[00:01] <netlar> eeee: I just cannot find a comprehensive guide for the Dash
[00:01] <snotch> netlar: it's a dock.
[00:01] <netlar> snotch: you talking about the launcher panel?
[00:02] <eeee> netlar: the sources are pretty self-explanatory
[00:02] <eeee> netlar: to be honest it's the first time i've used it
[00:02] <eeee> you write the search, and then click which source and it shows the results
[00:02] <snotch> netlar: u want cartoon instructions?
[00:03] <netlar> snotch: Stop it, do not be like that
[00:04] <netlar> Anyway, someone in a bad mood
[00:04] <eeee> netlar: if you want it to always search specific sources, you can select them first
[00:04] <eeee> just noticed that
[00:05] <eeee> (search field has to be empty)
[00:05] <netlar> eeee: Well I will just keep experimenting with it
[00:06] <snotch> I some times
[00:06] <wafflejock> hehe netlar think we just can't point you somewhere like you said no single clear doc that just focuses on the Dash, it's a nice to have for those who like it but don't think anyone has taken the time to do a full on document it's usage... if you're a heavy user perhaps it's something you could post online at least as a starting point to get other to contribute thoughts/info on it
[00:07] <wafflejock> http://www.howtogeek.com/113330/how-to-master-ubuntus-unity-desktop-8-things-you-need-to-know/ <-- here's an article that covers some basics but sure you probably already know all this
[00:07] <netlar> wafflejock: Thanks, I may look into do that
[00:09] <TJ-> netlar: This developer documentation may help you: http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/
[00:10] <netlar> TJ-: Thanks
[00:10] <Glycan> How can I activate a display with xranr?
[00:10] <Glycan> xrandr*
[00:10] <HikaruBG> hi guys!
[00:11] <Glycan> Can someone help me?
[00:11] <snotch> Sure Glycan
[00:11] <HikaruBG> when I log-in to Ubuntu, the log-in screen dissapears and only the background image remains on, but no task-bar, no icons, no menus nothing. Only the background image and the mouse pointer.
[00:11] <cynicallemon> Glycan: theres a gui tool for that to make it "easier" - arandr
[00:12] <Glycan> cynicallemon: it doesn't work
[00:13] <tortib> Hello everyone!  How can I disable SSH forwarding in sshd_config ?
[00:13] <Glycan> It does not actually activate the display
[00:13] <HikaruBG> I have Desktop machine with i7 CPU, 16 GB Ram and NVIDIA EVGA GTX 590 Classified vireo card. with the NVIDIA DRIVERS version 331.67
[00:13] <HikaruBG> I had no problems like this before
[00:13] <HikaruBG> anyone?
[00:14] <TJ-> Glycan: "xrandr --output $OUTPUT --auto"
[00:16] <HikaruBG> anyone on the ubuntu login problem?
[00:16] <HikaruBG> the ubuntu version is 14.04
[00:16] <wafflejock> HikaruBG: TJ is trying to help respond to TJ-
[00:17] <wafflejock> HikaruBG: oh sorry was talking to Glycan my bad got this troll messing up my brain
[00:17] <teololtoy> what's the default gtk program for making kde apps look like gnome apps?
[00:17] <teololtoy> ie running kde stuff in gnome and having them look more gnome
[00:17] <HikaruBG> :) its ok wafflejock, i just need some help here
[00:17] <HikaruBG> :)
[00:17] <wafflejock> !nomodeset > HikaruBG
[00:17] <wafflejock> that might help
[00:17] <wafflejock> at least to debug some
[00:18] <eeee> HikaruBG: maybe try to reinstall lightdm ?
[00:19] <HikaruBG> eeee, how do I do that? sudo apt-get purge lightdm && sudo apt-get install lightdm ?
[00:20] <eeee> HikaruBG: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[00:20] <HikaruBG> thanks, eeee
[00:20] <Glycan> wafflejock: doesn't work
[00:20] <eeee> np
[00:20] <jcoglan> HikaruBG: fyi I installed gdm and have so far not had a problem logging in. Previously my login screen on 14.04 would block keyboard and mouse input. However, locking the screen and suspending the machine still use the original login screen, which I am told is Ubuntu’s clone lookalike of the lightdm login, and that consistently fails and I have to hard-reboot.
[00:21] <eeee> HikaruBG: you might have to do it from the terminal, sudo service lightdm stop
[00:21] <eeee> install --reinstall , then sudo service lightdm start
[00:21] <jcoglan> Acutually, I mispoke, screen lock used something that looks like lightdm but it works, whereas resuming from suspend I’ve never been able to log in.
[00:22] <HikaruBG> I am on it eeee. thanks. I will let you know what is going on in a sec
[00:22] <Glycan> TJ-: doesn't work
[00:22] <scratchy> HikaruBG: it's a bug. Use a PPA to upgrade
[00:22] <OerHeks> rm -rf .compiz-1 Source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[00:23] <TJ-> Glycan: "doesn't work" is not helpful; show us the output of commands and pastebin the output of "xrandr -q" in particular
[00:23] <HikaruBG> eeee, same thing after stop/reinstall/start of lightdm
[00:23] <scratchy> HikaruBG: it's a bug. Use a PPA to upgrade
[00:23] <HikaruBG> scratchy, which ppa to use for upgrade?
[00:23] <HikaruBG> I have all updated and upgraded
[00:23] <HikaruBG> no new upgrades pending
[00:24] <scratchy> Search for unity PPA
[00:24] <Glycan> TJ-: the command you gave me has no output
[00:24] <Glycan> and does nothing
[00:25] <HikaruBG> scratchy, how to see which version of unity i currently have?
[00:25] <OerHeks> scratchy, proposing a ppa, tell him it is not supported here, and i posted a solution for some users >  rm -rf .compiz-1 : http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[00:25] <OerHeks> HikaruBG, ^ ^
[00:27] <jcoglan> scratchy: Does this mean that Ubuntu 14.04 is not going to fix this issue, or is PPA a temporary solution?
[00:27] <scratchy> HikaruBG: I have ati graphics card
[00:27] <scratchy> HikaruBG: do u have ati graphics card
[00:28] <Glycan> TJ-: the output of xrandr -q (the same as just xrandr) is http://paste.ubuntu.com/8135835/
[00:28] <OerHeks> scratchy, he started with the specs of his machine, nvidia
[00:28] <scratchy> HikaruBG: Try:
[00:28] <scratchy> ...$ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:28] <scratchy> ...$ ccsm
[00:28] <tortib> Does anyone know why I'm receiving this error when running `apt-get install zsh` ? update-alternatives: warning: skip creation of /usr/share/man/man1/rzsh.1.gz because associated file /usr/share/man/man1/zsh.1.gz (of link group rzsh) doesn't exist
[00:29] <tortib> it's not installing the man page for zsh
[00:29] <scratchy> HikaruBG: in the manager window go to Preferences (left pane) in the profile section select "unity" instead of "Default" in the drop-down menu.
[00:29] <HikaruBG> OK I am trying it now
[00:30] <HikaruBG> somehow I can't see the manager screen
[00:30] <HikaruBG> do I have to be logged in?
[00:30] <OerHeks> tortib, known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsh/+bug/1242108
[00:31] <HikaruBG> GTKWarning: could not open display
[00:31] <tortib> OerHeks: thx
[00:31] <TJ-> Glycan: The other displays are disconnected, so they can't be enabled
[00:31] <scratchy> HikaruBG: Did you install compiz
[00:31] <fridaynext> here's my /etc/exports, but when I try to connect to my shares from OSX 10.9, it's slow to connect. Any idea why? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9hPvZDgX
[00:32] <HikaruBG> yes
[00:32] <HikaruBG> scratchy, i have installes it.
[00:35] <HikaruBG> when I type $ export DISPLAY:=0 it returns -bash: export: 'DISPLAY:=0' not a valid identifier
[00:35] <Ben64> DISPLAY=:0
[00:36] <scratchy> HikaruBG: it's easier to upgrade nvidia using PPA
[00:37] <HikaruBG> http://pastie.org/9499884
[00:37] <HikaruBG> scratchy, check this out http://pastie.org/9499884
[00:37] <OerHeks> HikaruBG, please see this post, it is so easy https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsh/+bug/1242108
[00:37] <scratchy> HikaruBG: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[00:37] <scratchy> sudo apt-get update
[00:37] <OerHeks> err http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[00:38] <OerHeks> scratchy, no need for that, as it have worked.
[00:38] <eeee> OerHeks: his issue is with lightdm
[00:39] <eeee> ( before he logs in theres no window for logging in )
[00:39] <OerHeks> no, after logging in
[00:40] <scratchy> OerHeks: he cannot run the gui for compiz. He needs to install unity 2d. Its to much
[00:40] <eeee> oh, i thought he said something else
[00:41] <eeee> HikaruBG: try OerHeks suggestion
[00:41] <HikaruBG> thanks guys, I will try OerHeks suggestion then
[00:41] <scratchy> Update to nvidia PPA then upgrade
[00:42] <Ben64> ppa is not necessary at all
[00:44] <HikaruBG> ok Guys, here is the result of the ccsm command: http://pastie.org/9499893
[00:44] <HikaruBG> and still no manager screen
[00:44] <eeee> HikaruBG: try dconf reset -f /org/compiz/; setsid unity
[00:44] <eeee> that'll reset unity
[00:44] <HikaruBG> OK
[00:45] <eeee> HikaruBG: just to be sure, cause you're saying no manager screen, you're talking about after you login right?
[00:45] <eeee> meaning you get a manager screen, then you login, but theres no launcher or anything right?
[00:46] <TJ-> eeee: "Greeter" is what presents the log-in
[00:46] <HikaruBG> no, no manager screen appears. just the login screen. The ccsm command comes back with the message I pasted http://pastie.org/9499893
[00:46] <HikaruBG> I am trying to reset unity now as you told me
[00:46] <HikaruBG> I will create another pastie with this errors.
[00:47] <HikaruBG> it says Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"
[00:47] <eeee> TJ-: unity-greeter ?
[00:47] <scratchy> Everybody shut up for a moment.
[00:47] <HikaruBG> OK
[00:47] <TJ-> eeee: lightdm-greeter mostly
[00:48] <scratchy> HikaruBG: Did this happen after you installed nvidia proprietary driver
[00:48] <TJ-> eeee: on KDE its lightdm-kde-greeter
[00:48] <HikaruBG> yes scratchy, AFTER that
[00:48] <HikaruBG> scratchy, but I have installed the NVIDIA drivers long ago
[00:48] <HikaruBG> and it was running fine
[00:49] <TJ-> HikaruBG: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:49] <scratchy> HikaruBG: Did you just upgrade ubuntu then to a newer version.
[00:50] <HikaruBG> yes
[00:50] <scratchy> HikaruBG: is that when the problem started
[00:51] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8135980/
[00:51] <OerHeks> i have seen this before just after a regular update with kernel
[00:51] <TJ-> HikaruBG: "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X"
[00:51] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, this is exactly how it have to be happened...
[00:51] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I have no idea what is this means....
[00:52] <TJ-> HikaruBG: You've got a bad xorg.conf is my guess: "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:52] <OerHeks> loggin in: ctrl alt F1, then perform rm -rf .compiz-1 #logout & login again
[00:53] <HikaruBG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8135983/
[00:53] <TJ-> OerHeks: It's more fundamental than that; GLX is being shot down by bad config
[00:53] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, I will do it now
[00:53] <TJ-> HikaruBG: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[00:54] <TJ-> HikaruBG: And then "sudo service lightdm restart"
[00:54] <HikaruBG> OK
[00:54] <scratchy> HikaruBG: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[00:55] <scratchy> sudo apt-get update
[00:55] <fridaynext> I have "rw" in my nfs share, but I can't write to the share - how do I enable the ability to write to it?
[00:55] <HikaruBG> TJ-, it dodn't work backing up the xorg.conf and restarting the lightdm service
[00:56] <TJ-> HikaruBG: That's fine, we're trying to reduce the possibilities. Show me "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" now we have a new one
[00:56] <HikaruBG> OK
[00:56] <HikaruBG> just a sec
[00:56] <scratchy> HikaruBG: can you get into a terminal or command line
[00:56] <HikaruBG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136028/
[00:57] <scratchy> It's a nvidia problem.
[00:57] <HikaruBG> scratchy, yes
[00:57] <inder_gt> can any1 please tell me what the better way to do indicator applets is, pygtk or pygi
[00:57] <scratchy> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[00:57] <scratchy> sudo apt-get update
[00:57] <scratchy> sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:57] <scratchy> Then reboot
[00:57] <HikaruBG> scratchy, CTRL+ALT+F1 and also SSH from my laptop work
[00:57] <TJ-> scratchy: Installing a PPA is *not* the way to fix an existing issue. First, sort out the existing driver fault
[00:58] <scratchy> Put them commands in then reboot. Problem solved HikaruBG
[00:58] <HikaruBG> OK scratchy I am doing it. and will let you know in a bit
[00:58] <scratchy> TJ-: Yes it is. He wants a working system
[01:00] <odsent> hey there, im having a keyboard problem
[01:02] <HikaruBG> scratchy, it didn't solve it
[01:02] <OerHeks> y
[01:02] <odsent> i just got a new keyboard, meaning i have  to go  through  the old tradition  of rearranging  the keys  for dvorak
[01:02] <HikaruBG> same thing
[01:02] <TJ-> HikaruBG: The problem is you've got a manually installed nvidia driver version 331.67, rather than one of the Ubuntu-packaged drivers, and the manually installed driver hasn't correctly installed the core GLX X server driver
[01:02] <odsent> but the damn F key doesn't  fit
[01:03] <HikaruBG> TJ-, if I reinstall the NVIDIA driver will it fix it?
[01:03] <HikaruBG> it wirked when I first installed it?
[01:03] <HikaruBG> worked*
[01:03] <odsent> help plz
[01:03] <scratchy> HikaruBG: u need to install gnome 3 then. Unity is trashed on your system so you can finally get the compiz gui working
[01:04] <HikaruBG> scratchy, how to see which version of gnome i currently have?
[01:04] <TJ-> HikaruBG: The best way to tackle this is to first de-install the manual nvidia package, and then remove any stray ubuntu packages that may conflict so the system only has the open-source nouveau driver in place, *then* install the official ubuntu package "nvidia-331-updates"
[01:04] <scratchy> HikaruBG: ubuntu does not install gnome it uses a pig called unity.
[01:05] <TJ-> scratchy: There is nothing wrong with Unity, please don't give out misinformation. The problem is clear in the Xorg log-file: GLX driver not loaded
[01:05] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Let's first discover what Ubuntu/nvidia packages there may be installed: "dpkg -l 'nvidia*' | pastebinit"
[01:06] <HikaruBG> OK just a sec TJ-
[01:06] <eeee> HikaruBG: can you please ls -l /etc/X11 | pastebinit
[01:06] <HikaruBG> I went ahead and started reinstalling the NVIDIA 331 driver...  maybe stupid of me, but let me finish that and I will do everything you guys say
[01:07] <scratchy> TJ-: get him running so he can run the gui for compiz. Tell him how to install gnome fall back 2d and how to log in with it at log in screen
[01:08] <HikaruBG> scratchy, so you suggest I don't use unity anymore, but GNOME?
[01:08] <odsent> hhelp
[01:08] <HikaruBG> isn't that possible using tasksel ?
[01:08] <odsent> what is a good channel for general techh support?
[01:08] <HikaruBG> reinstall completed - now let's see results
[01:08] <OerHeks> TJ-, i wonder about his kernel  3.13.0-35-generic, as my current kernel is 3.13.0-34
[01:08] <somsip> !alis | odsent
[01:09] <wafflejock> odsent: what kind of help are you looking for it sounds like you have a hardware issue with rearranging your keys?
[01:09] <odsent> yea
[01:09] <odsent> its taking me a long time to type so bear with me
[01:09] <OerHeks> try ##hardware
[01:10] <HikaruBG> OK guys - after NVIDIA Drivers reinstall the result is: When I login - it displays the background image AND the desktop icons, but still no taskbar
[01:10] <HikaruBG> TJ-,  I am with you again
[01:10] <odsent> you know how on your QWERTY keyboard, the J and F keys have the tiny ridge on them?
[01:11] <scratchy> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-gnome-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[01:11] <HikaruBG> uninstall the NVIDIA driver say you?
[01:11] <odsent> on my logitech keyboard, those keys don't fit into other spots
[01:11] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136123/
[01:12] <odsent> this world is not dvorak friendly
[01:12] <OerHeks> odent that is beyond the scope of this channel, try ##hardware
[01:12] <HikaruBG> check the result of the dpkg -l 'nvidia*'
[01:12] <wafflejock> odsent: hehe yeah I don't think so... but seems worth it to just buy a dvorak keyboard anyhow if that's your preference, why spend the time fiddling with keys? either way as OerHeks said you'll have more luck if you need help on the hardware in a channel focused on it
[01:13] <scratchy> HikaruBG: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-gnome-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[01:13] <HikaruBG> Thanks scratchy, I will look into that, just let's see what TJ- will say about the nvidia packages
[01:14] <TJ-> OerHeks: Yes, It's from trusty-proposed
[01:15] <TJ-> HikaruBG: sorry about that - had to visit the bathroom :)
[01:15] <HikaruBG> TJ-, "The best way to tackle this is to first de-install the manual nvidia package, and then remove any stray ubuntu packages that may conflict so the system only has the open-source nouveau driver in place, *then* install the official ubuntu package "nvidia-331-updates"" How do you propose we do that?
[01:15] <HikaruBG> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-common ?
[01:15] <HikaruBG> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[01:16] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Well, the good news is there aren't currently any Ubuntu/nvidia packages so as long as we can cleanly remove the nvidia package you installed manually, it should be plain sailing to install the Ubuntu package afterwards
[01:16] <HikaruBG> TJ, so purge nvidia * should do it?
[01:17] <kerrick> Is upgrading from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS supported?
[01:17] <kerrick> not mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:17] <veryhappy> kerrick: would say it
[01:17] <TJ-> HikaruBG: No, as I said, there are no official nvidia packages to remove. Just the package you installed manually
[01:17] <eeee> kerrick: yes, sudo do-release-upgrade will get you there
[01:17] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Is the nvidia-331.67 installer ".run" file in your "~/Downloads/" directory?
[01:17] <hesco> Does ubuntu have a scheme for providing consistent uid and gids to application users?  Or do they get assigned in the order in which they were created?
[01:18] <HikaruBG> TJ-,  i just ran the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.67.run file from the terminal and it installed it
[01:18] <HikaruBG> is there a script to uninstall it?
[01:18] <scratchy> TJ-: big chance header files are not installed.
[01:18] <veryhappy> hey guys, today i made an installation of ubuntu 14.04 on an external drive, unfortunately due to the installation type that i find more clean (minimal system) i just have command tools to get me into the wireless network (wpa), this is not my home place, i'm in vacations now.
[01:18] <kerrick> eeee, thanks
[01:19] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, go to the directory that contains that file, then you need to do "sudo ./ NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.67.run --uninstall"
[01:19] <hesco> Lost my connection, so trying this again:  Does ubuntu have a scheme for providing consistent uid and gids to application users?  Or do they get assigned in the order in which they were created?
[01:19] <TJ-> scratchy: kernel headers are always installed, to support DKMS; do you mean some other headers?
[01:20] <scratchy> TJ-: use wild cards. Multiple drivers he installed.
[01:20] <malachi_constant> Hi all. I have an HP Proliant DL320 Gen8 v2 with ubuntu installed, and the damned thing will not take an IP address.
[01:20] <malachi_constant> I mean, I can assign one statically, but the link says NO-CARRIER even though the link light is lit on both sides.
[01:20] <HikaruBG> TJ-, uninstall is done
[01:21] <HikaruBG> now reboot or install the new packages?
[01:21] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, now lets do a search for any stray or unexpected nvidia versions, too
[01:21] <scratchy> TJ-: not true. Headers we're a bug concerning nvidia
[01:21] <HikaruBG> TJ-, ok let's do it! :) how? :)
[01:21] <TJ-> HikaruBG: "sudo find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -type f -name 'nvidia*'  "
[01:21] <HikaruBG> OK thanks
[01:22] <HikaruBG> /lib/modules/3.13.0-35-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[01:22] <TJ-> HikaruBG: hopefully you only get the 1 line?
[01:22] <kerrick> eeee, is the process any different for Ubuntu Gnome?
[01:22] <HikaruBG> yes - this is it
[01:24] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Next check - the X org drivers: "ls -d /usr/lib/nvidia*"
[01:24] <HikaruBG> TJ-, one line again: "/usr/lib/nvidia"
[01:25] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Good :)
[01:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Now, last check before we install the Ubuntu/nvidia driver packages:  "grep '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} | pastebinit"
[01:26] <Basketball> is it safe to tell someone on google plus my uname -a
[01:27] <HikaruBG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136215/
[01:27] <HikaruBG> sorry I have added these ppa-s that was proposed to me earlier
[01:27] <HikaruBG> do you want me remove them?
[01:27] <eeee> Basketball: only if it the second date ;)
[01:28] <eeee> *it's
[01:28] <Basketball> eeee,  no random person asked for us to share it
[01:28] <Basketball> on g+
[01:29] <HikaruBG> TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136215/
[01:29] <odsent> f.lux turns you screen orange to help increase melatonin at night
[01:29] <odsent> i'm also wearing orange glasses
[01:29] <odsent> the word "orange" looks weird now
[01:30] <odsent> because i'm looking at it so much
[01:31] <TJ-> HikaruBG: The xorg-edgers PPA is fine, don't worry. We're going to install the latest driver from there: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-343"
[01:32] <TJ-> HikaruBG: this will cause a new kernel driver to be compiled by the DKMS system; after that we'll see if we can get it loaded without the system needing to be rebooted
[01:32] <HikaruBG> TJ-, OK I am doing it
[01:33] <TJ-> HikaruBG: whilst that is running, if you can get to a 2nd terminal, can you do "lsmod | grep 'nvidia '" and tell us the last number on the output line, if there is any output
[01:34] <TJ-> HikaruBG: that's "lsmod | grep 'nvidia '   "  ... note the space after the word "nvidia"
[01:35] <HikaruBG> TJ-, no output lines on that
[01:35] <HikaruBG> I have noticed the cpase as well TJ-
[01:35] <HikaruBG> TJ-, the install have completed
[01:35] <TJ-> HikaruBG: no output means no existing nvidia driver stuck in memory, means we can easily load the new module
[01:35] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I am listening
[01:36] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK ... "sudo modprobe nvidia-343"
[01:36] <HikaruBG> the sudo service lightdm start ?
[01:36] <HikaruBG> OK
[01:36] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Then "lsmod | grep nvidia" and you should see it listed
[01:36] <HikaruBG> my bad - immediately TJ-
[01:36] <HikaruBG> TJ-, lsmod | grep 'nvidia ' -> nvidia              11108654  0
[01:36] <netlar> another dumb question, is there an application that helps you change application a single application icon?
[01:37] <TJ-> HikaruBG: looking good ... go ahead and start lightdm
[01:37] <HikaruBG> OK
[01:37] <TJ-> HikaruBG: if it fails, then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:38] <eeee> Basketball: it displays info about your kernel, architecture, and hostname, and some other stuff
[01:39] <netlar> The icons for application shortcuts are always so blurry
[01:39] <HikaruBG> TJ-, after I ran the lightdm, login screen appeared - I logged in, now I have the desktop icons and the background screen, also the myWeather ICdicator loaded and dosplayed it's message but no taskbar and no sidebar with launchpad icons
[01:39] <HikaruBG> basically - I have only the icons now, TJ-
[01:40] <HikaruBG> TJ-, and eclipse starts .... when I start it from the desktop icon
[01:40] <eeee> netlar: no idea about the application, but you can change icons in /usr/share/applications/ the .desktop files contain the icon info
[01:40] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, the main thing is the 3D accelerated driver is working which was the primary issue.
[01:41] <HikaruBG> TJ-, OK, now how to understand what is not working?
[01:41] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Now lets ask OerHeks to come back in, he is knowledgeable on how to kick Unity/Compiz when they need reseting
[01:41] <netlar> eeee: Ok, I saw that, was hoping for a simpler way , thanks
[01:41] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, still here? :)
[01:42] <TJ-> HikaruBG: This was the link OerHeks provided earlier:
[01:42] <TJ->     nvidia-173:i386
[01:42] <apb1963> I've NFS exported my root filesystem (from host/server blue to client orange), which of course includes /mnt/  which itself mounts a secondary drive; i.e. it's a different filesystem than /  So orange sees the mount as /mnt/blue/. Although I'm able to see the directory tree under /mnt/blue/mnt/ which has additional subdirs (i.e. /mnt/blue/mnt/a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h/) the files that should be under ../h/ are not there.  server is ubuntu 12.04, client is ubuntu 14.04
[01:42] <TJ-> HikaruBG: This was the link OerHeks provided earlier: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[01:43] <apb1963> Hey TJ- :)  Figured out my wireless problem.
[01:43] <HikaruBG> yep - TJ- do you want me to try this again?
[01:43] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Yes
[01:44] <TJ-> apb1963: Well done - what was it?
[01:44] <apb1963> TJ-: firmware upgrade
[01:44] <HikaruBG> OK TJ- I have the manager screen running
[01:44] <HikaruBG> now what?
[01:45] <apb1963> TJ-: it's even _almost_ stable.  I get dropouts from time to time, but at least I'm on wireless.
[01:45] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Can you see the CCSM on tty7?
[01:46] <TJ-> HikaruBG: According to the guide, its' then step 5: "Find the Unity plugin. Enable it."
[01:46] <Basketball> eeee,  no personal info right
[01:46] <eeee> Basketball: no, other than your computer's hostname
[01:46] <TJ-> apb1963: firmware? oh wow, that isn't something you expect these days!
[01:46] <HikaruBG> yes, TJ- , i have done the steps of the screen and now rebooting
[01:47] <eeee> (basketball@hostname:~$)
[01:47] <eeee> whatever hostname is
[01:47] <Basketball> actually Linux harris-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP296UA-ABA 3.13.0-34-generic #60~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:57:32 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:47] <eeee> what a lovely hostname
[01:47] <eeee> lol
[01:47] <apb1963> TJ-: Well, it wouldn't be the first time.... so I'm not overly surprised.
[01:47] <eeee> i hope you have unlimited scrollback...
[01:47] <eeee> :)
[01:48] <Basketball> eeee,  i want to change my icon for spotify manually i was able to change the locaton of the icon for the dash and side launcher but i cant figure out how to change it in the panel
[01:48] <malachi_constant> Hi guys. I'm running 14.04 and I seem to not be able to get an ip address.
[01:48] <TJ-> apb1963: For the symptoms I am - being able to ping over wlan0 whilst eth0 was up, but lose it as soon as eth0 went down - that's crazy!
[01:48] <TJ-> malachi_constant: Wired or Wireless network?
[01:48] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Wired.
[01:49] <TJ-> malachi_constant: Using Network Manager, or a manual entry in "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[01:49] <apb1963> TJ-: yeah, they were bizarre symptoms.... which is kind of what doesn't surprise me that it was firmware
[01:49] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Manual entry, no network manager to my knowledge.
[01:49] <TJ-> malachi_constant: Can you "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces" ?
[01:49] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Yessir.
[01:50] <Loshki> TJ-: eth0 going up and down will mess with the routing table, so it's plausible...
[01:50] <TJ-> Loshki: R.T. was fine, that was the weird part
[01:50] <TJ-> Loshki: We spend several hours diagnosing it last week
[01:51] <malachi_constant> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/mZnGcYVQ
[01:52] <malachi_constant> The second part is stuff I commented out because it failed.
[01:52] <TJ-> malachi_constant: syntax error: "iface dhcp inet dhcp" should be "iface em1 inet dhcp"
[01:52] <malachi_constant> Ooooh.
[01:52] <malachi_constant> Let me see here.
[01:52] <Loshki> good catch, TJ-
[01:53] <apb1963> TJ-: well, it wasn't exactly fine.... I had to adjust it.  This was why bringing eth0 back up did not restore the connection... until I adjusted the default gateway.
[01:53] <malachi_constant> TJ-: should I do /etc/init.d/networking restart now?
[01:53] <TJ-> malachi_constant: "sudo ifup em1"
[01:53] <malachi_constant> Okay, dhclient is sending out DHCPDISCOVERs.
[01:54] <TJ-> apb1963: We had metrics on the routes didn't we? wlan0 should have kicked in when the eth0 default disappeared
[01:54] <HikaruBG> TJ-, bad news. Unity Plugin is Enabled and still only the background image AND the desktop icons.
[01:54] <HikaruBG> nothing changes
[01:54] <HikaruBG> nothing changed
[01:54] <eeee> HikaruBG: can you please ls -l /etc/X11
[01:54] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK... don't worry, we'll work through the log-files to figure it out.  "pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors" please
[01:54] <malachi_constant> TJ-: It seems not to be working. ethtool shows 'Link detected: no'
[01:55] <malachi_constant> This is extremely odd to me, because it's the second cable I've tried, and everything else seems to work.
[01:55] <TJ-> malachi_constant: Does the interface kernel driver need firmware?
[01:55] <apb1963> TJ-: Right.  But my only point is that the routing table didn't fix itself... it had to be manually adjusted.
[01:55] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Ooh, possibly, it's a broadcom netextreme.
[01:55] <TJ-> malachi_constant: check /var/log/dmesg for clues
[01:55] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136358/
[01:56] <HikaruBG> eeee, just a sec....
[01:56] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Thank you!
[01:56] <apb1963> oh I was just reading less than flattering things about broadcom on the openWRT wiki.
[01:56] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Hmm. The driver seems to be loaded. This server, incidentally, was working fine before I brought it out here to the installation site. tg3 driver is loaded.
[01:56] <HikaruBG> eeee, here is your request: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136365/
[01:57] <TJ-> malachi_constant: Really? Is the switch port alive?
[01:57] <malachi_constant> dmesg also says: "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): em1 link is not ready"
[01:57] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Yessir, shows a link light.
[01:57] <TJ-> malachi_constant: can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[01:58] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, nothing to show in that log-file... hang on whilst I figure out where the other one is
[01:58] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Thank you so much :))))
[01:58] <malachi_constant> TJ-: I can, will be a minute, sneakernetting it.
[01:59] <HikaruBG> ok TJ- I am waiting
[01:59] <TJ-> malachi_constant: hehehe
[02:00] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, can you try restarting lightdm so you're at the Greeter log-in, then try logging in as Guest?
