=== s8321414_ is now known as s8321414 === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [06:28] stgraber: not sure if releasetasksignup is right - but, if the mail to release asking for who's participating lands today I'm not sure I'll see it - Xubuntu DO want to participate in Beta's - thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel === jpds_ is now known as jpds === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === cking_ is now known as cking === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Saviq_ is now known as Saviq === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:44] elfy: noted, thanks [13:44] elfy: yeah, I'll send the e-mail out in a few minutes, I unfortunately was rather busy yesterday and couldn't get to it... (was traveling all of last week so had some catching up to do...) [13:53] Riddell: will Kubuntu participate in Beta 1? If so, are all products participating (Desktop + Plasma 5)? [13:53] stgraber: hi, yes I'm all for beta 1 and I'm all for desktop and plasma5 to be in it [13:53] zequence: are you planning on releasing a beta 1 this week? [13:54] Riddell: perfect, thanks [13:54] utlemming, rcj: are you guys participating in beta 1? [13:55] stgraber, yes [13:56] JackYu: hey there, are you planning to participate in Beta 1? [13:57] who are the contacts for Ubuntu Gnome and Lubuntu these days? [13:57] stgraber, yes:) [13:59] stgraber: wxl is the lubuntu QA guy I believe [14:00] ah cool. [14:00] wxl: hey there, are you going to release a Beta 1 this week? [14:01] Riddell: so I'm updating the manifest with the current contacts for all flavours, is ScottK still the right fallback for when you're not around? [14:02] let me check [14:03] ideally, I'd like to have two contacts listed for each flavour, that makes reaching people a bit easier :) [14:03] stgraber: listed where? [14:03] elfy: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/43/manifest [14:04] elfy: speaking of which, do you have a fallback contact for Xubuntu? [14:05] stgraber - knome was the project lead - new one is ochosi on IRC Simon Steinbeiß - and there's me QAing [14:05] I was getting there :p [14:05] cool, so I'll list you first and ochosi as the fallback [14:05] yep - wfm [14:07] rcj: I've updated the cloud image contacts to be you and utlemming now (with you as the first contact) [14:11] superm1: when doing mythbuntu release-y things, do you have a backup contact? [14:12] tgm4883: [14:12] thanks === arges` is now known as arges [14:32] elfy: xubuntu desktop failed to build [14:32] Unpacking xubuntu-live-settings (14.10.4) ... [14:32] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/xubuntu-live-settings_14.10.4_all.deb (--unpack): [14:32] trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/autostart/light-locker.desktop', which is also in package xubuntu-default-settings 14.10.4 [15:18] stgraber: I think we will skip it this time around, and just do the final beta. [15:20] zequence: ok === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [16:16] hey. i'ave 2 questions [16:17] a.) do we actually need a FFe for bug 1361737 [16:17] Launchpad bug 1361737 in ubuntu "[ffe] New dependency for openstack python-oslo.utils" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361737 [16:17] bug 1361737 in Ubuntu "[ffe] New dependency for openstack python-oslo.utils" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361737 [16:17] b.) why did that not automatically sync. it was accepted into testing on 2014-08-19 [16:42] infinity, slangasek, stgraber any thoughts on smoser's question above? [16:44] smoser: for b), quite simple, because the 19th is after the 7th (DIF) [16:44] ah. yeah. that is quite simple [16:45] smoser: I'm never quite sure if we need a FFe for new packages, anyway, I granted that one. [16:46] from a whole distro point of view, it's a new feature, though what we really care about post-feature freeze is new features in existing packages, not so much new packages [16:47] stgraber, additionally to argue that it is not needed... there is a broken package if we dont pull it in (well, not now, but guaranteed on next upload) [16:47] thanks. [16:49] stgraber: mmm - so - we wait to see if it builds next time around? [16:50] elfy: your package is busted, I'm pretty much sure I can build it 50 times and it'll still fail [16:50] ok - thanks [16:50] elfy: xubuntu-live-settings and xubuntu-default-settings both ship the same file, so you get a conflict at install time and dpkg fails [16:51] elfy: so just drop light-locker.desktop from one of the two and you should be fine (unless there