[02:29] <dedAL0s> Hola
[02:29] <dedAL0s> alguien latino
[02:29] <Unit193> !es
[02:29] <dedAL0s> Gracuas
[02:45] <Kubu> HOla
[03:17] <Xylim> I have a new install of 14.10 going. Video hardware acceleration seems to be fine but OpenGL is reporting to be 1.2 for a game that needs 2.0. Any thoughts?
[03:20] <Xylim> Oops, I have 14.04 not 14.10...
[03:25] <pengbisong> Gnome
[03:43] <Xylim> Is there a reason why OpenGL is at version 1.2 on Kubuntu 14.04? Am I missing an optional package?
[05:40] <BlackDevil> i want to know some alternative to truecrypt ecryption software ? do you have any idea ?
[05:40] <BlackDevil> hi to all guys
[05:40] <BlackDevil> no one ?
[05:45] <Unit193> BlackDevil: To encrypt files or the whole drive?
[05:46] <BlackDevil> Unit193 to make ecrypted container or virtual drive
[05:46] <BlackDevil> like truecrypt
[05:46] <BlackDevil> and i search something also multiplatform
[05:46] <BlackDevil> windows/linux/mac
[05:47] <Unit193> !info tc-play
[05:47] <Unit193> !info cryptsetup
[05:47] <Unit193> !encryption
[05:47] <Unit193> !info tcplay
[06:04] <rostam> HI I want to create a local repo of some debian packages with their dependencies what tool would be the best and easiest to do this task? thanks
[06:07] <valorie> hmmm, there is a way to make some local repos
[06:07] <Unit193> I'm lazy and use mini-dinstall, but there's also reprepro.
[06:07] <valorie> https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository
[06:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:18] <lordievader> valorie: Reprepro is nice :)
[06:18] <valorie> I will such things to those who need them
[06:19] <valorie> I mean, leave such things
[06:19] <valorie> !info reprepro
[06:19] <valorie> cool
[06:19] <lordievader> Ah, rostam was the asker... +1 for reprepro ;)
[06:20] <lordievader> Lets see if I can find that guide about signed repo's.
[06:20] <valorie> !repositories
[06:23] <lordievader> rostam: http://blog.jonliv.es/2011/04/26/creating-your-own-signed-apt-repository-and-debian-packages/
[06:24] <lordievader> Signed repo gets rid of annoying 'this repo is untrusted' errors.
[06:33] <rostam> thank your for the help. I am planning to use info to create a personalized  debian repo.  the repo will be accessed from a remote site through apt-get command.
[09:02] <ropeist> Hi,
[09:02] <ropeist> I have a question about Skype 4.3 (repository version).
[09:02] <ropeist> I'm using Kubuntu 14.04.1 on two notebooks. The first one is a workstation with the 64bit version, the other one is a less powerful netbook with the 32bit version.
[09:02] <ropeist> On the 32bit installation, Skype looks just fine, well integrated with KDE by it's oxygen looks.
[09:02] <ropeist> However, the 64bit installation is not that nice. That is also the case for normal Ubuntu installations, and users are recommended to install gtk2-engines-murrine:i386 gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386. That makes Skype look prettier, however, it's still not as nice as the 32bit OS version, it does not look like a native Qt application.
[09:02] <ropeist> Does anyone have a suggestion this? I suppose I need to install some GUI libs' 32bit version besides the 64bit ones.
[09:02] <unopaste> ropeist you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:52] <Ossido> Good morning BluesKaj
[09:53] <Ossido> I have found a workaround for my problem with gtk fonts, which was actually the composition of two different problems, it seems
[09:53] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Ossido
[09:54] <Ossido> for starters, if I set the theme to oxygen-gtk, I can't change the font, which is set to Ubuntu 9
[09:54] <Ossido> but if the theme is Oxygen-Molecule, then it obeys the settings
[09:55] <Ossido> on top of this, there seems to be a problem in the way the fonts are rendered, but only in some applications (not Firefox, for example)
[09:55] <hateball> Time to ditch non-qt apps! ;D
[09:56] <Ossido> so that all fonts show up more or less randomly as one of four options (that look like Free mono, Free Sans, Free Serif and some variations of boldness and italics)
[09:56] <Ossido> as a temporary workaround, I have set up a font that looks good and also shows up as a different but not hideous font in the faulty programs
[09:57] <Ossido> but there is something wrong in all this
[09:58] <hateball> Ossido: have you tried livebooting 14.04? I find it strange that I have things by default that you could not even install
[09:58] <hateball> just to check if things like kde-config-gtk etc are on the liveboot
[09:58] <BluesKaj> sounds like you received a partial install of the fonts, qt and gtk
[09:59] <Ossido> yes
[09:59] <Ossido> what could I do about it?
