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brainwashI open the terminal and start to type before the actual prompt string is printed. This breaks the string somewhat by adding my typed chars in front of it.08:16
brainwashIs this an actual bug or "you are doing it wrong"?08:16
ochosielfy: hm, does it still make sense to discuss the QA incentive programme idea at the meeting then? (i guess if you prep a document on that, we could still discuss it)08:19
knomeqa incentive?08:19
knomebounties for testing? :)08:19
ochosipretty much, yeah08:20
knomeyeah, i wouldn't mind that08:20
ochosiwe established that testing is a bit boring, so motivating ppl isn't easy08:20
ochosisince the xfce bug bounty programme seems to be doing fine without the (little) money we have, i wouldn't mind spending it on QA08:21
ochosie.g. xubuntu t-shirt for most active tester in the cycle08:21
knomemmh08:21
ochosior i dunno, that's just a random thought08:21
knomethat's not a bad idea08:21
knomei mean, it's relatively cheap for us and gets us a long way if at least 2 people start "competing"08:22
ochosiwould've preferred if elfy would've been there for the meeting to discuss it, but we can probably discuss it either way08:22
ochosiwhen i suggested the idea, he seemed to like it08:22
ochosiand we can just start by collecting ideas08:22
knomemhm08:22
* elfy still does :p08:23
ochosibtw, i'm away for the rest of today and tomorrow08:24
elfyI'd propose stickers once a month or something, then t-shirt at cycle end for most prolific during the whole cycle08:24
elfysomething like that 08:24
ochosiyeah, i think we should make a list of these proposals/ideas incl. what they cost08:24
elfyochosi: unfortunately unless a meeting during the day coincides with me not working I'll never be about08:24
ochosiand then just decide on what makes most sense08:24
elfyjust so you know - Friday's I'm usually not working if you do want me there 08:25
ochosielfy: hm right, seems hard to find a time that works for everyone08:25
ochosiyeah, i was considering a meeting later in the week, but then i felt maybe before b1 is a good idea08:25
knomestickers isn't bad either08:25
knomeochosi, thought before b1 is just useful for "developers", and/or other people who need to land $x08:26
knomeand maybe QA people.. :)08:26
ochosiright, which is why i set the time so it would work for bluesabre ;)08:26
elfyQA people don't really need a meeting *just* before :p08:27
elfyand if I'm the only one that does anything with b1 there won't be a b final ;)08:27
knomeelfy, right, except if you are waiting for a fix to land ;)08:28
ochosiwell, in terms of gathering feedback from QA it's still useful i think08:28
ochosialso to establish the road to b208:28
elfy@19/8 we had 52/580 64bit image tests done, 32bit is worse and package testing has in general been me testing for testcase and jjfrv8 doing one afterwards08:29
meetingologyelfy: Error: "19/8" is not a valid command.08:29
elfyshutup meetingology 08:30
knomehaha08:30
ochosi:)08:30
ochosiknome: btw, unless you wanna work on the accessibility version of greybird, i'll postpone this once again08:35
ochosii know i won't have time until UIF08:35
knomeyeah, please do08:35
knomeif i surprisingly get kicked out of my projects (or everything gets stalled) and i have a lot of motivation, it might happen... but yeah08:35
ochosialso, please don't let the UIF approach too much for starting to work on the new wallpaper ;)08:36
knomeno no08:36
knomenot at all08:36
knome:P08:36
knomethis is the cycle when i start working on the wallpaper WELL BEFORE THE UIF08:36
knomelike, in june...08:36
knomewell tbe, i have something from july08:36
knomebut it's still far from fit to release :)08:37
ochosithen keep the fricking blueprint updated!08:37
knomewell08:37
ochosiand set it to inprogress08:37
knomeit's actually more like TODO than INPROGRESS08:37
ochosialso, for some reason there's no trello card for that08:37
knomeyou should see the progress08:37
knome(not)08:37
knomelet me add that now then08:38
ochosialready done08:38
knomeboo08:38
