asks for the password 3 more times until i am able to work22:05
usr13Alopex: Copy them where?22:06
Kai__yeah22:06
Alopexusr13: on new machine from backup22:06
askonusr1, if a fresh reboot it asks only once for the username and the password22:06
rh1n0annoymouse you could try http://refit.sourceforge.net/22:06
annoymouseKai__: So why do you think it's not showing up as a bootable drive in the boot menu?22:06
eeeeAlopex: copy them later22:06
Kai__but in essence it's the same stu22:06
eli_TJ: I bookmarked the bug, and thank you very much TJ, I am very grateful; and so am I to wafflejock22:06
Kai__stuff*22:06
usr13askon: Oh, so the issue is with recovering from "sleep"?22:06
annoymouserh1n0: I don't want to replace the boot loader?22:06
annoymousedidn't mean the ?22:06
rh1n0gotcha22:06
Kai__ubuntu has special mac+pc images available22:07
rh1n0are you trying to install or boot from the usb stick?22:07
Alopexeeee: ok thx thats what i thought, because maybe the programs overwrite my stuff right?22:07
askonusr13, the issue is that i have to log in 4 time everytime i go out from sleep22:07
eeeeAlopex: yeah22:07
Alopexeeee: i.e on first launch22:07
Alopexthx22:07
eeeenp22:07
annoymouserh1n0: I already installed onto the USB stick, but the USB stick isn't showing up in the boot menu22:07
annoymouseAnd I'm pretty sure I did everything correctly...22:07
kostkonAlopex, they are gonna do it anyway, the next time you run them22:07
estragon_hello22:08
usr13askon: I think the choices are Suspend and Hibertate. Don't know which you are using but which ever... it's not working well for you so my advise is to just not use it.22:09
usr13askon: (turn it off)22:09
annoymouseKai__ and rh1n0: And ideas?22:10
askonusr13, it looks to me that i have upgraded ubuntu 4 times and it asks for the login for every upgrade, this explaines me the each login, it even changes the login screen for each .04.10. .04.10 distribution, but i really enjoy to use the "sleep", "suspend" option, any ideas?22:10
Kai__what did you use to install it on the stick?22:11
annoymouseKai__: I used the default installer from another USB stick22:11
Kai__try YUMI/Universal USB Installer/UNetbootin22:11
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TJ-eli_: that's great :)22:11
Kai__any of these should do the job22:11
annoymouseKai__: It's strange that my method didn't work though22:12
annoymouseI was trying to avoid a "third-party" software22:12
Kai__this one should work fine22:12
Kai__nah22:12
usr13askon: it "changes the login screen for each .04.10. .04.10 distribution"?  Not at all sure what you are talking about.22:12
askonUsr13, i mean 04. 14 or something, the way they are upgraded.. sorry quite a noob22:12
Kai__welcome to the world of free software22:12
usr13askon: What is your native language?22:12
askonromanian22:13
usr13Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro22:13
eli_TJ: it was nice being helped by you, I learnt new stuff (at my newbie level of course). Thanks a lot!22:13
Kai__those programs are designed to create bootable linux usb sticks22:14
askonthanks22:14
eli_bye everyone22:15
Kai__bye22:15
sundropwill touchscreen monitors work with Ubuntu 12.04?22:17
askonusr13, sorry no one on that channel, maybe you still have some ideas? what do you not understand?22:20
askonP.S. clicking on the "password" setting and it is not workable22:23
LostNvaaskon: how does your computer work otherwise, is it really slow or anything?22:25
askonno it is good22:25
LostNvaaskon: do you have a swap partition?22:25
askonjust annoying thing to log in 4 times after closing the screen22:26
askonyes i do sir22:26
askon4 gigs22:26
askonas my RAM is22:26
Zer000how can I see what ubuntu is doing on startup - I want to see why a network drive (nfs) is not being mounted22:26
LostNvaaskon: when it goes to sleep is the screensaver also running?22:27
askonno, turned the saver off22:27
Sander^lapHow do I select which band to use for a wireless interface?22:27
LostNvaaskon: i really don't have any ideas, but did you try waiting a min or so before trying the password from sleep?22:28
LostNvaaskon: it sounds like its not ready or ignoring your password entry because its just running hard doing something.22:29
nashantHey, how do I see which disk is attached to ata1.00 ?22:29
Beldartext | Zer00022:30
