[00:01] <cuddylier> I can;t find anything on google as a solution hmm
[00:03] <robert__> Is this the best place to ask questions about ubuntu on powerpc8
[00:07] <Anoniem4l> robert__ I bet it is
[00:13] <kuldud> hi
[00:13] <kuldud> I have some questions
[00:14] <kuldud> Is there someone that can i help me
[00:14] <kuldud> can help me
[00:14] <Beldar> kuldud, State the issues for help to the channel.
[00:15] <kuldud> I wanna set up ubuntu on HP dl380 g5 server : I want to use it as a file server, print server, and media server. Also I want to install four hdd sata3... Is this possible?
[00:16] <kuldud> Am i on the right track
[00:16] <Alanbitsch>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY alan
[00:17] <Alanbitsch> whoops
[00:17] <Alanbitsch> xd
[00:17] <kuldud> beldar?
[00:17] <Daekdroom> Alanbitsch, you might want to change your password now
[00:18] <kuldud> I wanna set up ubuntu on HP dl380 g5 server : I want to use it as a file server, print server, and media server. Also I want to install four hdd sata3... Is this possible?
[00:18] <kuldud> Help?
[00:18] <Beldar> kuldud, I did not say I would know, just that you have to state then issue. ;)
[00:18] <Beldar> kuldud, And have some patience this is free help. ;)
[00:18] <kuldud> ok
[00:19] <arleslie> kuldud: for the hardware, I do not know. If your server supports four hdd sata3s, then yes. As well, the services you wish to run are possible as well. Will Ubuntu run on a HP D1380 Q5 server, most likely, but I do not knwo forusre.
[00:20] <arleslie> r/forusre/for sure/
[00:22] <kuldud> Any ideas where i can check if ubuntu is compatible on a computer
[00:22] <Zakamiro_> The computer's specifications?
[00:23] <arleslie> kuldud: unfortantly, the only sure was would be to install it, running it via Live CD is usually fine. But you can get all the hardware information and search the wiki.
[00:23] <chokesmaster> kuldud, I know that Lenovo has a page where it list Linux compatibility of their product
[00:23] <chokesmaster> maybe other brand has this too
[00:24] <ryguy_> kuldud: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200810-1117/ <-- I think it would work.
[00:24] <kuldud> I havent bought the computer yet. Before I invest this computer is about 7 years old and im not sure it would work.
[00:24] <arleslie> kuldud: Your server is listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServersHp --- It does say it is supposed as off Ubuntu 4.10
[00:24] <kuldud> ok thank you guys
[00:25] <Alanbitsch> why cant i use Eric?
[00:25] <Alanbitsch> (IDE)
[00:28] <Beldar> Alanbitsch, Which ubuntu release?
[00:29] <Beldar> I see a 3rd party up to 13.10
[00:31] <Beldar> !info eric
[00:31] <Beldar> Alanbitsch, In the repos.
[00:31] <Tex_Nick> Alanbitsch: if you don't get an answer here ... you might try #python
[00:32] <Guma> I have ARM board with kernel image on it but it does not have cdc_acm module. I got the source. When I run make menuconfig, Select module, make M=devices/usb/class it builds cdc_acm.o but I do not se ko file
[00:33] <physixer> on 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' I'm offered to autoremove the package aglfn, and install a NEW package aglfn. I removed it with autoremove previously. If I dist-upgrade, it offers to autoremove again. If I autoremove it, it offers in the dist-upgrade again. Help!
[00:42] <jorge> how do I setup apparmor?
[00:43] <Guest60343> physixer: have you tried apt-get install aglfn ? i will install and set it selected. apt wont uninstall it
[00:43] <physixer> Guest60343: no I haven't but I don't know if I need it or not. Once I install it, I can decide after that?
[00:45] <physixer> ok I installed it, then I removed it. Now dist-upgrade offers to autoremove and install it again :(
[00:45] <sajan> wafflejock,
[00:48] <OerHeks> !info aglfn
[00:49] <Guest60343> physixer: do you use gnuplot or texlive-full ?
[00:50] <physixer> I removed texlive. But I have gnuplot installed. FWIW, it mentions that it kept back 2 packages, gnuplot-nox and gnuplot-x11
[00:51] <OerHeks>  Dingbats font http://sourceforge.net/adobe/aglfn/wiki/Home/
[00:51] <Guma> How do I go about building cdc_acm.ko
[00:53] <jorge> how do I use apparmor?
[00:54] <Beldar> Guma, I see very little and all rather old on the web.
[00:54] <Guest60343> physixer: aglfn is a dep of gnuplot so if you dont want it, you will have to remove gnuplot
[00:55] <foo> I have php5-fpm setup on ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS but for some reason I'm getting 500 error with this. Been on this for over 30 minutes and cannot figure it out. Getting this in error log: (111)Connection refused: FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi": connect() failed - that file doesn't exist. Should it? I followed several guides that all said the same thing. Hmm.
[00:55] <Guma> Beldar: ???
[00:55] <Beldar> !apparmor
[00:57] <physixer> Guest60343: ok I get it. I installed aglfn and now dist-upgrade looks fixed. Thanks.
[00:58] <Beldar> Guma, You might try ##linux if you are registered with freenode, not really a ubuntu support issue per-say, and seems rather a small use community probably.
[01:01] <Beldar> jorge, man apparmor or  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[01:01] <jorge> that community help page doesn't help Beldar
[01:02] <Beldar> jorge, So?
[01:02] <Beldar> if you need your hand held youmay wait awhile
[01:03] <Beldar> All you need is there or in links
[01:03] <Beldar> as well the man apparmor
[01:04] <jorge> aa-genprof doesn't work
[01:04] <sadhash> I botched my installation by deleting /home/ as root. I torrented a 14.04 iso and checked the md5. I used dd to change 2 pendrives I just bought today and when I reboot, the bios says "isolinux.bin is corrupt or missing" I've google, read the wiki, and no luck.
[01:04] <drewjo> sadhash, deleting home is fine
[01:04] <sadhash> Any ideas welcome. Oh, the problem with deleting /home/ is that I can't lgin
[01:05] <Beldar> sadhash, try with no password
[01:05] <sadhash> You say that drew but logging into my account, the desktop doesn't load. Password is accepted
[01:05] <sadhash> No pw? Okay
[01:05] <sadhash> Note, I know this isn't the right chanel but I was trying xubuntu
[01:06] <sadhash> I'll try now tho
[01:06] <drewjo> heathen!
[01:06] <drewjo> heretic!
[01:06] <sadhash> Roflmao
[01:06] <drewjo> Unity is life
[01:06] <sadhash> I am not a fan of unity I'm sorry
[01:06] <drewjo> Unity is love
[01:06] <sadhash> Rofl
[01:07] <sadhash> Didn't work
[01:07] <sadhash> Also, I had just tried ecrypt on..
[01:07] <Beldar> sadhash, You get in but no desktop right?
[01:07] <carbon_> does anyone know if the 12.04 ubuntu release has a built in system restore? or is it all third party backup programs?
[01:08] <sadhash> I can take pictures
[01:08] <sadhash> But it accepts my root password
[01:08] <Beldar> carbon_, What is your definition of restore?
[01:08] <sadhash> Then nothing. X doesn't start
[01:08] <expunge> carbon_: the media you used to install with is the same as any system restore
[01:08] <Beldar> sadhash, root password?
[01:08] <carbon_> restoring to an earlier state of the system before an attempted os upgrade
[01:08] <Beldar> carbon_, No ubuntu has that.
[01:08] <Beldar> that is windows
[01:08] <sadhash> Belmar, I use the same login and password as I had before, the same pw I use for root.
[01:09] <carbon_> i thought as much
[01:09] <physixer> what's the equivalent for "aptitude search -F ..." without aptitude?
[01:09] <carbon_> i'm grasping at straws
[01:09] <sadhash> Beldar **
[01:09] <Beldar> sadhash, the user password, not root password, there is no root password.
[01:09] <sadhash> Oh.. For su?
[01:09] <carbon_> my relatives computer failed an os upgrade and i don't have much experience with the ubuntu platform
[01:10] <Beldar> !root | sadhash this explains it, it is a word syntax issue here.
[01:10] <physixer> I replaced 'aptitude' in a script with 'apt-get' or 'apt-cache', both don't work: "Command line option 'F' [from -F] is not known."
[01:10] <sadhash> I didn't know that sorry I'm a recent convert. I can manage most of these ubuntu utilities now but half of what I'm doing is luck
[01:10] <kirmair> q loucura!!
[01:11] <Beldar> carbon_, It is there OS they should have the skills, don't be stressed on their mistakes. ;)
[01:12] <carbon_> it's my grandpa, my uncle got him a linux box (why!?!) and now I need to figure out how to fix the problem
[01:12] <carbon_> i don't have much info so....
[01:12] <sadhash> Beldar, I want to show you what happens. Want me to link pics here?
[01:12] <carbon_> guess i'll try talking to my grandpa again and see if I can figure out the issue he's having
[01:12] <Beldar> sadhash, I doubt I can really help on this.
[01:12] <foo> Trying to set up php5-fpm. I followed this: http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts - I did everything, twice, and double checked things from multiple sources. Yet still, I have issues. I'm getting a 500 error with this in logs: [fastcgi:error] [pid 1820:tid 139704993302272] (111)Connection refused: FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi": connect() failed... followed by: FastCGI: incomplete headers (0 
[01:13] <carbon_> thanks for letting me know there is no built in restore though
[01:13] <netlar> Is there a way to keep Conky from hiding when you hide all windows?
[01:13] <foo> Whoops, excuse the repaste:
[01:13] <foo> Trying to set up php5-fpm. I followed this: http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts - I did everything, twice, and double checked things from multiple sources. Yet still, I have issues. I'm getting a 500 error with this in logs: [fastcgi:error] [pid 1820:tid 139704993302272] (111)Connection refused: FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi": connect() failed... followed by: FastCGI: incomplete ...
[01:13] <sadhash> Ok. Guess I'm off to go buy a windows laptop. Sigh.
[01:13] <foo> ... headers (0 bytes) received from server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi" ... any two cents on what I could have wrong? Doesn't make sense.
[01:13] <Beldar> Windows 8 is nice
[01:14] <carbon_> night, or morning, all
[01:14] <netlar> Beldar: Windows 8 is horrible
[01:14] <LostNva> I think he was kidding about windows 8 lol
[01:14] <RoDiMuS-X> Any recommendations on an application to rotate my background every so often Ubuntu 14.04
[01:14]  * Beldar rolls their eyes
[01:15] <netlar> RoDiMuS-X: Wallch
[01:15] <RoDiMuS-X> Thanks netlar
[01:16] <sadhash> I detest windows but they don't sell linux laptops at Walmart
[01:16] <expunge> sadhash: they do actually
[01:17] <nectarys> hi, what's the shortcut to make a search on vim, please?
[01:17] <sadhash> Chromebook doesn't count. That's basically what I'm using.
[01:17] <expunge> nectarys: /foo
[01:17] <expunge> sadhash: sure it does
[01:17] <Beldar> the fan boi count goes up by 2
[01:17] <sadhash> Expunge: I'm on a chromebox right now.
[01:18] <expunge> sadhash: that's nice
[01:18] <sadhash> That's what I can't get working correctly with a full linux distro
[01:18] <nectarys> expunge, thank you !
[01:18] <expunge> sadhash: what doesn't work?
[01:18] <expunge> nectarys: more at #vim
[01:19] <sadhash> Long story short I can't get any gui up and running
[01:19] <sadhash> I'm able to access the command line via ctrl alt f1
[01:19] <sadhash> I get as close as a login screen from gnome but it's not working. At all.
[01:20] <expunge> sadhash: how doesn't it work?
[01:20] <anarkhos> sadhash: any error messages?
[01:20] <sadhash> No error messages.
[01:21] <sadhash> I get to the login screen, type my password and it accepts it then blank
[01:21] <sadhash> Just a grey screen.
[01:21] <expunge> sadhash: black screen?
[01:21] <expunge> gray
[01:21] <sadhash> Not black
[01:21] <expunge> sadhash: no cursor?
[01:21] <laughingtiger> sadhash, reinstall your video driver
[01:21] <sadhash> The mouse icon resembles a cursor
[01:22] <expunge> sadhash: any particular shape?
[01:22] <sadhash> Capital I in times new roman
[01:22] <expunge> can you right click?
[01:22] <sadhash> No. Nothing happens
[01:22]  * laughingtiger slaps himself
[01:23] <expunge> sadhash: what's the graphics device?
[01:23] <sadhash> Intel
[01:23] <sadhash> Haswell architecture integrated
[01:23] <Beldar> mmm the noob trinity
[01:23] <anarkhos> sadhash: when you're at the command-line, type "dmesg" and see if you can find any relevant errors
[01:24] <sadhash> Oh good lord. How do I scroll up?
[01:24] <Beldar> larry moe and curly
[01:24] <expunge> sadhash: PGUP/SHIFT+PGUP
[01:24] <anarkhos> sadhash:  dmesg | less
[01:26] <sadhash> Acpi error
[01:27] <sadhash> Get block - 32-bit FADT register is too long to convert to GAS structure - 255 bits max, truncating
[01:29] <sadhash> expunge, anarkhos: googling that error, struggling
[01:29] <anarkhos> hmm
[01:29] <anarkhos> is that the only one?
[01:29] <anarkhos> i imagine there are more
[01:29] <laughingtiger> idiot
[01:30] <sadhash> That's the only one under dmesg | less
[01:30] <anarkhos> ok...
[01:30] <anarkhos> what exactly are you running, and how?
[01:31] <anarkhos> some ubuntu on live-usb?
[01:31] <sadhash> No
[01:31] <sadhash> Xubuntu 14.04.1 I don't remember if I installed upstream kernel u
[01:31] <sadhash> Or not
[01:32] <sadhash> On a solid state drive.
[01:32] <sadhash> Asus chromebox m400u, running xubuntu 14.04.1
[01:33] <laughingtiger> so much idiots and morons douchebags these days, the world must has been fucked.
[01:34] <sadhash> Through the command line I've managed to create a liveusb but my bios is telling me that "isolinux.bin cannot be found or is corrupted. " I checked the md5sum and everything was fine
[01:34] <sadhash> I created the liveusb by using dd on the xubuntu 14.04.1 iso I have
[01:35] <samthewildone> How do I enable my bluetooth ?
[01:36] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.com/eePni0RA
[01:37] <samthewildone> !bluetooth
[01:37] <sadhash> Anarkhos, any ideas?
[01:38] <anarkhos> sadhash: im not familiar with creating live usbs in a linux environment. but back to the gnome problem: would you be able to reboot and choose some safe/recovery mode? vesa drivers?
[01:39] <rypervenche> laughingtiger: Please watch your language. We are not here to belittle people.
[01:39] <raleigh> hi
[01:39] <anarkhos> sadhash: see whether it's possible to at least get some very basic manifestation running
[01:39] <sadhash> I can only get command line
[01:39] <raleigh> i would like to run nginx with sudo without a password prompt... how do i do that?
[01:39] <raleigh> i have %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL)PASSWD:ALL,NOPASSWD:/usr/local/openresty/nginx/sbin/nginx in my sudoers file
[01:40] <laughingtiger> thank you for the tip rypervenche
[01:40] <raleigh> which works when i use the absolute path to run nginx
[01:40] <raleigh> ...but it still prompts for a password otherwise
[01:40] <rypervenche> laughingtiger: 不客氣
[01:40] <laughingtiger> rypervenche: lol
[01:41]  * laughingtiger shakes hands with rypervenche
[01:42] <anarkhos> sadhash: have you tried including for instance "xforcevesa" in the kernel boot command?
[01:42] <sadhash> No. I'm. Kernel boot command is located where?
[01:42] <Guma> I installed 14.04 desktop and only one out of four monotors is detected. I have two dual head nvidia cards. Any one know how to fix this. It used to work under 12.04
[01:43] <wafflejock> raleigh: are you sure you want to be running nginx as an admin
[01:43] <nectarys> how to log into ##channels, please ?
[01:43] <wafflejock> nectarys:  forward slash then channel name
[01:43] <wafflejock> nectarys: rather /join #channelname
[01:43] <raleigh> wafflejock, well i would be ok doing it not as admin if i could use port 80 that way
[01:44] <nectarys> wafflejock, I'm trying to /join  ##channelname, with two '#' but it wouldn't work
[01:44] <anarkhos> sadhash: /boot/grub probably, but you may be able to temprarily edit the boot code from the xubuntu screen you get before the os is really started
[01:44] <wafflejock> raleigh: yeah I think you use the service app to start and stop nginx as sudo but typically with apache (start and stop the service the same way) it runs as a different user so you can restrict privileges of the server
[01:44] <nectarys> wafflejock, I can join it, but I cannot post into it
[01:44] <anarkhos> sadhash: im not familiar with how exactly xubuntu is, but when you power on the computer, do you get a menu?
[01:45] <nectarys> wafflejock, I think that I need to log into
[01:45] <wafflejock> nectarys: yeah some of the IRC chats require that you're logged in and have a registered nick
[01:45] <anarkhos> sadhash: a menu with alternatives (F1 for help, ...F4 for modes etc.)?
[01:45] <nectarys> wafflejock, how to deal with that, please ?
[01:45] <wafflejock> nectarys: typically there are some instructions in the chat when you try to join explaining how to register, but I'm no IRC expert
[01:46] <rh1n0> Norman, OK, US: Fair, 88ºF Humidity: 40% Visibility: 6 mi Pressure: 29.88 in Wind: North-northeast @ 10 mph
[01:46] <sadhash> I can get grub open
[01:46] <JWommack> nectarys /msg Nickserv help register
[01:46] <nectarys> wafflejock, okay thank you
[01:46] <sadhash> But yes
[01:46] <rh1n0> "hello"
[01:47] <sl1nky> http://www.oliverio.eti.br/
[01:48] <wafflejock> raleigh: this may help https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-nginx-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[01:48] <sadhash> Anarkhos: I'm going to run one of the scanning utilities from recovery mode, then I'll come back
[01:48] <anarkhos> sadhash: "<sadhash> I can get grub open" - you're able to edit the boot command before xubuntu is loaded?
[01:49] <anarkhos> ok
[01:49] <sadhash> I should be able to but I'm not very familiar with vi
[01:49] <sadhash> It's offering to run fsck so I'm letting that go
[01:50] <wafflejock> Guma: have you checked the display settings also you may want to check what graphics card and drivers are installed with, lspci -k
[01:50] <wafflejock> sadhash: nano I think has a simpler learning curve since there's no modes it's more like a regular notepad app
[01:50] <raleigh> wafflejock, well i'm using openresty not stock nginx
[01:50] <sadhash> Okay I will try nano
[01:50] <JWommack> gedit even more so
[01:50] <wafflejock> sadhash: the commands in nano are shown on the bottom of the screen, Ctrl+O to write it out and Ctrl+X to close
[01:51] <sadhash> Oh nice
[01:51] <raleigh> wafflejock, so there isn't an init.d script for nginx
[01:51] <wafflejock> raleigh: hmm not familiar with that
[01:51] <raleigh> yeah it's apparently kind of obscrure
[01:52] <wafflejock> raleigh: just a test local server right?
[01:52] <rypervenche> raleigh: It's just a bundle of most of the 3rd party modules and nginx. It IS nginx, but just with everything compiled in.
[01:52] <wafflejock> raleigh: if it's a production/live server I would be more cautious for sure about running the server as root/admin
[01:53] <rypervenche> raleigh: Also, unless you need all of those modules and are expecting 10,000+ connections, I would stick with nginx.
[01:54] <raleigh> i need those modules
[01:54] <raleigh> and i need admin to be on port 80
[01:54] <raleigh> correct?
[01:54] <raleigh> i have it working on 8080
[01:54] <jcbjoe> how is ubuntu on a laptop and does it get good batery life ?
[01:55] <mguy> jcbjoe: I have good luck with them on Lenovo
[01:55] <anarkhos> it seemed good on a laptop earlier tonight, but i didn't test it for very long
[01:55] <JWommack> Better if you don't use chrome
[01:55] <sadhash> I will tell you later tonight. If I can get a laptop without uefi
[01:55] <jcbjoe> mguy: how much battery time ?
[01:55] <jcbjoe> sadhash: yea lol
[01:55] <wafflejock> raleigh: shouldn't need admin to use port 80 apache runs as the www-data user and binds to 80
[01:55] <mguy> jcbjoe: 4-5 hours but my battery isn't the extended one
[01:55] <jcbjoe> sadhash: most are windows 8 now days
[01:56] <Guma> wafflejock: what should I look for and how can I change it
[01:56] <wafflejock> Guma: I'm running Ubuntu Gnome so I can't guide you directly but wondering what you see when you check out the display settings, does it show you just the one monitor?
[01:56] <JWommack> You can disable the uefi sadhash, it's what I did on my work laptop and I have it running 8 and 14.04
[01:56] <JWommack> windows 8 that is
[01:56] <Guma> wafflejock: yes
[01:57] <sadhash> Oh
[01:57] <wafflejock> Guma: if you use the lspci -k command in the command line look for VGA to see your graphics card info
[01:57] <Guma> I am running unity. Jsut default install
[01:57] <jcbjoe> JWommack: battery time ?
[01:57] <Guma> But I did install NVidia prop drivers from panel
[01:57] <sadhash> Jwommack: thanks.
[01:57] <wafflejock> Guma: k that helps to know, hit the dash/winkey button and type terminal, then lspci -k
[01:57] <JWommack> Battery time isn't bad, the biggest thing that changes battery time though is what you're using and that's the case in either OS
[01:57] <wafflejock> Guma: that'll list all your main hardware components with the kernel driver that's loaded for it
[01:57] <drewjo> do you guys write programs in ubuntu
[01:57] <wafflejock> drewjo: I do web dev
[01:58] <wafflejock> drewjo: occasionally I poke at some of the source of built in stuff
[01:58] <drewjo> ok
[01:58] <JWommack> Chrome, for example, currently has a bug that eats through batter life, which is a pain since it's the best to develop frontends in
[01:58] <wafflejock> drewjo: would like to start contributing back eventually
[01:58] <wafflejock> turns out Gnome themes use CSS
[01:58] <drewjo> cool
[01:58] <wafflejock> so I can easily jump in there but they are already pretty nice IMO :)
[01:59] <Guma> wafflejock: Ok I did grep for nvidia and I see two cards
[01:59] <Guma> GForce GT 610
[02:00] <wafflejock> Guma: okay so there is the option of open source drivers and closed source drivers with NVidia stuff, generally it's recommended to stick with the open source stuff since you get updated automatically and it's tested by repo maintainers but we should see what you have now and go from there
[02:00] <wafflejock> Guma: can you actuall pastebin the output of the lcpci command?
[02:01] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: this isn't really as dependent on the OS as it is the hardware you have
[02:01] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: backlights eat a lot of power and depends on your CPU
[02:01] <Guma> wafflejock: yes. One sec
[02:02] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: lower speed CPUs tend to use less Watts too and so it really varies a lot based on what you're doing and what you have
[02:02] <Cordel> Guys, I installed VMware tools on UBuntu..... How the hell do I open the control panel to use it?
[02:02] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: seems like on my laptop I get close to the same time or a little more in Ubuntu compared to Windows but like I said it's hard to say cause it depends on how you're using it
[02:02] <timevirus> yo
[02:03] <Cordel> Anyone know how to use VMware tools on Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Guma> wafflejock: pastebin.com/dJtsBXCR
[02:03] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: check out powertop if you're interested in what is taking power top
[02:03] <TimeVIrus> .
[02:04] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: powertop*
[02:04] <wafflejock> Guma: dual 610 SLI card?
[02:04] <Beldar> Cordel, they do in #vmware
[02:05] <Guma> It is dual. But they are not connected.
[02:05] <Guma> Well I do not think so
[02:05] <Guma> Would that matter?
[02:05] <Guma> let me see if SLI is connected
[02:05] <rypervenche> wafflejock: By the way, Apache needs root privileges to be able to work on port 80, the main Apache process is run as root.
[02:06] <wafflejock> Guma: yeah for SLI they split the load of rendering the screen between the two cards but needs that bridge part to keep them in sync I think, not sure that it matters regarding the extra displays showing up though
[02:06] <Guma> wafflejock: nop. I do not think they support SLI. They are fanless and no SLI connected cable between them
[02:06] <Guma> I just opened the box
[02:07] <wafflejock> rypervenche: hmm strange I didn't know that, thought since the owner of www folder or execute bit privileges were related to the www-data user and the processes I noticed from apache were running as www-data that none of it was actually running as root
[02:08] <raleigh> i think it's pretty normal to use sudo to run http servers?
[02:08] <rypervenche> wafflejock: The main apache process is run as root, its other processes are run as www-data though. But yeah.
[02:08] <raleigh> if there is no init.d script
[02:10] <jcbjoe> wafflejock: ever with powertop do you still get the same time ? cause i heard powertop disables things that are killing your battery
[02:11] <uhhh> wafflejock: hey, r8168-dkms did the trick, no d/c's yet
[02:11] <uhhh> \o/
[02:11] <wafflejock> rypervenche: ah indeed interesting I just never noticed that other process running as root
[02:11] <wafflejock> uhhh: awesome glad to hear it
[02:11] <Cordel> Can someone please tell me how to run VMWare tools in Ubuntu
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !vmware
[02:12] <Guma> wafflejock: Can they be in SLI with out SLI cable between them?
[02:12] <Cordel> I installed the damn thing I just need to know how to run it
[02:13] <sajan> wafflejock,
[02:13] <wafflejock> Guma: don't think so but I only have one GTX630 in my desktop... only use it for gaming here or there though, my laptop has Intel HD 4000 which is so so
[02:13] <wafflejock> sajan: hey got some food in me now
[02:13] <wafflejock> Guma: did you use lspci -k
[02:13] <wafflejock> with the -k on that pastebin
[02:13] <wafflejock> didn't notice the actual driver loaded there think it might have been left off
[02:13] <cfhowlett> Cordel, as it's neither ubuntu nor FOSS, I suggest you seek support directly from vmware.
[02:13] <Guma> wafflejock: paste bin is with -k
[02:14] <wafflejock> Guma: oh sorry I just overlooked them somehow just pulled it back up
[02:16] <wafflejock> Guma: alright so it looks like you have the regular nvidia driver built into the kernel you can try the nouveau driver if you'd like (I think this is the recommended way I've seen from others in the chat here for Nvidia stuff) or there's some other instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451221/ubuntu-14-04-install-nvidia-driver
[02:17] <wafflejock> Guma: you may want to check out nomodeset option you can use during boot in case something goes wrong while you're trying out possible fixes for the graphics drivers
[02:18] <wafflejock> !nomodeset > Guma
[02:19] <wafflejock> Guma: also if none of the open source stuff that you'll get automatic updates on works you can manually install from the nvidia site but at that point it's out of the open source community hands to help with really http://www.geforce.com/drivers
[02:19] <Basketball> CAN YOU install uefi on a bios based computer  and if so what are the advantages
[02:20] <drewjo> Basketball, you can't install uefi
[02:20] <drewjo> uefi comes with your motherboard or it doesn't
[02:20] <drewjo> you can't add it later
[02:20] <Basketball> drewjo,  ok then can i add scheduled boot to computer if it isnt an option in bios
[02:21] <drewjo> don't think so unless you update your bios
[02:21] <Basketball> drewjo,  i have the latest bios for my laptop from hp
[02:21] <Guma> wafflejock: TX
[02:21] <wafflejock> Guma: np good luck sounds like a nice setup when it's working, I've got a lowly 2 monitors :)
[02:21] <Guma> wafflejock: I am running nvidia now. I might do the other and switch to opensource
[02:23] <wafflejock> Guma: oh that's actually the proprietary driver right now? thought it would have the version number in there figured that was just the vanilla included module
[02:24] <Basketball> it is a hp dv6243cl drewjo
[02:24] <triplc> hi all
[02:25] <triplc>  please recommend an encryption (like truecrypt, which is unmaintained now) which work in both Ubuntu and Windoze?
[02:25] <Neurome> could anybody possible help me out
[02:26] <Cordel> no wonder people dont use ubuntu
[02:26] <Neurome> im trying to get streamtuner2 , or streamripstar working in ubuntu
[02:26] <Cordel> can not get a simple question answered
[02:27] <kostkon> Neurome, what's the problem exactly
[02:27] <mish> Cordel: http://constantmayhem.com/ty-stuff/linuxsurvey/2013/Primary%20Non-server%20Distros%20Percent.png
[02:28] <TimeVIrus> I'm trying to remember a command xdg-open to 'ask' the file manager to open a file using default program is xdg-open the right command?
[02:28] <kostkon> TimeVIrus, yes
[02:28] <Neurome> Kostkon, well i have mint on another box, Linux mint, and streamripstar works great for playing, and recording on that box, i got a .jar version of it on this ubuntu box im currently on, even though i installed java jdk, streamripper and gstreamer its not funtioning
[02:28] <TimeVIrus> thanks
[02:29] <x_root> hello, ubuntu do any log when starts a session?
[02:29] <x_root> or i have to "force" it to do? like..
[02:30] <Basketball> drewjo,
[02:30] <x_root> after a few uses of gnome, when i tried to use unity the wallpaper was not loading..
[02:30] <wafflejock> Cordel: software support for closed systems can expect to be supported by the community that's all
[02:30] <wafflejock> can't*
[02:31] <kostkon> Neurome, are you getting any error messages, when you run it, e.g.   java -jar app_name.jar
[02:31] <Basketball> kostkon,  do you know
[02:31] <x_root> after i change from lightdm to gdm "nothing" load.. (the programs open, and i can see the environment and all.. but no unity, no dock/dash, no systray... nothing.. jsut the programs, the top bar of the program and "all the black" behind it..)
[02:31] <kostkon> x_root, .xsession-errors is one
[02:31] <kostkon> x_root, other logs in /var/log
[02:32] <kostkon> Basketball, know what
[02:32] <x_root> kostkon, i'll try to read now (to see if i can find the last unity session).. thanks :)
[02:32] <Basketball> kostkon,  how do i schedule boot and shutdown if there is not a bios option i have a hp dv6243cl
[02:33] <kostkon> Basketball, you mean something like wol? wake on lan?
[02:33] <wafflejock> ^ that's the only thing I could think of too but gets more complicated
[02:33] <wafflejock> need another machine running that can send the wakeup signal
[02:34] <kostkon> wafflejock, yeah
[02:34] <kostkon> wafflejock, actually, i think there's another way
[02:35] <kostkon> wafflejock, something to do with acpi
[02:36] <nectarys> how to track ip addresses on linux ?
[02:36] <wafflejock> this is pretty nifty https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.benfinnigan.wol&hl=en doesn't seem to have a scheduler though
[02:36] <wafflejock> nectarys: you want the LAN ip info?
[02:36] <Neurome> Kostkon, Yes well i tried running it two ways, through the CLI and the GUI, StreamRipStar-0.6.8.jar, right click 'open with OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime' then i get : ERROR "It seems you don't have gstreamer installed. Please install the latest gstreamer or use an extern player to listen to the stream Error looking up function 'gst_date_get_type': /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstreamer-1.0.so:...
[02:36] <Neurome> ...undefined symbol: gst_date_get_type"
[02:36] <kostkon> wafflejock, rtc_wakeup
[02:37] <wafflejock> kostkon: cool never heard of that
[02:38] <rypervenche> nectarys: tcpdump always works well. Where do you want to track it from? Is it a web server connection or something like that?
[02:40] <wafflejock> Neurome: have you installed gstreamer from the software center or otherwise?
[02:42] <kostkon> Neurome, are you on a 64bit installation?
[02:42] <Neurome> Kostkon, I get the error either way through (CLI & GUI) i then manually set under the preferences in streamripstar to where i found the gstreamer player after doing a quick search '/usr/share/doc' 'libgstreamer-1.0 ...The error goes away but then i get another error
[02:43] <Neurome> yes i installed streamripper and gstreamer
[02:43] <kostkon> Basketball, you could try this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/wakeup/
[02:43] <kostkon> Neurome, you could try installing the 32bit gstreamer libs
[02:44] <Cordel> anyone here use VMware tools?
[02:44] <Cordel> Anyone?
[02:44] <kostkon> Neurome, something along the lines of  sudo apt-get install package_name:i386
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Neurome, I'd suggest you install *all* the available multimedia codecs: sudo apt-get install #ubuntu
[02:44] <ecksit> hey, does anyone have any experience with ubuntu and ufw?
[02:45] <ecksit> i have added a rule using ansbible but my other machine cannot connect to it/
[02:45] <Guest89962> oi gente!!!
[02:46] <Neurome> kostkon, im running ubuntu 14.04 LTS, 32 bit version
[02:46] <ecksit> this is my ufw setup - https://gist.github.com/jacobbednarz/cac79f357594afb1b78c
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !ufw | ecksit,
[02:47] <kostkon> Neurome, oh then probably that app is looking for gstreamer 0.10 instead of 1.x
[02:47] <Neurome> i installed both version
[02:47] <Neurome> i believe
[02:47] <Cordel> Guys, WHy does Ubuntu video lag when installed on a virtual machine?
[02:47] <kostkon> Neurome, hmm
[02:47] <wafflejock> Cordel: you install the virtual box drivers/extensions?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> Neurome, I'd suggest getting all the available multimedia codecs.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras                    for good measure, install vlcplayer as well
[02:47] <Cordel> no what is that?