[02:00] <TJ-> HikaruBG: We need to isolate whether this is a system-wide issue, or just your regular user account profile settings
[02:01] <HikaruBG> OK
[02:02] <Basketball> eeee,  i want to change my icon for spotify manually i was able to change the locaton of the icon for the dash and side launcher but i cant figure out how to change it in the panel
[02:02] <HikaruBG> TJ-,  the Guest User logged in as normal - all works
[02:03] <TJ-> HikaruBG: That's great - we now know it is something in the user profile
[02:03] <HikaruBG> I tried this a while ago but it didn't work... apparently when we installed the new driver we fixed something
[02:03] <HikaruBG> TJ-, OK - where do you suggest we look ?
[02:04] <TJ-> HikaruBG: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log"
[02:04] <HikaruBG> TJ-, just FYI I have backed up just now .Xauthority file and restartes the lightdm....  still nothing.
[02:05] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm flying blind now because I use KDE not Unity, but I'm looking at how unity can be made to generate logs
[02:05] <HikaruBG> sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[02:05] <HikaruBG> just a sec
[02:05] <HikaruBG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136414/
[02:06] <malachi_constant> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/dKGgycSr
[02:07]  * apb1963 takes a number while standing in line.
[02:07] <TJ-> malachi_constant: are you sure it's not em2 the cable is plugged into?
[02:08] <purevulcan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot minecraft being funny
[02:09] <cynicallemon> purevulcan: we can all be funny about that
[02:10] <TJ-> HikaruBG: show me "sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log" please
[02:10] <purevulcan> lol everytime I try to start it, it says something about liblwgjl.so and stack guard
[02:11] <malachi_constant> TJ-: I will make sure.
[02:11] <cynicallemon> purevulcan: try downloading and reinstall mc client
[02:11] <tortib> Hello, I wanted to know what's the best method to protect my system from fork bombs?
[02:12] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136475/
[02:12] <purevulcan> I did that already and I also already updated my libs
[02:12] <tortib> purevulcan: what's the problem?
[02:12] <malachi_constant> TJ-: well, I just switched the ports, so let's find out. :-)
[02:13] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Well, we've found all the errors!
[02:13] <purevulcan> tortib: It will start then crash and give something about liblwgjl.so and stack guard
[02:13] <tortib> huh
[02:14] <malachi_constant> TJ-: !!
[02:14] <tortib> purevulcan: is this minecraft client or server?
[02:14] <purevulcan> ftb client
[02:14] <malachi_constant> TJ-: When I plugged it in, it said in dmesg: "Link is up at 1000Mpbs, full duplex"
[02:14] <malachi_constant> I haven't seen that before!
[02:14] <TJ-> malachi_constant: Sorted :)
[02:14] <apb1963> malachi_constant: isn't TJ- awesome?
[02:14] <TJ-> malachi_constant: You just need a stanza for em2 in 'interfaces'
[02:14] <malachi_constant> TJ-: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[02:15] <tortib> purevulcan: are you running mods?
[02:15] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I can see them as well...  how do you want to proceed?
[02:15] <malachi_constant> apb1963: TJ- *IS* amazing!
[02:15] <malachi_constant> TJ-: THANK YOU!
[02:15] <purevulcan> tortib: yes, im trying to run the unleashed pack in the ftb client
[02:15] <apb1963> malachi_constant:  I'm starting a fan club... hmmm.... maybe even a channel :)
[02:16] <tortib> purevulcan: can't help you there, but you can try irc.esper.net there is tons of minecraft channels there for help such as #minecrafthelp
[02:16] <malachi_constant> TJ-: I added one! It works! :D
[02:16] <malachi_constant> TJ-: You're fantastic.
[02:16] <malachi_constant> I've spent so much time on this that this server room has become my office away from office.
[02:16] <apb1963> purevulcan: You might also want to get the exact error message as that would be very helpful.
[02:16] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm trying to figure out which are the critical ones and which are fluff we can ignore
[02:17] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I see...
[02:17] <apb1963> TJ-: don't knock fluff.  Some of my best girlfriends are fluffy.
[02:17] <wafflejock> hah nice
[02:18] <TJ-> apb1963: Same here.... but rabbits :)
[02:18] <apb1963> TJ-: I'm not big on beastiality... not that there's anything wrong with that.  *cough*
[02:19] <wafflejock> you mean furries? not fluffies
[02:19] <apb1963> TJ-: I used to train guard bunnies, since you mention it.
[02:19] <rww> back to support, folks
[02:20] <Beldar> so many offensive parts to so many ;)
[02:20] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm reading the Unity source-code now, to figure it out
[02:21] <Basketball>  i want to change my icon for spotify manually i was able to change the locaton of the icon for the dash and side launcher but i cant figure out how to change it in the panel
[02:23] <HikaruBG> TJ-, OK...
[02:24] <HikaruBG> TJ-, thank you for trying
[02:24] <HikaruBG> TJ-, i will wait for your solution
[02:24] <malachi_constant> TJ-: For the record, I would like you to tell you that I called the guy who did this network, a Harvard graduate, and he wasn't able to figure it out.
[02:24] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Can you log-in as your regular user if you aren't already, then Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a VT, then "ps -efly | grep unity | pastebinit" ?
[02:25] <kuldud> hi
[02:25] <TJ-> malachi_constant: I have a mantra: 1st thing to check: cables, 2nd thing to check: the bloody cables!
[02:25] <malachi_constant> TJ-: Hah!
[02:25] <kuldud> how do i boot ubuntu from usb drive
[02:25] <wafflejock> Basketball: how'd you change it in the other places? editing the .desktop file?
[02:26] <Beldar> kuldud, What is the problem?
[02:26] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136552/
[02:27] <Beldar> kuldud, Just load the iso to a usb with an app, there are a handful available.
[02:27] <kuldud> I have windows 7 i want to boot ubuntu from usb drive - im using a really old computer and it has no dvd rom
[02:27] <kuldud> what app
[02:27] <Beldar> kuldud, Be sure it can boot a usb is all.
[02:28] <carlosqueso> kuldud: unetbootin is what I use
[02:28] <Beldar> kuldud, unetbootin is one, pendrivelinux has others.
[02:28] <Basketball> wafflejock,  i went to user share applications then right clicked edit with gedit and changed the line icon = to icon= place where it is saved
[02:28] <kuldud> ok
[02:31] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, and now "dconf dump /org/gnome/ | pastebinit" ... you may need to do "sudo apt-get install dconf-cli"
[02:31] <Beldar> kuldud, The bios should have a change drives area put the usb as first read.
[02:31] <wafflejock> Basketball: yeah thought that would do it? I installed a few programs myself (as in from source) and created the .desktop file, in gnome taskbar at least it appears to use that icon
[02:32] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136595/
[02:32] <Basketball> wafflejock,  nope panel doesnt change
[02:32] <apb1963> NFS anyone?
[02:32] <HikaruBG> TJ-, i have 14 packages waiting to be upgraded
[02:33] <HikaruBG> TJ-, would you like me to run upgrade?
[02:33] <HikaruBG> This is after we installed the new NVIDIA Drivers
[02:33] <HikaruBG> might be some fixes and patches there....
[02:34] <apb1963> If I can get my NFS working, I can finally move off my 12.04 machine.
[02:34] <aeropause> can ubuntu do everything windows 8 can?
[02:34] <aeropause> i'm thinking of switching as long as i don't lose any functionality
[02:35] <carlosqueso> aeropause...ubuntu does a lot of things, but almost all are done differently
[02:35] <Beldar> aeropause, Windows and Linux have their strong points, you will have to investigate.
[02:35] <carlosqueso> aeropause, what functionality do you need?
[02:35] <aeropause> hmmm well i have to work in an office
[02:36] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Yes :)
[02:36] <aeropause> our documents are word and excel
[02:36] <kuldud> when i install ubuntu in oracle virtual box and i do full install does it wipe my whole hard drive or just the parition
[02:37] <Beldar> aeropause, This is direct Ubuntu support, dual boot and see what can be cross used.
[02:37] <aeropause> whole hard drive, kuldud
[02:37] <kuldud> aw
[02:37] <aeropause> yea you would think the virtual box would compartmentalize the OS but it will wipe your entire drive
[02:37] <aeropause> best to just use windows, because it works
[02:37] <HikaruBG> TJ-, "sudo apt-get upgrade" returned 14 not upgraded. I need to run dist-upgrade
[02:37] <aeropause> i think that's what i'll do
[02:38] <apb1963> kuldud: it doesn't wipe either one.  A virtual computer is simply a file created that helps to emulate the OS.
[02:38] <carlosqueso> aeropause, well there isn't MS office for ubuntu, but you can use libreoffice for simple documents and spreadsheets, and skydrive (or whatever they're calling it)
[02:38] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK ... I'll keep reading :)
[02:38] <eeee> virtualbox doesn't touch the partitions
[02:38] <eeee> aeropause: ^^
[02:38] <Beldar> kuldud, You can dual boot ubuntu on the HD.
[02:38] <aeropause> somebody told me that libreoffice isn't compatible with microsoft office
[02:38] <aeropause> i need compatibility
[02:38] <HikaruBG> OK TJ-, when I upgrade - just to restart lightdm or the entire machine ?
[02:38] <eeee> i mean kuldud: ^^
[02:38] <carlosqueso> aeropause...it's mostly compatible, but will chew up complex formatting
[02:38] <eeee> nevermind
[02:39] <eeee> im sleepy
[02:39] <Beldar> aeropause, So far your half troll half bad advice, what is the deal?
[02:39] <apb1963> aeropause: It depends on how complex your documents are.  It can do simple documents, but forget about macros.
[02:39] <aeropause> hmmm i need macros
[02:39] <aeropause> why can't libreoffice do macros?
[02:39] <eeee> but yeah virtualbox doesn't wipe any partitions, unless you explicitly make a file that represents the raw hard disk
[02:39] <apb1963> aeropause: It CAN do macros.... it just won't do MS macros.  It does macros differently.  You can write macros for libreoffice.
[02:39] <HikaruBG> TJ-, upgrade done, nothing changed - still same issue
[02:40] <aeropause> why does it do macros differently?  don't they want to be compatible?
[02:40] <apb1963> aeropause: they do them differently because the intent is to do them better.
[02:40] <carlosqueso> aeropause, it can do its own macros, but not MS Office's...FWIW, MS Office won't run LibreOffice (or WordPerfect) macros
[02:40] <aeropause> oh.  ok i guess i won't switch to linux then
[02:41] <aeropause> I see why nobody uses linux
[02:41] <TJ-> eeee: Are you using Unity?
[02:41] <eeee> yeah
[02:41] <carlosqueso> aeropause...probably good plan for you
[02:41] <aeropause> yea
[02:41] <aeropause> good plan
[02:41] <eeee> TJ-: what's up?
[02:41] <apb1963> aeropause: If you write your macros in libreOffice they'll work just fine.... and then you'll understand why nobody uses MS Office.
[02:41] <aeropause> hmmm too bad that won't happen
[02:41] <aeropause> because nobody uses libreoffice lol
[02:42] <aeropause> maybe they should have tried being compatible rofl
[02:42] <cynicallemon> apb1963: do people still use ms office?
[02:42] <TJ-> eeee: can you "sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log" so I can compare?
[02:42] <carlosqueso> aeropause...this is the wrong place to say that kind of thing....a chat room full of libreoffice users *sigh*
[02:42] <apb1963> cynicallemon: I'm not sure.... I forget what it is.
[02:43] <eeee> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136661/
[02:43] <cynicallemon> apb1963: best ms office creation was clippy, libre office would be good with that
[02:43] <TJ-> eeee: and also "ps -efly | grep unity | pastebinit" ? thanks :)
[02:43] <LostNva> aeropause,  libreoffice works well and replaces Mic Office, but bare in mind some colleges businesses etc. reject it.
[02:44] <apb1963> cynicallemon: and even if I could remember, I wouldn't want to pay thousands of dollars for it, train all my staff and then have to buy it all over again a year later and retrain all my staff again for thousands more... and lose all that productivity when I could have simply gotten LibreOffice for free and trained my staff once and then never again.
[02:44] <aeropause> some?  you mean all, LostNva
[02:44] <aeropause> i feel like linux is for neckbeards and not for serious adults
[02:44] <apb1963> cynicallemon: omg, I hated clippy with a passion.  lol
[02:44] <aeropause> who have work to do, and don't live in their mother's basements
[02:44] <expunge> cynicallemon: obligatory: http://www.vim.org/images/vimassistant.gif
[02:44] <LostNva> aeropause,  no its microsoft politics for money, but the software works well, in some cases better.
[02:44] <eeee> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136672/
[02:45] <expunge> aeropause: I feel like people who shave daily aren't very serious
[02:45] <apb1963> aeropause: You have something against mothers too?
[02:45] <aeropause> the software works well?  by not being compatible with anybody else?  being useless?
[02:45] <expunge> aeropause: nah
[02:45] <cynicallemon> apb1963: lol
[02:45] <apb1963> aeropause: what you mean to say is that MS is incompatible with everyone else by being proprietary.
[02:45] <carlosqueso> aeropause...you're right, MS Office, unlike LibreOffice, OpenOffice and a bunch of others isn't compatible with anyone else
[02:46] <cynicallemon> expunge: love that gif
[02:46] <aeropause> carlosqueso, you're right that I'm right.  None of that bullshit is compatible with the other 99% of the market
[02:47] <aeropause> therefore it's fucking useless
[02:47] <aeropause> (fag)
[02:47] <cynicallemon> i send stuff created in libreoffice everyday to ms office users - no issues
[02:48] <carlosqueso> yup, got through the second half of undergrad and all of grad school on OpenOffice (it was pre-Libreoffice)...now my work is a pretty much complete Google Docs shop
[02:48] <cynicallemon> in fact i could send the same stuff from office 4.3 too
[02:49] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm not sure how we do this if you have no way to launch a terminal from the GUI session; maybe Ctrl+Alt+F1 then "DISPLAY=:0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-scope-home/unity-scope-home&". If errors are reported to the terminal, let me know, otherwise Alt+F7 to check if you've got the dash
[02:49] <MrJoestar> When I come back from suspend my keyboard starts to have a delay when I press a key. What can I do?
[02:49] <HikaruBG> OK
[02:49] <cynicallemon> office 4.3 to office 2013 - difference?, a heck of a lot of money
[02:50] <kuldud> hi, sorry i have to ask again if i install ubuntu fully in virutal box would it delete anything outside the virtual box
[02:50] <cynicallemon> kuldud: no
[02:50] <carlosqueso> kuldud...nope, that's the beauty of VirtualBox
[02:50] <kuldud> ok thank you
[02:50] <carlosqueso> cynicallemon...office 4.3? Did that run on stone computers?
[02:51] <aeropause> i wish somebody here was articulate enough to convince me that linux wasn't a complete waste of time
[02:51] <cynicallemon> carlosqueso: yeah
[02:51] <TJ-> !ot | aeropause
[02:51] <carlosqueso> aeropause...if MS office is your primary need, then linux is a complete waste of your time....it's not a complete waste of ours
[02:51] <cynicallemon> aeropause: the doors that way >>>>>
[02:52] <apb1963> aeropause: if you do nothing but word processing and spreadsheets, then you don't need the power of linux.
[02:52] <LostNva> aeropause,  My computer works well and has for years, I have no virus protection, I get free software, I don't do scans for malware, everthing works...........
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <aeropause> !ot | TJ-
[02:52] <unopaste> aeropause you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:52] <Beldar> yay
[02:53] <apb1963> I remember when MS purchased hotmail.com ....  they tried to port it to MS and then finally gave up.  Last I heard it was still running on Linux servers.
[02:53] <LostNva> wow I was entertained a little by him.
[02:55] <TJ-> apb1963: hotmail was Sun + Solaris
[02:56] <apb1963> TJ-: was it?  The gossip vine said Linux
[02:56] <HikaruBG> TJ-, [1] 3046
[02:56] <HikaruBG> svetoslav@svetoslav-Desktop:~$
[02:56] <HikaruBG> (unity-scope-home:3046): unity-scope-home-WARNING **: platform-info.vala:112: Unable to read SIM properties: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files
[02:56] <carlosqueso> I've never understood why liking one OS means you have to hate all others; I use Windows, Mac and Linux and they all do some things nicely
[02:56] <HikaruBG> TJ-, and hangs there
[02:56] <expunge> carlosqueso: that's just osomania
[02:56] <apb1963> carlosqueso: It's true, I'm a closet XP user.
[02:56] <carlosqueso> expunge...when you have to support users on all of them, you have to
[02:57] <senn558> i use Windows ME exclusively
[02:57] <TJ-> HikaruBG: That's good - it means the process is running in the background - that's the [1] 3046 telling you the process ID
[02:57] <expunge> carlosqueso: ew
[02:57] <carlosqueso> senn558...I think there's therapy for that
[02:57] <apb1963> that's funny
[02:57] <HikaruBG> TJ-, it is good...  but still no taskbar... :)
[02:57] <TJ-> HikaruBG: So it isn't failing then... check with "jobs"   - it should list [1] as "running", not "stopped" or "exited"
[02:58] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I know, I'm trying to force one of the components to give us the clue as to what it is missing
[02:58] <HikaruBG> TJ-, yes, jobs displays one job running
[02:58] <HikaruBG> TJ-, OK
[02:59] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK, now let's poke the thing! "pgrep unity-panel-service && pkill unity-panel-service && sleep 2 && pgrep unity-panel-service"
[03:00] <HikaruBG> nothing happened...
[03:00] <HikaruBG> or maybe something on background, TJ- ?
[03:01] <TJ-> HikaruBG: did you see some numbers listed by the pgrep commands?
[03:01] <HikaruBG> TJ-, nope - it gave me nothing
[03:02] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Right, we must have git the 15-character comm (process) name limit. Let's lose the last 4 characters. Try this instead: "pgrep unity-panel-ser && pkill unity-panel-ser && sleep 2 && pgrep unity-panel-ser"
[03:02] <TJ-> s/git/hit/
[03:03] <HikaruBG> still nothing, TJ-
[03:03]  * TJ- raise an eyebrow
[03:03] <HikaruBG> TJ
[03:03] <HikaruBG> TJ-, wait -
[03:03] <HikaruBG> my mistake
[03:03] <HikaruBG> I thought you wantme to remove only last 4
[03:03] <HikaruBG> I got numbers
[03:04] <HikaruBG> 2411, 3105
[03:04] <HikaruBG> that's it TJ-
[03:04] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Good :) ... that means we killed the existing process and started a new one... is there any change on the GUI desktop?
[03:04] <HikaruBG> TJ-, nope - still the same
[03:04] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Grrr :p
[03:05] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I feel the same
[03:05] <HikaruBG> need this computer running
[03:05] <eeee> HikaruBG: this is a stab in the dark, but try rm -rf ~/.compiz/session/*
[03:06] <HikaruBG> eeee, and then restart lightdm?
[03:06] <eeee> yeah
[03:07] <TJ-> HikaruBG: eeee go for it :)  ... I'm reading the unity-panel-service.c code since it is responsible for the menus and taskbar
[03:07] <HikaruBG> nice try eeee...  nothing happened though. same old thing
[03:08] <eeee> oh well...
[03:08] <TJ-> eeee: keep going :)
[03:08] <apb1963> TJ-: where is it located?
[03:10] <TJ-> apb1963: where's what located?
[03:11] <apb1963> TJ-: source code
[03:11] <HikaruBG> TJ-, still the same issue ....  aggrivating
[03:12] <apb1963> TJ-:  I figured I'd take a look, just for the fun of it.
[03:14] <TJ-> apb1963: Oh :)   "apt-get source unity" then "UnityCore/GnomeSessionManager.cpp" and "services/panel-main.c" and "services/panel-service.c
[03:14] <TJ-> "
[03:17] <apb1963> TJ-: Odd.... there's no GnomeSessionManager.cpp
[03:18] <trism> HikaruBG: maybe some interesting errors in ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session-Unity.log or unity-panel-service.log? didn't see that in the scrollback
[03:18] <DoYouKnow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310762
[03:18] <apb1963> TJ-: unity5.20.0 ?
[03:18] <DoYouKnow> ^ that bug is affecting me and I'm not on a laptop
[03:18] <DoYouKnow> it's a precision 390 desktop
[03:18] <DoYouKnow> what should I do? it's been closed/expired
[03:20] <DoYouKnow> someone decided to vigilante murder this bug report
[03:20] <HikaruBG> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136870/
[03:20] <trism> DoYouKnow: you are better off filing a new bug
[03:20] <OerHeks> Nvidia Quadro issue ?
[03:21] <DoYouKnow> yes, OerHeks
[03:21] <HikaruBG> and TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8136877/
[03:21] <HikaruBG> the second one
[03:21] <OerHeks> like trism says: file a new one
[03:22] <eeee> HikaruBG: try sudo apt-get install unity-greeter
[03:22] <eeee> sorry
[03:22] <eeee> HikaruBG: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-greeter
[03:23] <HikaruBG> eeee, same old thing
[03:24] <eeee> nevermind, i thought it has to do with the indicators, just read the man
[03:24] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I did see several mentions that "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" solves it... at this stage, that is worth trying!
[03:24] <eeee> cause in dconf editor, under com > canonical > unity > unity-greeter , theres something about which indicators to load at startup
[03:24]  * TJ- hates log-files that don't timestamp entries!
[03:25] <eeee> i guess those are for the lightdm
[03:25] <eeee> and unity-greeter calls something else to load them?
[03:27] <HikaruBG> OK TJ- I am going for it!
[03:27] <HikaruBG> TJ-, it is done.... so fast
[03:27] <HikaruBG> ?!?
[03:29] <HikaruBG> rebooting
[03:38] <apb1963> He's dead Jim
[03:38] <expunge> not a doctor
[03:38] <apb1963> Fascinating
[03:38] <expunge> heh
[03:39] <apb1963> since it's all quiet now....
[03:39] <apb1963> I've NFS exported my root filesystem (from host/server blue to client orange), which of course includes /mnt/  which itself mounts a secondary drive; i.e. it's a different filesystem than /  So orange sees the mount as /mnt/blue/. Although I'm able to see the directory tree under /mnt/blue/mnt/ which has additional subdirs (i.e. /mnt/blue/mnt/a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h/) the files that should be under ../h/ are not there.  server is ubuntu 12.04, client is ubuntu 14.04
[03:41] <ax562> any ubuntu 12.04 lts firewall recommendations?
[03:41] <ax562> 64
[03:42] <angular> hello, any one know how to upgrade firefox 29 in ubuntu 14.04?
[03:42] <expunge> just update
[03:43] <angular> expunge: there is no update option in the firefox 29
[03:44] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # firefox should be v31 then
[03:44] <expunge> angular: ^
[03:44] <expunge> update your system
[03:45] <angular> ok i am running software updater. let's see
[03:45] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade # can do fun stuff too
[03:49] <Fall> clear
[03:49] <Fall> oops, this isn't bash ;)
[03:50] <expunge> Fall: it'd be neat if it was, though
[03:50] <gabriel_> i am having problems installing ubuntu to a vaio pc
[03:50] <expunge>  what problems
[03:50] <HikaruBG> TJ-, could you please tell me what was the command to list all installed nvidia packets?
[03:50] <Fall> expunge: :D
[03:51] <gabriel_> anybody can help me
[03:51] <Nordom> Can someone point my in direction of a good Grub guide for tweaking graphic settings?
[03:51] <TJ-> HikaruBG: "dpkg -l 'nvidia*'  "
[03:52] <HikaruBG> Thanks!
[03:53] <gabriel_> it takes me to set the location but it a square  pups up with lots of interrogation marks and sends me back to the installation type option
[03:54] <Bashing-om> Nordom: Try : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen .
[03:59] <joe7dust> hi guys would someone mind helping me install ubuntu 14.04 on my desktop?
[03:59] <expunge> joe7dust: what's the trouble?
[04:00] <joe7dust> I made the usb boot disk and it boots with purple screen then goes to purple background that says ubuntu 14.04 and white/red dots... then after about 30 seconds it goes to black background with white/yellow dots for about 10 seconds before I lose signal from the video card
[04:00] <joe7dust> waited a couple minutes tried hitting keys nothing helps just have to power cycle
[04:01] <joe7dust> I used Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.5.exe to format and create the boot disc of image ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[04:02] <joe7dust> said all successful... maybe its loading a default video drive that is incompatible with my system?
[04:02] <joe7dust> driver*
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> joe7dust: what are your system specs?
[04:02] <joe7dust> hp a500n
[04:02] <expunge> joe7dust: maybe; you could try the 'minimalcd' image instead
[04:02] <expunge> which eschews loads of unnecessary graphics
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> joe7dust: you can also try lubuntu, just to test what it does on your system
[04:03] <joe7dust> sounds great i planned on using unity2d anyway
[04:03] <joe7dust> is this really going to install ubuntu? its only 31 mb
[04:03] <joe7dust> Ubuntu 14.04 "Trusty Tahr" Minimal CD 31MB* (MD5: a2502844750ecb6477d8fb4ff6b9aaf8, SHA1: d17c34ce716f13396040ccdc02d32482ed6b01a1)
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !minimal
[04:04] <joe7dust> ok great
[04:04] <joe7dust> will try it out!
[04:04] <joe7dust> oh but wait
[04:04] <joe7dust> i doubt its going to get my usb wireless driver automatically
[04:04] <joe7dust> so....
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> joe7dust: thats why i would go for lubuntu
[04:04] <joe7dust> ethernet not an option
[04:06] <joe7dust> im glad to see it has torrent available cause the regular was capped at 135kb/s, same on full ubuntu 14
[04:06] <kuldud> hi
[04:06] <joe7dust> yay for full speed
[04:06] <joe7dust> <3 the cloud
[04:06] <kuldud> i set up a virtual box which is running ubuntu how do i remote desktop to it from windows 7
[04:07] <kuldud> ?
[04:07] <joe7dust> I've never heard of remote desktop in ubuntu... probably exists tho
[04:08] <kuldud> the resolution is so small i cant install teamviewer
[04:08] <HikaruBG> TJ-, still here?
[04:08] <joe7dust> can't change resolution?
[04:09] <expunge> kuldud: install/configure a vnc server on the guest
[04:09] <expunge> kuldud: install/configure a vnc viewer on the host
[04:09] <kuldud> ok
[04:09] <kuldud> how
[04:09] <expunge> kuldud: s/host/system you want to view from/
[04:09] <expunge> kuldud: tigervnc
[04:09] <joe7dust> gl man ill be back later if i have trouble
[04:09] <kuldud> im a ubuntu noob that just started today
[04:10] <HikaruBG> kuldud, welcome to Ubuntu :)
[04:10] <kuldud> thx
[04:11] <kuldud> um
[04:12] <kuldud> wait can i not simply remote desktop to ubuntu?
[04:12] <kuldud> or teamviewer
[04:13] <expunge> sure
[04:14] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Yes
[04:15] <HikaruBG> TJ-, NVIDIA 343 driver is BETA and not tested
[04:15] <HikaruBG> that is why I went with 331 on a first place because it was tested by Ubuntu
[04:17] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm running 343 here, it's not shown any problems, and I've got 3 GPUs and 6 monitors
[04:17] <wigirc> kuldud: use vino
[04:17] <wigirc> kuldud: and on windows use whatever vnc client
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> vnc is a security danger
[04:18] <kuldud> ok
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !vnc
[04:18] <kuldud> ok thx
[04:18] <expunge> lotuspsychje: it needn't be
[04:18] <HikaruBG> wow... :) TJ-, nise setup! I thought that my EVGA 590 Classified is an awkward card to start with and linux don't work well with it ....
[04:19] <cynicallemon> lotuspsychje: any remote management system is a security danger
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> cynicallemon: true
[04:19] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Generally, the newer Nvidia drivers fix bugs and perform better
[04:20] <kuldud> how do i download vino
[04:20] <kuldud> <--noob
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> kuldud: sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> kuldud: or check the software centre
[04:21] <kuldud> ok
[04:23] <Bashing-om> kuldud: Version: 3.8.1-0ubuntu1 _. sudo apt-get install vino <- for termianl way.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> terminal*
[04:24] <HikaruBG> got it TJ-
[04:24] <HikaruBG> just experimenting ....
[04:25] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I think to finish dealing with this problem for now....
[04:26] <HikaruBG> Thank you for your help!
[04:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Good luck with it; hope we find out what causes it
[04:28] <HikaruBG> TJ-, thanks again! :) I will keep you posted if I find out where the problem lays!
[04:31] <kuldud> ok i installed vino server and vnc client how do i connect now
[04:34] <kuldud> ?
[04:35] <alphabravo> Hey guys.
[04:35] <alphabravo> Hey kermit
[04:38] <kuldud> how do i connect to my vnc server?
[04:39] <bipul> find! NIVIDIA GEFORCE
[04:40] <bipul> I would like to know which NIVIDIA products are having an issue, with ubuntu. Can any one know?
[04:43] <nrdb> trying to get deluged daemon to start on a headless server .. but it isn't ... there is no output to any of the log files... can anyone help?
[04:45] <vonzipperton> sup
[04:45] <wafflejock> kuldud: typically just input the IP in the client app
[04:46] <wafflejock> kuldud: the ports need to be opened/forwarded on the server side though, to do it more securely you can use an SSH tunnel
[04:46] <wafflejock> kuldud: what's the relationship on the network between the client/server, same LAN, across the net?
[04:51] <tortib> someone help, I just installed dovecot-imapd and dovecot-pop3d and it didn't create a /etc/init.d/dovecot script
[04:51] <tortib> it says the service is running but I can't connect to it
[04:52] <tortib> ports are opened on the firewall
[04:53] <nrdb> tortib, does "netstat --tcp --listening" indicate that the correct ports are open
[04:53] <tortib> no
[04:53] <tortib> it does not
[04:54] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8137420/
[04:55] <tortib> nrdb: what do I do?
[04:55] <tortib> I need email services
[04:57] <nrdb> tortib, at least we know it is not a firewall problem etc atm ... have you looked in syslog?
[04:57] <tortib> nrdb: why is the init.d script missing?
[04:58] <cjr> hi. i would like to upgrade from Quantal to Trusty, but there are so many 404 errors in my sources.list that the software updater program won't start properly (it thinks i have an internet error)
[04:58] <nrdb> tortib, no  idea ... it seems to be running ... is xinetd starting it?