Beldar!text | Zer00022:30
ubottuZer000: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode22:30
askonyep, it goes, one password request 2 times in a row with the same background image, after that i can do something on my desktop for about 30 secs and then another request for 2 passwords with an older ubuntu background22:30
askonthis is why i can't find a solution in googleing22:31
Zer000Beldar, isn't there a log?22:31
askonnobody knows about it22:31
BeldarZer000, Not sure I never look at logs.22:32
HellTigerhello, after do-release-upgrade i got the question to remove obsolente packages, i pressed details, now i hang in this screen, whats the trick to get over it_22:33
HellTiger?22:33
askonLostNva it looks i will have to reinstall the system, thanks for the help22:34
LostNvaaskon: why22:34
askonLostNva what else can i do? it is obviously coming from previous upgrades22:35
eeeeaskon: can you access the system right now?22:35
LostNvaaskon: I'd sleep on it a while and keep checking22:35
askoni am typing from it, it works good, the thing is that i need to write my pass 4 times after the sleep before accessing the system22:36
eeeeaskon: cat /etc/pam.d/common-auth22:36
eeeepaste what you get22:37
eeee!paste22:37
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:37
BeldarHellTiger, A upgrade needs to be with the stock packages if you have added 3rd party repos and or ppa's purge them to return to packages from the ubuntu repos.22:37
askoncat /etc/pam.d/common-auth22:37
Beldar!ppa-purge | HellTiger22:37
ubottuHellTiger: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html22:37
askonsorry22:37
askon# /etc/pam.d/common-auth - authentication settings common to all services22:38
askon#22:38
askon# This file is included from other service-specific PAM config files,22:38
askon# and should contain a list of the authentication modules that define22:38
askon# the central authentication scheme for use on the system22:38
askon# (e.g., /etc/shadow, LDAP, Kerberos, etc.).  The default is to use the22:38
unopasteaskon you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted22:38
HellTigeri just was hanging in the screen, i did now ctrl c and it proceed to upgrade22:38
BeldarHellTiger, Look if there is a hidden popup on the screen.22:38
netsjanekhi22:39
netsjanekwhy litwa is banned22:39
eeeeaskon: use the link22:39
Beldaraskon, Did you see the pastebin info from the bot?22:39
askonyes i did, got it22:39
Beldarnetsjanek, Ask in #ubuntu-ops22:40
askonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8117747/22:40
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ac_slater_hey all, I want to automate `dpkg-reconfigure dash` (to choose bash) ... what's a good way to do this non-interactively?22:40
askoneeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117747/22:42
eeeeok22:42
eeeeaskon: type sudo nano /etc/pam.d/common-auth22:44
eeeeaskon: in the line "auth[success=1 default=ignore]pam_winbind.so krb5_auth krb5_ccache_type=FILE cached_login try_first_pass" , change try_first_pass to use_first_pass22:46
askoneeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117777/22:46
eeeeaskon: dont type "type"22:46
askonsorry, sec22:47
askonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8117792/22:48
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eeeeok go down to where it says auth[success=1 default=ignore]pam_winbind.so krb5_auth krb5_ccache_type=FILE cached_login try_first_pass22:48
MonkeyDustguys, the !dns factoid is outdated... how do i set the dns permanently?22:48
askoneeee : is it good?22:49
eeeeaskon: yes22:49
eeeewait a sec22:49
eeeeare you in nano? or you did sudo nano .... | pastebinit22:50
askonjust sudo22:50
eeee( after the | pastebinit )22:50
eeeeso you're in the text editor right now?22:50
askonnope, terminal22:50
uhhhcan some one help me out? my wifi keeps d/c'ing, I can see OTHER available networks but not mine22:50
eeeeok, run the command again without | pastebinit22:51
uhhhrebooting fixes this, but everything works fine on windows22:51
uhhh03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723AE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter22:51
uhhh04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289 (rev 01)22:51
uhhh04:00.2 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0a)22:51