[10:00] <BluesKaj> almost as if you upgraded the OS without upgrading the packages first
[10:00] <Ossido> but I did
[10:00] <BluesKaj> so it's too late now
[10:01] <Ossido> the upgrade was plagued by a problem with one of the latex packages, though
[10:01] <BluesKaj> you may have updated , but forgot to upgrade and dist-upgrade , a common mistake
[10:02] <Ossido> I did everything from muon
[10:02] <Ossido> first upgraded the packages
[10:03] <Ossido> then clicked on the notice that offered the installation of the 14.04
[10:05] <Ossido> do you think I should purge some part of the gtk/fonts and reinstall it, BluesKaj?
[10:07] <MoonUnit`> nasty DMA problem it your using ubuntu kernels 3.16 and 3.17, alloc_contig_range kernel errors.
[10:07] <MoonUnit`> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2014-August/065842.html
[10:07] <MoonUnit`> hopefully cma=0 in grub will solve it for now, it's been plaguing in for ages.
[10:08] <Ossido> in any case, forgetting the fonts for now. The wireless connection sometimes forgets to auto-connect to my home wifi
[10:08] <Ossido> but this is a bit random
[10:09] <Ossido> I have set it to autoconnect, but it does so only some times
[10:09] <BluesKaj> i have never trusted a package manager to upgrade my OS since 2006, when adept messed things up .. Ossido personally I would back all my data to another drive if possible and do a toyal clean install ..think you will continue to have problems otherwise
[10:09] <BluesKaj> total
[10:09] <Ossido> well, I suspect you are right, but I won't do it now
[10:10] <Ossido> I need my computer tomorrow for work, and I'll do this only with the guidance of somebody who knows better than me
[10:11] <Ossido> one thing. How do I export all my settings and preferences to a clean install?
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Ossido, and create a / and /home partitions before installing cleam
[10:11] <BluesKaj> err clean
[10:11] <Ossido> I've always found that kde lacks a good tool to export settings
[10:12] <BluesKaj> whenever you have the time of course
[10:12] <Ossido> can I just brutally copy my ~/.conf, ~/.kde and such, and paste them on a clean install?
[10:12] <Ossido> or would it mess up?
[10:13] <Ossido> I've lots of things I don't want to lose, here. years of mail and calendars in Kontact, logs in Kopete and Quassel...
[10:13] <BluesKaj> dunno
[10:15] <Ossido> well, I'll try in a couple of months. I'm too busy for now
[10:15] <Ossido> and I've already lost 3 full days of my holidays going after this
[10:18] <lordievader> Ossido: All of your settings should be in your kde profile, however to be sure I'd simply backup the entire /home.
[10:19] <Ossido> yes, that is what I would do. Backup /home, format everything, reinstall fresh, and plug back my old /home
[10:19] <Ossido> you say this would work?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> well maybe an upgrade to 14.10 when it's released in Oct will solve your problems if you use the terminal rather then muon os the software package manager to upgrade
[10:20] <Ossido> that's a possibility
[10:20] <Ossido> maybe I'll try that one, before
[10:20] <Ossido> so, you say never to upgrade with muon?
