[05:20] <Linnak> Ubuntustudio 14.04.1 32bit livedvd doesn't play avi video. It's on pause and I can't start it. Why?
[09:59] <Linnak> Hi, How can it be possible that a lot of simpler Ubuntu based distro has video codecs but Ubuntustudio doesn't? The LiveDVD doesn't play avi with xvid codec. Why? Kubuntu why plays and others why play?
[10:03] <Linnak> Is here anyone?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Linnak, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:20] <Linnak> I know. Thank, but why isn't built in already?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> !info xubuntu-restricted-extrasLinnak, legal.
[10:20] <cfhowlett> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras Linnak, legal.
[10:21] <Linnak> How much can I install on a Live DVD? Depends on my Merory size?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> Linnak, yes.
[10:22] <Linnak> So because XFCE has that's why doesn't has the codec? Why Voyager Linux has. That is also with XFCE?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> voyager is not ubuntu.  xfce is not a codec - it's a desktop environment.  restricted extras are LEGALLY restricted.
[10:24] <Linnak> Let me see clearer. Voyager based on Xubuntu, Xubuntu based on Ubuntu. All based on Ubuntu. Why Ubuntustudio is restricted and oders not?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Linnak, see the first paragraph ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Linnak, voyager IS NOT ubuntu.
[10:25] <Linnak> Based ON
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Linnak, read the link
[10:25] <Linnak> I'm reading
[10:26] <Linnak> All the links below easy install are disabled
[10:26] <Linnak> Can I "remaster" a LiveCD for myself with the codecs?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> Linnak, of course.
[10:27] <Linnak> I know remastersys is down. What is instead nowdays?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> Linnak, note that one additional codec is required to play DVD's
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Linnak, never mastered one myself.  please ask how to custom master in #ubuntu        ... more eyes on the problem.
[10:28] <Linnak> Thank you.
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Linnak, happy2help
[12:21] <fabio_> i've tried lmms on ubuntu 14.04 but the version 1.0.0 seems a little unstable.. what i can do?
[16:13] <bah__> bah
[16:14] <holstein> bah__: how can we assist you?
[16:46] <delt_> Hello
[16:47] <delt_> qtractor just hangs there on startup - how to get it working?
[16:54] <delt> Just tested with the guest account, left qtractor running several minutes - nothing.
[17:00] <delt> strace -Ff stops outputting after startup
[17:10] <delt> aha, got it... it's something to do with LV2 plugins.
[17:11] <delt> Setting LV2_PATH to say, /tmp didn't help, but moving /lib/lv2 to /lib/lv2_ did, now i get a running qtractor.
[17:12] <delt> except no LV2 plugins.
[17:13] <holstein> delt: sounds like it may be an issue in the lv2's then
[17:14] <holstein> delt: is jack running stable before trying to start qtractor? do other DAW's use the lv2's? are you using any ppa's?
[17:15] <delt> jack seems to be running fine.
[17:15] <delt> renoise is also running, using jack.
[17:15] <delt> no ppa's at the moment.
[17:16] <holstein> are you up to date with upgrades?
[17:16] <delt> yeah, as far as i can tell...
[17:16] <holstein> delt: ?
[17:16] <holstein> delt: in a terminal, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:16] <delt> qtractor is already the newest version.
[17:17] <delt> why dist-upgrade?
[17:17] <holstein> i would start qtractor (as much as default as possible) using the defaults configs/etc, starting from the command line and see if you have any helpful error output
[17:17] <holstein> delt: its not "distribution upgrade"
[17:17] <holstein> delt: i suggest it becuase it will update everything with apt
[17:18] <delt> ok, it says a few packages will be updated, evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common evolution-data-server-online-accounts libcamel-1.2-45 libebackend-1.2-7 libebook-1.2-14 libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libecal-1.2-16 libedata-book-1.2-20 libedata-cal-1.2-23 libedataserver-1.2-18 python3-distupgrade rpcbind ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
[17:22] <holstein> !paste
[17:24] <delt> ah ok thanks
[17:28] <delt> anyway, the update completed, and moving lv2_ back to lv2, same problem: qtractor just shows an empty window and hangs there...