[02:48] <Neurome> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer-tools gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[02:48] <cfhowlett> Cordel, because the virtual gpu is not the native/physical gpu
[02:48] <Neurome> from the official ppa
[02:48] <Cordel> what Specifically do I need to download?
[02:48] <Neurome> & i also have vlcplayer
[02:48] <wafflejock> Cordel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms
[02:49] <wafflejock> Cordel: I did a video here on setting up an environment from scratch around 15:00 in I install the virtualbox guest extensions to fix the video integration and performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA
[02:49] <wafflejock> Cordel: should just be that command though
[02:50] <Cordel> i am running it now
[02:51] <Cordel> What do I need to do after It is ran?
[02:51] <wafflejock> Cordel: just reboot the virtual machine, in the video I shut it down and tweaked the settings to give it more video ram to work with too
[02:52] <ecksit> cfhowlett: i've checked that out and the rule appears to be working but it just doesn't allow the connection
[02:52] <kostkon> Neurome, what's the error yo uare getting now
[02:52] <bluefox83> i can't boot directly into any ubuntu kernel available in 14.04. I have to boot into an old kernel version, via the repair feature, then tell it to resume...
[02:52] <ecksit> cfhowlett: could it be due to having multiple rules and conflicting?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> ecksit, *NOT* an expert or especially knowledgeable but yes, check those rules for conflicts.  Also, could you have a router block?
[02:53] <bluefox83> i didn't have that problem a week ago...although i've had problems with 14.04 kernels before
[02:53] <ecksit> cfhowlett: don't think i have a router block as it previously worked.
[02:54] <cfhowlett> ecksit, good.  confirm your rules then.  be aware of any wildcard settings, e.g. twit*
[02:56] <Beldar> bluefox83, Any broken or held packages in apt-get updates or upgrades?
[02:56] <bluefox83> Beldar: let me check real fast
[02:57] <kostkon> bluefox83, is it a laptop
[02:57] <bluefox83> Beldar: yeah, i'm updating now
[02:57] <bluefox83> kostkon: yep
[02:58] <bluefox83> samsung laptop, and google doesn't have anything newer about a similar problem since march D:
[02:58] <kostkon> bluefox83, try turning it off, not suspending and then obvisouly turn it back on after waiting for a couple of mins
[02:58] <bluefox83> kostkon: er...i am actually using right now
[02:58] <Neurome> kostkon, when i manually set gstreamer1.0 folder most similar to what i received in the error, upon opening i don't get a gstreamer error when setting the customized location but with version 0.10 no error , not playing nothing
[02:58] <bluefox83> i just had to go through the repair feature, then click the resume option
[02:59] <kostkon> bluefox83, yeah. i mean instead of rebooting, i'm assuming that was going to be your next step, turn it off instead
[02:59] <bluefox83> kostkon: my power button doesn't reboot, it's just on and off...i've turned it off several times
[03:00] <kostkon> bluefox83, oh ok then
[03:00] <bluefox83> i have to boot into a 3.8 kernel because the 3.11 ones don't work :/
[03:00] <bluefox83> they just hang at the loading ramdisk or whatever
[03:00] <bluefox83> loading initial ramdisk
[03:01] <bluefox83> and googling that is completely useless
[03:01] <Neurome> is there somehow a way to build an ubuntu installer off my linux mint box
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !customization | Neurome
[03:02] <bluefox83> all it does is bring up the same junk about how using efi can brick a samsung laptop4
[03:03] <Beldar> bluefox83, 3.13 is the latest 14.04 kernels, try running sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    copy and paste the whole command
[03:03] <cfhowlett> !uck | Neurome
[03:04] <netlar> Are there any big issues with installing 14.04 on a MacBook Pro?
[03:04] <ki7mt> netlar, Here's a good resource page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:05] <Neurome> cfhowlett, wouldn't i need to reinstall the whole os ?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> Neurome, never used it, but as I understand it, at some you extract your installed OS, i.e. no need to reinstall
[03:06] <bluefox83> Beldar: apparently 3.13 is already installed and is among the broken kernels :(
[03:06] <cfhowlett> !mac | netlar
[03:06] <Neurome> netlar, you could get a usb or live cd and boot off the live cd to do a test run on your mac book pro
[03:06] <Beldar> bluefox83, Do you have a boot partition?
[03:07] <bluefox83> Beldar: /boot/efi
[03:07] <Guma> wafflejock: switching to software enable another monitor. I see three in display panel. but when enabling third I get error.
[03:07] <wafflejock> Guma: CRTC something error ?
[03:07] <Beldar> bluefox83, Can you pastebin the running of sudo apt-get -f install
[03:07] <Guma> Also n reboot Before I get to desktop I see error
[03:07] <bluefox83> Beldar: when i run "mount" it spits out a /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat
[03:07] <Guma> Could not switch the monitor configuration
[03:08] <Guma> "could nit se the configuration for CRTC 63
[03:08] <wafflejock> Guma: hmm interesting I get that with a third monitor too but was a problem in 12.04 too, think KDE dodged this error but still wouldn't let me use 3 monitors
[03:08] <bluefox83> Beldar: it just says there are some generic linux headers that are no longer needed
[03:08] <wafflejock> Guma: I figured it was just a Intel chipset/driver issue but maybe somewhere else in the system
[03:09] <wafflejock> Guma: think I get CTRC 65 error or something related
[03:09] <Guma> I am ctually thinking about installing Xubuntu with xFCE. So this would be same problem?
[03:09] <Vampire-Bill> ok virtual box no go for the last two hours 14.04 it will not let me install os in just keeps going back to install screen
[03:09] <Beldar> bluefox83, Is you definition of broken is they don;t work or from the terminal?
[03:09] <wafflejock> Guma: not sure really I only really use the 2 desktop monitors anyhow so having the third disabled isn't a problem for me but not sure what the underlying issue is
[03:10] <netlar> Neurome: thanks
[03:10] <cfhowlett> Guma, easy enough to test:  sudo apt-get install xfce4             logout/choose xfce session/login
[03:10] <cfhowlett> Guma, if you like that sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for the full meal deal and clean-up with !purexubuntu
[03:11] <Beldar> bluefox83, Broken has a specific meaning in other words, the terminal will say this, just trying to get on the same page.
[03:11] <bluefox83> Beldar: what do you mean?
[03:12] <Neurome> netlar, ~Por Nada~ !
[03:12] <bluefox83> Beldar: what i mean by broken kernels is they wont boot past "loading initial ramdisk"
[03:12] <bluefox83> Beldar: even in recovery
[03:12] <Bashing-om> !purelubuntu | Guma
[03:13] <Dr_Kabuki> Anyone know of an ubuntu based distro that uses openbox?
[03:13] <Beldar> bluefox83, Careful with the word broken, it has specific meanings a package can be actually broken, not just your definition.
[03:14] <cfhowlett> !openbox
[03:14] <bluefox83> Beldar: ok...but any idea what the problem is?
[03:14] <Beldar> bluefox83, This was an upgrade correct?
[03:15] <Beldar> you upgraded to 14.04 from something, what?
[03:15] <bluefox83> Beldar: yes, and unfortunately I am unable to get the 14.04 image to boot from my usb installer
[03:15] <bluefox83> Beldar: 13.10
[03:16] <Dr_Kabuki> What did you use to make the live USB?
[03:16] <Beldar> bluefox83, When?
[03:16] <bluefox83> eh...like in june?
[03:16] <Neurome> Can anybody help me get streamripstar running : O
[03:16] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: the default usblive maker thing in 13.10
[03:17] <netlar> Is it dumb to feel weird about getting mint or elemetary, cuase it is just copying the base of ubuntu?
[03:17] <Beldar> bluefox83, Any errors when you did?
[03:17] <bluefox83> no, got the same black screen
[03:18] <Guma> ubottu: I will just reinstall fresh. It would be easy. I jsut did backup my home folder
[03:18] <bluefox83> or purple, with the loading screen thing
[03:18] <Guma> opps :) crap
[03:18] <Beldar> bluefox83, How is this related to the  "loading initial ramdisk"?
[03:18] <Guma> talking to bot :) I must be drinking
[03:18] <bluefox83> Beldar: i get the same thing when trying to install from the usb drive
[03:18] <Dr_Kabuki> bluefox83: If you have access to a windows machine, theres a great tool called Rufus to make live USB media with
[03:19] <netlar> I know Ubuntu is a debian base, but just a copy of a copy of a copy, rather have the original
[03:19] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: while i do have access...i'd really rather saw my own face off than use it
[03:19] <Dr_Kabuki> Lol
[03:20] <bluefox83> this has gotten waaaay out of hand honestly
[03:20] <bluefox83> it got bad, then it got to the point where i almost couldn't boot anything...i dunno what i should do now :/
[03:20] <Dr_Kabuki> More troubleshooting, is the USB drive plugged into a 2.0 or 3.0 port?
[03:20] <bluefox83> i'm even considering i've tried both
[03:20] <bluefox83> er..lol
[03:20] <bluefox83> i've tried both 2.0 and 3.0
[03:21] <bluefox83> same result
[03:21] <Dr_Kabuki> There's a bunch of things that can make this happen so I'm just running down the list
[03:21] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. any tips?
[03:21] <Dr_Kabuki> owen1, what ubuntu version?
[03:22] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: i'm not really worried about the installer. I'm more concerned with making my system readily bootable again
[03:22] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: 14.04
[03:22] <bluefox83> instead of having to go through the trouble of selecting advanced options, then selecting the right kernel in recovery mode
[03:23] <Vampire-Bill> ok no vm help what about an app that you now works in 14.04 to run android os in thank you
[03:24] <Dr_Kabuki> bluefox83, What happens as of now when you try to boot the system?
[03:24] <Beldar> bluefox83, I think this has to do with the uefi stuff and setups and nvidia drivers possibly, I would use the ubuntu forums as well, there are a few people there that are focused on thses dual boots, for example, this mod, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2132581
[03:24] <bluefox83> Beldar: i'm using radeon >.>
[03:25] <Beldar> bluefox83, sure that is just one outlier
[03:25] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: it goes to a screen that says "loading inital ramdisk" and that's all
[03:25] <Dr_Kabuki> owen1, did you do any serious modifications to the system or is it basically vanilla?
[03:25] <bluefox83> it will sit there forever DL:
[03:25] <bluefox83> D:
[03:26] <Neurome> bluefox83, you could try booting off some other version of linux on a boot disk, and if theres no issue it would have to be software, if the bootdisk (whatever distro) has a great deal of problems you'd know its a hardware issue *most probable*
[03:27] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: vanilla, but i don't use unity. i chose 'i3' window manager in the session window.
[03:28] <bluefox83> Neurome: it was working a week ago just fine, then i did a system update and it lost my video settings (i use a tv hooked to my laptop sometimes) so i tried reinstalling the video drivers, but that just really broke it D:
[03:28] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: btw, i don't know if it's called 'suspend'. the screen turns black.
[03:28] <owen1> and i move the mouse a bit to bring it back. it takes a second.
[03:29] <Neurome> bluefox83, when you say tv hooked to your laptop, do you mean dual display and how is it hooked up? hdmi ?
[03:29] <bluefox83> Neurome: hdmi, i just clone the laptop display
[03:30] <bluefox83> with the amd catalyst software
[03:30] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: maybe it's related to dpms bug? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/2134/screen-turns-black/
[03:30] <bluefox83> i had it set up so i could turn my laptop on, and it would boot straight to ubuntu login, i'd login and it would automatically clone the screen
[03:30] <Dr_Kabuki> If the screen just turns black, it likely isn't suspending
[03:31] <bluefox83> then i did a system update and it all turned to crap D:
[03:31] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: i'll try running xset -dpms
[03:31] <Neurome> bluefox83, id safe the safest and surest thing to do is make backups of all the valuable digital data on your computer, and do a clean install
[03:31] <bluefox83> Neurome: can't. the installer doesn't work :/
[03:31] <bluefox83> i had to do an upgrade from 13.10
[03:32] <Neurome> cause you never know what kinda software, permission conflict , there could be
[03:32] <trololololo> I AM HERE TO PISS YOU OFF
[03:32] <Neurome> installer not working ?
[03:32] <trololololo> YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM IS SHITTY
[03:32] <trololololo> CANONICAL IS SHITTY
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !ops | trololololo, ban this fool
[03:32] <Basketball> if i dont have a schedule boot option in bios will http://sourceforge.net/projects/nvram-wakeup/ work
[03:32] <trololololo> hfjdkshfjskaldfhdasjklfh
[03:32] <kostkon> trololololo, you again...
[03:32] <trololololo> what
[03:32] <trololololo> this is my first time ehre
[03:32] <trololololo> here
[03:32] <trololololo> lol
[03:32] <Basketball> !ops |trolololol
[03:33] <kostkon> 2nd time..
[03:33] <phunyguy> WE GOT IT THE FIRST TIME.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, tyvm
[03:33]  * bluefox83 facepalms
[03:33] <Neurome> bluefox83, get yumi multiboot disk usb creator
[03:33] <Neurome> the official site is here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[03:34] <bluefox83> Neurome: the hell do i need a multiboot disk creator for? i don't have windows on this machine O.o
[03:34] <Neurome> you dont' have access to any windows machine ?
[03:34] <bluefox83> i have access, i prefer not to use them
[03:35] <Neurome> the library, school , a friends
[03:35] <Neurome> bluefox83, id suggest to use that tool and put 2 or 3 different versions of *nix on it that you like
[03:35] <rypervenche> I personally set up my own grub2 multiboot USB drive. :)
[03:36] <bluefox83> Neurome: i would prefer just using ubuntu as i don't have time to screw around with anything else
[03:36] <Neurome> bluefox83, Then if the issue/problem youre having on your box is software, you'd have no issue booting into the boot usb drive
[03:36] <bluefox83> i feel like i'm in a windows forum, the advice is the same, format and reinstall D:
[03:36] <Neurome> because the BIOS bypasses the harddrive
[03:37] <bluefox83> Neurome: i'm fairly certain the issue is with uefi + the kernel
[03:38] <bluefox83> starting to wonder if i shouldn't just compile my own dang kernel D:
[03:38] <Neurome> either way you're having difficulty operating on the malfunctioning box, booting into a boot disk will make the box more manageable
[03:39] <Dr_Kabuki> I don't think that will help...
[03:39] <bluefox83> no it wont
[03:39] <Neurome> then you'd be able to change , delete any of the files
[03:39] <[Uber]> why was I banned yesterday
[03:39] <Basketball> my /var/log/kern.log* files contains the text RTC can wake from S4    how can i set up wake at 6 am shutdown and 7 am then wake up at 3 pm and shut down at midnight
[03:39] <Neurome> replace the video drivers with older ones
[03:39] <Basketball> and repeat on weekdays
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | [Uber] misbehavior.  you're here today.  act better.
[03:40] <[Uber]> how did I misbehave..
[03:40] <bluefox83> actually i compiled the latest betas for this kernel and it's working
[03:40] <[Uber]> I said that the spammers didn't seem to like yo uguys
[03:40] <[Uber]> and got banned
[03:40] <Neurome> bluefox83, did you even try disconnecting the hdmi and turning the computer on without the external monitor plugged in?
[03:40] <bluefox83> but if i try to boot into it without going through the recovery thing first, it fails
[03:40] <bluefox83> Neurome: i'm not retarded...yes
[03:40] <Neurome> heh : ) doesn't hurt to ask
[03:41] <bluefox83> sorry i've been up since 4:30am and it's now 11:41pm
[03:41] <cfhowlett> [Uber], read the guidelines.  follow them.  topic of this channel is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[03:43] <bluefox83> i'ma try to start up the latest kernel...and if that doesn't work i'm going to explode >.>
[03:47] <phunyguy> _Uber:  I saw that happen, I think there may have been a misunderstanding, can you join #ubuntu-ops to discuss?
[03:47] <_Uber> I don't really mind now, tbg.
[03:47] <_Uber> tbh*
[03:57] <Neurome> hm
[03:58] <Neurome> anybody there ?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Neurome, ask your ubuntu questions
[04:01] <Neurome> i can't get streamtuner2 working or streamripstar working
[04:01] <Basketball> how can i set up wake at 6 am suspend and 7 am then wake up at 3 pm and suspend at midnight and repeat every weekday
[04:02] <Neurome> Task scheduling
[04:03] <Basketball> how neunon
[04:03] <Basketball> Neurome,
[04:03] <expunge> Basketball: some BIOSes allow scheduled wakes
[04:03] <expunge> Basketball: suspend you can schedule from the OS
[04:04] <expunge> with cron
[04:04] <Basketball> expunge,  mine allows from hibernation or suspend
[04:04] <expunge> Basketball: hrmm?
[04:04] <Basketball> how do i set it up step by step in ubuntu 12.04
[04:04] <Neurome> cfhowlett, why wont streamtuner 2 play anything ?
[04:05] <expunge> Basketball: first check if your BIOS can schedule a wakeup
[04:05] <cfhowlett> Neurome, never used it, don't know anything about it.
[04:05] <Neurome> ugh
[04:05] <expunge> Basketball: if not you might need an extra computer to send it a signal
[04:05] <Basketball> expunge,  imy /var/log/kern.log* files contains the text RTC can wake from S4  which means from wake and susp[end
[04:11] <Neurome> Basketball, look into task scheduling & task automation thats what your looking for
[04:12] <Basketball> in gnome schedule what is weekday 1
[04:13] <Neurome> that maybe helps
[04:13] <Neurome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[04:15] <expunge> man 5 crontab
[04:15] <Basketball> can someone type the commands for me i dont want to screw up my computer
[04:16] <Basketball> monday - friday i want to suspend at midnight  suspend at 6 amand wake at 3 pm
[04:18] <wheatthin> Basketball, there is a graphical chrontab you can program
[04:19] <ki7mt> I think cron requires an active sys-clock, maybe a second system + cron and wake-on-lan or something would be more appropriate.
[04:24] <Neurome> ki7mt
[04:24] <Basketball> expunge,  what is the command to ask to suspend and auto suspend if no reply in 60 sec
[04:24] <Neurome> he would have to setup one computer has a server and desired computer as client to that computer to get commands
[04:25] <Neurome> which just isn't really practical
[04:25] <expunge> Basketball: wha?
[04:25] <expunge> it is if you have a low power computer running your home
[04:25] <expunge> which is the future =)
[04:25] <Neurome> unless you
[04:25] <kostkon> Basketball, man rtcwake
[04:25] <Neurome> you're working at a school or some other corporation
[04:25] <Basketball> you know how when yyou press the shutdown button if you dont select a option in 60 seconds it auto shutsdown what is the command to suspend
[04:25] <Basketball> like that
[04:27] <wheatthin> Basketball, maybe look into the "shutdown" options
[04:27] <Basketball> ok i wrote my crontab command where do i put it
[04:27] <Neurome> expunge if the computers don't crash before than because some far away star died and let out an electromagnetic wave thats been on course in our direction for like 1 million years
[04:27] <expunge> Basketball: why would you wake something up if you didn't want to use it?
[04:27] <Neurome> : )
[04:27] <expunge> Neurome: yup
[04:28] <Basketball> expunge,  what you mean
[04:28] <Neurome> Basketball i found that link after 10 seconds using google
[04:28] <kostkon> Basketball, there's wakeonplan https://launchpad.net/wakeonplan but only for older versions at the moment. The dev is currently porting it to qml. you could  grab an older version from its ppa, but i don't know
[04:28] <Neurome> im sure you could find where to put it using google
[04:28] <wheatthin> Basketball, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[04:31] <Basketball> what is the command to wake from cmmand line
[04:32] <expunge> Basketball: another computer on the network?
[04:32] <expunge> or are you talking about that rtc stuff?
[04:32] <kostkon> Basketball, setup a rtc alarm?
[04:32] <Basketball> expunge,  no my computer can wake from suspend or hibernate by its self
[04:32] <kostkon> Basketball, man rtcwake
[04:32] <Basketball> how do i have a cron to wake at 3:00
[04:33] <cxmu> i got a friend in jesus
[04:33] <kostkon> cxmu, what?
[04:34] <cxmu> well i don't know why i cam here tonight
[04:34] <cxmu> i got the feeling something ain't right
[04:34] <expunge> ...
[04:34] <kostkon> cxmu, stay here and you may find out eventually
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:35] <cxmu> drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
[04:35] <cxmu> i wonder what that lyric actually means
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !ot | cxmu
[04:35] <kostkon> cxmu, are you a bot?
[04:36] <cxmu> i wish, then i wouldn't be wanting to rip my eye out right now from trigeminal neuralgia
[04:36] <Basketball> kostkon,  so what do i say to use local time and sleep at 24:00 and wake at 6:00 and sleep at 7:00 and wake ay 3:00 mon-friday
[04:37] <kostkon> Basketball, not sure you can do all that with rtcwake
[04:37] <cxmu> sudo make my migrane go away
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> cxmu: plz stop the offtopic chat in here
[04:38] <Basketball> i would use it as a crontab like the first one then the second one
[04:38] <cxmu> its not off topic i am typing commands into the chat and hoping for them to work
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !ops | cxmu
[04:38] <kostkon> Basketball, probably you could, by setting up multiple alarms. But you will need to calculate the wake up time in minutes (and seconds)
[04:39] <Basketball> kostkon,  what would the rtc wake be for just midnight to 6 am
[04:39] <kostkon> Basketball, and the alarms will run once
[04:39] <Basketball> kostkon,  yes one time
[04:40] <Basketball> kostkon,  i will use cron tab for everyday and the starttime
[04:41] <kostkon> Basketball, you can use cron to setup a new alarm every day yes
[04:41] <kostkon> Basketball, then the alrm will go off, then when the pc wakes up cron will setup a new one for the next day etc etc
[04:41] <Basketball> kostkon,  so what is the rtcwake for suspend until 6 am
[04:42] <kostkon> Basketball, i/m guessing you can pull it off with a bit of an effort
[04:42] <kostkon> Basketball, there's the -s option that says "Sets the wakeup time to seconds in future from now."
[04:43] <kostkon> Basketball, so just do the conversion
[04:43] <Basketball> kostkon,  what is the command for suspend -m what
[04:43]  * rww looks up
[04:43] <kostkon> Basketball, hmm no idea
[04:45]  * rww shrugs and wanders off
[04:45] <kostkon> Basketball, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387   the link that wheatthin gave you
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> rww: :p
[04:46] <Basketball> rtcwake -m how do you compile program from zip containing cpp and makefile
[04:47] <kostkon> Basketball, oh you can also suspend with rtcwake good
[04:47] <Basketball> kostkon,  can you please write the rtcwake command for me
[04:47] <Basketball> i want it to suspend until 6 am
[04:47] <Basketball> using local time
[04:52] <kostkon> Basketball, rtcwake -s 3600xnumber_of_hours ?  or   rtcwake -m mem -s 3600xhours ?
[04:53] <Basketball> kostkon,  i want to use -t which is time
[04:53] <Basketball> and -l for local
[04:53] <kostkon> Basketball, google for an epoch time converter make sure it's for unix
[04:55] <Basketball> rtcwake -m mem -t 6:00 -l is that right?
[04:56] <kostkon> Basketball, you need to convert that time to unix epoch
[04:56] <Basketball> -l | --local
[04:56] <Basketball>               Assumes that the hardware clock is set to local time, regardless
[04:56] <Basketball>               of the contents of /etc/adjtime.
[04:56] <Basketball>   -t time_t | --time time_t
[04:56] <Basketball>               Sets the wakeup time to the absolute time time_t. time_t is  the
[04:56] <Basketball>               time  in  seconds since 1970-01-01, 00:00 UTC. Use the date tool
[04:56] <Basketball>               to convert between human-readable time and time_t.
[04:56] <unopaste> Basketball you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:57] <wafflejock> Basketball: regarding compiling a program typically there are instructions in a README file along with the source
[04:57] <kostkon> Basketball, yo still need to do the converstion. just google for an online converter
[04:57] <kostkon> Basketball, 2 mins top
[04:57] <kostkon> 1min
[04:58] <kostkon> tops*
[04:58] <Basketball> kostkon,  i will do anything for you if you write it for me
[04:58] <Basketball> for both the wake up at 6 and the wake up at 3
[04:58] <Basketball> i will then put it into crontab
[05:00] <kostkon> Basketball, here http://www.epochconverter.com/  e.g. rtcwake -t 1408856383   for current time. well almost :P
[05:00] <Basketball> but i just want 6:00  dont want the day i am doing that in crontab
[05:02] <kostkon> Basketball, right. then only option is to use the -s parameter and set the seconds in the future
[05:03] <Basketball> why is this so hard all i want is monday through friday for my pc to suspend fro midnight to 6 am and from 7 am to 3 pm
[05:04] <kostkon> Basketball, you are right. you could easily right a bash script that calcultes the future time and creates a new rtcwake up for the next time
[05:04] <wafflejock> Basketball: cause the options you supplied want absolute time
[05:04] <kostkon> Basketball, and have cron run that every day
[05:04] <kostkon> write*
[05:05] <kostkon> rtcwake alarm*
[05:05] <Basketball> i have to go to sleep will someone please do this for me i will give them whatever they want
[05:06] <kostkon> Basketball, the script will just calculate the future time in epoch and then call rtcwake -t $time  or whatever i don't know how variables actually work in bash
[05:06] <Basketball> gtg please someone pm me with the final code/ solution
[05:06] <expunge> kostkon: doesn't matter, he's not willing to do any work at all
[05:06] <Basketball> expunge, because idk how
[05:07] <expunge> mmm
[05:09] <Basketball> kostkon,  from midnight until 6 am is 108,000 seconds
[05:09] <kostkon> Basketball, that's assuming you know when you will suspend your pc. or if you want to automate that as well then fine
[05:10] <Basketball> no , right just 108000
[05:10] <Beldar>   /j #ubuntu-enabling
[05:10] <Basketball> kostkon,  sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[05:11] <xsoultribex> why ubuntu gnome 14.04.1 not showing the shell version in details?
[05:12] <Beldar> xsoultribex, Can you describe what you mean?
[05:12] <kostkon> Basketball, it's confusing :/  but ok let's assumethe cron job runs a script, you can make the script check the time, calcuate the difference in seconds and setup the alarm in seconds yes
[05:12] <kostkon> that*
[05:12] <Basketball> kostkon,  if i have it run at midnight why wont 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem work
[05:13] <kostkon> Basketball, that assuming you manually suspend your pc and you only want to wake up automatically
[05:13] <kostkon> wake it to*
[05:13] <Beldar> xsoultribex, gnome 3 is already mostly there the shell is a just a few more packages.
[05:13] <Basketball> doesnt rtcwake do the suspend
[05:13] <kostkon> Basketball, oh right right
[05:13] <kostkon> Basketball, do that
[05:14] <kostkon> Basketball, if you want to suspend it at the same time yeah
[05:14] <xsoultribex> beldar, in settings>details> it only show up the ubuntu 14.04 below the gnome foot icon, i see some other posters they show there gnome version below the gnome foot icon
[05:14] <kostkon> Basketball, you can do both yeah
[05:15] <Beldar> xsoultribex, What settings?
[05:16] <Basketball> kostkon,  and then from 7 to 3 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[05:16] <xsoultribex> wait i post some screenshot
[05:17] <kostkon> Basketball, so, first job runs. it goes to sleep, wakes up, sometime later runs the second job, sleeps, wakes up runs the first job etc?  in theory it should work
[05:18] <Basketball> kostkon, 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[05:18] <Basketball> 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[05:18] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 1,0,6 pmi action suspend
[05:18] <kostkon> Basketball, why the 3rd one?
[05:18] <Basketball> the first 2 are for the weekdays and the last one is on weekend for whatever time i wak up
[05:19] <Basketball> i just manually wake it
[05:19] <kostkon> Basketball, oh
[05:19] <Basketball> do i just add to crontab -e
[05:19] <Basketball> and it autoruns
[05:19] <kostkon> think so
[05:20] <Basketball> ok we will see in the moring if it is suspended
[05:20] <kostkon> it's 2 lines and i said 3rd one :/
[05:20] <xsoultribex> beldar, here it is  http://imgur.com/nuXDaPs
[05:20] <Basketball> thanks for your help
[05:20] <kostkon> Basketball, np
[05:21] <Basketball> gtg
[05:21] <Basketball> kostkon,  ohhh dont forget to turn off powersaving turn off screen after certain minutes that would mess everything up
[05:22] <kostkon> ??
[05:24] <WakeODonnell> Yo, could anyone help me with a USB issue?
[05:24] <kostkon> !details | WakeODonnell
[05:25] <WakeODonnell> Ok, so that's how this works.
[05:25] <Beldar> xsoultribex, Not sure why it does say the shell version, easily found out if needed.
[05:25] <Beldar> not say*
[05:25] <lucif3r>  /join #securethelock
[05:26] <Beldar> xsoultribex, Are you using a ppa gnome shell?
[05:27] <Beldar> xsoultribex, version, gnome-shell --version in the cli
[05:27] <xsoultribex> yeah, im using the ppa gnome3, but this ubuntu gnome 14.04.1 fresh install i got this from there website
[05:27] <ldlework> Hello. Right now, I cannot ping any ip addresses, no dns resolves, and yet here I am talking to you. Using netstat, I can even get the ip that I'm connected to 6667 on and yet I cannot ping that address at all. What is going on here?
[05:28] <xsoultribex> beldar, in terminal i got a view of my gnome version
[05:28] <Beldar> xsoultribex, This the gnome shell install not a canonical release, although supported?
[05:29] <kostkon> xsoultribex, ubuntu-gnome?
[05:29] <ldlework> If I simply reconnect to my wireless all is well for about 30 minutes until this wierd failure to connect to any ip addresses, except streaming music continues..irc continues..
[05:29] <ldlework> I'm really confused
[05:30] <xsoultribex> yeah it is supported
[05:31] <xsoultribex> kostkon, yeah it is ubuntu gnome 14.04.1
[05:31] <WakeODonnell> Could someone PM me?? Live USB issue.
[05:32] <Beldar> WakeODonnell, YOU want channel help.
[05:32] <kostkon> xsoultribex, it says official derivative on its site yeah
[05:33] <kostkon> ldlework, dns probs?
[05:33] <ldlework> no I cannot actually ping any addresses either
[05:33] <WakeODonnell> ?? Is this not it?
[05:33] <kostkon> ldlework, ip addresses?
[05:33] <WakeODonnell> Sorry I'm dumb with this
[05:33] <ldlework> kostkon: correct
[05:33] <kostkon> ldlework, ok
[05:33] <ldlework> kostkon: how is that possible?
[05:34] <kostkon> ldlework, hmm
[05:34] <ldlework> kostkon: if I just reconnect to my wireless it will work as normal for like 30 minutes
[05:35] <ldlework> then I will loose the ability to make new connetions but old ones will continue
[05:35] <ldlework> like irc, right now, even though I can't ping anything
[05:35] <goFU> IdleOne: You got cheapo router.
[05:36] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, describe your problem here
[05:36] <mellamokb> i'm trying to install gnome on ubuntu server vm.. is this message normal:
[05:36] <Beldar> close goFU
[05:36] <mellamokb> /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol
[05:36] <WakeODonnell> Kostkon: I'm attempting to boot from a USB stick to install Ubuntu. It worked fine the first time, but not anymore. It failed the partition resizing and I rebooted the system accidentally after attempting to be like "eff it" and use the demo version for now. After that, I keep getting a black screen after the loading screen with the logo, and using nomodeset as recommended by a lot of people leads to a blinking underline in the 
[05:36] <ldlework> goFU: I'm not sure that explains it. Its not exactly a cheap router.
[05:36] <WakeODonnell> Top-left*
[05:37] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, you could try reinstalling it
[05:37] <ldlework> kostkon: no idea right?
[05:37] <goFU> WakeODonnell: it uefi problem
[05:38] <WakeODonnell> Kostkon: That's what I'm trying to do, it failed the partition resizing and I exited, but I can't get that far anymore.
[05:38] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, right
[05:38] <memeka> I want to install some specific package (apt-get install xxx=old_vers) which depends on yyy=old_vers but apt is not smart enough to install the old_vers dep and wants to install new version => unmet dependencies message (with yyy new_vers to be installed) .... how can i install the right version for the deps too (they are not installed, and they are in the repo)
[05:38] <WakeODonnell> Kostkon: would I re-make the Live USB then?
[05:39] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, you could try that first just to be sure
[05:39] <WakeODonnell> KostkonL Ok, I will. Might get some sleeps afterwards. X3 I'll come back failing that.
[05:39] <goFU> WakeODonnell: go into uefi and disable it. Its strictly meant for Windows.
[05:39] <WakeODonnell> goFU: How would I go about that?
[05:40] <WakeODonnell> goFU: Nvm, I'll just google it
[05:42] <goFU> IdleOne: try changing ur WiFi from 5 mhz to 2.4
[05:43] <deepu> hi  I have a Problem with the bluetooth firmware, While Booting Ubuntu it says loading bluetooth sys config file failed.
[05:43] <deepu> Can Anyone give me a solution for this
[05:44] <goFU> Beldar: what scoundral
[05:45] <expunge> deepu: how is that a problem?
[05:46] <deepu> I could n't able to see the bluetooth icon thereafter , how can i install a new bluetooth adapter ?
[05:48] <Guest34864> deepu, have you installed the 3rd party drivers?