knomei just LOGGED IN to trello08:38
ochosijust thought you deserved a little shout-out for being so whiney about this last time ;)08:38
knomeyes, that's fair08:38
elfylol08:38
ochosi(but yeah, it was good that you were)08:38
knomei really wish i had more time...08:39
knomelike 24 more hours per day08:39
ochosi(at least i have it more on my radar again)08:39
knomeugh.. i need coffee.08:40
elfyknome: you can set a due date for the wallpaper on trello - then it'll show up on the team calendar so we can see how you're doing :)08:40
ochosimm, that'd be nice08:40
elfyoh - we did have trello stuff on there at some point - seems to be missing now08:40
elfybut setting a date does allow us to see it on the trello calendar08:41
ochosii dunno, iirc Unit193 handled that08:41
ochosii mean the trello -> team calendar integration08:41
elfyyea - certainly wasn't elfy :p08:41
knomeobviously the due date should be UIF..08:45
ochosinah, at least two days before08:45
knomeaha08:45
ochosigive bluesabre some time to upload08:45
knomeseptember 8 then08:46
ochosi(just because we have an awesome uploader now doesn't mean we should drive him towards a heart-attack)08:46
knomei hate to say this, but that's like not going to happen08:46
* knome hides under the table08:46
ochosithe heart-attack? or sept 8?08:46
knomei need to get back to work :|08:46
knomesept 8..08:46
ochosiseriously?08:47
knomewell, i'm swamped with work08:47
ochosii understand, but to the worst do an iteration of the 14.04 wall08:47
ochosijust small changes08:47
knomeyeah, i know08:47
ochosippl loved that wall08:47
ochosiand ubuntu does it too (just changing tiny aspects)08:47
knomeket's see what happens08:47
ochosiso it'd make sense08:47
knomehah.08:47
knomeanyway, i'm off to do some work08:48
ochosik, ttyl08:48
knomebe back in some time08:48
ochosigotta focus on work too08:48
ochosiwill be back on sunday08:48
knomeaha08:48
elfycya chaps 08:48
knomethen hf until that08:48
ochosiyou too08:48
ochosicya elfy (and all others)08:48
elfyhave fun 08:49
bluesabrehey guys10:07
bluesabreknome: yeah, in the spirit of ubuntu, just change the contrast in one corner and call it done ;)10:08
bluesabrexubutrello: card 6710:40
xubutrelloThere's no list called <card 67> on the board, bluesabre. Sorry.10:40
bluesabrexubutrello: help10:40
brainwashknome: can you please remove gnome-terminal and lxterminal from the affects list? The affected terminal emulators all depend on libvte, so I've reassigned the bug10:40
brainwashbug 123759410:41
ubottubug 1237594 in vte (Ubuntu) "The U+0001 control character is output in terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123759410:41
bluesabrexubutrello: card 67 link10:41
xubutrellohttps://trello.com/c/I9GzeyJ7/67-upower-0-99-transition-staging-at-https-launchpad-net-noskcaj-archive-upower-packages10:41
bluesabre^ Noskcaj, with FF yesterday, is this postponed for after 14.10?10:41
brainwashthought that the upower transition was already done, but meh10:43
brainwashxorg 1.16 will land after FF10:44
slickymasterWorkI can do that for you if you want brainwash 10:45
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: re: bug 1237594 ^^10:46
ubottubug 1237594 in vte (Ubuntu) "The U+0001 control character is output in terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123759410:46
bluesabreI mean, the code is there for most of xfce, but upower 0.99 is not10:46
brainwashslickymasterWork: would be awesome10:46
bluesabrein utopic10:46
knomebluesabre, you should really get that bug team membership10:47
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: done10:47
slickymasterWorkhey knome bluesabre 10:47
knomehey10:47
bluesabreknome, I know, on my todo list10:47
brainwashslickymasterWork: thank you :)10:47
slickymasterWorknot only that knome, he should also get bugcontrol membership10:48
knomeyep.10:52
slickymasterWorkknome: do you have any idea on when will the new menulibre string get synchronized?10:52
slickymasterWorks/string/strings10:52
knomeonce there is a new release10:53
knomeor: ask bluesabre 10:53
