[00:02] how do I register my nick [00:04] !register [00:04] Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [00:04] Gtownspartan: ^^^ [00:05] thx [00:06] I love to see new kubuntu users in IRC [00:06] :-) === Gtownspartan is now known as gtownspartan [00:39] Is there a widget that will put a wireless monitor on lower-right area of desktop panel? === TheMaster is now known as Unit193 === ubuntu is now known as Guest90557 === Michael is now known as Guest56557 === Graefin_Westerho is now known as Graf_Westerholt [07:32] Good morning. [08:17] lordievader, yesterday valorie helped me out some more. The installation of kile was completed without any error, only lots of warnings complaining about pre-existing configuration files [08:18] Ossido: Good to hear, you latex works like it should? [08:18] then in trying to install the recommended packages for kile, we found a problem because one of the recommended packages does not have a candidate [08:18] well, tex-common does, but it's not enough for me [08:18] I can compile a very bare document [08:19] but not my work files [08:19] Ossido: What package has problems? [08:20] texlive-doc-base [08:20] the error is [08:20] Package texlive-doc-base is not available, but is referred to by another package. [08:20] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [08:20] is only available from another source [08:20] E: Package 'texlive-doc-base' has no installation candidate [08:20] !paste | Ossido [08:20] Ossido: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:20] I even filed a bug report on launchpad [08:21] Ossido: What is the output of "apt-cache policy texlive-doc-base"? [08:21] By the by, it is documentation, it should not matter. [08:21] can I paste it? [08:22] here it ishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8129209/ [08:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8129209/ [08:23] !info texlive-doc-base [08:23] don't ask me why it's in Italian [08:23] Package texlive-doc-base does not exist in trusty [08:23] my system is in English [08:23] Ossido: Hmm, wonder why it is referenced. But that is a bug indeed. [08:24] Ossido: Anyhow, what are you missing for your work? [08:24] various packages [08:24] I don't really know where they are located [08:25] Ossido: Could you try installing them one by one? [08:25] how do you do that? [08:26] Ossido: Well I suppose you have some idea of what needs to be installed, just go one package at a time. [08:26] sorry, I mean LaTeX packages, not ubuntu packages [08:27] they are all thrown into some big ubuntu packages, like texlive [08:27] or texlive-full, which is the one I usually install [08:28] if texlive-doc-base is the one that causes the problem, I assume all of texlive is to be avoided for now === steel`afk is now known as clansman [08:33] !info texlive-full [08:33] texlive-full (source: texlive-base): TeX Live: metapackage pulling in all components of TeX Live. In component universe, is optional. Version 2013.20140215-1 (trusty), package size 14 kB, installed size 91 kB [08:34] Ossido: Texlive-full is still available. [08:35] mmh, is it? Because when I purged tex, and then proceeded to install texlive-full, I got the landslide of errors that made me come here, yesterday [08:35] I can try install it again [08:36] will it pull in texlive-doc-base ? === brian is now known as Guest10975 [08:41] lordievader, sorry to bother you more, but do you have any idea why Quassel, that was in English before the upgrade, is now in Italian, and how do I switch it back to English? [08:46] Ossido: It should not. [08:47] Ossido: Seems to me like you switched your system language as apt was also in italian. [08:48] well, how do I put it back to English? [08:48] because from the control panel, the language is already english [08:48] Ossido: System Settings -> Locale -> Country/Region & Language -> Languages [08:49] yes, it's already English [08:49] Ossido: English is also on top? [08:49] yes. I have three languages, from top to bottom: British English, American English, Italian [08:50] Ossido: What is the output of "locale"? [08:50] I don't want to take Italian completely away, because it's convenient for me to have the dictionary and sometimes use the spellchecker [08:50] but I want all applications in English [08:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8129404/ [08:53] I must say, this has been an issue for me since many years. As soon as the system realises