[04:58] <tortib> nrdb: no
[04:59] <tortib> xinetd isn't installed, inetd is though
[04:59] <cjr> i can see that all of the "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal" links are broken now that 12.10 is not supported, but i'm not sure what to change them to (i tried archive.canonical.com, but that didn't seem to work)
[04:59] <nrdb> tortib, ok ... any hints in the logs?
[05:00] <tortib> nrdb: not really :(
[05:01] <nrdb> tortib, is the a file in /etc/defaults for it
[05:01] <tortib> is a SSL cert valid if the IP address changes?  Or is it based on the hostname?
[05:02] <tortib> nrdb: no :(
[05:03] <karstensrage> tortib, based on hostname
[05:03] <karstensrage> ip address would be ridiculous
[05:03] <nrdb> tortib, I would expect it to still be listening on the ports even if the ssl certs weren't correct
[05:03] <tortib> okay that's what I thought
[05:03] <tortib> nrdb: true.
[05:03] <tortib> but my postfix install is saying it can't find a sasl authentication mechanism
[05:03] <tortib> which is weird because the dirs are correct
[05:04] <nrdb> tortib, I can't think of anything else atm.
[05:04] <tortib> this sucks!
[05:04] <tortib> why is it doing this!
[05:04] <rww> !eol | cjr
[05:05] <rww> tortib: 1) SSL is unrelated to SASL, 2) do you have an SASL daemon running (like the one that comes with dovecot...)?
[05:05] <tortib> rww: I don't think so
[05:05] <tortib> rww: the dovecot install didn't work properly
[05:05] <tortib> i don't even have a init.d script for it
[05:07] <tortib> okay i did a purge and reinstalled
[05:07] <tortib> it's there now LOL
[05:07] <tortib> weeeirdd
[05:07] <tortib> smtpd isn't working though
[05:08] <tortib> Aug 24 22:07:17 tortib postfix/smtpd[12058]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[05:08] <cjr> rww:  ahh, old-releases.ubuntu.com  .. great, thanks! i'll read the rest of that
[05:10] <tortib> any idea guys & gals?
[05:10] <tortib> brb
[05:10] <rww> cjr: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixAndDovecotSASL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixDovecotSASL
[05:10] <rww> erm, tortib ^^
[05:10] <rww> cjr: no problem :)
[05:10] <cjr> heh, sorry i messed up your tab :)
[05:11] <Neurome> quick questionaire
[05:11] <Neurome> ufw isn't working
[05:11] <Neurome> ive blocked an ip address but still see an active connection
[05:13] <Neurome> from & to XXX ip address meanwhile its still showing an active connection in another program, so i decided to due a quick reload, and status of UFW  reloaded successfully"status : ACTIVE"
[05:14] <Neurome> am i suppose to clear my dns cache or something ? or does it only work upon future connections & not terminate current connections
[05:15] <rww> I think it doesn't terminate current connections. not 100% sure, though.
[05:16] <Flannel> rww, Neurome: I believe that is the case.
[05:17] <cjr> rww: quick question - i have an scp session open with a job running that I should have started in screen, but didn't, so i don't wan't to disconnect before it's done. can i start the upgrade process now and be assured that it will prompt me before it reboots or disconnects me, or should i wait till my job is done? :)
[05:17] <Neurome> rww, Flannel, well i just d/c from the pool
[05:18] <rww> cjr: I'd wait. Upgrades tend to disconnect me halfway through.
[05:18] <Neurome> of several ip's reconnected and still see that ip handshaking my computer
[05:18] <cjr> rww: ok, thanks!
[05:20] <tortib> rww: I never had to do that before...and i just added that to /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and it still doesn't work :(
[05:20] <Neurome> Flannel, there still a connection between me & that ip address even after manually terminating and attempting to reestablish to that server
[05:20] <toqoz> can anyone help me install bar under ubuntu?
[05:22] <Beldar> toqoz, Try to detail what you're looking to do for help.
[05:22] <jpkbeddu> Can i hav unity launcher disabled? I use Plank dock and apps when minimized jump to unity launcher even if its in auto hide mode..
[05:22] <Flannel> Neurome: If you terminated the server, verified the connection was indeed closed, and then restarted the server and the identified external server re-connected, then that suggests that the firewall rule is not working properly (which likely means you didn't set it up appropriately)
[05:23] <tortib> rww: I"m getting this error with dovecot: Aug 24 22:21:50 tortib dovecot: imap(tortib): Error: open(/var/mail/tortib) failed: Permission denied (euid=1000(tortib) egid=1000(tortib) missing +w perm: /var/mail, we're not in group 8(mail), dir owned by 0:8 mode=0775)
[05:23] <tortib> I don't want my mail in /var/mail I want it in ~/Maildir
[05:23] <toqoz> beldar, when running make i get the error "bar.c:11:21: fatal error: xcb/xcb.h: No such file or directory" , might be doing it wrong in the first place (new to linux.)
[05:25] <Beldar> toqoz, What you need is probably in the repos, rather than a downloaded tar, again describe the end goal the channel, not me.
[05:25] <Beldar> to the*
[05:25] <Flannel> tortib: You need to set your mailbox location in the config file.
[05:26] <tortib> Flannel: which config?
[05:26] <Neurome> Flannel I did it shows the rule under status,
[05:26] <Neurome> To                         Action      From
[05:26] <Neurome> --                         ------      ----
[05:26] <Neurome> xx                      ALLOW       Anywhere
[05:26] <Flannel> tortib: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf (or something similar, conf.d or whatnot).  But dovecot.conf has a line for it, under "mailbox locations and namespace"
[05:26] <Neurome> xx/tcp                  ALLOW       Anywhere
[05:26] <Neurome> Anywhere                   DENY        171.*.*.*
[05:26] <unopaste> Neurome you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[05:27] <tortib> Flannel: k thx
[05:27] <tortib> Flannel: I don't see that in dovecot.conf
[05:27] <Flannel> tortib: You should probably go through that entire config file, there are some things that you'll want to set up that need to be (they've got appropriate notices around them)
[05:27] <toqoz> i want to install bar (bar aint recursive) under xubuntu but dont really know how, could somebody instruct me?
[05:27] <Flannel> tortib: Pastebin your conf file then, lets take a look.
[05:28] <Neurome> Flannel, However the port i opened is open but the ip isn't blocked
[05:28] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8137618/
[05:28] <Flannel> tortib: What version of Ubuntu is this?
[05:28] <tortib> Flannel: 14.04 LTS
[05:29] <Flannel> tortib: I imagine it's in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/* then
[05:30] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8137630/
[05:30] <tortib> which one?
[05:30] <toqoz> im assuming i need to use make as there is a makefile in the folder, though get this error when running it: bar.c:11:21: fatal error: xcb/xcb.h: No such file or directory (lf) #include <xcb/xcb.h> (lf) compilation terminated.
[05:30] <tortib> it isn't in mailboxes Flannel I just checked there
[05:30] <Flannel> tortib: Probably 10-mail or 15-mailboxes
[05:31] <tortib> AH
[05:31] <tortib> found it
[05:31] <tortib> it's in mail.conf
[05:31] <Flannel> So, you should probably go through all of these (which basically make up the dovecot.conf file) and make sure there isn't anything you need to do before running this for real (again, it'll be appropriately noted)
[05:32] <tortib> Flannel: what should I do about my smtpd though it isn't working :(
[05:32] <tortib> i can't connect to it
[05:33] <tortib> Aug 24 22:33:06 tortib postfix/smtpd[13940]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms is the error I receive.
[05:33] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8137644/ is my postfix config
[05:33] <Flannel> Are you running this? or connecting to a third party?
[05:33] <tortib> main.cf
[05:33] <tortib> Flannel: i'm running it
[05:34] <LostyJai> hey guys, how much data roughly do you have to download to upgrade 10.04 to 14.04 ?
[05:34] <LostyJai> i know you have to upgrade to 12.04 first
[05:34] <Neurome> if i block an ip address thats connecting over a port that ive opened would the rules conflict ?
[05:35] <tortib> Neurome: not if you keep the block rule below the open rule
[05:35] <tortib> er block rule above the open rule
[05:35] <toqoz> has anyone gotten bar (bar aint recursive) working on ubuntu? im getting an error during make
[05:35] <tortib> that way it blocks the IP first then it's open to everything else
[05:36] <Neurome> hm
[05:36] <Neurome> tortib is there a way to move the rule through command line or do you have to re order it in the config file ?
[05:36] <tortib> Neurome: you can use iptables -D
[05:36] <tortib> to delete it
[05:37] <tortib> iptables -D INPUT -p tcp etc etc
[05:37] <tortib> Neurome: or by line number works too *i think*
[05:37] <tortib> i haven't tried it that way
[05:37] <tortib> but it should work
[05:39] <Neurome> am too tired to be figuring this out
[05:39] <Neurome> : P O :
[05:40] <tortib> Flannel: any ideas?
[05:41] <Flannel> tortib: I don't know much about postfix, but googling that error gives a number of interesting results, including one that says setting smtpd_tls_auth_only to yes may be related.
[05:43] <tortib> Flannel: it is set to yes
[05:43] <Neurome> tortib thank you though
[05:44] <tortib> np
[05:44] <Neurome> i've just remembered another issue i couldn't find a solution for in google
[05:44] <Flannel> tortib: right, that's what the websites says is your problem (although it may be in conjunction with other settings).  As I said, I don't know a lot about postfix, so ask the internet, it seems this is a reasonably common issue for people.
[05:45] <Neurome> for some reasoning in youtube i get no lag while watching a video but downloaded or otherwise (from most other siteS) the video lags alot, & even when i stop the video the timer and frams still go
[05:45] <Neurome> and when i skip ahead in a downloaded video or in about any site other than youtube the audio cuts off even though i know the files good
[05:46] <Neurome> i also tried vlc media player
[05:47] <Neurome> default media player lags also
[05:47] <Neurome> : \
[05:49] <joe7dust> hey im back... still having the same problem
[05:49] <joe7dust> ubuntu 14 and lubuntu both don't seem to work with my integrated graphics
[05:49] <joe7dust> get black screen during early phases of install
[05:50] <toqoz> what intergrated graphics do you have?
[05:51] <joe7dust> s3g unichrome igp
[05:51] <joe7dust> system is hp a500n
[05:51] <joe7dust> its a via chip
[05:52] <joe7dust> i tried doing a search for a500n linux/ubuntu but it would seem I'm the first ever person to try linux on this model loll
[05:52] <Neurome> toqoz i know you were askin joe but anyways my graphics is , Intel® 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[05:53] <toqoz> neurome hahaha
[05:53] <toqoz> joe7dust ive never heard of those before
[05:54] <joe7dust> its like the installation splash screen comes up, language selection etc. but then I get zero signal from the video output
[05:54] <joe7dust> its a pavillion
[05:54] <joe7dust> they're very common actually
[05:54] <joe7dust> this a500n might not be but the pavillion series is
[05:54] <joe7dust> brb
[05:54] <tortib> Flannel: I got it working
[05:55] <tortib> Flannel: I installed the mail-stack-deliver package and it worked :p
[05:55] <tortib> mail-stack-delivery *
[05:56] <PC_Guy> Hello ppl!
[05:58] <ubunt> anyone know how only from the command line you can see images?
[05:58] <joe7dust> what do i do if both ubuntu 14 and lubuntu dont work with my s3g unichrome igp?
[05:58] <Neurome> toqoz, whats funny i have a old graphics :?
[05:58] <nrdb> tortib, still having trouble?
[06:00] <joe7dust> can anyone help?
[06:00] <lokoum> ubunt: you want to convert your image in ASCII to see it into the terminal ?
[06:02] <joe7dust> I guess I'm never going to be able to use linux on this machine then...
[06:02] <lokoum> did you try crunchBang ?
[06:03] <Neurome> joe7dust you could always try different distros
[06:03] <Neurome> just put it on a boot usb or disk first 2 see if it works
[06:03] <ubunt> no in ascii-image no i remember that only exist msdos without GUI , exist a program pqv that i can see images from command line , the same is posible to exist in linux system no?
[06:04] <lokoum> ubunt: sorry don't know
[06:06] <alukard> hola
[06:06] <wafflejock> hello
[06:07] <alukard> hola como estan
[06:07] <wafflejock> !es | alukard
[06:07] <wafflejock> alukard: estoy asi asi, pero no puedo habla espanol muy bien
[06:08] <wafflejock> ubunt: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/aview.1.html <-- is that what you're looking for
[06:11] <lokoum> wafflejock aview looks awesome but doesn't support png format :/
[06:12] <wafflejock> lokoum: you can use convert from imagemagick
[06:14] <lokoum> i'll try it now
[06:14] <tortib> nrdb: yeah
[06:14] <tortib> nrdb: I'm not able to connect to my roundcube webmail service
[06:14] <tortib> it says DATABASE ERROR!
[06:14] <tortib> but there isn't anything helpful int he logs
[06:14] <tortib> DATABASE ERROR: CONNECTION FAILED!
[06:14] <tortib> is the only thing it says
[06:20] <elky> tortib: did you set the database up?
[06:21] <tortib> elky: yeah I ran dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core
[06:21] <tortib> everything went fine, no errors.
[06:22] <Space-Duck> Can someone please help me with a PS1? The smiley is always true, because of the directory cmds called prior. How can I the cmd I entered, but keep the placement of the smiley? http://pastebin.com/a33rRq3z
[06:22] <ubunt> wafflejock: I install aview but when i want to see image output --> Invalid magic-not p?m family format
[06:22] <wafflejock> ubunt: yeah wrong format... I just tried it too for fun... you need to grab imagemagick
[06:23] <wafflejock> it has a program convert, then do convert orginalfile.jpg output.pgm
[06:23] <rww> Space-Duck: save the value of \$ to a variable at the start, test the variable instead of \$
[06:23] <wafflejock> then you can do aview output.pgm
[06:23] <rww> erm, $?
[06:24] <lokoum> it works only with pgm format ?
[06:24] <wafflejock> lokoum: yeah think so says it was written a while back
[06:24] <lokoum> okay
[06:24] <wafflejock> lokoum: http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aview/
[06:24] <alphabravo> Oh! I had a question.
[06:25] <alphabravo> wafflejock, What's aview, btw?
[06:25] <alphabravo> skimming.
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !aview | alphabravo,
[06:25] <wafflejock> alphabravo: nothing really just a program to open pictures as ascii art
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !info aview
[06:25] <Flannel> ubunt, wafflejock: if you install caca-utils, there's a "cacaview" program that'll view a good number of image formats.
[06:25] <ubunt> i only see image , i want not see image in asciimode, it's possible?
[06:25] <alphabravo> cfhowlett, Do I need to type that?
[06:25] <alphabravo> oh.
[06:25] <alphabravo> ASCII :D
[06:25] <alphabravo> I remember someone once ported Quake to ASCII. I wanted to play but never did.
[06:26] <rww> ubunt: sure, if you set up a framebuffer and then use one of the various framebuffer utilities, but that's rather annoying to do last I tried
[06:26] <rww> and rather more involved than I'd want to get into in #ubuntu
[06:26] <wafflejock> ubunt: oh sorry thought the ASCII thing is what you were looking for... didn't know why but figured I'd check
[06:26] <alphabravo> rww, maybe it would be a good candidate for a virtualbox vm.
[06:27] <alphabravo> A lot of hard to setup things can be made easy for people with fast computers by putting it in a vm.
[06:27]  * rww blinks
[06:27] <alphabravo> Nice eyes.
[06:28] <alphabravo> Anyone know which USB soundcards work well in Ubuntu?
[06:28] <cfhowlett> !hcl
[06:28] <alphabravo> I've been there.
[06:28] <alphabravo> I'd like to know what's a know good one. Like, definitely.
[06:28] <tortib> elky: any ideas? :\
[06:28] <alphabravo> I'm using a cheap one that I had to use one of the fixes with.
[06:28] <alphabravo> It is asynchronous, which seems to be the issue.
[06:29] <ubunt> exist a help ? what do framebuffer need to install for to do possible a view image in command line?
[06:29] <wafflejock> alphabravo: probably a good thing to check on the forums for, or reviews if possible
[06:29] <alphabravo> If you personally have one that works exceptionally well that would be welcome info.
[06:29] <alphabravo> wafflejock, yeah, did that.
[06:29] <alphabravo> There's nothing like a review or a batch of testing.
[06:29] <alphabravo> Mostly I can find ones that *don't* work.
[06:30] <alphabravo> "Asynchronous" you can find on packaging, but you don't see "synchronous," because it's considered a negative (but it isn't if you want it to work with Linux).
[06:30] <alphabravo> Well, that's my understanding.
[06:32] <alphabravo> hey sudoku
[06:32] <alphabravo> I never got good at sudoku.
[06:33] <alphabravo> For example, this page says "works": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsCreativeLabs
[06:33] <alphabravo> Well, mine "works," but not very well.
[06:34] <lokoum> have you try to turn it off and on ? :P
[06:34] <wafflejock> alphabravo: this might help http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_support?redirect=1
[06:34] <wafflejock> or this http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_matrix
[06:35] <alphabravo> Having a look.
[06:35] <wafflejock> could always get something with a penguin on it http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penguin-USB-2-0-Audio-Adapter-Card-for-Linux-Ubuntu-/270791927280
[06:35] <wafflejock> that's gotta be  good right :)
[06:37] <tortib> okay I got roundcube working
[06:37] <tortib> I purged it and reinstalled
[06:37] <tortib> but the plugins I installed with apt-get install roundcube-plugins roundcube-plugins-extra are not showing up
[06:38] <tortib> under settings
[06:38] <Space-Duck> wafflejock, how do you set \$ to a variable? I'm using http://pastebin.com/LCFsZqLA
[06:38] <wafflejock> Space-Duck: sorry man no idea what's going on there
[06:38] <cynicallemon> tortib: have you purged and reinstalled the plugins?
[06:39] <wafflejock> Space-Duck: I don't do much bash programming myself
[06:39] <tortib> cynicallemon: good idea :)
[06:39] <alphabravo> wafflejock, 8-| I have a c-media one. Maybe mine's a different version.
[06:39] <alphabravo> Mine says c119. I wonder if that's the same as CM119.
[06:40] <wafflejock> alphabravo: well was mostly joking about that though it does say it's for linux, either way would use the linuxaudio site as reference instead
[06:40] <wafflejock> alphabravo: seemed to have more info there
[06:40] <tortib> cynicallemon: that didn't help :(
[06:41] <wafflejock> tortib: you can check what the roundcube-plugins package installs
[06:41] <wafflejock> tortib: dpkg -L roundcube-plugins
[06:41] <wafflejock> or whatever the package name is
[06:41] <wafflejock> it probably extracts some stuff to /etc/apache2/something
[06:42] <wafflejock> or maybe just into the existing roundcube folder
[06:42] <tortib> ah I thought it would install a calendar :(
[06:42] <tortib> but it doesn't look like it does
[06:42] <wafflejock> tortib: yeah I have roundcube but haven't tried any plugins
[06:42] <tortib> it did install the address book though so that's cool
[06:42] <tortib> thanks wafflejock
[06:43] <wafflejock> tortib: np, I personally just use GMail for the calendar bits, use Thunderbird to bring everything together
[06:43] <tortib> wafflejock: i'm on OS X
[06:43] <tortib> so I use mail and Calendar
[06:43] <alphabravo> Yeah, wafflejock, it's odd. No problems in Windows, but both of my usb soundcards have issues in Ubuntu, though different-sounding glitches.
[06:43] <tortib> calendar integrates with google mail though so it's fine
[06:43]  * cynicallemon blames pulseaudio
[06:44] <tortib> but I wanted my users to have a calendar as well
[06:44] <alphabravo> cynicallemon, OK, should I kick pulse to the curb somehow?
[06:44] <alphabravo> Or, rather than should, could I?
[06:44] <wafflejock> alphabravo: well it's not too odd if the manufacturers only have windows device drivers but I'm no audio gear expert
[06:44] <alphabravo> As you might not want to be held responsible for my own errors.
[06:45] <alphabravo> Yeah, it's a bit funky.
[06:45] <cynicallemon> alphabravo: no doubt pulse is tied into ubuntu somewher
[06:45] <alphabravo> But it was only like $5 or something.
[06:46] <wafflejock> alphabravo: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture <-- found this helpful in debugging sound issues at various times
[06:46] <alphabravo> Do I understand correctly that JACK could be used to replace Pulse?
[06:46] <alphabravo> ty
[06:47] <wafflejock> !jack
[06:47] <wafflejock> !pulseaudio
[06:47] <wafflejock> !jackd
[06:47] <wafflejock> hmm
[06:48] <wafflejock> !info jackd
[06:48] <wafflejock> k I give
[06:48] <wafflejock> o there it is
[06:49] <alphabravo> "Sound skipping while using dynamic CPU frequency scaling" This may be my problem.
[06:49] <alphabravo> jackd means jack daemon?
[06:49] <alphabravo> I've installed it.
[06:49] <wafflejock> alphabravo: think so forum I found said "jack" package is something altogether different
[06:49] <alphabravo> aha, good to know.
[06:50] <wafflejock> alphabravo: yeah just read it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651435
[06:51] <alphabravo> wafflejock, When using jack do I need to do something to pulse? I just launched qjackctl.
[06:51] <HyrulianHero> Hello everyone I have a question about a flash drive not working.
[06:52] <HyrulianHero> the best summary of my situation is I used umount to unmount a flash drive and now I cannot seem to find it after plugging it back in.
[06:52] <HyrulianHero> any quick tips you can throw me?
[06:55] <Ububegin> I am testing for corrupted files using bzip2 -t corruptedFile.tar.bz2.. how do I log only those files which dont pass this test
[06:57] <jnhghy> in ubuntu 14.04 I saw I can choose while installing the os something like "photo editor" where the install process asked me if I want to include photo editing software (movies and sound editors also) is there a list with the default software that the installer will add to the os if I choose to install them?
[06:57] <alphabravo> HyrulianHero, What happened after you rebooted?
[07:00] <wafflejock> alphabravo: no idea just guessing on this stuff, like I said only read up on it a bit myself and no USB hardware here... though I'd like a USB mic
[07:00] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, It won't show me that the flash drive is present when it is physically plugged in. I used the command dmesg | tail and it says that there is a 16.2 G drive attached but I can't find a way to mount it.
[07:00] <alphabravo> wafflejock, totally understood. It looks like it's kind of the luck of the draw.
[07:00] <alphabravo> Too bad there's nothing certified.
[07:00] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, even after rebooting.
[07:01] <alphabravo> HyrulianHero, what does Disks say?
[07:02] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, "should I pastebin the output for you?"
[07:02] <a_p3rson> Looking for help installing HIDPoint on 14.04.1, kernel 3.13.0-34-generic. The installer is complaining of an unsupported kernel version - is it really a problem?
[07:02] <alphabravo> HyrulianHero, check Disks. I'm not the guy to give a pastebin.
[07:02] <alphabravo> But Disks will list mount points.
[07:02] <alphabravo> Disks is the name of the program.
[07:03] <alphabravo> If there are multiple volumes you can click on them. There's a hyperlink to open the mount point.
[07:05] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, I don't know anything about the Disks program but II can't seem to find it on my system.
[07:06] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, Howver the thing I suspect that may be my flash drive has a message that says /dev/sdb: sdb1
[07:07] <alphabravo> HyrulianHero, oh. You have 14.04? If you just type Disks after hitting the Ubuntu button it will come up.
[07:08] <helmut_> hi
[07:08] <alphabravo> I'm not sure about other versions.
[07:08] <alphabravo> hi
[07:09] <iscorpion> hello friends please help in joining windows workgroup using linux help me in configuring samba server config file
[07:13] <cynicallemon> iscorpion: take a look at this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[07:13] <alphabravo> cynicallemon, Do you have a usb soundcard?
[07:14] <cynicallemon> alphabravo: no
[07:14] <iscorpion> cynicallemon: thanku will follow d tutorial ryt now wish me luck :)
[07:14] <trex_> let me know to install live help messenger to ubuntu.
[07:15] <cynicallemon> iscorpion: good luck, just take your time and understand it
[07:17] <alphabravo> cynicallemon, know of one that works well with Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Aiena> do ubuntu and debian pacckages always follow the same naming ?
[07:21] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, I got Disks and used opened it however I still do not see the drives in my file  manager.
[07:21] <HyrulianHero> alphabravo, Note I can see them in Disks
[07:22] <Arahael> How do I fix this error? dpkg: error processing package libapache2-mod-wsgi (--configure):
[07:22] <geirha> Aiena: Ubuntu copies debian's packages. Adds some packages of its own, and modifies some of them, but for the most part, they are the same.
[07:23] <Arahael> I am attempting to get wsgi workign in ubuntu by using aptitude install libapache2-mod-wsgi, but it isn't working (and there isn't much diagnostic feedback)
[07:23] <Aiena> Ok thanks.
[07:23] <trex_> let me know to install live help messenger to ubuntu.
[07:23] <trex_> ??
[07:26] <Arahael> WEirdly, when I attempt to reinstall it, I get: E: Internal Error, No file name for libapache2-mod-wsgi:amd64
[07:27] <HyrulianHero> ls
[07:28] <HyrulianHero> hey hey be back l8r
[07:30] <Vladimir_> Is there an irc channel for HP (Hewlett Packard)?
[07:33] <somsip> !alis | Vladimir_
[07:34] <alphabravo> Hyperbyte, interesting. What's the mount point?
[07:34] <alphabravo> nevermind, Hyperbyte
[07:40] <Arahael> Found my issue. Seems that if you have /etc/apache2/mods_enabled/wsgi.conf, then that *breaks* libapache2-mod-wsgi
[07:50] <ray1> I am having trouble setting usbhid mousepoll=2 in 14.04
[07:50] <ray1> has anyone had issues with mousepoll in 14.04?
[07:51] <sadistic1heart> hi all
[07:54] <sadistic1heart> any one into BDSM?
[07:54] <ray1> no but I'd like some help
[07:54] <somsip> !ot | sadistic1heart (though that is waaaaay off topic even for #ubuntu-offtopic)
[07:56] <cfhowlett> sadistic1heart, wrong channel - WRONG
[07:56] <saju_m> I have an expect code like below. When executing it spawn VPN process and disconnect/kill the VPN process after except block. I want to keep that VPN process running even after except block. How to do this ? See http://dpaste.com/27D17Y4
[07:58] <ray1> how can I save and default to specific xrandr modes that I created  with cvt
[07:58] <cynicallemon> perhaps sadistic1heart wanted a bsd room...
[07:59] <trex_> How to MySQL Optimization at server ?
[08:02] <Vladimir_> what does this command do: ~/bin/rancid-cvs ?
[08:03] <ray1> it fucks up the base :(
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ray1, no profanity = family friendly discussion channel.  thanks.
[08:04] <cfhowlett> trex_, might want to discuss @ #ubuntu-server
[08:04] <Arbition> Vladimir_: Well it is in your home directory (~) so whatever rancid-cvs is
[08:04] <Arbition> cvs being concurrent version control
[08:05] <Arbition> for managing code
[08:05] <Vladimir_> Arbition: well I follow a guide and it tells me to run that command but I get an error "no such file or directory"
[08:05] <Vladimir_> Arbition: this is the guide: http://havermyer.com/?p=18
[08:06] <Arbition> Ah, so you start by changing to the rancid user's home directory and then execute that command in it
[08:06] <Arbition> seems odd to me
[08:07] <Arbition> but I guess thats how its been packaged
[08:07] <Arbition> looks like a recent tutorial
[08:08] <Arbition> Vladimir_: Do you know what the su command does?
[08:08] <Vladimir_> Arbition: it changes changes user?
[08:08] <juniour> hi
[08:08] <Arbition> yes
[08:08] <Vladimir_> Arbition: But nowhere in the guide does it say to create a user rancid
[08:09] <Arbition> it should be made automatically during install of the software. There are plenty of system user accounts
[08:09] <Vladimir_> okej
[08:09] <Vladimir_> Arbition: so what's the problem in my case?
[08:09] <Arbition> if you "less /etc/passwd" you'll notice a lot of users you didn't add and many match system utilities
[08:09] <Arbition> I still don't know
[08:10] <Vladimir_> this is in the passwd: rancid:x:111:121::/var/lib/rancid:/bin/false
[08:10] <Arbition> what version of ubuntu are you using? Same as the guide (12.04.04)?
[08:11] <Arbition> well assuming the su - rancid command works (which seems unlikely as the /bin/false "shell" is not a shell) the file /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-cvs does not exist
[08:11] <Vladimir_> it's a bit older, 10.04 Arbition
[08:11] <ssrepfler> hi, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 on a PC which has two network connections only one of them connected to the LAN and getting an IP address over DHCP (the DHCP only gives addresses to specific MAC addresses). Can I somehow bridge the first network interface with the second and then make it possible for a computer to connect directly to the second interface and be able to navigate?
[08:11] <Arbition> Oh well, the packaging of that package may be different on that version
[08:11] <Arbition> so that file may not be in the same location
[08:11] <Arbition> I don't have that version on hand so I can't confirm for you
[08:12] <frib> i'm trying to mount usb disk but it's not showing up in fdisk -l or blkid -- what can I do?
[08:12] <Arbition> check lsusb and see if the system recognises it as a USB device at all first
[08:13] <ray1> hi, I'm trying to set mousepoll=2 on ubuntu 14.04. I have tried setting it with grub conf and /etc/modules, like I did on 12.04, but with no results.
[08:14] <onr> What do you use to upload music to Apple iPod?
[08:14] <k1l_> onr: apple stuff is tied to prop. itunes
[08:15] <onr> k1l_: wrong
[08:15] <Arbition> yeah iDevices are moving targets. Something is made to make it work, then apple changes it with new firmware and projects
[08:15] <Arbition> *products
[08:17] <onr> hmm, obviously rhythmbox support ipod just fine
[08:17] <redwalk> ssrepfler: change net.ipv4.ip_forward=0 to =1 in/etc/sysctl.conf
[08:17] <frib> how can i fix this error? FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> onr, apple (possibly deliberately) breaks linux hacks with every update.  IMHO it's not worth the frustration to spend so much time/effort on a hack that will be useless within 6 months.  YMMV.  OLDER itunes/ipods may still be viable, but the newer hardware/itunes is almost always a generation or 2 behind.