[05:48] <goFU> Guest34864: say what
[05:49] <deepu> I did n't install any third party driver apart from the UBuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit operating system
[05:49] <goFU> deepu: did it work before
[05:50] <Guest34864> deepu, i don't really know, but a long time ago i remember solving my bluetooth problems by opening the additional drivers app and installing them there
[05:51] <deepu> no sometimes it is working and some times its not ..
[05:52] <tortib> Hello everyone.  What is the package for the lamp stack?
[05:52] <tortib> the meta-package.
[05:53] <goFU> deepu: did it work
[05:54] <goFU> deepu: search for a PPA
[05:55] <Shadow> Ello
[05:55] <ubunt> how to open new terminal from command line?
[05:55] <goFU> Deepu143: PPA for Bluetooth for your model.
[05:55] <expunge> ubunt: hrmm?
[06:00] <ubunt> how to open new terminal from command line?
[06:00] <expunge> ubunt: I'm not sure that makes much sense
[06:07] <bung> ive added a user to a group, www-pub, but i can't write in a folder where it has that group as group owner, what gives?
[06:07] <ubunt> ok i know thanks for you collaboration only put gnome-terminal
[06:07] <whfkvfszjibsaybx> Is Ubuntu good as a server?
[06:23] <green4984> how do i use my ubuntu 12.04 as client openvpn the windows as server
[06:24] <ldlework> Hi, when trying to run wicd-client I get: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[06:26] <ldlework> gar I still can't ping anything
[07:01] <helmut_> hi
[07:03] <zergut> Goood day, what do i have to use to open audiostream in Ubuntu?
[07:03] <zergut> Rhythmbox is mostly like lame for such purposes
[07:04] <zergut> for opening*
[07:09] <zergut> Thanks, the question is closed, have a nice day
[07:14] <ainx> witch app for manage sound equalizer?
[07:18] <tony_> hello
[07:19] <xupeng> hello
[07:30] <senn558> So I had Ubunti 12.something installed, running KDE. Video in firefox played completely smooth. I recently wiped out the install and installed Ubuntu 14.something, which comes with Unity (i guess?). Now video in firefox has video tearing and isn't quite as smooth. Nothing else has changed. I'm also surprised how few settings I can find in this new Ubuntu. I used to be able to access proprietary video drivers (don't see any option to even see what driver I'm 
[07:31] <trijntje> senn558: go to software & updates -> Additional drivers
[07:32] <senn558> yeah, i did. it says there's nothing available
[07:33] <trijntje> then you are using the default drivers which should be fine. How old is your pc?
[07:33] <senn558> also says no proprietary drivers are in use, which i find odd. because i swore i previously had a proprietary driver installed for my gtx580ti
[07:33] <senn558> in fact, i remember having to install a proprietary driver before in order to get advanced desktop environment things to work like the rotating cube
[07:34] <senn558> but that stuff doesnt even seem to exist anymore
[07:35] <trijntje> senn558: maybe the driver got moved into the kernel? In that case you don't have to install it by hand
[07:36] <senn558> hmmm...maybe. so why is the video performance sub par now?
[07:38] <trijntje> could be because unity requires more video memory, or because of something weird with flash/firefox.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> senn558, sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras          = multimedia codecs
[07:41] <fkbm> Hello, everybody, I downloaded the mini.iso 64-bit ubuntu and it seemed strange at first that the primary disc (/dev/sda) was seen as (/dev/sdd)
[07:41] <fkbm> This wasn't a problem until grub2 install which always tries to install it on /dev/sda
[07:41] <cfhowlett> fkbm, you can choose the grub installation location
[07:42] <fkbm> My question is: Can I instruct the installer (without restarting all the installation) that I want /dev/sdd for the location of GRUB?
[07:42] <fkbm> cfhowlett: Thank you, millions!!! How do I do it though? :)
[07:42] <cfhowlett> fkbm, yes.  reinstall grub
[07:42] <cfhowlett> !grub
[07:43] <trijntje> fkbm: you cant choose, you have to manually install grub to /dev/sdd
[07:43] <fkbm> Hmm, but I'm in the installation environment (USB stick) and I'm at the menu where I can choose reinstall, but it still tries /dev/sda
[07:43] <fkbm> Oh.
[07:43] <fkbm> OK.
[07:43] <fkbm> I'll look at that link, then.
[07:44] <senn558> cfhowlett:  I get "Invalid operation ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[07:44] <cfhowlett> senn558, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:45] <cfhowlett> senn558, sorry, I left out an essential command by acccident
[07:46] <senn558> its doing stuff now
[07:49] <trijntje> fkbm: it might be easier to let it install grub to the usb, boot into the harddrive with the usb as bootdevice, and hten grub-install onto your main hard drive
[07:49] <trijntje> instead of chrooting about after the installation has completed
[07:50] <fkbm> trijntje: I find it a bit difficult because all the links on google point to a grub-install like a rescue disk. I may just let it not install the grub and just reenter with a rescue disk to set the correct grub.
[07:52] <fkbm> All I have on the mini.iso is the grub-installer (notice the 'er') So I'm going to take your advice.
[07:54] <Beldar> fkbm, You can use supergrub to boot it if needed and install grub to the mbr you want from the desktop.
[07:57] <cfhowlett> senn558, fixed?
[07:57] <senn558> dunno yet...dealing with another problem that emerged after restart
[07:58] <dyu> if i run two cron jobs with @hourly, do they get executed at the same time? or does job B wait for job A to finish? job A is listed before job B in the crontab
[07:59] <Beldar> senn558, I looked on the web, on this driver and see numerous ways of going about tweaking it, you may just need to do some research.
[08:00] <Beldar> err on this card that is
[08:09] <senn558> Beldar: one of the issues im having with this new ubuntu is there seems to be a major lack of options to configure things. i cant even find the driver under the settings. a lot of stuff i can't find anymore.
[08:10] <senn558> its so minimal, its like the tried to clone apple's style
[08:11] <Beldar> senn558, If you want gui's nvidia has some I believe, it is configs you will have to mess with, that is one of the good, bad and ugly of linux.
[08:11] <bekks> senn558: Which "driver"? What exactly do you want to do, using which Ubuntu release exactly?
[08:12] <Beldar> 12.04 and 14.04 are hardly different, you just have to be more experienced in knowing what to do.
[08:13] <senn558> i dunno...i didnt spend much time with 12 or 14. 9 was the version i used to use a lot. it had so many options to configure things. i'd say 80% of that is gone in the gui now.
[08:14] <bekks> senn558: So you dont know what you are trying to do?
[08:14] <Beldar> senn558, This is not gnome 2, but a different desktop you are not familiar with.
[08:14] <senn558> yeah. i guess i miss gnome.
[08:14] <senn558> its cool...no biggie
[08:15] <Beldar> senn558, I would allow bekks to look through your issue however.
[08:16] <senn558> its fine. dont think i want to mess with it anymore. ill probably just cause more problems.
[08:16] <bekks> "it"?
[08:20] <kaushal> nm
[08:21] <marvin-hh> modprobe fglrx says that the driver cannot be found and ubuntu-drivers autoinstall doesn't install fglrx. Support that, please.
[08:22] <marvin-hh> If ubuntu-drivers autoinstall would have been a well written program, it would have checked for such basic conditions and then give some useful message as to what to with this mess.
[08:22] <bekks> marvin-hh: Thats mostly because fglrx does not support your particular hardware.
[08:22] <bekks> marvin-hh: Did you consider that possibility?
[08:23] <marvin-hh> bekks: yes, but it does support my particular hardware.
[08:23] <Gatis> Hi
[08:23] <Gatis> What window manager does Ubuntu use?
[08:23] <eeee> compiz
[08:23] <marvin-hh> bekks: in fact, in a previous run it does list fglrx and fglrx-updates as potential drivers.
[08:23] <bekks> marvin-hh: So you can install fglrx manually?
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: I am now purging it and reinstalling.
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: but that's kind of the whole point of ubuntu-driver autoinstall, IMHO.
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: i.e., that I shouldn't have to think about this stuff.
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: ubuntu-drivers is just a broken program and should be fixed.
[08:25] <marvin-hh> bekks: I don't understand why Ubuntu distributes such bad programs.
[08:25] <Gatis> WHat's the name of official openbox channel?
[08:25] <Beldar> marvin-hh, Whay are you usinglinux?
[08:25] <Wizard> Gatis: #openbox? ;)
[08:26] <Gatis> Wizard: it's not
[08:26] <Wizard> Gatis: They can have channel on different network.
[08:27] <marvin-hh> Beldar: Ubuntu Linux specifically because of legacy.
[08:27] <Beldar> marvin-hh, Legacy of what?
[08:27] <marvin-hh> Beldar: Linux because the kernel itself is not that bad.
[08:27] <Wizard> Hmm, I thought openbox development is essentially dead?
[08:27] <eeee> marvin-hh: ----> not making sense
[08:28] <marvin-hh> eeee: to you.
[08:28] <Gatis> ok
[08:28] <Gatis> Wizard: dead?
[08:28] <Beldar> to all of us
[08:28] <eeee> why do you go hunting ? the guns have a nice design
[08:28] <eeee> ok....
[08:28] <TJ-> marvin-hh: If you're upset at proprietary driver issues, the correct target of your irritation should be the hardware manufacturer that does not support fully open drivers
[08:29] <Wizard> TJ-++
[08:29] <marvin-hh> If I remove a particular package, I get another package installed?!
[08:29] <bekks> marvin-hh: Thats called "dependencies".
[08:29] <marvin-hh> How do I tell to the machine to really remove it?
[08:29] <marvin-hh> I know better than the system what I want to do.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Gatis, irc://irc.oftc.net/#openbox
[08:30] <user3> hi people
[08:30] <Wizard> Gatis: http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:Community_portal
[08:30] <marvin-hh> It's the first time that I have a deletion operation result in an installation operation.
[08:30] <Wizard> They have a channelo on OTFC.
[08:30] <TJ-> marvin-hh: Please be specific - which packages?
[08:30] <marvin-hh> TJ-: fglrx and fglrx-updates
[08:30] <bekks> marvin-hh: Remove what exactly? And in all cases I've seen in the last 20 years, the system did know it better than the user. The system organizes the dependencies between 31000+ packages, because it knows it better than the user.
[08:30] <Wizard> Gatis: I didn't even needed to use Google to find it ;/
[08:31] <marvin-hh> TJ-: apt-get remove --purge fglrx results in installing fglrx-updates
[08:31] <TJ-> marvin-hh: Which package are you trying to remove, and which package is trying to be installed ?
[08:31] <user3> i can no watch movies in internet that require flash-player, even that I have it installed
[08:31] <marvin-hh> TJ-: see above.
[08:31] <user3> so, what is the matter?
[08:31] <TJ-> marvin-hh: thanks, now we can figure it out :)
[08:31] <Wizard> user3: Which browser?
[08:31] <Beldar> user3, What browser?
[08:32] <user3> fire fox
[08:32] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I would be OK with aptitude doing this kind of stuff, but apt-get remove should, IMHO, only remove stuff.
[08:32] <user3> and google
[08:32] <Wizard> user3: in ff, about:plugins
[08:32] <Wizard> user3: Check if flash is on the list.
[08:32] <user3> how to do it?
[08:32] <Wizard> I've just told you.
[08:32] <user3> sorry about my ignorance
[08:32] <Wizard> :D
[08:32] <Beldar> user3, You can use the pepper flash in FF, maybe just try chome.
[08:33] <Beldar> chrome*
[08:33] <bekks> marvin-hh: apt-get remove will install packages for meeting dependencies if the remove operation would cause the breakage of dependencies otherwise.
[08:33] <marvin-hh> bekks: that's not what the documentation says.
[08:33] <bekks> marvin-hh: Thats exactly what the documentation says.
[08:33] <user3> how to chang to ff?
[08:33] <marvin-hh> bekks: as such, there is a bug in the program until this is corrected.
[08:33] <marvin-hh> bekks: I just read the instructions for the remove command.
[08:34] <L4DD2> Hello. Question: If I install Ubuntu on UEFI mode (encrypted with LUKS/LVM). Do I need only an unencrypted EFI-partition or do I need an unencrypted EFI-partition and /boot-partition?
[08:34] <bekks> marvin-hh: Which is not enough for understanding the package management system.
[08:34] <marvin-hh> bekks: it might be that this is located in some illogical location too, but that would be a writing error.
[08:34] <marvin-hh> bekks: I now read the whole prefix up to the remove command.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: and it tells me that the current program behaviour is just wrong.
[08:35] <bekks> marvin-hh: Which is still not enough for understanding the package manager and the handling of dependencies.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: the manpage is supposed to document what a program does.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: if it doesn't you didn't comprehend Unix.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: you being whoever wrote apt-get.
[08:35] <bekks> marvin-hh: And the man page consists of far more than just the remove section.
[08:36] <marvin-hh> bekks: yes, and I read everything before that too.
[08:36] <marvin-hh> bekks: how about you tell me where it is allowed for apt-get to do this?
[08:36] <bekks> marvin-hh: So please dont get personal on people you dont know unless you did not understand how the package management system works.
[08:36] <frib> is there no "Master" Volume in pulse audio ??
[08:36] <TJ-> marvin-hh: The only package in the fglrx or fglrx-updates packages reverse-dependencies to cause one or the other to be installed is "xvba-va-driver" - is that also installed?
[08:36] <marvin-hh> bekks: I provided proof as to why it is reasonable to expect that it doesn't do this.
[08:37] <bekks> marvin-hh: I already told you why apt-get replaces dependencies for fulfilling dependemcies.
[08:37] <marvin-hh> bekks: you have not provided a shred of evidence for your point.
[08:37] <user3> in cheome the same thing
[08:37] <marvin-hh> bekks: you only said stuff without references to the manpage.
[08:37] <marvin-hh> bekks: and that means, I am sorry, nothing.
[08:37] <bekks> marvin-hh: You did not prove anything until now, expect wild assumptions how a package manager should work regardless of that would break the package management system.
[08:38] <TJ-> L4DD2: EFI SP must be unencrypted, but you can encrypt /boot/ if you use "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in "/etc/default/grub"
[08:38] <bekks> marvin-hh: So I am resting your case, since it seems - to me - that your whole point is just ranting.
[08:38] <eeee> marvin-hh: read man apt-get
[08:38] <marvin-hh> bekks: I am very happy that you are trying to help me, but I did indicate that in the remove section it doesn't say anything about installing packages.
[08:38] <eeee> the "-f" section
[08:38] <eeee> If packages are
[08:38] <eeee>            specified, these have to completely correct the problem. The option
[08:38] <eeee>            is sometimes necessary when running APT for the first time; APT
[08:38] <eeee>            itself does not allow broken package dependencies to exist on a
[08:38] <eeee>            system.
[08:39] <marvin-hh> eeee: the -f section should be unrelated, since I am not giving that option.
[08:39] <eeee> they aren't going to explain the whole function of a program in a section of an option marvin-hh
[08:39] <marvin-hh> bekks: all I have asked for is a reference to a line of text from that man page.
[08:40] <marvin-hh> bekks: you have not been able to provide that.
[08:40] <L4DD2> TJ-: To boot the system you need kernel image and initramfs. Is that possible if /boot is encrypted? For understanding...
[08:40] <Gatis> Im using OpenBox
[08:40] <bekks> marvin-hh: I am resting your case for the reasons above.
[08:40] <Gatis> But some stuff doesnt work
[08:40] <TJ-> marvin-hh: Please answer the constructive questions instead of ranting - is the package  "xvba-va-driver" installed?
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: this is not ranting.
[08:40] <TJ-> L4DD2: EFI SP must be unencrypted, >>>> but you can encrypt /boot/ if you use "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in "/etc/default/grub" <<<<
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I cannot use a system which doesn't do what its documentation says.
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I don't like to guess.
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I don't like to come here and ask questions.
[08:41] <marvin-hh> TJ-: so, if you can tell me why I am wrong, just show me.
[08:41] <L4DD2> TJ-: Thank you
[08:41] <Gatis> Help
[08:41] <marvin-hh> TJ-: and just saying things without a reference does not count.
[08:41] <Gatis> me
[08:41] <Gatis> OBBB
[08:41] <marvin-hh> TJ-: these are the basics of system development.
[08:41] <marvin-hh> The only way out for Ubuntu I see is opening a bug for this problem.
[08:41] <cynicallemon> Gatis: would be good if you told us what didnt work...
[08:42] <Gatis> I have some problems with OpenBox.. Help me
[08:42] <marvin-hh> The documentation is wrong or the program is.
[08:42] <Gatis> cynicallemon: i have problems with keyboard layout. don't know how to change it
[08:42] <marvin-hh> TJ-: do you find this position unreasonable? If so, please explain why.
[08:42] <eeee> marvin-hh: or the user, lets be thorough here
[08:42] <marvin-hh> eeee: you have not provided any evidence for that.
[08:43] <marvin-hh> eeee: so, let's not consider that until you do.
[08:43] <Gatis> help m
[08:45] <eeee> marvin-hh: i just thought of something, you know how they say on a poker table if you cant spot the fish, you're it? well if you cant spot the troll...
[08:45] <eeee> lol
[08:45] <Gatis> O
[08:45] <Gatis> HERE OH
[08:45] <Gatis> here me oh people
[08:46] <fkbm> trijntje: I ended up writing the normal ubuntu server to the usb which identifies the HDD as /dev/sda
[08:46] <TJ-> marvin-hh: I have logs going back a long time, and in every one you consistently rant and argue. You've spent 71 lines today so far when 5 would be more than sufficient for constructive support from volunteers here. I'm not prepared to help you in these circumstances.
[08:46] <marvin-hh> eeee: ok, so because you are not able to answer a perfectly well defined question, I am the troll?
[08:46] <marvin-hh> eeee: I consider you a troll, because you waste my time.
[08:46] <Gatis> Okay?
[08:46] <eeee> marvin-hh: you're ranting, and making no sense
[08:46] <eeee> marvin-hh: we already gave you evidence
[08:47] <marvin-hh> TJ-: and why do you think I argue?
[08:47] <bekks> marvin-hh: "Ubuntu" will not open a bug on user request, it is up to you to open up the bug if you consider it to be a bug.
[08:47] <marvin-hh> TJ-: perhaps because you people tell me I am wrong without backing it up?
[08:47] <cynicallemon> Gatis: take a look here, https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard
[08:47] <marvin-hh> TJ-: you cannot just tell me I am wrong and expect that to be the end of it.
[08:48] <Beldar> marvin-hh, As a regular here, you have alienated some of the best help here, you are on your own now. ;)
[08:49] <eeee> marvin-hh: you are complaining about a program's functioning, and i think you can agree it is reasonable to function that way given it will help a user not break his system, also your claim that it is undocumented is false
[08:49] <eeee> so what's you problem?
[08:49] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I consider your behaviour to be nothing more but fleeing behaviour; the question is apparently too complex for you, so your brains make up some stupid excuse.
[08:50] <marvin-hh> eeee: you still have not provided any evidence.
[08:50] <marvin-hh> eeee: do you even know what the word means?
[08:50] <eeee> marvin-hh: man apt-get > -f section
[08:50] <marvin-hh> eeee: the -f section should not be relevant to the remove command.
[08:50] <marvin-hh> eeee: since I am not giving the -f option.
[08:51] <marvin-hh> eeee: if remove is influenced by the -f option, that should be mentioned in the remove section too.
[08:51] <freebsd> HEY FUCKHEASD
[08:51] <freebsd> FUCK FUCK FUCK HEADS
[08:51] <eeee> marvin-hh: they expect you to read it all, they actually have notes at the bottom
[08:51] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd>             ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd>           à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹
[08:52] <marvin-hh> eeee: and in fact, it's completely unrelated.
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd>           à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹
[08:52] <freebsd>                            à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[08:52] <freebsd>                            à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <trijntje> !ops
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <freebsd> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็
[08:52] <unopaste> freebsd you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:54] <marvin-hh> eeee: what's to hard with providing an exact reference?
[08:54] <marvin-hh> so*
[08:54] <marvin-hh> eeee: I will tell you; you don't actually have one.
[08:55] <marvin-hh> Wasn't this supposed to be a support channel?
[08:56] <marvin-hh> Nobody has said *anything* remotely useful.
[08:56] <bekks> You are getting personal towards people and expect support. Rethink you attitude.
[08:57] <marvin-hh> bekks: you don't get support here using any attitude.
[08:58] <marvin-hh> bekks: you should tell everyone who is not providing actual support to remain silent.
[08:58] <popey> bekks: marvin-hh can you take your argument elsewhere please.
[08:58] <marvin-hh> popey: I am not interested in any argument.
[08:59] <marvin-hh> popey: I want an answer.
[08:59] <marvin-hh> popey: and that's completely on-topic.
[08:59] <trijntje> marvin-hh: what is your question exactly?
[08:59] <popey> you've been arguing for the last 20 mins
[08:59] <marvin-hh> trijntje: you don't have a scrollback?
[08:59] <popey> is your question still "why does removing one package install another?" essentially?
[09:00] <trijntje> marvin-hh: sure, i could scroll back 30 minutes through this channel to find out, or you could just ask it again
[09:01] <eeee> marvin-hh: you are basically saying they should call this program apt-get-[or-remove] ? or put a thorough explanation of the program's functioning in the remove section ?
[09:01] <marvin-hh> trijntje, popey: based on what documentation is apt-get remove package allowed to install anything?
[09:01] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Can you provide an example of it doing so?
[09:01] <popey> marvin-hh: to fulfil other dependencies
[09:01] <marvin-hh> popey: can you please answer the question?
[09:01] <popey> if you type "aptitude why <packagename>" for the newly installed package, it will tell you why it was installed
[09:02] <marvin-hh> popey: not the question you think I asked; the actual question.
[09:02] <marvin-hh> Flannel: fglrx and fglrx-updates.
[09:02] <popey> i did
[09:02] <phunyguy> If I recall sometimes things need a certain "type" of app, like a screensaver app for example.  If you remove gnome-screensaver when you have pidgin-awayonlock, it wants to install another screensaver package.  I have seen that.
[09:02] <popey> you dont like the answer I gave, fair enough.
[09:02] <marvin-hh> popey: trust me; you did not.
[09:02] <marvin-hh> popey: no, it's not that I didn't like the answer; it's just wrong.
[09:02] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Can you please pastebin the terminal session where this happened?  You provided two package names, you didn't explain what was being removed/installed/etc.
[09:03] <marvin-hh> Flannel: apt-get remove fglrx --purge wanted to install fglrx-updates
[09:03] <popey> marvin-hh: installing foo pulls in bar or baz. If you installed foo and bar, then baz may not be installed. However if you remove bar, baz _may_ be installed to fulfill the dependency of foo
[09:03] <marvin-hh> Flannel: there is no more information to be shared.
[09:03] <marvin-hh> Flannel: and since I am now not in an X session pasting is difficult.
[09:03] <popey> marvin-hh: which release is this?
[09:03] <Flannel> marvin-hh: So, no you can't provide the session log? or no you're not willing to help us help you?
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: you are just stalling here.
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: I provided *all* relevant information.
[09:04] <Flannel> marvin-hh: No, you're just making it less likely anyone is going to answer you.
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: the output is just the standard output.
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: it lists what it is going to remove and what it is going to install with a Y/n
[09:04] <eeee> marvin-hh: pastebinit , apt-get <arguments> | pastebinit
[09:05] <phunyguy> I just said it.  Sometimes things need a certain "type" of application.  I have seen this happen.  It is intended, and harmless.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: right, so run "aptitude why fglrx-updates" and it will tell you _why_ it wants to install it (once installed)
[09:05] <marvin-hh> I am not going to paste this. This is just one of your tactics.
[09:05] <phunyguy> Oh for crying out loud.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: thats not how support works around here.
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: aptitude is unrelated to apt-get.
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: please try again.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: no, its not
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: yes, it is.
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: and it doesn't answer my question.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: "why" is a feature of aptitude that apt-get doesn't have, hence me suggesting you use it
[09:06] <trijntje> hahaha, yeah, thats one of our sneaky tactics to ......, and then profit!
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: the question is about *documented behaviour*.
[09:06] <popey> marvin-hh: the other option is you dig in files in /var/ which is unpleasant
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: it's not about what tools happen to do.
[09:06] <user-pc> hello can anyone tell me what that means and how to fix it  please?
[09:06] <user-pc> user-pc@Android:~ > popcorn-time
[09:06] <user-pc> [22059:0824/120512:INFO:CONSOLE(14)] ""Database path: /home/user-pc/.config/Popcorn-Time"", source: app://host/src/app/database.js (14)
[09:06] <user-pc> [22059:0824/120514:INFO:CONSOLE(44)] ""[%cINFO%c] Loading DB" "color: blue;" "color: black;"", source: app://host/src/app/app.js (44)
[09:06] <user-pc> ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
[09:06] <user-pc> [22097:0824/120515:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(142)] InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process
[09:06] <unopaste> user-pc you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: it's about why in the first place it is allowed to do this.
[09:06] <popey> marvin-hh: it is the basic function of apt-get to resolve dependencies
[09:06] <usr13> marvin-hh: It may not be accurate to say that they are un-related, but best to use apt-get
[09:06] <cynicallemon> marvin seems to be getting paranoid...
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> can't  install xubuntu 14.04
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wdbpro&s=8
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> using a flash drive
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: like I said: I don't care what apt-get *does*.
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> this comes after install
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: I care about why it is allowed to do it.
[09:06] <popey> marvin-hh: you do, you asked why does it do it
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: NO
[09:07] <theperfectpunk> when i press enter on install
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: and I'#m telling you how to find out
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: I did not ask that.
[09:07] <trijntje> !enter | theperfectpunk
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: you may want to reconsider your approach with regards to getting support
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: lol
[09:07] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Have a nice day.
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: bitching at us because the documentation doesn't say what you think it does isn't helpful to anyone
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: you have not provided any reference to the documentation.
[09:07] <eeee> marvin-hh: this might help, --no-remove
[09:07] <eeee>            If any packages are to be removed apt-get immediately aborts
[09:07] <eeee>            without prompting.
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: I dont need to
[09:08] <eeee> marvin-hh: try adding that, or alias apt-get='apt-get --noremove'
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: i know how aptitude and apt work, and I have told you twice why
[09:08] <Gatis> HIs OpenBox dead?
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: but you seem more intent on arguing
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: you are not even able to answer a question using the right type of response, regardless of whether or not it is correct.
[09:08] <theperfectpunk> anybody please ?
[09:08] <theperfectpunk> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wdbpro&s=8
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: I don't *care* how they work.
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: Have a nice day.
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: I care about the difference between the documentation and what they actually do.
[09:08] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: The kernel was unable to mount the root initrd by the look of the stacktrace
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: why can't you comprehend this?
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: i can
[09:09] <cynicallemon> Gatis: openbox is quite alive, if you want a ready to version of openbox then try crunchbang linux
[09:09] <marvin-hh> popey: then why are you answering as if you don't?
[09:09] <popey> marvin-hh: I refuse to get sucked into a ridiculous argument about documentation
[09:09] <user-pc> hello can anyone tell me what that means and how to fix it  please? http://pastebin.com/CFR6S6vC
[09:09] <marvin-hh> popey: it's not an argument; it's just that I am right and you don't want to admit it.
[09:09] <popey> "Why is this happening", "this is why" "NO, ANSWER ME DIFFERENTLY!"
[09:09] <popey> is ridiculous
[09:09] <marvin-hh> popey: I never asked why it is happening.
[09:09] <popey> 10:06:55 < marvin-hh> popey: I care about why it is allowed to do it.
[09:10] <popey> yes, yes you did
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> user-pc  what's the outcome of:   cat /etc/issue
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: i've installed ubuntu and gnome ubuntu before
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> that went well
[09:10] <marvin-hh> popey: yes, I asked that. That's still about documentation.
[09:10] <TJ-> I've got an ignore set, but it's pretty obvious this is classic passive-aggressive behaviour - best recourse is to stop feeding it.
[09:10] <Flannel> popey, marvin-hh: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, so we can keep this channel clear for actual technical support, thanks.
[09:10] <user-pc> Linux Mint 17 Qiana \n \l
[09:10] <marvin-hh> Flannel: this is about technical support.
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> user-pc  mint is not supported here
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: any suggestions?
[09:10] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: Does the install use a separate /boot/ partition?
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> should i try cd?
[09:11] <marvin-hh> Flannel: in this case, about why the program named apt-get doesn't work according to its documentation.
[09:11] <Flannel> marvin-hh: "about" is not technical support.  Please take it elsewhere, thanks.
[09:11] <user-pc> ok how to go where i suppose to be please ?
[09:11] <Gatis> Hey
[09:11] <trijntje> !mint
[09:11] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: i haven't specified the parameters
[09:11] <Gatis> What Window manager do you people suggest for slow PC?
[09:11] <marvin-hh> Flannel: documentation of a specific core tool is on-topic.
[09:11] <usr13> marvin-hh: What is your problem?  (Maybe I can help.)
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  lxde or xfce, or openbox or fluxbox
[09:11] <trijntje> you cant, because he doesn't want help
[09:11] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Yes, but if you refuse to provide any real information, you are not interested in obtaining support, therefore, it's offtopic.
[09:11] <marvin-hh> usr13: can you read a question? (Nobody else before was able to do that)
[09:11] <user-pc> yes but i have no idea how to go there  i use first time
[09:12] <usr13> marvin-hh: Never mind.
[09:12] <cynicallemon> Gatis: using the command line is pretty fast as a file manager
[09:12] <marvin-hh> usr13: disappointing.
[09:12] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: This kind of kernel panic usually occurs because the initrd.img (initial RAM disk image) wasn't correctly built, and that usually happens due to an out-of-disk-space issue, which usually happens due to the /boot/ file-system becoming full. It is also possible that the building of the initrd.img failed for some other reason during installation.
[09:12] <marvin-hh> Flannel: I provided all the real information.
[09:12] <user-pc> #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[09:13] <marvin-hh> Flannel: in fact, you should be able to see these reverse dependencies somewhere yourself too.
[09:13] <usr13> Is marvin-hh 32bit or 64bit?
[09:13] <popey> marvin-hh: you can, rdepends.
[09:13] <user-pc> how to go to mint 17 channel please? anyone
[09:13] <Gatis> cynicallemon: is there any window manager like openbox which is under active development? Simple and clean.
[09:13] <marvin-hh> Flannel: heck, you can even assume that there are such reverse dependencies.
[09:14] <phunyguy> user-pc: it is on a completely separate network
[09:14] <Gatis> user-pc: there is no mint channel on this server
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> user-pc  go to the linuxmint website, click Community > Cummunty > Chatroom
[09:14] <Flannel> user-pc: You need to connect to irc.spotchat.org (a different network), then join #linuxmint-help
[09:14] <marvin-hh> Flannel: the details of which are *irrelevant* to my question.
[09:14] <marvin-hh> Flannel: however, you apparently fail to comprehend that or you are just trolling.
[09:14] <Gatis> Why Linux Mint is not on this network?
[09:14] <eeee> user-pc: type /server irc.spotchat.org
[09:14] <popey> Gatis: ask them.
[09:14] <Flannel> marvin-hh: The details are a sanity check that people are all on the same page.  This is 100% normal operation for almost every support interface.
[09:14] <eeee> user-pc: then type /join #linuxmint-help
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> !coffee
[09:14] <Gatis> LinuxMint don't like Freenode?
[09:14] <marvin-hh> Flannel: you are just making excuses.
[09:14] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: i used the usual Universal USB Installer to create bootable usb
[09:14] <bekks> Gatis: BEcause they decided to use another network for creating their support channel.
[09:15] <anon> ?
[09:15] <popey> Gatis: ask them, not us.
[09:15] <Gatis> bekks: that's doesn't tell anything
[09:15] <Gatis> popey: ok
[09:15] <Gatis> ill go ask :)
[09:15] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: the only thing that is different this time is that i'm using cruzer blade
[09:15] <bekks> Gatis: Yeah, because no one besides them knows ;)
[09:15] <theperfectpunk1> which shows itself as fixed drive
[09:15] <theperfectpunk1> instead of removable
[09:15] <maverick_> problems with caffeine?
[09:16] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: Are you sure it hasn't run out of space for the root-file system (if that contains /boot/) ? I'm focusing on space since it is the cause 95% of the time
[09:17] <maverick_> caffeine won't work ubuntu 14.04
[09:17] <Gatis> What is caffeine?
[09:18] <Marie> bjr
[09:18] <maverick_> apps disable blank screen saver
[09:18] <bekks> maverick_: It does for me. Can you elaborate "wont work" a bit further please?
[09:18] <Marie> je n'arrive pas à me connecter sur skype qlq'un pourrait m'aider s'il vous plait
[09:19] <Marie> ????
[09:19] <bekks> !info kaffeine | Gatis
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[09:19] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: My partiton table http://tinypic.com/m/iee1kx/2
[09:19] <theperfectpunk1> m trying to boot from UUI
[09:20] <maverick_> I have installed the ppa: when try to open it's say locale error how can i fixed this issue
[09:20] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: used ext2mgr to mount ext3 partitions which don't have labels
[09:20] <Gatis> OKAY!
[09:21] <root> hi
[09:21] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: So Disk 1 is the USB ?
[09:21] <Guest82896> ?
[09:21] <Guest82896> ????
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest82896  it works, we see you
[09:22] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: Disk 3 is the usb flash drive
[09:22] <theperfectpunk1> m gonna install ubuntu on Disk 1
[09:23] <Gatis> HELLO PEOPLE!
[09:23] <mediKanteMK> Ciao!
