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LinnakUbuntustudio 14.04.1 32bit livedvd doesn't play avi video. It's on pause and I can't start it. Why?05:20
LinnakHi, How can it be possible that a lot of simpler Ubuntu based distro has video codecs but Ubuntustudio doesn't? The LiveDVD doesn't play avi with xvid codec. Why? Kubuntu why plays and others why play?09:59
LinnakIs here anyone?10:03
cfhowlettLinnak, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras10:19
LinnakI know. Thank, but why isn't built in already?10:20
cfhowlett!info xubuntu-restricted-extrasLinnak, legal.10:20
ubottu'legal.' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed10:20
cfhowlett!info xubuntu-restricted-extras Linnak, legal.10:20
ubottu'Linnak,' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed10:20
LinnakHow much can I install on a Live DVD? Depends on my Merory size?10:21
cfhowlettLinnak, yes.10:21
LinnakSo because XFCE has that's why doesn't has the codec? Why Voyager Linux has. That is also with XFCE?10:22
cfhowlettvoyager is not ubuntu.  xfce is not a codec - it's a desktop environment.  restricted extras are LEGALLY restricted.10:23
LinnakLet me see clearer. Voyager based on Xubuntu, Xubuntu based on Ubuntu. All based on Ubuntu. Why Ubuntustudio is restricted and oders not?10:24
cfhowlettLinnak, see the first paragraph ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats10:25
cfhowlettLinnak, voyager IS NOT ubuntu.10:25
LinnakBased ON10:25
cfhowlettLinnak, read the link10:25
LinnakI'm reading10:25
LinnakAll the links below easy install are disabled10:26
LinnakCan I "remaster" a LiveCD for myself with the codecs?10:26
cfhowlettLinnak, of course.10:27
LinnakI know remastersys is down. What is instead nowdays?10:27
cfhowlettLinnak, note that one additional codec is required to play DVD's10:27
cfhowlettLinnak, never mastered one myself.  please ask how to custom master in #ubuntu        ... more eyes on the problem.10:28
LinnakThank you.10:28
cfhowlettLinnak, happy2help10:28
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fabio_i've tried lmms on ubuntu 14.04 but the version 1.0.0 seems a little unstable.. what i can do?12:21
bah__bah16:13
holsteinbah__: how can we assist you?16:14
delt_Hello16:46
delt_qtractor just hangs there on startup - how to get it working?16:47
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deltJust tested with the guest account, left qtractor running several minutes - nothing.16:54
deltstrace -Ff stops outputting after startup17:00
deltaha, got it... it's something to do with LV2 plugins.17:10
deltSetting LV2_PATH to say, /tmp didn't help, but moving /lib/lv2 to /lib/lv2_ did, now i get a running qtractor.17:11
deltexcept no LV2 plugins.17:12
holsteindelt: sounds like it may be an issue in the lv2's then17:13
holsteindelt: is jack running stable before trying to start qtractor? do other DAW's use the lv2's? are you using any ppa's?17:14
deltjack seems to be running fine.17:15
deltrenoise is also running, using jack.17:15
deltno ppa's at the moment.17:15
holsteinare you up to date with upgrades?17:16
deltyeah, as far as i can tell...17:16
holsteindelt: ?17:16
holsteindelt: in a terminal, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"17:16
deltqtractor is already the newest version.17:16
deltwhy dist-upgrade?17:17
holsteini would start qtractor (as much as default as possible) using the defaults configs/etc, starting from the command line and see if you have any helpful error output17:17
holsteindelt: its not "distribution upgrade"17:17
holsteindelt: i suggest it becuase it will update everything with apt17:17
deltok, it says a few packages will be updated, evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common evolution-data-server-online-accounts libcamel-1.2-45 libebackend-1.2-7 libebook-1.2-14 libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libecal-1.2-16 libedata-book-1.2-20 libedata-cal-1.2-23 libedataserver-1.2-18 python3-distupgrade rpcbind ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk17:18
holstein!paste17:22
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:22
deltah ok thanks17:24
deltanyway, the update completed, and moving lv2_ back to lv2, same problem: qtractor just shows an empty window and hangs there...17:28
deltseems like there was nothing touching /usr/lib/lv2 in the update, or else i would have ended up with a duplicate lv2 directory17:29
