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elfy | stgraber: not sure if releasetasksignup is right - but, if the mail to release asking for who's participating lands today I'm not sure I'll see it - Xubuntu DO want to participate in Beta's - thanks | 06:28 |
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stgraber | elfy: noted, thanks | 13:44 |
stgraber | elfy: yeah, I'll send the e-mail out in a few minutes, I unfortunately was rather busy yesterday and couldn't get to it... (was traveling all of last week so had some catching up to do...) | 13:44 |
stgraber | Riddell: will Kubuntu participate in Beta 1? If so, are all products participating (Desktop + Plasma 5)? | 13:53 |
Riddell | stgraber: hi, yes I'm all for beta 1 and I'm all for desktop and plasma5 to be in it | 13:53 |
stgraber | zequence: are you planning on releasing a beta 1 this week? | 13:53 |
stgraber | Riddell: perfect, thanks | 13:54 |
stgraber | utlemming, rcj: are you guys participating in beta 1? | 13:54 |
rcj | stgraber, yes | 13:55 |
stgraber | JackYu: hey there, are you planning to participate in Beta 1? | 13:56 |
stgraber | who are the contacts for Ubuntu Gnome and Lubuntu these days? | 13:57 |
JackYu | stgraber, yes:) | 13:57 |
elfy | stgraber: wxl is the lubuntu QA guy I believe | 13:59 |
stgraber | ah cool. | 14:00 |
stgraber | wxl: hey there, are you going to release a Beta 1 this week? | 14:00 |
stgraber | Riddell: so I'm updating the manifest with the current contacts for all flavours, is ScottK still the right fallback for when you're not around? | 14:01 |
Riddell | let me check | 14:02 |
stgraber | ideally, I'd like to have two contacts listed for each flavour, that makes reaching people a bit easier :) | 14:03 |
elfy | stgraber: listed where? | 14:03 |
stgraber | elfy: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/43/manifest | 14:03 |
stgraber | elfy: speaking of which, do you have a fallback contact for Xubuntu? | 14:04 |
elfy | stgraber - knome was the project lead - new one is ochosi on IRC Simon Steinbeiß - and there's me QAing | 14:05 |
elfy | I was getting there :p | 14:05 |
stgraber | cool, so I'll list you first and ochosi as the fallback | 14:05 |
elfy | yep - wfm | 14:05 |
stgraber | rcj: I've updated the cloud image contacts to be you and utlemming now (with you as the first contact) | 14:07 |
stgraber | superm1: when doing mythbuntu release-y things, do you have a backup contact? | 14:11 |
superm1 | tgm4883: | 14:12 |
stgraber | thanks | 14:12 |
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stgraber | elfy: xubuntu desktop failed to build | 14:32 |
stgraber | Unpacking xubuntu-live-settings (14.10.4) ... | 14:32 |
stgraber | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/xubuntu-live-settings_14.10.4_all.deb (--unpack): | 14:32 |
stgraber | trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/autostart/light-locker.desktop', which is also in package xubuntu-default-settings 14.10.4 | 14:32 |
zequence | stgraber: I think we will skip it this time around, and just do the final beta. | 15:18 |
stgraber | zequence: ok | 15:20 |
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smoser | hey. i'ave 2 questions | 16:16 |
smoser | a.) do we actually need a FFe for bug 1361737 | 16:17 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1361737 in ubuntu "[ffe] New dependency for openstack python-oslo.utils" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361737 | 16:17 |
ubot93 | bug 1361737 in Ubuntu "[ffe] New dependency for openstack python-oslo.utils" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361737 | 16:17 |
smoser | b.) why did that not automatically sync. it was accepted into testing on 2014-08-19 | 16:17 |
gaughen | infinity, slangasek, stgraber any thoughts on smoser's question above? | 16:42 |
stgraber | smoser: for b), quite simple, because the 19th is after the 7th (DIF) | 16:44 |
smoser | ah. yeah. that is quite simple | 16:44 |
stgraber | smoser: I'm never quite sure if we need a FFe for new packages, anyway, I granted that one. | 16:45 |
stgraber | from a whole distro point of view, it's a new feature, though what we really care about post-feature freeze is new features in existing packages, not so much new packages | 16:46 |
smoser | stgraber, additionally to argue that it is not needed... there is a broken package if we dont pull it in (well, not now, but guaranteed on next upload) | 16:47 |
smoser | thanks. | 16:47 |
elfy | stgraber: mmm - so - we wait to see if it builds next time around? | 16:49 |
stgraber | elfy: your package is busted, I'm pretty much sure I can build it 50 times and it'll still fail | 16:50 |
elfy | ok - thanks | 16:50 |
stgraber | elfy: xubuntu-live-settings and xubuntu-default-settings both ship the same file, so you get a conflict at install time and dpkg fails | 16:50 |
stgraber | elfy: so just drop light-locker.desktop from one of the two and you should be fine (unless there are other similar conflicts later on) | 16:51 |
elfy | k - ty, ochosi bluesabre ^^ | 16:51 |