[09:23] <mediKanteMK> list
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> !list > mediKanteMK
[09:24] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: To be clear, you've installed Xubuntu to Disk 1 from an installer ISO image on Disk 3?
[09:25] <maverick_> Gatis: Do u have any recomendation for caffeine?
[09:27] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: i have an iso image on Disk 0, with which i created a bootable usb flash drive Disk 3 using Universal USB Installer to install xUbuntu on Disk 1
[09:27] <Gatis> maverick_: yes
[09:27] <eeee> marvin-hh: i dont want to start anything here, but please read man apt-get you will find everything you wanted in the install section, remove section states it is identical  to install, except it removes, there is the feature that you want too in the install section, last couple sentences of the first paragraph These latter features may be used to override decisions made by apt-get's conflict resolution system. CHEERS
[09:27] <Flannel> eeee: Let it go.
[09:27] <Gatis> maverick_: too much coffeine is bad for health
[09:27] <eeee> Flannel: i was being constructive only
[09:28] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: Thanks :) And so the installer completed and you get this panic when the freshly built installation on Disk 1 tries to start?
[09:28] <Flannel> eeee: I understand, but just drop it for the future, I think that'd be best.
[09:28] <eeee> Flannel: that was my last sentence
[09:28] <Flannel> eeee: We fully appreciate your support. :)
[09:28] <eeee> thanks
[09:28] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: no, this occurs when i try to boot from the bootable usb Disk 3
[09:29] <cynicallemon> maverick_: you want an alternative to caffeine?
[09:29] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: Oh! that means the image is damaged
[09:29] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: but i downloaded from xubuntu wiki
[09:29] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: First thing to check is that the cryptogaphic hash of the ISO image matches that listed on the download web site page
[09:29] <theperfectpunk1> i should check the hash for my ISO i think?
[09:30] <theperfectpunk1> yea ok :-)
[09:30] <maverick_> cynicallemon: pls I'd like that recommedation
[09:30] <cynicallemon> maverick_: what about vlc?
[09:31] <maverick_> there's a feature in that specific apps?
[09:31] <marvin-hh> eeee: I still do not agree this answers the question. There is little point in continuing this.
[09:31] <cynicallemon> maverick_: feature, what feature?
[09:31] <maverick_> to disable screensaver
[09:32] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: the hash matches
[09:32] <theperfectpunk1> i think i should try a different usb installer
[09:32] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: So the image must have failed to write to the target device correctly then
[09:33] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: yea, m trying to do it with RMprepusb now
[09:33] <theperfectpunk1> do you know the parameters?
[09:33] <cynicallemon> maverick_: vlc has a disable screensaver function
[09:33] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: Not something I ever use; I always work from deboostrap
[09:34] <cynicallemon> maverick_: plus being Qt based it will fit in nicely with a KDE system
[09:38] <maverick_> cynicallemon: appreciated i got fixed thanks for you help saved my life
[09:38] <cynicallemon> maverick_: i think you can also use "xset s on[off]" to disable/enable screensaver function
[09:38] <cynicallemon> maverick_: you're welcome
[09:56] <badideaman> I'm not sure where to post this, but I've run into a bit of trouble.   I ran gparted, and deleted a partition on /dev/sda rather than /dev/sdb. sda was where I happened to have my current installation of Ubuntu. I'm trying to run testdisk to recover. Is anyone familiar with partition recovery?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[09:57] <badideaman> did you read what I typed?
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !recover | badideaman,
[09:57] <badideaman> this is LVM2.
[10:00] <Welastevil> hi
[10:01] <Welastevil> some sites in some videos asking me to instal flash if I wanna watch it...
[10:01] <Welastevil> even using chrome
[10:01] <Welastevil> more over, I already install flashplayer...
[10:01] <Welastevil> why may it happens?
[10:03] <badideaman> Welastevil, try going to http://youtube.com/html5  in Chrome. Are all of the options available to you?
[10:04] <Welastevil> hii dont know
[10:04] <Welastevil> i don know
[10:05] <Welastevil> in youtube I can see every video, but not in russian channel, 1kanal
[10:06] <badideaman> Welastevil, reread that. Go to the link I typed.
[10:06] <badideaman> Are all of those options listed on the page available?
[10:11] <Qwertie> Hi :)
[10:12] <RaccoonCity_> Test
[10:12] <RaccoonCity_> Hello guys
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[10:18] <cfhowlett> welastevil ONLY russian youtube is blocked?  check your government
[10:18] <cfhowlett> freecharge, get your spam out of here.
[10:19] <freecharge> *freecharge dies...!!
[10:19] <nydel> is anyone using systemd in place of upstart on 14.04?
[10:21] <freecharge> Get 50 rupees cashback on recharge of rupees 50 using this promo code FCREFQMTJD6S4 on freecharge.in
[10:21] <cfhowlett> popey, tyvm
[10:25] <ibr4h1m> Hey
[10:25] <ibr4h1m> Need help
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !ask + ibr4h1m
[10:26] <ljunggren> !help + ibr4h1m
[10:26] <ljunggren> !question + ibr4h1m
[10:26] <ibr4h1m> how to setup chroot environment in ubuntu 12.04 for python
[10:26] <ljunggren> very good bot
[10:26] <popey> its | not + you use with the bot
[10:26] <ljunggren> !ask | ibr4h1m
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !ask | ibr4h1m
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !ask | ibr4h1m
[10:27]  * cfhowlett thinks ubottu is sleeping
[10:27] <ljunggren> popey: stupid me, thanks.
[10:27] <cfhowlett> ibr4h1m, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:27] <Novice201y> Hello. How can I resize .jpg without opening it (it's very large)?
[10:27] <popey> Novice201y: imagemagick can do that.. "convert -resize 1024x768 foo.jpg resized.jpg"
[10:29] <flux242> hi, I'm trying to update packages and I receive - W: GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:29] <cfhowlett> flux242, gotta update the signing key
[10:30] <cfhowlett> flux242, happens quite often
[10:30] <bazhang> !gpgerr
[10:30] <flux242> I'v already run apt-key adv --recv-keys .. and it didn't help
[10:31] <bazhang> what was the exact full command flux242
[10:31] <marvin-hh> How can I completely disable the radeon driver? I don't want it to be loaded in the first place. I added install radeon /bin/false to blacklist.conf but that didn't have any effect.
[10:32] <Qwertie> Is anyone else having problems with rhythmbox? It keeps freezing for me.
[10:32] <marvin-hh> I also wrote a line blacklist radeon, but it still gets loaded.
[10:32] <flux242> I also tried to apt-get clean and removing /var/lib/apt/list and then update again - didn't help
[10:32] <marvin-hh> Googling for radeon only gives me spam on how to install radeon, not how to get rid of it.
[10:32] <flux242> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:33] <Novice201y> popey: Thank You
[10:33] <popey> Novice201y: no problem
[10:34] <flux242> It worked a week ago and I didn't add a repo or install anything new since then
[10:34] <popey> flux242: we sometimes update the keys on the server
[10:34] <cfhowlett> flux242, not your fault.  keys change frequently
[10:34] <flux242> popey: thank you very much. HOw do I fix not my fault?
[10:35] <popey> flux242: usually just doing an "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will pull the new one down for next time
[10:35] <popey> i have never had to do the --recv-keys dance for the official archive keys
[10:35] <eeee> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:36] <eeee> ( @ flux242 )
[10:36] <eeee> try that
[10:36] <eeee> ( i think you got the args mixed up )
[10:36] <flux242> eeee: ok, i'll try it
[10:37] <eeee> hmm, just saw the !factoid , nevermind, if you want give it a shot who knows though
[10:38] <flux242> nope, still the same error
[10:39] <eeee> flux242: try to build the software cache, sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.backup;  sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt -p lists/partial; sudo apt-get update
[10:40] <flux242> are gpg's wrong on the server?
[10:40] <popey> flux242: can you pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update" please?
[10:40] <bazhang> flux242, I would try popey's solution first
[10:40] <flux242> I won't do dist-upgrade
[10:41] <mintgreen> here is the last lines of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1' , http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this?
[10:41] <bazhang> flux242, it's NOT a version upgrade
[10:41] <eeee> flux242: dist-upgrade is only for packages not the release
[10:41] <cfhowlett> flux242, dist-upgrade is one of the most useful commands - it'll bring 14.04 to 14.04.1
[10:42] <flux242> I'm fine with the current set of packages
[10:42] <eeee> flux242: try a different server
[10:42] <popey> flux242: it doesn't upgrade from trusty to another release
[10:42] <popey> flux242: it just updates what you have installed and pulls in whatever else is needed by those updates
[10:42] <flux242> what the diff then between update and dist-upgrade?
[10:43] <popey> flux242: update - update local list of packages (no packages actually upgraded)
[10:43] <popey> flux242: upgrade - upgrade packages that are already installed to any new releases in the archive (upgrades packages)
[10:43] <cfhowlett> flux242, update updates your LIST of packages.  dist-upgrade upgrades your OS packages
[10:43] <flux242> I usually do update and then upgrade
[10:43] <flux242> no dist-upgrade
[10:43] <cfhowlett> flux242, your loss
[10:43] <popey> flux242: dist-uprade upgrade packages that are already installed and will install additional packages if new versions of those packages upgraded are required (upgrades packages & may install new things)
[10:44] <popey> you should dist-upgrade
[10:44] <eeee> flux242: dist-upgrade is like upgrade but with more perks, so to speak
[10:44] <popey> flux242: dist-upgrade will _not_ upgrade (for example) 14.04 to 14.10
[10:45] <eeee> it's allowed to do stuff upgrade can't, that's all
[10:45] <Ionut_> Hello there, anyone online ? i need some help with ubuntu & a pc
[10:45] <flux242> never had any problem with upgrade
[10:45] <popey> Ionut_: yes.
[10:45] <eeee> flux242: did upgrade ever mention ..bla bla bla packages were held back?
[10:45] <eeee> that's when dist-upgrade comes
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:45] <flux242> of course, my kernel is kept back
[10:45] <popey> flux242: its not that upgrade has problems, but dist-upgrade is preferable generally
[10:46] <flux242> for a reason
[10:46] <popey> flux242: why do you want to keep your kernel back?
[10:46] <faLUCE> hello, what's the best way to have linux on my nexus7 2013 tablet? I tried ubuntu touch but the version for my model (deb) is very unstable and buggy....
[10:46] <eeee> ^^
[10:46] <popey> flux242: it's not finished yet, I'd wait till later in the year
[10:46] <popey> oops, that was for faLUCE
[10:46] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, touch is still pre-release.  wait.
[10:47] <Ionut_> popey: I have this emachines e440 and running (when worked) ubuntu 12.10. runned smoothly, but suddenly stopped (everything turned off). when i try to turn it back on, everything works (fans, also cpu i belive, hard disk everything) but the screen is all black. Can you tell me some opinions?
[10:47] <teololtoy> stupid to use 12.10, it's not a LTS release
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, check your GPU card.
[10:47] <popey> teololtoy: now now, we don't call our users stupid
[10:47] <cfhowlett> teololtoy, "stupid" is not helpful ...
[10:47] <faLUCE> popey: cfhowlett what about installing linux on android?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, 12.10 is end of life and no longer supported.  once you sort your graphics situation, you should upgrade to a supported version: 14.04 currently
[10:48] <popey> Ionut_: 12.10 is no longer supported, which doesn't help you right now, but just FYI
[10:48] <Ionut_> cfhowlett: well, i tried with a VGA cable to connect it to another monitor, also i tried with a HDMI cable. nothing works. is that the proplem.
[10:48] <popey> faLUCE: i haven't tried that, I dont run android really.
[10:48] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, ask www.xdadevelopers.com          about that
[10:49] <popey> Ionut_: tricky, did it work previously? what changed? (you did updates?)
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, no video output?  sounds like a failed gpu card
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, if you dual boot, try windows.  or try hooking the monitor up to a different computer to eliminate the monitor as a fault.
[10:49] <faLUCE> is there an irc channel for xda?
[10:49] <flux242> here's the full output http://pastebin.com/zDeyVRcr
[10:49] <RaccoonCity_> Is there an directory for the terminal?
[10:50] <RaccoonCity_> Like in the filesystem
[10:50] <Ionut_> popey: it worked previously, no updates. had this problem before, but i tried to turn it on again and it worked. it sounds really like a graphic card problem.  cfhowlett i can't dual boot, haven't windows on it and can't see anything on pc. any of u know if i can update the graphics card (change it)
[10:50] <popey> Ionut_: one way to test would be to boot off a live cd / usb
[10:51] <Ionut_> so you guys think i should try another graphic card, but may i ask: can i change it on this pc
[10:51] <popey> Ionut_: if you still have the problem then it could be a hardware issue
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, desktop?  pull that sucker and replace.  laptop?  depends.
[10:51] <teololtoy> Ionut_: why are you using a non-LTS release?
[10:51] <TJ-> flux242: The signature is bad "gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012) <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"   "
[10:52] <flux242> yeah, i've already noticed that signature is bad
[10:52] <TJ-> flux242: The main archive is fine: "gpg: Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012) <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>""
[10:52] <Ionut_> teololtoy: runnes better on this, i am a student and don't need more than i had. popey i belive is the graphics card fault. cfhowlett is a laptop. i can't find nothing about on internet. if i'll find that i can't switch with another graphic card ill do it now. i can buy a cheap one.
[10:52] <TJ-> flux242: Ergo, there's either a mirror compromise or corruption; either way, alert the mirror owners
[10:52] <popey> flux242: did you run the apt-key under sudo?
[10:53] <Ionut_> i will also update to last ubuntu  version --version
[10:53] <flux242> yes
[10:53] <TJ-> popey: They key is in the standard Ubuntu apt key-ring
[10:53] <popey> TJ-: I know ☻
[10:53] <popey> flux242: i still maintain that update / dist-upgrade would make this go away ☻
[10:54] <TJ-> flux242: I'm testing other mirrors; so far only de. fails the signature
[10:54] <popey> flux242: you could switch to another mirror, like the main archive, as a test
[10:54] <flux242> i need my kernel version intact
[10:54] <TJ-> popey: Test the signature - it fails for everyone, the signature is bad
[10:56] <TJ-> There doesn't appear to the an archive-sync in progress either; there's no stamp file in the root to indicate it
[10:57] <Novice201y> Hello. I used to use Flash for Ubuntu 10.x from Adobe's site and it was good, but then I installed Ubuntu restricted extras and I think that quality for 720p on Youtube is lower than before. How can I undo this changes?
[10:58] <TJ-> flux242: which mirror are you hitting, what does this report "dig +short de.archive.ubuntu.com" ?
[10:59] <Ionut_> should i install ubuntu on a asus u36sg with intel i7 , 8gb of ram, 1gb nvidia gt 710m that runess windows 8.1 and battery lasts 11 hours ?
[10:59] <TJ-> flux242: See the list of "Germany" mirrors here. Using the IP your hitting we should be able to isolate the operator: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, purge the last flashplugin-installer and install your plugin of choice.
[10:59] <flux242> TJ-: ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de.
[10:59] <flux242> 141.30.13.20
[10:59] <flux242> 141.30.13.30
[10:59] <flux242> 141.30.13.10
[10:59] <TJ-> flux242: Same as me then, and I see the same bad sig
[11:00] <TJ-> flux242: Both the Releases and Releases.gpg for trusty-backports have diffs against the main archive
[11:00] <eeee> yeah i just tried us.archive archive and de.archive
[11:01] <eeee> it starts going off at universe/binary
[11:01] <flux242> are they out of sync or compromised?
[11:01] <TJ-> flux242: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/de.archive.ubuntu.com-archive
[11:01] <TJ-> flux242: I'm not sure, I'm going to compare the sigs for the other pockets first
[11:04] <faLUCE> I don't undarstand if I have alternatives to ubuntu touch for my nexus 7 2013 |deb| tablet... Should I install something like "linuxonandroid" ? what do you suggest?
[11:04] <TJ-> flux242: It seems to be only the trusty-backports
[11:05] <Je9> Hi. If Secure Boot is active - can I boot Knoppix?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Je9, ask the #knoppix channel - not supported here.
[11:06] <flux242> TJ-: yep, without them update is clean
[11:06] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, ask the #nexus channel
[11:16] <zj> anybody？
[11:17] <popey> !ask | zj
[11:25] <Edico> hi
[11:25] <expunge> hi ed
[11:26] <Edico> how do I open the update window, I want to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 and I can't find the update window for upgrade to a new release
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Edico, you can use the terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:28] <popey> Edico: if you want the window, update-manager is the graphical tool
[11:28] <Edico> thank you
[11:28] <popey> np
[11:32] <joseph> hello
[11:34] <expunge> hi joseph
[11:34] <joseph> ve installed lubuntu
[11:35] <expunge> joseph: righto
[11:35] <deanrock0> hi, i upgraded 13.10 to 14.04 and now I cannot get internet connection to work ... ifup eth0 says "cannot find device eth0", any idea what could be wrong?
[11:36] <sakamop> Does SLI work properly in Ubuntu? I am getting a black screen instead of the lightdm login screen when the second card (identical to the first) is installed. (It boots fine up to that point).
[11:38] <popey> deanrock0: is it a desktop or server (i.e. does it have a graphical environment or is it text only) ?
[11:38] <deanrock0> popey: server without graphical env
[11:40] <popey> deanrock0: is the card listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:41] <deanrock0> popey: it is, it has a static config
[11:41] <Vai> help please
[11:42] <Vai> while installing a znc in my znc root i got this msgs :( znc is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:42] <Kris545545> He's asking for help to add the user "znc" to the sudoers file
[11:43] <Vai> yes right Kris545545
[11:44] <bekks> the user znc should not have sudo capabilities for security reasons.
[11:44] <bekks> what are you trying as user "znc" which needs sudo?
[11:44] <Kris545545> Download znc
[11:45] <bekks> Kris545545: you dont need sudo for znc then. Just use your "normal" administrative user for installing software as usual.
[11:45] <popey> deanrock0: does "ifconfig" list the interface?
[11:46] <Kris545545> He's got it working now
[11:46] <deanrock0> popey: no
[11:47] <popey> deanrock0: does "dmesg | grep eth0" list it?
[11:48] <deanrock0> yes
[11:48] <deanrock0> popey: it also says something along the lines "renamed network interface eth0 to em1"
[11:48] <popey> deanrock0: aha!
[11:49] <popey> deanrock0: so thats the new naming scheme
[11:51] <deanrock0> popey: didn't expect that it would rename interfaces on upgrade ... anyway em1 isnt listed on ifconfig and ifup em1 returns "unknown interface em1=em1"
[11:51] <popey> deanrock0: maybe you need to add a stanza for em1 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:52] <popey> deanrock0: alternatively you can disable the renaming by adding biosdevname=0 to your grub config
[11:52] <deanrock0> popey: it works, thanks so much
[12:03] <root> hi
[12:03] <expunge> hi root
[12:10] <popey> deanrock0: sweet!
[12:18] <thecha> how do i create a live usb but instead of pristine ubuntu 12 with the personalized version of ubuntu 12 thatis on my desktop pc
[12:18] <thecha> liek with all the chanegs liek added software and files
[12:18] <thecha> ?
[12:18] <thecha> pls hlp
[12:19] <thecha> omg pls halp
[12:25] <zum> Hi! Why my laptop doesn't shutdown when I click to shutdown and after that I close the lid of laptop. It goes to hibernate state instead. I have to wait to shutdown then I can close lid. I use xubuntu
[12:31] <havarka> zum you can change that in settings, what computer should do after pressing shutdown or after closing lid, something like power settings
[12:31] <havarka> zum1
[12:31] <deepblue> here is the tail of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1', http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this?
[12:33] <zum1> havarka I have some options in my system settings. I set it correctly but nothing works
[12:33] <havarka> zum1 dont know then, sry
[12:34] <zum1> Ok, thank you. On Mint xfce I didn't have problems.
[12:34] <yossarianuk>  hi - I am tring to use a 2nd GPU on my Desktop - as well as my normal GPU (Nvidia) I would like to use the motherboards built in one (intel) - how do I go about do this ? t present I have the Nvidia going to a DVI connection (my main monitor)
[12:34] <yossarianuk> and the 2nd monitor going to the intel integrated GPU   the nvidia GPU is seeing my deskop - the 2nd GPU has the kubuntu logo.  this may also help
[12:34] <yossarianuk>  xrandr --listproviders  shows
[12:34] <yossarianuk> Provider 0: id: 0x2b5 cap: 0x1, Source Output crtcs: 2 outputs: 4 associated providers: 0 name:NVIDIA-0
[12:35] <yossarianuk> Provider 1: id: 0x49 cap: 0x2, Sink Output crtcs: 4 outputs: 6 associated providers: 0 name:Intel
[12:35] <thecha> how do i create a live usb but instead of pristine ubuntu 12 with the personalized version of ubuntu 12 thatis on my desktop pc
[12:35] <thecha> liek with all the chanegs liek added software and files
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> thecha: unetbootin can be used with your own ISO if you wish
[12:36] <thecha> what the hell is unetbootin?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> thecha: or you can use dd to put the ISO on the device
[12:36] <thecha> what in the world is dd?
[12:37] <thecha> sorry i am unfamilair with this
[12:37] <thecha> :(
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> thecha: why dont you find out for yourself?
[12:37] <thecha> ok :(
[12:37] <dunderburken> hi, any NAS-guru here?
[12:39] <TJ-> yossarianuk: You'll need to configure an additional X session to use the 2nd GPU
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> dunderburken: ask and see :-)
[12:40] <thecha> ActionParsnip→ i will now install the ubetonit from repository
[12:40] <deepblue> here is the tail of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1', http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this?
[12:42] <thecha> ActionParsnip → unetbootin doesnt work with my i386 what to do?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> thecha: of course it works with i386
[12:43] <thecha> it says it doesnt
[12:43] <WoAyumi> hi
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> thecha: where did you read that?
[12:43] <thecha> there is a pop up window when i am trying to install
[12:43] <thecha> i was adding it with the add software thingy
[12:43] <thecha> from the repository
[12:44] <thecha> then a popup apeared
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> thecha: yes, what page is that from...?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> thecha: news to me, never had an issue....
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> thecha: then use dd, the newer ubuntu versions are hybrid and this works
[12:51] <TinyBuster> hi
[12:51] <TinyBuster> does anyone here ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> TinyBuster: yes
[12:52] <evilop> TinyBuster: no we does not
[12:53] <TinyBuster> so why do you answers me ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> TinyBuster: you havent asked one, as far as my client shows
[12:54] <atsauhk> msg
[12:54] <TinyBuster> how can I ask one ?
[12:55] <yossarianuk> TJ: thanks - don't suppose you know of any examples  / guides?
[12:56] <yossarianuk> i.e is this controlled via xorg.conf ?
[12:56] <Vai> why when im trying to connect my new znc even the website of my znc says this: * Unable to connect to server (Connection timed out)
[12:56] <Vai> and my root is up and nothing installed on it only the znc clients
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> TinyBuster: just type it
[12:56] <Vai> any help?
[12:58] <TJ-> yossarianuk: Yes, you'll need an additional 'Screen' and 'Driver' section in xorg.conf, and a 'Layout' section that describes both Screen sections
[12:58] <TinyBuster> how can I see chanel available in freenod ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Vai: ,may help https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[12:58] <Vai> ActionParsnip, thx
[12:58] <simion314> hi all, I am on 12.04 , a week or two ago my built in audio card disapeared from pavucontrol listing, (it appeared once back but now I can't make it appear). It works on Windows(dual booting for gaming) anyu ideas?
[12:58] <yossarianuk> TJ: thank you - will try it out (at present I have no xorg.conf)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !alis | TinyBuster
[13:00] <evilop> simion314: does it show in lspci?
[13:00] <TJ-> yossarianuk: "Xorg -configure" should generate a default xorg.conf that you can adjust for what you want
[13:00] <yossarianuk> cheers !
[13:00] <ThePadawan> hi guys, wrote a batch script that reads a file line for line, but it's off by one, it doesn't does the last one => code (http://paste.ubuntu.com/8130431/)
[13:02] <TJ-> ThePadawan: the input file doesn't have a linefeed for the last line
[13:02] <TinyBuster> LIST
[13:02] <TinyBuster> Oh sorry
[13:02] <ThePadawan> TJ-: pardon me?
[13:03] <ThePadawan> TJ-: you mean a \n
[13:04] <TJ-> ThePadawan: Yes
[13:04] <ThePadawan> TJ-: k thnx
[13:06] <TinyBuster> LIST [freenod]
[13:09] <stangeland> Hello, i am trying to run sudo apt-get update but for some reason its not working...i am getting the following errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131072/
[13:10] <stangeland> anybpdy?
[13:10] <eeee> stangeland: you're running ubuntu 13.10, which is eol (no support anymore), you can either upgrade or modify the sources.list
[13:11] <stangeland> eeee, aha. so they already cut all support to 13.10
[13:11] <stangeland> its not even 1 year old
[13:11] <eeee> stangeland: non-lts releases are supported for 9 months
[13:11] <llorephie> Looks like simply broken ._.
[13:12] <eeee> ( lts are supported for 5 years)
[13:12] <stangeland> oh...thats not a lot...ok.... so after 9 months they just remove the repos and you are screwed until you update?
[13:12] <evilop> stangeland: sounds reasonably to me
[13:13] <eeee> stangeland: you can modify the sources.list , you just need to modify no.archive.ubuntu.com to no.old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:13] <eeee> updating would be better though
[13:13] <stangeland> i see....i am running a git repository and a wiki server on apache on this 13.10 machine. is it safe to upgrade it directly yo 14.04 ?
[13:13] <waterloo2005> I can NOT install ipython3-notebook in 12.04.5 amd64. It says "ipython3-notebook: Depends: ipython3 (=0.13.2-1~ubuntu12.04.2) but 0.12.1+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed". How to do with it? Thanks
[13:13] <eeee> (upgrading)
[13:15] <Guest92254> I just upgraded and I cannot get modules to load with the right settings or make xrandr modes save for next boot. Help is greatly appreciated
[13:15] <stangeland> i see....i am running a git repository and a wiki server on apache on this 13.10 machine. is it safe to upgrade it directly yo 14.04 ?
[13:15] <llorephie> Yes.
[13:16] <stangeland> how do i upgrade it to 14.04?
[13:16] <llorephie> Can you show /etc/apt/sources.list?
[13:16] <stangeland> without loosing data and functionality
[13:16] <llorephie> In /etc/sources.list replace all saucy with trusty
[13:16] <stangeland> here it as: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131136/
[13:16] <ikonia> no
[13:17] <llorephie> But if it is broken - it will not work
[13:17] <ikonia> do not modify sources.list like that
[13:17] <ikonia> do not change distros in sources.list
[13:17] <llorephie> Mm?
[13:17] <stangeland> llorephie, its not broken...it used to work just fine until now suddently
[13:17] <llorephie> In debian workd...
[13:17] <ikonia> llorephie: you are not using debian
[13:17] <Guest92254> I can't find my xorg.conf :( big deal!
[13:17] <ikonia> there should be no reason to change the distros in sources.list - do not do this
[13:18] <ikonia> Guest92254: xorg does not use xorg.conf by default, if you want to hard code options you have to make the file
[13:18] <stangeland> ikonia, okay  - is there a better way?
[13:18] <ikonia> stangeland: what exactly are you trying to do (I'm missing part of the conversation)
[13:18] <Guest92254> Okay, thank. thats what I figured actually. But apparently I have to do this, as I need it to add certain options for usbhid and xrandr
[13:18] <stangeland> ikonia, i just want my system to work...suddently i cannot do apt-get update...apparantly because its no longer supported :/ its 1310
[13:19] <faLUCE> hello. A buggy program messed up some system files and now, when I try to exec sshfs, it says "fusermount: failed to chdir to mountpoint: Permission denied", and I'm forced to exec the command as root. how can I solve? thanks
[13:19] <Guest92254> "xorg.conf" in /X11/, correct?
[13:19] <ikonia> stangeland: ok, so what you need to do is either a.) upgrade to a supported version b.) clean install a supported version c.) point your sources.list at the old-release archive and continue unsupported
[13:19] <ikonia> Guest92254: correct
[13:19] <ikonia> stangeland: which option sounds best for you ?
[13:19] <ikonia> faLUCE: what "buggy program"
[13:19] <ikonia> faLUCE: what "system files"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: is the folder marked as executable?
[13:20] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: which folder?
[13:20] <stangeland> ikonia, clean install is not an option atm. upgrade would be best...but im afraid if that will give me functionality and ultimately dataloss ? So i guess only option c remains?
[13:20] <ikonia> stangeland: ok, so it's that simple, as your release is EOL - the repos get moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <faLUCE> ikonia: 1) autosshfs (some rubbish that I found on github) 2) don't know which files
[13:21] <ikonia> faLUCE: so how are you telling me it's messed up system files if you don't know what it's done
[13:21] <stangeland> ikonia, i see. so i update the sources list with that?
[13:21] <ikonia> stangeland: exactly
[13:21] <ikonia> stangeland: but on the same distro
[13:21] <faLUCE> ikonia: exactly
[13:21] <ikonia> faLUCE: exactly what ?
[13:21] <ikonia> faLUCE: you're saying "it's updated system files" - yet you have no idea if it's updated system files/what it's odne
[13:21] <ikonia> done
[13:22] <stangeland> ikonia, yes ok i understand. so eg.  deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy multiverse becomes deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy multiverse  ?
[13:22] <ikonia> stangeland: you got it
[13:22] <stangeland> right. ill try it
[13:22] <stangeland> thank you
[13:22] <faLUCE> ikonia: I don't know what files are messed. I only know that I receive that msg
[13:22] <eeee> faLUCE: when doing what?
[13:22] <ikonia> faLUCE: right, so it's possibly not touched system files
[13:22] <ikonia> faLUCE: best to say "I dont know" rather than make something up
[13:23] <llorephie> Hmm, on RU and CS mirrors all stayed as it was.. :)
[13:23] <ikonia> llorephie: what ?
[13:23] <faLUCE> eeee: eeee: hello. A buggy program messed up some system files and now, when I try to exec sshfs, it says "fusermount: failed to chdir to mountpoint: Permission denied", and I'm forced to exec the command as root. how can I solve? thanks
[13:23] <atsauhk> does anyone know the syntax for cloaking?
[13:23] <ikonia> eeee: he has no idea what it's done - yet keeps insisting it's messed up system files
[13:23] <stangeland> ikonia, ick that did not solve it :/
[13:23] <ikonia> eeee: it's not messed up system files
[13:23] <llorephie> ikonia: with sausy support
[13:23] <ikonia> eeee: I advise caution on the info
[13:24] <ikonia> stangeland: what's the current error ?
[13:24] <ikonia> stangeland: (use a pastebin if you need to)
[13:24] <stangeland> ikonia, this is my current sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131207/
[13:24] <faLUCE> ikonia: sshfs worked well without asking root privileges until I installed that program
[13:24] <ikonia> stangeland: what's the error
[13:25] <ikonia> faLUCE: thats fine - but you have no idea what it's done, so stop telling people it's updated system files when you have no idea
[13:25] <stangeland> ikonia, this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131209/
[13:25] <ikonia> stangeland: your dns broken
[13:25] <ikonia> stangeland: it's nothing to do with apt-get
[13:25] <stangeland> aha i see
[13:25] <stangeland> that makes sense
[13:25] <ikonia> stangeland: it can't resolve old-release.ubuntu.com or ppa.launchpad.net
[13:25] <faLUCE> ikonia: please don't be polemic without a reason. I just asked how to fix those permission problems
[13:26] <ikonia> faLUCE: please give proper information then rather than making up incorrect details
[13:26] <stangeland> ikonia, yeah it would make sense that its the dns that causes problems
[13:26] <faLUCE> ikonia: I don't have further infos
[13:26] <ikonia> faLUCE: right - so "I don't know what has happened" rather than "it's updated system files" - when you have no idea IF it's touched ANY system files
[13:27] <stangeland> ikonia, ahhh that fixed it
[13:27] <stangeland> or maybe not :(
[13:27] <the543> Hello, I have several large folders in MailDir format and I would like for Thunderbird (any other programm you may suggest) to index them so I can properly arrange / read / move them etc. Any ideas? (I know I could install a local linux server put it there and connect TB via imap but I am looking for a simpler solution).  any ideas? thanks!
[13:27] <konnu> is it possible to get help installing sbnc on shell account here?
[13:27] <ikonia> stangeland: nice work
[13:27] <ikonia> stangeland: ok, so what's the correct problem/error
[13:27] <ikonia> konnu: on an ubuntu system ?
[13:28] <faLUCE> ikonia: please don't be stupid and activate your mind. I just installed https://github.com/hellekin/autosshfs . Installation  means "make install". then, I uninstalled the app and I have that problem
[13:28] <evilop> the543: tunderbird supports mdir
[13:28] <evilop> the543: just create another account, select type of maildir, point it at the right place
[13:28] <konnu>    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[13:28] <konnu> ues ikonia
[13:28] <konnu> yes
[13:28] <ikonia> konnu: what's the issue ?
[13:29] <stangeland> ikonia, ok i changed back to no.archive and then it worked :)
[13:29] <konnu> http://pastebin.com/Hz24bSwk
[13:29] <konnu> thats the problem
[13:29] <stangeland> ikonia, so only problem from the start was dns :)
[13:29] <evilop> the543: most email clients supports maildir
[13:29] <ikonia> stangeland: cool, nice work
[13:29] <niklau> ikonia: im the guest who asked you about xorg just before. I just created the file and added; "option "Prefered Mode" "-modline-"".