[10:21] <kbroulik> I don't
[10:21] <Ossido> I'll remember it
[10:21] <BluesKaj> it may work for some setups but my perdoanal experience wasn't a good one
[10:21] <kbroulik> BluesKaj: same here
[10:22] <kbroulik> If I need to search for packages I use Apper. Everything else (especially updates/upgrades) I do on the terminal
[10:23] <Ossido> I've upgraded many times with Kubuntu. I've used it continuously since Feisty (not on the same computer)
[10:23] <Ossido> almost every upgrade has given me some little problem, but this one is the worst by far
[10:24] <BluesKaj> packag managers are a good reference for info about packages and individual packages usually install fine , I just wouldn't use it to upgrade to a new OS
[10:25] <kbroulik> the first upgrade I did was when I switched to kubuntu from jaunty to karmic which broke everything (I used the gui tool). since then I never had issues when upgrading using the terminal. Even from production to alpha releases and the like
[10:39] <trew_100> hi all
[10:39] <trew_100> i need help
[10:40] <BluesKaj> hi trew_100, just ask your question
[10:40] <trew_100> i'm on kubuntu 14.04.01 and my mic not work
[10:41] <hateball> What sort of mic is it, how is it connected, and what application are you using to test?
[10:41] <trew_100> i search in google but i d'ont find somesing wrk for me
[10:42] <trew_100> hateball: amm build in computer
[10:43] <trew_100> i try with skype and audacity
[10:45] <hateball> trew_100: Does the device not show at all, or does it behave like it is muted?
[10:46] <hateball> trew_100: What audio chipset is this?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> trew_100, do the other audio sources work ok ?
[11:01] <okero> hello !
[11:02] <trew_100> BluesKaj: no
[11:03] <lordievader> okero: o/
[11:03] <trew_100> Just what token embedded into computer
[11:03] <okero> how i can change dl speed on ktorrent ?
[11:04] <trew_100> okero: for one torrent?
[11:04] <okero> yes and all
[11:04] <okero> limit for dl and up
[11:05] <BluesKaj> trew_100, open a terminal and type alsamixer, make sure automute is disabled and your mic input and volume ctrls are turned up
[11:06] <trew_100> okero: settings >> configuare ktorrent >> network
[11:06] <trew_100> BluesKaj: in turn up
[11:07] <BluesKaj> okero, ktorrent settings>configure ktorrent >network
[11:08] <trew_100> BluesKaj: but automute is enabled and i can't to chenge it
[11:08] <BluesKaj> trew_100, use the up down arrow keys
[11:09] <trew_100> BluesKaj: ok changed
[11:09] <okero> thx BluesKaj
[11:09] <okero> & trew_100
[11:10] <BluesKaj> okero, yw
[11:11] <okero> is there a better client than ktorrent to limit each up like µtorrent ?
[11:11] <trew_100> BluesKaj: still mic don't work
[11:11] <hateball> you can do that in ktorrent as well okero
[11:12] <hateball> okero: or you can try qbittorrent
[11:12] <hateball> or even transmission, which has a qt frontend
[11:12] <trew_100> okero: or µtorrent for linux
[11:13] <BluesKaj> trew_100, but you have to run utorrent in wine
[11:14] <BluesKaj> I mean okero
[11:17] <BluesKaj> trew_100, I'll ask again, do any other audio sources work ?
[11:18] <trew_100> BluesKaj: Headphones
[11:19] <BluesKaj> what about web audio and music from files etc over your speakers
[11:21] <BluesKaj> trew_100, and is the mic on the headset?
[11:22] <jubo2> I wish there was a "bring all windows of this program to the top of the window stack"-button in the GUI.. It'd be really handy that one could get all terminal windows to front with 2 clicks
[11:22] <trew_100> BluesKaj: There is music from the web, the computer plays music headphones not speakers
[11:22] <jubo2> instead of clicking each one separately
[11:33] <hateball> jubo2: If you group them I think you can achieve that
[11:33] <hateball> also you can set rules for automatic grouping
[11:38] <jubo2> hateball: where do I group them ?
[11:45] <hateball> jubo2: well it's more tabbing than "grouping", not sure what you need :)
[11:46] <hateball> meh
[11:54] <bipul> Hello I was trying to install Kubuntu , through USB pendrive, but when i try to install i went inside tty mode. how to get GUI Mode
[11:54] <bipul> can anyone help me?
