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ranticHi everyone, I attempted to add a user to a group and accidently wiped out their sudo access. The root account seems to be disabled by default on Xubuntu and using the grub recovery option by holding shift isn't working. Any ideas?01:24
ranticI've tried tapping / holding shift constantly through the boot process, booting a live cd to edit sudoers and still no dice.01:25
KM0201how do you restore the applications menu to it's default?  Somehow it's gotten all jacked up01:26
ranticKM0201: I'm not 100% on this but try renaming your ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu01:29
ranticit _should_ generate a new one based on the default skeleton01:29
KM0201ok01:30
KM0201thanks01:30
KM0201hmm, i don't have that directory.01:31
ranticKM0201: Do you have /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu01:32
KM0201it was undder ~/.config/menus01:34
KM0201seems to have done the trick01:34
KM0201i'm still messing a couple of menus though.01:34
KM0201weird01:34
rantictry copying /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu to the file that was in your ~/.config/menus file01:36
KM0201k, let me see something real quick01:38
KM0201brb01:38
KM0201well, its better, but i'm still missing my accessories menu for somereason01:41
KM0201man, the menu editing tool really sucks.01:42
KM0201i wonder if i could boot the live CD, and pull the menu off of it?01:43
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yell0wi'm on xubuntu 12.04. I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html but hibernate still does not work from the menu. pm-hibernate works from terminal. any suggestions ?08:31
yell0wi'm on xubuntu 12.04. I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html but hibernate still does not work from the menu. pm-hibernate works from terminal. any suggestions ?08:38
brainwashyell0w: open a terminal window and run "xfce4-session-logout --hibernate"08:40
brainwashif it fails, it should print some error message08:41
yell0wbrainwash: failed to hibernate session, not authorized08:42
brainwashso, the file /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla exists and its content it OK too?08:45
yell0wyes08:45
brainwashplease pastebin the output of "upower -d" also08:46
yell0wbrainwash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8138871/08:48
brainwashthe 2nd and 3rd rule (login1) are only needed for Ubuntu 13.10 or newer08:50
yell0wbrainwash: i did google the error and found a few things on the forums and so i tried08:51
brainwashbut still, not sure why you are not authorized to hibernate the system08:51
yell0wyes very weird08:51
yell0wdo you have to be in certain group ?08:51
brainwashdon't think so08:55
brainwashyell0w: did you relog at least once? policy changes should take effect immediately.. but who knows08:57
yell0wbrainwash: i've had that policy file on there since last 2/3 reboots08:58
brainwashyell0w: you can trigger hibernate directly via dbus call, simply run "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate"09:02
brainwashlets see if this prints some error09:02
yell0wbrainwash: Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized09:05
xubuntu848What skype file shud i use to install skype ? there are diferents files on the skype site.09:07
yell0wxubuntu848: enable -partner and install from apt ?09:08
brainwashyell0w: not sure, how to debug this further, sorry :/09:08
yell0whaha thanks brainwash09:08
brainwashyell0w: you could consider upgrading to 14.04... but that's an ugly solution09:09
xubuntu848Yelløv maybe the easy way.. but i am confused peoiples tell my diferents way and sometimes it not working.09:09
xubuntu848So i can finde it in softwarecenter if i enable -partner ?09:09
yell0wbrainwash: are all the bugs kinked out yet ?09:10
yell0wxubuntu848: yes, should be09:10
xubuntu848is that also for lubuntu ? i use both.09:10
yell0wthat's how i installed mine09:10
brainwashyell0w: not quite yet, do you have any specific bug in mind?09:11
yell0wbrainwash: well i've generally waited a while till all the kinks are worked out before i upgrade :)09:12
yell0wbrainwash: i don't remember specifically but i've always had to work around things after upgrading09:13
yell0whahaha09:13
yell0wnot for this then that :)09:13