that I am doint the installation/update in Italy, I find Italian popping up here and there in random applications, despite the main language being set to English in the System Setting [08:53] Ossido: Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale [08:54] usually every single application has a little switch to change the language of the application, but this time I can't find it [08:55] lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8129430/ [08:55] in any case, apt-get and dpkg were in English, yesterday night [08:55] they switched to Italian while the computer was off... [08:56] (it says that "locale" is not installed) [08:58] Ossido: Err that should have been: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales [08:59] ok, done [08:59] should I restart the computer? [08:59] or maybe just logout and log in again? [09:05] Ossido: Log out and log in should suffice. [09:05] I guess it cannot hurt [09:05] brb [09:15] lordievader, I logged out and the logged back in (just that). Not only is Quassel still in Italian, but now it doens't even log in on freenode any more [09:16] I didn't change anything in the configuration, yet it says * Connessione non riuscita: Network unreachable [09:16] Ossido: Err, wut. How is that possible? [09:26] lordievader: I had to reboot. Quassel wasn't working, I was talking from the freenode webchat, but after my first post the keyboard started printing nonsense instead of what I was printing [09:26] now I've done a reboot, I'm inside Qualles, and it seems to work [09:27] it's still in Italian, though [09:27] Ossido: Pff, strangeness. [09:28] the output of locale is still the same one as the first time === clansman is now known as steel`afk [09:31] Ossido: Hmm, would it have to do with the kde language bug. There was a bug once where the order of languages was ignored. [09:32] but apt-get? [09:32] that one is in Italian too [09:32] starting from today [09:32] Ossido: KDE has the ability to change the system locale [09:32] . [09:33] But it is very strange though. [09:33] and this is a standing bug? [09:33] Ossido: Not sure. [09:34] so should I try bothering somebody else, or just give up and enjoy my Babel? [09:35] good thing I didn't install German as well. I would need it for the spellchecker, but I couldn't cope with an application in German [09:49] What software would you recommend for capturing from the webcam ? [09:49] I'm on Kubuntu14 if that matters [09:51] jubo2: Cheese. [09:52] 'sudo apt info cheese' ? or is this a joke I'm not getting ..? [09:53] looks like a program .. I'ma install it [09:54] jubo2: No, it's the name of the program. [09:55] I wish it was possible to boot same OS on HW and in VirtualBox [09:55] I currently have a Linux in my Windows and Windows in my Linux [09:56] * jubo2 is waiting for the MaidSafe Storage app to come out [09:57] could use a shared partition but MaidSafe Storage much cooler and safer [09:58] lordievader: I have I have deselected Italian from the installed languages and rebooted. Thankfully, now Quassel is in English [09:58] I'm going to add Italian again in the third position, and see what happens === brian is now known as Guest27268 [10:04] lordievader: quite strangely, I still have the Italian spellchecker dictionary even after I deselected Italian as a system language [10:04] Now I'd like a way to trigger Audacity rec and Cheese rec simultaneously [10:04] I'm not going to add it again, then [10:04] and this problem is hopefully solved [10:04] Ossido That is likely true, setting a new language also installes a few packages, one of which is the dictionary. [10:05] maybe I'll try doing the same for German, but another time :) [10:06] jubo2: try Kamoso, Cheese is not a KDE app [10:08] Mamarok: but it runs fine.. fine, fine I install both [10:09] you were asking for a webcam capturing app, and this is Kubuntu, hence my suggestion to use Kamoso, which is KDE [10:10] lordievader, before trying to install texlive-full, which will take a lot of time, there is still one issue that I have noticed [10:10] when I log in, for about 1-2 seconds between the login screen, and the splash screen, the screen becomes very glitch [10:10] *glitchy [10:11] showing a patchwork of images [10:11] including ones from the websites that I have browsed [10:11] (you see that this has a potential for being a big problem) [10:12] Ossido: which screen saver do you use? [10:12] on my first login, it was