[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[14:13] <Seshpenguin> hi
[14:55] <dholbach> Community Q&A starting on http://ubuntuonair.com in about 5m. Today we'll have David Barth talking about HTML5 in Ubuntu.
[14:57] <toor28> hi all
[14:58] <FROST_> hello from germany
[14:59] <toor28> why gemarny ? hi all :D
[15:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> heyo
[15:00] <mhall119> toor28: because Germany is awesome
[15:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I AM CHLOE HERE ME ROAR, meow... xD
[15:00] <FROST_> please wait, i must get a beer :D
[15:00] <mhall119> at least I assume it is, all I've seen is the inside of Frankfurt airport
[15:01] <nik90> dholbach: we see you
[15:01] <remon1496> its working;)
[15:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> it is work x3
[15:02] <FROST_> uhmm, very bad sound quality
[15:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> HI Popey x3
[15:03] <nik90> hello everyone
[15:03] <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[15:04] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2868/ for tracking team events
[15:04] <mhall119> hangouts killing *everybody*'s browser
[15:05] <FROST_> 1+ mhall119
[15:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: has Popey tried joining in Firefox or Chromium?
[15:06] <remon1496> is it just me or is the quility at 720p still very low?
[15:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> oh I thought popey disapered x\d
[15:06] <mhall119> dholbach: popey: talk about tomorrow's workshops
[15:06] <FROST_> hello cat :D
[15:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> KYITTY KYAT X3
[15:07] <zyga> hey :-)
[15:07] <zyga> dholbach: you've changed :>
[15:08] <m6569101303> Does Cordova+Oxide support the Grid Unit?
[15:08] <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: Anything exciting coming to the HTML5 + Javascript APIs for Ubuntu Touch / Ubuntu for Devices? I've mainly seen stuff in the mailing list for QML, Qt, etc.
[15:08] <mhall119> m6569101303: start your question with QUESTION or it might not be seen
[15:08] <m6569101303> QUESTION Does Cordova+Oxide support the Grid Unit?
[15:09] <dholbach> zyga, an experiment ;-)
[15:10] <dholbach> m6569101303, I'll direct the question at our expert once he's here - shouldn't be much longer
[15:10] <remon1496> QUESTION: is there coming a whatsapp app? written in html5 so we can use it on the desktop and the phone simetamiusly
[15:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: where could we see the new designs for Music and is there any plan for the gallery to make it suit the new look and feel and bottom edge?
[15:10] <FROST_> stream down?
[15:10] <JoshStrobl> remon1496, you know, if it was written in qml / js or qt / c++ it'd still be multi-platform
[15:10] <JoshStrobl> FROST_, no
[15:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> FROST_,  working for me
[15:11] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: Do you think that ubuntu touch lack of popular apps that would be found on the apple/google apps store will hurt the commercial launch of the operating system?
[15:12] <JoshStrobl> Knightmare_, I can watch Youtube, browse Google+, check Gmail, etc. through Ubuntu Touch.
[15:12] <remon1496> JoshStrobl good to hear, but since whatsapp is the most populiar messaging on all platforms i would like to so it on ubuntu touch/desktop as well,
[15:12] <JoshStrobl> Knightmare_, They aren't native apps, but Google doesn't even support Windows Phone.
[15:13] <mhall119> remon1496: the problem we'll have with whatsapp is they don't want it used on tablets or desktops, and our whole platform story is that you can use the same apps on all devices
[15:13] <zyga> for anyone that wants to see/learn about how some of us code, I'm recording live videos with all of the work that I'm doing on the checkbox application for Ubuntu
[15:13] <nik90> zyga: really? Where?
[15:14] <Knightmare_> JoshStrobl but the majority of users who use phones today are always moving to the next social media experiment and If they have closed software like whatsapp that will really hurt ubuntu touch's chance in my opinion.
[15:14] <zyga> nik90: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRGrmUhQo5P9hTbVskIIjoQ
[15:15] <FROST_> QUESTION: Yesterday German news portals have announced a "ChinaOS". The government in China has this been commissioned, and it will bring many new features. It is based on Ubuntu, and also be available for mobile devices. Can you confirm that? Or do you know something about this project? Or are you working on it?