holsteindelt: please try, *after* getting jack running stable, run qtractor from the command line, and see if you get error output that is helpful17:30
deltjack is running stable17:30
holsteindelt: keep in mind, i do not know any of the changes you have made, that can be "breaking" the system17:30
holsteindelt: ok.. please, go ahead, then, and open a terminal, and start qtractor from there.. see if you have any "error" messages when it hangs17:31
deltand i do run qtractor from the command line, it gives no messages on stdout17:31
holsteini would look at qjackctl as well and check ghe messages there17:31
holsteinthe*17:31
delti ran it through strace -Ff and the messages stop after it completed startup17:31
holsteindelt: after what completed startup?17:32
deltqtractor17:33
holsteindelt: i was troubleshooting with you that qtractor wouldnt start.. so, we'll have to go back a few steps since it *is* starting17:33
deltoh, qtractor causes a LOT of error messages in qjackctl's "messages" window... 2 sec i'm pastebin'ing it17:34
holsteinim not understanding the issues17:34
deltpastebin is being slow...17:34
delttrying again.....17:36
deltfirefox still says "sending request to pastebin.com..."17:36
holsteinthere are many paste services, such as the ubuntu one i linked above.. but, you can just scan them, and see what looks relevant, and drop them into google17:37
deltok, faster this way: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/qjackctl.txt17:37
deltor, finally, http://pastebin.com/8ydaFxrT17:38
holsteini would just relax my jack settings.. it could be that simple17:39
deltthis is with renoise closed down, but qtractor still hanged on startup17:39
holsteindelt: i would make sure those processes are not running in the background still17:40
deltps xau | grep -i renoise gives me nothing17:40
deltexcept the ps xau process itself17:40
holsteindelt: sure.. renoise is *not* what we are talking about, correct?17:40
holsteindelt: are we not troubleshooting qtractor?17:41
deltoh, i thought you meant renoise when you said 13:38 < holstein> delt: i would make sure those processes are not running in the background still17:41
holsteinplease check that *all* processes using jack are stopped, stop jack, and relax the settings17:41
holsteindelt: ok17:41
holsteindelt: just ignore that then, and do this, specifically17:41
deltso, what would be "relaxed" enough settings?17:42
holsteindelt: make sure *any* and *all* processes using jack are stopped.. then, stop jack, and make certain its stopped. then, please relax the jack settings17:42
holsteindelt: i would relax them, extremely, as a test17:42
holsteindelt: like, 80+ms latency setting, whatever that is for your hardware17:42
deltok, stopped jack, i still have two "/usr/bin/jackdbus auto" processes running, but that is normal i guess17:43
holsteindelt: no17:43
holsteindelt: i would kill *all* jack processes.. and relax the settings17:43
deltok, had to kill them -917:44
deltnow i have only qjackctl running with jack off ... so to speak (:17:45
deltwell... stopped =)17:46
deltfor the settings, i had already set the timeout to 2000ms... now i have a latency of 92.7ms with 1024 frames/buffer and 4 periods17:47
deltat 44.1k17:47
holsteini would leave the periods to 2. or at least experiement with that at 217:47
holsteinraise the other.. the frames/buffer17:47
holsteinregardless, dont waste too much time here.. this is *not* a fix.. its just a step for you to learn from17:48
deltok, frames set to 2048 for the same latency17:48
deltclick "ok" then "start" ?17:49
deltoh btw i really don't think the problem is with jack, since qtractor seemed to work fine when i temporarily moved the "lv2" plugin directory out of the way17:50
holsteindelt: ok17:58
holsteindelt: enjoy!17:58
holsteindelt: i would then, as i said in the beginning, look into the lv2 plugins17:58
holsteindelt: you can try #opensourcemusicians17:58
deltweird thing is, looks like it still tries to load them when i set LV2_PATH to, say, /tmp17:59
holsteindelt: sure.. its *designed* to load them17:59
deltor /asldkfjaksldfj17:59
holsteindelt: its advertised as loading them17:59
holsteini personally wouldnt mess about with the settings there..17:59
deltlike /usr/lib/lv2 was hardcoded in qtractor or something17:59
holsteincould be18:00
holsteini would step back into older versions of qtractor.. i would troubleshoot with jack settings.. i would try lv2's other places..18:00