[17:29] <delt> seems like there was nothing touching /usr/lib/lv2 in the update, or else i would have ended up with a duplicate lv2 directory
[17:30] <holstein> delt: please try, *after* getting jack running stable, run qtractor from the command line, and see if you get error output that is helpful
[17:30] <delt> jack is running stable
[17:30] <holstein> delt: keep in mind, i do not know any of the changes you have made, that can be "breaking" the system
[17:31] <holstein> delt: ok.. please, go ahead, then, and open a terminal, and start qtractor from there.. see if you have any "error" messages when it hangs
[17:31] <delt> and i do run qtractor from the command line, it gives no messages on stdout
[17:31] <holstein> i would look at qjackctl as well and check ghe messages there
[17:31] <holstein> the*
[17:31] <delt> i ran it through strace -Ff and the messages stop after it completed startup
[17:32] <holstein> delt: after what completed startup?
[17:33] <delt> qtractor
[17:33] <holstein> delt: i was troubleshooting with you that qtractor wouldnt start.. so, we'll have to go back a few steps since it *is* starting
[17:34] <delt> oh, qtractor causes a LOT of error messages in qjackctl's "messages" window... 2 sec i'm pastebin'ing it
[17:34] <holstein> im not understanding the issues
[17:34] <delt> pastebin is being slow...
[17:36] <delt> trying again.....
[17:36] <delt> firefox still says "sending request to pastebin.com..."
[17:37] <holstein> there are many paste services, such as the ubuntu one i linked above.. but, you can just scan them, and see what looks relevant, and drop them into google
[17:37] <delt> ok, faster this way: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/qjackctl.txt
[17:38] <delt> or, finally, http://pastebin.com/8ydaFxrT
[17:39] <holstein> i would just relax my jack settings.. it could be that simple
[17:39] <delt> this is with renoise closed down, but qtractor still hanged on startup
[17:40] <holstein> delt: i would make sure those processes are not running in the background still
[17:40] <delt> ps xau | grep -i renoise gives me nothing
[17:40] <delt> except the ps xau process itself
[17:40] <holstein> delt: sure.. renoise is *not* what we are talking about, correct?
[17:41] <holstein> delt: are we not troubleshooting qtractor?
[17:41] <delt> oh, i thought you meant renoise when you said 13:38 < holstein> delt: i would make sure those processes are not running in the background still
[17:41] <holstein> please check that *all* processes using jack are stopped, stop jack, and relax the settings
[17:41] <holstein> delt: ok
[17:41] <holstein> delt: just ignore that then, and do this, specifically
[17:42] <delt> so, what would be "relaxed" enough settings?
[17:42] <holstein> delt: make sure *any* and *all* processes using jack are stopped.. then, stop jack, and make certain its stopped. then, please relax the jack settings
[17:42] <holstein> delt: i would relax them, extremely, as a test
[17:42] <holstein> delt: like, 80+ms latency setting, whatever that is for your hardware
[17:43] <delt> ok, stopped jack, i still have two "/usr/bin/jackdbus auto" processes running, but that is normal i guess
[17:43] <holstein> delt: no
[17:43] <holstein> delt: i would kill *all* jack processes.. and relax the settings
[17:44] <delt> ok, had to kill them -9
[17:45] <delt> now i have only qjackctl running with jack off ... so to speak (:
[17:46] <delt> well... stopped =)
[17:47] <delt> for the settings, i had already set the timeout to 2000ms... now i have a latency of 92.7ms with 1024 frames/buffer and 4 periods
[17:47] <delt> at 44.1k
[17:47] <holstein> i would leave the periods to 2. or at least experiement with that at 2
[17:47] <holstein> raise the other.. the frames/buffer
[17:48] <holstein> regardless, dont waste too much time here.. this is *not* a fix.. its just a step for you to learn from
[17:48] <delt> ok, frames set to 2048 for the same latency
[17:49] <delt> click "ok" then "start" ?
[17:50] <delt> oh btw i really don't think the problem is with jack, since qtractor seemed to work fine when i temporarily moved the "lv2" plugin directory out of the way
[17:58] <holstein> delt: ok
[17:58] <holstein> delt: enjoy!
[17:58] <holstein> delt: i would then, as i said in the beginning, look into the lv2 plugins
[17:58] <holstein> delt: you can try #opensourcemusicians
[17:59] <delt> weird thing is, looks like it still tries to load them when i set LV2_PATH to, say, /tmp
[17:59] <holstein> delt: sure.. its *designed* to load them
[17:59] <delt> or /asldkfjaksldfj
[17:59] <holstein> delt: its advertised as loading them
[17:59] <holstein> i personally wouldnt mess about with the settings there..