[15:15] <zyga> nik90: specifically https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2PeEY58_WyemJSNEK7zN7OihTodGnqfV
[15:15] <zyga> nik90: it's mostly python but QML is showing up regularly too
[15:15] <mhall119> good luck guys, I'll be back later
[15:15] <zyga> nik90: and I expect more and more QML in episodes this week
[15:16] <nik90> zyga: ooh cool
[15:16] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What would make ubuntu touch feel successful to you? is it a failure to you if doesn't ship as many phones as windows or dare I say android, or is it successful as soon as you can do everything you could do on android on UTouch?
[15:17] <JoshStrobl> ChloeWolfieGirl, personally, if Canonical can ship as many phones to consumers as Jolla does with their device, I'd consider it a success.
[15:19] <nshiell> QUSTION: What is Ubuntu's relationship with GitHub, are Ubuntu Touch apps on gitHub etc?
[15:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> we miss kitty kyat xD
[15:20] <remon1496> byby kitty
[15:20] <nshiell> my cat used to walk over the keybaord as i typed, he wrote good code
[15:20] <remon1496> nshiell genius:P
[15:21] <zyga> QUESTION: gallery app and camera's built in gallery (which is little-known) seem redundant, what is the expected evolution of the two components
[15:21] <JoshStrobl> nshiell, Ubuntu Touch apps are available on Launchpad. GitHub is used in other projects, like Juju.
[15:21] <ChloeWolfieGirl> nshiell, +1
[15:23] <BabyWombat> hi all
[15:23] <ChloeWolfieGirl> hey BabyWombat
[15:23] <nik90> nshiell: also there are many 3rd party ubuntu touch apps available in github like https://github.com/sonrisesoftware/project-dashboard, https://github.com/Bacon2D/Bacon2D etc etc
[15:23] <remon1496> QUESTION: is html5 integrated in unity?
[15:24] <remon1496> sorry newbie
[15:24] <JoshStrobl> remon1496, HTML5 is a markup language, do you mean the Javascript APIs?
[15:24] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: When will the online accounts integrate with the native/web apps so I don't have to keep entering my credentials?
[15:25] <remon1496> JoshStrobl, yes, the API's
[15:26] <BabyWombat> when will Ubuntu browser replace Firefox?
[15:26] <m6569101303> QUESTION to HTML5 Theme devs: Have you thought to create UI components for HTML5 using polymer.js (http://www.polymer-project.org/) as a better alternative to the current ubuntu-html5-theme?
[15:26] <JoshStrobl> BabyWombat, it won't
[15:26] <BabyWombat> why not?
[15:26] <JoshStrobl> m6569101303, meh @ polymer
[15:26] <JoshStrobl> BabyWombat, why would it?
[15:27] <remon1496> BabyWombat, why replace, you can use both?
[15:27] <FROST_> QUESTION: Yesterday German news portals have announced a "ChinaOS". The government in China has this been commissioned, and it will bring many new features. It is based on Ubuntu, and also be available for mobile devices. Can you confirm that? Or do you know something about this project? Or are you working on it?
[15:28] <BabyWombat> not replace but be default
[15:28] <remon1496> FROST_, a Ubuntu based os for both desktop and phone?
[15:29] <FROST_> yes
[15:31] <kasztral> QUESTION: will we see a greater convergence between the mobile phone with the desktop (similar to what KDE are working on with kdeconnect)?
[15:31] <remon1496> FROST_ , sound interesting, but i don't think they work together with canonical
[15:32] <FROST_> Quote the newsportal: The Chinese government has developed the successor of Kylin OS in collaboration with Canonical for desktops and laptops.
[15:33] <JoshStrobl> FROST_, you literally just said "yes" to it being for both desktop and phone. the quote says desktops and laptops, not phones
[15:33] <BabyWombat> when will you guys replace default gtk apps with qt/qml ones on the desktop?
[15:33] <nshiell> I don't understand the difference at the moement
[15:34] <nshiell> There are already some great QT apps
[15:34] <FROST_> With OS China, the Chinese government presented an operating system for mobile phones, tablets and other devices. A first promo video gives a meaningful insight into the strange familiar system. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvv-eXIcQug
[15:36] <Knightmare_> But then you have a chicken and egg scenario. Who will buy a phone that doesnt have popular apps on it?