[11:55] <hateball> bipul: ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X, if thats your problem
[11:55] <lordievader> bipul: Press ctrl + alt + f7
[11:56] <bipul> hateball:  lordievader Yes i know this command, but it's not working at all.
[11:56] <hateball> or if that doesnt work, you could "sudo service lightdm restart"
[11:59] <lordievader> Has X crashed???
[11:59] <bipul> seems though
[12:00] <hateball> It happens rather often for me when livebooting
[12:00] <bipul> GUI pop out for a second then again it drop me into shell (tty)
[12:00] <bipul> Yes i am booting it live
[12:00] <bipul> via pendrive. Is it a bug? should i report this issue?
[12:00] <hateball> bipul: Restarting lightdm makes it pop up and die?
[12:00] <bipul> yes
[12:00] <hateball> bleh
[12:01] <bipul> hateball: I think it's bug?
[12:01] <hateball> you could try booting with nomodeset and such options
[12:01] <hateball> Yes
[12:03] <bipul> hateball: so it's bug? then let me report it
[12:07] <bipul> I can't even report this issue too
[12:08] <bipul> I don't know what to do? anyidea?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> bipul, did you use unetbootin to create the image ?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> or startup disk ?
[12:14] <bipul> BluesKaj: I used startup disk from my ubuntu 14.04
[12:16] <hateball> bipul: When you boot, press F6 and try using the nomodeset option, as well remove "quiet splash" from the bootline
[12:17] <bipul> ok let me try
[12:40] <mirty> hi, is it possible to develop against neon iso in a VM?
[12:40] <lordievader> mirty: Develop against, what do you mean exactly?
[12:40] <ikonia> mirty: neo iso ?
[12:40] <mirty> neon iso
[12:41] <ikonia> what's neon iso ?
[12:41] <mirty> use the iso for developing apps
[12:41] <lordievader> ikonia: I suppose he is talking about the plasma5 iso.
[12:41] <mirty> http://files.kde.org/snapshots/
[12:41] <mirty> yes
[12:41] <ikonia> lordievader: I have  no idea
[12:41] <mirty> is it possible to install the devel packages in the VM?
[12:41] <ikonia> mirty: running from an iso will be hard to develop against as all the file systems are in ram
[12:42] <lordievader> mirty: But yes, I suppose you can develop inside a vm.
[12:42] <ikonia> mirty:an iso is not a vm
[12:42] <ikonia> mirty: an iso runs in ram
[12:42] <mirty> iso is not a vm that's right
[12:42] <lordievader> mirty: IMO, it would be better to set up a dedicated development machine.
[12:42] <ikonia> mirty: where does this question fit into kubuntu ?
[12:43] <mirty> ikonia: project neon is from kubuntu
[12:43] <mirty> sorry if it's not
[12:43] <ikonia> neon is kde not kubuntu
[12:44] <mirty> so I should not enquire further here?
[12:44] <ikonia> maybe worth talking to #kde as that iso is provided by kde not kubuntu
[12:45] <lordievader> ikonia: Project Neon is maintained by the Kubuntu team: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:46] <ikonia> lordievader: I'm sure it's maintained
[12:46] <ikonia> but it's not kubuntu
[12:46] <mirty> I thought it was though
[12:46] <ikonia> maybe I'm wrong then
[12:46] <ikonia> I thought it was part of the KDE project, not kubuntu
[12:47] <mirty> KDE does not package
[12:47] <mirty> only provides tarballs
[12:47] <ikonia> mirty: you've just linked to an iso from the kde website....
[12:47] <ikonia> that is kde
[12:47] <mirty> yes so?
[12:47] <ikonia> so youu're using a source/instance provided by the kde project
[12:47] <lordievader> I've just asked in #kubuntu-devel, lets see what they say ;)
[12:47] <ikonia> not something provided by kubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> lordievader: good call
[12:48] <mirty> provided by kubuntu on a kde host
[12:48] <ikonia> mirty: no
[12:48] <mirty> anyway, just tell me to leave
[12:48] <ikonia> no no, thats not the intention at all
[12:48] <mirty> although the ISO is KUbuntu desktop
[12:49] <mirty> hence the right to ask questions here
[12:51] <bipul> NOPS
[12:51] <bipul> it's not working.