[08:18] <onr> cfhowlett: ah, thankfully i'm using an old ipod and ios
[08:18] <cfhowlett> onr, that's why your stuff works.  :_)  rhythmbox is your friend
[08:18] <Arbition> frib: run as root (or with sudo) "fsck /dev/sdb1"
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !ipod | onr
[08:19] <ray1> I cant set mousepoll=2 please help!
[08:19] <Arbition> ray1: Sorry, I don't know anything about that
[08:19] <frib> Arbition: says No such file or directory -- Possibly non-existent device?
[08:20] <onr> !rockbox
[08:20] <Arbition> frib: What is it that is telling you that the volume was not properly unmounted?
[08:20] <onr> yay firmware replacement
[08:20] <frib> Arbition, dmesg
[08:20] <onr> danke cfhowlett
[08:20] <cfhowlett> onr, bitte
[08:21] <Arbition> frib: Does /dev/sdb exist?
[08:21] <frib> Arbition, i don't think so, but somehow dmesg mentioned it
[08:21] <Arbition> could you copy your dmesg to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[08:23] <Arahael> Why is my /tmp directory writable only by root?  How did that get changed?
[08:24] <frib> Arbition, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8138692/
[08:26] <Arbition> frib: [    2.636850] usb-storage 3-4:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [ 1380.613964] usb 3-4: USB disconnect, device number 2
[08:26] <Arbition> frib: looks to me like the system thinks its disconnected
[08:27] <frib> Arbition, even though it is?
[08:27] <Arbition> something might have failed, plug it in and out again
[08:27] <frib> Arbition, even though it is?
[08:27] <frib> sorry repeat.  ill try
[08:28] <frib> Arbition, still nothing in fdisk
[08:29] <Arbition> dmesg again if you could
[08:29] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8138739/
[08:29] <Arbition> thats the same one
[08:30] <frib> because i did the same thing twice in a row
[08:30] <Arbition> No I think the issue is there is a limit to the pastebin length
[08:30] <frib> ill just tail it then
[08:30] <Arbition> tail -n 500 should do it
[08:31] <boozo> hey folks I'm trying to install mint on some computer at work and I'm having problems (Yes I know it is no ubuntu but I know you can help me with debug)
[08:31] <Arbition> 996 is a strange line limit though
[08:31] <k1l_> !mint | boozo there is the mint support and they will help you
[08:31] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8138742/
[08:32] <Arbition> oh dear
[08:32] <boozo> ty
[08:32] <Arbition> if you did actually plug in and out the USB drive and nothing else changed, that flash drive or your USB controller is a bit stuffed
[08:32] <yell0w> i'm on xubuntu 12.04. I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html but hibernate still does not work from the menu. pm-hibernate works from terminal. any suggestions ?
[08:33] <Arbition> assuming it isn't dmesg failing that is
[08:33] <frib> Arbition, i broke the drive?
[08:33] <Arbition> they can break on their own
[08:33] <Arbition> try it on a different computer
[08:33] <Arbition> if you can
[08:34] <frib> i just connected it back to my rpi
[08:35] <Arbition> could you dmesg that?
[08:36] <frib> Arbition, my rpi recognized it phew
[08:36] <Arbition> ok so either something funky is going on in kernel land or you've got a trouble controller in your computer
[08:37] <frib> :\ but its a new laptop
[08:37] <frib> usb3 is reverse compatible right
[08:37] <Arbition> yes
[08:37] <Arbition> though actually USB is basically a different system completely, they just merged both into one connector
[08:37] <Arbition> the USB2 lines aren't even in use in USB3 mode
[08:38] <frib> well it should work basically
[08:38] <frib> ill try a different port
[08:38] <Arbition> if you can, try a non usb3 port
[08:38] <frib> i dont know if there ar eany
[08:38] <Arbition> because all the USB3 ports would be connected to one controller
[08:38] <Arbition> hmm, unforntunate
[08:39] <Arbition> Being USB3 though, might be a software issue
[08:39] <Arbition> Try restarting the machine, plugging it in after power up and see what happens
[08:40] <Arbition> if you are able to, try a different live disk distribution, in case there are kernel issues
[08:42] <frib> Arbition, could it be a bios issue?
[08:42] <Arbition> I guess it could be, but I'd put it further down on the likelyhood list
[08:43] <Arbition> Unless you mean experimental firmware on the controller itself rather than the system bios/efi
[08:43] <Arbition> though USB3 should be rolled into the PCH by now (assuming intel, I know little about AMD systems)
[08:43] <frib> Arbition, i have a usb2 stick that is recognized
[08:43] <frib> but this disk not?
[08:44] <Arbition> actually, do you have a USB2 only extension cable?
[08:44] <Arbition> or USB2 only hub
[08:44] <frib> i think i have a hub yea
[08:44] <frib> but i don't know how old it is
[08:45] <Arbition> shouldn't matter unless you know the hub doesn't wor
[08:45] <frib> i dont know that
[08:45] <frib> nor do i not not know that
[08:45] <Arbition> you have another USB2 stick you can test the hub with
[08:46] <frib> can't i just use the cable from the hard disk
[08:46] <frib> i assume that's what you're thinking might be the issue?
[08:46] <Arbition> No it isn't
[08:46] <Arbition> by using a USB2 only tansport, you force the disk into USB2 mode
[08:46] <Arbition> thus isolating whether it is a USB3 issue
[08:47] <frib> a usb2 stick doesn't do that?
[08:47] <Arbition> oh I thought you implied the one that doesn't work was USB3
[08:47] <frib> no it's usb2, whereas i have another usb2 small stick that works
[08:48] <Arbition> ah
[08:48] <Arbition> Hmm
[08:48] <frib> the non-working one is a 2tb
[08:48] <Arbition> ahhh
[08:48] <Arbition> ok I'm just going over your dmesg
[08:49] <Arbition> the one that doesn't work is 2TB you said right?
[08:49] <frib> yes
[08:49] <Arbition> ok that was never recognised by the system
[08:49] <Arbition> sdb was an 8GB device
[08:49] <frib> ah ok
[08:49] <Arbition> sda is a 250GB device
[08:49] <frib> that was my other usb3 stick
[08:50] <frib> Arbition, btw if a usb device is not mounted i can safely unplug it right
[08:50] <Arbition> sure
[08:50] <frib> so what is the conclusion then?
[08:50] <Arbition> the unmounting procedure is entirely about ensuring that cached writes are written to the disk,
[08:50] <Arbition> I'm still reading your dmesg
[08:51] <frib> oh it's recognized now ithink
[08:51] <Arbition> So the 2TB device is USB2?
[08:51] <frib> i changed usb port and somehow now it's recognized
[08:51] <frib> even though before it wasn't recognized in this port
[08:51] <Arbition> Not especially suprising
[08:52] <frib> for normal logic it is rather surprising actually :\
[08:52] <Arbition> I might add I have had a friend who had nothing but trouble with his HP Envy, but it was a very early generation
[08:53] <frib> Arbition, at first when i got it i was a little bit wary but actually it hasn't given me much trouble
[08:54] <frib> other than my mom broke the touchscreen while transporting it and i can't find a damn replacement part that works
[08:54] <Arbition> heh
[08:54] <frib> no srsly they are selling the touchscreen for more than i paid for the laptop
[08:58] <frib> thanks for the help
[08:58] <ubunt> why when i put who -q output 3 users and in home i only have one user?
[09:01] <boozo> so I tried ubuntu's installer and there is the same problem
[09:01] <boozo> when I try to install the ubuntu on the system the installer doesn't find/list my hard drive
[09:02] <boozo> I can manually mount it without a problem
[09:05] <hackal> Hello do you know any good screencap tool for creating gifs?
[09:06] <IamTrying> I am taking a Dedicated server its offering me to have CentOS 7 or Ubuntu 12.04. But i specially need Apache package which has built in ECDES_RSA chipper support
[09:06] <frib> hey Arbition, I'm also noticing that my swap and root partitions are not showing up in fdisk either .. any idea why?
[09:07] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 12.04 - apt-get install apache https  does it have built in ECDES_RSA? or its not ?
[09:08] <dragos> ubuntu is cool
[09:08] <dragos> i will never spam
[09:09] <Capprentice> ikonia, Can you help me in configuring SQUID! I need to know few things ...
[09:09] <boozo> Anyone know how do I get the installer to list my /dev/sda? :(
[09:10] <Capprentice> Hi Im trying to configure a Transparent Web Cache. What I have installed so far is the HTTP Proxy Server Module and Two NICs. eth0 has the IP:150.51.1.208, NM:255.255.255.0 and GW:150.51.1.1, now how do I configure the eth1 NIC so that traffic passes through SQUID and the WEBcache starts working?
[09:14] <frib> why doesn't fdisk -l list my swap partition?
[09:15] <tomodachi> frib: perpahs its not on the device you specified, or perhaps its a swap file , not a partition
[09:15] <tomodachi> frib: or perhaps its within an lvm
[09:15] <frib> tomodachi, no it's a partition that i specified while installing ubuntu
[09:15] <frib> tomodachi, it should be /dev/sda2
[09:15] <tomodachi> frib: are you using lvm?
[09:16] <frib> what is lvm?
[09:16] <tomodachi> linux volume management
[09:16] <frib> i dont know
[09:16] <tomodachi> try lvdisplay as root
[09:16] <tomodachi> if it spits out lot of output then yes
[09:16] <dragos> ubuntu dosent find my bluetooth adapter
[09:16] <frib> tomodachi, command not found
[09:16] <tomodachi> ok your not using it
[09:17] <frib> dragos, you should check the product/vendor id
[09:17] <frib> tomodachi, the partition shows up in parted -l but it doesn't give me the uuid .. but why doesn't it show in blkid and fdisk -l ?
[09:18] <dragos> no with fedora worcs
[09:19] <dragos> dfb
[09:19] <dragos> b
[09:19] <dragos> gb
[09:19] <dragos> fgbfgb
[09:19] <dragos> rgb
[09:19] <dragos> fg
[09:19] <unopaste> dragos you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:19] <tomodachi> frib: perhaps our partition is of the type GPT instead of the old format MBR
[09:19] <Ben64> dragos: that surely isn't the way to get help here
[09:19] <tomodachi> fdisk does not support GPT partitions
[09:20] <frib> tomodachi, how can i confirm that?
[09:22] <guy312_> can somebody help me with AP Dumb mode?
[09:23] <Farva> good eveing
[09:24] <Farva> I am trying to get a handle on linux perms, and this just drives me crazy
[09:24] <Farva> I have a dir that is in my name and group, I can enter it via my shell, but not my SFTP with the same user
[09:25] <Farva> so how do I tell this directory to always listen to me, and to stop uploading new files as root
[09:25] <tomodachi> Farva: sounds like a permissions mask set in your sftp server
[09:26] <Farva> you mean my filezilla?
[09:26] <Abhijit> no. thats just a gui client.
[09:26] <hateball> Farva: The FTP daemon you're using
[09:27] <Farva> 3rd day into all this, not sure what that means
[09:27] <unimatrix9> is there a good terminal webcam view way ?
[09:27] <Farva> if you mean for me to check my ssh_config?
[09:28] <Farva> do you mean...*
[09:28] <hateball> Farva: Oh my bad, you said sftp and not ftps
[09:28] <Farva> mhmm
[09:28] <Farva> =]
[09:29] <Farva> so how do I resolve this issue? I did not setup a perm mask that I can recall
[09:30] <t4nk042> hi
[09:30] <Farva> heyyy
[09:31] <t4nk042> I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS version for my server ....I always check partition space using "df -Th" command ....Today when I checked space using "df -Th" so it is showing a particular parition is full but when i checked using "du -sh"
[09:32] <t4nk042> it is not completely full.
[09:32] <t4nk042> is there any way to find out what is eating space on partiton ?
[09:33] <unimatrix9> baobab
[09:33] <t4nk042> I have also tried to check open files on partition using "lsof" command but no use.
[09:34] <redwalk> use du
[09:34] <redwalk> Or better yet du -sh
[09:37] <typ> du -sh *
[09:37] <typ> does list dirs with size
[09:37] <typ> in current folder
[09:37] <redwalk> du -sh /thefolderyouwant
[09:37] <hateball> t4nk042: also per default, 5% of partition space is reserved for root
[09:38] <redwalk> du -sh /* will give you the usage starting at root.
[09:39] <SrRaven-work> so, lets say I have two servers running Ubuntu Server, can I simply copy all relevant postfix files to the new machine ?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> !server | SrRaven-work,
[09:41] <t4nk042> but it's 1000GB partition and it's showing 80% used but du -sh shows 343 GB used.
[09:41] <SrRaven-work> thanks and sorry cfhowlett
[09:42] <cfhowlett> SrRaven-work, no worries, just trying to see you find your answer.
[09:47] <tortib> does anyone know how I can fix a mail looping error?
[09:47] <tortib> I just tried to send a message to one of my users and I got the mail looping error :\ undeliverable.
[09:47] <antivirtel> hello all! I've 12.04 LTS 32 bitsinstalled, and I want to upgrade to 14.04 LTS and at once, I want to change OS to amd64 architecture... can I do it without reinstalling?
[09:48] <hateball> antivirtel: No.
[09:49] <hateball> !clone | antivirtel
[09:49] <cfhowlett> antivirtel, nope.  torrent the 14.04.1 iso and clean install.  use the above to replicate your packages.
[09:49] <cfhowlett> hateball, does that apply with 32 > 64 bit repo change????
[09:49] <hateball> And backup your ~/ and other data you may have
[09:50]  * cfhowlett assumes that backup of ~/ goes without saying ...
[09:50] <hateball> cfhowlett: I *think* all package names are the same, just :i386 if 32-bit
[09:50] <antivirtel> hmm... thank you hateball and cfhowlett, can't I do the debian-upgrade way, that change the source's list i386 to amd64, and than dist-upgrade?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> antivirtel, sort of what I was wondering.  hateball?
[09:51] <hateball> Well, it's *possible* to switch archs, but it's certainly not supported or recommended afaik
[09:51] <antivirtel> yep, mee to
[09:51] <hateball> Assuming you have backups, you can give it a go
[09:51] <antivirtel> why? could it be problematic, or what?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> antivirtel, all things being equal, strongly suggest clean install first, then add packages.
[09:52] <P3n7u5> hi
[09:52] <P3n7u5> I have two packets conflicting on one file
[09:52] <akam> Hello all! Is it possible in ubuntu to start window app iconify with defined size(e.g. 50x50)?
[09:52] <P3n7u5> ruby and ruby-rdoc
[09:53] <P3n7u5> how can I get rid of it ???
[09:54] <P3n7u5> http://pastebin.com/5rJ420rN
[09:54] <P3n7u5>  
[09:54] <P3n7u5>     dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/ruby-rdoc_3.12.2-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[09:54] <P3n7u5>      trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/rdoc', which is also in package ruby 1:1.9.3.4
[09:54] <P3n7u5>     Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ...
[09:58] <antivirtel> thank you again hateball and cfhowlett, I've found a how-to for debian, I'll try to do it... thanks!
[10:10] <olspookishmagus> hello, does the LiveCD of 14.04 contain system-config-lvm thingy?
[10:13] <ray1> Hey everybody!!
[10:14] <ray1> I'm looking for some help
[10:14] <ray1> I can't get my usb to poll at 500hz
[10:14] <^^x^^__> ray1: just ask, somebody may help
[10:14] <ray1> but the usbhid parameters show mousepoll=2
[10:14] <ray1> everywhere. in grub cfg
[10:14] <ray1> kernel modules
[10:15] <ray1> I've tried all the methods I could find instructions on how to do
[10:15] <ray1> adding the parameter to /etc/modules worked on every other distro that I've tried
[10:15] <ray1> This is on 14.04 fyi
[10:18] <ray1> what can I do
[10:19] <ray1> make a post on askubuntu or something like that
[10:19] <ray1> where should I look for help on this, if not here
[10:24] <Kaapa> hey there
[10:25] <Kaapa> historically, /etc/resolv.conf gave me the dns provided by dhcp
[10:25] <Kaapa> in latest versions it's always pointing to 127.0.0.1
[10:25] <Kaapa> which I assume is a local dns daemon
[10:25] <cynicallemon> Kaapa: dnsmasq
[10:28] <Kaapa> ok... any way to make it reload / refresh / whatever? Cause I can't resolve an IP address the guy sitting next to me can
[10:28] <cynicallemon> sudo service dnsmasq restart ?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Kaapa  want to manually change the dns (nameserver)?
[10:29] <Kaapa> no service with that name
[10:29] <Kaapa> MonkeyDust: actually, I just wanted this to work
[10:29] <Kaapa> I have no idea what dns server is using
[10:29] <Kaapa> cause it's not resolving
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> Kaapa  do the following, i wonder why it has changed too... sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base ... then add 'nameserver [IP]' and save ... then run: 'sudo resolvconf -u' (that's -u for update)
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> without the quotes
[10:34] <Kaapa> why would I have to manually add the dns server that dhcp gives me in order to have a system that works?
[10:34] <Kaapa> what's the point of dnsmasq?
[10:35] <cynicallemon> dnsmasq is a forwarder
[10:35] <Kaapa> using connection information, I see that the dns server returned is <DNSIP>
[10:36] <Kaapa> if I do nslookup <IPIWANT> <DNSIP>, I get an address. If I just do nslookup <IPIWANT>... no
[10:43] <Kaapa> any tips on how to make this flush / whatever?
[10:43] <Kaapa> I really don't want to fix this issue by having to manually add to a confnig file every possible dns server I eventually get
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> Kaapa  is that a server?
[10:44] <Kaapa> it's my laptop
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Kaapa  why "every possible dns server"? why not just 1 ?
[10:46] <Kaapa> MonkeyDust: I plug my laptop in my office network. I get a dns server. Doesn't work. I manually add it. What guarantees do I have that this won't happen ever again?
[10:46] <Kaapa> this is dhcp
[10:46] <Kaapa> should "just work"
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Kaapa  using the procedure i just suggested, i guess you can add multiple nameservers, that of your office and that of your 'private usage'
[10:52] <Kaapa> MonkeyDust: you realize there's no 'private usage' here, right?
[10:53] <Kaapa> it's just the standard dns server
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Kaapa  ok, great, then add your office's name server address
[10:54] <Kaapa> that's just insane
[10:54] <Kaapa> well, I just edited  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and disabled dnsmasq
[10:54] <Kaapa> and now things are working
[10:55] <Kaapa> I can't believe it's normal having to add the dns info that dhcp returns to me to have a working dnsmasq
[11:00] <Guest86417> hi guys I used this command to search for cannong CR2 and jpg images. and I have some questions. find /home/josh/Desktop/test -type f -name "*.CR2" -o -type f -name "*.jpg" | wc -l > file.txt 1) this finds four images, 3 in the folder in question and one in a sub folder inside that. - how do I get it to only operate the files in the immediae folder?
[11:01] <hateball> Guest86417: use the --max-depth option
[11:01] <Guest86417> Oh amazing. Thanks And 2 ) how do I get it to ignore case of the file extention .e.g. jpg vs .JPG and to count both as part of the search?
[11:04] <Guest86417> thanks hateball !!
[11:07] <ray1> usbhid mousepoll is set to 2 but it's not working
[11:07] <ray1> where could the problem be?
[11:10] <Guest86417> hateball, thanks - i am confused what exactly does -maxdepth 0 do?
[11:19] <mate-Muuu> Hi everyone i am on ubuntu 14.10 mate, ehen trying to run sopcast i get this:
[11:19] <mate-Muuu> (sopcast-player.py:5001): libglade-WARNING **: unknown attribute `swapped' for <signal>.
[11:19] <mate-Muuu> (sopcast-player.py:5001): libglade-WARNING **: unknown attribute `swapped' for <signal>.
[11:19] <mate-Muuu> (sopcast-player.py:5001): libglade-WARNING **: unknown property `ubuntu_local' for class `GtkMenu'
[11:19] <mate-Muuu> Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked
[11:19] <mate-Muuu> Aborted (core dumped)
[11:19] <unopaste> mate-Muuu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:20] <hateball> Guest86417: like it says in the manpage, it just searches where you tell it to, no subdirectories
[11:20] <k1l_> mate-Muuu: for 14.10 please use the #ubuntu+1 channel since its still in development. and please do use pasteservices to not spam the channel.
[11:20] <mate-Muuu> ubuntu+1 ok
[11:24] <th3host> how can I upload my app to software center?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> th3host  you can't, make it a PPA and hope someone picks it up
[11:25] <th3host> ok
[11:25] <k1l_> th3host: see http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[11:25] <th3host> got it.
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> th3host  and when it's tested and approved by the ubuntu team, they can add it
[11:25] <th3host> ty
[11:31] <lexx> hello
[11:34] <psih0man> hello! I got a driver error on a Ubuntu 14.04 system: "[2053776.131961] mptbase: ioc0: LogInfo(0x30030108): Originator={IOP}, Code={Invalid Page}, SubCode(0x0108) cb_idx mptctl_reply" and I cannot find good documentation about it using Google Search... can anyone help me debug it, please?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> psih0man  is this very old post useful (2004!!!) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/no-module-mptbase-found-for-kernel-174226/
[11:40] <psih0man> MonkeyDust: I actually just found something by truncating the log line here (2009-2012): https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
[11:41] <Vladimir_> I can't install packages with apt-get install, i get packages have unmet dependencies
[11:42] <k1l_> Vladimir_: pastebin the output please
[11:42] <Vladimir_> I just installed ubuntu 12.04, it's a fresh install so I wonder
[11:42] <hateball> Vladimir_: have you done "sudo apt-get update"
[11:42] <Vladimir_> hateball: yes but it fails
[11:43] <Vladimir_> k1l_: I can't copy paste since i go through a vmware machine
[11:43] <Vladimir_> I need to install openssh-server
[11:44] <k1l_> Vladimir_: apt-get update fails? why does it fail?
[11:44]  * hateball guesses networking issues in a VM
[11:44] <Vladimir_> k1l_: I get: openssh-server: Depends: libwrap0 (>= 7.6-3) but it is not installabe
[11:44] <k1l_> hateball: yep, me too.
[11:45] <k1l_> Vladimir_: do a sudo apt-get update first # to make sure you got the latest list of packages
[11:45] <Vladimir_> it's no ´problem to ping google.com or other connection
[11:45] <k1l_> "sudo apt-get update"
[11:46] <Vladimir_> I'm doing the update now and it's downloading stuff and later there's a bunch or lines saying. W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib...../se.archive.ubuntu.com_...
[11:46] <Vladimir_> of
[11:46] <Vladimir_> and the last line is "E: some index files failed to download. They have been ignored or old ones used instead"
[11:47] <k1l_> try the main servers then. maybe the se servers or your route to the se servers is corrupt
[11:48] <k1l_> if you have a outdated package list (like you have when there is an error with apt-get update) one package will say it needs other packages versions than you got on your system.
[11:48] <Vladimir_> k1l_: I think I solved it now
[11:49] <Vladimir_> I just typed "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[11:49] <Vladimir_> yes, it works now, thank you :)
[11:53] <thomaschaaf> Hello I installed utopic on a trusty vm and now that vm wont boot up anymore: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5910/Jing/2014-08-25_1348.png the vm is based on xen 4.1 (debian)
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> thomaschaaf  utopic isnt ready yet, support in #ubuntu+1
[11:54] <k1l_> thomaschaaf: since 14.10 is still in development please see the #ubuntu+1 channel for support.
[11:54] <Vladimir_> k1l_: thank you=)
[11:55] <thomaschaaf> thanks will try there :)
[11:56] <femtac> Hi, what is the best alternative to notepad plus plus text editor on Ubuntu. It needs to absolutely have the FTP plugin to list files and edit them directly on the server.
[11:59] <Farva> okay, I am having a very odd problem that is detrimental to my work today
[12:00] <Farva> I am locked out of my main directory even though I am logged in with the right user and I have ownership of the directory
[12:00] <Farva> I ran chmod -R farva:farva <dir>
[12:00] <Farva> and it locked me out
[12:01] <k1l_> which dir? and what is your actual real username on that system?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> Farva  try bluefish
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> femtac  ^^^^
[12:04] <Farva> I am a linux newb, I have no idea what that is
[12:04] <Farva> 3 days in
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> femtac   try bluefish
[12:04] <Farva> to any shell commands of any sory
[12:05] <Farva> sort*
[12:05] <Farva> so I don't know if you are telling me to run 'femtac' or 'bluefish' or both...
[12:05] <femtac> MonkeyDust: thanks, will try it now
[12:06] <Farva> oh
[12:06] <Farva> there is a person lol
[12:07] <superlou> I'm trying to set up the Openfire XMPP chat server on a company intranet on an Ubuntu precise server, and by default, XMPP uses port 5222.  Our IT guys say they're not blocking any ports, but when we try to connect on port 5222, we get timeouts.  If I change Openfire to listen on a different port, it is successful.  I can use a local XMPP client to connect to the server at localhost:5222 but not across the network at myserver:5222.  We have
[12:07] <superlou> hostname resolution working for other services (apache2).  Is there a definitive way to determine if Ubuntu is blocking the connections, or something else on the network?
[12:07] <Farva> How can I change the permission of my directory when chown is denied?
[12:08] <eeee> Farva: chown is denied?
[12:08] <Farva> yes
[12:08] <eeee> meaning what?
[12:08] <Farva> I wanted to gain ownership of a dir and a tech guy said to run: chmod -R ,dir>
[12:08] <Farva> after I ran that, I was deneid access to the directory
[12:08] <geirha> Farva: You're saying your homedir is no longer accesible to you? what does    ls -ld ~    output?
[12:09] <Farva> when I ls -l it shows I have ownership of the entire dir and all its contents
[12:09] <Farva> I am logged in with the correct user
[12:09] <Farva> even when I root the command I am told access denied
[12:09] <linux> подскажите а правда что ебунту хуета редкостная ?
[12:10] <eeee> Farva: chmod -R <dir> wont do anything, as you didn't specify any permission's
[12:10] <linux> так и думал
[12:10] <eeee> !rs | linux
[12:10] <k1l_> !ru | linux
[12:10] <Farva> oh sorry, it was chmod -R farva:farva dir
[12:10] <Vladimir_> a tiny problem with rancid, I'm running this guide: http://havermyer.com/?p=18 and very early when I run ~/bin/rancid-cvs it says No such file or directory :/¨
[12:10] <Farva> which put all the perms into my name and group
[12:10] <geirha> Farva: Do you really mean chmod, or did you mean chown?
[12:11] <Farva> but when I try to access it in any way I am told denied
[12:11] <Farva> I really mean chmod
[12:11] <geirha> that's invalid
[12:11] <Farva> that was what I was told to run earlier by some one else
[12:11] <eeee> Farva: that also doesn't do anything, it should be chown -R <user>:<group> <dir>
[12:11] <Farva> well, it changed the ownership of my files and dir into my name
[12:11] <geirha> Farva: what are the permissions now? ls -ld /the/dir
[12:11] <k1l_> what dir is it anyway?
[12:11] <geirha> Farva: chown changes ownership, chmod changes mode
[12:12] <Farva> d-wx-wx--x 14 farva farva
[12:12] <geirha> Farva: there you go, missing read access
[12:12] <Farva> how can I add that?
[12:12] <geirha> chmod 775 /the/dir
[12:12] <k1l_> what? no read allowed?
[12:12] <eeee> Farva: what are the permissions you would like?
[12:13] <Farva> all, I am the core user
[12:13] <eeee> Farva: what about others?
[12:13] <k1l_> what dir does get such permissions?
[12:13] <geirha> do not use -R with that though
[12:13] <eeee> ( not the user or group )
[12:13] <Farva> I have one other guy, but I haven't set up much for him yet
[12:13] <Farva> its a small server
[12:13] <Farva> for now, I just need to be able to access thi
[12:13] <Farva> this*
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, how do I find all the folders that start with theme* in a certain path?
[12:13] <Farva> outside of root of course
[12:14] <geirha> Farva: It's dangerous to use chown and chmod when you do not fully understand how they work. I recommend taking a step back and learn it properly. Here:  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[12:14] <Farva> ty geirha
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  try   find [path] -name "theme*"
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> just did that it worked, thank you!
[12:21] <pasbara> hi i need help to fix this nvidia bug in ubuntu there are so many posts about it but i can't get it to fix
[12:22] <pasbara> when i install the nvifia driver, ubuntu crashes after loggin in it doesn't work, the desktop is very odd icons are different can't set the brightness it's like the vga is not installed
[12:22] <pasbara> *nvidia
[12:23] <pasbara> how can i fix this and install the driver?
[12:24] <femtac> MonkeyDust: Thanks, bluefish works pretty good for my purpose, with autcompletion as well.
[12:25] <Kaapa>  /wc
[12:39] <Delian> Hi All . how can i check what gpu driver i have and if there is better one ? i am not sure if that is my problem but all the time when i try to watch some movie ,the pic stack and sounds go on normally .any advice please?
[12:40] <Delian> i have acer extensa 5420 with vista before
[12:42] <Delian> Hi All . how can i check what gpu driver i have and if there is better one ? i am not sure if that is my problem but all the time when i try to watch some movie ,the pic stack and sounds go on normally .any advice please?
[12:44] <Delian> Hi All . how can i check what gpu driver i have and if there is better one ? i am not sure if that is my problem but all the time when i try to watch some movie ,the pic stack and sounds go on normally .any advice please?
[12:45] <Delian> Hi All . how can i check what gpu driver i have and if there is better one ? i am not sure if that is my problem but all the time when i try to watch some movie ,the pic stack and sounds go on normally .any advice please?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !patience | Delian
[12:45] <IdleOne> I think if you try repeating it a few more times per second you will get an answer a lot faster
[12:45] <ikonia> Deihmos: best to leave it a while before repeating the question
[12:46] <IdleOne> or you'll get 3 people telling you to stop repeating so quickly :)
[12:46] <Delian> ok i am crawling here :) forgive me please my ignorance
[12:46] <Delian> iv got it sorry
[12:48] <Delian> i have mint 17 kde if thats help to help me
[12:48] <riffraff> hi everyone
[12:48] <riffraff> I'm trying to upgrade a server from 12.04 to 14.04
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !mint | Delian, perfect!  here's your answer: you're in the wrong channel.  Ask for mint support from mint.
[12:49] <Pici> Delian: We don't support Mint at all here.