slickymasterWorkbluesabre: ^^10:53
bluesabresuppose I could push a strings update package to utopic this weekend10:57
bluesabregoing to get ready for work now... leave me a ping if you guys need anything done tonight10:59
knomebluesabre, new wallpaper pls?:P10:59
brainwashslickymasterWork: can you also please change the importance of this report to wishlist (both packages)? bug 130105611:34
ubottubug 1301056 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Session name has "Session"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130105611:34
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: done, on both packages11:34
brainwashslickymasterWork: thanks :)11:35
slickymasterWorknp brainwash11:35
slickymasterWorkbut I still think that you should apply for bug team membership11:35
brainwashbtw is apport still disabled in 14.10?11:35
brainwashusually we get some crash reports during the time before final release11:36
brainwashtimeout11:39
slickymasterWorkbrainwash: re:apport I believe so11:39
brainwashwaiting for some crash reports to flood in :)11:40
slickymasterWorkbmurray will have his hands full ;)11:41
slickymasterWorks/bmurray/bdmurray11:41
slickymasterWorklunch time. bbl ->11:56
=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
brainwashslickymaster: can you maybe point this bug reporter in the right direction? would be great if we could show him how to fix this easily13:55
brainwashbug 135501813:56
ubottubug 1355018 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "[typo, german translation] "Achtung, Sie arbeiten mit Administartorrechten und können Ihr System beschädigen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135501813:56
brainwashsadly I'm not familiar with the translation process :/13:57
knomei don't think there is an "easy" way, but all xfce translations are practically managed in transifex14:01
knomegetting the translation that is in transifex to land in xubuntu will take some time whatsoever (need releases)14:02
brainwashright, I think that everyone can get involved and contribute translations, especially if the user is known to be regular bug reporter :)14:06
brainwashI thought that transifex is an "easy" way to do it14:07
knomethey need to be approved to the german xfce translations team in transifex14:07
knomeit is relatively easy, but it's not like editing a wiki.14:07
knomeyou need to log in, and need to be approved14:07
brainwashI see, this makes sense14:08
knomebut after that, sure, it's easy14:08
brainwashknome: what would be the appropriate importance for bug 1291606 ?14:53
ubottubug 1291606 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "Mousepad isn't localized in Dutch, although fully translated into Dutch on Launchpad" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129160614:53
brainwashis "high" really the right one?14:54
elfyalberto again :)14:55
slickymasterWorklol14:55
slickymasterWorkjust wait for the emoticons in LP elfy :P14:56
elfylol14:56
brainwashso, how important are translations?14:57
elfynot at all to me :p14:57
brainwashbut for the xubuntu project14:57
slickymasterWorkthey are important brainwash, at least for the apps we ship by default14:58
brainwashif translations are missing, well, then you have to wait until they are available, right?14:58
slickymasterWorkyeaps14:58
elfyA bug that has a moderate impact on a core application. 14:58
elfymeium14:58
elfymedium even14:58
slickymasterWorkthe reporter claims that the translation is already made though14:58
brainwashyes, I vote for 'medium' too14:58
slickymasterWorkI agree with elfy's assessment 14:59
brainwashplease change it :)14:59
elfyI'm just reading the bug importance wiki14:59
slickymasterWorkokie dokie14:59
brainwashcopy pasta :>14:59
elfyof course14:59
slickymasterWorkdone15:00
elfybetter give the images a whirl - not done that for a day or so15:01
* slickymasterWork likes elfy's pro-activity 15:02
brainwashslickymasterWork: thanks15:02
slickymasterWorknp brainwash 15:02
knomebrainwash, at most medium imo.15:23
brainwashNoskcaj: any idea what could be broken here? bug 131480216:34