[12:52] <ikonia> damn, he's gone
[12:56] <rostam> hi I would like to download a debian package with all its dependencies to a particular directory(without installation). How could I do this? thanks
[12:56] <BluesKaj> thinks when there isn't alot of activity in here a question slightly offtopic is acceptable
[12:58] <tsimpson> !aptoncd
[12:58] <ikonia> rostam: just to be clear a debian package designed for kubuntu ?
[12:58] <tsimpson> rostam: there's ^ that or you can do it manually
[12:58] <ikonia> rostam: or a debian package that is generic/for debian
[13:00] <rostam> ikonia, generic packages which also included kubuntu (I think...)
[13:00] <ikonia> rostam: this sounds questionable
[13:01] <ikonia> rostam: where are you trying to get these packages from ?
[13:01] <rostam> ikonia, I am trying to create my own private repo.
[13:02] <ikonia> rostam: right, but you're obviously putting debs in it
[13:02] <ikonia> where are you getting the debs ?
[13:02] <rostam> yes debs
[13:02] <rostam> oh sorry I missed your question.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> think aptitude download would be the method to use
[13:03] <rostam> I get the debs from us.archive.ubuntu
[13:03] <ikonia> rostam: ok, cool, so they are ubuntu debs
[13:04] <rostam> ikonia, yes they are ubuntu
[13:04] <ikonia> just checking
[13:04] <ikonia> didin't want you to download things that can cause a problem
[13:04] <rostam> ikonia, so what is your recommendation ?
[13:04] <ikonia> rostam: for what ?
[13:05] <rostam> ikonia, my original question was to download deb packages with its dependencies.
[13:05] <ikonia> rostam: you've been given 2 good options
[13:07] <odin> hello guys. I have Kubuntu 14.04. I want to disable the top left hotspot. But the Screen Edges application doesn't work
[13:07] <BluesKaj> just read that apt-get download works too
[13:07] <rostam> ikonia,  I think one was suggested is: aptitude download,  can not find the one..
[13:08] <tsimpson> 'apt-get --download-only install ...' works too
[13:08] <tsimpson> everything gets downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/ in that case
[13:08] <rostam> okay great thank you for your great suggestions.
[13:09] <ikonia> it you're building a mirror why not apt-mirror or rerepo
[13:09] <ikonia> rerepro
[13:10] <odin> the problem is althougth I have disabled actions for this corner  the applications are minimized when I put the mouse in this corner
[13:10] <rostam> ikonia, apt-mirror creates a big volume which i do not have space for it in the field. I need a subset which satisfy the packages I need.
[13:15] <odin> the only workaround  I have found is to disable desktop effects
[13:16] <odin> Does anyone have a suggestion to fix it?
[13:19] <mcstr__> any YAD experts here?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> YAD ?
[13:30] <odin> Is there people with the same problem?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !LVM
[13:42] <odin>  Another question. How can I activate HDMI sound?
[13:49] <odin> I don't know the reason but output audio via HDMI sound doesn't work. Can anyone help me with this problem?
[13:54] <hateball> odin: iirc I had to activate display out over hdmi for audio to work on an intel chipset I had
[13:54] <BluesKaj> odin, which graphics ?
[13:54] <odin> nvidia
[13:54] <hateball> that is ootb, without hacking around with pulseaudio manually
[13:55] <odin> GeForce GT 525M
[13:56] <odin> Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[13:56] <hateball> odin: Are you using nvidia driver or noeuvau?
[13:56] <odin> nvidia driver
[13:56] <odin> the default in kubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:56] <odin> the volume is activated in kmix
[13:57] <BluesKaj> yeah pulse should have a settings option for hdmi audio out in pavucontrol , installing pavucontrol will help with that
[13:57] <odin> ok
[13:57] <odin> thanks
[15:25] <MichaelP> kubuntu 14.10 kde 4.14 plasma 5... after installed plasma 5 power management configuration module not be loaded... The power management service apears not to be running... ..system seetting startup and shutdown.. background services.. says power management is running...  but under power management it is gray out
[15:25] <lordievader> !crosspost | MichaelP
[15:26] <lordievader> MichaelP: Is dbus running?