[13:29] <eeee> faLUCE: what are the permissions on the filesystem you're trying to mount?
[13:29] <the543> evilop: when I create a new account I have only IMAP and POP3 as options
[13:30] <stangeland> ikonia, thanks :) Thanks for your help....although i should upgrade to 14.04 asap
[13:30] <evilop> the543: there is a plugin for maildir supprt
[13:30] <niklau> now I get black screen at boot, oh lord
[13:30] <evilop> support*
[13:30] <evilop> the543: there are also clients that support maildir out of the box, like claws, evolution, mutt
[13:30] <ikonia> stangeland: do it when you have time to focus on it properly
[13:30] <konnu> ikonia: you ever installed sbnc on shell ?
[13:30] <niklau> hi. is there anyone who might have the patience to help me out with xorg and xrandr for a moment
[13:31] <eeee> faLUCE: you could take a look at autosshfs and see what it does
[13:31] <ikonia> konnu: what's the actual problem you are having
[13:31] <vramana> I just installed the latest Haskell Platform on Ubuntu 14.04 When I type ghci,  i get this error Loading package integer-gmp ... <command line>: can't load .so/.DLL for: libgmp.so How do I resolve this?
[13:31] <_Trullo> http://pastebin.com/fMea01bK anyone know how to solve this?
[13:31] <stangeland> ikonia, yeah... exactly
[13:31] <vramana> it is somewhat similar to this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6360724/installing-ghc-binaries-on-linux-cant-find-libgmp-so ??
[13:31] <evilop> the543: there are also tools to convert maildir to eg sqlite, mbox, whatever
[13:32] <ikonia> _Trullo: we went through this the other day didn't way, you had a PPA for xmbc that was causing a problem as it supplied the mysql package
[13:32] <_Trullo> hmm..
[13:32] <ikonia> "didn't we" sorry, typo
[13:33] <_Trullo> so how do I fix it?
[13:33] <niklau> I can't seem to read the manual right on anything that I do right now. does anyone feel like helping_? o lord
[13:33] <Dramors> Hey when I wanna run a script without having it floud my terminal, it's ./script > /dev/null right?
[13:33] <evilop> the543: other than that you can run dovecot on localhost
[13:33] <ikonia> _Trullo: as I recall we advised you to remove the packages from the PPA
[13:33] <evilop> the543: to get imap access
[13:34] <evilop> Dramors: or &> if you also want to redirect stderr
[13:34] <the543> evilop: thank you a lot!
[13:35] <evilop> Dramors: asuming you are running a sane shell
[13:35] <Dramors> evigrande: thanks :)
[13:35] <_Trullo> how do I find which ppa it is?
[13:35] <evilop> Dramors: or 2>&1 > /dev/null
[13:35] <Dramors> What does that do?
[13:35] <ikonia> _Trullo: it was the xbmc one as I recall
[13:35] <Dramors> sorry evigrande I meant to say evilop, tab failed :P
[13:35] <_Trullo> hmm.. where is the list of all the ppa's?
[13:36] <_Trullo> I know sources.list is one, but where is the other?
[13:36] <ikonia> _Trullo: depends how you installed them, either in /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:36] <_Trullo> team-xbmc-ppa-saucy.list team-xbmc-ppa-saucy.list.distUpgrade
[13:36] <_Trullo> I got those
[13:36] <ikonia> _Trullo: that looks like the ones
[13:38] <_Trullo> and I just remove those from the list?
[13:38] <ikonia> _Trullo: no
[13:38] <ikonia> _Trullo: you need to remove the packages it installed
[13:39] <ikonia> _Trullo: the package having a problem came from that repo, that repo is not something built / supported by ubuntu
[13:39] <the543> !live
[13:40] <_Trullo> https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=saucy not much there.. and nothing like mysql..
[13:42] <ikonia> _Trullo: we went through it the other day, I don't rember all the details and it turned out to be the PPA
[13:47] <zot> Hi!
[13:48] <_Trullo> ikonia, think I solved it..
[13:48] <power> hello everyone i need some help please
[13:48] <ikonia> gret
[13:48] <ikonia> great
[13:48] <cfhowlett> power,
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !ask
[13:48] <_Trullo> it was wrong ip in my.cnf...
[13:49] <power> I just installed ubuntu 12.04
[13:49] <power> and formatted my complete hard drive
[13:49] <power> it was a clean install
[13:49] <evilop> power: why install an ancient version?
[13:49] <power> but now i have problems with wifi connectivity
[13:50] <power> because it was the only version i had
[13:50] <cfhowlett> evilop, 12.04 is not ancient and is supported through 2017
[13:50] <ikonia> it's not acent
[13:50] <ikonia> it's fully supported
[13:50] <power> i thought i will upgrade to 14.10
[13:50] <ikonia> power: that would be unwise
[13:50] <ikonia> 14.10 is still in development and not an LTS releas.e
[13:50] <loki__> what is openwrt ipk?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> power, 14.10 is beta.  not ready for prime time, but if you don't mind breaking and fixing everything yourself, go for it.
[13:51] <evilop> 2.5 years is ancient :/
[13:51] <ikonia> evilop: no, it's not
[13:51] <loki__> can i get information out of there?
[13:51] <ikonia> loki__: the web
[13:51] <power> I tried to upgrade to 12.10
[13:51] <loki__> for example dependenices?
[13:51] <ikonia> power: 12.10 is EOL
[13:51] <cfhowlett> power, OR you install the next Long Term Support version 14.04.1
[13:51] <loki__> oh it is ubuntu)
[13:51] <loki__> sorry
[13:52] <cfhowlett> power, 12.10 is dead.  do not install.  torrent/download 14.04.1 and clean install
[13:52] <power> Currently i am upgrading to 10.04.1
[13:52] <ikonia> what ?
[13:52] <cateract> Hello, I'm facing an issue in evince package. While I try to select any line or word I get black background, which makes that line or word unreadable.
[13:52] <ikonia> you're upgrading from 12.04 to 10.04.1 /??
[13:52] <ray1> hi. I'm having trouble with usbhid and I can't set mousepoll=2 with the generic /sys/modules method. I know theres a few workarounds to load the option at boot, like kernel cmdline for example. I have no experience with this.
[13:52] <power> yes
[13:52] <cateract> please tell me how to change this background colour
[13:52] <cfhowlett> power, not sure you're not trolling us.  You JUST said you installed 12.04.  clarify
[13:52] <cateract> to something light color
[13:52] <ikonia> power: please don't be silly
[13:52] <ikonia> power: 12.04 is later than 10.04 so it's not possible to upgrade to an older version
[13:52] <power> 12.04 to 10.04.1
[13:53] <ikonia> power: no
[13:53] <power> sorry sorrry
[13:53] <cfhowlett> power, 12 = year.  04 = month.
[13:53] <power> it was just a typo
[13:53] <ikonia> power: you're not doing that , so please don't pretend you are
[13:53] <power> extremely sorry
[13:53] <cfhowlett> power, not funny.  install 14.04.1   and I'm done with this.
[13:53] <power> i am upgrading to 12.04 to 14.04.1
[13:54] <power> i am extremely sorry guys
[13:54] <power> can i tell my problem i was facing
[13:54] <ray1> im sure this isn't the right channel to look for help on usbhid and such as this is specifically ubuntu
[13:55] <ray1> but where should I then look for help
[13:56] <power> @cfhowlett
[13:57] <power> @ikonia
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !details | power,
[13:57] <power> ok
[13:57] <power> I installed this ubuntu12.04 three days ago, it was a clean install but when the system booted it is not connecting to the available wifi network, touch pad geustures are not working
[13:58] <power> fetching the upgrade failed when i tried to upgrade to 12.10
[13:58] <power> http://askubuntu.com/questions/515352/ubuntu-12-04-wireless-wifi-not-working-can-not-upgrade-to-12-10-touchpad-ges/515360#515360
[13:58] <power> I used all these commands but still no positive results
[13:59] <cfhowlett> power, some of those issues are quite likely to be fixed by upgrading to 14.04.  for the last time: 12.10 is DEAD.  open a terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade will bring you to 14.04.1         or get the ISO and clean install.
[13:59] <power> Yes
[13:59] <power> I tried to do that
[13:59] <power> but this is the problem
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> fckin xchat
[13:59] <power> Running the 'unity' desktop environment is not fully supported by your graphics hardware. You will maybe end up in a very slow environment after the upgrade. Our advice is to keep the LTS version for now. For more information see wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/UpdateManagerWarningForUnity3D Do you still want to continue with the upgrade?
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> guys
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> pls
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> advice good irc client
[14:00] <cfhowlett> power, lubuntu or xubuntu then.  get the ISO. clean install.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !irc | LittleFool
[14:01] <ahehalfalfow> whoa
[14:01] <ahehalfalfow> hello
[14:01] <power> what will happen if i upgrade to 14.10 from 12.04
[14:01] <ahehalfalfow> power: you'll get more recent packages
[14:01] <power> is there any possibility? that my problems will get solved
[14:01] <cfhowlett> power, so you're either not reading or trolling.  final message.  14.10 is beta.  not supported.  install 14.04
[14:01] <power> yes yes
[14:01] <power> 14.04.1
[14:02] <power> What a noob I am -_-
[14:02] <ahehalfalfow> i just programmed a /dev/fb0 framebuffer screensaver... in the Bourne Again SHell...
[14:02] <ahehalfalfow> that was interesting.
[14:03] <power> what will happen if i upgrade to 14.04.1 from 12.04? even when it says the graphics are not supported
[14:03] <ahehalfalfow> i found out /dev/fb0 handles data in 0xBBGGRR(?)(?) format so far. 4 bytes per pixel.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> power, lubuntu/xubuntu don't use unity. problem solved.
[14:04] <ahehalfalfow> SOON I WILL MAKE A FRAMEBUFFER VERSION OF ROGUE/NETHACK. i hope... ;-;
[14:04] <power> okay
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !flavors | power
[14:04] <ikonia> ahehalfalfow: can you make a keyboard without a caps lock
[14:04] <fridaynext> anyone know of a good hardware channel to discuss pc/server builds?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> ahehalfalfow, ask your ubuntu questions.  for general chitchat; #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:05] <ahehalfalfow> n0 but 1 c0uld pr0b4bly m4k3 4 5cr1pt t0 d0 th4t
[14:05] <ikonia> ahehalfalfow: so please stop with it then
[14:05] <ikonia> fridaynext: ##hardware ?
[14:05] <mdev> when the next release of LTS server version coming out?
[14:06] <power> thank you guys
[14:06] <ahehalfalfow> sorry. im just trying to find a chat group that accepts linux discussions, it seems i came to the wrong group! :[ sorry
[14:06] <cfhowlett> mdev, 2016
[14:06] <power> for your time
[14:06] <fridaynext> ikonia: thanks!
[14:06] <mdev> wow ways away, so 14.04 is the very latest right?
[14:06] <ikonia> ahehalfalfow: yeah, this is the wrong channel, this is ubuntu support, not linux discussion
[14:07] <power> I'll install xubuntu
[14:07] <cfhowlett> mdev, well, 14.04.1
[14:07] <cfhowlett> mdev, also #ubuntu-server is a channel
[14:08] <mdev> Topic is 'Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[14:08] <mdev> thanks
[14:10] <power> this is last doubt of mine
[14:10] <power> my wifi drivers are not working at all, and i can use my wired connections not more than 2 hours
[14:11] <cateract> hello
[14:11] <cfhowlett> cateract, greetings.  ask  your ubuntu questions
[14:11] <power> so if i upgrade to 14.04.1
[14:12] <power> is there any possibility of that my wifi problem will be solved?
[14:12] <cateract> cfhowlett, I'm getting an issue while using evince, Whenever i try to select a word or line in evince, it gives me black background
[14:13] <cfhowlett> cateract, and the selection is unviewable?
[14:13] <cateract> cfhowlett, yes
[14:13] <cateract> cfhowlett, how do i change this colour
[14:14] <littlebit> hi people, I have a question concerning the ubuntu repository. There is a package called "mednafen" and the current version of the ubuntu repository is not the latest and I wanted to know where and how can I point out that in order to get the latest version of that package?
[14:14] <ikonia> littlebit: why do you want the latest version
[14:14] <ikonia> littlebit: whats wrong with the ubuntu version
[14:15] <littlebit> ikonia: the current ubuntu version can't handle snes roms
[14:15] <cfhowlett> cateract, I see nothing in help file suggesting that highlighting color can be selected.  play with your global system appearance/theme settings.  I'd guess that's the source of the trouble.  *guess*
[14:15] <littlebit> at the site http://mednafen.sourceforge.net/releases/ the latest version can handle snes roms
[14:15] <ikonia> littlebit: is that a known/documented bug/feature ?
[14:16] <cateract> cfhowlett, I am searching this for a lot of time now
[14:16] <cateract> cfhowlett, fine i'll find something
[14:16] <ikonia> !info mednafen
[14:16] <littlebit> ikonia: I'm not sure, because it is my first time that I ran into an unupdated package in the ubuntu repo
[14:16] <eeee> snes is super nintendo entertainment system
[14:16] <ikonia> littlebit: do you know whwat version the snes support came in at ?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> littlebit, #mednafen                      might know more
[14:17] <cfhowlett> littlebit, also sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:17] <littlebit> cfhowlett: let me try that
[14:18] <mellamokb> hey all, i just installed gnome, and i'm trying to figure out how to enter a "^" which is part of my password
[14:18] <mellamokb> i type shift+6 and nothing happens...
[14:19] <littlebit> ikonia: yes, it starts at version 0.9
[14:19] <ikonia> littlebit: you'll need to log a bug then
[14:19] <littlebit> ikonia: ok, where do I do that?
[14:19] <ikonia> littlebit: its unlikely it's going to get updated in my opinion
[14:19] <ikonia> littlebit: launchpad.net
[14:19] <ikonia> !bug > littlebit
[14:20] <littlebit> ikonia: y do u say so?
[14:20] <ikonia> littlebit: because it's the norm for ubuntu not to update packages in the middle of release without a really good reason
[14:21] <littlebit> ikonia: ah ok, but it will at each cycle tough which is in 04 and 09 or 11 right?
[14:22] <ikonia> littlebit: it may/may not change versions at each release.
[14:22] <cury> hi, anyone knows why softdog (software watchdog) for ubuntu 12.04.3 doesn't work at all?  I triggered the kernel crash with "echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger",  and wanted to see a rebooting, but no luck...
[14:22] <eeee> littlebit: if you want, you can compile from source
[14:23] <littlebit> eeee: that is true, but I thought of pointing out that there is a package in the ubuntu repo that needs to be updated for the next cyle
[14:23] <littlebit> *cycle
[14:23] <cury> I'm sure the watchdog daemon is running correctly.   with "ps -ef" to check the process state, and also "tail /var/log/syslog" to see if watchdog service was started properly.
[14:24] <eeee> littlebit: alright, cool
[14:25] <eeee> thought you didn't know you could still get it
[14:25] <eeee> before then
[14:25] <littlebit> eeee: yea true
[14:25] <cury> however,  the system could reboot successfully if I tried to kill the watchdog process by:  # kill -STOP $(cat /var/run/watchdog.pid)
[14:29] <Jimbo> Hi, im having some technical issues regarding the Wifi. It is a Asus X550C laptop. The network hardware switch is ON, When I try to press fn+f2 (for the wifi-switch, nothing happens). so I cant connect to wifi =(
[14:30] <nashant> Could someone please tell me what the hell is going on with my SSD drives? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/43ae10838f1820734a07
[14:38] <Basketball> i wrote a contab for rtcwake and entered it with crontab -e but it didnt run
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: if you run: crontab -l , do you see the crontab you added?
[14:40] <Basketball> i see my 3 ones ActionParsnip  did it type them right
[14:40] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[14:40] <Basketball> 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[14:40] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 1,0,6 pmi action suspend
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you cant add sudo to cron
[14:40] <llorephie> Hi again... Now I configure with ubuntu-customisation-kit Ubuntu 14.04.1 ISO, in terminal mode I installed... Many packages. Such as ubuntustudio* packages, wine, LAMP-server. But will it correct work on target PCs?
[14:41] <llorephie> Or for this I must use other solutions?
[14:41] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, so do i just remove sudo from it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you need to run: sudo crontab -e , to edit root's crontab and add the commands without sudo
[14:41] <cfhowlett> llorephie, *should* work.
[14:41] <Basketball> and ActionParsnip the 3rd line should have ran last night at midnight and it didnt
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: if the commands need sudo to work, you need to cron as root, not your user
[14:42] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[14:42] <Basketball> 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[14:42] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 1,0,6 pmi action suspend
[14:42] <Basketball> and ActionParsnip how do i do that
[14:42] <llorephie> cfhowlett: do you know, is there some alternatives for this? Need install this image on 15 monoblocks with dual-boot with Windows =\
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: do what?
[14:42] <Basketball> root
[14:42] <chrs-> any way to disable trackpad while typing in ubuntu?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> llorephie, netinstall is the first thing that comes to mind, but I don't know if you can netinstall in dualboot
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you need to run: sudo crontab -e , like I already said, and cron as root if the command needs root access
[14:43] <llorephie> cfhowlett: there is no central server or LAN-connection. School =(
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <chrs-> ActionParsnip: you got me, i shouldn't be asking in here. i'm not running a supported version
[14:44] <cfhowlett> llorephie, well, then ... start booting and installing.  Have fun with that :)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: then why ask?
[14:44] <chrs-> i'm a gambler
[14:45] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, that still doesnt explain why pmi action suspend didnt run at midnight last night
[14:45] <chrs-> i was hoping for the best
[14:45] <llorephie> cfhowlett: about 15Gb of packages >,...,<
[14:45] <llorephie> Don't sure about our internet connection :\
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: if your release is EOL I suggest you upgrade or reinstall to get to a supported release
[14:45] <cfhowlett> chrs-, the best is you get your OS support from the OS channels.
[14:45] <chrs-> ActionParsnip: my release is 14.10 but theres not that many people in ubuntu+1
[14:45] <cfhowlett> llorephie, perhaps setting up your own repo mirror is an option.
[14:45] <eeee> chrs-: settings > mouse > disable while typing
[14:46] <WeiJunLi> hello my terminal seems to have a limit of text to being displayed.I am scrolling up and I cannot see the text above, how do I solve that?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you could add a command to update a file with some text, the n run the pmi command so you know the line was processed
[14:46] <chrs-> eeee: weird, it's already checked
[14:46] <llorephie> cfhowlett: Hmm... What size of Ubuntu repo is now about?) Maybe for 1 night I can download it...
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: that is where is is supported. Just because the channel is dead doesnt mean you can fall back to here
[14:46] <chrs-> eeee: theres already a problem with the trackpad driver that i'm about to file a bug for, for a different issue
[14:46] <dannixon> WeiJunLi: AFAIK it depends on the terminal you are using
[14:47] <chrs-> ActionParsnip: i know, sorry
[14:47] <chrs-> eeee: so maybe theres it's another driver issue
[14:47] <chrs-> ok, i'm gone. thanks.
[14:47] <WeiJunLi> dannixon: default terminal ubuntu14.04
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: you do realise that not only is Utopic not even remotely ready or stable, but when it does come out its only got 9 months of support
[14:47] <cfhowlett> llorephie, 8 gigs max for plain vanilla ubuntu
[14:48] <dannixon> WeiJunLi: Im
[14:48] <llorephie> cfhowlett: wow... Ubuntu Studio must be not over 30Gb... Thanks :)
[14:48] <eeee> WeiJunLi: what do you mean? theres a scrollback set in the preferences
[14:48] <cfhowlett> llorephie, not even close
[14:48] <eeee> WeiJunLi: try shift+uparrow
[14:48] <eeee> WeiJunLi: sorry, shift+pageup
[14:49] <dannixon> WeiJunLi: I;m not sure what the default is, haven't used it for a while, but the option you want is the default scrollback length
[14:49] <WeiJunLi> eeee: it writes AAAAAA
[14:49] <ivan_newbie> hello world
[14:49] <WeiJunLi> on terminal
[14:49] <cfhowlett> llorephie, I've got ubuntustudio  with xubuntu-restricted-extras and a few odds - ends. 11 gigs not counting /home
[14:49] <ivan_newbie> this is my first linux experience
[14:49] <eeee> WeiJunLi: yeah sorry, shift+pageup
[14:50] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  what do i type
[14:50] <WeiJunLi> anyway I solved it
[14:50] <WeiJunLi> thank you!
[14:50] <eeee> np
[14:50] <llorephie> cfhowlett: wow... Thanks :)
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: what is the output of: echo $USER
[14:51] <Basketball> harris
[14:51] <rypervenche> ivan_newbie: Hello, welcome.
[14:52] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  harris
[14:52] <WeiJunLi> anyway In the profile preferences there is scrolling info to Unlimited but it always find a limit anyway lool
[14:52] <sajan> wafflejock,
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: then change the last line to: 0 0 * * 1,0,6 echo "suspend" | tee /home/harris/Desktop/suspendran.txt; pmi action suspend
[14:53] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, ok and what about the other 2
[14:54] <Basketball> idk if they work
[14:54] <eeee> Basketball: if you run pmi action suspend in a terminal
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: 3rd time. Run: sudo crontabe -e ,put those commands there so they are cron'd as root
[14:54] <eeee> does it work?
[14:55] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  i put all 3 in sudo contab -e
[14:55] <eeee> Basketball: why are you using it over pm-suspend ?
[14:55] <Basketball> eeee, no reason
[14:55] <eeee> try it in the terminal
[14:55] <ubunt> i don't find a preview images from terminal that to work it, can you help me?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: cool, then it will run the commands as root
[14:55] <Basketball> try what via terminal eeee
[14:55] <eeee> pmi action suspend
[14:55] <Basketball> ok ActionParsnip  we see tonight when it does that
[14:56] <eeee> Basketball: i think it ran, but the command isn't working
[14:56] <eeee> Basketball: do you have pmi installed?
[14:57] <Raz1> What games do you guys play in linux?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Raz1, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:57] <Raz1> all right
[15:00] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  how do i make this also run sunday at midnight 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem  what do i add
[15:00] <eeee> Basketball: have you done a apt-get install powermanagement-interface ?
[15:01] <eeee> Basketball: cause if you haven't, you don't have the command pmi
[15:02] <Raz1> On that topic. I recently experimented with TLP (on and off) and intel pstate (on and off) on my ivybridge laptop. pstate decreased battery life whereas tlp made no difference at all regardless of scaling governor
[15:02] <Basketball> eeee,  how do i make this also run sunday at midnight 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem  what do i add
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: 0 0 * * 6 command , is saturday going to sunday at midnight....
[15:04] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  no i want it to run command sunday through thursday
[15:04] <eeee> wouldn't that be friday midnight ? 6 = saturday and 0 0 being the start ? ( i haven't tried it.. )
[15:11] <ysangkok> i want to build an old program for 32-bit on this 64-bit machine... so i install lib32ncurses5-dev, but i am missing lib32svgalib1-dev. does anyone know an easy way to make lib32XXX packages?
[15:11] <expunge> ysangkok: apt-file can help you find things
[15:12] <ysangkok> expunge: i know, but the package i am looking for was never generated; so of course apt-file can't help me
[15:12] <expunge> =)
[15:13] <ysangkok> i mean, the system works for lib32ncurses5-dev, i just don't know how it works
[15:13] <ysangkok> it is turtles all the way down though... when building svgalib for 32-bit, it needs the 32-bit version of libx86... and these obscure packages have hideous build systems
[15:14] <expunge> heh
[15:20] <popey> ysangkok: libsvga1-dev ?
[15:20] <popey> ysangkok: apt-get install libsvga1-dev:i386 libx86-1:i386
[15:25] <bluefox83> ok, so i made a change to /etc/default/grub and now when i do update-grub i get this error: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: quiet splash noplymouth acpi_backlight=samsung radeon.audio=1: not found
[15:25] <bluefox83> how do i put grub back to default?
[15:25] <ikonia> use your backup
[15:25] <bluefox83> lets hope i was smart enough to make one
[15:25] <ikonia> you made a backup before you changed the file right ?
[15:26] <bluefox83> nope >.>
[15:26] <ikonia> then you need to manually updated it
[15:26] <bluefox83> if only i could go back in time D:
[15:26] <ikonia> however that error shows the problem is line 11
[15:26] <expunge> bluefox83: pastebin that file
[15:26] <ikonia> so just fix line 11
[15:26] <bluefox83> that's the thing, i did fix it
[15:26] <bluefox83> it still messes up D:
[15:26] <ikonia> then you've not fixed it
[15:27] <expunge> heh
[15:27] <bluefox83> what i mean is, i put it back to what it wasbefore i edited the file
[15:27] <WakeODonnell> Whoop, I got it working from last night!! Installing Ubuntu now. If the guys who helped me out are here, thank you.
[15:27] <ikonia> bluefox83: I doubt that
[15:27] <ikonia> or you wouldn't be asking "how do I put it back to how it was before"
[15:27] <ikonia> you clearly know it's not right
[15:28] <bluefox83> so is there a eway to restore grub to what it was before? like create a new file?
[15:28] <ikonia> bluefox83: no
[15:28] <bluefox83> i'm freaking tempted to just delete it and regenerate a new one >.>
[15:28] <bluefox83> but i dunno how to make it do that either...lol
[15:28] <ikonia> that file is specific to your machine and used to build the grub config
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: the default grub file is available online
[15:28] <ikonia> bluefox83: how do you expect to generate a new one....when your ocnfig file is broken
[15:29] <bluefox83> how about if i reinstall grub O.o
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: why did you not backup the file before editting?
[15:29] <bluefox83> wont it generate  new config file?
[15:29] <ikonia> bluefox83: that just puts the binary back onto the boot sector
[15:29] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: who knows, momentary lapse of stupid i suppose
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: no, but as I said. The file is available online.  Making backups of files allows easy backpedalling, no?
[15:30] <expunge> you don't actually need /etc/default/grub, except to use the upstream and ubuntu way of configuring grub
[15:30] <expunge> =)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> expunge: user is using Ubuntu.....
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: http://askubuntu.com/questions/277736/regenerate-etc-default-grub
[15:32] <expunge> ActionParsnip: no way!
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> expunge: crazy, right?
[15:32] <expunge> loopey, even
[15:34] <ysangkok> popey: won't that break the existing 64-bit version? if i install packages with the :i386 suffix, do they really go into /usr/lib32 so that gcc will find them when run with -m32 ?
[15:36] <Guest51211> is there a tool in ubuntu for reading .dat files?
[15:36] <bluefox83> ok, going to restart...hope i didn't break anything >.>
[15:37] <wafflejock> Guest51211: dat isn't used for just one type of file, what is the file for?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: ".dat files" tells us nothing
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: what is the file, how did you generate it or come across it
[15:38] <Guest51211> sorry, its a blackberry bbm.dat file
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: so its contact details then?
[15:38] <freetip> http://tinyurl.com/p5bpscx
[15:38] <freetip> free soccer tips
[15:38] <Guest51211> chat history
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: tried gedit?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: little note, in Linux file extensions don't mean much
[15:39] <Xtreme> guys, how to kill xserver and just use system like a shell? a vps
[15:39] <Guest51211> yes, i only see some text that makes sense but mostly gibberish
[15:40] <expunge> Xtreme: don't cross post
[15:40] <Guest51211> ok ActionParsnip i hear u
[15:40] <Xtreme> expunge, dint wanted to
[15:40] <Xtreme> but realised ubuntu will be a better place
[15:40] <Xtreme> PS: lightdm doesnt work
[15:40] <Xtreme> mint uses cinammon
[15:41] <expunge> cinnamon is not a DM
[15:41] <expunge> but you could try gdm instead
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: if you use the 'file' command in terminal, what does it say the file is?
[15:43] <WLM> Hey, I get the message that there is an internal error in Ubuntu (https://i.imgur.com/GfxTXLu.png) at random times — no visible problems happen. Why is that?
[15:43] <wafflejock> Guest51211: looks like if you want to fiddle with it you could try this Blackberry Backup Extractor program, perhaps under wine you can extract the data
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Wlm: report the issue, it helps things get fixed
[15:44] <WLM> I always report them, ActionParsnip, just wondered what was going on
[15:45] <wafflejock> WLM: yeah you can look into the details it provides and/or check you /var/log files particularly syslog, or use dmesg to search for errors, (maybe this helps too, dmesg | grep EE)
[15:45] <Guest51211> file command says its a data file
[15:46] <expunge> good ole 'file' =P
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: can you not make the file again, but use plain text
[15:49] <Guest51211> how ActionParsnip?
[15:50] <blufox83> ok, so the new grub thing worked..thanks for that
[15:51] <blufox83> but now i need to figure out why i can only boot from a 3.8 kernel in recovery mode, and can't boot any other kernels, in recovery mode or otherwise
[15:52] <wafflejock> blufox83: think you mentioned you had a Samsung is a it a chromebook variety?
[15:52] <blufox83> no
[15:53] <blufox83> it's not a chromebook
[15:53] <wafflejock> k was just curious cause I've heard the chromebooks can be more work and more picky about what works
[15:53] <blufox83> mhmm
[15:55] <blufox83> but for whatever reason i can't even install 14.04 from scratch because once i select to try ubuntu it wont start a graphical interface...it just sits at a black screen...when i try to do the check disk for errors...it does the same thing
[15:55] <blufox83> so i'm really confused
[15:56] <wafflejock> blufox83: well from the live CD I think it should only really be dependent on your RAM and the video drivers loading up properly... that's very strange though never seen a boot CD not be able to get the GUI without some error arising first
[15:57] <blufox83> i'm wondering if it's not the default video drivers for my radeon card
[15:57] <blufox83> i had to install drivers for my card from the website on this kernel (3.8) so this is getting out of hand
[15:58] <TimeVirus> how do I disable Lubuntu using hibernate and suspend?
[15:58] <TimeVirus> it is only reboot and shutdown that work properly
[15:58] <wafflejock> blufox83: hmm yeah maybe, I haven't really used ATI myself in a long time cause I always found linux support to be flakey
[15:59] <blufox83> well i have to go...see you later
[16:03] <littlebit> got a question, I have compiled mednafen from source and when i start the program from the terminal, I get: "./configure && make && sudo make install"
[16:03] <littlebit> sry I meant "bash: /usr/games/mednafen: No such file or directory"
[16:03] <bekks> So that file or directory does not exist.
[16:03] <ubunt> how install zgv from terminal?
[16:04] <littlebit> bekks: yes I know but when I use "which mednafen" I get: /usr/local/bin/mednafen
[16:04] <expunge> ubunt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding_the_Universe_and_Multiverse_Repositories
[16:05] <bekks> littlebit: And "/usr/games/mednafen" is not "/usr/local/bin/mednafen"
[16:05] <thecha> hi i just lpartitioned my usb stick with gparted how do i knwo installubuntu 12 on it?
[16:05] <thecha> do i have to run from live cd?
[16:05] <thecha> or can i just do it out of my regular deskotp installation
[16:05] <thecha> ?
[16:05] <thecha> pls help
[16:06] <TimeVirus> how do I prevent ubuntu suing suspend and hibernate?
[16:06] <expunge> thecha: you want to put installation media on it, or install a system _to it_?
[16:06] <expunge> TimeVirus: pardon?
[16:06] <littlebit> bekks: i know but the terminal gives me "bash: /usr/games/mednafen: No such file or directory" when i enter mednafen. but when I enter /usr/local/bin/mednafen it works fine
[16:06] <thecha> a system
[16:06] <TimeVirus> how do I prevent ubuntu using suspend and hibernate
[16:06] <expunge> TimeVirus: you using a laptop?
[16:06] <thecha> expunge thanks first of all! secondly i want to install ubuntu 12 on it and thn have a developing envrionment i can take with me
[16:07] <expunge> thecha: ah
[16:07] <thecha> expunge is that a good or a bad ah?
[16:07] <expunge> thecha: that's a little involved, you'll want to find a howto
[16:07] <thecha> coudl y ou provide a link
[16:07] <expunge> thecha: it's an I won't personally be able to help you much with that ah
[16:07] <thecha> i wastn able to ind anything
[16:07] <expunge> no but someone else might could
[16:07] <expunge> it's been done
[16:07] <thecha> have been looking for houirs
[16:08] <TimeVirus> how do I prevent ubuntu using suspend and hibernate please
[16:08] <TimeVirus> thye dont work
[16:08] <TimeVirus> they*
[16:08] <TimeVirus> any idea?
[16:09] <popey> ysangkok: it shouldn't break, no.
[16:09] <expunge> TimeVirus: you never answered my question
[16:09] <popey> ysangkok: that's the point of multiarch - allows you to have multiple copies of the same lib - 32 and 64 bit, installed at once
[16:10] <TimeVirus> you ask a question to answer mine?
[16:10] <TimeVirus> ok
[16:10] <TimeVirus> why does it matter?
[16:11] <popey> TimeVirus: click the battery in the indicator area, choose power settings. You can disable suspend there. We don't enable hibernate by default.
[16:11] <TimeVirus> ok thanks
[16:13] <expunge> TimeVirus: to follow your example, I can only ignore your question =P
[16:14] <TimeVirus> great we, you and I, are on the same page
[16:14] <TimeVirus> have a nice day
[16:16] <patates> any downsides to create an user with low uid, like 250? I want to prevent it from showing in login screen, lightdm blacklist username doesn't work.