elfy | yep - that'll be someone else's issue to deal with - way above my paygrade :) | 16:51 |
gaughen | stgraber, since you have surfaced and are being super helpful, are you an archive admin too? | 16:52 |
gaughen | don't run and hide stgraber! | 16:52 |
elfy | stgraber: looking at jenkins I'm guessing it all went wrong 2 days ago, that being the last daily we seem to have | 16:52 |
stgraber | gaughen: I'm an archive admin but kinda busy with other things at the moment :) | 16:53 |
gaughen | stgraber, darn it! okay, zul had two packages he needed pushed fwd. | 16:53 |
stgraber | gaughen: besides, I probably shouldn't be reviewing python-lxc seeing how I'm the upstream for that one :) | 16:53 |
gaughen | stgraber, now *that* is a very fair reason. you are a bit biased, eh? | 16:54 |
stgraber | gaughen: yeah, haven't quite reached the point where I don't remember any of that code yet ;) | 16:54 |
Riddell | bah all the slideshows still say 14.04 | 16:55 |
Riddell | uploaded version 85 of ubiquity-slideshow | 16:59 |
Riddell | stgraber: you not put in the package freeze? | 17:00 |
stgraber | Riddell: I usually put it in place mid-afternoon on Tuesday which is in a couple of hours | 17:00 |
Riddell | ah, you moved across the planet | 17:04 |
stgraber | Riddell: I do that occasionaly :) | 17:21 |
wxl | stgraber: yep thanks for the update i'll get on it right now. i've been waiting impatiently :) | 19:36 |
stgraber | wxl: ok, adding you and spinning some images then | 19:37 |
stgraber | wxl: do you want both alternate and desktop on amd64, amd64+mac, i386 and powerpc or just a subset of that? | 19:38 |
wxl | stgraber: yes, i want all of them. we might not get the ppc/amd64+mac again, but it's worth a shot. | 19:38 |
stgraber | wxl: building now | 19:39 |
wxl | stgraber: btw do YOU know the *exact* targets for amd64+mac? it seems to me there are no intel macs this is relevant to anymore, since apple now offers firmware updates. | 19:39 |
stgraber | wxl: no idea, sorry | 19:39 |
wxl | stgraber: that seems to be everyone's impression. ;) | 19:39 |
wxl | stgraber: is it too early for me to make a release note to our users? | 20:11 |
stgraber | wxl: so usually I don't maintain any central list of release notes, feel free to create a wiki page for your product and give me the link so I can include it in the announcement on Thursday | 20:12 |
wxl | stgraber: i'll work on it throughout the final testing and have something final by then. meanwhile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Beta1/Lubuntu | 20:21 |
wxl | stgraber: and sorry i didn't mean a release note, i meant a testing announcement XD | 20:21 |
stgraber | wxl: well, maybe wait for your desktop images to finish building too, but otherwise, no reason not to get testers now. | 20:24 |
wxl | stgraber: that's what i figured :) | 20:24 |
stgraber | ok, time to setup the beta1 migration block | 21:22 |
cjwatson | stgraber: err I was *almost* done with perl 5.20 and am a bit worried it'll bitrot if I leave it further | 21:33 |
cjwatson | stgraber: I don't suppose it would be possible to finish that? I just need to test-build perlkde against my putative perlqt fix, then upload perlqt, then retry perlkde | 21:33 |
stgraber | cjwatson: I don't think anyone would mind you getting those in so long as they make it in today | 21:35 |
cjwatson | I think I should be an hour or two away | 21:35 |
stgraber | ok, sounds good then | 21:35 |
cjwatson | so you'd prefer me to just do a giant unblock, rather than deferring the master block? | 21:35 |
stgraber | cjwatson: well, the giant block is already in place and I may not be around when you land your stuff, so it may be simpler for you to either do a giant unblock or just comment my block for one britney run when you're ready | 21:37 |
stgraber | I'm not aware of anything currently in proposed which flavours want to avoid migrating to the release pocket, so either way should be fine | 21:38 |
cjwatson | OK, giant unblock is doable I guess, thanks | 21:40 |
infinity | cjwatson: commenting the block gets a new kernel too, which might be wanted (and may well not be). | 22:05 |
infinity | stgraber's call, though. | 22:05 |
stgraber | infinity: just went through the changelog, not seeing anything urgent in there (nor anything harmful), so I guess we'll just minimize the changes for now in the hope of getting beta1 images ready ASAP so we can lift the whole block then | 22:08 |
infinity | stgraber: *nod* | 22:09 |
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bluesabre | stgraber: uploaded a xubuntu-default-settings that will fix the beta build failure, in proposed now | 23:46 |
gaughen | cjwatson, infinity if you all have a break between sessions, was hoping I could get you to put your archive admin hat on and look at python-lxc and granite, pretty please!!!! | 23:47 |
stgraber | bluesabre: ok, I'll push an unblock for it | 23:49 |
bluesabre | stgraber, thanks! | 23:49 |
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