[12:49] <fajung> hi, I'm on 14.04,, I have set my keyboard to spanish, so [Alt Gr] + ['] = ? but sometimes it does the _, and from time to time, the numpad light get off without me switching it
[12:49] <riffraff> but something seems wrong with my cgconfig.conf file
[12:49] <Pici> oops, too slow :)
[12:49]  * cfhowlett still doesn't understand why so many thing ubuntu is the spot to ask for mint support
[12:49] <cfhowlett> *think*
[12:49] <riffraff> namely: "Cgroup mounting failed"
[12:49] <riffraff> my google fu fails me
[12:50] <Delian> ok since i am very new on linux and on irc coul some one give me a tip how to go to the right place please?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Delian, same way you joined this channel.   /join #linuxmint-help
[12:50] <HaaPut> Delian: I guess u can get driver info using  lspci
[12:50] <eeee> Delian: /server irc.spotchat.org
[12:50] <Delian> i just open irc
[12:50] <Delian> so here i am
[12:51] <eeee> then what cfhowlett said
[12:51] <Delian> i dont know how to use it
[12:51] <IdleOne> Delian: in this window you will type /server irc.spotchat.org and then /join #linuxmint-help
[12:51] <Delian>  /server irc.spotchat.org
[12:52] <Delian> nothing !
[12:52] <andyfied> delian
[12:52] <IdleOne> Delian: no space before the /
[12:52] <andyfied> don't put a space at the front
[12:52] <Delian> irc.spotchat.org
[12:53] <andyfied> of course, typing /server tends to close the current connection instead of just opening a new one...
[12:59] <fajung> how can I prevent the keyboard to auto switch to english, I need to be on Es ub14.04
[13:01] <MadLamb> I press the chrome button in my laucher, it blinks for a while and stops blinking, chrome doesnt open. Then i search for chrome in the dash search, and click there, it opens. what might it be?
[13:02] <lu> ifconfig wlan down doesn't work?  Any ideas?
[13:02] <lu> ifconfig wlan0 down doesn't work?  Any ideas?
[13:04] <himansurathi> i had installed tlp with flgrx driver and my whole ubuntu screen was flickering when i rebooted the computer. Any ideas why tlp did not work?
[13:06] <himansurathi> How can i prevent overheating of my computer in ubuntu?
[13:06] <pgar23> MadLamb: Try checking /var/log/syslog for errors related to Chrome
[13:07] <pgar23> himansurathi: monitor /proc/cpuinfo - snapshot of processes
[13:08] <Voyage> How can I see the running processes by user id?
[13:09] <Voyage> how can I see each user ID and name on my system?
[13:09] <himansurathi> Actually I had to reinstall ubuntu again.So i cannot give a snapshot but The screen was divide into two halves and the screen did not refreshed on clicking any application although there was no such effect observed in windows.
[13:10] <himansurathi> I just wanted to know the reason because i installed tlp on ATi AAdeon graphics card to prevent overheating of my laptop in ubuntu
[13:10] <pentatonic> hello all! my computer is driving me crazy. I thought I solved this when I got help a few days ago, but it is happening again. the helping user said it had to do with wifi power savings, and it really had helped meanwhile. but since last night the browser/cursor freezes with absolutely there is nothing to freeze (when 1 tab is open).
[13:11] <himansurathi> And what software should someone install to prevent overheating in ubuntu and extend battery life?
[13:14] <Amoz> himansurathi, there's not much you can do there except installing proprietary drivers (which usually has more power-saving features implemented) and maybe powertop
[13:18] <vorsprung> hi
[13:18] <vorsprung> just "upgraded" to 14.04 from 12.04 and I have a breakage
[13:19] <vorsprung> I had to install and run boot-repair to make it come up at all
[13:20] <vorsprung> now if I boot normally it seems to run a lot of init scripts / upstart stuff but the graphical screen login doesn't appear
[13:20] <himansurathi> Will Installing powertop will not hamper the computer like tlp did?
[13:20] <vorsprung> ctl-alt-f1 etc works that's what I'm using now
[13:20] <himansurathi> Sorry for above comment Will powertop not hamper ubuntu like tlp?
[13:21] <Amoz> himansurathi, maybe powertop doesn't apply to you, it's an intel-developed tool.
[13:21] <pbx> is there any way to get the "type your command" feature (which comes up when i tap alt) to show keyboard shortcuts along with the command names? or anything similar to it that does?
[13:22] <Vladimir_> I get one problem with Rancid, when I run clogin to a switch it says that the .cloginrc file does not exist in the /home/rancid/.cloginrc directory. Why does it look in that directory since I created that file in /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc ?? very strange, how do I change where clogin looks for that file?
[13:25] <k1l_> Vladimir_: i am not sure if that much users have a clue of rancid. i think you are better off with asking the rancid guys.
[13:26] <pbx> for a second i thought there was a new release coming, like Rancid Raccoon
[13:26] <Combatjuan> I have build-essential and make installed but when I try and use it "The program 'make' is currently not installed....".  Sure enough "locate bin/make" and "ls /usr/bin/make" confirm it does not exist.  Ubuntu Precise Server 12.04.
[13:27] <eeee> Combatjuan: i think it should come by default
[13:27] <eeee> sudo apt-get install make
[13:29] <Combatjuan> eeee - Right.  It claims to already be installed.  It's obviously not.  I removed build-essential and reinstalled it which did not help.  I just remove make (and build-essential by dependency) and reinstalled and... it did work?  So, I guess that's good.
[13:36] <veryhappy> hey guys - trying to install ubuntu minimal on a system without an ethernet but only wifi access, installation finished without errors and i had access once on the AP but since the install of unity in my new installed system with ubuntu 14.04 x64 everything changed. it always says
[13:36] <veryhappy> session failed, and i wanted to fix that but now i always get with the usage of wpa_supplicant: 4-way-handshake failed and the message ssid not found, anyone who can help?
[13:40] <alinmear> veryhappy: did you configure NetworkManager?
[13:43] <veryhappy> alinmear: no, its not configured yet and also not configurable, i dont have a possibility to even log in into Unity, because this one is broken.
[13:47] <lord4163> I want to run Prestashop on my Ubuntu Server, but I'm having weird issues, the installer stops at 23% Create default shop and languages
[13:47] <amanthakur> Hi guys, any body using eclipse IDE for c++ programs???
[13:48] <tomodachi> amanthakur: nope, but its doable I hear
[13:48] <Voyage> HOW to get rid of my local language text (put into every app), ? i just want english only
[13:49] <amanthakur> tomodachi, i have downloaded the eclipse cdt package and extracted it on my ubuntu 14. But when i am trying to run it. It is not working. Java is installed on my machine already
[13:50] <musher> got to write own xorg.conf
[13:50] <musher> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_resolution_changes_in_xorg.conf_--_resolution_lower_than_expected
[13:50] <musher> default xorg.conf?
[13:53] <Matt3o12> I’m seeing a lot of these messages in my log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8140905/ What is this user trying to do?
[13:53] <alinmear> amanthakur: yes, used it for 2 projects on univerity; but intellisense lacks a little bit, compared to visual studio or qtcreator (like the last one much more for c++ coding)
[13:53] <ronaldsmazitis> unity is having problems with delays on taskbar
[13:54] <Voyage> HOW to get rid of my local language text (put into every app), ? i just want english only
[13:54] <getseclectic_> anyone familiar with how the default dns setup works? every time i try to get help with it people tell me they just disabled it because they hate it
[13:54] <amanthakur> alinmear, visual studio is meant for Windows applications mainly :P not linux....and i am gonna run device driver programs on it. So was trying to figure it out, why it isn't running.
[13:56] <alinmear> amanthakur: kk (btw. i was talking about intellisense and code completion; that's why i mentioned vs); did you check your JAVA_PATH?!
[13:56] <amanthakur> alinmear,  i have downloaded this one http://archive.eclipse.org/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/SR2/eclipse-cpp-ganymede-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[13:56] <amanthakur> i have setted up JAVA_HOME
[13:57] <veryhappy> Alright, to make things clear: Hey guys, i'm doing a fresh installation of Ubuntu 14.04 x64 (minimal installation) on my notebook with an external disk. The Linux system that this is all about is on an external disk, so that every internal systems are secure and thus usable in emergency cases. I finished the installation successful and connected myself with wpa_supplicant successfully the...
[13:57] <veryhappy> ...first time. After the installation of unity wpa_supplicant was not usable anymore. I get error messages like "4-way-handshake failed" and "no ssid was found". Please only helpful and serious comments. Helpful answers are appreciated. Thank you.
[13:58] <simpleuser> I can’t add my Gmail account on Geary. "Impossible to validate"
[13:58] <getseclectic_> trying to get my work vpn to work without routing all my traffic through it but adding the dns server under 'additional dns servers' doesn't work
[13:58] <simpleuser> I checked many times my email and pass. I even copied and pasted it. But no way. Any idea?
[13:59] <getseclectic_> i've been manually editing my resolv.conf after every time i connect and it sucks
[13:59] <amanthakur> veryhappy, if you gonna use it in emergency situations only. Then, i would rather recommend to use a light windows manager like Fluxbox. That works great in this type of scenarios
[14:00] <amanthakur> alinmear, any ideas ??
[14:00] <veryhappy> amanthakur: Read twice next time please: This system i'm using right now is my internal system that i use everyday and i just use the external system to experiment. OK?
[14:01] <getseclectic_> being a dick isn't going to get you any help
[14:01] <getseclectic_> good luck
[14:02] <alinmear> amanthakur: can you pastebin some debug informations about eclipse please
[14:04] <amanthakur> alinmear, when i am doing ./eclipse after extracting the eclipse cpp package, i am getting an error "No such file or directory"
[14:07] <kuldud> hi
[14:07] <ronaldsmazitis> ANOTHER TIME DELAY IN TASK BAR
[14:07] <ronaldsmazitis> why??
[14:08] <kuldud> how do i burn ubuntu on a disk so i can install it on a computer
[14:08] <kuldud> ?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> kuldud, disk?  not USB?
[14:08] <alinmear> amanthakur: slow down with an old man dude :P ... (1) you are using ubuntu? (2) you installed java and eclipse with apt? (3) your downloaded the tarball and extracted it? (4) you tried to start some kind of binary or shell script called ./eclipse?
[14:08] <kuldud> yea usb doesnt work
[14:09] <cfhowlett> kuldud, download ISO.  burn DVD with netbootin.
[14:09] <kuldud> ok
[14:09] <kuldud> ill try that thanks
[14:09] <cfhowlett> *Unetbootin*
[14:11] <amanthakur> alinmear, lolzz....you seems to be an Old Man :P (1) yes i am using ubuntu 14 (2) i have installed Java with apt but not installed eclipse (3) i have downloaded and extracted this eclipse pack http://archive.eclipse.org/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/SR2/eclipse-cpp-ganymede-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz (4) i am trying to run eclipse executable from the extracted package
[14:11] <leotr> i! I have python script that executes and controls another executables. When i add it to .xinitrc file and startx (startx is in my .profile) it hangs and ps -ax shows me that all processes are in T start. If i cleanup .xinitrc and startx and then run my python script manually from xterm it works fine. What can be a reason of that?
[14:13] <plty> leotr, fork it into the background (append &)
[14:13] <kuldud> unetbootin tells me how to boot with usb i want to boot with cd
[14:14] <nashant> Hey guys, my system keeps beeping but there's nothing in syslog. Could this be due to my power supply not being powerful enough?
[14:14] <getseclectic_> amanthakur, what files are in the directory after extracting the tarball
[14:15] <cfhowlett> kuldud, brasero = you're right. sorry.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> kuldud, "burn an image" (that would be your ubuntu.iso) to disk
[14:16] <kuldud> can i do it with windows or a 3rd software
[14:17] <cfhowlett> kuldud, of course.
[14:18] <kuldud> how
[14:18] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, http://s8.postimg.org/ci1lbqzid/screen.png
[14:18] <cfhowlett> kuldud, lots of options.  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=burn+image+disk+windows&t=canonical
[14:19] <Neurome> Hey would someone point me in the right direction to repairing my video driver
[14:19] <elmaestro> hi guys, what is ubuntu equivalent of windows paint? want to edit an image
[14:20] <getseclectic_> ok so there's definitely an eclipse binary in there
[14:20] <amanthakur> elmaestro, i think xpaint
[14:20] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, yes :)
[14:20] <leotr> plty: if i fork it to background then xinitrc finishes execution and X restarts again and again
[14:20] <Neurome> why does video lag in vlc, & in the bundled media players, but in youtube plays fine
[14:20] <getseclectic_> do an ls -al in that directory
[14:21] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, yes did
[14:21] <getseclectic_> what does it look like
[14:21] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, output is somewhat similar to ll
[14:22] <Neurome> ..??
[14:22] <getseclectic_> can you paste it
[14:23] <logicalguy> hello, I have ubuntu 14.04 on my home server.  I use it as a test platform for my web apps.  I also have ubuntu as KVM OS on my laptop, so I can have a mobile version of my home server.  Is there any tool to make sure these 2 ubuntus are identical?  Thanks.
[14:23] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, http://pastebin.com/Y8eq1Q8k
[14:24] <getseclectic_> ok do ./eclipse and paste exactly what comes out
[14:24] <getseclectic_> it seems like it must be something silly going wrong
[14:24] <eeee> logicalguy: you can get a list of all packages installed, dpkg --get-selections > packages
[14:24] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory
[14:24] <Neurome> logicalguy, im not sure of an app, but your general direction should be something along the lines of, "syncing between two ubuntu computerS"
[14:24] <Desu> amanthakur: file eclipse
[14:24] <getseclectic_> yeah
[14:24] <Desu> amanthakur: uname -m
[14:24] <getseclectic_> i'm guessing it's a script
[14:24] <eeee> logicalguy: and then on the other machine do the same with a different filename, and then use diff packages packages1 , and see the differences
[14:25] <logicalguy> eeee, yes, but I'd like to automate it
[14:25] <eeee> automate it how
[14:25] <amanthakur> Desu, getseclectic_: eclipse: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped
[14:25] <logicalguy> Neurome, yes, perhaps a config management tool like chef, but I was wondering if it will be overkill, for just two OS instances
[14:26] <amanthakur> Desu, getseclectic_: x86_64
[14:26] <Desu> amanthakur: and uname -m ?
[14:26] <Desu> amanthakur: well, there is your problem
[14:26] <Neurome> logicalguy, maybe this helps , http://askubuntu.com/questions/88991/sync-completely-two-ubuntu-machines
[14:26] <Desu> amanthakur: install a 64bit build of eclipse instead
[14:26] <amanthakur> Desu, oh ok sad
[14:26] <Desu> amanthakur: why are you using some binary from a random site instead of the ubuntu package btw?
[14:27] <getseclectic_> yeah i would probably just install the package
[14:27] <getseclectic_> or switch to intellij :P
[14:27] <Desu> s/intellij/gvim/  fixed
[14:27] <amanthakur> Desu, thanks for pointing that......actually i was trying to setup a device driver development environment....so i was following a guide....but i think i should install it from the apt now that would be better and easier :)
[14:27] <logicalguy> Neurome, thank you
[14:28] <Neurome> Por NAda
[14:28] <frib> i can't seem to get icons to show up in my file manager .. using fluxbox .. any suggestions? thanks
[14:28] <logicalguy> Neurome, thank you
[14:28] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, intellij ???
[14:28] <plty> leotr:you should finish xinitrc with calling your window manager
[14:28] <plty> check the man page
[14:28] <getseclectic_> it's a different ide
[14:29] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, is it having the autocompletion functionality?
[14:30] <getseclectic_> haha yeah
[14:30] <getseclectic_> i like it a lot better than eclipse personally
[14:30] <getseclectic_> our whole team switched at work
[14:31] <getseclectic_> but if you are following a guide it might be easier to just do what they say
[14:31] <Neurome> Gr, why is my video lagging in anything but youtube
[14:32] <amanthakur> getseclectic_, i was just using a guide to setup environment but it doesn't matter if i switch to another IDE
[14:32] <amanthakur> even i would like to give it a try if it free
[14:33] <unopaste> getseclectic_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:33] <unopaste> amanthakur you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:34] <Neurome> Gr, why is my video lagging in anything but youtube >?
[14:34] <Cuppa_coffee> neurome, install the propietary (sp?) drivers for your video card?
[14:34] <Neurome> shouldn't the update feature automatically *update* my drivers?
[14:35] <Cuppa_coffee> no
[14:35] <Neurome> gr
[14:35] <Cuppa_coffee> they are developed by your graph card developer
[14:35] <Cuppa_coffee> and thus closed source
[14:35] <Cuppa_coffee> what vid-card do you have in your system?
[14:37] <Neurome> Video Card:   Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (Up to 224MB shared5)
[14:37] <Neurome> The GMA 950 graphics core is an intelligent and responsive graphics engine built into the chipset that is on the motherboard. This integration provides incredible visual quality, fast graphics performance and flexible display options.
[14:41] <Cuppa_coffee> Neurome, check system settings - software & updates - additional drivers
[14:41] <Cuppa_coffee> if you have multiple options, try the proprietary driver
[14:42] <Neurome> Cuppa_coffee it says no proprietary drivers in use
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Neurome, I installed the new intel linux gpu drivers.  immediately expanded my gaming options to include games that previous didn't run.
[14:42] <Neurome> "no additional drivers advailable"
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Neurome, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intel-linux-graphics-installer
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Neurome, new page:   https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[14:43] <leotr|2> i! I have python script that executes and controls another executables. When i add it to .xinitrc file and startx (startx is in my .profile) it hangs and ps -ax shows me that all processes are in T start. If i cleanup .xinitrc and startx and then run my python script manually from xterm it works fine. What can be a reason of that?
[14:44] <netlar> When I try to update, it just say "Waiting for headers", is that a ppa problem?
[14:46] <Neurome> Thank you cfhowlett
[14:47] <cfhowlett> Neurome, happy2help
[14:47] <netlar> Nevermind, looks like Steam was hanging it up
[14:47] <Neurome> Although, this computer /netbook is a Latitude D30 despite the 2gb rap upgrade i don't think it's good4gaming
[14:47] <Neurome> ram *
[14:48] <Neurome> cfhowlett, maybe you might now of updating the drivers for the processor (possible increasing performance? )
[14:49] <Neurome> might know of *
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Neurome, updating your bios is almost never a bad idea
[14:51] <cfhowlett> Neurome, specifics depend on your system.  I believe Dell makes this pretty much caveman easy ...
[14:51] <Neurome> cfhowlett, thats something i never tried doing, i've configured some dozen computers @ my school during an internship, did ram upgrade , removed video cards ,& reformatted countless computers but never did an upgrade on the bios
[14:52] <cfhowlett> Neurome, I'd say ... learn!  updates to fix lots of stuff
[14:54] <Neurome> cfhowlett, the bios driver/update for this specific netbook from the dell website is a EXE : \ idk how2 use that for updating
[14:54] <alket> Hi , im trying to "ppa-purge" something , but its stuck at "Calket@alket-gt:~$ sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers \n Updating packages lists"
[14:55] <dcajacob05_work> Hi, I just re-installed ubuntu 12.04.4 on a remote machine and I am getting apt-get update errors: Reading package lists... Done
[14:55] <dcajacob05_work> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[14:55] <EriC^^> !badsig | dcajacob05_work
[14:55] <cfhowlett> Neurome, check the website for install instructions and/or for a linux alternative.  of course, if you dual boot, no need.
[14:55] <dcajacob05_work> I tried removing /var/lib/apt/lists folder structure and recreating a clean one and running sudo-apt-get clean and update, but still same error
[14:56] <dcajacob05_work> Even tried forcing an fsck and several reboots
[14:56] <cfhowlett> dcajacob05_work, the problem is not on your end, it's the package key needs updating.  see the link from ubottu
[14:57] <Neurome> cfhowlett, no im using this box for learning, & some pleasure/fun
[14:57] <Neurome> its a dedicated for linux ubuntu
[14:57] <Neurome> i've 3 other computer with windows
[14:57] <dcajacob05_work> I also tried sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5, but same problem
[14:58] <EriC^^> dcajacob05_work: try a different server
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Neurome, fair enough
[14:58] <Neurome> 1 with linux mint, & and another box(the same netbook as im on now with 1gb ram but running ubuntu) with nothing installed
[14:58] <dcajacob05_work> This is a remote machine in Dubai, so that's prob a good idea
[14:59] <Neurome> cfhowlett, I've found the resource https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS
[15:00] <dcajacob05_work> Tried a different key server: pgp.mit.edu, same problem
[15:01] <EriC^^> i meant the server as in main > us main server
[15:01] <EriC^^> dcajacob05_work: if you don't have a gui, you'd have to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , and edit it
[15:01] <dcajacob05_work> you mean the apt server?
[15:01] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:02] <dcajacob05_work> gotcha
[15:03] <frib> does anyone here use fluxbox? can't seem to get icons to show up in folders etc.
[15:04] <amanthakur> frib, fluxbox is a light version windows manager
[15:04] <frib> amanthakur, ok but icons are possible
[15:04] <EriC^^> frib: did you try enlightenment?
[15:04] <frib> EriC^^, no what's that?
[15:04] <amanthakur> frib, i never seen icons in that...
[15:04] <EriC^^> it's a lightweight de
[15:04] <gavinguo> if there is anyone know how to disable built-in driver using kernel parameters?
[15:05] <frib> EriC^^, no ihad icons working before in fluxbox but i think it's because I previously had cinnamon installed before that .. but I don't want to install cinnamon just on a hunch that it might make icons appear in my folders
[15:05] <amanthakur> frib, it just runs the application and uses only right click menu i belive
[15:05] <frib> amanthakur, it's not like that
[15:05] <EriC^^> frib: what file manager are you using?
[15:05] <frib> EriC^^, thunar
[15:05] <EriC^^> try to reinstall thunar then
[15:06] <frib> EriC^^, ok i'll try
[15:06] <frib> nothing
[15:06] <frib> i.e. apt-get install --reinstall thunar
[15:06] <EriC^^> are you talking about icons in the file manager, or desktop?
[15:06] <frib> file manager
[15:07] <EriC^^> ok, did you use sudo
[15:07] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get..
[15:07] <frib> of course apt-get doesn't run without sudo
[15:07] <getseclectic_> i'm having some trouble getting networkmanager to use the right dns when i connect to a vpn, any idea how to debug it?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !dns
[15:07] <EriC^^> frib: so it did reinstall, but no icons
[15:07] <getseclectic_> i am not trying to set up a domain name service
[15:07] <frib> EriC^^, exactly
[15:08] <frib> EriC^^, there are awhole bunch of threads on google which all say basically the same thing which is to create this .gtkrc2.0 file or something but i tried that and it doesn't change anything
[15:09] <getseclectic_> setting up bind is easier than getting networkmanager to do what i want :(
[15:09] <frib> getseclectic_, have you tried dnsmasq?
[15:09] <getseclectic_> i think networkmanager uses dbus to configure dnsmasq doesn't it?
[15:10] <frib> no clue just thought it might give you an idea
[15:10] <getseclectic_> ubuntu uses dnsmasq as a local caching dns server by default
[15:10] <getseclectic_> which is why resolv.conf just has 127.0.01 in it
[15:10] <frib> oh ok
[15:11] <getseclectic_> but i think networkmanager uses dbus to configure where dnsmasq sends requests to
[15:11] <getseclectic_> and i have no idea how to debug that
[15:12] <dcajacob05_work> got the same problem (bad keys) with archive.ubuntu.com (instead of us.ubuntu.com)
[15:12] <getseclectic_> i put the dns server i want it to use into the networkmanager config for the vpn, but it doesn't work
[15:12] <frib> EriC^^, also exaile doesn't have icons not just thunar .. so what controls icons in programs ?
[15:12] <EriC^^> dcajacob05_work: ok, you used us.archive.ubuntu.com though right?
[15:12] <dcajacob05_work> EriC^^: that was the original setting
[15:12] <alive4ever> getseclectic_: You may find which configuration file dnsmasq use by issuing 'ps aux | grep dnsmasq'
[15:14] <getseclectic_> there are multiple dnsmasq processes, one conf file is empty, the other says it is autogenerated and not to edit it
[15:15] <dcajacob05_work> EriC^^: this is a pristine install, btw only ssh and vim packages added
[15:16] <getseclectic_> it says something about using virsh to edit the configuration but i'm kinda lost
[15:17] <_0xff> fff
[15:17] <frib> figured it out .. just had to add gnome-settings-manager & to fluxbox startup to get icons in folders
[15:19] <EriC^^> dcajacob05_work: when you removed /lists did you remove /lists/partial too ?
[15:20] <dcajacob05_work> EriC^^: yes, rm -r and or mv lists
[15:24] <AlexPortable> Where does ubuntu-tweak stores the backgrounds from love hd wallpapers?
[15:25] <AlexPortable> I'm running it as sudo
[15:31] <X^> Is it possible to install linux on an external hard drive, such as a USB?
[15:31] <EriC^^> X^: yes
[15:31] <Footy> no linux wll only install on HDDs with odd number of bits
[15:32] <Footy> usb hdds have even numbers of bits
[15:32] <X^> EriC^^: how? I can't find the option to install on it
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> Footy  try to be helpful and not confuse
[15:32] <Footy> MonkeyDust sorry
[15:32]  * X^ is now confused
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | Footy,
[15:32] <cfhowlett> X^, yes you can install to a USB
[15:32] <X^> How?
[15:33] <X^> Ok, so I boot, and choose "Install Ubuntu"
[15:33] <EriC^^> X^: i've never looked into it, but you could install as any other installation i guess, partition the usb hdd and select the "/" to install
[15:33] <EriC^^> ( i guess, don't quote me on it )
[15:34] <k1l_> yes, load the live system and choose the usb hdd as target
[15:34] <EriC^^> X^: also where it says "where to install the boot loader" choose the usb
[15:35] <k1l_> yes, but then you need to make sure the system boots from usb first to get to boot into that ubuntu
[15:35] <EriC^^> yeah X^ i was assuming you want a standalone installation on the usb
[15:35] <EriC^^> ( which you can use on other pc's )
[15:36] <AlexPortable> Where does ubuntu-tweak stores the backgrounds from love hd wallpapers? I'm running it as sudo
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  ubuntu-tweak is 3rd party, ask the maintainer https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak-website
[15:37] <X^> So what now? https://i.imgur.com/9ltFxpD.jpg
[15:38] <X^> "Something else"?
[15:38] <EriC^^> X^: yes
[15:38] <zorgborg> hi all, how much space is recommended for the root partition when manually partitioning free space during installing?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> zorgborg, plain vanilla ubuntu runs about 7 GB
[15:39] <X^> So now I choose the USB for both the install and the bootloader?
[15:40] <EriC^^> zorgborg: ^^^ so you'll want a bit more like 10-14gb, for /var and /usr stuff
[15:40] <zorgborg> cfhowlett: so 20 GB is more than enough?
[15:40] <X^> "No root filesystem defined"
[15:40] <cfhowlett> zorgborg, I'd say so ... remember that 7 GB is without data included ...
[15:40] <zorgborg> I'll probably be installing a fair bit in /usr/bin yeah
[15:41] <X^> "Please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[15:41] <X^> So what do I do now?
[15:41] <zorgborg> cfhowlett: without what data?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> X^  define a root filesystem
[15:41] <EriC^^> X^: do you see your usb?
[15:41] <cfhowlett> zorgborg, YOUR data ... files, docs, vids ...
[15:41] <X^> Yeah, I chose the USB for both the install and the bootloader
[15:42] <EriC^^> X^: you have to partition it
[15:42] <X^> Although I'm running the install from te USB I'm
[15:42] <EriC^^> lol, what?
[15:42] <X^> I'm running the install from the USB I want to install it on
[15:42] <EriC^^> lol
[15:42] <X^> Does that matter?
[15:42]  * EriC^^ rofls
[15:42] <zorgborg> cfhowlett: ah ofc, but what if I'm creating a 'separate' home partition?
[15:43] <X^> Clearly, yes
[15:43] <X^> Lol
[15:43] <EriC^^> :D
[15:43] <cfhowlett> zorgborg, I've got ubuntustudio + restricted extras = 11 GB + 4 GB for swap. the rest is my /home
[15:48] <karab44> hello
[15:48] <zorgborg> cfhowlett: ok, I'll probs be fine then I guess, annoying that windows 8 won't shrink itself below 230ish GB though (half my drive!)
[15:48] <karab44> I don't need ctrl+shift+up,dwn,left,right arrows to switch between workspaces... these are terrible shortcuts
[15:49] <karab44> Most of programs uses these shortcuts
[15:49] <karab44> but ubuntu prevents from doing it
[15:49] <karab44> I always disable shortcuts in settings/keyboard/shortcuts but they always come back! Help
[15:53] <X^> EriC^^: and I pick the USB for both install and bootloader?
[15:54] <X^> Ugh
[15:54] <X^> It still says no root filesystem
[15:54] <X^> What do I do?
[15:55] <X^> Should I make a "New Partition Table"?
[15:55] <k1l_> X^: make sure the usb hdd is fully powerd up when you try to boot from it
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> X^  from the drop down menu, select / and then specify a mount point (/dev/sda...)
[15:56] <X^> There is no /
[15:56] <Trudko> guys anybody have an idea why this happened to my screen (ubuntu 14.04 Radeon 7850 , dual monitor) http://oi61.tinypic.com/334n4ma.jpg
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> X^  you have to click and define it
[15:56] <Trudko> it kind of fix its self and I have no idea what triggered it
[15:58] <X^> MonkeyDust: https://i.imgur.com/2F6Lxb2.jpg
[15:58] <EriC^^> X^: if there's no "free space", you have to make a new partition table, then click on freespace > and partition it
[15:58] <X^> Ah
[15:59] <X^> Partition it with what options?
[15:59] <Delta706> are there quality problems with HDA-Intel sound card?
[15:59] <X^> Primary or Logical?
[15:59] <X^> Or just leave as defaults EriC^^ ?
[16:00] <anth0ny> At my work, we're setting up a bunch of machines (now and in the future) with Ubuntu Server (probably) and possibly Puppet to configure the machines.  Can anyone recommend a way to automate wiping the machines when they're conntected to the network and then installing our preferred OS configuration and with preferred applications?  I know there is some Ubuntu network installer, but haven't really used it...
[16:00] <X^> "Use as" what?
[16:01] <X^> EriC^^: what options do I set for the partition?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> X^  minute 24'25" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_trEVXBgLg
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> X^  minute 2'25" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_trEVXBgLg
[16:02] <musher> what do i have to write in xorg.conf for SiS?