[16:17] <expunge> patates: how'd you try to make it work?
[16:18] <patates> expunge, edited lighdm config, add desired usname in hidden-users=
[16:19] <ysangkok> popey: hmm great! but what is the point of the separately named lib32XXX packages then?
[16:19] <expunge> patates: there's another option, I think, to enable that functionality
[16:20] <patates> expunge: I'd like to know that.
[16:21] <expunge> patates: dpkg -l | grep -i greet
[16:21] <ubunt> repository for zgv?
[16:22] <patates> .. thanks expunge..
[16:24] <expunge> patates: ?
[16:24] <expunge> ubunt: universe
[16:24] <wafflejock> ubunt: doesn't appear to have a current release https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/zgv last released for Precise
[16:24] <patates> expunge: that does nothing. My problem has nothing to do with greeter..
[16:24] <patates> expunge: greeter doesn't offer blacklisting usernames
[16:25] <expunge> patates: you have to find the config file
[16:25] <patates> expunge: ofc I did.
[16:26] <expunge> patates: what file is it?
[16:27] <popey> ysangkok: those may be old package names which haven't been migrated to multiarch?
[16:27] <patates> expunge: lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[16:28] <expunge> patates: so what're the two things you've set?
[16:29] <patates> expunge: no options to set a blacklist
[16:29] <expunge> patates: you should be able to set greeter-hide-users=true, and then in another config hidden-users=foo
[16:30] <patates> but I want to keep a few users, I just want to hide one
[16:30] <patates> expunge
[16:32] <patates> of I think I have fount the problem.. users.conf is ignored bcz I got accountservice installed
[16:33] <Madkiss> cheers. how can I check whether apparmor is enabled or not?
[16:33] <ubunt> don't find zgv and don't find dfbsee amd fbi give me error
[16:33] <ubunt> can you help me
[16:33] <ubunt> ?
[16:33] <ikonia> ubunt: if they are not in the main repos they will either a.) not exist b.) be provided by 3rd parties
[16:34] <Gatis> Hi!
[16:34] <boldfilter1> Hi, when I login I'm not getting a prompt for when I need to use sudo on the first login, then I log out and log back in it's fine
[16:35] <ubunt> some program for to view images in the terminal for ubuntu 14.04?
[16:35] <ysangkok> ubunt: zgv
[16:35] <bazhang> !info xzgv | ubunt
[16:35] <Neurome> Madkiss, sudo apparmor_status
[16:36] <boldfilter1> The problem is pretty consistent
[16:36] <ysangkok> ubunt: if you don't have x running, you can boot without modesetting (nomodeset) and configure svga to use the framebuffer (/etc/vga/libvga.config)... you will probably need root to let svga mess with the terminal
[16:37] <Neurome> I can't get any streaming radio to work in ubuntu
[16:37] <Neurome> on streamtuner2 or streamripstar
[16:37] <ysangkok> popey: thanks! it's working!
[16:37] <GatisO> Hi
[16:37] <ysangkok> GatisO: Hello
[16:38] <ysangkok> Neurome: the easiest solution would probably be to use PulseAudio
[16:38] <ysangkok> Neurome: ah sorry i thought you said audio, but you said radio
[16:38] <boldfilter1> Also when I boot I must run compiz --replace to get unity to work
[16:39] <patates> if I mark an user SystemUser, in accountsservice, does this give the user any privileges? like sudo'ing or something less dangerous?
[16:41] <floWenoL> how can I permanently change the keyboard layout on ubuntu server ~just by changing a configuration file
[16:41] <floWenoL> because I already changed /etc/default/keyboard and no success
[16:47] <kristenbb> What can I do to have 3 partitions mounted  (with their label, in /media/myUser/myLabel, as would happen if I mounted them through the file manager) when I open a session ?
[16:48] <madalby> hi
[16:50] <popey> ysangkok: awesome
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: I think you might want to read up on 'fstab' ?
[16:51] <Neurome> problems getting radio working : (
[16:51] <Neurome> internet radio anybody know ?
[16:51] <kristenbb> SchrodingersScat: are you sure it can easily keep the label that was chosen  for the drive ?
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: at least that's how I've got my two 'Data' partitions mounted on boot
[16:52] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: not sure about label, but you can select the path, I have mine set to /media/$(whoami)/foo and that's where it is when it's mounted.
[16:52] <floWenoL> how can I permanently change the keyboard layout on ubuntu server ~just by changing a configuration file
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> !fstab | kristenbb
[16:53] <rypervenche> floWenoL: You would have to change your keymaps and your xorg.conf if you only want to do it from the command line.
[16:53] <kristenbb> SchrodingersScat: I want 'foo' to be the driver's label. Actually I want to have exactly the same result as if I had clicked on 'mount' from the file manager. So 'foo' does not work for me
[16:53] <gregtom6> hy all
[16:53] <rypervenche> floWenoL: But you should use the GUI to change it.
[16:54] <floWenoL> rypervenche: did you read what I wrote ubuntu SERVER
[16:54] <floWenoL> no gui
[16:54] <rypervenche> floWenoL: Nope, I did not. I'm only half "listening" here. Change your keymaps then. It should be something like /etc/default/keymaps or something like that.
[16:55] <floWenoL> rypervenche: already did
[16:55] <rypervenche> floWenoL: Then log out and back in and you'll be set.
[16:55] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: foo is just a placeholder because I don't know what you're actually calling it, and it doesn't help you to know what I call it.  Check out the links ubottu sent you and see if that makes any sense.
[16:55] <gregtom6> can I install drivers into Ubuntu live-cd? and "save the settings" somehow? I don't want to install ubuntu because I'm afraid data loss because of splitting a partition and it would be too much time to save all my datas
[16:55] <floWenoL> rypervenche: I even rebooted
[16:55] <gregtom6> but it would be good if I would be able to use this from playing dvd
[16:55] <rypervenche> floWenoL: pastebin your keymaps file please.
[16:56] <bazhang> gregtom6, persistent usb
[16:56] <floWenoL> hold a sec
[16:56] <bazhang> !usb | gregtom6
[16:56] <kristenbb> SchrodingersScat: but my point is that I don't want to hard code the value. I just want to say 'mount the drive in /dev/sda1' and I want to have exactly the same result as if I had done it from the user interface
[16:57] <rypervenche> kristenbb: Does labeling the file system not work for you?
[16:58] <floWenoL> rypervenche: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d241b41372fe90fe00ce
[16:59] <kristenbb> rypervenche: the file system does have a label. Let me restate my question. I want to be able to mount a partition when the system (or session, I don't mind) starts, and I want it to behave exactly as if I had done it from the user interface (in particular, I don't want to have to specify the location of where it will be mounted, the label of the mounted folder, and I want to be able to unmount it without any privileges)
[16:59] <rypervenche> floWenoL: That is not the right file. Give me a second.
[16:59] <floWenoL> rypervenche: dont have any other that seems related to keyboard in there
[17:02] <kristenbb> is it not possible to automate such as simple task as mounting a drive when the system starts ?
[17:02] <expunge> kristenbb: yup
[17:02] <wafflejock> !fstab
[17:03] <kristenbb> wafflejock: it does not seem that fstab really does what I would do when I click on 'mount' from the user interface
[17:03] <rypervenche> kristenbb: If udev isn't doing that for you automatically, then you may need to write some udisk rules. It should work automatically though. You may also need to have your Window Manager auto-mount them for you.
[17:04] <expunge> kristenbb: how doesn't it?
[17:04] <gregtom6> bazhang: what is the disadvantages of this?
[17:04] <wafflejock> kristenbb: yeah got back late in the conversation here actually other guys peeps here can probably help more
[17:04] <gregtom6> bazhang: I think it will be slower
[17:05] <kristenbb> expunge: well what do I have to do for it to behave exactly as if I had done it by hand ? (in particular, not giving label, mount point, and being able to unmount it without privileges) ?
[17:05] <rypervenche> floWenoL: loadkeys may be what you need to use.
[17:05] <floWenoL> rypervenche: thats what I have been doing but does not survive reboots
[17:05] <gregtom6> bazhang: will this be able to use the two bluetooth adapters connected to the PC?
[17:05] <expunge> kristenbb: particular /etc/fstab options
[17:05] <expunge> kristenbb: and possibly also nautilus, depending
[17:05] <kristenbb> expunge: okay, then maybe this is what I am missing. Which options ?
[17:07] <bazhang> gregtom6, of course it will be slower than a regular install
[17:08] <rypervenche> kristenbb: user   allow a user to mount
[17:09] <kristenbb> rypervenche: and what about choosing the device label as the mount point ?
[17:09] <rypervenche> kristenbb: As I said, I believe that would need to be done through udev rules.
[17:10] <kristenbb> I'm sorry I have no idea what it means. Can you be more specific ?
[17:12] <wafflejock> haven't done this myself but looks like a pretty thorough write up on it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[17:12] <wafflejock> old though so some things may have shifted
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <wafflejock> ignoring
[17:13] <kimmern25> hey
[17:13] <wafflejock> !ops
[17:13] <OerHeks> qjqqyy, wrong channel
[17:13] <popey> qjqqyy: please stop that
[17:13] <DJones> qjqqyy: Do you have an ubuntu support issue?
[17:13] <qjqqyy> sorry, script misfired
[17:14] <wafflejock> sorry to jump the gun, lots of spammers a few days ago or a persistent troll
[17:15] <DJones> qjqqyy: PLease disable scripts for the ubuntu channels
[17:15] <qjqqyy> roger
[17:16] <MortezaE> Hi. Sometimes some of Nautilus right click option get disabled! e.g. "Move to Trash" and "Rename". What to do?
[17:17] <wafflejock> MortezaE: are you sure you have permissions on the files you're trying to modify
[17:17] <MortezaE> wafflejock, yes of course... i'm talking about my home directory files.
[17:17] <OerHeks> MortezaE, in your /home/  folder or somewhere else?
[17:17] <MortezaE> /home/morteza
[17:18] <wafflejock> MortezaE: always good to check if it's plugged in :)
[17:18] <kimmern25> been trying out ubuntu for somo time now and really love it..but there is something whit windows that have a hold on me i really dont know what. anyone that had this filling?
[17:18] <wafflejock> MortezaE: so... have you tried firing up nautilus from the terminal and see if anything comes out
[17:18] <MortezaE> wafflejock, ok i'll test. thank u
[17:19] <wafflejock> kimmern25: not really.... I keep windows around becasuse I need it to run certain programs (Adobe stuff) but I wish I could leave it (wish Adobe had Linux releases, even at a premium I would pay to leave windows)
[17:20] <expunge> works fine in a VM
[17:20] <wafflejock> yup
[17:20] <expunge> but so do all the native, gratis, free alternatives... natively
[17:20] <expunge> also via Wine =P
[17:20] <wafflejock> expunge: I work with web developers
[17:20] <wafflejock> Wine only runs older versions
[17:20] <wafflejock> expunge: sorry meant designers*
[17:20] <wafflejock> am a developer
[17:20] <expunge> older versions of what?
[17:20] <wafflejock> so I need to be able to open PSDs or AI
[17:20] <kimmern25> wafflejock: i want to leve windows to but there is somthing whit it that make me come back
[17:20] <wafflejock> Photoshop Illustrator
[17:20] <expunge> photoshop and illustrator have changed very little in years
[17:21] <expunge> and gimp and inkscape do all the same things
[17:21] <wafflejock> expunge: designers don't use them
[17:21] <wafflejock> schools force feed Adobe tools
[17:22] <expunge> oh you just use them to convert files =)
[17:22] <wafflejock> expunge: yeah I'm just extracting things from designs then I'm outta there
[17:22] <MortezaE> wafflejock, I restarted it and now it works fine and has nothing to say to terminal for now...
[17:23] <wafflejock> it's just annoying to need it around, Krita does a good job rendering PSDs GIMP has problems with all the layer effects stuff though
[17:23] <wafflejock> MortezaE: yeah hard to say really but try running Nautilus from the terminal the next few times you use it and see if anything crops up, you can also check out your /var/log/syslog or other logs to see if anything crops up
[17:24] <MortezaE> ok i do so. ty
[17:24] <wafflejock> and personally I like Inkscape better than AI, but I'm not a designer so doesn't matter what I like
[17:24] <wafflejock> MortezaE: np good luck
[17:24] <expunge> kinda makes 'designer' a bad word, doesn't it? =P
[17:25] <wafflejock> eh I need em :)
[17:25] <wafflejock> I just think it sucks of Adobe, but I've complained to them already, they don't want to hear from the 1%, there were 10,000 who voted on a petition for it but no budge
[17:38] <Alanbitsch> how to change the system
[17:39] <Alanbitsch> when i in terminal, i need to enter "python3" to open python 3.3
[17:39] <Alanbitsch> how to change it>?
[17:39] <wafflejock> Alanbitsch: not really clear what you want to do... are you looking to add a symbolic link in /usr/bin/ that points to some existing python 3.3 executable file
[17:40] <kostkon> Alanbitsch, simplest thing you could do is create an alias
[17:41] <linxcat> i need to figure out which ports/protocols a certain program is trying to access so i get add these to my firewall exceptions. which is the easiest way to do this?
[17:41] <OerHeks> linxcat, manuals often tell you what ports are used
[17:41] <wafflejock> linxcat: you can use sudo netstat -tulnp
[17:42] <wafflejock> linxcat: it will show all the ports and processes using them
[17:44] <linxcat> waffle: the foreign addresses are all zeros or *.*.*.* when i use your command
[17:46] <wafflejock> linxcat: the -l is telling it to list listening ports so those are listening from any outside connection
[17:47] <wafflejock> the local address lists the IP/port
[17:47] <wafflejock> linxcat: man netstat
[17:47] <wafflejock> if you want the details the flags are briefly described there
[17:47] <linxcat> thanks
[17:47] <wafflejock> np
[17:53] <wafflejock> just noticed listening starts with list....
[17:53] <musher> Just installed ubuntu 14.04, but advert got wrong resolution and its not possible to switch it on surface, windows is to big
[17:54] <musher> *window
[17:54] <wafflejock> musher: you can grab a window usually by holding alt and clicking in the middle of the window, might help to shift it around
[17:55] <wafflejock> musher: is this in a VM or a regular install?
[17:55] <musher> okay dat alt and click thing worked
[17:56] <musher> wait
[17:56] <marvin-hh> I get: plasma-desktop: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libakonadi-kde.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7Akonadi21NotificationMessageV217registerDBusTypesEv
[17:57] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: someone may be able to help here but you may want to try #kubuntu as well
[17:57] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: looks like something is borked in Akonadi which is a central part of all the data in KDE desktop
[17:57] <musher> so i went to monitors, but only got resolution of 640x480
[17:58] <musher> cannot select another one
[17:58] <wafflejock> musher: probably needs graphics drivers...are you in virtual box or regular install?
[17:58] <musher> regular install
[17:58] <treats> my computer has been doing a series of things that make me want to reinstall the os from scratch (without loosing data of corse).  should I boot repair?
[17:59] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: yes, I can read. What I want is someone to start releasing working software for a change.
[17:59] <wafflejock> k can you get a terminal, if so type, lspci -k and look for your vga
[17:59] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I've been happy with Gnome, honestly KDE was fine on my system for a while too
[18:00] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I bought a System76 machine which means they check the hardware and work on custom drivers if need be (though I've never really needed them)
[18:00] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you work on custom drivers? What does that mean?
[18:01] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: you can't have this insane expectation that software written by a community of people will run on every possible configuration of hardware in the world without error
[18:01] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I don't work on custom drivers the company who makes my laptop makes them for their laptops, just sayin using random hardware you gotta expect a few random results
[18:01] <wafflejock> it's not like Dell slaps Windows into any given set of hardware and expects it to work, there are drivers and there are issues they deal with before shipping it out
[18:03] <wafflejock> treats: need to be a bit more specific on what it's doing that's unexpected
[18:03] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you actually work for System76?
[18:03] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: nope I work for me on web dev projects
[18:03] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you mean them?
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: since I deploy to AWS running Ubuntu server edition I like to have the same environment locally
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: no I mean for me
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I wouldn't mind taking credit for their site if I did it though :) it's not a bad one at all
[18:04] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: I have no idea what you are talking about.
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I just work for a small business my brother and I started up
[18:04] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: do you just own a System76 system?>
[18:04] <kostkon> marvin-hh, you are bordering trolling
[18:04] <wafflejock> yeah
[18:05] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: I would like to see a company statement from them that they actually modify any drivers.
[18:05] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: because, I don't think they have the knowhow to do so.
[18:05] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: https://system76.com/support/
[18:05] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: great don't care
[18:05] <kostkon> marvin-hh, i think they offer a system76 driver of sorts
[18:05] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: we're done talking unless you have a legit question I can answer
[18:06] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you have not provided evidence that they write their own drivers.
[18:06] <kristenbb> how can I share a folder in 14.04 ? i just right click, then 'local network share' then checked 'share this folder', but in the other computer (ubuntu too), although the shared folder does appear, it keeps asking me the password as though I entered it wrong.
[18:06] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: please do not propagate lies.
[18:06] <marvin-hh> kostkon: perhaps for the simplest of technology.
[18:06] <marvin-hh> kostkon: for example for the fan controls, etc.
[18:07] <kostkon> marvin-hh, even so, it's a driver, isn't it
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: they do not have the capability to guarantee anything about nvidia or amd hardware.
[18:07] <bekks> marvin-hh: Which would fulfill the statement "they develop drivers".
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: I don't know, could be.
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: where can I see the details of this 'driver'?
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: for example, source code.
[18:07] <bekks> marvin-hh: And who are you that you can judge if a company has support capabilities or not?
[18:07] <marvin-hh> bekks: an intelligent individual.
[18:08] <marvin-hh> bekks: who are you?
[18:08] <bazhang> !ot
[18:08] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[18:08] <kristenbb> how can I share a folder in 14.04 ? i just right click, then 'local network share' then checked 'share this folder', but in the other computer (ubuntu too), although the shared folder does appear, it keeps asking me the password as though I entered it wrong.
[18:09] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: the original reason I brought it up wasn't an Ad for System 76 or so we could discuss their business it was that you have insane expectations and now you've proven to just be insane so really it's taken care of itself
[18:09] <bazhang> wafflejock, lets move on please
[18:09] <OerHeks> kristenbb, try user/pass of the account you just used to make that share
[18:09] <energizer> Hello, how do I convert an avi to mp4
[18:09] <wafflejock> done taking a walk be back in a bit
[18:10] <bazhang> energizer, ffmpeg avconf or handbrake
[18:10] <kristenbb> OerHeks: that's what i did, the same authent window keeps popping as though i entered it wrong, which i did not
[18:10] <Klystron> Energizer, ffmpeg should do it
[18:10] <bazhang> !handbrake | energizer
[18:10] <Klystron> Handbrake for the GUI.  Best option.
[18:11] <bazhang> there's a PPA for it
[18:11] <kristenbb> vlc for the gui, best option, just my 2 cents
[18:11] <Klystron> Does Handbrake take advantage of CUDA or anything like that?
[18:11] <bazhang> not sure
[18:12] <ray1> hi. I can't get usbhid to set mousepoll=2, not through sys/modules or through grub kernel cmdline
[18:12] <energizer> ok trying those
[18:13] <bazhang> energizer, handbrake is the gui one
[18:13] <Klystron> Be sure to install the restricted extras package too.
[18:14] <bazhang> !find x264
[18:14] <bazhang> as well as that^
[18:14] <kristenbb> OerHeks: so if the password is not working, what could be wrong ? how to check that the domain is correct ?
[18:14] <Klystron> what does that do?  the lib that is?
[18:14] <bazhang> h264 support
[18:15] <plinio_> t
[18:15] <Klystron> it's not already there when you get handbrake?
[18:15] <OerHeks> kristenbb, maybe it is in the client, is that a windows machine?
[18:15] <bazhang> the one from their site? or the PPA
[18:16] <Klystron> I'm using bunt 14.04 and Hexchat baz
[18:17] <bazhang> hows that connected to your question about handbrake
[18:18] <OerHeks> kristenbb, this page might be any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[18:18] <OerHeks> ugly-url
[18:18] <bazhang> hugey url
[18:19] <OerHeks> space in names, as bad as the invention of pop-ups
[18:19] <bazhang> its a trap
[18:19] <Klystron> that's why it's cool to substitute %20 for spaces
[18:20] <bazhang> Klystron, for what energize r is trying to do, it probably doesnt matter, but there are more use cases than avi to mp4, so it's best to have more options
[18:20] <grennich> Did something recently happen with the repos? All of by ubuntu installs are failing with E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  or   W: Failed to fetch http://h.ubuntu.repo.cjdns.ca/dists/trusty/InRelease
[18:20] <musher> i only can choose resolution 640x480; how can i add 1024x768?
[18:20] <grennich> removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* does not solve issue
[18:20] <grennich> disregard that cjdns line sorry
[18:20] <bazhang> musher with arandr?
[18:21] <energizer> handbrake is crashing, trying to use ffmpeg or avconv.
[18:21] <energizer> Tried "ffmpeg -i file.avi out.mp4" but i got "The encoder 'aac' is experimental but experimental codecs are not enabled, add '-strict -2' if you want to use it."
[18:21] <Klystron> Yeah.  I just jumps on Synaptic to see what turned up for x264 and I see I already have the lib264-142 installed.
[18:21] <wafflejock> musher: need info about your graphics card/chipset/driver, lspci -k
[18:21] <bazhang> energizer, ffmpeg will need much more than that
[18:22] <energizer> what about avconv?
[18:22] <bazhang> energizer, where did you install handbrake from
[18:22] <energizer> apt
[18:22] <bazhang> !info handbrake
[18:23] <wafflejock> !pastebinit > musher
[18:23] <ray1> hi can anyone help me with some usbhid mousepolling issues
[18:23] <bazhang> energizer, did you install libfaac0?
[18:24] <energizer> bazhang: yes
[18:24] <Klystron> !info x264
[18:24] <bazhang> energizer, what preset are you using
[18:25] <Pandatomik> Hello guys, i'm currently running the laest version of ubuntu and i'm encountering a problem when using steam via wine, sometimes the computer reboots by itself and does not even provide the location of the log or anything
[18:25] <bazhang> Pandatomik, checked the appdb?
[18:25] <bazhang> !appdb | Pandatomik
[18:26] <Pandatomik> Ok ty for the redirection to winehq i'll go check there
[18:26] <energizer> bazhang: not sure. handbrake crashes as soon as i source a file
[18:27] <Dramors> Hey people, I wanna install pantheon on ubuntu. I found these instructions here http://www.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/283pq0/possible_to_install_pantheon_desktop_in_ubuntu/ci7jfdd and I wanted to ask if those still apply.
[18:27] <Dramors> Also some clarification on "Wouldn't recommend using this as your productive system ;) There are too many flaws yet to be fixed (better use the stable ppa to avoid that; can't tell you about that, because I haven't tried this with Ubuntu 14.04 yet...)" Are those flaws still present? If so, can I use the stable ppa?
[18:27] <Dramors> I asked in #elementary but no response in 2 hours so I thought I'd try here
[18:28] <tony_> anybody know of youtubelou?
[18:29] <OerHeks> Dramors, we can't tell, as we do not support elementary
[18:29] <ubunt> how to configure xzgv for to run xzgv in virtualterminal?
[18:30] <Dramors> OerHeks: You speak for all as if you are able to know what sort of knowledge each holds. Maybe someone knows and can provide me with a response. The ppa's are available and someone may be using them
[18:30] <OerHeks> !ppa
[18:31] <bazhang> Dramors, same thing, contact the PPA maintainer
[18:31] <OerHeks> Dramors, in basic, if you trust that ppa it is oke, we have no influence or whatsoever
[18:32] <OerHeks> Dramors, try polling in #elementary
[18:32] <Dramors> Right. So this channel is only for "in the official repos" discussion then?
[18:33] <bazhang> Dramors, yep
[18:33] <Dramors> Gotcha
[18:33] <grennich> Any solution for this?: Reading package lists... Error!
[18:33] <grennich> E: Problem parsing dependency Depends
[18:33] <grennich> E: Error occurred while processing mywpell-fa (NewVersion2)
[18:33] <grennich> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages
[18:33] <grennich> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[18:33] <grennich> oops ment to paste
[18:33] <grennich> http://pastie.org/9499345
[18:33] <grennich> removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* does not work
[18:34] <reversiblean> I get "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = 417140254545 ns)" error frequently and it cause my desktop to freeze.
[18:34] <OerHeks> grennich, go into softwaresources, change mirror?
[18:36] <reversiblean> This is happening since a long time. I would appreciate if anyone could help.
[18:37] <OerHeks> reversiblean, did you use special settings in your bios CPU/preq or memory/freq ?
[18:38] <jody> freedom
[18:39] <reversiblean> I really can't remember. My logs also shows
[18:39] <reversiblean> ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating Sleep State [\_S2_] (20131115/hwxface-580)
[18:39] <reversiblean> ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB_.PCI0.USB0._PSW: Object (Integer) must be a control method with 1 arguments (20131115/nsarguments-147)
[18:39] <jody> y can't i get the burn effect
[18:40] <Klystron> reverse, you might go into BIOS and switch to (or away from) the high resolution clock mode.
[18:40] <Klystron> And see if that makes any difference.
[18:41] <OerHeks> jody,  that plugin is part of compiz-plugins or compizplugins-extra
[18:41] <Klystron> Also, if you are doing any overcloclocking, 1st thing is to use stock settings.
[18:41] <tony_> anyone here using ubuntu 14.10
[18:42] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that tony_
[18:42] <OerHeks> tony_, no, support for 14.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[18:42] <dunderburken> hi, what NAS to go for? ReadyNAS, Asustor, Synology or WD My Cloud? I would like to have support for Bittorrent Sync, rsync and media-sharing. Any idea, anyone?
[18:42] <OerHeks> * untill release
[18:42] <Algebr> is it well known that 14.04 eats up a lot of memory?
[18:42] <Klystron> Heard good things about freeNAS
[18:43] <Klystron> There is also owncloud
[18:43] <Pryda> Algebr remove ubuntu
[18:43] <tony_> thank you
[18:43] <Algebr> Pryda: Right, there is that option. I'm just surpised at how resource hungry ubunut is.
[18:43] <OerHeks> dunderburken, freenas, or openmediavault would be my choise
[18:43] <reversiblean> Klystron: no I'm not. BTW I unplugged and plugged back my front panel headers. Not sure if i plugged to correct pinsr.
[18:44] <reversiblean> *pins
[18:44] <wafflejock> Algebr: it's pretty heavy in terms of DEs I think that's well known among those who care
[18:44] <Algebr> wafflejock: What is DEs?
[18:44] <wafflejock> Algebr: sorry desktop environments
[18:45] <Algebr> ah, I'm coming from arch using xfce...
[18:45] <wafflejock> Algebr: yeah that's at the light end
[18:45] <wafflejock> Algebr: I think LXDE is the lightest
[18:45] <wafflejock> not sure though
[18:45] <yz3pD> icewm
[18:45] <yz3pD> openbox
[18:45] <yz3pD> many light ones
[18:45] <Pryda> twm
[18:45] <Algebr> I just see it using up so much system memory and none of the swap.
[18:46] <OerHeks> Algebr, is that bad?
[18:46] <trijntje> Algebr: thats good, swap is slow
[18:46] <k1l> Algebr: ? since swap is way more slower its hjust right to use ram first
[18:46] <wafflejock> agree with statements/questions here
[18:46] <wafflejock> ^^
[18:46] <Algebr> Right, I guess its a good thing. Just have 16gb and seeing 1.6 gb being used up on just firefox/emacs is concerning
[18:46] <dunderburken> OerHeks, looked at freenas, but then you need to assembly the NAS hardware by you own?
[18:46] <OerHeks> cpu 1005 is also not bad
[18:46] <OerHeks> 100%
[18:47] <wafflejock> Algebr: what are you gonna use all that RAM for anyhow?
[18:47] <OerHeks> dunderburken, that is the basic of linux, yes.
[18:47] <Alanbitsch_> python-es
[18:47] <trijntje> Algebr: linux uses RAM to cache every disk file you read, so  RAM usage might seem a lot higher than it actually is
[18:47] <Algebr> wafflejock: hmm, big pandas dataframes?
[18:47] <Klystron> reversible, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Precision_Event_Timer
[18:48] <Klystron> your BIOS should have a setting to use it or not.
[18:48] <OerHeks> take a desktop or build a headless server, or buy one.  Asustor, Synology or WD My Cloud i am not sure they can run linux
[18:48] <Klystron> if it is in use, try switching it off, or if off, turn it on.
[18:49] <energizer> bazhang: fyi avconv took care of it. thanks for your help. "avconv -i file.avi -strict -2 episode8.mp4"
[18:49] <wafflejock> Algebr: yeah if it's a server and you want to keep resources to a minimum then Unity probably isn't the way to go
[18:50] <bazhang> energizer, great news
[18:50] <wafflejock> Algebr: Firefox and/or Chrome (modern web browsers) can eat up a lot of RAM on their own too though
[18:51] <Algebr> wafflejock: thanks
[18:52] <grennich> apt-get update:    Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:52] <grennich> lol
[18:52] <energizer> grennich: lol
[18:53] <Klystron> lxde is lightweight
[18:53] <popey> grennich: when did that start?
[18:53] <wafflejock> Algebr: np, just checked my resources ~500MB for Gnome-shell ~500MB for thunderbird ~200MB for Chrome and just one tab open
[18:54] <grennich> popey: after i changed sources but just %s/us.//g  in sources.list
[18:54] <grennich> updated, then this
[18:54] <grennich> when i ran update again
[18:54] <grennich> after the upgrade
[18:54] <grennich> by just*
[18:54] <alexander> _Alexander__
[18:56] <wafflejock> Algebr: ah actually more than that for chrome overlooked the extra processes at first, there are a couple more looks like add at least 300MB more to the chrome RAM consumption
[18:57] <slowlearn11> Hello, I have a question I don't  know how to google : what is the difference between "cat *" and "cat ./*" ? I am doing a challenge and the second one works but not the first (also, how to research info on this?)
[18:58] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: please elaborate what happens, "works" is not a very detailed description.
[18:58] <grennich> let me rephrase that. I changed sources because i could not even update before by %s/us.//g in sources.list. I updated and upgraded what seemed like successfully, then I went to run an update again and now: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:59] <grennich> I'm scared to reboot too because this is my kerberos server and I can't afford it not working
[18:59] <Klystron> slow, I don't see a difference
[18:59] <slowlearn11> SwedeMike: the challenge (http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/bandit3.html) is to read a file that has a space in it. doing cat thefile shows nothing at all, but cat ./thefile works
[19:00] <slowlearn11> that is it prints the content
[19:00] <Klystron> asterisk means match all and is assumed in the current working directory.  ./ explicitly means current directory
[19:01] <onizu> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.01 on my netbook alongside win8 , but ubuntu does not detect the existing partitions and shows the entire disk as freespace.
[19:01] <onizu> Please tell how to install in the partition that i have allocated for ubuntu?
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> slowlearn11: I can't duplicate that behavior on my machine, I created a file with a space in the name and the * still globs it fine.
[19:02] <Algebr> wafflejock: 500 mb just for gnome-shell!?
[19:02] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: do "find . -name '*spaces*' -print0" and tell me what it dinds.
[19:02] <slowlearn11> SchrodingersScat:  the file on that server is weird. I do not know how to duplicate it, However it is easy to connect to the server to duplicate. Is it ok to give the challenge's password ?
[19:02] <Algebr> That doesn't sound...crazy?
[19:02] <SwedeMike> finds
[19:04] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | slowlearn11
[19:04] <slowlearn11> no result SwedeMike
[19:04] <SchrodingersScat> well, this is ubuntu support, not overthewire.org support
[19:04] <SwedeMike> I just created a file called '  spaces  ' and doing 'cat *spaces*' shows the contents of that file just fine
[19:05] <slowlearn11> but it's on ubuntu and it's a general question ?
[19:05] <slowlearn11> anyhow, I'll treat it as a bug, thanks !
[19:05] <onizu> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.01 on my netbook alongside win8 , but ubuntu does not detect the existing partitions and shows the entire disk as freespace.
[19:06] <onizu> can anyone please tell me what's wrong?
[19:07] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: the problem is that the filename is precedded by a -
[19:07] <slowlearn11> SwedeMike: what does that change ?
[19:07] <Klystron> that is the switch character
[19:08] <Klystron> probably need to escape it
[19:08] <abrakadd> hello world
[19:08] <makara> onizu: maybe get a gparted boot cd and partition the disk before installing ubuntu
[19:08] <Klystron> we are the world
[19:09] <makara> onizu: or run ubuntu from cd and run gparted
[19:09] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: cat doesn't seem to honor -- to say "end of switches", so another method is needed
[19:09] <bekks> command -opt1 -opt2 -- -filename-with-a-leading-minus-charachter
[19:09] <onizu> makara, no cd drive, running bootable usb. partition created under win8
[19:09] <loganrun> does anyone know how to refresh the grub installation i.e. rewrite the boot sector or whatever. I have a raid array setup so I don't know per se what device or drive to that it was installed to
[19:09] <onizu> makara: ubuntu boots from usb, but during installation does not detect existing partitions. though the existing partitions are shown on the desktop
[19:10] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Works fine for me (cat with --)
[19:10] <leonardo_> !list
[19:11] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: go to http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/bandit0.html and see if you can get it working then.