deltseems like it might be, according to http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1153018:00
holsteinso, try another version of qtractor18:01
holstein!bug18:01
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:01
holsteinfor backporting the "Fix" if there is one, and you can confirm the issue, and thats the issue18:01
delthow do i "apt-get" an older version of a package?18:02
deltor do i have to find the .deb file, if it's available somewhere?18:02
andrew__hope someone can help me getting frustrated.M audio fast track showing in alsa but no sound18:19
deltholstein: downgraded qtractor to qtractor_0.5.4-1_amd64.deb, problem appears to be solved.18:22
deltholstein: question is, when i do an update, will it overwrite it again with the newer version?18:22
deltif so, how can i prevent that?18:23
andrew_hope someone can help me getting frustrated.M audio fast track showing in alsa but no sound18:28
mlpugandrew_, where do you expect sound18:35
mlpugturn all mic switches on and gains to southeast, connect maudio to system output in jackd. yes sound should come from your speakers18:36
andrew_well i guess from the monitors i was trying to use it with ardour.When i open jack i see the fast track in the input options but nothing in the connect window18:37
andrew_in the setup window of qjackc i see hw1 fast track and hw o usb audio18:40
mlpugI think that in my case the solution was that I did see the devices in the terminal: arecord -l, identified USB recording device there 1/0 and then launched jackd with corresponding parameter -C  hw:1,018:45
mlpugotherwise it tries to record from some other device than you think18:46
andrew_im new to this stuff what do you mean by parameter c18:47
mlpugI launch jackd with this command:   /usr/bin/jackd -p 128 -r -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 48000 -p 1024 -P hw:0,0 -C hw:1,0 &18:47
mlpugI refer to the last parameter "-C hw:1,0"18:47
andrew_ok in aplay -l and arecord -l i see the fast track18:49
mlpugsee the maudio card number and device number from arecord -l18:50
mlpugand use those when you launch jackd18:50
andrew_ok thanx ill try it but have to restart because now im getting an error dbus jak cant be started18:53
mlpugyou can also    killall jackd19:01
andrew_well i started jack with the terminal command but i still have nothing going to ardour19:09
andrew_and no sound19:12
mlpugI dont know. some random ideas: killall -9 pulseaudio. record to a file from command line e.g. arecord -D hw:1,0 -d 12 -f cd test.wav  (again ensure hw:1,0 is match with what your arecord -l reports)19:16
mlpugand my very first question where do you expect sound. I am not using ardour but I guess you are not supposed to hear what you say to mic without explicitly recording&playing or without routing the audio to the speakers. So how do you expect to see the audio in ardour?19:18
andrew_well with the mixer in ardour shows nothing on the channel strip19:19
mlpugbut yes putting ardour recording rolling you should see waveforms flowing into a track19:19
andrew_ya i dont19:19
andrew_sorry for the lack of knowledge totally new to linux19:20
mlpugbut if you try that commandline recording the you have more idea if the problem is in maudio-usb world or in ardour world19:20
andrew_ok ill try that ill have to get back here this should take me a while new to the command line to lol19:21
andrew_card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC662 rev3 Analog [ALC662 rev3 Analog]19:23
andrew_  Subdevices: 1/119:23
andrew_  Subdevice #0: subdevice #019:23
andrew_card 1: Track [Fast Track], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]19:23
andrew_  Subdevices: 1/119:23
andrew_  Subdevice #0: subdevice #019:23
andrew_thats what i get from a record19:23
mlpugokay. then     arecord -D hw:1,0 -d 12 -f cd test.wav     some leds may blink in the maudio if it has leds, turn the kmaudio gain nobs, but the mic on, and sing19:26
andrew_the led is blinking on the maudio but still no signal getting to ardour and no auudio19:39
andrew_i may have made a mistake in typing the command19:39
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holsteindelt: you can "pin" the package to the older version, but i would personally just update, and test, and make a note of what version is working, so you can revert to it22:12

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