[16:03] <dcajacob05_work> EriC^^: I just commented out backports for now, but let me know if you have any other ideas
[16:04] <EriC^^> dcajacob05_work: ok
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> X^  so click on a partition you want to use, then click Change (Modify)
[16:07] <X^> MonkeyDust: yep, got it, thanks
[16:08] <X^> Yay installing
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> X^  partitioning is the hardest part when you learn linux
[16:08] <X^> MonkeyDust: it seems so :P
[16:08] <psilo2> In 14.04 Desktop, I can't seem to get network-manager to use the same default ethernet connection.  If I unplug the cable and plug it back in, it cycles to the next connection and uses that.  Is there *anything* I can do to make it default to the most recent connection?
[16:09] <DrMax_> how do I restart gnome's keyboard switcher applet?
[16:09] <DrMax_> it crashes and keeps returning my windows to one of the locale (obviously, the one I do not want)
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> DrMax_  system settings > keyboard layout > layouts ... click on the layout of your choice en then click the up arrow, until it's on top of the list
[16:12] <DrMax_> it already is
[16:13] <piyush1911> Hi, anyone has any experience in using a kickstart to install a fakeRAID(0) ubuntu 12.04 system, I am having lot of issues in being able to partition and then install the grub, please I need a little help.
[16:13] <DrMax_> even selecting from the menu doesn't switch keyboards
[16:13] <DrMax_> the toggle short cuts still does, however
[16:13] <DrMax_> but if the window looses focus, it reverts to the other keyboard
[16:16] <kuldud> hi
[16:16] <kuldud> how do i boot from cd using hp compaq nc4200
[16:18] <friv> I installed tuxonice and now the pm-hibernate command only works 1 time.  how can I get it to work again?
[16:18]  * alive4ever I'm off.
[16:18] <DrMax_> kuldud : F2 at boot for boot menu?
[16:19] <kuldud> its not working
[16:20] <eeee> kuldud: try esc
[16:20] <DrMax_> kuldud : it's usually one of F1, F2, F10 or even ESC
[16:20] <kuldud> f10 takes me to motherboard
[16:20] <DrMax_> if F1 brings you to BIOS, then navigate to boot order
[16:20] <DrMax_> it should be there somewhere
[16:20] <DrMax_> (then again, I never had this specific model, so...)
[16:20] <kuldud> ok
[16:20] <kuldud> hp compaq nc4200
[16:21] <Delta706> on some machines, it says press X to go to bios
[16:21] <kuldud> ok then what
[16:21] <kuldud> im in the bios
[16:22] <friv> why when I run pm-hibernate nothing happens at all?
[16:22] <DrMax_> storage -> boot rive ->
[16:22] <DrMax_> then select what you want
[16:23] <DrMax_> boot drive*
[16:23] <kuldud> i dont find storage
[16:24] <musher> how do i kill xserver?
[16:24] <musher> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[16:24] <eeee> musher: pkill X
[16:24] <friv> is it easy to unencrypt home folder?
[16:24] <igurd> define easy
[16:25] <friv> igurd, takes less than 5 minutes
[16:25] <DrMax_> maybe a tools menu ?
[16:25] <DrMax_> http://www.manualowl.com/m/Compaq/nc4200/Manual/111501
[16:25] <DrMax_> that's your computer's user manual
[16:25] <DrMax_> p.33 "advanced menu"
[16:25] <igurd> friv: as in by someone who doesn't know the password, or when you get bored of encryption? :V
[16:26] <friv> igurd, i want to go back to not having an encrypted home folder
[16:26] <kuldud> ok thx ill try
[16:26] <friv> ever again
[16:26] <DrMax_> kuldud : download it for further reference
[16:26] <DrMax_> the manual
[16:27] <DrMax_> bbl; gotta eat something
[16:28] <kuldud> ok
[16:29] <musher> @eeee was kicked out of terminal; went back in and tried sudo X -configure; result was fatal server error. Server is already active for display 0
[16:30] <kuldud> i went to advanced annd then boot options and changed under muiltiboot - USB CD-ROM- FIRST
[16:30] <kuldud> boot order^
[16:30] <Peanut> Hi, I have a machine with 36 disks. Sometimes when I boot, my bootdrive is sda - sometimes, it is sdal or sdak or whatever. What is a stable interface that I can use that if a drive fails, I can go from the device name all the way back to the controller and slot the drive is in?
[16:31] <igurd> Peanut: /dev/disk/by-uuid
[16:31] <bazhang> !blkid | Peanut
[16:31] <Peanut> I'm already using blkid but it is of no help once the drive has failed.
[16:32] <eeee> musher: what do you mean went back in?
[16:33] <musher> @eeee strg+alt+f2
[16:33] <musher> @eeee opened terminal again
[16:33] <Peanut> How would I find the physical slot of a drive that has failed, so I no longer have access to the blkid stored in the filesystems or partition table? How do I at least find out what controller it is on?
[16:33] <musher> was kicked after pkill X
[16:34] <eeee> musher: ah, what are you on ? unity?
[16:35] <musher> @eeee yes
[16:35] <eeee> musher: sudo service lightdm stop
[16:36] <musher> @eeee okay. terminal says "lightdm stop/waiting" now
[16:36] <kuldud> i changed boot order for cd-rom first but it still starts windows 7 from harddrive?
[16:37] <Trudko> guys anybody have an idea why this happened to my screen (ubuntu 14.04 Radeon 7850 , dual monitor) http://oi61.tinypic.com/334n4ma.jpg
[16:37] <eeee> musher: ok
[16:37] <eeee> musher: you're good to go
[16:40] <kuldud> what the f
[16:40] <darrenr> Hello!
[16:40] <frib> i deleted the .ecryptfs file in my home folder is that going to have an impact on something?
[16:40] <darrenr> ...
[16:42] <LinuxGuruz> balder Thanks for that Linus like that was awesome.
[16:42] <darrenr> Is it possible for me to network boot my laptop to install ubuntu from a ubuntu 14.04 laptop?
[16:42] <Peanut> darrenr: if your laptop supports PXE booting, then yes, and it's quite easy.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> darrenr  sounds like a pxe installation
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Peanut  was faster
[16:43] <darrenr> Yeah we do them at my work, but htats in the windows world and i dont know how to set up, just how to use it
[16:43] <LinuxGuruz> wrong channel but this is that link https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.os.minix/dlNtH7RRrGA/SwRavCzVE7gJ
[16:43] <Peanut> darrenr: However, you might be better of burning the small netbootmini.iso to a USB stick, which is just enough to boot off, and then have the laptop use the network to pull in the OS.
[16:43] <darrenr> how do i check if the laptop supports PXE... check in bios?
[16:43] <LinuxGuruz> 25 years ago today linux was announced
[16:43] <darrenr> I have no USB stick at the moment
[16:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic LinuxGuruz
[16:44] <Peanut> darrenr: Yes, go in the bios, and check if you have an option to 'enable boot rom' for your Ethernet device, is usually under PCI/PCI-E in your bios.
[16:44] <darrenr> YEah okay ill take a look at that now
[16:44] <darrenr> thanks
[16:44] <kuldud> i used windows image burner to burn ubuntu onto a disk.... and it shows its empty when i connect it to the computer i want to install ubuntu on
[16:44] <darrenr> i must admit. ubuntu has really impressed me... i used it a few years ago but now ive come back its amazing
[16:45] <darrenr> kuldud did you finalies the burn?
[16:45] <kuldud> finalies?
[16:45] <jhutchins> kuldud: Did windows finalize the disk?
[16:45] <darrenr> ^^ that
[16:45] <kuldud> um
[16:46] <jhutchins> kuldud: You also need to make sure it's burning from an image file, not just writing the file to disk.
[16:46] <fancesca> ciao
[16:46] <kuldud> ok
[16:46] <kuldud> i dont see any finalize thing
[16:46] <kuldud> there is a verify option which is enabled
[16:47] <fancesca> ciao
[16:48] <kuldud> can any computer boot from usb?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> kuldud  if the bios allows it
[16:48] <jhutchins> kuldud: Newer ones can, I would say pre-2007 might be iffy.
[16:49] <jhutchins> kuldud: If you don't have the option you can look for a BIOS update.
[16:49] <kuldud> well mine is hp compaq nc4200 any way for you guys to check?
[16:49] <jhutchins> kuldud: Easier for you to.  Check the options in the BIOS or boot menu.
[16:49] <kuldud> ok
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> kuldud  go into the bios settings (f10 or so during boot) and look for the boot order
[16:49] <IanGriffiths> I've just installed Ubuntu (clean install) and it won't accept my password. Is there any way of hacking it without reinstalling?
[16:49] <kuldud> ok i found boot order
[16:50] <kuldud> (notebook hard drive - second) (USB floppy) Third)
[16:51] <wafflejock> kuldud: do you have the flash drive plugged in right now?
[16:51] <kuldud> USB  superdisk fourth USB CD-ROM  first USB HARDDRISK fifth NOTEBOOK Ethernet sixth
[16:51] <sudormrf> hey guys, how is support for QHD+ screens coming along in ubuntu?
[16:51] <kuldud> no i have cd-rom
[16:51] <darrenr> ah crap my minibook broke its screen
[16:51] <kuldud> it seems to not be booting it tho
[16:51] <darrenr> well i probably broke it
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> IanGriffiths: Head for recovery, run "dpkg (Repair broken packages)", accept mounting read/write, let dpkg complete, select "root (Drop to root shell prompt)", and run [ passwd $USERNAME ], where $USERNAME is your user name. Then reboot.
[16:51] <kuldud> i checked what was in the cd that i burned it shows a bunch of files which is correct
[16:52] <piyush1911> Hi, anyone has any experience in using a kickstart to install a fakeRAID(0) ubuntu 12.04 system, I am having lot of issues in being able to partition and then install the grub, please I need a little help.
[16:52] <IanGriffiths> SonikkuAmerica: Do I need to boot from a livedisk to enter recovery?
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> No. From GRUB select "Advanced options for Ubuntu", then "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.XX.X-X-generic (recovery mode)"
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> (X represents arbitrary kernel version)
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> IanGriffiths: ^
[16:53] <wafflejock> kuldud: best bet for guaranteeing everything works is to md5sum the download to be sure it matches the md5 sum supplied online for that ISO, then have your burning software do a verification pass, lots of BIOSes allow you to choose a boot device at boot time using another shortcut too (one of the Function(F) keys typically)
[16:53] <post2137> kickstart | piyush1911
[16:53] <kuldud> ok
[16:53] <post2137> !kickstart | piyush1911
[16:54] <kuldud> how do i do it wafflejock
[16:55] <IanGriffiths> SonikkuAmerica: It couldnt download any packages. It didnt give me a chance to connect to a wifi network
[16:59] <sudormrf> hey guys, is QHD+ working on 14.04 or no?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> sudormrf  what's qhd?
[17:00] <sudormrf> MonkeyDust, very high resolution screens.  3200x1800
[17:03] <sudormrf> nobody? :D
[17:03] <sudormrf> last I read the support wasn't there yet
[17:03] <sudormrf> but that was a while ago
[17:03] <sudormrf> and all the threads I am finding are from late 2013
[17:03] <Beldar> sudormrf, Have some patience.
[17:04] <sudormrf> Beldar, yes mr. conehead :D
[17:04] <Beldar> we mean you no harm. ;)
[17:04] <sudormrf> consume mass quantities
[17:05] <Beldar> yes, always.
[17:06] <zaltekk> I'm no longer able to access NetworkManager unless I run access utilities as root. I get the following error output: http://codepad.org/i3kWw9GX
[17:07] <zaltekk> it seems like a dbus permissions issue, but they seem to be configured to the defaults in /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager, with almost everything set to <allow_access>yes</allow_access>
[17:07] <zaltekk> any ideas what to look at next?
[17:19] <prainworker> can some help me for a sek with my camera
[17:19] <expunge> ONE
[17:19] <expunge> time expired =)
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> zaltekk: Alt+F2, type "nm-applet"
[17:21] <zaltekk> SonikkuAmerica: uh...
[17:21] <zaltekk> it doesn't connect to NetworkManager
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> zaltekk: Oops. And Ouch.
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> zaltekk: This is 14.04?
[17:21] <zaltekk> 12.04
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Hmm...
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> zaltekk: Updated?
[17:21] <zaltekk> with the 14.04 kernel("hwe"
[17:21] <zaltekk> yes
[17:23] <prainworker> when connecting my olympus cam ubuntu gets really slow up  to allmost free ! are there any known issues with big sd cards
[17:23] <prainworker> freeze
[17:23] <prainworker> sorry
[17:25] <kuldud> hi
[17:25] <kuldud> i burned ubunto desktop iso file to a cd and im trying to boot it on the old computer
[17:25] <kuldud> when i put a windows 7 cd it boots through windows 7 when i put ubuntu cd it doesnt
[17:25] <SonikkuAmerica> kuldud: Did you use Brasero? K3b? Xfburn? Some Windows program?
[17:26] <kuldud> windows program
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> kuldud: Or did you just copy the ISO file to the DVD?
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> kuldud: Which one?
[17:26] <kuldud> windows image burner
[17:27] <kuldud> do you have a solution?
[17:28] <th3rt> Can anyone tell me the best way to get a diff of two repos that are not in my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> kuldud: I've had problems with Windows Disc Image Burner in the past, but is there a one-time boot menu you can access when your computer starts up?
[17:30] <musher> @kuldud try to change boot order
[17:30] <expunge> kuldud: is it a DVD or a CD?
[17:30] <kuldud> not really i just press f12
[17:30] <kuldud> maxell dvd+r
[17:31] <lu_> Is anyone here familiar with the basics of Upstart?
[17:31] <kuldud> so i believe its a dvd
[17:33] <musher> @kuldud if u got a usb stick, burn ur image with lili usb creator and change boot order in bios
[17:33] <musher> @kuldud never had problems with that way
[17:33] <kuldud> musher my computer is old - hp compaq nc4200
[17:34] <kuldud> i can try tho
[17:35] <ianorlin> there is plop boot manager if you can only boot off cd and need to boot from usb
[17:35] <Krando> How can I use Ubuntu?
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | Krando
[17:36] <Krando> !ops
[17:37] <DJones> Krando: Don't do that
[17:37] <k1l_> Krando: what is going on?
[17:37] <k1l_> *sigh*
[17:37] <genii> Meh
[17:37] <Krando> How can I install Ubuntu 13.04?
[17:37] <lu_> Does anyone here know the basics of Upstart?
[17:37] <Krando> !ops how to install Ubuntu 13.04
[17:37] <Krando> !ops how
[17:38] <Krando> !ops
[17:38] <Krando> !ops
[17:38] <dhruvasagar> Krando: just download it and install
[17:38] <yano> kraiskil: please stop that
[17:38] <ianorlin> 13.04 is not supported anymore Krando but 14.04 is and same with 12.04
[17:38] <dhruvasagar> ianorlin: I though .04 versions are supported for ~5yeas
[17:38] <dhruvasagar> ianorlin: thought*
[17:38] <iceroot_> dhruvasagar: not all
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> dhruvasagar: Only $EVEN_NUMBER.04 versions are LTS.
[17:39] <iceroot_> dhruvasagar: 6.06, 8.04, 10.04, 12.04 14.04 were lts releases
[17:39] <dhruvasagar> SonikkuAmerica: oO, didn't know that, thanks :)
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !16.04
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> So 16.04 would be the next LTS.
[17:40] <sarhna> Anyone around to help me with removing ubuntu and installing WinXP?
[17:40] <igurd> xp installer should handle removing ubuntu
[17:40] <Exagone313> sarhna: else boot to live cd, open gparted, remove all partitions
[17:40] <sarhna> xp installer crashes at "setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration ubuntu"
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> sarhna: Also see ##windows
[17:42] <k1l_> sarhna: winxp is not supported anymore. and you can just remove the ubuntu partitions and install a windows-bootloader. its easy as that, but please see the windows support about the winxp issues
[17:42] <sarhna> if i went into ctrl alt t and did a sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda will that give me a response or just go straight into zeroing the drive?
[17:43] <k1l_> sarhna: it will just start
[17:43] <expunge> sarhna: it won't give you a prompt back until it's done
[17:43] <sarhna> ok cool
[17:43] <sarhna> so canceling the window was a bad idea?
[17:43] <expunge> sarhna: I suggest using bs=1024M or something
[17:43] <expunge> something less than your RAM
[17:43] <expunge> sarhna: how do you mean?
[17:44] <expunge> if you cancelled it before you got a prompt back, it didn't finish
[17:44] <sarhna> i mean i ran cmd prompt or whatever you call in in ubuntu, started the zero and then since i didnt think it was working, closed the cmd prompt.
[17:44] <expunge> there are some other dd implementations that give progress output, or you can do something like while(true); do kill -USR1 $(pgrep dd); sleep 30s; done
[17:44] <expunge> sarhna: if you cancelled it before you got a prompt back, it didn't finish
[17:45] <expunge> sarhna: giving this drive to someone?
[17:45] <sarhna> ok one more question about gparted. when i go tot device> create partition table it prompts with a "select new partition type" option.  which one do I choose?
[17:46] <sarhna> trying to install it for wow for my wife.
[17:46] <sarhna> ok one more question about gparted. when i go tot device> create partition table it prompts with a "select new partition type" option.  which one do I choose?  msdos?
[17:47] <expunge> sarhna: trying to install what now?
[17:47] <sarhna> xp
[17:47] <expunge> sarhna: you don't need to wipe it with zeros
[17:47] <sarhna> that was a last resort if i couldnt get it to work.
[17:47] <expunge> the only reason to wipe an entire drive with zeros is if you are giving a drive that had sensitive data on it to a stranger
[17:48] <expunge> sarhna: oh, well you can just wipe the beginning, sometimes that is indeed useful
[17:48] <expunge> sgdisk -Z will wipe the partitions
[17:48] <expunge> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo# bs=10M count=100 will wipe just the beginning
[17:48] <mrvadon> hello everyone
[17:49] <expunge> hi mrvadon
[17:49] <sarhna> but in gparted, when i create a partition table, it tells me it will erase all data on disk and asks to select a new partition type
[17:49] <sarhna> do i select msdos for that?
[17:50] <sudormrf> any word on the QHD+ question?
[17:50] <sudormrf> I have been AFK
[17:50] <expunge> sudormrf: what question?
[17:50] <expunge> sarhna: you don't need to create a partition for Windows' installer
[17:50] <expunge> empty space is enough
[17:51] <sudormrf> expunge, last I read about QHD+ screens was that they weren't fully supported in linux.  This was a while ago and all the threads I am finding are from late 2013.  I am wondering if, ubuntu for example, now supports them.
[17:51] <sarhna> i didnt think so either, but the xp install disk hangs at the start, and everyone has told me it has to do with an existing ubuntu install
[17:52] <expunge> sudormrf: I think things like that are less an issue of "support" and more an issue of configuration expectations
[17:52] <expunge> sudormrf: for example when the first retina macs came out, it wasn't configured quite right, but did not take like... development of whole new software systems to support it, just slight configuration alterations
[17:53] <sudormrf> expunge, ah.  configuration alterations on whose part?
[17:53] <expunge> graphics driver, X, your own
[17:53] <trism> sudormrf: if you search instead for high dpi instead of qhd there are quite a few articles about 14.04 support for it (plus a spec for 14.04 on the ubuntu wiki), although the only specific feature I found mentioned was System Settings/Display/Scale for Menu and Title Bars
[17:54] <sudormrf> trism, will check
[17:54] <lu_> DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO USE UPSTART, YES i'M YELLING!!!!!
[17:54] <sudormrf> expunge, doesn't seem to be a driver thing, at least in my eyes.  my own?  not sure what that means
[17:54] <bazhang> !upstart > lu_
[17:54] <expunge> sudormrf: I just got done saying it isn't a driver thing...
[17:55] <lu_> bazhang, that is not helpfull because ubuntu does things different
[17:55] <sudormrf> expunge, sorry, confused as when I asked about the alterations you mentioned graphics driver
[17:55] <expunge> configuration of
[17:55] <bazhang> lu_ then ask a detailed question.
[17:56] <sudormrf> expunge, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/ubuntu-14-04-high-resolution-retina-screen
[17:56] <sudormrf> looks like it is still a WiP
[17:56] <lu_> I'm trying to test a simple script with initctl emit testscript
[17:56] <lu_> It's not working.
[17:56] <sudormrf> as of Feb, anyhow
[17:57] <expunge> sudormrf: I don't see how it can be, since people are already using it...
[17:57] <sudormrf> expunge, they are using it but certain pieces are not supporting the native resolution of their screen and that is why they have to use scaling.
[17:57] <sudormrf> so it works
[18:01] <lu_> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/FKvCp4Zs
[18:02] <bazhang> address the channel please lu_
[18:02] <lu_> bazhang, That is my step by step process, I'm just trying to make a dir to test upstart
[18:02] <lu_> bazhang, How do I address the channel?
[18:02] <bazhang> by typing in it
[18:03] <lu_> channel, http://pastebin.com/FKvCp4Zs
[18:03] <lu_> channel: need some help with making a directory: http://pastebin.com/FKvCp4Zs
[18:04] <lu_> bazhang, is that addressing the channel?
[18:04] <treats_> I think I disabled swap space on a VM hosting ubuntu when I installed it.  Will this be a problem going forward?  I see a message about swap space when I startup and assume I am loosing a lot of perf because of this.  Any thoughtS?
[18:04] <lasers> treats_: You can turn it on (or create a swap file).
[18:05] <lasers> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:05] <lu_> Does anyone here know ANYTHING about Upstart?
[18:05] <lu_> I'm not interested in the useless links at upstart, they do not address my simple question.
[18:06] <sarhna> could anyone please tell me when im deleting running gparted and need to reformat, which type i need to select to wipe and install XP?
[18:07] <juan__> hello?
[18:07] <MagicSpud> does anybody know whether this bug is fixed or not? http://askubuntu.com/questions/513157/unresolvable-problem-error-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to-14-04
[18:07] <lu_> sarhna, reformat with a ntfs
[18:07] <sarhna> thats not an option in gparted
[18:08] <MagicSpud> well not quite a bug but lack of info
[18:08] <jon-work> does gvfs-smb exist in 14.04? I can't find the package and I can't seem to mount samba shares anymore
[18:08] <lu_> sarhna, try vfat
[18:08] <MagicSpud> it doesn't upgrade but telling no reason
[18:08] <lu_> sarhna, fat will be recoginized
[18:08] <sarhna> im not sure what you mean? im a complete newb to ubuntu
[18:08] <juan__> Hi. I'm having some problems trying to install ubuntu for the first time. I would be very thankful if someone could give me a hand with that.
[18:09] <lu_> sarhna, formatting is a little more than a beginners thing.  Be carefull with it.
[18:09] <malkauns_> juan__: just ask your specific question
[18:09] <juan__> i'm using a live DVD but can't boot
[18:09] <sarhna> i dont care about any data, just need to install XP, and remove ubuntu
[18:10] <lasers> sarhna: Just delete the whole thing. The WindowsXP should find the uninitialized drive and walks you through it. WindowsXP is also outdated, no?
[18:10] <MagicSpud> 32 or 64 bits¿
[18:10] <MagicSpud> juan__
[18:10] <sarhna> lu, is this like a pm?
[18:10] <sarhna> xp is dated but the only option i have at this time
[18:10] <malkauns_> juan__: can't boot the DVD or cant boot after installing
[18:10] <sarhna> it hangs at "setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration"
[18:10] <juan__> me? x64. I can open the advance booting menu with boot parameters
[18:10] <sarhna> would w7 disc just work better?
[18:11] <juan__> but after clicking INSTALL UBUNTU i get a blank screen with a tilting underscore
[18:11] <lasers> sarhna: Try it and see w/ W7.
[18:11] <juan__> and nothing else after that, just the underscore
[18:11] <sarhna> ok, do box stores still sell 7? or do i need to order online?
[18:11] <MagicSpud> juan__ which version of ubuntu and what computer?
[18:12] <lu_> sarhna, http://askubuntu.com/questions/145812/how-to-make-a-partition-windows-can-read
[18:12] <juan__> the latest ubuntu, just downloaded it form the official website
[18:12] <sarhna> lu_, thanks! i will give that a shot
[18:13] <lu_> sarhna, step carefully!!
[18:13] <MagicSpud> juan__ did you burn the ubuntu iso?
[18:13] <juan__> yes
[18:13] <juan__> verified the disc too
[18:13] <juan__> and the checksum
[18:13] <sarhna> i dont care if the drive is cleared. any other warnings other than that?
[18:13] <lu_> sarhna, unplug every other drive
[18:14] <sarhna> no other drives other than CDROM
[18:14] <lu_> sarhna, what was on the internal drive before?
[18:14] <sarhna> ubuntu
[18:14] <sarhna> before that it was zero'd
[18:14] <juan__> http://puu.sh/b7xRC/0416c10d51.png here are my specs
[18:15] <lu_> sarhna, you probably want to erase the entire drive not just partitions.
[18:15] <cpined>  greetings tech friends.  I have ubuntu as a guest OS.  How can I set things up such that when I browse the internet on the host it goes through the guest?
[18:15] <sarhna> zero it again? or is there better way?  i know sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sda
[18:16] <lu_> sarhna, you don't have to do that unless you are trying to secure it
[18:16] <lu_> but sdmem would be better for that
[18:16] <sarhna> whats the faster way then?
[18:16] <sarhna> just type that into the cmd prompt?
[18:17] <lu_> sarhna, the fast way is to create a partition tables
[18:17] <sarhna> with cparted?
[18:17] <sarhna> err gparted?
[18:17] <jak3000> i want unzip all .gz files but not work mi command: find /var/www/html/calidad/ -name *.gz -exec gunzip -d {} \;      seee please:   http://pastie.org/9501821
[18:17] <MagicSpud> juan__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122059
[18:17] <lu_> sarhna, create a new one, a msdos one
[18:18] <lu_> sarhna, yes with gparted
[18:18] <MagicSpud> juan__ there they suggest it was the bios settings
[18:18] <sarhna> ok gparted then device > created partition table, then msdos> apply ??
[18:19] <juan__> I was thinking about that but I didn't know how to set the BIOS
[18:19] <lu_> sarhna, yes
[18:19] <juan__> I'll read the thread and get back to you later
[18:19] <MagicSpud> juan__ you need to disable quickboot/fastboot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:19] <sarhna> ok ill give that a try, thank you so much for the help
[18:19] <juan__> thank you very much for your help
[18:19] <juan__> I'll see to that. Thanks to all
[18:19] <MagicSpud> juan__ youre welcome
[18:19] <frojnd> Hi there. Any advanced ubuntuoeres here? I've set up wifi hotspot with kde-nm-connection-editor but I don't know where is the file that tells how many users is connected to the wifi hotstpot. Also I'd like to block some pages and I don't know how all this works since it's gui app? Any help appreciated
[18:19] <sarhna> also how do i do that thing where it pings the person im trying to talk to and show the name in orange?
[18:19] <lu_> sarhna, that will remove all your partions for that drive.  Then create an ntfs partion.  That will help xp understand how to install.
[18:19] <jak3000> sarhna any advice?
[18:20] <lu_> Upstarts sucks!!!!
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> lu_  mind your language, please
[18:21] <lu_> MonkeyDust, you mean that I think Upstart sucks Dick!!!???
[18:21] <sarhna> ok lu, i rebooted after your advice, and windows install disk gets to "setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration" and then it hangs and reboots PC
[18:21] <sarhna> i hit f1 to continue and the cycle repeats
[18:22] <genii> sarhna: I had to temporarily remove them for bad language. They may or may not return.
[18:22] <sarhna> no!
[18:22] <MagicSpud>  does anybody know whether this lack of info when the upgrade stops is fixed or not? http://askubuntu.com/questions/513157/unresolvable-problem-error-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to-14-04
[18:22] <sarhna> genii, does that mean you will take over for him?
[18:23] <lou_> MonkeyDust, hey MonkeyButt!!
[18:23] <sarhna> lou dont get kicked out! i need you're help
[18:23] <lou_> I'm having fun!! Upstart sucks!!!
[18:23] <sarhna> my XP install still doesnt recognize the partition
[18:23] <lou_> sudo gksudo -u lou xchat&
[18:24] <genii> lou_: Be civil to other users and watch the profanity.
[18:25] <lou_> sarhna, good luck.
[18:25] <frib> HI, i tried to install tuxonice to try and fix hibernate but it didn't work and it changed my kernel to something else .. but i don't know how to get it back to the original, can anyone help? thx
[18:26] <genii> sarhna: As I understand, you are just trying to wipe everything and install some Windopws version again?
[18:27] <sarhna> yeah trying to remove ubuntu and install XP, but it hangs at "setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration"
[18:27] <genii> sarhna: This is on the XP install CD?
[18:27] <sarhna> yeah
[18:28] <genii> sarhna: So this is more then a Windows installation question rather than an Ubuntu removal question.
[18:29] <genii> sarhna: The pre-exisiting filesystem should not matter at all, if it does not recognize it then will usually assume there isn't one and just format ( default Windows install behaviour)
[18:29] <genii> sarhna: The "inspecting computer's hardware configuration" stage can be an extremely long time
[18:30] <sarhna> genii, its not taking very long at all, about 10 seconds and then it hangs and immediately reboots the entire system
[18:31] <arat> hi
[18:31] <arat> who can help?
[18:31] <expunge> arat: various people
[18:32] <genii> sarhna: This seems to be some other issue besides partition/filesystem being other than something Windows likes/dislikes. I would seek help in the ##windows channel right now because it is the Windows installer you are experiencing problems with
[18:32] <sarhna> yeah, i tried, they are not very helpful over there in ##windows.
[18:33] <geirha> To be fair, XP is ancient
[18:33] <sarhna> ill take it over vista and 8 any day.
[18:33] <aethersis> hello, is it possible to use some kind of noise cancellation for ubuntu?
[18:33] <frib> what can I do about this error? Package linux-image-3.13.0-33-generic is not configured yet.
[18:35] <ooel> Hello Everyone
[18:35] <ooel> I have a huge issue with the latest version of apache
[18:35] <ooel> http://pastebin.com/vup3S093
[18:35] <ooel> it seems like the php do not work anymore
[18:36] <ooel> PHP 5.5.9-1ubuntu4.3 (cli) (built: Jul  7 2014 16:36:58)
[18:36] <ooel> any ideas why ?
[18:38] <AlexPortable> How many GB should I reserve for swap and grub?