a corrupted form of my custom splash screen, so I put the standard splash screen [10:12] just a blank screen, Mamarok [10:14] System Settings > Display and Monitor > Screen locker is set to "Simple locker", if this is what you meant [10:15] Ossido: What graphics card + driver do you use? [10:15] Hey everyone. KMixer/general sound question. [10:16] anyway, after I changed the splash screen to the default one, the first time I logged in the glitch was very fine, like a screenshot of static noise, and in all the subsequent logins, there is this mosaic of images that I've seen here, like images from the browser, or random screenshots of my acrivity [10:16] All I can hear is Clementine. No sign of Firefox audio. [10:16] the card is an nvidia geforce GT 425M [10:17] My KMixer's split into four sections by default: two Playback Devices and two Capture Devices tabs. [10:17] It's weird. [10:17] the drivers, from Sistem Settings > Driver management is NVIDIA binary driver version 331.38 from nvidia-331-updates [10:18] Ossido: Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'? [10:18] fishii10: check that all sound channels are activated with alsamixer [10:19] fishii10: and KMix only shows what pulseaudio provides, that is the engine taking care of the various sound in-and outputs [10:19] lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8129945/ [10:19] Ossido: Driver is loaded correctly. [10:20] Oh, okay... [10:20] I'm still sorta confused, though. [10:21] why? [10:21] I'm guessing this is PCM we're talking about and not HDMI, right? [10:21] well, that totally depends on the basic sound settings you have enabled, see system settings -> Multimedia [10:21] Alsamixer from terminal is pretty confusing. I don't really know what all of the channels are and I don't want to be completely earraped... [10:22] no risk, just enable all of them [10:22] so at least Pulseaudio has all available [10:23] question of levels, Alsa is the basic level, if something ismuted there, the higher level sound engies can't access them [10:24] Ah, alright. [10:24] So, if all other tracks are full volume, will they be at the volume of the master track? [10:24] #mmm. Kubuntu14 still booting in 9 s flat [10:25] I'd really like to see the startup texts scroll up instead of splash screen but the GRUB configuration thing didn't appear to do anything [10:25] something something "nosplash" === paolo_ is now known as faLUCEE === faLUCEE is now known as faLUCE [10:25] Just unmuted a track, hugest jumpscare ever [10:26] And I just turned up the Mic track and it sounds like a squealing animal [10:26] jubo2: Remove splash from the kernel parameters, [10:26] Again, jumpscare [10:27] ;_; Why can't these things be simple?... [10:27] well, turn down the volume on kmix, but unmute all alsa channels, doesn't mean you have to crank them up, just make them available to PA [10:28] they are not available if muted [10:29] Oh, okay. That must explain it, 'cause I have everything except master track on full volume on there... [10:34] TagPro still isn't making any noise. [10:35] And I'm getting strange nearly-unnoticeable echoes. [10:37] Ah, got it. [10:44] lordievader: where do I do that ( remove splash screen from Kernel .. parameters ? ) [10:47] lordievader: I have tried to change something in System Settings > Login screen (LightDM). I have changed the theme, and I have set up a custom "background image" and a custom "welcome image", in hope that one of them would replace the glitchy screen [10:47] well, after a reboot nothing happened [10:47] the theme was the same as before [10:47] I didn't see any of the two custom images that I had selected [10:47] and the glitchy screen was still there === steel`afk is now known as clansman [11:18] mmh, I have installed iotop [11:19] baloo_file_extractor is crunching at 99.99% IO [11:19] which is probably the reason why everything is so unresponsive [11:19] dohh.. [11:20] LibreOffice Writer says "wiki" isn't a word in the English language [11:20] is there something I can do about it? [11:24] a [12:06] lordievader: texlive-full was installed with a bunch of warnings, but without errors [12:06] Everything that I need should be in here [12:06] Thank you very much for your help [12:16] Hiyas all [12:24] hi - I am tring to use a 2nd GPU on my Desktop - as well as my normal GPU (Nvidia) I would like to use the motherboards built in one (intel) - how do I go about do this ? [12:24] at