askondon't get it, could please paste it here?22:52
OerHeksMonkeyDust, put it in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  & update it > sudo resolvconf -u22:52
askoneeee : don't get it, could please paste it here?22:53
eeeeaskon: sudo nano /etc/pam.d/common-auth22:53
eeeedon't add anything to it22:53
MonkeyDustOerHeks  just found it, but tnx22:53
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glkhi22:55
askoneeee: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117826/22:55
wafflejockglk: hello22:55
glki have some scripts which are running screen sessions on some parameters, sometimes, these screen sessions are started fine and sometimes they're dead22:56
glkwhere should i look for a reason for this?22:56
glksome suggestions?22:56
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eeeeaskon: nano is a text editor, stop using pastebinit22:57
eeeeaskon: just type "sudo nano /etc/pam.d/common-auth"22:58
eeeeaskon: it will open a text based editor, called nano22:58
eeeeaskon: you can edit and save22:58
askoneeee sec22:59
askoneeee: no editor, just the terminal23:00
eeeeaskon: the editor is in the terminal23:00
askonyes23:00
askonnot familiar with it though, sorry23:00
sajanhello23:00
sajani m new to ubuntu23:00
askonwrite out?23:01
sajancan any one teach me how to install .gz file23:01
askonbeen using the DOS for some time in the past :)23:01
sajani have downloaded java from website23:01
sajani want to install23:01
sajanno23:01
ubuntu-studiosorry OOT just want to share my art maybe anyone need it23:01
ubuntu-studiohttp://www.fiverr.com/s/521ho623:02
eeeeaskon: gksu gedit /etc/pam.d/common-auth23:02
uhhhdoes anyone know of driver updates for realtek 8723ae?23:02
eeeeaskon: it's extremely easy, ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to exit, and the rest is ordinary23:02
askonoh, here it goes si23:02
askonoh, here it goes sir23:03
uhhhbecause I can't reboot every time my wifi d/c's, might have to just use windows23:03
wafflejockuhhh: usually the easiest way is to lspci then use the identifier at the beginning of the line for the hardware to search for your version of ubuntu23:03
askoneeee: ready to do stuff there23:03
eeeeok great, switch try_first_pass with use_first_pass23:03
eeeectrl+s and exit23:03
wafflejockuhhh: lscpi -k to see the kernel driver in use23:04
uhhhwafflejock: it's using r816923:05
uhhhsome one told me to update my kernel so I'm on 3.14.1 now, but it didn't fix the issue23:06
wafflejockuhhh: possibly this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-3.0.0/+bug/83939323:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 839393 in r8169 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Network problem with the r8169 driver and RTL8111/8168B" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:06
askoneeee: did it23:07
h9xباخ23:07
h9xhi23:07
h9xguys23:07
askoneeee: should relogin?23:07
h9xi remove the compiz23:07
eeeeaskon: ok, yeah23:07
uhhhwafflejock: any idea how I would update to v3.1?23:07
h9xand still working23:07
h9xhttp://im49.gulfup.com/byiUAi.png23:07
askoneeee:thanks sir, doing that23:07
wafflejockuhhh: think you're above the version they're suggesting there, uname -a23:08
NeO--o___hi23:08
h9xcan anybody help me23:08
sajananyone23:08
sajanto help a noob23:08
usr13!ask23:09
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:09
uhhhwafflejock: I'm on 3.14.1-031401-generic23:09
h9xi remove the Compiz and still working23:09
wafflejockuhhh: yeah so found another forum that ultimately points to this package https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/r8168-dkms23:09
rypervenchesajan: You don't want to install Java from the website. You should install it from your repositories.23:09
wafflejockuhhh: here's the conversation http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8543123:09
sajanyes23:10
sajanbut what is the command i can use in terminal23:10
rypervenchesajan: What version of Ubuntu are you on?23:10
sajanthe latest 14 ls 64 bit23:10
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wafflejockuhhh: maybe try to install that package to override the kernel driver, it says you need to purge it if you want the kernel one to take back over23:10
