[01:07] <cmaloney> brousch: Thank you. :)
[12:11] <wolfger> Good morning.
[12:20] <brousch> yes
[12:23] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:25] <wolfger> So Ford work was fun for a short while. Now it's feeling like Chrysler... twiddling thumbs and waiting.
[13:50] <cmaloney> heh
[13:50] <cmaloney> Yeah, Ford and Chrysler are quite similar in many regards.
[13:51] <jrwren_> wolfger: you work for Ford?
[13:53] <wolfger> jrwren_: I work for Sandalwood Engineering. We have multiple contracts, including Chrysler and Ford. I used to be a straight-up Chrysler contract worker. Came to Sandalwood about a year ago, and currently working at Ford until the next Chrysler project is ready to go.
[13:53] <jrwren_> wolfger: ah, cool.
[14:05] <wolfger> Variety is always nice. I get to taste multiple flavors of corporate inefficiency. :-D
[14:06] <wolfger> My favorite inefficiency so far is having to run IE8 in a virtual machine to be able to use a Ford-standard IT system.
[14:12] <jrwren_> ha!
[14:13] <cmaloney> Again, not much difference between the two. :)
[14:14] <jrwren_> 'cept for public v. private.
[14:14] <jrwren_> and from what we know, profit v. not.
[14:14] <cmaloney> Culturally they were quite similar when I was there
[14:15] <cmaloney> with folks inside telling me that "The New New New New Chrysler" is even more paranoid than when I was there.
[14:17] <wolfger> cmaloney: confirmed
[14:17] <wolfger> Ford, so far, is much nicer atmospherically.
[14:17] <wolfger> I am back on IRC, after all :-D
[14:18] <cmaloney> Yeah
[15:38] <brousch> http://38.media.tumblr.com/d8f4e193c842f1b15fc489fbc9566dac/tumblr_nal4p9J0151s4df8ko1_1280.png
[15:38] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/r2zGKk - image/png
[15:38] <brousch> Gah, bookiebot, come on. "A Judgemental Map of Detroit" ^
[15:40] <cmaloney> Ted Nugent is no longer in Michigan.
[15:40] <jrwren_> cmaloney: lets sing "ding dong the witch is dead."
[15:41] <cmaloney> har har
[15:42] <wolfger> that map doesn't even cover my city. Phooey.
[15:58] <wolfger> So does bookiebot keep a collection of all links posted here?
[15:58] <cmaloney> wolfger: It used to. Not sure if it still does or not.
[15:59] <cmaloney> https://bmark.us/bookiebot/recent
[16:00] <wolfger> Man, SCO still exists?
[16:00] <greg-g> did Ted bug out in his bug out vehicle with all of his guns and shit?
[16:02] <cmaloney> I think he moved to Texas because Michigan started taxing him too much
[16:08] <cmaloney> Hm, not seeing anything to corroborate that assertion
[16:08] <cmaloney> I think he still has land in Michigan.
[16:11] <wolfger> "I left Detroit because the liberal Democrats engineered the absolute suicide of this fantastic city with their horrific anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-independence agenda," said Nugent.
[16:11] <wolfger> What a loon
[16:14] <wolfger> Nugent still owns 300 acres of property in western Jackson County, which is used as a hunting ranch, known as Sunrize Acres, and a part-time residence for the rocker and his family. Nugent's primary residence is Waco, Texas.
[16:14] <greg-g> *WACO*?!
[16:14] <wolfger> So there you have it... the Motor City Madman is now the Whacko From Waco.
[16:14] <greg-g> muthereffing
[16:14] <wolfger> but he will keep hunting in Michigan
[16:15] <jrwren_> Waco is a pretty nice city.
[16:15] <jrwren_> beautiful ranches. I think it has a river going through it or something, so its not super dry.
[16:17] <wolfger> Yeah, Waco has beautiful ranches... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
[16:17] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/n6GLx - Waco siege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[16:19] <jrwren_> wolfger: yes, Jenett Reno liked to kill inoscent people. She isn't around anymore.
[16:21] <wolfger> The truth will likely never be known, but people who believe they are innocent of wrongdoing usually do not fight authorities to the death.