brainwashyell0w: these things never change, luckily we got workarounds for almost every bug :P09:13
yell0wbrainwash: haha yes that's the good thing about it09:14
yell0wi was upgrading every 6 months from dapper09:14
yell0wthen lts from lucid09:15
yell0wand now i wait a bit for the lts to solidify lol :P09:15
brainwashthe first point release of Xubuntu 14.04 is already available -> 14.04.109:16
yell0wyeah i saw that when i login here09:16
yell0wi think i'm gonna go for it when i have a bit spare time09:17
cfhowlettyell0w, sudo do-release-upgrade for in-place upgrade or do a torrent to get the 14.04.1 ISO09:18
yell0wcfhowlett: will do09:19
yell0wthanks :)09:19
yell0wwell i'm off for now09:22
xubuntu718ciao a tutti09:42
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keeper_19_86hi, i hope i don't annoy any of you by asking such a trivial thing, but maybe one of you guys was bothered by the same issue and could help me: I want my desktop symbols to not be that close to the titlebar. Somehow the grit seems to have changed ... does any body know if and where i can define something like a "top-spacing" or "top-distance" for the desktop symbols?10:18
james0rkeeper_19_86, by desktop symbols do you mean the icons for windows that you've opened?10:19
keeper_19_86no i mean the symbols on the desktop for filesystem, home etc.10:20
james0rkeeper_19_86, and the space between the highest icon and the top panel has increased somehow? is the space as big as an icon, like space is being reserved for an icon but there is nothing there?10:21
keeper_19_86no the space has decreased somehow (while the distance between the symbols remained the same): http://postimg.org/image/fpwnnqqwt/10:24
keeper_19_86on the left of the image you see as it was before, and on the right as it looks now ...10:25
james0rkeeper_19_86, looks like for some reason the desktop isn't noticing the panel and offsetting accordingly10:27
james0rkeeper_19_86, what happens if you run 'xfce4-panel -r' ?10:28
keeper_19_86that did end (crash?) xchat somehow but the symbols are still at the same position ...10:30
james0rkeeper_19_86, probably just xchat's systray icon isn't visible, you'll have to reload xchat to get that back.10:30
james0rkeeper_19_86, try 'sudo killall xfdesktop' it should automatically restart the desktop10:30
keeper_19_86okay brb10:31
keeper_19_86wow ...10:32
keeper_19_86james0r, it worked!!!10:32
james0rkeeper_19_86, most likely the order of the xfdesktop loading initially is the problem10:32
james0rkeeper_19_86, unfortunately I have no idea how you order that but maybe someone can jump in? :)10:32
james0rkeeper_19_86, i take it you've logged out and back in and this behavior persisted right?10:33
keeper_19_86james0r, would be great. Thank you very for your help :)10:33
james0rkeeper_19_86, yeah you can always add a line to kill the desktop and time it a few seconds after log in. a little sloppy of a workaround but it should work10:33
keeper_19_86okay great :) - the behaviour is/was like that for a long time now (after a session crashed)10:34
james0rkeeper_19_86, my only guess would be that when that crash happened the session was saved and threw the order out of whack10:35
keeper_19_86james0r, i'll try a logout/login now :)10:38
keeper_19_86james0r, seems like i have to write it in a startup script ;-)10:42
james0rkeeper_19_86, any luck?10:46
keeper_19_86james0r, after login it was the same problem. Now i've added the command (sudo killall xf...) to be executed on startup (i was afraid it would annoy me with the password for sudo - but it didnt) - now it works like charm :) :) :)10:47
keeper_19_86james0r, session-startup to be exact :)10:48
james0rkeeper_19_86, cool glad that worked. you have permissions for the desktop anyway if sudo didn't work.10:49
keeper_19_86james0r, again thank you very much. Now i have a system as flawless as never before in 15 years of PC-(Work)-Experience10:50
keeper_19_86james0r, *happy* ;-)10:50
james0rkeeper_19_86, haha awesome. i don't think that spacing is "minor" at all. that would bug the crap out of me10:51
james0ri'm having some issues with my theme making the whisker menu icon and window button icons really small. when i get some time i wanna tweak that because that even bugs me heh10:51
