| brainwash | I open the terminal and start to type before the actual prompt string is printed. This breaks the string somewhat by adding my typed chars in front of it. | 08:16 |
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| brainwash | Is this an actual bug or "you are doing it wrong"? | 08:16 |
| ochosi | elfy: hm, does it still make sense to discuss the QA incentive programme idea at the meeting then? (i guess if you prep a document on that, we could still discuss it) | 08:19 |
| knome | qa incentive? | 08:19 |
| knome | bounties for testing? :) | 08:19 |
| ochosi | pretty much, yeah | 08:20 |
| knome | yeah, i wouldn't mind that | 08:20 |
| ochosi | we established that testing is a bit boring, so motivating ppl isn't easy | 08:20 |
| ochosi | since the xfce bug bounty programme seems to be doing fine without the (little) money we have, i wouldn't mind spending it on QA | 08:21 |
| ochosi | e.g. xubuntu t-shirt for most active tester in the cycle | 08:21 |
| knome | mmh | 08:21 |
| ochosi | or i dunno, that's just a random thought | 08:21 |
| knome | that's not a bad idea | 08:21 |
| knome | i mean, it's relatively cheap for us and gets us a long way if at least 2 people start "competing" | 08:22 |
| ochosi | would've preferred if elfy would've been there for the meeting to discuss it, but we can probably discuss it either way | 08:22 |
| ochosi | when i suggested the idea, he seemed to like it | 08:22 |
| ochosi | and we can just start by collecting ideas | 08:22 |
| knome | mhm | 08:22 |
| * elfy still does :p | 08:23 | |
| ochosi | btw, i'm away for the rest of today and tomorrow | 08:24 |
| elfy | I'd propose stickers once a month or something, then t-shirt at cycle end for most prolific during the whole cycle | 08:24 |
| elfy | something like that | 08:24 |
| ochosi | yeah, i think we should make a list of these proposals/ideas incl. what they cost | 08:24 |
| elfy | ochosi: unfortunately unless a meeting during the day coincides with me not working I'll never be about | 08:24 |
| ochosi | and then just decide on what makes most sense | 08:24 |
| elfy | just so you know - Friday's I'm usually not working if you do want me there | 08:25 |
| ochosi | elfy: hm right, seems hard to find a time that works for everyone | 08:25 |
| ochosi | yeah, i was considering a meeting later in the week, but then i felt maybe before b1 is a good idea | 08:25 |
| knome | stickers isn't bad either | 08:25 |
| knome | ochosi, thought before b1 is just useful for "developers", and/or other people who need to land $x | 08:26 |
| knome | and maybe QA people.. :) | 08:26 |
| ochosi | right, which is why i set the time so it would work for bluesabre ;) | 08:26 |
| elfy | QA people don't really need a meeting *just* before :p | 08:27 |
| elfy | and if I'm the only one that does anything with b1 there won't be a b final ;) | 08:27 |
| knome | elfy, right, except if you are waiting for a fix to land ;) | 08:28 |
| ochosi | well, in terms of gathering feedback from QA it's still useful i think | 08:28 |
| ochosi | also to establish the road to b2 | 08:28 |
| elfy | @19/8 we had 52/580 64bit image tests done, 32bit is worse and package testing has in general been me testing for testcase and jjfrv8 doing one afterwards | 08:29 |
| meetingology | elfy: Error: "19/8" is not a valid command. | 08:29 |
| elfy | shutup meetingology | 08:30 |
| knome | haha | 08:30 |
| ochosi | :) | 08:30 |
| ochosi | knome: btw, unless you wanna work on the accessibility version of greybird, i'll postpone this once again | 08:35 |
| ochosi | i know i won't have time until UIF | 08:35 |
| knome | yeah, please do | 08:35 |
| knome | if i surprisingly get kicked out of my projects (or everything gets stalled) and i have a lot of motivation, it might happen... but yeah | 08:35 |
| ochosi | also, please don't let the UIF approach too much for starting to work on the new wallpaper ;) | 08:36 |
| knome | no no | 08:36 |
| knome | not at all | 08:36 |
| knome | :P | 08:36 |
| knome | this is the cycle when i start working on the wallpaper WELL BEFORE THE UIF | 08:36 |
| knome | like, in june... | 08:36 |
| knome | well tbe, i have something from july | 08:36 |
| knome | but it's still far from fit to release :) | 08:37 |
| ochosi | then keep the fricking blueprint updated! | 08:37 |
| knome | well | 08:37 |
| ochosi | and set it to inprogress | 08:37 |
| knome | it's actually more like TODO than INPROGRESS | 08:37 |
| ochosi | also, for some reason there's no trello card for that | 08:37 |
| knome | you should see the progress | 08:37 |
| knome | (not) | 08:37 |
| knome | let me add that now then | 08:38 |
| ochosi | already done | 08:38 |
| knome | boo | 08:38 |
| knome | i just LOGGED IN to trello | 08:38 |
| ochosi | just thought you deserved a little shout-out for being so whiney about this last time ;) | 08:38 |
| knome | yes, that's fair | 08:38 |
| elfy | lol | 08:38 |
| ochosi | (but yeah, it was good that you were) | 08:38 |