queensanddronesHi, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a pc I had at home and everything seems to be working fine minus an issue when other users try to log in. It seems to be having a login loop where the password is correct but it goes back to the login screen. I tried various things I found via google from people with similar issues but none have worked. Ideas?23:11
Beldarh9x, More exacting details please, what desktop and why did you remove compiz?23:11
h9xxfce23:11
rypervenchesajan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre23:11
* eeee dejavu ?23:11
Beldar!who | h9x no one word answers please and read the questions23:11
sajanthank you,,.....i have to package so shall i use second command23:11
ubottuh9x no one word answers please and read the questions: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:11
eeeequeensanddrones: cat /etc/pam.d/common-auth | pastebinit23:12
rypervenchesajan: You should use OpenJDK for your java needs.23:12
h9xhey beldar lock this link http://im49.gulfup.com/byiUAi.png23:12
rypervenchesajan: Unless you have a very specific need for Oracle Java, I recommend using OpenJDK. Running the full command I gave you will give you what you hopefully need.23:12
sajan@rypervenche .......thanks23:12
wafflejockyeah open jdk works most of the time23:13
wafflejockin rare cases I've had to use the oracle one but can't recall for what exactly23:13
Beldarh9x, What is the issue?23:13
sajani will try now and let u know how it goes23:13
Beldarsajan, You can tab complete nicks use them please and use whole words this is not twitter.23:14
askoneeee: thanks, looks like working, will be checking these days23:14
eeeeaskon: great23:14
eeee:)23:14
eeeeyou won't believe it, you left, and another guy is asking about the exact same issue23:14
eeeelol23:14
h9xi remove  the compiz and emerald and it still working and i cant control the windows23:14
wafflejockqueensanddrones: you could try open a tty Ctrl+Alt+F1 (use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the login screen) on the tty you can login and can try to see if you get any more info logging in with the other accounts to or else, tail -f /var/log/syslog or maybe tail -f /var/log/auth.log23:15
askoneeee: haha, nice23:15
wafflejockqueensanddrones: or you can install multitail to watch multiple logs at once23:15
uhhhwafflejock: it says in the thread to be careful installing unstable versions23:15
uhhhie. don't use dpkg -i <x>23:15
Beldarh9x, If you tweak the desktop you are somewhat on your own without exact info, xfce does not use either.23:15
uhhhdon't add to /etc/apt/sources.list23:15
wafflejockuhhh: there's one in apt-get23:15
uhhhah k23:16
wafflejockuhhh: I don't have any extra ppas right now23:16
uhhhso just apt-get install r8168?23:16
wafflejockuhhh: with the -dkms at the end23:16
uhhhor I guess search first23:16
uhhhk23:16
wafflejockuhhh: just tab complete it23:16
Beldarh9x, Do a reboot and see if the issue is the same, removing controls like those need a logut or desktop restart at best.23:16
alamihello, i have installed tor browser and i have forget how? what i remember is i have add repository with add-apt-repository, when can i found it? not in /etc/apt/sources.list23:17
wafflejockqueensanddrones: actually multitail is nice if you want to watch multiple log files too23:17
sajanrypervenche, i cannot get the second command work23:17
sajansays could not open lock file23:18
Beldaralami, The tor browser straight from them is the advised use.23:18
uhhhwafflejock: k gonna reboot, brb23:18
rypervenchesajan: Why not? What does it say? (paste it to pastebin.com or something)23:18
wafflejockuhhh: yup good luck23:18
queensanddroneswafflejock: I'm not sure what that does. I'm new to Linux :/23:18
sajanuld not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)23:18
sajanE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?23:18
sajansajan@Sajan-ThinkPad-T61:~$23:18
wafflejockqueensanddrones: the first part or the second part?23:18
Beldaralami, ppa's are not supported here technically23:18
rypervenchesajan: That means that some other command is installing things or you forgot to use "sudo"23:18
eeeequeensanddrones: sudo apt-get install pastebinit23:18
rypervenchesajan: You forgot "sudo" I think.23:18
queensanddroneswafflejock: multitail23:18