are other similar conflicts later on) [16:51] k - ty, ochosi bluesabre ^^ [16:51] yep - that'll be someone else's issue to deal with - way above my paygrade :) [16:52] stgraber, since you have surfaced and are being super helpful, are you an archive admin too? [16:52] don't run and hide stgraber! [16:52] stgraber: looking at jenkins I'm guessing it all went wrong 2 days ago, that being the last daily we seem to have [16:53] gaughen: I'm an archive admin but kinda busy with other things at the moment :) [16:53] stgraber, darn it! okay, zul had two packages he needed pushed fwd. [16:53] gaughen: besides, I probably shouldn't be reviewing python-lxc seeing how I'm the upstream for that one :) [16:54] stgraber, now *that* is a very fair reason. you are a bit biased, eh? [16:54] gaughen: yeah, haven't quite reached the point where I don't remember any of that code yet ;) [16:55] bah all the slideshows still say 14.04 [16:59] uploaded version 85 of ubiquity-slideshow [17:00] stgraber: you not put in the package freeze? [17:00] Riddell: I usually put it in place mid-afternoon on Tuesday which is in a couple of hours [17:04] ah, you moved across the planet [17:21] Riddell: I do that occasionaly :) [19:36] stgraber: yep thanks for the update i'll get on it right now. i've been waiting impatiently :) [19:37] wxl: ok, adding you and spinning some images then [19:38] wxl: do you want both alternate and desktop on amd64, amd64+mac, i386 and powerpc or just a subset of that? [19:38] stgraber: yes, i want all of them. we might not get the ppc/amd64+mac again, but it's worth a shot. [19:39] wxl: building now [19:39] stgraber: btw do YOU know the *exact* targets for amd64+mac? it seems to me there are no intel macs this is relevant to anymore, since apple now offers firmware updates. [19:39] wxl: no idea, sorry [19:39] stgraber: that seems to be everyone's impression. ;) [20:11] stgraber: is it too early for me to make a release note to our users? [20:12] wxl: so usually I don't maintain any central list of release notes, feel free to create a wiki page for your product and give me the link so I can include it in the announcement on Thursday [20:21] stgraber: i'll work on it throughout the final testing and have something final by then. meanwhile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Beta1/Lubuntu [20:21] stgraber: and sorry i didn't mean a release note, i meant a testing announcement XD [20:24] wxl: well, maybe wait for your desktop images to finish building too, but otherwise, no reason not to get testers now. [20:24] stgraber: that's what i figured :) [21:22] ok, time to setup the beta1 migration block [21:33] stgraber: err I was *almost* done with perl 5.20 and am a bit worried it'll bitrot if I leave it further [21:33] stgraber: I don't suppose it would be possible to finish that? I just need to test-build perlkde against my putative perlqt fix, then upload perlqt, then retry perlkde [21:35] cjwatson: I don't think anyone would mind you getting those in so long as they make it in today [21:35] I think I should be an hour or two away [21:35] ok, sounds good then [21:35] so you'd prefer me to just do a giant unblock, rather than deferring the master block? [21:37] cjwatson: well, the giant block is already in place and I may not be around when you land your stuff, so it may be simpler for you to either do a giant unblock or just comment my block for one britney run when you're ready [21:38] I'm not aware of anything currently in proposed which flavours want to avoid migrating to the release pocket, so either way should be fine [21:40] OK, giant unblock is doable I guess, thanks [22:05] cjwatson: commenting the block gets a new kernel too, which might be wanted (and may well not be). [22:05] stgraber's call, though. [22:08] infinity: just went through the changelog, not seeing anything urgent in there (nor anything harmful), so I guess we'll just minimize the changes for now in the hope of getting beta1 images ready ASAP so we can lift the whole block then [22:09] stgraber: *nod* === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti === Noskcaj_ is now known as Noskcaj === sergiusens is now known as sergiusens_ === sergiusens_ is now known as sergiusens [23:46] stgraber: uploaded a xubuntu-default-settings that will fix the beta build failure, in proposed now [23:47] cjwatson, infinity if you all have a break between sessions, was hoping I could get you to put your archive admin hat on and look at python-lxc and granite, pretty please!!!! [23:49] bluesabre: ok, I'll push an unblock for it [23:49] stgraber, thanks!