| knome | i really wish i had more time... | 08:39 |
| knome | like 24 more hours per day | 08:39 |
| ochosi | (at least i have it more on my radar again) | 08:39 |
| knome | ugh.. i need coffee. | 08:40 |
| elfy | knome: you can set a due date for the wallpaper on trello - then it'll show up on the team calendar so we can see how you're doing :) | 08:40 |
| ochosi | mm, that'd be nice | 08:40 |
| elfy | oh - we did have trello stuff on there at some point - seems to be missing now | 08:40 |
| elfy | but setting a date does allow us to see it on the trello calendar | 08:41 |
| ochosi | i dunno, iirc Unit193 handled that | 08:41 |
| ochosi | i mean the trello -> team calendar integration | 08:41 |
| elfy | yea - certainly wasn't elfy :p | 08:41 |
| knome | obviously the due date should be UIF.. | 08:45 |
| ochosi | nah, at least two days before | 08:45 |
| knome | aha | 08:45 |
| ochosi | give bluesabre some time to upload | 08:45 |
| knome | september 8 then | 08:46 |
| ochosi | (just because we have an awesome uploader now doesn't mean we should drive him towards a heart-attack) | 08:46 |
| knome | i hate to say this, but that's like not going to happen | 08:46 |
| * knome hides under the table | 08:46 | |
| ochosi | the heart-attack? or sept 8? | 08:46 |
| knome | i need to get back to work :| | 08:46 |
| knome | sept 8.. | 08:46 |
| ochosi | seriously? | 08:47 |
| knome | well, i'm swamped with work | 08:47 |
| ochosi | i understand, but to the worst do an iteration of the 14.04 wall | 08:47 |
| ochosi | just small changes | 08:47 |
| knome | yeah, i know | 08:47 |
| ochosi | ppl loved that wall | 08:47 |
| ochosi | and ubuntu does it too (just changing tiny aspects) | 08:47 |
| knome | ket's see what happens | 08:47 |
| ochosi | so it'd make sense | 08:47 |
| knome | hah. | 08:47 |
| knome | anyway, i'm off to do some work | 08:48 |
| ochosi | k, ttyl | 08:48 |
| knome | be back in some time | 08:48 |
| ochosi | gotta focus on work too | 08:48 |
| ochosi | will be back on sunday | 08:48 |
| knome | aha | 08:48 |
| elfy | cya chaps | 08:48 |
| knome | then hf until that | 08:48 |
| ochosi | you too | 08:48 |
| ochosi | cya elfy (and all others) | 08:48 |
| elfy | have fun | 08:49 |
| bluesabre | hey guys | 10:07 |
| bluesabre | knome: yeah, in the spirit of ubuntu, just change the contrast in one corner and call it done ;) | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | xubutrello: card 67 | 10:40 |
| xubutrello | There's no list called <card 67> on the board, bluesabre. Sorry. | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | xubutrello: help | 10:40 |
| brainwash | knome: can you please remove gnome-terminal and lxterminal from the affects list? The affected terminal emulators all depend on libvte, so I've reassigned the bug | 10:40 |
| brainwash | bug 1237594 | 10:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1237594 in vte (Ubuntu) "The U+0001 control character is output in terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237594 | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | xubutrello: card 67 link | 10:41 |
| xubutrello | https://trello.com/c/I9GzeyJ7/67-upower-0-99-transition-staging-at-https-launchpad-net-noskcaj-archive-upower-packages | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | ^ Noskcaj, with FF yesterday, is this postponed for after 14.10? | 10:41 |
| brainwash | thought that the upower transition was already done, but meh | 10:43 |
| brainwash | xorg 1.16 will land after FF | 10:44 |
| slickymasterWork | I can do that for you if you want brainwash | 10:45 |
| slickymasterWork | brainwash: re: bug 1237594 ^^ | 10:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1237594 in vte (Ubuntu) "The U+0001 control character is output in terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237594 | 10:46 |
| bluesabre | I mean, the code is there for most of xfce, but upower 0.99 is not | 10:46 |
| brainwash | slickymasterWork: would be awesome | 10:46 |
| bluesabre | in utopic | 10:46 |
| knome | bluesabre, you should really get that bug team membership | 10:47 |
| slickymasterWork | brainwash: done | 10:47 |
| slickymasterWork | hey knome bluesabre | 10:47 |
| knome | hey | 10:47 |
| bluesabre | knome, I know, on my todo list | 10:47 |
| brainwash | slickymasterWork: thank you :) | 10:47 |
| slickymasterWork | not only that knome, he should also get bugcontrol membership | 10:48 |
| knome | yep. | 10:52 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: do you have any idea on when will the new menulibre string get synchronized? | 10:52 |
| slickymasterWork | s/string/strings | 10:52 |
| knome | once there is a new release | 10:53 |
| knome | or: ask bluesabre | 10:53 |
| slickymasterWork | bluesabre: ^^ | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | suppose I could push a strings update package to utopic this weekend | 10:57 |
| bluesabre | going to get ready for work now... leave me a ping if you guys need anything done tonight | 10:59 |