[15:37] <katrevendis> hello
[15:38] <remon1496> knightmare_ youv got a point there, but i think the chinse will clone the populair apps:P
[15:38] <Knightmare_> lol :D
[15:39] <katrevendis> why protools is not compatible on ubuntu
[15:39] <katrevendis> ?
[15:39] <JoshStrobl> katrevendis, what?
[15:41] <JoshStrobl> katrevendis, your question made no sense
[15:41] <katrevendis> i tried installed protools on ubuntu but its does not allowed
[15:41] <JoshStrobl> oh you mean Pro Tools the software
[15:41] <katrevendis> yesh the DAW
[15:42] <JoshStrobl> katrevendis, Linux isn't a supported platform for Pro Tools.
[15:42] <JoshStrobl> katrevendis, it has nothing to do with Ubuntu, it has to do with the fact the Pro Tools developers don't support Linux.
[15:43] <katrevendis> wow i really understand you all guys
[15:43] <katrevendis> thnaks for good
[15:43] <katrevendis> so what about the Adobe Audition
[15:43] <FROST_> thanks :)
[15:44] <JoshStrobl> katrevendis, if it doesn't support Linux and doesn't work in WINE, then it just doesn't work. once again, this is an issue with the developers, not Ubuntu.
[15:44] <dbarth__> sorry i had to leave; thanks everyone
[15:44] <katrevendis> okay i get it
[15:44] <BabyWombat> why is Qt Ubuntu's SDK if Ubuntu Desktop default apps are GTK apps
[15:44] <jnxd> QUESTION: RTM status? Last I heard it was scheduled for the 28th.
[15:44] <m6569101303> QUESTION once more about Grid Unit in Cordova/Oxide: Is it very difficult to implement something as window.Unity.units.gu() ?
[15:45] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: Will appArmor be employed as part of the security model on Ubuntu Touch?
[15:45] <JoshStrobl> jnxd, the RTM silos are already being used and synced
[15:45] <JoshStrobl> Knightmare_, I believe apps are already constrained with AppArmor.
[15:45] <Knightmare_> oh cool thanks for letting me know JoshStrobl
[15:46] <jnxd> silos?
[15:47] <JoshStrobl> jnxd, RTM silos are testing silos where code merge and automated testing occurs. if you are asking WHEN the OS will be released to manufacturers, I doubt you'll get an answer.
[15:47] <nshiell> Thanks, I was asking as lots of people seem to like using it these days
[15:48] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION could you talk about any agreements you have with other companys and ubuntu touch, we know VLC is coming but any updates and are there any new agreements you can talk about?
[15:49] <BabyWombat> Gnome desktop apps are evolving in a way that you won't be able integrate in Ubuntu in the future, when will you replace them?
[15:50] <jnxd> Thanks, JoshStrobl. I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch to my Xperia L. Do you suggest I should wait for the RTM, or there won't be a geat advantage ?
[15:50] <FROST_> i must leave now, thanks everyone
[15:50] <remon1496> kdeconnect is interesting..
[15:50] <JoshStrobl> jnxd, there won't be a difference really. RTM silos will just have specific patches for officially supported devices from OEMs.
[15:51] <remon1496> https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect
[15:51] <jnxd> JoshStrobl, thanks again
[15:51] <JoshStrobl> jnxd, np
[15:55] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION:how and why is Ubuntu and Ubuntu touch so awesome
[15:56] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: I love Unity, I love the new Gnome, Could you grab Unity and Gnome and smash them together to make the ultimate desktop?
[15:58] <JoshStrobl> popey, don't forget you can follow the mailing list!
[16:00] <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: popey, when is your next chicken chasing session?
[16:01] <popey> Thanks everyone!
[16:01] <dholbach> thanks everyone! :)
[16:02] <popey> haha
[16:02] <JoshStrobl> popey, aww, no answer to my question :P
[16:02] <popey> sorry, missed it
[16:02] <JoshStrobl> in all seriousness though, great session!
[16:03] <JoshStrobl> I checked out the dash today and was like "holy crap, the bottom-edge gesture to get to scopes and dash pages is amazing"