keeper_19_86haha seriously? glad to see that i'm not the only one who gets disturbed by details like that :D10:52
james0rhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16833274/Screenshot%20-%2008252014%20-%2005%3A52%3A31%20PM.png10:52
james0ryou can see there a little bit smaller than the systray icons. depending on the theme i'm using they can end up really small or take up the entire height of the panel almost10:53
james0ri'll save that one for a very rainy day :)10:54
keeper_19_86james0r, nice :) - i even talked to the creator of the whisker menu, if he would implement that the keywords are used by the menu search (so that if i type "FTP" i'll get filezilla as a result)10:55
pauloCan i upgrade my xubuntu 12.04.3 LTS to the new release (14.04) via update manager without problems???10:55
knomepaulo, most upgrades should not have problems, but take backups before you upgrade10:56
paulomy specific question is: in the update manager it is mentioned Ubuntu...i don want Unity, i want Xubuntu!! Is it possible, updating directly from there?10:57
keeper_19_86james0r, :D at my last "rainy day session" i changed some of the colorful tray icons to be white, just like the battery or wifi icon ;-)11:01
knomepaulo, the upgrade manager will only upgrade the packages you have, not install new ones (unless they are needed by the packages that you have installed)11:06
pauloOk, so, it will upgrade the 14.04 but xfce, wich is the packages i have!! Correct?11:09
knomepaulo, yes.11:09
knomepaulo, xubuntu uses the ubuntu core, which is why "ubuntu" is mentioned.11:09
pauloone thing more, 12.04 will continue to be supported, it continue with updates?11:10
knomepaulo, until april 2015, yes. there will be more updates on some of the core packages for that, but not the xfce/xubuntu-specific ones11:11
paulowhat do you recommend me? To stay with 12.04 or to upgrade to 14.04? I am new in Linux...11:12
knomepaulo, i would upgrade to 14.04 before april 2015.11:12
pauloand through the update manager, it is a good way to upgrade?11:13
knomeit's just as good as anything else11:14
knomebut as i said: take backups before you upgrade11:14
knomeit *is* possible that the upgrade fails, and you want to have your important files safe if that happens11:14
paulook, so at last, to xubuntu it wont be more updates in 12.04, correct?11:16
knomeafter april 2015, no xfce/xubuntu-specific packages will be updated.11:17
pauloI have had some problems on boot the system... this can not be related to the failure to date to 14.04, right?11:21
knomepaulo, it's impossible to say, but i doubt11:22
paulook, knome. thnk you very much!11:25
garandilIs there any way to map the Windows key to have the same behavior as in Windows and bring up the "start menu" ?11:29
knomegarandil, try adding a shortcut to xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu or -whiskermenu11:30
garandilknome, thanks, whiskermenu was what I was looking for11:33
brainwashgarandil: but this will interfere with other <super> keyboard shortcuts11:37
garandilbrainwash, I aint using any other shortcuts that uses that key11:37
brainwashshould be fine then :)11:38
garandilAnd one more thing, are there any repercussions to remove swap? I got 12GB RAM and never touch swap, but it takes up precious diskspace11:39
brainwashwhat about hibernating the system? this also requires a swap partition11:40
garandilAh, so there are effects11:41
garandilDidnt think about that11:41
brainwashyou can create a swap file instead, but I'm not sure if hibernate will continue to work or how it allocates the disk space (dynamically?)11:44
garandilAny good source on how to make deb files from source ?12:00
knomegarandil, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/12:01
garandilthanks12:02
koegscheckinstall is also nice, but not meant for distributing deb-files12:02
mbwecould somebody tell me where i could find the default package list which comes with the install medium12:50
deshipumbwe: it's a little bit complex, basically all the packages on which xubuntu-desktop depends12:51
deshipumbwe: and their dependencies in turn12:51
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koegsmbwe: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04.1/release/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.manifest13:23
mbwethanks koegs and deshipu13:23