present I have the Nvidia going to a DVI connection (my main monitor) [12:24] and the 2nd monitor going to the intel integrated GPU [12:25] the nvidia GPU is seeing my deskop - the 2nd GPU has the kubuntu logo. [12:26] this may also help [12:26] xrandr --listproviders [12:26] shows [12:26] Provider 0: id: 0x2b5 cap: 0x1, Source Output crtcs: 2 outputs: 4 associated providers: 0 name:NVIDIA-0 [12:26] Provider 1: id: 0x49 cap: 0x2, Sink Output crtcs: 4 outputs: 6 associated providers: 0 name:Intel [12:26] how do I use the intel one? [12:27] i.e how can I get anything to display on it? [12:27] (other than the kubuntu logo) [12:40] yossarianuk, I'm not sure how one enable 2 different gpus simultaneously. The BIOS setting for the nvidia PCI gpu probly takes precedence so enabling the intel onboard is an interesting question [12:41] I'd like to know the answer if you find it:) [12:54] BluesKaj: ok - just so your aware it is 'active' but only showing the kubuntu logo [12:55] my 'idea' was that it would be great to test things like wayland/kde5... === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE === pascal is now known as Nauthiz [13:33] Ossido: Good to hear :) [13:34] I have disabled the desktop search [13:34] baloo was making the system completely unusable [13:34] I wanted to try it, but it's unusable [13:35] now I'm left only with the login glitch [13:35] which might be related, actually, to some kind of problem with LightDM [13:35] Baloo allways crashes on me. [13:36] because LightDM doesn't obey to the System Settings at all [13:36] Ossido: ? [13:36] I've tried changing the settings from the System Settings [13:36] * BluesKaj just disables baloo, i have nor real need for it [13:36] but they have no effect [13:36] Ossido: They should... [13:36] well, they don't :/ [13:37] neither changing theme, nor changing the background images [13:37] Ossido, I have to ask the obvious question, after changing your settings are clicking on apply? [13:37] yes [13:37] ok [13:38] Ossido, have you updated and upgraded with apt or the software manager lately? [13:39] yes, a lot. Yesterday I did the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 [13:39] which gave me many problems [13:39] I've spent the last day hammering at them [13:40] what problems? [13:40] with the great help of lordievader and valorie [13:40] at first the graphic login didn't work at all. I fixed it by manually adding the package that the error message asked me to add [13:41] then the latex installation was messed up [13:41] Ossido: You aren't accidentilly using kdm? [13:41] mmh, well, I can't say I am sure [13:41] it's possible [13:41] Ossido: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy kdm'? [13:41] how do I check? I thought kdm had been unistalled [13:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131322/ [13:42] dpkg -l kdm (to check if installed) [13:42] or check update-alternatives (i don't know the command for) [13:43] mmh, I don't understand the output of dpkg -l kdm [13:44] Ossido: It is not installed. [13:44] yes, I thought so because that's the one that I used in 12.04, and I saw it being unistalled during the upgrade process [13:45] Ossido, the new DM is called lightdm [13:45] incidentally, the managers of Ubuntu pastebin should add a link from the pasted lines back to the homepage [13:46] yes, BluesKaj, that's what I understood from finding "Login Screen (LightDM)" among the System Settings [13:46] only, the settings I set there have no effect [13:49] BluesKaj: my real problem is not with the login manager, but with an annoying graphic glitch that happens right after the login [13:50] for 1-2 seconds there is a glitchy screen with a patchwork of random recognisable screenshots from my screen [13:50] then the splash screen animation kicks in [13:51] the glitch is a definite bug [13:51] Ossido, were you using a background pic at the login screen previously on 12.04 ? [13:51] I was using a kdm theme [13:52] with custom login screen, picture and splash animation [13:52] the first time I got the glitch, it was a corrupted version of this custom theme [13:52] after that, I changed everything to the default [13:53] and now, I have set a new picture, but it had no effect [13:53] Ossido, but this glitch doesn't impede the transition tot the splash screen and then the desktop? [13:53] is the picture showing up? [13:54] no, no picture shows up at all. after the splash screen the