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Unit193skellat: Have you by chance looked into apt-offline?00:04
* skellat has been house painting today but is checking packages.d.o real quick00:05
skellatIt is in our packageset, maintainer hasn't updated Debian-side, I'd say carry the delta *buntu-side and then that can flow upstream00:06
skellatIf bluesabre is willing to pound on the code00:06
Unit193Doesn't have to, fixed in git.00:07
skellatIt would still be a delta until the maintainer updated the package in Debian if we updated it on our side00:08
* skellat wanders off to go look at the git tree and see about chasing down a maintainer00:12
Unit193debfx is upstream and maintainer.00:14
skellatSee: https://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt-offline.html00:16
skellatrrs is listed as maintainer00:16
Unit193Whoops, got my maintainers mixed up.00:16
Unit193skellat: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt-offline/apt-offline.git/commit/?id=debf1ea478ec05bbfea4005156c1652af69ebd80 isn't bad at all, FWIW.00:16
skellatUnit193: Can we just cherry pick that fix for now?00:17
Unit193bluesabre is the tech lead and Xubuntu dev, but I don't see why not.00:18
skellatbluesabre: Unit193 just passed the buck00:19
skellatUnit193: E-mailed the maintainer and BCC'd you on it00:25
Unit193Cool, WFM.  Thanks.00:25
skellatNo, not work for you.  I'm in the hotseat and not you.00:26
Unit193Hah, well you know what I meant, I think.00:27
bluesabrelet me know what I need to do01:19
Unit193brainwash: Dowh, your freshplayer builds done be failin', right when I want to try it again too. :(01:38
brainwashUnit193: :(08:55
brainwashNoskcaj: bug 1339911 can be closed, right?09:18
ubottubug 1339911 in xfce4-clipman-plugin (Ubuntu) "[MRE] Please update xfce4-clipman-plugin to 1.2.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133991109:18
Noskcajbrainwash, no, why would it?09:41
brainwashNoskcaj: see "Utopic (2:1.2.6-1): universe/x11 "09:42
NoskcajMRE = micro-release except = targeted at trusty09:42
brainwashoh09:42
brainwashhow long does it take to actually land in trusty?09:43
brainwashshould be pushed to -proposed first, right?09:44
Noskcajbrainwash, yeah. It's been ignored, so if you could bring some attention to it09:44
brainwashI don't feel like bothering the sru team :/09:45
NoskcajWe'll have to for the translation bug, so i'll mention it when i'm working on it09:46
Noskcajbug 1308533 is now an SRU09:54
ubottubug 1308533 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Non-english live-cd: some programs are in English although their name is in Non-english, and vice-versa" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130853309:54
NoskcajAre there any other packages that could be MREed?10:03
brainwashNoskcaj: maybe xfdesktop 4.11.710:08
brainwashsee http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/tree/NEWS10:08
brainwashthe new point release also adds some small tweaks (features?)10:09
brainwashlike "Add a move to trash menu option"10:09
brainwashso I'm not sure if it qualifies for MRE10:10
bluesabreok guys, beta freeze monday... I'll be uploading packages through Sunday night. If it needs a FFe, please go ahead and write it up in advance :)11:06
bluesabreochosi: let me know when you think elementary-xfce git is release ready11:06
* bluesabre starts his morning with anime11:08
bluesabreelfy: let me know if/when you're around12:23
bluesabreanybody else see this when using the daily iso in virtualbox... http://imgur.com/VJq3BNu13:15
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bluesabresuppose this is a good excuse to take gnome-boxes for a spin13:24
bluesabreochosi: utopic, CSD with compositor: http://imgur.com/9rAtRdj and without: http://imgur.com/JHNyHXB13:27
bluesabreassuming you hadn't already checked it out13:28
elfybluesabre: vbox - known issue I think - tty1 then tty7 and you'll be good to go 13:51
bluesabreor vmware player it seems13:54
bluesabre:)13:54
bluesabreelfy, you were having issues with light-locker-settings in utopic?13:55
elfybluesabre: I was - it kept blanking the screen - had to blitz the autostart file in config, seems to be ok now, reusing lls and it creating a new autostart isn't causing issues14:29
bluesabreok, which autostart file had to be killed?14:29
bluesabrescreensaver?14:30
elfylls14:30
elfylight-locker 14:30
bluesabreah14:30
bluesabrecan you pastebin your current light-locker.desktop file?14:31
elfyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8122878/14:31
elfybut that's not causing an issue :)14:32
bluesabreright14:32
bluesabreprobably don't have the trouble one though, right?14:32
elfynot got the one that was I'm afraid 14:32
elfyno - it'd been sitting in trash but I cleared it this morning14:32
bluesabreD:14:33
elfyall I can say is the old one looked exactly the same as ^^ except the NoDisplay=true was missing14:33
elfythe Exce= line was the same14:34