anarkhosso, on normal ubuntu, the computer itself wakes up after suspend, but the screen is black. that's better than no reaction at all23:18
queensanddroneseeee: installed23:18
eeeequeensanddrones: cat /etc/pam.d/common-auth | pastebinit23:19
alamiBeldar: yes the command add-apt-repository is support hier?23:19
sajanyeah thanks23:19
sajanworking now23:19
alamiBeldar: yes the command add-apt-repository is support here?23:19
wafflejockqueensanddrones: it's just a terminal program for watching lots of files, if you want to install it, sudo apt-get install multitail, then usage is like, multitail /var/log/syslog /var/log/auth.log23:19
alamiBeldar:so i want to remove it23:19
sajanis there any website where i can study codes for temninal23:19
Beldar!ppa-purge | alami23:19
ubottualami: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html23:19
queensanddroneseeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117956/23:19
wafflejockqueensanddrones: it just opens and watches the end of log files so you can see when new events happen23:19
uhhhwafflejock, so far so good23:19
uhhhnow just gotta wait and see23:20
queensanddroneswafflejock: oh neat, that sounds pretty cool i will probably check it out23:20
alamiBeldar: my Problem is i have forget the ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> 's names23:20
askoneeee: sir it got even worse23:20
eeeelol, what?23:21
eeeethought it worked?23:21
queensanddronesI have a feeling this may have something to do with how i partitioned things at installation23:21
queensanddronesi think i may have accidentally set something to mount point /home and im not sure if that is maybe affection permissions when i try to do things as root?23:21
askonyeah, it shuts down to sleep once, so now i have to log in 4 times and one more to press the power button23:21
eeeehmm23:22
askoneeee: do not recommend to anyone please23:22
rypervenchesajan: Hmmm, there are some. What is your native language?23:22
sajanEnglisj23:22
sajanenglish23:22
eeeeaskon: cat /etc/pam.d/common-auth | pastebinit23:22
askonsec23:22
sajanrypervenche, i have these package install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz23:23
sajanhow can i install23:23
sajanusing terminal23:23
Ornaciahello23:23
alami@sartan: okay good to know it, is that with all extentions or only with .JPG23:24
alamiBeldar: my Problem is i have forget the ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> 's names23:24
askoneeee:http://paste.ubuntu.com/8117983/23:24
OerHeksalami, find it with "   ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  "23:24
eeeeaskon: seriously?23:25
alamiOerHeks: thanks, that's what i was looking for :-)23:25
askoneeee: just did what you said23:25
askoneeee: any issue?23:25
eeeeaskon: ok, type cat /etc/pam.d/common-auth23:26
askonsec23:26
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askoneeee: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8118011/23:28
wafflejocksajan: why are you trying to install the flash player from a tar.gz?23:29
queensanddronesshould i try reinstalling ubuntu23:29
wafflejocksajan: there is a flash player installer package in the repos23:29
sajanwafflejock, its in download folder23:29
sajanyeah i know its all in ubuntu software center23:29
rypervenchesajan: You don't need to install it from that tarball.23:29
wafflejocksajan: if you want to install from that pacakge you can, you're better off getting Google chrome it has a more updated version like FP 1423:30
sajanbut i want to learn to how to install from harddisk23:30
rypervenchesajan: Install it from the package available inside of Ubuntu.23:30
wafflejocksajan: for learning purposes ok23:30
rypervenchesajan: You shouldn't be installing anything from a website, for the most part.23:30
wafflejocksajan: what you have is a "tarball" or a gzipped tape archive file23:30
wafflejock!tar | sajan23:30
ubottusajan: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression23:30
sajanwafflejock, yeah,............can i install it with temnial23:30
wafflejocktar you can use tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz23:31
rypervenchesajan: There is a package already in your repositories.23:31
wafflejocksajan: that will extract it to a folder23:31
wafflejockrypervenche: they're just interested in how to do it23:31
sajanrepositories mean,........23:31