[18:38] <AlexPortable> when installing
[18:39] <genii> sarhna: If you want the hd to seem to the installer to be fresh without partition or filesystems of any kind, you can boot to an *buntu livecd and wipe the MBR  in terminal with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1    (might need sudo but livecd should require no password for it)   ... then try the XP install again.
[18:39] <theadmin> AlexPortable: Swap - around 4GB is more than enough, not sure what you mean by grub.
[18:39] <theadmin> AlexPortable: A separate /boot is pointless
[18:39] <Wizard> AlexPortable: Swap - depends on RAM. /boot.. depends on RAID/FS.
[18:40] <sarhna> @genii, thank you so much i will try that
[18:40] <AlexPortable> 2 gb ram, but i will be extending it
[18:40] <AlexPortable> FS is dual boot windows/ubuntu
[18:40] <sarhna> i tried that command ending at dev/sda and it said there was no dev/sda
[18:40] <arat> i made a command to extract passwod from webpage, so i want to have a script which loads firewall fules 1, connects to that web page and extracts and writes the password to vpn-auth.file then loads firewall rules 2 and then establishes openvpn connection using that vpn-auth.file
[18:40] <sarhna> the bs=512 and the count=1 will fix it?
[18:41] <AlexPortable> What is recommended swap size?
[18:41] <Janusz> Hello. Which is the address for Ubuntu dev?
[18:41] <AlexPortable> Also how do I install lib32-libxml2 on ubuntu?
[18:42] <Wizard> Janusz: ?
[18:42] <Janusz> Wizard: irc
[18:42] <aethersis> hello, is it possible to use some kind of noise cancellation for ubuntu?
[18:42] <Wizard> AlexPortable: Current Ubuntu supports debian-style multiarch.
[18:42] <Wizard> So it will rather be libxml2:i386
[18:43] <AlexPortable> huh
[18:43] <Wizard> Janusz: #ubuntu-dev or #ubuntu-devel
[18:44] <genii> sarhna: No, the dd part is the actual command, the bs=512 count=1 part is just options to the dd command. Do you know how to use pastebin?
[18:44] <AlexPortable> Wizard: ubuntu says libxml2:i386 is already instlled
[18:44] <AlexPortable> installed*
[18:44] <genii> sarhna: A pastebin of the result of: sudo fdisk -l    ..would be useful to see.
[18:44] <sarhna> ok
[18:44] <sarhna> 1 sec
[18:44] <AlexPortable> but office keeps saying it's missing MSXML
[18:44] <Wizard> AlexPortable: :|
[18:44] <Janusz> Wizard: Thank You. Let God give You plenty of children.
[18:44]  * genii suspects Dell auto-naming thing in effect
[18:44] <Wizard> Janusz: NOOOOOOOO.
[18:44] <Wizard> I hate children :/
[18:45] <genii> !hate | Wizard
[18:45] <Roper_> Hi
[18:45] <ronin> what kind of upload script would be good for uploading big files to a server?
[18:45] <frib> my apt-get is blocked and i cant fix it :( can anyone help? this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8143048/
[18:45] <Roper_> can i disable journaling during install?
[18:45] <sarhna> it is a dell
[18:45] <Wizard> AlexPortable: There is some kind of script which installs all these ms stuff.
[18:45] <Wizard> MSXML for sure isn't available in repo - sorry.
[18:46] <Wizard> AlexPortable: winesetup or winepackages.. I don't recall, I keep away from wine.
[18:46] <AlexPortable> why do you keep away from wine?
[18:47] <Wizard> Because it allows running windows software.
[18:47] <AlexPortable> office
[18:47] <Wizard> And that means it allows running some windows viruses.
[18:47] <genii> sarhna: Ping me when you have the pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l  please, work requires me for a couple/few minutes
[18:47] <Wizard> AlexPortable: Why would I need that?
[18:47] <AlexPortable> because other people give you documetns in .docx format
[18:47] <sarhna> i dont know how to ping, ubunut is loading from disk right now
[18:47] <AlexPortable> and opening in libreoffice messes up the format
[18:47] <Wizard> AlexPortable: Oh yeah :)
[18:48] <Wizard> AlexPortable: I find LyX superior to anything ;D
[18:48] <tirengarfio> I a machine with 16GB of memory, since I don't have many opened apps, why Im consuming around 13GB? http://snag.gy/rNVxb.jpg
[18:49] <Wizard> tirengarfio: Disk caches?
[18:49] <tirengarfio> Wizard, sorry, I don't understand
[18:50] <AlexPortable> Wizard: the partition format in use on your disks normally requries you to create a seperatre partitionfor bootloader code. This paartition should be marked as for use as a 'reserved bios boot area' and should at least be 1 mb in size.'
[18:50] <tirengarfio> I mean, what should I check or do?
[18:50] <tirengarfio> Wizard,
[18:52] <AlexPortable> Wizard: also can windows virusses do any harm in wine/
[18:53] <Wizard> AlexPortable: It depends. I bet things like Cryptolocker could.
[18:53] <user2_> hello, I need your help. Do you know how to install skype because it is not listet in the software center
[18:53] <Wizard> AlexPortable: I recalled, it is called winetricks.
[18:53] <Wizard> It is in repo, afaik.
[18:53] <bazhang> user2_, in the partner repo
[18:54] <bazhang> !info skype partner | user2_
[18:56] <user2_> I am a kind of cunfused right now. I have used linux mint and it worked out well
[18:56] <bazhang> user2_, enable the partner repo in software sources
[18:57] <user2_> When I change to "calaconial partners" nothing is listed. How to ?
[18:57] <sarhna>  1 l
[18:59] <bazhang> user2_, apt-get update first
[19:00] <user2_> doesn't work
[19:00] <genii> sarhna: The original command I gave to you should work, perhaps try it again: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[19:01] <user2_> I have typed in :" apt - get update"
[19:01] <genii> user2_: remove the spaces
[19:01] <aethersis> hello, is it possible to use some kind of noise cancellation for ubuntu?
[19:01] <bazhang> user2_, sudo apt-get update   no spaces
[19:01] <genii> user2_: No space between apt and - and no space between - and get
[19:02] <user2_> It worked out
[19:02] <genii> sarhna: Plase also, just use my name and then the message to me in here, the main channel, instead of /msg genii message or /query genii   message just use  genii message
[19:03] <sarhna>  genii message i tried that and it returns "dd: failed to open 'dev/zero': No such file or directory
[19:03] <user2_> what to do now?
[19:04] <genii> sarhna: There is a sloash    there, like:  /dev/zero
[19:04] <juan__> hello
[19:04] <wafflejock> sarhna: in IRC you can start typing a nick and hit tab to complete
[19:04] <sarhna> genii: oh whoops
[19:04] <genii> sarhna: I triple-checked what I wrote and there is no typo on my part, so it must be on your part ;)
[19:04] <sarhna> wafflejock: thanks
[19:04] <wafflejock> sarhna: np
[19:04] <sarhna> genii: you are correct
[19:05] <genii> work, afk
[19:05] <juan__> hello
[19:05] <juan__> i changed the bios settings
[19:05] <juan__> but i have some doubts
[19:06] <juan__> I found an option in my BIOS about EFI and non EI booting
[19:06] <juan__> nonEFI
[19:06] <sarhna> genii: 1+0 records in, 1+0 records out 512 bytes coped, 0.0383789 s, 13.3 kB/s
[19:06] <juan__> it said EFI, non EFI and auto
[19:06] <user2_> I have done the update, but I still cant find skype in software center
[19:07] <juan__> just to make sure, which one is the correct for ubuntu?
[19:09] <user2_> is there a way where you can change your computer's name?
[19:10] <genii> sarhna: Good. Now go try the Windows install CD again.
[19:10] <sarhna> genii:  ok brb
[19:11] <gr33n7007h> user2_, hostname name
[19:11] <Trudko> guys anybody have an idea why this happened to my screen (ubuntu 14.04 Radeon 7850 , dual monitor) http://oi61.tinypic.com/334n4ma.jpg
[19:13] <user2_> how to get root access because I can't change without root access
[19:13] <user2_> Sorry I am new here
[19:13] <Desu> user2_: sudo -h
[19:14] <Desu> user2_: https://www.edx.org/course/linuxfoundationx/linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-introduction-1621
[19:15] <jirido> Hi whats up with sipwitch for latest ubuntu? does anyone know
[19:16] <wafflejock> user2_: Google will answer lots of the simple questions too, just include the ubuntu version you're on so you get relevant results
[19:17] <wafflejock> jirido: can you be more specific http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sipwitch&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all ?
[19:17] <sarhna> genii: didnt work, still the same thing crashing before setup starts
[19:18] <peloverde> remmina didn't exit cleanly and now when I try to launch it I get "Failed to register: Timeout was reached" which appears to be a gio/gapplication problem. Is there a way I can clear whatever crud it left behind? [14.04 LTS]
[19:18] <quem> i mourn my printer, which has worked without any effort from me in all previous versions of ubuntu.
[19:19] <wafflejock> sarhna: really sounds like it might be a corrupt install CD, you can try disconnecting the hard drive, usually on laptops there is one or two screws holding the hard drive in the bottom of the case, you'd want to pull the power/battery first then you can pop out the hard drive and see if the CD still fails at the same step
[19:19] <genii> sarhna: I would suspect then a corrupted install CD, or else bad hardware of some kind. Your computer should not just spontaneously reboot when the hardware is being probed. If you can boot again to Ubuntu livecd, install the pastebinit application, then issue:  dmesg| pastebinit  ..and give the url please
[19:19] <wafflejock> quem: what kind  of printer some of them actually have linux drivers available on their sites
[19:19] <sarhna> genii: im doing it on a desktop, but i just used the install cd on a different pc and it worked fine
[19:20] <sarhna> genii:  oops wrong tell
[19:20] <sarhna> wafflejock: iim doing it on a desktop, but i just used the install cd on a different pc and it worked fine
[19:20] <sarhna> genii:  ok booting to the ubuntu cd
[19:20] <wafflejock> sarhna: desktop disconnecting the drive is even easier... probably worth a shot to either narrow it down or eliminate that possibility
[19:21] <sarhna> wafflejock: but if there is no drive what will it try to install to?
[19:21] <wafflejock> sarhna: not to actually install just to see if it's causing the problem
[19:21] <sarhna> wafflejock:  ok ill give that a shot
[19:21] <wafflejock> if you're doing things to the hard drive in order to make the install disk work but you don't know that the hard drive is causing the problem it might be a red herring
[19:21] <quem> wafflejock: it's a samsung ml-1630w, previously i've relied on the printer tool automatically downloading and installing the splix driver, but that doesn't work anymore.
[19:22] <juan__> guys, ubuntu usues EFI, UEFI or BIOS?? I've read the forums and the official tutorials but i can't understand that point
[19:22] <genii> wafflejock: This is why I asked to see the dmesg output :)
[19:22] <juan__> are BIOS and EFI/UEFI the same?
[19:22] <wafflejock> genii: for sure not saying that's a bad option either
[19:23] <wafflejock> !uefi
[19:23] <jirido> wafflejock: yes. Im slow. i get you the linkis this some ubuntus repository? becauce we look in gnutelephonys own and there it looks diferent
[19:24] <wafflejock> quem: appears they have a driver for linux on the site if all else fails that might do it http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/ML-1630W/XAA?
[19:24] <quem> wafflejock: yeah, your answer made me look there and i'm currently trying to make sense out of its tarball. :)
[19:25] <sarhna> genii:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8143353
[19:25] <juan__> OK, OK, so uefi is like a new BIOS, so I can't have both in my system right? I need to check which one my pc has
[19:26] <juan__> because i think I have a BIOS setting, not EFI nor UEFI
[19:26] <Kangarooo> BUG! Im recieving all emails about changes in wiki. How to unsubscribe from all wiki pages? HEEEEEEELP! #HELP
[19:27] <wafflejock> Kangarooo: typically e-mails include an unsubscribe link in the bottom
[19:27] <wafflejock> Kangarooo: believe it's federal law in the US
[19:28] <frib>  hi, how can I get to the grub menu at boot time? i tried pressing shift to no avail
[19:28] <wafflejock> frib: you tap shift don't hold it down
[19:28] <wafflejock> frib: some BIOSes will disable a key if it's held down
[19:28] <frib> wafflejock, i tried that too :\ but iwill try again
[19:28] <frib> brb
[19:28] <wafflejock> frib: if that doesn't work out
[19:28] <wafflejock> !grub
[19:28] <frib> ok thanks
[19:29] <wafflejock> you can update the grub config to change the timeout and a few properties then sudo update-grub
[19:29] <wafflejock> np
[19:29] <unitypunk> any reason why i shouldnt upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04?
[19:30] <bazhang> !notes | unitypunk
[19:30] <Kangarooo> wafflejock: this isnt tyoicall thing. this is ubuntu wiki page
[19:30] <unitypunk> what?
[19:30] <unitypunk> i dont want notes.
[19:30] <unitypunk> i wanted a human response.
[19:30] <unitypunk> like " yeah its great"
[19:30] <unitypunk> or " no dont do it it sucks"
[19:31] <bazhang> unitypunk, please dont poll here
[19:31] <unitypunk> thats why i came to a chat room
[19:31] <unitypunk> full of people
[19:31] <unitypunk> that chat.
[19:31] <unitypunk> about ubuntu
[19:31] <bazhang> unitypunk, this is not the place for it
[19:31] <unitypunk> wtf?
[19:31] <unitypunk> where is?
[19:31] <bazhang> watch the language unitypunk
[19:31] <unitypunk> where is the tplace to talk about ubuntu?
[19:31] <unitypunk> what language?
[19:31] <unitypunk> i didnt cuss anywhere dude?
[19:31] <grobe0ba> unitypunk, yes you did
[19:31] <unitypunk> where?
[19:32] <grobe0ba> 'wtf'
[19:32] <grobe0ba> you understand what it stands for, no?
[19:32] <unitypunk> ..
[19:32] <unitypunk> wow
[19:32] <unitypunk> okay
[19:32] <unitypunk> sorry supernazi
[19:32] <sarhna> genii:  did i do it right?
[19:32] <grobe0ba> unitypunk, if you want to poll, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <grobe0ba> this channel is for support
[19:32] <unitypunk> but.. buntu topic.. is ubuntu?
[19:32] <wafflejock> !ot unitypunk
[19:32] <wafflejock> !ot | unitypunk
[19:32] <genii> sarhna: There's a bunch of warning-type stuff in there but nothing dire that would indicate bad hardware failure like input/output errors, etc. What you could try:    sudo fdisk /dev/sda       .... and hit n  to make new partition. Hit enter key for the defaults of what partition, how big, etc.  Then after it makes the partition:  t  to change the type, and put there 7  as partition type.    Then put  w   to write and exit.
[19:33] <genii> sarhna: Then install ntfstools and do: sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sda1
[19:33] <genii> work, afk
[19:37] <sarhna> genii: cant find ntsftools in the ubuntu software app, do i need to look on a website?
[19:38] <bazhang> sarhna, ntfs
[19:38] <sarhna> bazhang: thats what i meant, typo in chat
[19:38] <genii> sarhna: 1 minute
[19:38] <sarhna> genii: no problem
[19:40] <OerHeks> msg ubottu ntfs
[19:41] <OerHeks> !info ntfs-3g
[19:41] <OerHeks> is part of restricted extra's AFAIK
[19:42] <kriskropd> why doesnt elinks store my config in ~/.config/elinks instead of ~/.elinks ?
[19:43] <sarhna> genii:  ok i think i got it rolling, Initializing device with zeroes: 1%
[19:44] <juan__> I need some help with the EFI/UEFI problem, please. I have a PC with Windows7 installed and wants to wipe it all to install ubunutu, but I get a blank screen after pressing "install ubuntu" from a live DVD
[19:45] <genii> OerHeks: Thanks, work is needning me a lot right now
[19:45] <juan__> I'm pretty sure that it's a bios setting problem, and I've read the forums and tutorials but I still can't make it work
[19:45] <genii> sarhna: I will be away for extended periods and then back, etc. Please excuse lag, I'm not ignoring you, just at work and being asked to actually work :)
[19:46] <jhutchins> StabbyMc: Doesn't seem to be working on rhel5: second line of system.auth is auth        required      pam_tally2.so deny=3 onerr=fail unlock_time=1800, failures are logged to /var/log/secure but faillog is empty and user isn't locked out.
[19:46] <sarhna> genii:  no problem at all, i appreciate the help so much.
[19:47] <Gassho> How do I increase volume above 100%?
[19:47] <bryant> Hola alguien que hable español y me pueda ayudar gracias.
[19:47] <jhutchins> Hm, that's interesting, su failure isn't tallying either.
[19:47] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es bryant
[19:48] <bryant> Thanks bro
[19:48] <bazhang> np
[19:49] <juan__> #ubuntu-ar
[19:49] <juan__> #ubuntu-es
[19:50] <bazhang> try /join
[19:51] <peloverde> remmina didn't exit cleanly and now when I try to launch it I get "Failed to register: Timeout was reached" which appears to be a gio/gapplication problem with dbus registration. Is there a way I can clear whatever crud it left behind? [14.04 LTS]
[19:54] <mehdi007>  hj,h,
[19:55] <mehdi007> hy
[19:55] <mehdi007> cv tous le monde
[19:55] <bazhang> !fr
[19:55] <Gassho> je suis une petit singe avec une penis poilu et je deteste la fromage!
[19:56] <Gassho> je desole
[20:01] <bubbely> is there an xwindows channel
[20:01] <bazhang> bubbely, xorg?
[20:06] <rustam> hello
[20:07] <bubbely> !
[20:07] <bubbely> !
[20:10] <juan__> APCI=OFF did the trick
[20:10] <juan__> thanks everydoby
[20:11] <kuldud> hi
[20:11] <kuldud> i installed ubuntu onto a dvd and its not booting
[20:12] <kuldud> i cannot boot from usb since my bios doesnt support it
[20:12] <kuldud> help?
[20:12] <arat> pm me
[20:13] <arat> i will help you
[20:13] <kuldud> what?
[20:15] <dtyle> How would people feel about a mixture of Arch-Ubuntu?
[20:15] <xangua> !ot | dtyle
[20:16] <wafflejock> gone but true
[20:23] <patates> hi might be off topic, but important. where to report GNU/Linux GPL violations? kernel.org?
[20:25] <OerHeks> i think launchpad
[20:25] <OerHeks> !bug
[20:25] <TJ-> patates: GPL Violations Mailing List: http://lists.gpl-violations.org/mailman/listinfo/
[20:25] <TJ-> patates: The "legal" list
[20:26] <patates> Thanks! TJ-
[20:27] <txxt> any tips to have my keyboard on ubuntu just like if I was using my macbook with os x ? thx!
[20:30] <kuldud> can someone help me -ubuntu isnt booting up from cd and i cannot boot from usb since my bios cannot support it ?????!???
[20:31] <OerHeks> kuldud, how did you create the cd? i guess dvd, as the iso doesn\ t fit anymore
[20:31] <kuldud> i burned the image onto a dvd
[20:31] <ianorlin> if you need to you may need to check out plop which is a work around on usb
[20:31] <kuldud> the iso*
[20:32] <ianorlin> does your computer read dvds
[20:32] <kuldud> yes
[20:32] <kuldud> i have windows 7 on the same type of dvd but different one and it works fine
[20:32] <kuldud> ive tried both ubuntu 64 bit and 32 bit
[20:33] <ianorlin> also may want to check the downloaded image
[20:33] <eeee> kuldud: did you remove secureboot?
[20:33] <kuldud> um
[20:33] <kuldud> how do i do that
[20:33] <ianorlin> its windwos 7 so may not have secureboot
[20:33] <OerHeks> tell us why it does not boot?
[20:33] <kuldud> ?
[20:33] <eeee> kuldud: was your pc originally windows 8 ?
[20:33] <kuldud> no
[20:34] <kuldud> its a old laptop
[20:34] <kuldud> hp compaq nc4200
[20:34] <kuldud> windows xp
[20:34] <kuldud> but ive installed windows 7
[20:34] <kuldud> now i want ubuntu
[20:34] <eeee> kuldud: try using a usb
[20:34] <OerHeks> uh oh Intel Pentium M 760 / 2 GHz
[20:34] <OerHeks> no PAE error ?
[20:34] <ianorlin> try force pae?
[20:34] <kuldud> i dont think my bios supports it
[20:35] <kuldud> how do i force pae
[20:35] <OerHeks> kulud give us full info about the errors you have.
[20:36] <morf123> hello
[20:36] <morf123> hm
[20:36] <kuldud> ok well when i put the cd into the computer it starts i press f12 to boot from cd and it doesnt do anything for a while then it goes to windows 7
[20:36] <ianorlin> might be a bad burn
[20:36] <OerHeks> kulud you can try Xubuntu 12.04, which uses no PAE and is still supported.
[20:36] <kuldud> okay
[20:36] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[20:45] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> hey i went and took a ubuntu
[20:45] <havarka> Like2HlpU-Laptop, good, welocome
[20:47] <Siente> Hello guys, do I still need to compile a new kernel with the current version of ubuntu? I got i7-4770K and gtx 760 with asus maximus vi hero mobo
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> Siente  what makes you ask that?
[20:55] <Siente> because when I've built my new PC back in September 2013 I tried to install Linux, but the version of the kernel was not supporting my hardware
[20:55] <optrusty> HELP
[20:55] <Siente> and I've had to compile, but I didn't want to compile and so on
[20:55] <Siente> and also the kernels were not yet stable releases I guess I am not sure
[20:55] <Siente> but now I want to install Linux
[20:55] <optrusty> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 and now my computer is bricked!!!!
[20:56] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:56] <optrusty> This is in CSM MODE
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> Siente  and how is your question ubuntu related?
[20:56] <trijntje> I have an external drive. I can acces and copy files as a normal user, but not as root. I need to copy files as root because I don't have write permissions on the destination, what is going on that I can copy files but sudo cant?
[20:56] <Siente> is the kernel of Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS supporting my hardware?
[20:57] <trijntje> optrusty: less caps lock, more details please
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> Siente  did you try it with a live dvd or usb?
[20:57] <Siente> not yet
[20:58] <optrusty> Sattilete P855 w/ CSM Mode enabled
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> Siente  guess that would be the easiest way to find out
[20:59] <Siente> okay
[21:00] <optrusty> It only has 4 partitions I deleted all partitions except EFI the EFI Partition has windows and clover and Ubuntu efi boot files
[21:00] <trijntje> who can tell me whats going on here: http://pastebin.com/sdFyX2wP ? 'cp file here' works, 'sudo cp file here' fails
[21:01] <TJ-> Could someone with 14.04 amd64 do an "apt-cache policy libprotobuf8 | pastebinit" please?
[21:02] <optrusty> trijntje Can you translate it to english for me plz
[21:03] <eeee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8144114/
[21:03] <eeee> ( @ TJ- )
[21:03] <trijntje> optrusty: http://pastebin.com/sYpwUxBE
[21:03] <TJ-> eeee: Thanks :)
[21:03] <eeee> np :)
[21:04] <optrusty> trijntje Which user did you format from
[21:04] <trijntje> optrusty: what do you mean format from? That drive was formatted years ago, I dont remember
[21:05] <TJ-> eeee: My package manager appears to have its knickers in a serious twist! "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" => "E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package libprotobuf8." and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8144139/  !!
[21:05] <optrusty> trijntje: Lets ake it easier for you How many users do you if one that means you formatted it from that one
[21:07] <trijntje> optrusty: I don't understand what you are saying, I've reinstalled ubuntu many times since I formatted that drive
[21:07] <optrusty> Ok go to Properties
[21:08] <maxvi> what different between ubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 14.04.1?
[21:08] <optrusty> and to the Security tab
[21:08] <eeee> TJ-: yikes
[21:08] <optrusty> maxvi: I thing they are a minor update
[21:08] <TJ-> trijntje: "f92255f6-7eb0-40b2-aa5b-35efbc7fa60d" is a removable-media file-system we assume, probably not using Unix permissions (FAT32 or NTFS maybe?)
[21:09] <trijntje> TJ-: no, its using ext4
[21:09] <maxvi> so if I install ubutntu 14.04 and update it I will get 14.04.1?
[21:09] <havarka> maxvi, correct
[21:09] <TJ-> eeee: Yeah, that's what I said :) I cleared the apt lists/ directory and redid the 'update' but it remains the same; something is very weird
[21:09] <xangua> maxvi: Point releases are just security updates up to date
[21:10] <eeee> TJ-: try to reinstall libprotobuf8 , won't harm i guess
[21:10] <maxvi> thanks!
[21:11] <Trudko> guys anybody have an idea why this happened to my screen (ubuntu 14.04 Radeon 7850 , dual monitor) http://oi61.tinypic.com/334n4ma.jpg
[21:12] <TJ-> eeee: It's not installed at all on Kubuntu. I only discovered this when I tried to install CCSM to do some tests for a user last night.
[21:12] <optrusty> Trudko: PC?
[21:13] <havarka> Trudko, its $#*#ed up
[21:13] <TJ-> Trudko: GPU video RAM corruption, possible overheating
[21:13] <dingus> Does anyone here know a program that will automatically change the mp3 tag for a song title to the file name of the mp3?
[21:13] <TJ-> dingus: "mp3rename"
[21:14] <optrusty> Trudko: Daul like 2 or more and How many gigs does the GPU have
[21:14] <TJ-> dingus: See additional tools in "libid3-tools"
[21:14] <kzoo> [B
[21:14] <optrusty> ©optrusty 2014
[21:15] <Trudko> optrusty: 1gb , but I have suspicion now
[21:15] <optrusty> trudko: Why
[21:15] <Trudko> I guess TJ- might be right because I am running boinc manager on pc and thit set it up much
[21:15] <trijntje> who can tell me what is going on here http://pastebin.com/sYpwUxBE ? 'cp file here' works, but 'sudo cp file here' fails with permission denied. What can cause this?
[21:16] <TJ-> trijntje: apparmor profile?
[21:16] <TJ-> trijntje: Look in the auth.log
[21:16] <eeee> TJ-: sorry i meant, to try to install it, won't harm i guess, did you check the manifest? maybe it was deleted somehow?
[21:16] <TJ-> eeee: Can't install it because there's no Filename: field to show the package-manager where to fetch it from :)
[21:17] <eeee> hehe
[21:17] <OerHeks> trijntje, what does " ls -la /media/trijntje/f92255f6-7eb0-40b2-aa5b-35efbc7fa60d/backup/home/test  " say?
[21:18] <trijntje> OerHeks: -rw-r--r-- 1 trijntje trijntje 39 aug 10 13:02 /media/trijntje/f92255f6-7eb0-40b2-aa5b-35efbc7fa60d/backup/home/test
[21:19] <karlkappe> #xubuntu
[21:19] <ariel__> hey im ariel im bord
[21:19] <trijntje> TJ-: this is from auth.log, though I cant really see an error: http://pastebin.com/TVcE3rDr
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> ariel__  switch off your pc, then go out and play
[21:20] <OerHeks> trijntje encrypted home?
[21:20]  * eeee just remembered dude wheres my car, (the hot chicks, aliens)
[21:20] <ariel__> i cant to much gota do online but its boring me
[21:21] <eeee> ariel__: do you want the trans contiuuum transfunctioner ?
[21:21] <trijntje> OerHeks: hmm, half. ..../backup/home is encfs, I'm trying to move my files out of it. Ill try mounting the encfs as root, see if that helps
[21:23] <trijntje> OerHeks: nice, that did the trick
[21:23] <OerHeks> have fun
[21:23] <th3host> guys do you know how ti install flux capacitor on ubuntu ?
[21:23] <trijntje> so I guess that is ment to make it harder for root to sneak a peak at a users encrypted files
[21:24] <OerHeks> trijntje it should not, indeed
[21:25] <OerHeks> ls -la  ~/tmp/
[21:26] <TJ-> With encfs/ecrypts each user attaches their decryption key to the per-user kernel key-ring, so another user without the key won't be able to access an encrypted FS
[21:27] <cefex> hello everyone! I'm getting browser freezes with a few tabs open. what could be wrong?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> cefex  which browser on which system?
[21:27] <cefex> MonkeyDust, firefox on 14.04
[21:28] <trijntje> OerHeks: remounting the encfs as sudo solved the problem, I'm copying the files now
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> cefex  and what kind of websites? videos sites?
[21:29] <trijntje> TJ-: is that actually secure against a malicious root? Provided it doesn't snoop you typing in the password
[21:29] <cefex> MonkeyDust, no, any site.
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> cefex  and did it 'work' normally before?
[21:31] <cefex> MonkeyDust, I've been having this problem on and off for 2 months now. before it didnt ever happen. I checked my RAM, 16 passes, no errors. I was recommended to apply some wifi-related command, it seemed to work for a few days (no freezes) but then it started again.
[21:31] <cefex> the guy who gave me the wifi command said it could be a wifi power saving issue.
[21:31] <brian1001> hi people
[21:32] <brian1001> not directly an unbuntu (only) question but does someone here has experience with an indoor Wifi position server / client (linux based)
[21:32] <elichai2> can someone please have a look: https://askubuntu.com/questions/514190/how-can-i-prevent-the-wifi-to-auto-disconnects-when-idle thanks!
[21:32] <optrusty> Can anyone help me
[21:33] <OerHeks> elichai2, i remember a setting "for all users" to fix that
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> cefex  and not too many additional plugins?
[21:33] <serverhorror> hmm when using the /etc/cron.d/apt stuff is there a setting to only keep 2 or 3 kernels? my disk just went full and I had to actually read the manpage of dpkg again because it was so long I forgot how to remove packages with dpkg when apt won’t do any more....
[21:33] <elichai2> OerHeks, nope, the problem is when the laptop get idle the wifi just turned off until i reconnect, and that setting is already set
[21:35] <cefex> MonkeyDust, not at all
[21:36] <cefex> as a matter of fact, I had more plugins before, and it didnt happen
[21:40] <cefex> MonkeyDust, I was advised to reboot after applying this command 'echo iwconfig wlan0 power off | sudo tee /etc/pm/power.d/wireless'  this helped a few days without problem, and now it helps for an hour or two, and then freezes come back
[21:41] <chili555> cefex: cat: /etc/pm/power.d/wireless: No such file or directory
[21:42] <Pixel91> Hello, can someone please help me with installing a game from an .iso that was intended for windows?
[21:43] <cefex> chili555, there is an output at the end?
[21:43] <Pixel91> Hello? Anyone? Lil help here?