[15:29] <MichaelP> lordievader: how do i tell
[15:30] <lordievader> MichaelP: "service dbus status"
[15:31] <MichaelP> lordievader: dbus start/running, process 777
[15:36] <lordievader> MichaelP: Is upower installed? (Not sure if it is needed, don't have a kubuntu machine within reach)
[15:38] <MichaelP> ps -e | grep upower    1505 ?        00:00:00 upowerd
[15:39] <lordievader> MichaelP: apt-cache policy upower
[15:39] <MichaelP> Is there a config file where i can control the screen shutting off
[15:39] <lordievader> !paste | MichaelP
[15:42]  * genii sips and ponders /etc/UPower/UPower.conf
[15:42] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, if you'd like you can test a new plasma5 image here  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/   .... no guarantees iut will be better than the last one
[15:42] <MichaelP> http://paste2.org/2cZ9MAPF
[15:45] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: is that the Project Neon
[15:46] <TBotNik> All: Have networking problem documented at: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66222-Networking&p=356977#post356977
[15:46] <TBotNik> Need some help on this please!
[15:46] <lordievader> MichaelP: Is the powermanagement service running?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, no
[15:46] <lordievader> MichaelP: Wait, are you on 14.10?
[15:47] <MichaelP> yes
[15:47] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, report the results here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/322/builds
[15:48] <lordievader> MichaelP: 14.10 support is in #ubuntu+1.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, you really should join #kubuntu-devel if you're testing Kubuntu 14.10
[15:59] <TBotNik> No one available to help on a non-connected networking problem?
[16:02] <lordievader> TBotNik: Your networking got corrupted, what do you mean with that?
[16:11] <TBotNik> lordievader: Did you read the forum post?
[16:14] <genii> Well, your first problem was using the sysvinit networking startup call instead of the upstart one, that's why you never got any response from it.
[16:14] <genii> !offline
[16:31] <lordievader> TBotNik: Yes, and to be honest I didn't really understand it, hence the question.
[16:35] <TBotNik> lordievader: Guess my explaination of "corrupted" where it quit working, always came back "FAILED" but nothing in the logs to be able to diagnose from, wasn't complete?
[16:36] <lordievader> TBotNik: Well nevermind. Do you use the network manger or do you configure your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:36] <genii> TBotNik: As I explained just earlier, you were doing: /etc/init.d/networking restart      which is incorrect.
[16:37] <TBotNik> lordievader: Since I have no log entries or errors, knew the code was corrupt because logs would not be blank!  That's why I purged it and now, without connection has to re-install.  As for NM vs manual, have done both, since NM does not support iwlwifi6 driver!
[16:38] <lordievader> TBotNik: Can you pastebin your current config?
[16:39] <genii> When any daemon has things in both /etc/init and /etc/init.d  the /etc/init  one gets executed first and the /etc/init.d one never gets run. So if it's already running from upstart trying to start it from directly running the sysvinit script in /etc/init.d cannot work
[16:39] <TBotNik> Let me see will have to copy anything to flash to upload to PB, with purge not sure if files are gone!
[16:43] <TBotNik> lordievader: you mean the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[16:43] <TBotNik> lordievader: That is still there, so can copy to flash etc!
[16:44] <lordievader> TBotNik: What is it exactly that you nuked with your 'purge'?
[16:45] <TBotNik> lordievader: Not sure!
[16:46] <lordievader> TBotNik: Ok, what did you do exactly when you 'purged' things?
[16:58] <TBotNik> lordievader: Dang found the problem and working again over there on laptop again.  Purge did nothing but bad config for CloneZilla was knocking it out.  Commented that out, restarted networking and now going.  Still have to test WiFi, but hopeful on that also!
[16:59] <TBotNik> Obviously purge did not yank all networking as I thought!