elfywas odd - everything was set right but xset q | grep timeout was 600 regardless 14:37
bluesabreah14:40
bluesabreok14:40
bluesabreI think I know the issue14:40
elfycurrently the weather is fine with utopic all across the board for me :p14:40
elfyok - cool14:41
elfyochosi did say something about old ll desktop file after upgrade iirc 14:41
bluesabrewhen we detect a screensaver manager, we kill the screensaver autostart file (which sets xset, etc)14:41
bluesabrebut we don't try to restore any default settings14:41
elfyok, I can understand that :)14:42
bluesabrenot entirely sure how to go about that, other than you need to log out once after using the new light-locker-settings14:42
bluesabreonce that screensaver autostart file is gone, won't be an issue any longer14:42
elfyyep - that agrees with what I was seeing, 10 minute blanking till I removed the file14:43
bluesabreok14:43
bluesabrewe should also create a default light-locker autostart file that uses the same settings that we create with light-locker-settings14:44
bluesabreotherwise, the default is light-locker with no args14:44
* bluesabre is just thinking out loud to see if anybody disagrees14:44
* elfy would agree with the logic in that 14:45
bluesabrelogin screen panel config needs updated for lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.9... we now have a bit more flexibility with arrangement.  Did some sample configs, http://imgur.com/a/aSj6W#015:07
bluesabreheading out for a while now, bbl17:15
brainwashbluesabre: any idea if we can fix bug 1050012 ? currently the xfce4 package has gtk3-engines-xfce on the Suggests list18:23
ubottubug 1050012 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "Stock Xfce does not have a default GTK 3 theme" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105001218:23
brainwashthe bug is marked as wishlist, but I'm not sure if we can actually do anything to improve stuff18:24
brainwashother than moving gtk3-engines-xfce to Recommends18:24
elfy!team | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-230814-220012.php21:00
Unit193Another satisfied customer.21:11
brainwashlike ubuntu before unity... mmh, I guess he will like the ubuntu mate spin :>21:14
Unit193That's what I was thinking, actually. ;P21:15
brainwashali1234: any idea what's going on here bug 1087242 ?21:25
ubottubug 1087242 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "XFWM4 not disabling the compositor effects on some fullscreen apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108724221:25
ali1234i could have a guess21:25
ali1234there are different types of fullscreen21:26
ali1234there's true fullscreen, which is like changing screen mode. SDL 1.2 does this, and it turns off external monitors. it is really annoying21:26
ali1234so now most new games use a different technique21:26
ali1234they open a normal window the same size as the primary monitor, with no decorations21:26
ali1234xfwm can't detect this type of window, so it still gets composited21:27
ali1234this is a total guess though, i would have to check the source to find out21:27
ali1234we could perhaps add some extra detection rules if this is what is happening, but it might behave strangely21:28
NoskcajI'm not sure where the issue is, but dota 2 (and many other games) require custom launch options to work in xfce21:29
ali1234i've played dota 2 and it worked fine21:29
ali1234i do use nvidia though21:29
NoskcajOtherwise you cannot alt-tab or click on popups21:29
ali1234everything works fine with nvidia, even with compositing enabled21:29
Noskcajali1234, strange, i have to have -nomousegrab on21:29
Noskcajand apparently a lot of other people21:30
Noskcajalso, add me on dota21:30
ali1234i played it once, never again :)21:30
ali1234didn't like it21:30
Noskcaj600 hours here21:30
ali1234not my thing, i prefer single player games21:30
Noskcajshame.21:31
* Noskcaj leaves to get food21:31
brainwashali1234: did you see my message?21:34
ali1234about the bug? yes21:35
brainwashand did you give some answer while I was timing out? :)21:35
ali1234yes :)21:35
ali1234the problem is probably fake-fullscreen mode21:36
ali1234not a real fullscreen window, just a window with no decorations the same size as the monitor21:36
ali1234it's popular now because it works better21:36
ali1234but the window manager can't detect it21:36
brainwashah, I'm familiar with that21:36
ali1234just a guess though21:36
brainwashmakes sense21:36
brainwashwant to add this information to the report?21:37
ali1234i'd prefer to confirm by checking the source code first21:37
ali1234but i'm a bit busy at the moment21:37
brainwashno need to hurry21:38
ali1234subscribe me to the bug please21:38
ali1234otherwise i'll forget21:38
brainwashdone21:39
ali1234cheers21:39
brainwashit's an interesting bug report after all21:39
brainwashwhich had been ignored all the time21:39
=== Unit193 is now known as TheMaster

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