[19:11] <loganrun> tried grub-install, but that asked me for a device
[19:11] <slowlearn11> so how do I properly escape this ? for f in *; do  cat $f; done
[19:12] <amanthakur> Hi guys, i am about to install ubuntu 14 64 bit on my laptop. I have windows 8 already installed in my laptop. I want to make a dual boot in my laptop. I was reading about UEFI. And i am confused how to install properly to boot both the OSes. Can anyone help me with it?
[19:12] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: for f in *; do cat "$f"; done
[19:12] <onizu> hi amanthakur
[19:12] <slowlearn11> iceroot_:  does not work
[19:12] <amanthakur> onizu, hi
[19:12] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: cat * would be the same as your for loop
[19:12] <onizu> amanthakur: just boot and go through installation?
[19:12] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: "does not work" is bad description
[19:13] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: It is exactly the same result as cat *, that is it enters cat as if no file were provided
[19:14] <amanthakur> onizu, i have followed the same procedure till now. But haven't installed ubuntu for over 2 years now. So was worried, since many users have faced problems with UEFI hardware.
[19:14] <makara> loganrun: update-grub?
[19:14] <onizu> amanthakur: you're from india, right? you can join #ubuntu-in
[19:15] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: for i in *; do cat "$i"; done   works fine here
[19:15] <amanthakur> onizu, yes, but i thnk i can get a better support here  because there are so many volunteers in this channel and i have my comm skills :)
[19:16] <onizu> amanthakur: sure
[19:16] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: if even "cat *" is failing, there is another issue
[19:16] <slowlearn11> iceroot_:  I swear it does not, is it just me ? the file name is '-'
[19:17] <sajan> wafflejock,
[19:17] <makara> anyone know of a reliable semantic file system?
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> slowlearn11: for i in *; do cat -- "$i" ; done
[19:17] <sajan> is there any app to measure the temperature of system
[19:18] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: no, the filename is more than -, it's -<space> with one or more spaces. I don't know why -- doesn't work, and yes, you're right, ./-* works, but not cat -- -*
[19:18] <trijntje> sajan: xsensors
[19:18] <bazhang> !sensors | sajan
[19:18] <SwedeMike> sajan: install lmsensors or equivalent.
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> cat -- * and cat -- -* works for me
[19:19] <slowlearn11> SwedeMike: I found the name by doing for f in *; do     printf -- '%s\n' "'$f'"; done , so this is wrong too ?
[19:19] <sajan> SwedeMike, so i install from software centre or terminal
[19:19] <onizu> SchrodingersScat: are you adam??
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> onizu: no.
[19:19] <onizu> SchrodingersScat: are you the guy from chatjunkies? :D
[19:19] <onizu> ok )
[19:19] <onizu> had a friend with this nick
[19:21] <SwedeMike> sajan: doesn't matter.
[19:21] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: That's because it's - and that means stdin
[19:22] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Use the full path with -- and it works
[19:22] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Errr, -- isn't even needed at that point.
[19:22] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: if the file is called "-" then imagine what is handed over to cat
[19:23] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: dont name files with "-"
[19:23] <SchrodingersScat> it's homework
[19:23] <slowlearn11> I did not, it's a tutorial
[19:24] <slowlearn11> I guess I understood now anyway, cat just didn't receive the file for some reason
[19:24] <slowlearn11> thank you all
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: mv \- something_usefull
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: cat is receiving file names
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: and your filename is called "-"
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: so the command will be "cat -"
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: and that can not work
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: wouldnt you need to escape the character?
[19:26] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: there was something to tell bash commands that everything after this string is not a paramter anymore but i can not remember what it was
[19:26] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: what is the way to properly tell cat to get the file without naming it ?
[19:26] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: even cat \- is failing
[19:26] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: ?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: try a double slash, may work
[19:26] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: you ALWAYS have to give cat the filename
[19:27] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: but he is searching for a generic way "for a in *"
[19:27] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: imo there was something like command -- foo
[19:27] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: so foo is never a parameter, but "cat -- -" is not working
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: try: mv \\- new
[19:29] <slowlearn11> surely there is a way to say something like "cat ($f)" (not real syntax, invented) to get the file to go through and be read ?
[19:29] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: yeah the mv is also working with \- foo  but not cat, that is what i was walking about, sorry
[19:29] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: sure, for a in *;do cat "$a"; done
[19:30] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: never ever call a file "-"
[19:30] <SchrodingersScat> cat -- * already works for me, I don't see the issue
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: could pipe it to: tee /dev/null | grep
[19:30] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: sure, for a in *;do cat -- "$a"; done
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: as it wil also output to stdoutn:-)
[19:31] <slowlearn11> neither for a in *;do cat "$a"; done nor cat -- * work
[19:31] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: for a in *;do cat -- "$a"; done either
[19:32] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: what is wrong about renaming "-" to something usefull?
[19:32] <slowlearn11> I have no writing priviledge
[19:32] <SchrodingersScat> slowlearn11: cat /etc/issue
[19:32] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: are you using bash?
[19:32] <bennie> .
[19:32] <slowlearn11> SchrodingersScat: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[19:33] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: how to check ?
[19:34] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: echo $SHELL
[19:34] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: yes it's bash
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> slowlearn11: for a in *; do tee $a /dev/null | grep something; done
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Etc
[19:34] <slowlearn11> ActionParsnip:  nope
[19:34] <slowlearn11> exactly the same
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> slowlearn11: gah, tee should spit out to the terminal too. Boo. Try asking in #bash too
[19:35] <Amoz> slowlearn11, doesnt "./${f}" work?
[19:36] <Amoz> I haven't followed the discussion Fyi.
[19:36] <trism> slowlearn11: the problem with a file named - and cat is this part of the manpage: With no FILE, or when FILE is -, read standard input.
[19:38] <tortib> Hi everyone
[19:38] <tortib> I'm running the following command: tar zcvpf etc.tgz --exclude='/etc/ssh/' --exclude='/etc/X11' --exclude='/etc/network/interfaces/' --exclude='/etc/mtab' --exclude='/etc/fstab' --exclude='/etc/init.d/' /etc/
[19:38] <tortib> but it isn't excluding the exclusions from the tarball
[19:38] <Amoz> tortib, they need to be a pattern, like regex, I believ
[19:39] <tortib> oh so /etc/init.d/* ?
[19:39] <Amoz> tortib, / is a special character in regex
[19:39] <Amoz> try escaping it
[19:39] <Amoz> '\/etc\/file'
[19:39] <tortib> k
[19:40] <trevor_> i need help
[19:40] <Amoz> trevor_, ask away
[19:40] <tortib> Amoz: that didn't do it (I thought / was a special character for PERL regular expressions only, not POSIX).
[19:41] <trevor_> my compiz desktop cube quit working it was working last night but when i powered on today it wasn't working
[19:41] <trevor_> can someone help me?
[19:42] <trevor_> hello
[19:42] <popey> !ask | trevor_
[19:42] <sergey__> wow
[19:43] <trevor_> compiz desktop cube has stopped working on my pc it was working lastnight before i powered off my computer
[19:43] <trevor_> same with the animations
[19:43] <Amoz> trevor_, try to describe your problem in detail
[19:44] <sergey__> I can't go to skype
[19:44] <Amoz> trevor_, what do you see? What happens when you boot it, etc
[19:45] <trevor_> nothing happens it if i set the transparency up on the cube on the desktop there is no cube there
[19:45] <trevor_> its like the plugin says its installed but its not
[19:45] <prohobo> hey uh... whenever i boot ubuntu i get some kind of error saying "unkown chipset"
[19:46] <prohobo> and it fails to mount both my SSD and my HDD
[19:47] <trevor_> Wobbly windows effects still work and everything else but desktop cube work work...
[19:47] <yofun> Why am I unable to increase /dev/sda8? http://oi59.tinypic.com/z4xt3.jpg
[19:48] <prohobo> should i just follow the suggestions it gives me on the "failed to mount" error?
[19:49] <yofun> Why am I unable to increase /dev/sda8? http://oi59.tinypic.com/z4xt3.jpg
[19:50] <rww> yofun: because there's no unallocated space before or after it...
[19:50] <yofun> rww:  how can I fix the issue?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> yofun: is sda8 unmounted?
[19:50] <rww> by creating unallocated space before or after it
[19:51] <yofun> No, im on a live disk.
[19:51] <yofun> live disk to increase sda8
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> yofun: run: mount | grep sda8 ,do you get any output?
[19:51] <yofun> no output
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> yofun: if you mount it then unmount it, does it help?
[19:52] <rww> Mounting doesn't have anything to do with the fact that there isn't any unallocated space for yofun to resize their partition into.
[19:52] <yofun> ActionParsnip: cant seem to mount it via gparted.
[19:53] <yofun> Yea, I was thinking how is this related.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> yofun: use terminal then, or nautilus....
[19:53] <yofun> how do I move the space around? si I can increase sda8
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> rww: oic
[19:53] <rww> yofun: do you know what's on /dev/sda9?
[19:54] <yofun> I do not.
[19:54] <yofun> how can I mount it and look?
[19:54] <rww> would probably be a good idea to find out, and then either delete it or move it to the end of that unallocated space after it
[19:55] <rww> then you'll have about 87GB right after /dev/sda8, and can resize
[19:55] <rww> 89**
[19:55] <yofun> how do I mount sda9?
[19:55] <expunge> yofun: sudo mount /dev/sda9 /path/of/choice
[19:56] <yofun> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda9 sda9
[19:56] <yofun> mount: mount point sda9 does not exist
[19:56] <BillyBob73> Afternoon all. Newb here problem with laptop running Ubuntu 14(latest stable) info to come on tablet....
[19:56] <yofun> It seems to be a unkown table
[19:56] <rww> that means the mount point you're trying to mount to doesn't exist
[19:56] <rww> it needs to be a directory that exists...
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: what is the issue?
[19:56] <yofun> oh
[19:57] <BillyBob73> Got the install done yesterday added some stuff chrome heart got Wi-Fi going etc
[19:57] <yofun> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:57] <rww> then it doesn't know what it is either.
[19:57] <rww> which makes sense, since gparted didn't
[19:57] <yofun> Yep -_- so anyway to find out what it is?
[19:58] <yofun> I think it might be something winodws 8 related?
[19:58] <x_root> what's the problem yofun?
[19:58] <expunge> yofun: where's this partition from?
[19:58] <BillyBob73> Irma a presario c500.  Closed lid it went to hibernate yesterday couldn't wake it ended up hard power rest
[19:58] <sillopotatis1> Hey
[19:58] <expunge> hi sillo
[19:58] <yofun> http://oi59.tinypic.com/z4xt3.jpg
[19:58] <sillopotatis1> Im trying to learn about SSH servers
[19:59] <expunge> sillopotatis1: cool
[19:59] <yofun> im trying to increase sda8, but I have to find out what sda9 is
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: is the OS fully updated?
[19:59] <sillopotatis1> where do I find beginner info?
[19:59] <BillyBob73> Sorry on tablet.   Anyway i used it powered down all good.   Used it today and lid got sit opened it and it wouldn't wake again
[19:59] <BillyBob73> Action it was yes
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: they are simple creatures but offer a lot of functionality, what do you want to do?
[19:59] <expunge> yofun: looks like nothing at all
[20:00] <napalm_> zo aug 24 22:00:02 CEST 2014
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: what is the output of: free -m ,use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to host the output
[20:00] <sillopotatis1> I want to see whats possible
[20:00] <sillopotatis1> First I want control of the server, like a VM
[20:01] <BillyBob73> So i hard power reset again this yum one it passes boot loader i get garbled screen then subsequent tries give a black screen with LeFT side of white matrix like letter like not full screen
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: tunneling (like a proxy). Sftp server, x forwarding (run apps like a Citrix server)
[20:01] <Guest93020> hi all, anyone here depending on Google Drive and using InSync (or another alternative) to be able to use it on a linux client?
[20:01] <BillyBob73> I have grub up now in edit mode
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: hard poweroffs arent good for computers.
[20:02] <sillopotatis1> actionparsnip: hmm, can I use that to log onto the servers desktop remotely?
[20:02] <OerHeks> !info grive
[20:03] <expunge> Guest93020: why do you ask
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: you can run GUI apps and they wil stick to the client system
[20:03] <test0> 14.04 lts livedisk, need to intall wine from binary (deb), no internet
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: if you make an ssh tunnel you can use it to secure vnc
[20:03] <BillyBob73> Yeah. I have c corrupted something but no idea where to start, betting x  but I'm too newb to know loll. Almost need hand holding
[20:03] <Guest93020> Grive has it's limitations (not syncing correctly, not syncing .gdoc or gsheet files
[20:03] <test0> what do i get from http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/binary/?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: you
[20:04] <Guest93020> and insync says it does those things (costs 15 dollars)
[20:04] <Guest93020> using Grive atm
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: you'll find there is a sleeker solution to what you want to do than getting the full desktop
[20:04] <x_root> someone know how to fix the wallpaper? http://i.imgur.com/u2JmGu3.png
[20:04] <sillopotatis1> actionparsnip: GUI apps like a torrent client and a file browser?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Sil
[20:04] <x_root> is the only thing missing.. but.. why?
[20:04] <OerHeks> Guest93020, maybe this old howto works.. didn't know insync is paid stuff
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: torrent clients like transmission have web interfaces, you dont need a full desktop for that
[20:04] <OerHeks> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/insync-repository-available-for-ubuntu.html
[20:05] <Guest93020> tnx OerHeks oldwitch :)
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: sftp will allow you to copy files to an from the system securely
[20:05] <expunge> Guest93020: https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: this is why I always ask the requirements.  People think hey need hthe full desktop, they usual
[20:06] <sillopotatis1> Smart
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: usually don't
[20:06] <OerHeks> Guest93020, what are those limitations?
[20:06] <Guest93020> Auto Sync only detects changes in your local Google Drive files and folders.
[20:06] <Guest93020> Symbolic links are not supported
[20:06] <Guest93020> Downloading Google Documents is not yet possible.
[20:06] <sillopotatis1> thanks for the help, im going to read up on it
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: I manage torrents using transdrone, it connects to the web UI so you can add and remove etc torrents on the server
[20:07] <BillyBob73> Iirc ctrl alt f1 should give me a terminal right ¿
[20:08] <trism> BillyBob73: ctrl+alt+t
[20:08] <BillyBob73> Ran a memtest and rebooting
[20:08] <trism> BillyBob73: oh wait I know what you mean, nm, you're right
[20:10] <BillyBob73> Well no garbled screen but it a black and doing nothing now no terminal.  I'm thinking a fresh install
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> Guest93020: I just started syncing my gdrive using owncloud
[20:11] <Guest93020> SchrodingersScat: tnx for the tip, too bad i need to pay for each owncloud installation on my nas :(
[20:11] <SchrodingersScat> ok
[20:11] <Guest93020> it's not much, but i need to pay for every new version; https://rnxtras.com/addons/owncloud-7-readynas-4-x86
[20:12] <sajan> wafflejock,
[20:14] <Amoz> tortib, did you solve it? It will only work for files, at least it worked for fstab when I did tar --exclude='\/etc\/fstab' -zcf test.tgz /etc
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest93020: how is this Ubuntu related?
[20:15] <samthewildone> how do I partition a USB for FAT32 on ubuntu ?
[20:15] <Guest93020> i'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and the Grive-package. Was wondering if someone else had switched to another tool too?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: use gparted
[20:16] <BillyBob73> Could someone pastie a good grub cfg for 14 stable
[20:16] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, no luck
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: or fdisk in cli
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: what is "14 stable"
[20:17] <havarka> BillyBob73, try grub customizer
[20:17] <BillyBob73> Ubuntu 14 stable
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: it doesnt exist
[20:17] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/A4AD8JH7
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: ubuntu 14.04 exists, is that what you mean?
[20:17] <BillyBob73> I wanna make sure my boy loader cf ain't the boy problem
[20:18] <BillyBob73> Action.  Yes
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: ok, then run: sudo umount /dev/sdb1; sudo mk2fs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[20:18] <KM0201> help
[20:18] <KM0201> oops
[20:18] <KM0201> sorry
[20:18] <x_root> someone know how can i fix this? http://i.imgur.com/u2JmGu3.png
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: then why not say hat, rather than naming something that simply doesnt exist?
[20:19] <havarka> ActionParsnip, whats the issue?
[20:19] <theadmin> x_root: Fix what?
[20:19] <m3n3chm0> hello, anyone uses sopcast-player on 14.04, since I've upgraded to 14.04 sopcast-player sound no work
[20:19] <x_root> the wallpaper "missing"
[20:19] <BillyBob73> Sorry I'm newb it said stable when i DL'd it
[20:20] <samthewildone> samthewildone@Olympus:~$ sudo mk2fs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[20:20] <samthewildone> sudo: mk2fs.vfat: command not found
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: yes but the site says Ubuntu 14.04 not Ubuntu 14
[20:20] <Guest93020> SchrodingersScat: can you point me on my way to a walkthrough of your setup? or a good description. I wanna know how it works before buying Owncloud or Insync
[20:20] <havarka> x_root, click on desktop on desktop preferences?!
[20:20] <theadmin> samthewildone: mkfs, not mk2fs
[20:20] <BillyBob73> My fault it is 14.04
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: so being a "newb" isnt a factor here, its simple reading which you are clearly ok at
[20:20] <x_root> right click don't work there havarka..
[20:21] <samthewildone> then what do I do
[20:21] <theadmin> x_root: I think Nautilus handles the desktop
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> x_root: what is the output pf: cat /etc/issue
[20:21] <theadmin> x_root: So start that
[20:21] <havarka> x_root, do you want icons as well?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: omgubuntu have a guide called "sticking it to grub", you can chroot to the installed OS from LiveCD and fix grub
[20:22] <ubunt> I install xzgv and output a error (xzgv:2483): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[20:22] <x_root> no.. just the wallpaper.. when i lock, is there.. in gnome, is there as well.. but in unity or anything related.. no.. =/
[20:22] <ubunt> can you help me?
[20:22] <tortib> Amoz: I figured out the tar issue, it was the trailing slash -.-
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> ubunt: are you running on a server OS (no desktop)?
[20:22] <x_root> ActionParsnip, cat /etc/issue
[20:22] <x_root> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:22] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, I did the command now what do I do ?
[20:22] <BillyBob73> Action i well run the dvd bbiaf
[20:23] <havarka> x_root: sudo apt-get install nitrogen
[20:23] <ubunt> yes
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> Guest93020: can install owncloud on just about any linux distro, here's the bit about google drive: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/7.0/user_manual/external_storage/google_drive.html
[20:23] <ubunt> in ubuntu server
[20:23] <Raff> I'm going to install ubuntu 14.04 and I want to install Xen Hypervisor after, I have an SSD 120Gb and a HDD 1Tb, how should be the partitioning method?
[20:23] <havarka> x_root, then run it, it should work
[20:23] <theadmin> ubunt: Then you can't use graphical apps...
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: you have now fomatted he USB to FAT32.
[20:23] <theadmin> ubunt: Unless you install a desktop, that is.
[20:23] <ubunt> is not posible to see a pictures from command lines?
[20:23] <x_root> sudo apt-get install nitrogen
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> ubunt: if the application needs a GUI you will need a desktop
[20:24] <x_root> oops.. misplaced the terminal :P
[20:24] <theadmin> ubunt: You can view images from the terminal, I can't quite recall what app does it though
[20:24] <BillyBob73> Irma running memtest still, gonna let it finish
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ubunt: you could connect via SSH from another Pc with an X server and it will show
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> Guest93020: I wouldn't have expected it to be a paid app for your nas, so not sure what to recommend
[20:24] <OerHeks> ubunt xzgv  is not a terminal app
[20:25] <Guest93020> SchrodingersScat: tnx anyway for your help :-), i really dont know what to do, gonna check out the grive-commands instead of the Gui to find out why it does not sync that well
[20:25] <ubunt> there aren't programs to run in command line for see pictures?
[20:25] <lang> ubunt: yes
[20:25] <ubunt> how?
[20:25] <lang> ubunt: fbi fx. can show the via framebuffer
[20:25] <OerHeks> !info caca-utils
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Raff: 120Gb as / with /var and /home on the platter based drive.
[20:26] <theadmin> ubunt: There are, fbi for example
[20:26] <lang> 'links' show images on webpages via framebuffer
[20:26] <ubunt> but caca-utils  view in image-ascii
[20:26] <OerHeks> cacaview /PATH/TO/image.jpg   or mplayer -vo caca /PATH/TO/video.mpg
[20:26] <theadmin> ubunt: Use fbi, it will show the image properly
[20:27] <OerHeks> but you didn't ask for video in terminal, sorry
[20:27] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, thank you
[20:27] <ubunt> with fbi i can to view a picture?
[20:28] <lang> ubunt: yes.  apt-cache show fbi
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: easy stuff dude
[20:28] <BillyBob73> OK biting to dvd to run the live side
[20:29] <BillyBob73> Ugh
[20:29] <mbwe> i was wondering if its possible with uck (ubuntu customize kit) to install custom compiled binaries?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: don't you have the media you installed with?
[20:29] <theadmin> mbwe: Yes, just open a customisation terminal and do whatever you want with the distro
[20:30] <BillyBob73> It's something else getting same black screen with about to characters in white scrolling constantly now
[20:30] <BillyBob73> Same c crap i got when biting from hd
[20:32] <BillyBob73> Shutdown hard unplugged and pulled battery....
[20:34] <BillyBob73> Wow.   That worked, battery pull
[20:36] <BillyBob73> Time to research the sleep/suspend/resume and only do a shutdown
[20:36] <Bashing-om> BillyBob73: Large enough 'swap' partition ?
[20:37] <BillyBob73> I keep getting the login keyring was not unlocked whee an you logged in to the computer as a single user during install i set to auto login
[20:38] <BillyBob73> Bashing. No idea. I did a default install from 14.04 DVD
[20:38] <wafflejock> BillyBob73: even though you auto-login the keyring has it's own password too
[20:39] <BillyBob73> Same seems to work
[20:39] <wafflejock> BillyBob73: you must have set it to be the same the first time it asked to create the keyrign
[20:39] <hesco> Running: update-locale LANG=en_US.utf8 did not change the output of locale.  Am I missing something here?
[20:39] <wafflejock> keyring*
[20:40] <tortib> Hello, can someone help me with this problem I'm having while installing cacti?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8134395/
[20:40] <Bashing-om> BillyBob73: Keyring issue, can not help with .. I am not a proponent of circumventing security by using "autologin" .
[20:40] <BillyBob73> I don't recall the login ring during install
[20:40] <wafflejock> BillyBob73: I think it asks on first boot when it first tries to use the keyring not during install
[20:40] <BillyBob73> Not a problem really
[20:41] <wafflejock> yeah I just deal with it.. have to type my password once is not a huge deal, think it needs it for the wifi connection on boot, otherwise usually something soon after boot
[20:42] <tortib> It appears it installed fine but I've never seen this error before
[20:42] <BillyBob73> Idk. Ihad a problem with the Wi-Fi in the presario c500 but fixed it relatively easy with some research
[20:44] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:45] <Bashing-om> tortib: from: apt-cache show cacti -> "This package requires a functional MySQL database server" . Do you meet this criteria ?
[20:45] <tortib> Bashing-om: I install mysql-server before hand
[20:45] <tortib> Bashing-om: what's the meta package for LAMP stack in ubuntu?
[20:46] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:46] <wheatthin> tortib, install tasksel, and select the profile
[20:46] <tortib> wheatthin: is taskel a CLI app? or gui?
[20:46] <wheatthin> cli
[20:47] <tortib> okay ty
[20:47] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:48] <tortib> wheatthin: once I install taskel and select the profile what do I do next?
[20:48] <tortib> tasksel*
[20:51] <wirser> Hi, I'm currently performing distribution upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04. I know I'll need to shutdown before completing it what is the safest way?
[20:51] <Delian> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:52] <wafflejock> wirser: is it headless? is it on a VPS? or are you talking about a desktop install?
[20:52] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:52] <wafflejock> !patience | user-pc__
[20:53] <Delian> ok  thank you:)
[20:53] <sajan_> wafflejock,
[20:53] <wafflejock> user-pc__: it looks like you have a support issue open with bitdefender and they are suggestion you run some script... I haven't used them though
[20:53] <Beldar> user-pc__, Not enough info and a 3rd party app, technically not supported.
[20:53] <wirser> wafflejock: on a p3 laptop so I'd say desktop
[20:54] <Delian> well i have the script but i can not at all figure out how to do it .
[20:54] <Bashing-om> tortib: LAMP is a lump sum of bunches of things: see if this helps: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu .
[20:55] <user-pc__> how to make that script exucutable on linux ?
[20:55] <wafflejock> user-pc__: sudo chmod a+x filehere.sh
[20:56] <wafflejock> user-pc__: that adds execution for the owner group and other
[20:56] <thrillERboy> Hi I have ubuntu installed on my USB drive I selected the 4 GB persistant file option with pendrivelinux installer, my host drive is 16 GB . I would like to expand the file system more to say 10 GB. how can I do it? thanks
[20:56] <wafflejock> tortib: I have a vid on this too, might be helpful (was 12.04 but mostly the same) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA
[20:56] <user-pc__> so what is that :  sudo sh bd.sh
[20:58] <stevie> hey
[20:59] <stevie> what can install on ubuntu to adjust treble, bass, and stuff
[20:59] <user-pc__> please can anyone help me with it ?
[20:59] <stevie> for speakers
[20:59] <jhutchins> stevie: The standard mixers should have controls for that if the driver for your audio chipset has those features.  Many don't.
[21:00] <user-pc__> where i should safe that script first?
[21:01] <T4b> Pretty new install, everything on one partition. After the install I shrank it to 5GB, moved it to another harddrive (gparted copy and paste feature), bootet it once and then grew it to 50GB again. When looking at it from another install with gparted everything seemed and seems okay (i.e. 50GB partition/5GB used). When I look at it with gparted form the running installation, it shows almost 50GB used of 50. df says almost 5GB of 5 used.
[21:01] <jhutchins> user-pc__: What happens when you try to run it?
[21:01] <Guest93213> i need some help
[21:02] <Guest93213> anyone know about macs
[21:02] <user-pc__> crash every time
[21:02] <wafflejock> !mac | Guest93213
[21:02] <jhutchins> user-pc__: I don't think your instructions were good, you need to have the path of the executable.  If you're in the current directory, that should be ./bd.sh
[21:02] <user-pc__> so there is the solution but i can not figure out how to add the script
[21:02] <Klystron> 93213 - macs that run ubuntu?
[21:02] <Guest93213> no im locked out my mac and tryna get in
[21:03] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:03] <jhutchins> user-pc__: What do you mean crash?
[21:03] <Klystron> Maybe there's a Mac channel
[21:03] <Guest93213> my mac dont read my mouse or keyboard and im stuck in tha login screen
[21:03] <jhutchins> Guest93213: Apple has excellent support
[21:03] <jhutchins> Guest93213: Are you running ubuntu on it?
[21:03] <Klystron> he said no
[21:04] <user-pc__> just gone
[21:04] <Guest93213> no im runnin ubuntu on windows
[21:04] <Klystron> ON Windows?
[21:04] <user-pc__> http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[21:04] <thrillERboy> Hi I have ubuntu installed on my USB drive I selected the 4 GB persistant file option with pendrivelinux installer, my host drive is 16 GB . I would like to expand the file system more to say 10 GB. how can I do it? thanks
[21:05] <PCLine_> I am running Ubuntu in windows also!
[21:05] <jhutchins> user-pc__: If you don't tell us what happens when you run that command we can't help you.  Does it do nothing or does it give you an error?
[21:05] <Klystron> ON, IN ?  I am running it as a guest VM under Windows
[21:05] <Elisabeth22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.ly/1mFMmyS
[21:05] <Klystron> as that what you guys mean?
[21:06] <deamosreapos> Evening
[21:06] <deamosreapos> Is there anyone availeble with some knowledge in scripting and such?
[21:06] <deamosreapos> (and awake :D)
[21:06] <user-pc__> nothing at all just close the program, so there is solution the patch but i can not figure out how to ad it in order to work
[21:06] <PCLine_> VirtualPC in Win7 and HyperV in Win8.1
[21:06] <jhutchins> Klystron: You can install Linux either as a dual-boot or as the only operating system on a Mac.
[21:06] <deamosreapos> Im running a raspbian OS on a raspberry (noone reacts there) and I want to run a simple startup script
[21:07] <deamosreapos> But whatever guide I use none are working and its driving me mad (:
[21:07] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Try sudo sh ./bd.sh
[21:07] <eanyx> hi
[21:07] <karab44> I have G940 joystick but not all wheels are working
[21:07] <eanyx> does any of you have tried ubuntu 14.10 ?
[21:07] <karab44> any ideas how to fix that?
[21:08] <iceroot_> eanyx: #ubuntu+1
[21:08] <Klystron> jhutchins: right, but then you are simply running Ubuntu when you boot Ubuntu.
[21:08] <mumu__> join #ltsb
[21:08] <eanyx> thank you iceroot_
[21:08] <user-pc__> ok but what about that patch? what i must do with it ? how and where to safe it please
[21:08] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: How raspian handles startup scripts is probably different than how ubuntu handles startup scripts.  raspian is not related to ubuntu.
[21:08] <mumu__> join #ltsp
[21:08] <wirser> which would be better to just shut down the pc or to (using say CNTR  c to shut down the distribution  upgrade program?
[21:08] <user-pc__> http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:09] <Klystron> raspian is related to ubuntu only in the sense that they both are derived from Debian
[21:09] <jhutchins> Klystron: If he were running ubuntu, we might be able to help him, but for OSX he needs to go to Apple support.
[21:09] <expunge> unices, heh
[21:09] <deamosreapos> I know but its a debian based question not ubuntu nor raspbian
[21:09] <user-pc__> http://pastebin.com/49sL3wtF
[21:10] <deamosreapos> How can we solve this with ubuntu if it was that ? :)
[21:10] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: If the IRC channel isn't responsive you'll probably get better results from user forums or mailing lists.
[21:10] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: Like I said, different OS, different startup system.
[21:10] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: It probably uses sysvinit rather than systemd.
[21:12] <user-pc__> please will you spend just one min with my issue
[21:12] <Klystron> Raspian is a modified Debian Wheezy.  Maybe look at Debian Wheezy if you can't find dox enough for raspian
[21:13] <wafflejock> yup would go with Klystron's advice here deamosreapos
[21:13] <expunge> 238 people in #raspbian
[21:13] <samthewildone> So the multisystem boot on did 50% of the job
[21:13] <wafflejock> I run raspbian too for some things but for support for that OS I'd look to the base OS instructions probably your best bet
[21:13] <wafflejock> deamosreapos: ^
[21:14] <deamosreapos> thanks :) Ill try that ^^
[21:14] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > bdgui
[21:14] <wafflejock> stevie: there might be some software equalizers built into Amarok or other audio players, I know winamp used to have one
[21:14] <user-pc__> *** Error in `bdgui': free(): invalid pointer: 0xb6c69478 ***
[21:14] <user-pc__> Aborted
[21:15] <wafflejock> user-pc__: you'll need to get support from the company/support people who supplied the script, giving them this error will probably help too and give them info from, lsb_release -a and uname -a
[21:16] <user-pc__> they just did help me - they give me a script but i need help here how to do it
[21:16] <user-pc__> http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[21:17] <Klystron> stevie: Clementine is a great mediaplayer based on Amarok but better.  It does have an equalizer setting.
[21:17] <user-pc__> sudo sh bd.sh     ??????
[21:17] <Klystron> Better IMHO
[21:17] <expunge> user-pc__: ??????????
[21:17] <wafflejock> user-pc__: sounds like you were already able to run it many other users complaining with the same problem here http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:17] <wafflejock> user-pc__: no anwer from bd though or otherwise in that post at least
[21:18] <user-pc__> how to execute that and how and where to safe the script please
[21:18] <Exagone313> user-pc__: ask where is bd.sh
[21:18] <tortib> does anyone know the sysctl option to disable kernel pointers?
[21:19] <user-pc__> all is here but still for me is black magic http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:19] <Exagone313> user-pc__: but I think it is the script on this link
[21:19] <motaka2> hello I can't install teaviewer by double clicking on it's .deb  package. nothing happens. what should I do ?
[21:19] <expunge> user-pc__: use clamav, done
[21:19] <expunge> motaka2: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[21:19] <expunge> motaka2: or just use the tarball version
[21:20] <Exagone313> motaka2: or right click > open with (may work)
[21:21] <user-pc__> yes the script is there ,thats the one  but i have no idea how to run it or however you call it i am new in linux so please someone just to have a look and give me a tip , i know how easy for you is that guys please !
[21:23] <user-pc__> there are just two steps to do so please will someone explain me how to make it please !!!http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:25] <Klystron> user_pc__: run a script this way (quotes are for clarity and would not be typed): "sudo ./myscript.sh" if you are already in the same directory as the script.  Otherwise replace "./" with the proper path to it.  I know a lot of people call "sh" to run a script but I get by without that usually.
[21:25] <wirser> user-pc: do you know how to use the terminal program?
[21:25] <Klystron> bonk... good point
[21:26] <user-pc__> yes i know how to use terminal but if i copy the script then what?
[21:26] <user-pc__> where should i past it?
[21:26] <expunge> nowhere, why would you want to use some weird av
[21:27] <Klystron> user-pc__: the script has to have execute permissions set.