[16:59] <TBotNik> lordievader: Still wonder why no log entries at all?
[17:00] <lordievader> I still have no idea what you have done to cause it, or fix it for that matter.
[17:00] <TBotNik> lordievader: You probably don't care anymore but interfaces file posted at: http://pastebin.com/hEGiS6A9
[17:01] <TBotNik> lordievader: Kudos for making me go back over it one more time, finding the error and fixing it!
[17:03] <TBotNik> lordievader: Still having "localhost" issues but should be on Apache side or should post at #httpd
[17:03] <lordievader> TBotNik: Localhost issues?
[17:06] <TBotNik> lordievader: Yeah internet working but dev side under "localhost" not working.  The interfaces file says "auto lo: iface lo inet loopback" do I need to change this to "auto localhost: iface localhost inet loopback"?
[17:10] <TBotNik> lordievader: OK ran "service apache2 restart" and getting "Fail" from that! Gotta start looking at logs
[17:15] <lordievader> TBotNik: To your first question, as it was in the paste is correct.
[17:15] <lordievader> TBotNik: Is apache listening on 127.0.0.1?
[17:18] <TBotNik> lordievader: OK ran "service apache2 restart" and getting "Fail" from that! Gotta start looking at logs.  Have no log file entries running "tail /var/log/apache2/error.log"  Latest log entries in error.log.1 from Mon Aug 18
[17:21] <TBotNik> lordievader: Did not have "listen" installed, so installing!
[17:21] <lordievader> TBotNik: That ain't strange, apache fails to start ;)
[17:21] <lordievader> It usually tells you why.
[17:22] <lordievader> TBotNik: Listen is not a command. Daemons listen to ports (and interfaces).
[17:23] <TBotNik> lordievader: While listen is installing ran ping on 127.0.0.1 and it pings just fine
[17:23] <lordievader> TBotNik: Maybe you should read up on how TCP works.
[17:24] <TBotNik> lordievader: BRB have to take care of something, maybe 1/2 hour!
[17:47] <TBotNik_> lordievader: Put "listen 80" results at: http://pastebin.com/mJnmCMG5
[17:49] <TBotNik> lordievader: Crap this is some kind of music listener!
[18:09] <TBotNik_> lordievader: netstat dump at: http://pastebin.com/1Uz4zpPA  show no listen on port 80, 8000 or 8080 which are the normal "localhost" ports
[18:11] <TBotNik> lordievader: What do I do to fix this?
[18:13] <lordievader> TBotNik: Could you pastebin your apache config.
[18:14] <TBotNik_> lordievader: Think it is already out there.  Let me check!
[18:18] <TBotNik_> lordievader: The last 3 files posted at: http://pastebin.com/835Fd2JF are the apache config files, but this does not include the phpmyadmin.conf file!
[18:20] <lordievader> TBotNik_: Seems allright, so what was the error again when you start apache?
[18:20] <TBotNik_> checking logs again!
[18:21] <lordievader> TBotNik_: I'm not talking about logs...
[18:21] <lordievader> TBotNik_: Run "sudo service apache2 start" and copy all the output to pastebin.
[18:28] <TBotNik_> lordievader: Got msg:=> service apache2 restart
[18:28] <TBotNik_> Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/nano.save:
[18:28] <TBotNik_> Invalid command '1', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[18:28] <TBotNik_> Action 'configtest' failed.
[18:28] <TBotNik_> The Apache error log may have more information.
[18:28] <TBotNik_>    ...fail!
[18:28] <unopaste> TBotNik_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:28] <lordievader> !paste | TBotNik_
[18:29] <lordievader> TBotNik_: Yeah, you probably want to remove that nano swap file.
[18:31] <TBotNik> lordievader: All: progress, got wired networking going, had localhost issues, now localhost see and works phpMyAdmin, but "localhost" itself give "Not Found" msg in browser.  Still debugging and need help!
[18:32] <lordievader> TBotNik: Apache works again?
[18:33] <TBotNik> lordievader: Sorta, for development have to have the default "localhost" and the aliases working, since working files which have to be correct on LH before FTP to online dirs.
