[04:01] <ki7mt> Anyone know for certain if Python3 will be the default Python in the next release (14.10) ?
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:27] <penguin42> Hey BK
[12:42] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42
[14:50] <chrs-> hmm, i'm getting http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libgl1-mesa-dev_10.2.5-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb 404 not found
[14:51] <chrs-> the last time i ran ubunty my apt sources became clogged with iffy ppas
[14:52] <Daekdroom> chrs-, try updating the repo information (sudo apt-get update)
[14:53] <chrs-> running that now
[14:53] <Daekdroom> I think Ubuntu has Mesa 10.2.6 in the repos already and the older packages were deleted.
[14:53] <chrs-> i ran it a couple of days ago
[14:53] <chrs-> the update is slow because the wifi doesn't play nice with my apartments crappy ap
[14:53] <chrs-> but that will be fixed soon
[14:54] <Daekdroom> In a development versions, updates come at a very fast rate, so if you don't keep updating the repo information you'll eventually bump into missing files when trying to install something.
[14:54] <chrs-> Daekdroom: that's finally starting to sink in :)
[14:54] <chrs-> looks like you were right
[18:45] <tony_> I am currently experimenting with 14.10.
[18:46] <tony_> Anybody find new things about it?
[18:48] <ikonia> new things ?
[18:50] <SorenHolm> H
[18:51] <SorenHolm> tony_: well ... networkmanager does not automatically connect to networks .... besides that things are pretty neat for my use case.
[18:51] <tony_> for instance I have gotten chrome to run as well as the cairo dock to work pretty good.
[18:52] <tony_> Thats a plus to me since I am really computer illeterate.
[18:53] <ikonia> tony_: wih respect if you're not confident with computers, perhaps pre-release software is not a good thing to use
[18:53] <ikonia> a stable release with good support maybe a better choice
[18:54] <BluesKaj> SorenHolm, nm works well here on both ethernet and wifi and connect just fine
[18:54] <ikonia> BluesKaj: agreed
[18:54] <tony_> I have a acer netbook that I experiment with. My main computer is a desktop hp.
[18:55] <SorenHolm> BluesKaj: hmm .... I wonder why my system does not..... I have set it up to connect automatically.
[18:56] <tony_> BluesKaj does not what?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> wifi ?
[18:57] <tony_> could be in your settings.
[18:58] <SorenHolm> well ... nm does not connect to my wifi automatically event though I have set it up to do so.
[18:59] <tony_> I played around with mine for about a week before I finally set them right.
[18:59] <ikonia> SorenHolm: worth checking if it connects but doesn't get an address, or if it doesn't connect
[18:59] <ikonia> SorenHolm: also worth checking if you can manually connect it
[18:59] <SorenHolm> Hold you horses!!
[18:59] <SorenHolm> Hold your horses!!
[18:59] <ikonia> see if it's your card, or network manager using your card
[19:00] <SorenHolm> I can connect just fine manually. It just wont do it automatically.
[19:02] <tony_> Does anyone know if NVIDIA driver is a physical device needed to insert into computer to upgrade?
[19:02] <penguin42> know it's just software
[19:03] <BluesKaj> SorenHolm, try /usr/bin/nm-applet, click on it
[19:04] <SorenHolm> BluesKaj: I'm on kubuntu so I have the KDE-version running.
[19:04] <BluesKaj> SorenHolm, yes , same here
[19:07] <BluesKaj> ok , SorenHolm sorry, it's not there , but It was there when I lost the nm icon for some reason and I was able to connect using the applet, then after an upgrade the nm icon returned to the panel...strange
[19:12] <SorenHolm> BluesKaj: ok
[19:16] <BluesKaj> SorenHolm, have you checked the wrench by clicking the wifi icon (configure your wifi) then find your connection, edit and make sure connect automatically is checked in the general configuration tab
[19:17] <SorenHolm> BluesKaj: oh well..... I've just removed all my connections .... and now it actually seems to connect automatically.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> ??
[19:18] <BluesKaj> uhm, ok
[19:21] <SorenHolm> BluesKaj: actually I did try removing all connections a month ago ....
[19:23] <BluesKaj> the only connections that should be listed are connections previously used
[19:25] <BluesKaj> none of your neighbours etc in the config file , they shouild only show up when the nm icon is clicked
[19:27] <BluesKaj> if younuse a vpn service then the servers listed will be in the config file tho
[19:35] <andlabs> Hi. How do I PERMANENTLY UNSET kwalletaskpass as ssh-askpass in update-alternatives?
[19:36] <andlabs> I want to continue using the terminal to enter the password, not a GUI that blocks everything
[19:38] <andlabs> oh, I appear to have removed it but it still takes effect - do I need to log out and log back in?
[21:08] <eanyx> Hi
[21:09] <eanyx> Does any of you have tested ubuntu 14.10 ?
[21:10] <chrs-> what do you mean by "tested"?
[21:12] <eanyx> I want to know what is the integration status of xmir/mir in 14.10? And when it will be officialy released (xmir/mir).
[21:13] <eanyx> What are the main difference between X (legacy) and new Xmir / mir ?
[21:15] <chrs-> i tried mir (desktop-next) on my laptop from one of the daily images last week
[21:15] <chrs-> didn't work, couldn't log in
[21:16] <chrs-> so i went back to the "regular" ubuntu desktop unity de and it works fine
[21:20] <eanyx> so it's work in progress... What about the specs?
[21:22] <brainwash> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec
[21:23] <eanyx> I wanting to write game to Linux/Ubuntu, but actual rendering is poor. Does mir will provide better rendering (2D/3D animation)?
[21:23] <brainwash> you also join #ubuntu-mir and ask Mir related questions
[21:24] <brainwash> it shouldn't affect 3d performance
[21:24] <eanyx> brainwash: thank you
[21:24] <brainwash> oh, I meant "you can also join.."
[21:24] <brainwash> :)
[21:35] <eanyx> in 14.10 what are the main difference compared to 14.04 ?