[17:59] <delt> like /usr/lib/lv2 was hardcoded in qtractor or something
[18:00] <holstein> could be
[18:00] <holstein> i would step back into older versions of qtractor.. i would troubleshoot with jack settings.. i would try lv2's other places..
[18:00] <delt> seems like it might be, according to http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11530
[18:01] <holstein> so, try another version of qtractor
[18:01] <holstein> !bug
[18:01] <holstein> for backporting the "Fix" if there is one, and you can confirm the issue, and thats the issue
[18:02] <delt> how do i "apt-get" an older version of a package?
[18:02] <delt> or do i have to find the .deb file, if it's available somewhere?
[18:19] <andrew__> hope someone can help me getting frustrated.M audio fast track showing in alsa but no sound
[18:22] <delt> holstein: downgraded qtractor to qtractor_0.5.4-1_amd64.deb, problem appears to be solved.
[18:22] <delt> holstein: question is, when i do an update, will it overwrite it again with the newer version?
[18:23] <delt> if so, how can i prevent that?
[18:28] <andrew_> hope someone can help me getting frustrated.M audio fast track showing in alsa but no sound
[18:35] <mlpug> andrew_, where do you expect sound
[18:36] <mlpug> turn all mic switches on and gains to southeast, connect maudio to system output in jackd. yes sound should come from your speakers
[18:37] <andrew_> well i guess from the monitors i was trying to use it with ardour.When i open jack i see the fast track in the input options but nothing in the connect window
[18:40] <andrew_> in the setup window of qjackc i see hw1 fast track and hw o usb audio
[18:45] <mlpug> I think that in my case the solution was that I did see the devices in the terminal: arecord -l, identified USB recording device there 1/0 and then launched jackd with corresponding parameter -C  hw:1,0
[18:46] <mlpug> otherwise it tries to record from some other device than you think
[18:47] <andrew_> im new to this stuff what do you mean by parameter c
[18:47] <mlpug> I launch jackd with this command:   /usr/bin/jackd -p 128 -r -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 48000 -p 1024 -P hw:0,0 -C hw:1,0 &
[18:47] <mlpug> I refer to the last parameter "-C hw:1,0"
[18:49] <andrew_> ok in aplay -l and arecord -l i see the fast track
[18:50] <mlpug> see the maudio card number and device number from arecord -l
[18:50] <mlpug> and use those when you launch jackd
[18:53] <andrew_> ok thanx ill try it but have to restart because now im getting an error dbus jak cant be started
[19:01] <mlpug> you can also    killall jackd
[19:09] <andrew_> well i started jack with the terminal command but i still have nothing going to ardour
[19:12] <andrew_> and no sound
[19:16] <mlpug> I dont know. some random ideas: killall -9 pulseaudio. record to a file from command line e.g. arecord -D hw:1,0 -d 12 -f cd test.wav  (again ensure hw:1,0 is match with what your arecord -l reports)
[19:18] <mlpug> and my very first question where do you expect sound. I am not using ardour but I guess you are not supposed to hear what you say to mic without explicitly recording&playing or without routing the audio to the speakers. So how do you expect to see the audio in ardour?
[19:19] <andrew_> well with the mixer in ardour shows nothing on the channel strip
[19:19] <mlpug> but yes putting ardour recording rolling you should see waveforms flowing into a track
[19:19] <andrew_> ya i dont
[19:20] <andrew_> sorry for the lack of knowledge totally new to linux
[19:20] <mlpug> but if you try that commandline recording the you have more idea if the problem is in maudio-usb world or in ardour world
[19:21] <andrew_> ok ill try that ill have to get back here this should take me a while new to the command line to lol
[19:23] <andrew_> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC662 rev3 Analog [ALC662 rev3 Analog]
[19:23] <andrew_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:23] <andrew_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:23] <andrew_> card 1: Track [Fast Track], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[19:23] <andrew_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:23] <andrew_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:23] <andrew_> thats what i get from a record
[19:26] <mlpug> okay. then     arecord -D hw:1,0 -d 12 -f cd test.wav     some leds may blink in the maudio if it has leds, turn the kmaudio gain nobs, but the mic on, and sing
[19:39] <andrew_> the led is blinking on the maudio but still no signal getting to ardour and no auudio
[19:39] <andrew_> i may have made a mistake in typing the command
[22:12] <holstein> delt: you can "pin" the package to the older version, but i would personally just update, and test, and make a note of what version is working, so you can revert to it