[18:34] <lordievader> TBotNik: I take that as a yes. Now you can go and look in the apache error log why it is giving 404's.
[18:34] <TBotNik> lordievader: Only aliases/dir working is phpMyAdmin
[18:35] <lordievader> So it is likely that your site definition are faulty.
[18:36] <TBotNik_> lordievader: Still no listen on 127.0.0.1:80, which is why no browser display at localhost root
[18:36] <lordievader> TBotNik_: Please post the ports.conf config file.
[20:21] <TBotNik> lordievader: Kept having issues with network dropping out on laptop, so since ports.conf is same on this DT posted at:  http://pastebin.com/KDC6Ccjv
[20:22] <TBotNik> lordievader: Also fixed issue with /etc/hosts file
[20:32] <TBotNik> lordievader: In my aliases.conf only the /files alias works.  Check this out at: http://pastebin.com/835Fd2JF  Aliases.conf is last file in that post!
[20:34] <lordievader> TBotNik: Your ports.conf looks ok, what is the output of: netstat -tulpn|grep apache
[20:39] <TBotNik> lordievader: PB: http://pastebin.com/ZdidkkK8
[20:42] <TBotNik> lordievader: Definitely not listening on 127.0.0.1:80
[20:43] <lordievader> TBotNik: Actually it is.
[20:44] <lordievader> TBotNik: What do you get when you go to 127.0.0.1? Timeout?
[20:44] <TBotNik> lordievader: Browser?
[20:44] <lordievader> TBotNik: Yes.
[20:45] <TBotNik> lordievader: Immediate 404 "Not Found" msg
[20:46] <lordievader> TBotNik: Fix your vhost definitions ;)
[20:47] <TBotNik> lordievader: Whatever is pointing it to 0.0.0.0:80 instead of 127.0.0.1:80 seems to be the problem.  Looking up HOWTOs to get this set right!
[20:48] <lordievader> TBotNik: No, 0.0.0.0 mean every interface it can find.
[20:48] <lordievader> means*
[20:48] <lordievader> TBotNik: Don't jump to conclusions.
[20:49] <TBotNik> lordievader: Was just reading that HOWTO want run of "lsof -i :80" so going to see what I get!
[20:49] <lordievader> TBotNik: Are you even reading what I'm typing?
[20:51] <lordievader> Guess not, ok I'm done.
[20:51] <TBotNik_> lordievader: PB at: http://pastebin.com/Kw8993sF
[20:57] <TBotNik> lordievader: Yes, but having to go between machines, so can not respond immediately, at least not always
[20:59] <TBotNik> lordievader: "Fix your vhost definitions"  I only use the default "*:80", I do not run anyother Vhosts, since I'm not hosting.  I only run aliases, so the dev dirs/folders can run under localhost!
[21:03] <TBotNik> lordievader: All aliases were working before, and never knew what changed when a.) localhost, b.) apache aliases, c.) Networking all stopped one day about a month ago.  Been fighting to recover since.  Need my laptop on site at job, as no machine there has the full development toolset!  There are 3 parts to this problem: a.) Wired networking, b.) Apache/localhost, c.) WiFi.  We got # a fixed, now working #b, then have to fix wifi!
[21:33] <Guest73731> hello guys...i just updated to KDE 4.14 and ark is no longer working,what can i do?
[21:34] <Guest73731> it doesn't extract zip files
[21:34] <Guest73731> which is weird
[21:38] <genii> Guest73731: Does: apt-cache policy zip      ...show that the zip package is installed? ( it also provides the unzip app)
[21:39] <Guest73731> yes version 3-0.8
[21:45] <genii> I might try reinstalling ark with sudo apt-get install --reinstall ark
[21:45] <genii> Bleh, left
[22:06] <CruX|> hello
[22:06] <CruX|> Maximized windows can be moved in maximized state
[22:06] <CruX|> how can I fix that ?
[22:12] <Exagone313> CruX|: it's not a good thing for you?
[22:14] <CruX|> no
[22:14] <CruX|> i would like to disable it
[22:15] <CruX|> there was an option for that but seems in current kde it is disabled