ubottubug 1314802 in exo (Ubuntu) "Translations incomplete in amd64 14.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131480216:34
brainwashthe bug reporter claims that the amd64 package is missing translations16:35
knomeexplain me how "notebook tabs" are different from "tabs" ?16:41
knomeor, how should that be translated?16:41
brainwashknome: me?16:56
knomebrainwash, if you feel qualified to answer, yes...17:23
ali1234seems like notebook tabs means vertical tabs17:31
elfyUnit193: no kernel modules with the mini.iso again ... 17:41
Unit193How on earth...17:58
elfyno idea - and it's been too long a day to worry much :p18:05
Unit193Just did another upgrade too.18:07
knomeelfy, mmh18:10
Unit193Hah, now it wants to ask for a password every time I switch to workspace one. :P18:19
Noskcajbluesabre, looking now20:14
elfyUnit193: anyway, re -core I've more or less got the testcase sorted, just need to be sure the order, wording works so I can get it on the tracker system, balloons will deal with getting it usable for us 20:24
Noskcajbluesabre, I can confirm. This is "Fixed" in the utopic version (must have been from a rebuild), but then the amd64 version has a few that i386 doesn't20:26
Unit193Noskcaj: Do you mean brainwash?20:37
Noskcajyes. :(20:37
Noskcajtab completion is hard20:37
brainwashb<tab> :D20:40
Unit193I use it too, yes. >_>20:41
brainwashNoskcaj: thanks for commenting on the report :)20:42
NoskcajI'm running a rebuild in my ppa now20:42
NoskcajA rebuild has removed all the issues.21:04
NoskcajWhere is the bug for the website being translatable? It relates to the exo bug21:32
Unit193...How does that even relate?21:32
Unit193Project xubuntu-website, iirc.21:33
Unit193(LP: #797600 if you didn't see.)21:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 797600 in Xubuntu Website "Enable translations for the Xubuntu website" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79760021:33
NoskcajUnit193, The bug i'm looking at is a dupe of some non-english xubuntu issues, one of the ones listed is that a translated link goes to and english only website21:35
Unit193Aha, I see!  A reference to it rather than direct link. gotcha.  That's not likely to get "fixed" soon anyway.21:36
Noskcajbug 1308533 is now the main bug. I'll look into an SRU when i get back from soccer. Hopefully someone, somewhere, is already working on thunderbird21:39
ubottubug 1308533 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Non-english live-cd: some programs are in English although their name is in Non-english, and vice-versa" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130853321:39
brainwashNoskcaj: oh... did you forget about bug 733563 ? :)21:44
ubottubug 733563 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) "Can't change font for keyboard layout indicator" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73356321:44
brainwashthe patch wasn't included due to FF (trusty)21:47
Noskcajbrainwash, yes. And now it's the FF again.21:48
Unit193Stupid FF... :D21:48
brainwashyeah :/21:49
brainwashbad luck21:49
NoskcajIs it worth an FFe? if so, i can get it made later today21:49
brainwashdon't think so21:49
NoskcajHopefully i'll remember it for 15.04 then21:50
brainwash:)21:50
Unit193It'll be nice when 15.04 opens, yeah.22:28
Unit193bluesabre: Once we hear back from Lubuntu, we looking to fix xfpm/lxpanel?23:51
bluesabreyeah, I think that'd be best for them23:52
bluesabre:)23:52
Unit193we=you, of course! :---D23:53
bluesabreoh wait, now its just me?23:54
bluesabretab complete23:54
bluesabrebrainwash: do it23:55
bluesabre;)23:55
bluesabreI cheated, tab-complete filled me in23:55
bluesabre:(23:55
Unit193Heh, well I have the fixes, though I think rather than splitting a -dev out we'll just jam it in lxpanel like Debian does.  Next release will have -dev, better not to change stuff.23:55
Unit193The xfpm dep could even be lxpanel-dev | lxpanel to fix it now and later (it'll fall back to lxpanel since it can't get -dev.)23:56
bluesabreneat23:56

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