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KlubuntuWhat is the big differnents between Xubuntu and Lubuntu ? except lubuntu have lower systemrequirements ?14:47
cfhowlett!flavors | Klubuntu14:48
ubottuKlubuntu: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.14:48
KlubuntuHow to find out what is best for me ? i like both..14:49
GridCubeKlubuntu, get both isos, boot them up into live sessions and try them14:51
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KlubuntuI have to netbooks.. use both..14:51
GridCubein this channel we will say xubuntu, in #lubuntu they'll say lubuntu14:51
Klubuntuworks fine.14:51
GridCubethen its just your desicion that matters, again, we here use xubuntu, and most of us rarely have a problem with it14:51
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KlubuntuI use xubunt on the computer with most ram. i think it is ok.14:53
GridCube:)14:54
cfhowlettKlubuntu, lubuntu is optimized for low spec / legacy hardware.  xubuntu is not optimized but is also well-regarded14:54
Klubuntuwhere can i find my skype folder ? want to delete a skype name.15:03
cfhowlettKlubuntu, /home/.skype15:04
KlubuntuIt is not working. nothing happens../home/.skype15:05
cfhowlettKlubuntu, /home/.skype is not a command.  you asked where the file is.  that's where the file is.15:06
KlubuntuI found.. it was hidden.. thank you.15:06
KlubuntuIf i need to find other softwares is it needed to mark Canonical partners and Canonical partners (source code)both of them ?15:22
baizonKlubuntu: source code is if you want to compile something or use the source code15:22
baizoni personally dont have it marked15:23
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xubuntu471.17:38
csenger41hello18:27
csenger41anyone could help me how to remove icons from panel Indicator Plugin?18:27
sergio-br2hey19:17
sergio-br2i'm having a problem with menulibre19:17
sergio-br2it is crashing19:17
sergio-br2the config file of menulibre is where?19:18
sergio-br2i'm having this problem:19:20
sergio-br2menulibre19:20
sergio-br2** (menulibre:24518): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-eFv18PfmFR: Connection refused19:20
sergio-br2**19:20
sergio-br2ERROR:/build/buildd/gnome-menus-3.10.1/./libmenu/gmenu-tree.c:4022:preprocess_layout_info: assertion failed: (!directory->preprocessed)19:20
sergio-br2Aborted (core dumped)19:20
brainwashbluesabre: ^19:22
brainwashsergio-br2: you should file a bug report -> "ubuntu-bug menulibre"19:27
sergio-br2i deleted the .config/menus/xfce-applications.menu19:27
sergio-br2and now it works19:28
brainwashmight take some time until bluesabre answers, maybe it's a known issue, maybe even already fixed19:28
brainwashyeah, I remember reading about problems with corrupted menu files19:28
sergio-br2brainwash, take a look: http://pastebin.com/RfUNE32k19:31
sergio-br2it has the diff from the 2 config files19:31
brainwashwhich version of menulibre?19:32
sergio-br22.0.4-119:35
brainwashok, can you please file a bug report on launchpad and attach all information you've gathered so far?19:37
sergio-br2ok19:41
brainwashthanks :)19:43
sergio-br2brainwash, it seems it already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/131066219:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1310662 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "Menulibre crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()" [Medium,Confirmed]19:59
msev_how to have xfce panel transparent while icons+text on panel are visible20:28
knomemsev_, set the alpha to 0.20:29
msev_I don't have that alpha setting in the panel preferences20:30
msev_its strange20:30
msev_I wanna have it like here: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9611/ngvc.png20:31
knomewhich xubuntu version are you running20:31
knomedo you have the xfce compositor enabled?20:32
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sergio-br2trying to install midi support to Parole, but it does not find the package.20:49
sergio-br2which package comes with  audio/x-midi-event decoder?20:50
donc3HI!!!23:24
donc3I have a problem with the microphone in my xubuntu 14.0423:24
donc3I'm want to use the micro of the headset, but it only works  the netbook micro23:25
donc3could somebody help me??23:25

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