| knome | bluesabre, new wallpaper pls?:P | 10:59 |
| brainwash | slickymasterWork: can you also please change the importance of this report to wishlist (both packages)? bug 1301056 | 11:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1301056 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Session name has "Session"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301056 | 11:34 |
| slickymasterWork | brainwash: done, on both packages | 11:34 |
| brainwash | slickymasterWork: thanks :) | 11:35 |
| slickymasterWork | np brainwash | 11:35 |
| slickymasterWork | but I still think that you should apply for bug team membership | 11:35 |
| brainwash | btw is apport still disabled in 14.10? | 11:35 |
| brainwash | usually we get some crash reports during the time before final release | 11:36 |
| brainwash | timeout | 11:39 |
| slickymasterWork | brainwash: re:apport I believe so | 11:39 |
| brainwash | waiting for some crash reports to flood in :) | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | bmurray will have his hands full ;) | 11:41 |
| slickymasterWork | s/bmurray/bdmurray | 11:41 |
| slickymasterWork | lunch time. bbl -> | 11:56 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| brainwash | slickymaster: can you maybe point this bug reporter in the right direction? would be great if we could show him how to fix this easily | 13:55 |
| brainwash | bug 1355018 | 13:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1355018 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "[typo, german translation] "Achtung, Sie arbeiten mit Administartorrechten und können Ihr System beschädigen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1355018 | 13:56 |
| brainwash | sadly I'm not familiar with the translation process :/ | 13:57 |
| knome | i don't think there is an "easy" way, but all xfce translations are practically managed in transifex | 14:01 |
| knome | getting the translation that is in transifex to land in xubuntu will take some time whatsoever (need releases) | 14:02 |
| brainwash | right, I think that everyone can get involved and contribute translations, especially if the user is known to be regular bug reporter :) | 14:06 |
| brainwash | I thought that transifex is an "easy" way to do it | 14:07 |
| knome | they need to be approved to the german xfce translations team in transifex | 14:07 |
| knome | it is relatively easy, but it's not like editing a wiki. | 14:07 |
| knome | you need to log in, and need to be approved | 14:07 |
| brainwash | I see, this makes sense | 14:08 |
| knome | but after that, sure, it's easy | 14:08 |
| brainwash | knome: what would be the appropriate importance for bug 1291606 ? | 14:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1291606 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "Mousepad isn't localized in Dutch, although fully translated into Dutch on Launchpad" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291606 | 14:53 |
| brainwash | is "high" really the right one? | 14:54 |
| elfy | alberto again :) | 14:55 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 14:55 |
| slickymasterWork | just wait for the emoticons in LP elfy :P | 14:56 |
| elfy | lol | 14:56 |
| brainwash | so, how important are translations? | 14:57 |
| elfy | not at all to me :p | 14:57 |
| brainwash | but for the xubuntu project | 14:57 |
| slickymasterWork | they are important brainwash, at least for the apps we ship by default | 14:58 |
| brainwash | if translations are missing, well, then you have to wait until they are available, right? | 14:58 |
| slickymasterWork | yeaps | 14:58 |
| elfy | A bug that has a moderate impact on a core application. | 14:58 |
| elfy | meium | 14:58 |
| elfy | medium even | 14:58 |
| slickymasterWork | the reporter claims that the translation is already made though | 14:58 |
| brainwash | yes, I vote for 'medium' too | 14:58 |
| slickymasterWork | I agree with elfy's assessment | 14:59 |
| brainwash | please change it :) | 14:59 |
| elfy | I'm just reading the bug importance wiki | 14:59 |
| slickymasterWork | okie dokie | 14:59 |
| brainwash | copy pasta :> | 14:59 |
| elfy | of course | 14:59 |
| slickymasterWork | done | 15:00 |
| elfy | better give the images a whirl - not done that for a day or so | 15:01 |
| * slickymasterWork likes elfy's pro-activity | 15:02 | |
| brainwash | slickymasterWork: thanks | 15:02 |
| slickymasterWork | np brainwash | 15:02 |
| knome | brainwash, at most medium imo. | 15:23 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: any idea what could be broken here? bug 1314802 | 16:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1314802 in exo (Ubuntu) "Translations incomplete in amd64 14.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314802 | 16:34 |
| brainwash | the bug reporter claims that the amd64 package is missing translations | 16:35 |
| knome | explain me how "notebook tabs" are different from "tabs" ? | 16:41 |