screen goes briefly all black, then briefly all white, and then it displays my desktop [13:55] Ossido, which graphics card/gpu ? [13:55] nvidia geforce GT 425M [13:55] I'm using the nvidia drivers [13:56] NVIDIA binary driver version 331.38 from nvidia-331-updates [13:56] did you choose the updates over the recommended 331? [13:57] mmh, is that bad? the updates were what I had in 12.04 before upgrading, and they worked [13:57] In trying to solve the issue, I tried switching to the xorg drivers [13:58] but then I went back to these [13:58] should I try the 331? [13:59] Ossido, not necessarily, the recommended driver just the 331 not from the 331 -updates, that's all ...doubt the driver is any different [13:59] anyway the driver shouldn't have anything to do with the fact that LightDM isn't obeying to my settings [14:00] Ossido, i think you have a minor glitch that will probly go away after an update/upgrade or 2 [14:01] well, this minor glitch is quite a serious problem, actually [14:01] as it exposes random screenshots from my activity [14:01] Ossido, do a dist-pgrade to bring your install right up to date [14:01] dist-upgrade [14:02] and the problem with LightDM is a problem anyway [14:03] you mean I should run apt-get dist-upgrade ? [14:03] yes [14:04] it didn't do anything and it pointed out a small list of packages that could be removed with autoremove [14:05] then autoremove them, they're no longer required [14:07] done [14:12] as I'm here, how do I reinstall chromium? is apt-get install --reinstall chromium-browser the right command? [14:13] Ossido, I'm running 14.10 and do dist-upgade, autoclean and autoremove everyday [14:13] no just install [14:13] also if it's already installed? [14:14] after the upgrade the fonts were messed up [14:14] and it doesn't respond to its own font settings [14:14] the tabs and menus use an ugly monospaced font [14:14] which is neither of the three fonts I have selected [14:14] recommend removing then installing [14:14] ok [14:15] apt-get remove chromium-browser? [14:15] fonts always need reconfiguring after upgrading to a new OS [14:15] yes [14:19] and it didn't help [14:20] I removed and reinstalled, and the menu and tabs still have the wrong font [14:28] Ossido, have you tried resetting them in the browser options/preferences ...chromium no longer uses the gtk settings afaik [14:29] yes, there are 4 preferences (default, serif, sans-serif, monodpace), and the font that I see int he tabs, omnibar and menu is a monospace font that is not the one that I put in the preferences [14:34] what should I do? purge it and reinstall it? [14:40] Ossido: Try making a new (Chromium) profile. [14:40] mmh, how do I do that? [14:41] Ossido: Chromium has support for multiple profiles somewhere. [14:43] ok, I have created a new profile [14:43] same problem [14:44] the font in the tabs, omnibar and menu is an ugly monospaced font which is neither the one I set int he chromium settings, nor the one I set in the System Settings [14:50] Ossido: did you try to use this police in another program? [14:50] Exagone313: what police? [14:51] the one you want to use in chromium [14:51] font* [14:51] not police sorry [14:51] oh [14:51] yes, it's the one I use everywhere [14:51] but the point is, the settings in chrome control the font used in rendering the webpages [14:51] and what font do you want? [14:52] well, not a monospaced one [14:52] my issueis with the font in the UI [14:52] that font is not supposed to change [14:52] what font did you tried to set? [14:53] freesans, freeserif, freemono [14:53] but this setting is for the rendering of the webpages [14:54] is doesn't, and it shouldn't, change the font in the UI [14:54] because the font in the UI is not supposed to change [14:54] try to recompile this with the good settings hehe [14:54] I don't know what should be the default, but certainly it wasn't an ugly monospaced font [14:55] I just tried to remove and reinstall, with no effect [14:55] Ossido, purge it [14:55] but copy profiles before this [14:56] mmh, whee are the profiles stored? [14:57] go to ~/ and check masked directories [14:57] none of them looks like a chromium directory [14:57] no .chromium, in particular [14:58] check a search website [14:59] Wasn't it in ~/.config somewhere? [15:00] yes, I found it. Clearly I am doing something wrong [15:00] I copied the .config/chromium [15:01] I purged it with apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser [15:01] I reinstalled it [15:01] and I opened it *before* putting back my .config/chromium [15:01] and yet my profiles and favourites were already there [15:01] together with the faulty fonts [15:02] This it my worst upgrade since I started using kubuntu with faisty [15:05] apparently purging chromium does not remove .config/chromium [15:06] Ok, I purged it, removed the folder in my home, and reinstalled it [15:06] now I get a brand new profile, with the wrong font === shawn is now known as Guest27460 === Guest27460 is now known as _818 [15:20] this system is full of bugs everywhere, I should have never upgraded [15:27] test [15:41] I have tried the nvidia 331 drivers [15:41] the glitch disappeared, but the only available resolution appears to be 640x480 [15:47] Ossido, check the gpu driver [15:47] I'm putting back the update [15:48] How do I check the gpu driver? [15:49] Ossidophone, lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' [15:51] Kernel driver in use: XXXXX [15:52] In this moment I have again the 331-update, and that command gives Kernel driver in use: nvidia [15:53] which I assume to be the right one [15:54] and on login I had again the graphic glitch, and the login manager doesn't respond to the settings [15:56] the font in chromium are still the wrong ones, and I have fond a new weird bug [15:56] do you have an Xorg.conf file? [15:57] if I have Firefox and chromium open, with chromium on the forefront, and I minimize it, the screen glitches [15:57] instead of showing me the firefox window below, it shows the title bar of firefox, but the window is still the one of chromium [15:57] until I go there with the mouse [15:58] BluesKaj: I don't know. Where should it be? [15:59] Ossido, then you probly don't have an Xorg [16:01] Is it possible/feasible to use a different login manager [16:01] given that my installation of lightDM is bugged, anyway? [16:01] or maybe I should try to reinstall it? [16:02] try system settings>desktop effects>advanced, make sure you're using composting type OpenGL 2.0 or 3.1 and qt graphics raster [16:03] Composing type OpenGL 2.0 Qt graphic system Raster [16:04] ok [16:04] besides, in the General tab, it says that all desktop effects are disabled [16:04] because OpenGL compositing (the default) has crashed KWin in the past [16:07] in 12.04 I could choose which login manager to use. Here I don't see the option to change it [16:12] in /etc/lightdm/ there are two different configurations files [16:12] lightdm.conf [16:12] and lightdm-kde-greeter.conf [16:12] is it possible that it is using the wrong one? [16:13] in lightdm-kde-greeter.conf there are the settings that I put in the System Settings [16:13] but they are not executed [16:14] lightdm is the default [16:15] yes, but it doesn't accepts my settings [16:15] do you have separate / and /home partitions? [16:15] I think so, yes [16:15] are you about to suggest a clean reainstall? [16:18] yes, to /only and in ubiquity make sure you don't format /home but set it's moutpoint as /home only, but do format / then install [16:18] I won't do it alone [16:18] use manual partitioning for the settings [16:18] I'm not sure I know how to do it [16:19] I won't do it without somebody here in flesh and bones beside me [16:20] well you can check your partitions in the partition editor in kmenu apps>system to see if you have / and /home [16:22] oh [16:22] maybe I don't have 2 separate [16:23] I see two partitions for windows (dual boot) [16:23] recovery, and its own [16:23] then an extended partition containing 3 more [16:23] one is a small partition for data [16:23] one is linuxswap [16:23] and there is only one big partition other than that [16:24] though the numbering doesn't match [16:24] I have sda1, sda2, sda3, sda5, sda6, sda7 and no sda4 [16:25] this is puzzling, I thought I had a separate partition of /home [16:30] no, it seems I don't have a separate /home partition [16:30] which seems a very pad policy [16:31] Ossido: it is inconvenient more than "bad" [16:32] well, I've always had two separate ones, in my older laptops, and the friend who helped configure this one the first time always said it's better to have them separate [16:33] anyway, is it sensible to try to remove lightdm and to reinstall it? [16:40] It there another screen recording SW than recordMyDesktop [16:40] I find this unrealiable and not much good === oleg is now known as Guest47487 [17:02]