[21:43] <myjobisgop> Pixe you choosed incorrect room for your question
[21:43] <Beldar> Pixel91, Details are needed for help including the game and whether known to work in linux.
[21:43] <Pixel91> it's the default from xchat, I'm new to linux, sorry, where should I go?
[21:44] <chili555> cefex: on my 14.04 system,there is no such file, so you are creating it from scratch, but how or where does it get referenced and used??
[21:45] <Beldar> Pixel91, Ubuntu has use of wine and playonlinux for .exe stuff, any of this sound familiar?
[21:45] <chili555> cefex: You might look at making some changes to /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/wireless
[21:45] <cefex> chili555, I was asked to run  rfkill list, iwconfig and then this command. and reboot
[21:46] <cefex> chili555, I have no clue about wireless
[21:46] <chili555> cefex: are you trying to get power mgmt off at all times or what?
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> cefex  do you have the same issue with a cable, instead of wifi?
[21:47] <cefex> MonkeyDust, I havent tried it yet, dont have a cable
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> cefex  always have a cable at hand
[21:48] <leotr> hi! i want to make customized install usb drive. What is the best way to do it?
[21:50] <Beldar> leotr, there are a few multiloaders, yumi for loading from windows this or just a grub install for ubuntu. leotr
[21:50] <juan__> i managed to finish the installation process of ubuntu but now i can't boot! I get a black screen
[21:50] <Beldar> leotr, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/multiboot/
[21:51] <juan__> I used an option called ACPI Workarounds to get the installation process to work
[21:51] <Beldar> !nomodeset | juan__ try this boot,
[21:52] <TJ-> eeee: Fixed the package list; it was a new script I have processing them that was at fault (I need grub-pc and grub-efi installed at the same time but they're listed as Conflicts, so my script removes those to allow the packages to be installed at the same time)
[21:52] <juan__> I have a ati amd radeon hd 6450
[21:54] <Beldar> juan__, That link gets you the kernel tweaks info on install, besides the nomodeset option.
[21:55] <cefexx> chili555, MonkeyDust, sorry. I had to restart after freeze. as you see, it is impossible to work
[21:55] <juan__> I just tried nomodeset, I get a lot of lines like "[      0.293325] ACPI: Added_OSI (Processor Aggregator Device)"
[21:55] <cefexx> chili555, checking power mgmt now
[21:55] <juan__> and the computer is now still on those lines
[21:55] <chili555> cefexx: what are you trying to solve? Freezes?
[21:56] <cefexx> yes
[21:56] <cefexx> chili555, yes
[21:56] <alberto_> !list
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> cefexx  somehow get an ethernet cable, so you don't have to worry about wifi
[21:56] <eeee> TJ-: great! :)
[21:57] <cefexx> MonkeyDust, I am not on a fixed connection, so cable wont help anyway
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> cefexx  every pc has an ethernet connection
[21:58] <cefexx> the other guy had advised to change cpu frequency to 'performance', too..
[21:58] <cefexx> MonkeyDust, yes, but I have no internet on  the other end of the cable
[21:58] <cefexx> to connect to
[21:58] <jhutchins> MonkeyDust: Not true.
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> cefexx  what do you connect to, with wifi?
[21:59] <cefexx> MonkeyDust, yes
[21:59] <chili555> cefexx: what in the log suggests its related to wireless? It may be, but how do we know?
[22:00] <cefexx> chili555, in which log can I see it?
[22:00] <iu08ds> Anyone ever used cryptsetup-reencrypt? I started a process that will take 702 hours and I would like to revert to the original :)
[22:00] <sarhna> genii:  still around?
[22:00] <chili555> MonkeyDust, many ppl have wireless included as part of rent and no ethernet jack is in the apartment
[22:00] <genii> sarhna: Marginally
[22:01] <sarhna> genii:  haha, so that last process is at about 90%. when it finishes so i just try the xp install again?
[22:01] <jhutchins> cefexx: I think someone probably thought your wifi was going into power saave mode and gave you a command to disable that, but obviously it wasn't the problem.
[22:01] <genii> sarhna: Yep
[22:01] <jhutchins> cefexx: What browser are you using?  Have you tried different ones?
[22:01] <sarhna> genii:  ok thanks so much again for the help
[22:01] <genii> sarhna: If it does the same reboot thing it's nothing to do with the hard drive or what's on it
[22:01] <jhutchins> cefexx: Does it happen every time you open the fourth tab, or just happen to usually have four tabs open when it freezes?
[22:01] <chili555> cefexx: in /var/log/syslog but you'll need to scroll back and forth to see the time of the freeze. You might also see if the wireless driver is mentioned in the log
[22:02] <sarhna> ok cool, that would make it a install cd problem?
[22:02] <jhutchins> cefexx: There also might be info in dmesg after the freeze.
[22:02] <chili555> cefexx, cat /var/log/syslog | grep iwlwifi  <---or whatever your wireless driver is, if not iwlwifi
[22:02] <jhutchins> cefexx: Is it just the browser that freezes, the whole GUI, or the console as well?
[22:03] <genii> sarhna: It can be many problems. The CD itself or the reader would be suspect. The CD might not be for same kind of computer you are trying to install on. The reader might be failing. There may be some BIOS setting which is making it reboot. Etc.
[22:03] <TJ-> iu08ds: How large is the block device that is being re-encrypted?
[22:04] <cefexx> jhutchins, I'm using firefox. but when the freeze happens, it affects the computer in general. I don't know if it'd happen if I started using another program instead of the browser. after this guy's wifi suggestion, I could amazingly use two browsers with at least 10 tabs together, and I thought it was solved, this was 2 days ago
[22:06] <sarhna> genii:  ok cool, ill give this a shot and then look into other options
[22:06] <cefexx> jhutchins, it happens sometimes with even 1 tab
[22:06] <cefexx> jhutchins, the cursor freezes, too, or at least becomes very slow to move
[22:06] <chili555> cefexx, so you were advised to turn power management off and it seemed to help?
[22:06] <star_prone> hi
[22:06] <expunge> hi star
[22:06] <star_prone> does anyone use a sticky notes app on ubuntu 14.04 with Unity?
[22:06] <expunge> star_prone: probably someone does
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> star_prone  try tomboy
[22:07] <ferramenta> i need to recover some data or a partition, is this the right place to ask for advice ?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> !recover | ferramenta
[22:08] <LucasTT> is it safe to reboot the computer with programs running?
[22:08] <cefexx> chili555, I was advised to apply rfkill list, iwconfig and then 'echo iwconfig wlan0 power off | sudo tee /etc/pm/power.d/wireless' and reboot. also set cpufreq to 'performance'
[22:08] <cefexx> like I said, I was freed for about 48 hours after that
[22:08] <star_prone> I tried a lot of apps, xfce-notes (I know Unity != xfce but it worked under cinnamon), indicator stickynotes but this doesn't work and the bug I'm experiencing seems to have been reported but never fixed, and so on...
[22:08] <LucasTT> and also indicators
[22:08] <ferramenta> thank you
[22:08] <iu08ds> TJ: 6TB
[22:08] <chili555> cefexx, right now, is power mgmt on or off? iwconfig
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> cefexx  what does your wifi connect to? a router?
[22:10] <SLC_> hi
[22:10] <TJ-> iu08ds: I hope the coffee pot is large :)
[22:10] <cefexx> chili555 I have the output of the command with grep iwlwifi, what should i look for in it
[22:10] <cefexx> ß
[22:11] <cefexx> ?
[22:11] <star_prone> MonkeyDust: tomboy has a comment which states that the app will not work under Ubuntu 14.04
[22:11] <chili555> cefexx: is iwlwifi your wireless driver?
[22:12] <jj995> after upgrading from 13.04 to 14.04, pip isn't working right.  e.g. "pip list" ends in an Exception.  How can I fix this? should I apt-get purge python-pip; apt-get install python-pip?
[22:12] <cefexx> chili555, I have many lines that have iwlwifi in it, so it seems it is?
[22:12] <jj995> here is the exception: http://pastebin.com/HRAUMQWX
[22:13] <erebus^> doesnt "make startup disk" work?
[22:13] <chili555> cefexx, seems so. Can you paste the output here and give us the link? http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:14] <erebus^> i need to create a bootable sd card for my raspberry pi :(
[22:14] <jj995> I'm going to try pip install --upgrade distribute
[22:14] <expunge> erebus^: so do it
[22:15] <erebus^> expunge, i cant, "startup disk creator" doesnt work :(
[22:16] <expunge> erebus^: I've seen instructions for that before, and you don't need a special app
[22:16] <expunge> also, don't frown on the internet unless you want to be mistaken for a little girl
[22:16] <cefexx> chili555, sure, it's here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8144637/
[22:16] <ferramenta> I was cleaning my computer insides and apparently the cmos battery got disconnected, which made the bios reset. My asus motherboard has two special ports where two disks can connect to make a raid called drive xpert. So, in the motherboard I have 2 disks of 500 gb connected, and before, when every was working fine, this was recognized by the bios as being one 1TB disk. I guess the information is intact but my computer no longer recogni
[22:16] <ferramenta> zes those two disks as one disk. Will i have problems of having data of same file in both disks. Its nfts file system. The thing is that at the moment i don't have much free space to recover the files.
[22:18] <chili555> cefexx, not a thing remarkable there. I'd wait till there is a freeze, make a note of the time and check /var/log/syslog at that timestamp.
[22:18] <erebus^> expunge, its not a special app
[22:18] <expunge> ferramenta: you'll need more space eventually anyways, no harm buying more
[22:18] <expunge> also, don't use hardware solutions when software can do it
[22:18] <chili555> cefexx, is power mgmt on or off right now? iwconfig
[22:18] <expunge> also, the likelihood you're using raid correctly is quite low
[22:19] <expunge> you probably want to use jbod or something else
[22:19] <expunge> erebus^: hrmm?
[22:19] <cefexx> chili555, it is stated as off
[22:20] <chili555> cefexx, I suggest you wait for a freeze and check the log after reboot. I don't see anything that points to wireless so far
[22:21] <erebus^> expunge, you need to create a bootable disk in order to copy the pi os to a sd card, and to do that you use "startup disk creator", which isnt a special app, its a default program that comes with ubuntu
[22:25] <expunge> erebus^: you don't need that
[22:25] <expunge> especially if it doesn't work
[22:25] <OerHeks> formatting to FAT32 will do the trick
[22:26] <cefexx> chili555, the logs of the interval of freeze refer almost entirely to regular wireless status info, like this updated, that changed..
[22:27] <cefexx> as if nothing else was done in the meantime
[22:27] <erebus^> OerHeks, yeah, the "noobs" thing probably work
[22:28] <erebus^> OerHeks, but i want to run the initial setup via ssh
[22:28] <erebus^> OerHeks, but i guess it's an acceptable solution if all else fails
[22:29] <erebus^> OerHeks, just hurts me that I need to boot up windows to create linux boots
[22:29] <ferramenta> thanks expunge
[22:30] <OerHeks> erebus^, it is an raspberry pi iso, if usb-creator does not do the job, use unetbootin
[22:30] <l_r> hello
[22:30] <treats> trying to check what version of ubuntu is loaded up onto a live cd... any sneaky ways?
[22:30] <l_r> what's the latest version of gcc in ubuntu 14.04?
[22:30] <OerHeks> treats look at the date of the files
[22:30] <TJ-> !info gcc
[22:31] <OerHeks> !info gcc
[22:31] <l_r> thx
[22:31] <treats> earlier today
[22:31] <TJ-> treats: Look at the metadata directory
[22:32] <expunge> you don't need some mystery app to put a raspberry pi image on an sd card...
[22:32] <cefexx> in a 30 min, interval there are only lines referring to wireless logs
[22:32] <expunge> it's not an install image, it's a system image
[22:33] <expunge> it's already setup
[22:33] <expunge> you just copy it over
[22:33] <erebus^> OerHeks, yeah im actually trying unetbootin right now!
[22:33] <expunge> erebus^: don't...
[22:33] <TJ-> treats: Specifically, look at "/.disk/info"
[22:33] <erebus^> it wrote some files, but it doesnt look right
[22:33] <expunge> ...because it's wrong, read up
[22:33] <expunge> what're you reading that says to use unetbootin for this? I'm guessing nothing
[22:35] <treats> TJ-: thanks!  but it was the wrong version :(
[22:35] <erebus^> expunge, dont think i follow you, the raspbian image is a system image, right?
[22:36] <expunge> erebus^: it's a whole OS that's already installed
[22:36] <expunge> you don't have to boot it like a live OS
[22:36] <expunge> it's not live
[22:36] <expunge> it's already installed, you just copy it over
[22:37] <expunge> any instructions for using it will tell you this
[22:37] <erebus^> expunge, i know its installed, but what do you mean "just copy it over"? its a huge .img file, no good on its own
[22:37] <erebus^> needs a boot partition, for one
[22:37] <expunge> lord in heaven
[22:37] <andrej> Is there a list available anywhere that gives me the names of system accounts installed by packages?
[22:38] <expunge> cat /etc/group
[22:38] <andrej> Googling gives me ways to see installed users (I've been using Linux for 15+ years, I know how to find present users).
[22:39] <andrej> I'm trying to build a system that verifies that only permissible users are present on a system
[22:40] <expunge> erebus^: you can just use dd, usually, just be careful
[22:40] <expunge> andrej: that does what now?
[22:41] <andrej> expunge: it's not about one single system. I'm looking after a fleet of currently ~ 60 ubuntu machines, with varied roles (and hence different accounts)
[22:42] <andrej> I need to make sure I find (and remove) users not in my list of permitted users.
[22:42] <andrej> On all of them
[22:43] <expunge> andrej: /etc/passwd
[22:43] <andrej> *sigh*
[22:43] <andrej> Yes ... that gives me currently installed users
[22:44] <expunge> right
[22:44] <RedheadedCupcake> Can someone help me with an error I am getting?
[22:44] <andrej> I'm looking for a list of users which are (or might be) installed by packages
[22:44] <expunge> you want users that packages you haven't installed yet will setup?
[22:44] <expunge> aren't those irrelevant if they aren't installed?
[22:44] <expunge> RedheadedCupcake: someone can, yup
[22:44] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge can you? lol
[22:45] <andrej> Kind of. Someone (either another team member, or an attacker, if a box was had) might create a new account.
[22:45] <sarhna> ##windows
[22:45] <expunge> RedheadedCupcake: how should I know, you haven't said what your problem is
[22:45] <sarhna> genii: yeah still same problem
[22:45] <andrej> I'd like to a) get a notification of that event and b) find out whnce the user came from
[22:45] <expunge> that seems a bit like coming at it backwards
[22:46] <andrej> RedheadedCupcake : that will depend on the error
[22:46] <expunge> why not look into AIDE or something
[22:46] <andrej> AIDE is ok stand-alone, doesn't offer itself for a centralised approach very well
[22:47] <expunge> huh?
[22:47] <andrej> I looked at Samhain, but had no luck with the freebie centralisation in terms of updates, and given ubuntus patch-cycles maintaining this would be a full time job
[22:47] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge I don't even know what it is. I have a little red icon up top and it says to run the package manager (is it talking about Synaptic PM or what) and the error code is Unknown Error: <class key error> the cache has no package named wine-compholio-i386
[22:48] <expunge> andrej: so random people can install things?
[22:48] <andrej> A team of 8 people has access
[22:48] <expunge> andrej: through sudo?
[22:48] <andrej> not exactly random - but I need to be able to audit it easily enough
[22:48] <cefexx> for ex. I have 10 tabs and 4 programs open, without problem now
[22:49] <expunge> RedheadedCupcake: yeah that's from your netflix thing, was that through a PPA?
[22:49] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge what is PPA?
[22:49] <teward> !ppa > RedheadedCupcake
[22:50] <RedheadedCupcake> !ppa
[22:50] <genii> sarhna: Yes, so the hard drive or whatever's on it is not the problem. It's something else.
[22:50] <BuZain> !ppa > BuZain
[22:50] <expunge> holy spam
[22:50] <sarhna> genii:  hmm..i know the xp install disk just worked yesterday for a different pc
[22:51] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge how do we fix it?
[22:52] <genii> sarhna: If it is an install disc for a specific computer model like say an Acer and you try to install it on another kind of computer like say a Dell, this issue can hapen also. I already said before there are many possibilities what the issue can be.
[22:52] <expunge> RedheadedCupcake: you might ask #wine-compholio or #pipelight, even though it's an Ubuntu problem they might know the fix
[22:52] <OerHeks> sarhna, what is the issue, xp disk does not see hdd?
[22:52] <sarhna> genii:  yeah i think im just going to purchase win7
[22:52] <genii> sarhna: But we know now that it is not an Ubuntu support issue any longer, but either a Windows install issue, or a hardware issue
[22:52] <sarhna> OerHeks:  yeah it stats to check the systems hardware and then locks up and reboots
[22:52] <expunge> if you're trying to install Windows XP on much-later-than-XP-era hardware, that isn't necessarily surprising
[22:53] <expunge> you just going with XP 'cause you had it handy?
[22:53] <sarhna> genii:  well thank you for taking so much time to help me today
[22:53] <OerHeks> sarhna, maybe you have a SATA hdd, set to AHCI, in the bios
[22:54] <sarhna> OerHeks: would that affect the ability for ubuntu to install? because it did just fine
[22:54] <OerHeks> and should be an IDE compatible mode, as XP has no satadrivers onboard
[22:55] <MyWay> hello, I'm having some problem with dimensions/resolution, I have to set scaling factor to 0,5, or my windows are too big! I never had this problem before, I'm using an amd 7770hd video card, any idea?
[22:56] <sarhna> OerHeks: it says Sata 0,  bios = this drive is controlled by the AHCI BIOS
[22:56] <CrypticByte> Questions guys and gals, has anyone else had a problem with apps like xchat or hexchat not showing tray icons?
[22:57] <OerHeks> sarhna, that is fine for ubuntu, not for xp, so choose one of them.
[22:57] <sarhna> OerHeks: im not sure how to change that in the bios
[22:59] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge thank you i love you
[23:01] <sarhna> OerHeks:  is that option changed in the stat operation settings in bios, i see raid auto/ahci, raid auto/ata, and raid on
[23:01] <OerHeks> i think auto/ata
[23:01] <sarhna> OerHeks: changed to that and still wont work.
[23:01] <OerHeks> see if you can boot xp cd now, and get to the point partitioning good luck
[23:02] <sarhna> "setup is inspecting your computers hardware configuration >>>>crash reboot every time
[23:02] <expunge> RedheadedCupcake: what'd I do?
[23:03] <capoderra0> I can't seem to move files into a directory that I create. I did sudo mkdir wallpapers. Then when I type sudo mv picture1 /wallpaper it says it's not a directory.
[23:04] <capoderra0> Then when I type rm /wallpaper it says "It's a directory".
[23:04] <capoderra0> How can it not be a directory and be a directory at the same time?
[23:04] <OerHeks> capoderra0, sudo picture mv ~/wallpaper # "~" stands for /home/$user/
[23:05] <capoderra0> OerHeks, I'm not moving it into a home folder. I'm actually in the same folder that I'm issuing the commands. Do I have to type the absolute path to use mv?
[23:06] <OerHeks> yes, for destination , /home/<you>/wallpaper or use the short ~/wallpaper
[23:07] <OerHeks> for scripting i would use full paths, less chance of mistakes
[23:07] <capoderra0> OerHeks, that worked, thanks for the tip
[23:07] <capoderra0> Unrelated, but what is the user www-data?
[23:07] <expunge> or $HOME
[23:08] <expunge> but I prefer to wait for a problem before abandoning something as problematic =)
[23:10] <wafflejock> capoderra0: www-data is used by the apache process
[23:10] <expunge> RedheadedCupcake: someone in one of those chans knew what to do?
[23:10] <wafflejock> capoderra0: I actually just found out in here the other day the main apache process runs as root but there are child processes it uses for handling the requests and they are run as www-data
[23:11] <wafflejock> sarhna: you try disconnecting the disk too? wasn't around for all the debugging you were trying
[23:14] <sarhna> wafflejock: yeah tried taking it all apart still said the same stuff
[23:15] <Yui_> can anyone explain me, why  my hard drive is not recognized by the bios after the installation finished and asked me to restart? this is the second time ubuntu does this to me
[23:16] <bao_> anyone here work with openstack?
[23:16] <wafflejock> sarhna: you don't by chance have any other copies of the XP install disc do you?
[23:16] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: it somehow worked with a different operating system?
[23:16] <sarhna> wafflejock: nope =(
[23:17] <sarhna> wafflejock: but i just used this one on a different pc yesterday and it worked just fine
[23:17] <Farva> linux newb here, I have a teamspeak and game process running on my server and I don't know how to switch to the process. it is not showing up on my screen -r (which my startup script should have made a new screen for automatically)
[23:17] <wafflejock> sarhna: yeah just trying to narrow things down as much as possible seems if it still does that without the disc connected then it's borking when probing some other hardware
[23:18] <Yui_> yes it had windows before but i decided to change
[23:18] <sarhna> wafflejock: ran ubuntu great,just cant install xp
[23:18] <wafflejock> sarhna: I would strip it to bare essentials disconnecting any hard drives and just try to run the disc that way you may have to fiddle with BIOS settings to see what stops XP from failing
[23:18] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: what's the exact error message?
[23:19] <sarhna> wafflejock:  only other thing it could be is the graphics card i suppose
[23:19] <wafflejock> sarhna: if XP doesn't find a disk it generally just tells you that
[23:19] <netlar> How do you check the boot logs again?
[23:20] <wafflejock> !grub | netlar
[23:20] <sarhna> wafflejock:  it just seems like something is killing the install process, because it just cuts really suddenly with no error message or anything
[23:20] <Yui_> none, my pc is stuck at the bios unless i disconnect the drive, ubuntu didnt show any error it installed just fine, askmed me to reset and this happened
[23:20] <wafflejock> sarhna: yeah if we have no HDD connected though we eliminate the possibility of something Linux changed on the drive or otherwise
[23:20] <wafflejock> sarhna: taking out the video card if you have on board is a good idea too
[23:20] <eeee> netlar: /var/log/syslog
[23:21] <wafflejock> sarhna: if it works then you can add components one by one to see what is causing the problem
[23:21] <sarhna> wafflejock: ive tried with the drive out, ill try with the drive and video card out too
[23:21] <netlar> eeee: thanks
[23:21] <eeee> np
[23:21] <Yui_> it happened to me like 2 years ago but i thought it was a normal drive failure but happened again now with a new drive
[23:22] <wafflejock> netlar: ah sorry thought that troubleshooting page had it but don't see it there
[23:23] <wafflejock> Yui_: drives actually typically die early after shipment if they have a problem, that said is this an internal SATA drive or...
[23:24] <Yui_> first was an ide drive this is was sata.... im afraid to try again and lose another Hdd
[23:26] <donc3> HI!!!
[23:26] <donc3> I have a problem with the microphone in my ubuntu 14.04
[23:26] <netlar> wafflejock: that is ok, think I found what I am looking for, it is the dmesg
[23:26] <donc3> I want to use the micro of the headset, but it only works  the netbook micro
[23:26] <donc3> could somebody help me??
[23:26] <wafflejock> Yui_: never seen or had a problem like that so not sure where to point you, maybe someone else knows
[23:27] <wafflejock> Yui_: my BIOS is touchy about USB devices but never had problems with the internal drives
[23:27] <wafflejock> netlar: ah k yeah dmesg is generally helpful for the boot up and shut down info
[23:27] <TJ-> Yui_: Does the system have UEFI firmware?
[23:27] <netlar> wafflejock: Just like to look at that, see if any problems crop up
[23:28] <Yui_> no, its an old intel 865G mobo i was trying to make use of it with a new os...
[23:29] <sarhna> wafflejock:  so i tried it without the video card or hard drive, and still the same problem.  then i tried it with an old hdd that had xp on it. it went to the loading windows screen then blue screened and crashed out
[23:29] <wafflejock> sarhna: with the old HDD in did you try booting off the CD, any difference?
[23:30] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: what bios?
[23:30] <sarhna> wafflejock: yeah tried booting off the cd and it did the same thing, started loading, blue screen. reboot
[23:30] <Yui_> lastest available
[23:30] <wafflejock> sarhna: also you might want to try the ubuntu live CD memtest to see if RAM is being finicky perhaps, but I'm about out of ideas on what else to try
[23:31] <anarkhos|2> i don't see why BIOS wouldn't recognize the hard drive just because ubuntu is on it
[23:31] <sarhna> wafflejock: im willing to try just about anything
[23:31] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: have you looked throught the bios settings?
[23:31] <sarhna> wafflejock:  but im probably about to just go buy win7
[23:31] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: how was the drive partitioned?
[23:31] <wafflejock> sarhna: yea XP is EOL anyhow and 7 isn't bad
[23:31] <wafflejock> sarhna: it is a strange problem though
[23:32] <Yui_> i fully formated it and partitioned it with a guide i found, and I  cant get in the bios, the hdd led is always on when trying to boot
[23:33] <TJ-> Yui_: If the BIOS Setup storage devices page doesn't show the device, nor the boot-menu config page, I'd suspect the power supply if we assume the drive didn't just die.
[23:33] <TJ-> Yui_: This is a SATA drive?
[23:33] <Yui_> yes
[23:33] <TJ-> Yui_: Have you done a complete power off reset (pulled plug from wall) so there's no 5V stand-by even?
[23:34] <FKLinguista> Howdy!  I have a problem with my LO that is actually quite Ubuntu related.  I accidentally caused this error (http://askubuntu.com/questions/302103/font-messed-up)
[23:34] <sarhna> wafflejock: yeah i just dont know where to find a box, and dont know who to trust to buy from online for instant download
[23:34] <FKLinguista> But none of the solutions work enough to get my fonts back to normal in LibreOffice
[23:34] <wafflejock> sarhna: can always go through the microsoft site, or Amazon or some other bigger retailer
[23:35] <Yui_> yeah i tried that, i can boot with a live dvd if i disconnect the drive...
[23:35] <FKLinguista> The entire forms of the fonts are messed up. Compare my font in LibreOffice to its PDF render (http://oi58.tinypic.com/2r6cub4.jpg)
[23:35] <sarhna> wafflejock:  ive looked on microsoft and it seems they only sell 8 now
[23:35] <anarkhos|2> Yui_:  would it be possible to boot a live-cd/-usb, prepare a disk check program, connect the troubled hd and then check it for errors?
[23:35] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: no, it would still not be detected...
[23:36] <wafflejock> sarhna: yeah probably just marketing that you can get it on Amazon (along with everything else under the sun...
[23:36] <wafflejock> )
[23:36] <TJ-> Yui_: Does the mobo have different sockets for different types of SATA device? Some will have sockets on controllers that can't do ATAPI for example. Some have sockets assigned for fake-RAID configurations
[23:36] <sarhna> wafflejock: yeah just only available through hard copy in the mail on amazon, i just dont wanna wait to get this pc running, haha
[23:37] <FKLinguista> Anybody have an idea about my problem?
[23:37] <Yui_> it has just 2 sata ports near each other, i can try switching them too....
[23:38] <Yui_> I'll try find someome to test it on other pc... thanks anyway for help
[23:38] <TJ-> Yui_: It's a long-shot seeing as the drive worked fine during installation, but stranger things have happened
[23:39] <Yui_>  thanks to you all :) bye
[23:40] <anarkhos|2> Yui_: bye
[23:40] <wafflejock> Yui_: good luck
[23:47] <FKLinguista> Can someone please help me/
[23:47] <FKLinguista> ?
[23:48] <popey> FKLinguista: wassup?
[23:48] <FKLinguista> Suffering from this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango-graphite/+bug/1176022
[23:48] <FKLinguista> All of my fonts are broken
[23:48] <FKLinguista> (in most programs except for firefox and a couple others)
[23:48] <FKLinguista> I'm mostly concerned about them being broken in LibreOffice
[23:49] <FKLinguista> I work a lot with non-roman scripts, and tried to see if installing pango-graphite would help the OS support my script (before I knew about the bug)
[23:49] <popey> you're running 13.04?
[23:49] <FKLinguista> Yes
[23:49] <popey> ⍨
[23:49] <FKLinguista> No wait
[23:49] <FKLinguista> 14,04
[23:49] <FKLinguista> Sorry
[23:49] <FKLinguista> But the bug affected me, too
[23:50] <OerHeks> FKLinguista, best thing to do is to confirm that issue on launchpad
[23:50] <FKLinguista> Ok, OerHeks, I will
[23:50] <popey> that bug hasn't been touched
[23:50] <FKLinguista> But what should I do about my OS?
[23:50] <FKLinguista> Do I have to reinstall Ubuntu to fix it?
[23:50] <FKLinguista> I tried purging the package, and it didn't fix it
[23:51] <FKLinguista> I tried reinstalling every font package and manual font on my system and clearing the font cache
[23:51] <FKLinguista> Nothing has worked so far
[23:51] <popey> the package doesn't look to have changed ever
[23:51] <FKLinguista> http://oi58.tinypic.com/2r6cub4.jpg
[23:51] <popey> so likely it's an issue elsewhere
[23:51] <FKLinguista> There's a side-by-side comparison
[23:52] <popey> oh, thats mint
[23:53] <FKLinguista> popey: I use the MATE desktop
[23:53] <rww> on Mint
[23:53] <rww> !mintsupport
[23:53] <OerHeks> FKLinguista, good last comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango-graphite/+bug/1166125
[23:54] <OerHeks> libgraphite3 should be removed from any dependencies and from the repos. The replacement (libgraphite2-3, yeh I know it's a funny order) integrates with harfbuzz-ng"
[23:54] <popey> FKLinguista: i just installed the doulos Sil font on ubuntu 14.04 and it looks fine..
[23:54] <popey> (in libreoffice writer)
[23:54] <FKLinguista> I had doulos installed before and it wasn't broken
[23:54] <FKLinguista> in attempt to have graphite fonts more supported, I installed both pango-graphite and libgraphite3 to see if it would improve
[23:55] <OerHeks> i see libgraphite2-3 installed on my system, see if you still have libgraphite3, even you removed pango-graphite
[23:55] <FKLinguista> I recently purged both packages
[23:55] <OerHeks> maybe put 2-3 back ?
[23:55] <FKLinguista> OerHeks 2-3 was never removed
[23:56] <FKLinguista> I think it must have broken another package
[23:56] <FKLinguista> Maybe there are other packages I have to reinstall