[06:28] <elfy> stgraber: not sure if releasetasksignup is right - but, if the mail to release asking for who's participating lands today I'm not sure I'll see it - Xubuntu DO want to participate in Beta's - thanks
[13:44] <stgraber> elfy: noted, thanks
[13:44] <stgraber> elfy: yeah, I'll send the e-mail out in a few minutes, I unfortunately was rather busy yesterday and couldn't get to it... (was traveling all of last week so had some catching up to do...)
[13:53] <stgraber> Riddell: will Kubuntu participate in Beta 1? If so, are all products participating (Desktop + Plasma 5)?
[13:53] <Riddell> stgraber: hi, yes I'm all for beta 1 and I'm all for desktop and plasma5 to be in it
[13:53] <stgraber> zequence: are you planning on releasing a beta 1 this week?
[13:54] <stgraber> Riddell: perfect, thanks
[13:54] <stgraber> utlemming, rcj: are you guys participating in beta 1?
[13:55] <rcj> stgraber, yes
[13:56] <stgraber> JackYu: hey there, are you planning to participate in Beta 1?
[13:57] <stgraber> who are the contacts for Ubuntu Gnome and Lubuntu these days?
[13:57] <JackYu> stgraber, yes:)
[13:59] <elfy> stgraber: wxl is the lubuntu QA guy I believe
[14:00] <stgraber> ah cool.
[14:00] <stgraber> wxl: hey there, are you going to release a Beta 1 this week?
[14:01] <stgraber> Riddell: so I'm updating the manifest with the current contacts for all flavours, is ScottK still the right fallback for when you're not around?
[14:02] <Riddell> let me check
[14:03] <stgraber> ideally, I'd like to have two contacts listed for each flavour, that makes reaching people a bit easier :)
[14:03] <elfy> stgraber: listed where?
[14:03] <stgraber> elfy: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/43/manifest
[14:04] <stgraber> elfy: speaking of which, do you have a fallback contact for Xubuntu?
[14:05] <elfy> stgraber - knome was the project lead - new one is ochosi on IRC Simon Steinbeiß - and there's me QAing
[14:05] <elfy> I was getting there :p
[14:05] <stgraber> cool, so I'll list you first and ochosi as the fallback
[14:05] <elfy> yep - wfm
[14:07] <stgraber> rcj: I've updated the cloud image contacts to be you and utlemming now (with you as the first contact)
[14:11] <stgraber> superm1: when doing mythbuntu release-y things, do you have a backup contact?
[14:12] <superm1> tgm4883:
[14:12] <stgraber> thanks
[14:32] <stgraber> elfy: xubuntu desktop failed to build
[14:32] <stgraber> Unpacking xubuntu-live-settings (14.10.4) ...
[14:32] <stgraber> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/xubuntu-live-settings_14.10.4_all.deb (--unpack):
[14:32] <stgraber>  trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/autostart/light-locker.desktop', which is also in package xubuntu-default-settings 14.10.4
[15:18] <zequence> stgraber: I think we will skip it this time around, and just do the final beta.
[15:20] <stgraber> zequence: ok
[16:16] <smoser> hey. i'ave 2 questions
[16:17] <smoser> a.) do we actually need a FFe for bug 1361737
[16:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1361737 in ubuntu "[ffe] New dependency for openstack python-oslo.utils" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361737
[16:17] <smoser> b.) why did that not automatically sync. it was accepted into testing on 2014-08-19
[16:42] <gaughen> infinity, slangasek, stgraber any thoughts on smoser's question above?
[16:44] <stgraber> smoser: for b), quite simple, because the 19th is after the 7th (DIF)
[16:44] <smoser> ah. yeah. that is quite simple
[16:45] <stgraber> smoser: I'm never quite sure if we need a FFe for new packages, anyway, I granted that one.
[16:46] <stgraber> from a whole distro point of view, it's a new feature, though what we really care about post-feature freeze is new features in existing packages, not so much new packages
[16:47] <smoser> stgraber, additionally to argue that it is not needed... there is a broken package if we dont pull it in (well, not now, but guaranteed on next upload)
[16:47] <smoser> thanks.
[16:49] <elfy> stgraber: mmm - so - we wait to see if it builds next time around?
[16:50] <stgraber> elfy: your package is busted, I'm pretty much sure I can build it 50 times and it'll still fail
[16:50] <elfy> ok - thanks
[16:50] <stgraber> elfy: xubuntu-live-settings and xubuntu-default-settings both ship the same file, so you get a conflict at install time and dpkg fails
[16:51] <stgraber> elfy: so just drop light-locker.desktop from one of the two and you should be fine (unless there are other similar conflicts later on)
[16:51] <elfy> k - ty, ochosi bluesabre ^^
[16:51] <elfy> yep - that'll be someone else's issue to deal with - way above my paygrade :)
[16:52] <gaughen> stgraber, since you have surfaced and are being super helpful, are you an archive admin too?