wafflejocksajan: the operating system has locations already specified in your /etc/apt/sources.list file23:32
rypervenchewafflejock: Because he doesn't know any better, from what I gather.23:32
wafflejockrypervenche: I see23:32
sajanwafflejock, rypervenche i m sorry i just installed today so i dont know anything23:32
wafflejocksajan: np rypervenche is just trying to tell you the best thing here23:32
eeeeaskon: gksu gedit /etc/pam.d/common-auth23:32
wafflejocksajan: the repos are curated by people who test the stuff with the OS23:32
rypervenchewafflejock: Then I'll let you take over.23:32
wafflejocksajan: so you don't risk getting software that doesn't work if you just use the repos23:32
wafflejocksajan: if you want to install from the command line from the repos you can too though23:33
sajanoh so it works like that ....thank you23:33
wafflejocksajan: you use sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer23:33
wafflejocksajan: yeah if you  just go out on the internet and download something and install it you want to be sure it came from a safe source23:33
sajanso "sudo apt-get" is main command for terminal?23:34
wafflejocksajan: sudo is for super user or admin privileges23:34
wafflejockapt-get is for getting packages23:34
wafflejock!apt-get23:34
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)23:34
piyush1911Hi, anyone has nay experience in using a kickstart to install a fakeRAID(0) ubuntu 12.04 system, I am having lot of issues in being able to partition and then install the grub23:34
piyush1911Please need some guidance23:34
sajanthank you wafflejock23:34
OerHeks !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree23:35
ubottupepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:35
wafflejocksajan: the "packages" for debian/ubuntu have a .deb extension and are like zip files with some scripts to install stuff23:35
wafflejocksajan: np23:35
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sajanwafflejock, i will first read about basics of ubuntu then i can ask if i am wrong23:35
wafflejocksajan: sure23:35
wafflejocksajan: one of the main things on the command line is using the "man" command23:36
wafflejocksajan: use man man, to see the manual for the manual program, basically though man apt-get, or man whatevercommand will show you the manual with lots of details on usage and what it does23:37
sajanwafflejock, any shortcut to open terminal like in windows for cmd23:37
wafflejocksajan: yeah think it's winkey+T by default23:37
wafflejocksajan: depends on the exact version you have23:37
wafflejocksajan: for me it's Ctrl+Alt+T23:37
wafflejockbut using Ubuntu Gnome edition23:38
sajanyeah for me its ctrl+alt+t23:38
sajanwafflejock, whats difference between yours and official from website?23:38
SCHAAP137i use ctrl Win Q to quit XMonad23:38
SCHAAP137it's like, a logoff23:39
wafflejocksajan: the major difference is just the desktop environment and some of the default apps here's a visual guide to the desktop environments (er some popular ones) http://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/23:40
askoneee: looks good, but not finally, it requires me to press the "power" button one more time but from 5 it went to 2 manipulations, thanks a lot23:41
wafflejocksajan: basically the launcher thing on the left in Unity and the Lense capability you have when you hit the windows key are replaced by various other ways to display your "panel" or "taskbar" or running apps or whatever and ways that the windows and virtual desktops work and lots of other stuff, hard to sum up23:41
sajanwafflejock, yours looks cool23:42
askoneeee: looks good, but not finally, it requires me to press the "power" button one more time but from 5 it went to 2 manipulations, thanks a lot23:42
sajancan u give me iso download link23:42
eeeeaskon: when you sudo, do you have to enter it more than once?23:42
wafflejocksajan: yeah I really am liking Gnome I just switched to it from KDE which was getting kinda clunky for me23:42
wafflejocksajan: http://ubuntugnome.org/23:42
sajanthank you i am trying that now.,.........is it possible to boot it from usb first23:43
wafflejocksajan: honestly I think Unity is okay now too, but it's nice that there are options23:43
askoneeee: no, it just turns off and i need to press the power button again and log in again23:43