[21:28] <Klystron> user-pc__: see the chmod command or use a GUI file manager to change permissions.
[21:28] <user-pc__> yes i know but where i put that script?
[21:29] <jhutchins> No, the script does not need execute permissions if it executed with sh as shown.
[21:29] <wirser> unless told otherwise in you home directory will do
[21:29] <Klystron> have you looked at the content of the script?  a lot of well written scripts will work even if not located in a specific directory
[21:30] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo sh bd.sh
[21:30] <user-pc__> [sudo] password for user-pc:
[21:30] <user-pc__> sh: 0: Can't open bd.sh
[21:30] <havarka> guys, how to install deluge 1.3.7 in lubuntu, it doesnt want to accept its ppa key?!
[21:30] <Klystron> jhutchins: ahh.  maybe that's why so many people call scripts with sh
[21:30] <Kamuela> When I do sudo apt-get update, the update hangs for a very long time at a particular place but it's not easy to see what it is. What would be the best way to figure out what repo is causing this?
[21:31] <havarka> Kamuela try to change the location from where you download
[21:31] <Klystron> kameula: doesn't the output to the terminal show you what it is doing at the time?
[21:32] <user-pc__> ?
[21:33] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:34] <Klystron> user-pc__: try without the "sh" part.  do it like "sudo ./bd.sh"
[21:34] <Klystron> no quotes obviously
[21:34] <user-pc__> sudo ./bd.sh
[21:34] <user-pc__> sudo: ./bd.sh: command not found
[21:35] <wafflejock> user-pc__: that means you aren't in the same folder as the bd.sh file
[21:35] <Klystron> if you do an "ls -alh" is it listed?
[21:35] <Klystron> by it i mean the bd.sh file
[21:35] <user-pc__> the file dont exist yet !! that was my problem where and how i put the file ?
[21:35] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Wow, finally some useful information.
[21:36] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Put it in your home or downloads directory.
[21:36] <Klystron> the ls command will list the contents of the directory you are in
[21:36] <user-pc__> but how please?
[21:36] <k1l> user-pc__: put it where you wan
[21:36] <k1l> *want
[21:36] <OerHeks> user-pc__,  i read back, you did try to run the script, it gave an error, so it existed. and now it is not found?
[21:36] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Then change to that directory and try the original command.
[21:37] <user-pc__> yes coz i delete it i thought is something wrong
[21:37] <thrillERboy> Hi if I delete the casper-rw file in my bootable usb what will happen? will now longer be bootable?
[21:37] <Klystron> user-pc__: what platform are you doing this on?  I saw android in there somewhere I thought.
[21:37] <thrillERboy> Hi if I delete the casper-rw file in my bootable usb what will happen? will it no* longer be bootable?
[21:37] <wafflejock> motaka2: you get that installed?
[21:37] <user-pc__> mint 17
[21:37] <user-pc__> android is my chosen name
[21:37] <Klystron> ok gotcha
[21:38] <Klystron> do this user-pc: sudo apt-get install locate
[21:38] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > uname -a
[21:38] <user-pc__> Linux Android 3.13.0-34-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:49:09 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[21:38] <Klystron> then sudo updatedb
[21:38] <Klystron> then do "locate bd.sh"
[21:39] <Klystron> no quotes
[21:39] <user-pc__> locate is already the newest version.
[21:39] <user-pc__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:39] <Klystron> that will tell you where the script is at
[21:39] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo updatedb
[21:39] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ >
[21:39] <wafflejock> user-pc__: all good now locate
[21:40] <expunge> 'find' is faster, if you have to update your db anyways
[21:40] <Klystron> shhhhh
[21:40] <wafflejock> eh whatever locate is simple
[21:40] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:40] <user-pc__> ?
[21:40] <wafflejock> sajan: hey saw your PM
[21:40] <wafflejock> sajan: not sure what that means, ask the group here
[21:40] <user-pc__> ?
[21:40] <eeee> user-pc__: my money's on ~/Downloads
[21:40] <wafflejock> trying to run memcheck and sajan is getting no ramdisk found in kernel error
[21:40]  * wirser rofl
[21:41] <user-pc__> yes indeed is on downloads
[21:41] <user-pc__> so what now?
[21:41] <eeee> sudo sh ~/Downloads/<scriptname>
[21:41] <Klystron> okay do this
[21:41] <Klystron> cd ~/downloads
[21:42] <eeee> Klystron: ~/Downloads ,
[21:42] <Klystron> then.... sudo ./bd.sh
[21:42] <Klystron> yeah what eeee said
[21:42] <CodeGosu> in linux some programs like winrar can estimate how much space will compressed folder take, are there anything like that in linux or maybe some way to estimate size of compresed folder from commandline
[21:42] <user-pc__> bdcore.so.linux-x86 ................ updated
[21:42] <user-pc__> Update succeeded.
[21:42] <Klystron> or sudo sh ./bd.sh
[21:43] <Klystron> woot!
[21:43] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo sh ./bd.sh
[21:43] <user-pc__> sh: 0: Can't open ./bd.sh
[21:43] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge were you helping me with getting my laptop to burn CD's yesterday?
[21:43] <Klystron> do a ls -alh
[21:43] <wirser> pwd
[21:43] <Klystron> see if eXecute is set
[21:44] <user-pc__> yes it is
[21:44] <Klystron> hmm ok
[21:44] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > bdgui
[21:44] <user-pc__> *** Error in `bdgui': double free or corruption (out): 0xb6c30460 ***
[21:44] <user-pc__> Aborted
[21:44] <user-pc__> user-pc@Androi
[21:44] <Klystron> so the script is running but now erroring out
[21:45] <eeee> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo sh ./bd.sh <<< you're in ~ directory not ~/Downloads
[21:45] <user-pc__> i am not sure if the script is running
[21:45] <wafflejock> CodeGosu: here's the man page info for gzip I don't see a flag for simulation or the like though http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/gzip.1.html
[21:45] <user-pc__> i try to run bdgui
[21:46] <Klystron> user-pc: type this: cd ~/Downloads
[21:46] <expunge> simulation of compression?
[21:46] <Klystron> then do: pwd
[21:46] <Klystron> to verify
[21:46] <OerHeks> CodeGosu, i never found an estimated size during compression option/script
[21:46] <wafflejock> expunge: yeah wants to know the possible estimated size of compression
[21:46] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:46] <expunge> not sure what the point would be
[21:46] <wafflejock> sajan: sup
[21:46] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~/Downloads > pwd
[21:46] <user-pc__> /home/user-pc/Downloads
[21:46] <expunge> you use gzip when you want fast and light compression
[21:46] <wirser> well it's been a slice but library is closing - just shutting down and hoping distribution upgrae picks up where I'm leaving off
[21:46] <expunge> if you have to fit in a specific size, use tar and volumes
[21:47] <expunge> or just 'split' it afterwards
[21:47] <Klystron> great user-pc, you are in your personal downloads directory
[21:47] <user-pc__> :)
[21:47] <Klystron> now do a: ls -alh
[21:47] <Klystron> and see if the file you want is there and has execute set
[21:47] <user-pc__> total 12K
[21:47] <user-pc__> drwxr-xr-x  2 user-pc user-pc 4,0K Αύγ  24 22:46 .
[21:47] <user-pc__> drwxr-xr-x 28 user-pc user-pc 4,0K Αύγ  25 00:45 ..
[21:47] <user-pc__> -rwxr-xr-x  1 user-pc user-pc  509 Αύγ  24 22:46 bd.s
[21:48] <Klystron> i see a bd.s
[21:48] <user-pc__> yes:)
[21:48] <Klystron> no .sh on it?
[21:48] <Klystron> or just incomplete paste
[21:48] <user-pc__> -rwxr-xr-x  1 user-pc user-pc  509 Αύγ  24 22:46 bd.sh
[21:48] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~/Downloads >
[21:48] <Klystron> cool
[21:49] <g0th> hi
[21:49] <Klystron> execute is set for UGO so that's good to go
[21:49] <g0th> how do I add the currently mounted devices to my panel in a recent ubuntu?
[21:49] <Klystron> so type: sudo ./bd.sh
[21:49] <user-pc__> ill pretend i understand :)
[21:49] <Klystron> UGO means user, group, and other
[21:50] <user-pc__> BitDefender Antivirus Scanner for Unices v7.90123 Linux-i586
[21:50] <user-pc__> Copyright (C) 1996-2009 BitDefender. All rights reserved.
[21:50] <user-pc__> This program is licensed for home or personal use only.
[21:50] <user-pc__> Usage in an office or production environment represents
[21:50] <user-pc__> a violation of the license terms
[21:50] <eeee> Unices :D
[21:50] <OerHeks> g0th, just drag them from nautilus filemanager
[21:50] <g0th> I don't have nautilus
[21:51] <OerHeks> g0th, what recent ubuntu do you have then?
[21:51] <eeee> g0th: what do you have?
[21:51] <g0th> I would just like to be able to mount/unlock and umount/lock from the panel
[21:51] <g0th> OerHeks: I don't use nautilus
[21:51] <eeee> g0th: panel meaning launcher?
[21:51] <g0th> yes
[21:51] <k1l> g0th: what ubuntu is it then?
[21:52] <g0th> 14.04
[21:52] <user-pc__> ?
[21:52] <eeee> make a script that checks if it's mounted or not and mounts, if not unmounts and add it as a .desktop
[21:52] <g0th> is there no easy way to add such simple functionality to the panel?
[21:52] <g0th> it was there
[21:52] <wafflejock> g0th: don't think the panel offers that capability like eeee suggests you can add it in
[21:52] <g0th> I accidently clicked remove from panel
[21:52] <g0th> and I would like to get it back
[21:52] <wafflejock> oh well if it used to work maybe I just never noticed
[21:53] <g0th> it does offer it
[21:53] <g0th> it was there
[21:53] <g0th> I try to get it back
[21:53] <eeee> g0th: ok in the dash type the name of the mounted drive, itll appear then drag it as OerHeks suggested
[21:53] <g0th> I just have to find the right command/panel app
[21:53] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~/Downloads > bdgui
[21:53] <user-pc__> *** Error in `bdgui': free(): invalid pointer: 0xb6c62478 ***
[21:53] <user-pc__> Aborted
[21:53] <g0th> ok that worked
[21:53] <g0th> thanks
[21:53] <eeee> np
[21:54] <k1l> g0th: which desktop is it? and why not using nautilus?
[21:55] <n-st> hi, i'm running into what seems to be a kernel bug: whenever i connect a usb 3.0 → msata adapter, the kernel panics after about ten seconds. strangely, this happens with the 3.14 and 3.16 mainline kernels, but not with the 3.13 distribution kernel…
[21:56] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:56] <wafflejock> sajan: sup, no luck with tapping Shift to get into grub menu?
[21:56] <Klystron> user-pc: I can't be much help on troubleshooting the script itself sorry to say.
[21:57] <Klystron> perhaps others in here can.
[21:59] <user-pc__> Never mind i just send the error output to the BD hope they will deall wit it since the problem is already known for 4 years :) thank you for your time and help enjoy the day :)
[22:00] <Klystron> yw
[22:01] <Klystron> good luck
[22:01] <user-pc__> :)
[22:01] <user-pc__> same to you
[22:01] <Klystron> tks
[22:04] <motaka2> wafflejock: no
[22:04] <motaka2> I cant do this
[22:05] <wafflejock> motaka2: you can install gdebi installer
[22:05] <wafflejock> motaka2: sudo apt-get install gdebi
[22:05] <motaka2> wafflejock: doing that
[22:05] <wafflejock> motaka2: then run, sudo gdebi somepackage.deb
[22:06] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:07] <motaka2> wafflejock: What was this doing? I ran this before: and nothing changed
[22:07] <motaka2>  sudo dpkg -i /home/donkarlo/Desktop/teamviewer_linux.deb
[22:07] <wafflejock> motaka2: yeah that should have been fine what do you mean by nothing changed? you can't run teamviewer from the dash?
[22:08] <wafflejock> motaka2: you can use dpkg -L somepackage to see where the files are extracted to from that package
[22:08] <motaka2> wafflejock: sorry I think it is installed
[22:08] <wafflejock> motaka2: yeah sometimes the dash takes a minute to get the updated desktop files for some reason (er at least I know that happened with the K start menu sometimes)
[22:09] <motaka2> wafflejock: Is teamviwer something dangerous?
[22:09] <Griffin> Hello people, when i type cwd in terminal, i get the following message
[22:09] <Griffin> No command 'cwd' found, did you mean:  Command 'cdw' from package 'cdw' (universe)  Command 'cwm' from package 'swap-cwm' (universe)  Command 'pwd' from package 'coreutils' (main)  Command 'xwd' from package 'x11-apps' (main)  Command 'gwd' from package 'geneweb' (universe)  Command 'cw' from package 'cw' (universe) cwd: command not found
[22:09] <OerHeks> Griffin, that looks oke.
[22:09] <wafflejock> motaka2: not really... people don't suggest third party installs because they won't be updated automatically with security fixes, and since we don't have the source there's no way to really fix underlying problems if they're found, I haven't heard anything particularly good or bad about Teamviewer itself
[22:10] <TJ-> Griffin: Maybe you want "pwd" or "echo $PWD" (Present Working Directory)
[22:10] <motaka2> wafflejock: thank you
[22:10] <wafflejock> motaka2: I use VNC viewer through an SSH tunnel when I want a remote GUI personally, but gotta use what works
[22:10] <Griffin> doesnt cwd stand for current working directory
[22:11] <motaka2> wafflejock: someone wants me to teach her Git by teamviewer, i scare she get's access to my files
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Griffin: What did you antcipate as a result of 'cwd' ?
[22:12] <OerHeks> not sure why it is not standard
[22:12] <Griffin> my mistake, i have recently installed ubuntu and was learning commands at the terminal. And i mistaken pwd to cwd
[22:12] <Griffin> Thank you for your help
[22:13] <wafflejock> motaka2: yeah can't say really but I think teamviewer is legit software, if you want to keep it safe you might want to just use Google hangouts so it's all locked in the browser
[22:13] <xy86> hi. i have a headphone jack which is apparently broken; it continually switches in and out and therefore causes the sound from the main jack to cut in and out
[22:13] <xy86> i would like to completely disable the headphone jack, but i'm not sure how to do that
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Griffin: Help is what we do, Welcome to the world of ubuntu.
[22:13] <Griffin> Thank you again for the welcome
[22:13] <xy86> i tried pactl list short links, but it doesn't show up
[22:13] <wafflejock> motaka2: I don't think hangouts lets you do remote control but you can remotely view
[22:13] <expunge> xy86: laptop?
[22:13] <xy86> no desktop
[22:13] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:14] <expunge> xy86: directly on mobo?
[22:14] <xy86> xy86: it is a jack on the case which is is connected by wire to mainboard
[22:14] <Griffin> And also could anyone help me on how to install SFML
[22:14] <xy86> the port directly on the mainboard works fine
[22:14] <expunge> probably just cut the wire, then
[22:14] <linman32> wafflejock: did you help me w/ lockscreen issue last time?
[22:14] <Griffin> i mean sudo apt-get then what
[22:15] <xy86> expunge: lol, that's too obvious now that you mention it; thanks
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Griffin: Define 'SFML" for me.
[22:15] <expunge> xy86: is it stable if you plug a jack into it?
[22:16] <Griffin> its a C++ library
[22:16] <xy86> expunge: not really, i have to turn the plug around and around to get it into the perfect position to be consistent
[22:16] <wafflejock> linxcat: maybe I'm in and out of the Ubuntu chat kinda live in the AngularJS chat, what's up
[22:16] <xy86> i think it is just a bad port on the case
[22:16] <Griffin> http://www.sfml-dev.org/
[22:16] <expunge> xy86: hrmm, sounds like just a bad contact
[22:17] <expunge> xy86: what if you wrap the jack in a bit of aluminium foil and smush it in there
[22:17] <expunge> "super fml"? =P
[22:17] <expunge> bbl
[22:18] <wafflejock> Griffin: http://www.sfml-dev.org/tutorials/2.0/start-linux.php
[22:19] <wafflejock> linman32: are you the one who installed gdm and it started working or the other guy?
[22:19] <Griffin> the other guy, right now i am laughing at myself  lol :P
[22:19] <linman32> wafflejock: maybe other guy. think installed xubuntu.
[22:20] <Griffin> anyways thanks for pointing it :)
[22:20] <wafflejock> hehe no problem yeah it all gets fuzzy in here so many similar problems
[22:21] <inder_gt> hey guys, is there a good resource to learn about ubuntu indicator development?
[22:21] <linman32> wafflejock: the lock screen won't let me in after 10 or so locks. can't type in password field b/c there is none
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Griffin: ^^ "libsfml-doc - Simple and Fast Multimedia Library - Documentation" ya want to read it ? -> sudo apt-get install libsfml-doc<- that readme should then ve located in '/user/share/doc/' .
[22:22] <wafflejock> linman32: k yeah I recall a bit now, so you're okay most of the time but after 10 or so locks the system was acting wonky? is that right?
[22:22] <wafflejock> inder_gt: google turned this up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators probably good to know which environment you're targetting they probably vary
[22:23] <inder_gt> thanks for the linke wafflejock, i already saw that one, but is there an actual api doc or anything like that for this?
[22:23] <inder_gt> link*
[22:24] <linman32> wafflejock: yes. 2nd to last: lock will only ask for password on one screen. system acts wonky; last lock screen: won't let me in at all
[22:25] <linman32> wafflejock: acts wonky by not being able to find applications easily. takes minutes to open word document, etc
[22:25] <yeukhon> how do i find the shell script that was used to make nginx for 12.04?
[22:26] <rypervenche> yeukhon: Shell script?
[22:26] <yeukhon> rypervenche:  well the commands used to compile the nginx package
[22:26] <wafflejock> linman32: yeah when it's in that locking up state would be good to check out the system monitor and see what process is going crazy
[22:26] <yeukhon> i've my own command but not working very well. i would like to find the one debian / ubuntu is using
[22:27] <wafflejock> yeukhon: you can grab the source using apt-get source packagename then see if they include build instructions in the README
[22:27] <yeukhon> wafflejock:  okay let me try that
[22:27] <wafflejock> inder_gt: yeah dunno
[22:27] <rypervenche> yeukhon: There isn't a script that is run. I would use the source deb package and make the changes that you need there then build it.
[22:28] <linman32> wafflejock: first glance trying that, nothing seemed to stand out. after i killed gnome, it logged me out and starting working fine agian
[22:31] <wafflejock> linman32: yeah not sure would need to start looking at logs, you can pastebin your dmesg output, or do cat /var/log/syslog and see if anything stands out
[22:31] <yeukhon> ah i see so the source that was downaloded via apt-get source is the exact source used to compile. now i just need to try
[22:31] <yeukhon> brb
[22:31] <wafflejock> yeukhon: yup gl
[22:32] <sajan_> wafflejock,
[22:35] <yeukhon> wafflejock:  thanks i extracted the debian.tar.gz and found rules fille
[22:35] <yeukhon> i think that's the one i've to edit to recompile
[22:35] <yeukhon> adding additional modules
[22:36] <wafflejock> yeukhon: cool yeah haven't played with ngnix myself just apache and lucily most everything I've needed I just had to enable a module here or there
[22:36] <wafflejock> luckily*
[22:36] <yeukhon> :))
[22:36] <yeukhon> i hope it works. i will let ya know. sounds good. glad i came here first
[22:37] <wafflejock> I've tried to compile apache before and it worked but was on a 200MHz Sparc processor with 256MB of RAM so it took like a day or two
[22:37] <wafflejock> not my favorite time :|
[22:37] <wafflejock> but yeah let me know how it goes
[22:37] <yeukhon> oh i remember those machines. when i was in high school school would dump a dozen of them every year.
[22:37] <yeukhon> :)
[22:37] <linman32> wafflejock: http://pastebin.com/mdHcu0dt
[22:38] <wafflejock> yeah I got one as a NAS here, it's kinda terrible but it does do the job of mirroring data so I keep it
[22:38] <yeukhon> that was ubuntu 8.04 era…  anyhow
[22:38] <wafflejock> yeukhon: it's running debian Sarge some old version
[22:39] <vagrant_> exit
[22:39] <wafflejock> linman32: well looks like some postfix config problems but that shouldn't be causing the system to lock up just some undeliverable mails
[22:40] <wafflejock> linman32: can install pastebinit to make it easier to share stuff, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:40] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:41] <linman32> wafflejock: it is installed now
[22:42] <havarka> hi, http://pastebin.com/2BxTTn0H, does this mean that my 2.5GHZ processor only runs on 1.4 ghz?
[22:43] <Glycan> I'm using lubuntu - LXDE with OpenBox. C-F is bound to xterm, how can I fix this?
[22:43] <wafflejock> linman32: dmesg | pastebinit
[22:43] <wafflejock> linman32: and, cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[22:43] <wafflejock> por flavor
[22:44] <linman32> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8135205/
[22:44] <linman32> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8135207/
[22:45] <wafflejock> havarka: http://serverfault.com/questions/465794/understanding-cpu-related-output-displayed-by-lshw
[22:45] <havarka> wafflejock, thx bro
[22:46] <wafflejock> havarka: np
[22:51] <blackphenix> hey
[22:52] <synthetik> yo
[22:56] <wafflejock> linman32: thanks, digging through these some but first couple of things I tried looking into don't seem to be real problems any more details on when this started happening, post upgrade? clean install?
[22:56] <aib> my apt-get/aptitude is stuck Waiting for headers... how can I see which server it's waiting on ?
[22:57] <odd_nob> hey commandline people, why does it take so long to learn stuff?
[22:58] <Guest60343> because there is so much you can do
[22:58] <wafflejock> odd_nob: sounds like a personal problem :), really though there's just a lot to know, and the more you know the more you realize what there is to know
[22:58] <odd_nob> I mean, I caught myself devoting the whole day on reading documentation and it's still as if I'm nowhere.
[22:59] <wafflejock> odd_nob: you just have to use it I think (at least true for me) the more I do the more I learn
[22:59] <wafflejock> hanging around this chat helps too
[23:00] <Bashing-om> odd_nob: A day ? I have spent 50 years reading documentation. and I am still doing catch up !
[23:00] <wafflejock> haha
[23:00] <odd_nob> wafflejock: but aren't you afraid of breaking stuff when just trying stuff out?
[23:00] <Che_Guevara> it is because you have to read alot . what i did i am just using one theoretical system where you print all the info and then roll it into small rolls and stik it up you stay overnight and walla!
[23:00] <Che_Guevara> you know everything
[23:00] <wafflejock> odd_nob: it's good to use virtual machines when you feel you mightbreak everything
[23:01] <wafflejock> odd_nob: you get comfortable eventually
[23:01] <wafflejock> odd_nob: nice thing about VMs is you can duplicate them before you do something stupid to them and you don't have to panic when you kill the VM
[23:02] <odd_nob> wafflejock: what VM are you using?
[23:02] <wafflejock> odd_nob: I did a setup video here for people looking to get into web-dev on how to install Ubuntu in a VirtualBox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA
[23:02] <odd_nob> ah I guess that answered it there for me :p
[23:03] <linman32> wafflejock: thanks. i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04. then had to reinstall 14.04. i think after the reinstall/install of 14.04 it started failing
[23:04] <yofun> so... im not show how to explain this, on the ubuntu flash screen theres a message saying something like this "mount point "x" is not ready or found S to skip or M for manual" how do I remove these auto mounts? They are incorrect
[23:06] <cynicallemon> yofun: check your /etc/fstab file
[23:06] <Bashing-om> yofun: terminal commands -> sudo fdisk -lu . sudo blkid . cat /ect/fstab <- make sure all UUID's agree.
[23:07] <yofun> Alright, so Its trying to mount like my USB port and windows, how do I remove those auto mounts?
[23:08] <Beldar> yofun, Is windows on the internal HD?
[23:08] <yofun> Beldar: no
[23:08] <Beldar> yofun, So all on the usb?
[23:08] <yofun> no on hard drive
[23:09] <Beldar> yofun, Which one?
[23:09] <yofun> /dev/sda8
[23:09] <Beldar> and where is it?
[23:09]  * cynicallemon now confused
[23:09] <Beldar> yofun, which is an internal HD right?
[23:09] <yofun> None...
[23:09] <yofun> Windows and ubuntu are on different tables.
[23:10] <Beldar> yofun, Do you know the difference between and internal and external HD?
[23:10] <yofun> Eariler I was messing around with a few things, and now it trys to auto mount upon start up
[23:10] <yofun> Yes..... BOTH systems are on my hard drive.
[23:10] <freeland> slt tout le monde es lustres que je n est pas utilisé l irc pour changer de chanel c est par ou ?
[23:10] <Beldar> yofun, Inside the computer correct?
[23:10] <yofun> Yes....
[23:10] <Beldar> yofun, That is internal.
[23:11] <popey> !fr | freeland
[23:11] <yofun> doh.. I know this
[23:11] <yofun> Im asking how do I remove the auto mounts?
[23:11] <freeland> merci :)
[23:11] <popey> freeland: ☻
[23:11] <yofun> And its trying to mount a USB port. that isnt filled
[23:12] <popey> yofun: what if you go to system settings -> details -> Removable media and tick "never promt or start programs on media insertion" ?
[23:12] <Beldar> yofun, open fstab gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and if you have the sda8 there check the uuid's with sudo blkid comment it out with a #
[23:14] <yofun> Alright let restart and test it out.
[23:20]  * Beldar notes the irc is like the abbot and costello who's on first joke at times
[23:20] <yofun> Perfect
[23:24] <Beldar> yofun, hits one over the fence and crosses home.
[23:24] <wafflejock> linman32: have you tried with any other DE like using xubuntu packages instead of Gnome?
[23:25] <wafflejock> linman32: sorry can't see anything in the log that is obvious
[23:26] <cimbakahn> Any ubuntu developers in the room?
[23:27] <wafflejock> linman32: looks like lots of these nl_recvmsgs errors some bluetooth failures and postman config problems but nothing that points to a system lock up
[23:27] <odd_nob> wafflejock: I enjoyed that video, I don't have time to watch it all, but from what I've seen it's pretty in-depth.
[23:27] <wafflejock> cimbakahn: I'm a developer who uses Ubuntu :) not sure about ubuntu devs in the room though
[23:28] <odd_nob> I hope I'm soon to be a developer :)
[23:28] <wafflejock> odd_nob: cool glad you find it useful, know it was long it's a common complaint if I do more tut vidoes in the future I'll try to make them more bit sized
[23:28] <cimbakahn> I am on Linuxmint 17 Qiana Xfce.  minetest 0.4.10 was released.  Do you think they can update it in Synaptic?  Also pcsxr 1.9.93 was released.  Do you think they can update it in Synaptic?
[23:28] <cocorito> ciao
[23:28] <wafflejock> bite*
[23:28] <odd_nob> wafflejock: no it's ok, just make sure you divide it into either smaller videos or just add timestamps like you did with this video
[23:29] <cimbakahn> I was told by the Linuxmint channel that i had to ask here.
[23:32] <rww> cimbakahn: minetest 0.4.10 is in Ubuntu Utopic (not released yet), so whichever version of Mint takes packages from Utopic (or higher) will include it
[23:33] <wafflejock> Utopic is 14.10?
[23:33] <rww> wafflejock: yes
[23:33] <rww> cimbakahn: pcsxr 1.9.93 is not yet in Ubuntu or Debian. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739947 for details
[23:34] <cimbakahn> Do you mean ubuntu's new version us goin to be called Utopic?
[23:34] <rww> cimbakahn: no, Utopic is the development codename for the release that will presumably be called 14.10
[23:34] <cimbakahn> ooing
[23:34] <cimbakahn> going
[23:35] <rww> Incidentally, this is all in packages.ubuntu.com and packages.debian.org, which one would expect the creators of derivatives to be familiar with, but I guess Mint's support channel is not.
[23:37] <cimbakahn> So, you are saying the new minetest will be included in Utopic, but you are not sure about pcsxr?
[23:37] <rww> cimbakahn: Correct about minetest. pcsxr will not be updated in Ubuntu until it's updated in Debian. It has not yet been updated in Debian for the reason discussed in the bug report I linked.
[23:39] <rww> (And it's unlikely to be in Utopic regardless of when it's updated in Debian)
[23:40] <cimbakahn> Ok, TYVM!  i Appreciate a straight foreward answer.
[23:42] <cimbakahn> Bye!
[23:43] <kuldd> hi
[23:43]  * wafflejock you say goodbye and I say hello
[23:43] <eeee> wafflejock: beatles ? :D
[23:43] <wafflejock> hehe yup tune just popped in my head
[23:44] <wafflejock> hello kuldd
[23:44] <netlar> I love working in the dash, but I do feel like I am not making the most of it.  Is there a resource or tutorial I can use to become an expert?
[23:44] <wafflejock> netlar:  you mean in the terminal or in the dash? I didn't know you could work in the dash aside from launching things (I'm fairly Unity ignorant though)
[23:45] <OerHeks> good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:45] <netlar> In the dash, anyone else? lol
[23:45] <kuldd> I have windows 7. I want to install unbuntu from windows and once installed it would give me at the boot time a option to boot from either. I do not want to create multiple partition. I've downloaded iso is that the right version?
[23:45] <netlar> Not the terminal
[23:46] <wafflejock> netlar: what do you want to do from the dash? also what can you do from the dash?
[23:46] <cynicallemon> kuldd: you will need multiple partitions anyway
[23:46] <kuldd> okay can you tell me how to do it
[23:46] <wafflejock> kuldd: the installer will walk you through the process
[23:47] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[23:47] <netlar> wafflejock: lots of searching, apps, files, pictures
[23:47] <kuldd> if I want to deinstall ubuntu then will i be just doing it from ubuntu
[23:47] <kuldd> from windows i mean
[23:47] <netlar> Goodness nevermind
[23:47] <wafflejock> netlar: that's all the dash is meant to do from what I understand
[23:47] <netlar> No one knows what I mean by Dash?
[23:48] <wafflejock> netlar: well you just don't use it for anything from searching... we're talking https://www.google.com/search?q=unity+dash&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=afNyQ2jlBeZ3sM%253A%253BvMISltJ0V20qTM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%25252F2011%25252F03%25252Fa-gnome-menu-style-unity-dash&source=iu&usg=__xLjxGuupJkVVpm3YohCVy2px_Jg%3D&sa=X&ei=wnn6U5nuMNXkoATgxYBQ&ved=0CCgQ9QEwAw&biw=1920&bih=992
[23:48] <wafflejock> sorry huge URL
[23:48] <netlar> wafflejock: yes thta is it
[23:49] <redwalk> Dash is a shell like Bash
[23:49] <wafflejock> netlar: yeah there's nothing advanced to it aside from some preferences you can change from what I've seen
[23:49] <OerHeks> netlar, i think you want Bash scripting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[23:49] <wafflejock> redwalk: Dash is also the term I've seen used for the Unity launcher start menu search screen... maybe there's a more appropriate name
[23:49] <Bashing-om> kuldd: There used to be "WUBI" that is no longer supported. Sounds like what you had in mind . But, No Longer Supported .
[23:49] <redwalk> true
[23:49] <wafflejock> actually didn't know about the terminal Dash though so good to know
[23:50] <netlar> Bash Dash, oh well guess there is no differce
[23:50] <OerHeks> netlar,  that would be lesson 1
[23:50] <kuldd> Bashin-om, (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142325/install-ubuntu-and-keep-windows.html) - i was looking at option number 2 in this site.
[23:50] <netlar> Dude, not talking about working in terminal
[23:51] <netlar> Not command line , in the gui desktop I am talking about
[23:52] <cynicallemon> kuldd: or option 3, download virtualbox and run ubuntu as a virtual machine inside win7
[23:53] <kuldd> are you saying option 2 is no longer supported or an option
[23:53] <Bashing-om> kuldd: Yup, option 2 is WUBI ... As advised, no longer has support. ( but can be done in Windows 7, but still - no support ) .
[23:53] <eeee> netlar: if you right click on something in the dash it'll give you more information, dunno if you already know that though
[23:54] <netlar> eeee: yes, did know that, I did have a question about the filters
[23:54] <wafflejock> kuldd: the windows based installer (wubi) is what they say support has been dropped for, during the regular install it should still show you that windows is installed and show a suggested partitioning
[23:54] <netlar> eeee: I select different ones, but when I go back to the dash they are not selected still
[23:54] <kuldd> would it delete my existing windows or files
[23:55] <wafflejock> kuldd: no not if it detects windows and shows you that it's repartitioning it will just use empty space to create a new partition for Linux, that said if you're completely new to Linux you might want to just try it out in VirtualBox first to avoid modifying your system in any serious way
[23:56] <wafflejock> kuldd: if you find you like it and want to install as a bootable option to have it perform better then you can setup the dual boot option
[23:56] <netlar> Nevermind, think I just figured that out
[23:57] <wafflejock> kuldd: first 20 minutes or so of this video walks through doing the install in virtualbox from scratch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA if you want to give that a shot first
[23:57] <kuldd> ok thanks
[23:57] <wafflejock> kuldd: I typically install various distros in VirtualBox just to see how various projects are coming along, np
[23:57] <wafflejock> and got my Windows 8 in there when I need it
[23:57] <netlar> eeee: Like I see a filter for manpages
[23:58] <netlar> and code
[23:59] <netlar> Also I would be helpfull to know about the sources and what categories it uses