[16:52] <gaughen> don't run and hide stgraber!
[16:52] <elfy> stgraber: looking at jenkins I'm guessing it all went wrong 2 days ago, that being the last daily we seem to have
[16:53] <stgraber> gaughen: I'm an archive admin but kinda busy with other things at the moment :)
[16:53] <gaughen> stgraber, darn it! okay, zul had two packages he needed pushed fwd.
[16:53] <stgraber> gaughen: besides, I probably shouldn't be reviewing python-lxc seeing how I'm the upstream for that one :)
[16:54] <gaughen> stgraber, now *that* is a very fair reason. you are a bit biased, eh?
[16:54] <stgraber> gaughen: yeah, haven't quite reached the point where I don't remember any of that code yet ;)
[16:55] <Riddell> bah all the slideshows still say 14.04
[16:59] <Riddell> uploaded version 85 of ubiquity-slideshow
[17:00] <Riddell> stgraber: you not put in the package freeze?
[17:00] <stgraber> Riddell: I usually put it in place mid-afternoon on Tuesday which is in a couple of hours
[17:04] <Riddell> ah, you moved across the planet
[17:21] <stgraber> Riddell: I do that occasionaly :)
[19:36] <wxl> stgraber: yep thanks for the update i'll get on it right now. i've been waiting impatiently :)
[19:37] <stgraber> wxl: ok, adding you and spinning some images then
[19:38] <stgraber> wxl: do you want both alternate and desktop on amd64, amd64+mac, i386 and powerpc or just a subset of that?
[19:38] <wxl> stgraber: yes, i want all of them. we might not get the ppc/amd64+mac again, but it's worth a shot.
[19:39] <stgraber> wxl: building now
[19:39] <wxl> stgraber: btw do YOU know the *exact* targets for amd64+mac? it seems to me there are no intel macs this is relevant to anymore, since apple now offers firmware updates.
[19:39] <stgraber> wxl: no idea, sorry
[19:39] <wxl> stgraber: that seems to be everyone's impression. ;)
[20:11] <wxl> stgraber: is it too early for me to make a release note to our users?
[20:12] <stgraber> wxl: so usually I don't maintain any central list of release notes, feel free to create a wiki page for your product and give me the link so I can include it in the announcement on Thursday
[20:21] <wxl> stgraber: i'll work on it throughout the final testing and have something final by then. meanwhile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Beta1/Lubuntu
[20:21] <wxl> stgraber: and sorry i didn't mean a release note, i meant a testing announcement XD
[20:24] <stgraber> wxl: well, maybe wait for your desktop images to finish building too, but otherwise, no reason not to get testers now.
[20:24] <wxl> stgraber: that's what i figured :)
[21:22] <stgraber> ok, time to setup the beta1 migration block
[21:33] <cjwatson> stgraber: err I was *almost* done with perl 5.20 and am a bit worried it'll bitrot if I leave it further
[21:33] <cjwatson> stgraber: I don't suppose it would be possible to finish that?  I just need to test-build perlkde against my putative perlqt fix, then upload perlqt, then retry perlkde
[21:35] <stgraber> cjwatson: I don't think anyone would mind you getting those in so long as they make it in today
[21:35] <cjwatson> I think I should be an hour or two away
[21:35] <stgraber> ok, sounds good then
[21:35] <cjwatson> so you'd prefer me to just do a giant unblock, rather than deferring the master block?
[21:37] <stgraber> cjwatson: well, the giant block is already in place and I may not be around when you land your stuff, so it may be simpler for you to either do a giant unblock or just comment my block for one britney run when you're ready
[21:38] <stgraber> I'm not aware of anything currently in proposed which flavours want to avoid migrating to the release pocket, so either way should be fine
[21:40] <cjwatson> OK, giant unblock is doable I guess, thanks
[22:05] <infinity> cjwatson: commenting the block gets a new kernel too, which might be wanted (and may well not be).
[22:05] <infinity> stgraber's call, though.
[22:08] <stgraber> infinity: just went through the changelog, not seeing anything urgent in there (nor anything harmful), so I guess we'll just minimize the changes for now in the hope of getting beta1 images ready ASAP so we can lift the whole block then
[22:09] <infinity> stgraber: *nod*
[23:46] <bluesabre> stgraber: uploaded a xubuntu-default-settings that will fix the beta build failure, in proposed now
[23:47] <gaughen> cjwatson, infinity if you all have a break between sessions, was hoping I could get you to put your archive admin hat on and look at python-lxc and granite, pretty please!!!!
[23:49] <stgraber> bluesabre: ok, I'll push an unblock for it
[23:49] <bluesabre> stgraber, thanks!