wafflejocksajan: yeah it has live ISO capabilties too, you should have a USB creator app if you check in the launcher23:43
sajanoh okk23:43
Beldarwafflejock, The gnome shell is in the ubuntu repos.23:43
piyush1911Hi, anyone has any experience in using a kickstart to install a fakeRAID(0) ubuntu 12.04 system, I am having lot of issues in being able to partition and then install the grub, please I need a little help.23:44
wafflejockBeldar: true but brand new user safe to install it right away without messing up the system23:44
wafflejockBeldar: I went with a clean install cause I was coming from KDE and didn't want the bloat still around23:44
wafflejockBeldar: SSD space is limited23:44
alamiwhen i try ppa-purge i get Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: upubuntu-com-tor64-trusty.list23:44
eeeeaskon: what do you mean? when you do sudo <command> the pc turns off (as in sleeps?)23:44
RonaldReagandoes anyone know how to disable flashing from mirc23:45
sajanwafflejock, how can i create live usb stick23:45
askoneeee: yes23:45
askoneeee: a23:45
eeeeok, well23:45
wafflejocksajan: just hit winkey and start typing USB you should have a USB creator program installed by default I'm pretty sure23:45
jgcampbell300what would i use as a remote desktop connection to maintain several ubuntu boxes ?23:45
RonaldReagani know i can right click it but is there a way toautomate it?23:45
Beldaralami, pastebin your command so we see it.23:45
askoni push it one more time and i comes on23:45
eeeetry this command su -c 'cat /etc/group'23:45
eeeeaskon: what happens23:45
askoneeee: then it comes o  really fast and asks for the pass23:46
askoneeee: then it comes on  really fast and asks for the pass23:46
wafflejocksajan: basically just run that download the .iso file, load the iso in the program with the flash drive in the computer and hit the button usually not too much to it23:46
eeeenevermind i forgot no root on ubuntu23:46
malumacv23:46
malumahola23:46
eeeeaskon: nevermind23:47
OerHeksRonaldReagan, does Mirc not provide you a manual? poor windows software.23:47
jgcampbell300how do you connect one xubuntu desktop to another23:47
alamisudo ppa-purge ppa:upubuntu-com-tor64-trusty.list/23:47
wafflejockjgcampbell300: typically you want to use ssh to make things secure23:47
awesomess3sajan, you can use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ it installs an ISO onto a USB flash-drive/thumb-drive/usb-stick23:47
wafflejockjgcampbell300: graphically you can use vnc-server and vnc-client23:48
askoneeee: thanks a lot, i will fly to sweden tomorrow and i will write it from there if any issues, thanks, much easier now23:48
wafflejockawesomess3: isn't there one in the default version of ubuntu?23:48
OerHeksalami just ppa:upubuntu-com/tor6423:48
wafflejockawesomess3: I've got one in my gnome install of ubuntu and didn't install it23:48
eeeeaskon: sorry, it didnt work out, i'll google some more and who knows23:48
jgcampbell300wafflejock, would vnc-server be the best option ?23:48
Beldaralami, this look familiar  https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/tor-browser23:48
wafflejockjgcampbell300: if you're looking for something just like RDP and want the GUI when you login then I think it is23:49
wafflejockjgcampbell300: you can use ssh to setup a tunnel for the VNC connection (it's easier than it sounds)23:49
askoneeee: thanks, google didn't help me on this issue anyway23:49
alamiOerHeks: you know my Problem? i can't update when using this repo :-(23:49
jgcampbell300wafflejock, ok thanks ... i will read on it now23:49
OerHeksalami, no, i never used such ppa' s23:50
awesomess3wafflejock, sajan I can't find any USB-creator software on my Xubuntu 14.04, but it doesn't mean it's not there, *shrugs* `apropos usb` yields nothing either.23:50
Beldaralami, Last update to that ppa was in 4-2223:50
anarkhosis f6 the key to press if i want boot options when running the live-usb of ubuntu?23:50
wafflejockjgcampbell300: yeah just get the ssh connection part sorted out, ideally just using a private/public key pair instead of password based connection23:51
eeeeaskon: still there?23:51
wafflejockjgcampbell300: then you just add a flag to the ssh connection -L with the port you want to forward, then from the vnc viewer you tell it to connect to localhost and the tunneled ports will connect you to the remote machine instead23:51