[16:24] <cmaloney> I'm not sure you can categorically make that statement
[16:25] <wolfger> which statement?
[16:25] <cmaloney> "...people who believe they are innocent of wrongdoing usually do not fight authorities to the death."
[16:26] <wolfger> I think the qualifier of "usually" makes it true.
[16:26] <cmaloney> I'd submit the reverse is more likely
[16:26] <jrwren_> most people would never fight authorities.
[16:26] <cmaloney> if you're innocent you'll fight tooth and nail to continue to be seen in that light
[16:27] <wolfger> Your statement holds true for the innocent man who has lost all faith in the legal system
[16:27]  * greg-g raises hand
[16:27] <wolfger> but most people, in my opinion, have enough faith in the legal system to try the courts over a firefight that logically cannot be won.
[16:27] <greg-g> really? I guess my friend circle is biased
[16:28] <wolfger> at least, once the tv crews get there, I would feel confident in making it to trial
[16:28] <cmaloney> Well, if you're sole organizational purpose is waiting for the eventual breakdown in society and the end of the world having a standoff with armed authorities is the fudge topping to that dessert.
[16:28] <wolfger> prior to tv crews arriving, I would be less willing to come out
[16:28] <wolfger> cmaloney: good point
[16:35] <wolfger> but regarding my statement: I think the number of arrests made without gunfire is a good stat in my favor. :-p
[16:45] <jrwren_> its sad that most people are that naive
[16:46] <jrwren_> number of arrests without gunfire is unrelated.
[16:48] <wolfger> I'm not sure I follow your reasoning here.
[16:52] <jrwren_> most arrests have nothing to do with anyone wanting to fight authorities or even fight for freedom.
[16:52] <jrwren_> If I had to guess, I would guess that DUI constitutes most arrests.
[16:53] <jrwren_> If not most, then highest number of a single type
[16:54] <cmaloney> http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/persons-arrested
[16:54] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/KoTYSE - FBI — Arrests
[16:55] <cmaloney> Highest number (outside of traffic violations) is Drug-related
[16:55] <cmaloney> Which is pathetic
[16:56] <cmaloney> And a good number of those are related to marijuana posession
[16:56] <cmaloney> Which is pathetic
[16:58] <jrwren_> cmaloney: nice.
[16:59] <wolfger> Yes....
[16:59] <wolfger> and?
[17:00] <jrwren_> wolfger: we are not communicating.
[17:00] <wolfger> I'm failing to see how what you're saying is related to what I was talking about.
[17:00] <jrwren_> Its ok.
[17:00] <jrwren_> I don't think I understand you.
[17:01] <wolfger> and yes, I agree that the number of arrests for marijuana is very sad
[17:02] <wolfger> cmaloney challenged my assertion that "...people who believe they are innocent of wrongdoing usually do not fight authorities to the death.", and I was saying that the number of arrests in which the arrestees do not even attempt to kill the police is kind of a point in my favor. How many of those people believe they are innocent is another, unknowable, matter.
[17:03] <jrwren_> I see.
[17:03] <jrwren> Number of arrests in those cases specifically supports your statement.
[17:05] <wolfger> mostly I'm just trying to keep a conversation going because sitting on my thumbs for 8 hours is painful. I could/should have stayed home.
[17:05] <jrwren> :(
[17:05] <jrwren> read reddit?
[17:06] <wolfger> I'm leary of reddit's sfw-ness
[17:06] <jrwren> oh?
[17:06] <jrwren> make your own reddit account, unsubscribe from all the defaults and subscribe to good subreddits.
[17:06] <wolfger> maybe that's just me ;-)
[17:06] <jrwren> it can be very SFW if you use it wisely
[17:07] <wolfger> I like to hang out in Funny and WTF, which are iffy and hell-no respectively
[17:07] <wolfger> or various gaming reddits, but I've already read those for today and new material doesn't come very quickly
[17:11] <wolfger> Brewing and TheBrewery get new content even less frequently
[17:17] <wolfger> ...and the person I've been waiting for all day just postponed until "tomorrow afternoon, or Wednesday". I'm outta here.
[17:19] <cmaloney> Heh
[23:29] <cmaloney> Evening.