| knome | or, how should that be translated? | 16:41 |
| brainwash | knome: me? | 16:56 |
| knome | brainwash, if you feel qualified to answer, yes... | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | seems like notebook tabs means vertical tabs | 17:31 |
| elfy | Unit193: no kernel modules with the mini.iso again ... | 17:41 |
| Unit193 | How on earth... | 17:58 |
| elfy | no idea - and it's been too long a day to worry much :p | 18:05 |
| Unit193 | Just did another upgrade too. | 18:07 |
| knome | elfy, mmh | 18:10 |
| Unit193 | Hah, now it wants to ask for a password every time I switch to workspace one. :P | 18:19 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, looking now | 20:14 |
| elfy | Unit193: anyway, re -core I've more or less got the testcase sorted, just need to be sure the order, wording works so I can get it on the tracker system, balloons will deal with getting it usable for us | 20:24 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, I can confirm. This is "Fixed" in the utopic version (must have been from a rebuild), but then the amd64 version has a few that i386 doesn't | 20:26 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: Do you mean brainwash? | 20:37 |
| Noskcaj | yes. :( | 20:37 |
| Noskcaj | tab completion is hard | 20:37 |
| brainwash | b<tab> :D | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | I use it too, yes. >_> | 20:41 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: thanks for commenting on the report :) | 20:42 |
| Noskcaj | I'm running a rebuild in my ppa now | 20:42 |
| Noskcaj | A rebuild has removed all the issues. | 21:04 |
| Noskcaj | Where is the bug for the website being translatable? It relates to the exo bug | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | ...How does that even relate? | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | Project xubuntu-website, iirc. | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | (LP: #797600 if you didn't see.) | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 797600 in Xubuntu Website "Enable translations for the Xubuntu website" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797600 | 21:33 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, The bug i'm looking at is a dupe of some non-english xubuntu issues, one of the ones listed is that a translated link goes to and english only website | 21:35 |
| Unit193 | Aha, I see! A reference to it rather than direct link. gotcha. That's not likely to get "fixed" soon anyway. | 21:36 |
| Noskcaj | bug 1308533 is now the main bug. I'll look into an SRU when i get back from soccer. Hopefully someone, somewhere, is already working on thunderbird | 21:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1308533 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Non-english live-cd: some programs are in English although their name is in Non-english, and vice-versa" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308533 | 21:39 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: oh... did you forget about bug 733563 ? :) | 21:44 |
| ubottu | bug 733563 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) "Can't change font for keyboard layout indicator" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733563 | 21:44 |
| brainwash | the patch wasn't included due to FF (trusty) | 21:47 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, yes. And now it's the FF again. | 21:48 |
| Unit193 | Stupid FF... :D | 21:48 |
| brainwash | yeah :/ | 21:49 |
| brainwash | bad luck | 21:49 |
| Noskcaj | Is it worth an FFe? if so, i can get it made later today | 21:49 |
| brainwash | don't think so | 21:49 |
| Noskcaj | Hopefully i'll remember it for 15.04 then | 21:50 |
| brainwash | :) | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | It'll be nice when 15.04 opens, yeah. | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Once we hear back from Lubuntu, we looking to fix xfpm/lxpanel? | 23:51 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I think that'd be best for them | 23:52 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:52 |
| Unit193 | we=you, of course! :---D | 23:53 |
| bluesabre | oh wait, now its just me? | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | tab complete | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: do it | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | ;) | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | I cheated, tab-complete filled me in | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | :( | 23:55 |
| Unit193 | Heh, well I have the fixes, though I think rather than splitting a -dev out we'll just jam it in lxpanel like Debian does. Next release will have -dev, better not to change stuff. | 23:55 |
| Unit193 | The xfpm dep could even be lxpanel-dev | lxpanel to fix it now and later (it'll fall back to lxpanel since it can't get -dev.) | 23:56 |
| bluesabre | neat | 23:56 |
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