askoneeee: here23:51
jgcampbell300wafflejock, sounds good23:52
Beldaralami, good info here, on that ppa, and on using the tor browser straight from them. http://askubuntu.com/questions/382394/how-do-i-install-the-tor-browser-bundle-in-ubuntu23:52
sajanwafflejock, i m sorry my laptop hanged23:52
aaaaHi. 12.04 LTS.  I added another 500Gb(ext4) and put it in fstab.. boots fine... I just forget what I need to do so I can make that volume writable from my account.. its sudo chown or chmod??? Thanks.23:53
wafflejockjgcampbell300: yeah let me know if you get stuck got the tunneling line in my scripts for connecting with the tunneling for VNC23:53
sajanwafflejock, can you tell me why my laptop hangs when i try search function in the launher23:53
alamiBeldar: okay so the repository is removed but i still have it's entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/23:53
jgcampbell300wafflejock, kk23:53
wafflejocksajan: not sure might be related to the graphics drivers, unity is kind of graphically intense with the half transparent blur stuff going on23:54
askoneeee: anything?23:54
wafflejocksajan: could be something at a hardware level that has problems too though, hard to diagnose things without digging into it some23:54
Beldaralami, OPen it is it commeneted out with a "#"23:54
sajanwafflejock, it never happend to windows 723:54
alamiBeldar:http://askubuntu.com/questions/382394/how-do-i-install-the-tor-browser-bundle-in-ubuntu the solution here will update tor-browser?23:55
sajanwafflejock, i dont find usb disk creator in my launcher23:55
eeeeaskon: try sudo su23:55
Beldaralami, updates from where you are, are not possible purge the one you have and install from tor.23:55
eeeeaskon: then try login <your username>23:56
wafflejocksajan: yeah this is a typical issue when someone moves from windows to linux regarding trying to compare them... since the whole software stack is different you really can't compare them directly, and most likely you just need to add some appropriate graphics drivers to fix the issue, that said it does indicate the hardware is probably okay23:56
eeeeaskon: see if it asks you for the password more than once, or if it sleeps23:56
alamiBeldar: thats the best way :-) thanks a lot23:56
wafflejocksajan: regarding the usb creator you can install the unetbootin package suggested earlier if you don't have one23:56
askoneeee: pls give me the command, on what to sudo su?23:56
wafflejocksajan: strange thought that was built in23:57
Beldaralami, Tor is a funky thing, I assume they have updates themselves, not sure really.23:57
alamithe problem when i use that one from tor-project, i can't lock it to unity23:57
wafflejocksajan: sudo apt-get install unetbootin23:57
sajanwafflejock, how can i fix graphics driver23:57
sajanany way23:57
eeeeaskon: ok, "sudo su" , then "login <your username>"23:57
wafflejocksajan: well if you're going to change systems don't worry about it immediately23:57
Beldaralami, I would not give it root anyway, it will without it.23:57
wafflejocksajan: better to wait for the dust to settle and when you decide what to go with then tune it up23:57
askoneeee: it goes well in terminal23:58
eeeewhen you typed login <your username>23:58
eeeeit asked you for your username's password?23:58
Beldaralami, It runs without root, that is really best in my opinion.23:58
askoneeee: yes23:58
wafflejocksajan: there is an additional drivers dialog in Unity that lets you add drivers or you can install them from the repo or you can get them from the manufacturer but don't worry about it ATM if you want to try other systems potentially23:58
eeeeaskon: you typed it only once? or ..? did it sleep ?23:58
sajanwafflejock, yeah i  m trying gnome for now23:59
uhhhI went with the default unity23:59
alamiBeldar: okay thanks a lot , i will try to lock it to the side bar :-)23:59
uhhhbut I miss the desktop swapping23:59
sajanwafflejock, as i prefer graphical more23:59
askoneeee: opened the terminal, typed: sudo su, and asked for the pass only23:59
wafflejockuhhh: think you still have virtual desktops no?23:59
uhhhwafflejock: maybe, I've never used ubuntu before, still tinkering with it23:59

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