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bduk1More more05:21
Cantidegooie more05:23
bduk1Lyk my almal slaap nog Cantide 05:27
bduk1kry seker koud05:27
Cantidedis baie warm hier :D05:28
Cantidewow, my Afrikaans sucks :(05:29
bduk1Niks fout met jou Afrikaans nie05:32
bduk1Waar is jy 05:32
Cantidekorea05:32
Cantidebrb05:32
nuvolario/ oh hi05:33
bduk1Ish en jy praat Afrikaans Baie goed kom jy van SA? More nuvolari 05:33
nuvolarimôre bduk1, Cantide, deegee, 05:33
nuvolariand Tonberry 05:33
Tonberryhi05:34
Cantideja, ek kom van Durban af :p05:40
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ThatGraemeGuymorning all06:16
Kilosbushtech  moerbuie06:18
Kiloshi smile  06:18
Kiloshi Xethron  06:19
Symmetrialo all06:19
Kilosmorning inetpro  ThatGraemeGuy  Symmetria  06:19
Symmetriadont suppose anyone here happens to have a dealer account with rectron?06:19
SymmetriaI need to buy some stuff from them which I'll pay them cash or card for but you gotta be a dealer with them to do so 06:19
ThatGraemeGuymmm nope06:20
ThatGraemeGuycould've helped if i was at my old job, but alas06:20
bushtechKilos: In engels noem hulle dit 'n tantrum06:21
Kiloshuh06:22
Kilosnee man06:22
Kilosmullberry06:22
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 06:23
Kiloshi nuvolari  you chairing tonight?06:23
nuvolariI can do that oom Kilos 06:28
Kilosty young man06:28
Kiloshi drussell  hows davey?06:32
Kiloswe all maintaining here06:32
Cantideannnnnd it's done~ https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/IMG_20140826_151331.jpg (2.2 MiB file :S)06:33
Kiloswhat is it for Cantide  ?06:35
Cantideclock06:35
Kilosah well done06:35
Cantideneeds a case though..06:35
Symmetrialol @ rectron06:38
Symmetriafirstly, their pricelist download login/password has  not changed in 5 years06:38
Symmetriasecondly, a friends account (and he hasn't been in za for 4 years) is still active despite not having bought anything in 4 and a half years06:39
Kilosi think Squirm  bought from them recently Symmetria  06:40
Kilosor looked at their prices anyway06:40
SymmetriaI need to buy a buttload of harddrives from them 06:52
inetproKilos: moerbeie07:14
charlmorning all07:14
charlMaaz: coffee on07:14
* Maaz puts the kettle on07:14
inetprogood mornings everyone07:14
charlhi inetpro 07:15
Kiloshi inetpro  07:16
Kiloshi charl  07:17
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!07:18
SquirmSymmetria: we have an account with them07:44
SquirmDurban branch07:44
charlMaaz: thanks07:48
Maazcharl: Sure07:48
Kiloshmm... inetpro  they have 4g routers out now i see08:45
Kilosi spose they wont make a diffs if there isnt 4g supply08:46
ThatGraemeGuyyou mean LTE08:48
Kilosno 08:52
Kilosi dont think so08:52
Kilos3g upgraded to 4g08:52
Kiloswe dont get lte coverage08:52
ThatGraemeGuyafaik there is no 4G yet, everyone started calling LTE 4G but actually it isn't 4G08:52
ThatGraemeGuyWiMAX is 4G if i'm not mistaken08:52
ThatGraemeGuybut i don't think there are any significant commercial deployments anywhere08:53
Kilosi have a 3.75 g modem and the new dlink -157 is 4g i think but anyway i have a mail from a supplier advertising a 4g router08:53
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.dlink.com/uk/en/support/product/dwm-157-3g-hspa-plus-usb-adapter that one?08:54
Kiloswow that link is taking forever to open08:55
Kilosthe router is a tenda 4g63908:56
Kilos630 sorry08:56
ThatGraemeGuythats a wifi AP with a usb port for a normal USB 3G dongle08:58
ThatGraemeGuyyou cant put a sim straight into it08:58
Kilosi have a dlink-156 and ian has a 157 and hes is faster08:58
Kilosseems to get better reception as well08:59
ThatGraemeGuythats not unusual08:59
Kilosso theyve done some upgrading08:59
ThatGraemeGuyits a newer model, i'd be a bit pissed off if it didn't have better specs09:00
Kiloslol09:00
Kilosspam coming09:00
KilosThe DWM-157 3G HSPA+ USB Adapter supports the latest Evolved High Speed Packet Access (HSPA+) 3G technology, which boosts the maximum download speeds to up to 21.6 Mbps and uplink rate to 5.76 Mbps1, helping to reduce latency to give you the best mobile Internet experience. The technology is backwards compatible with 3.5G, 3G, and 2.5G, allowing you to connect from a variety of mobile broadband connections from around the world4.09:00
ThatGraemeGuy"buy the new Hilux, now with higher prices, less features and worse fuel economy"09:01
Kilosi havent got better than 8 Mb/s out of mine yet09:01
Kiloshaha09:01
ThatGraemeGuyThe DWM-156 supports the latest 3.75G High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA) technology, which offers data rates up to 7.2 Mbps 09:02
ThatGraemeGuysounds like you got exactly what its capable of09:02
Kiloswell ive got a bit more so im happy09:02
ThatGraemeGuyyou don't need more speed you need cheaper bundles :P09:02
Kilostell me about it09:03
ThatGraemeGuy7.2Mbps is more than i get at home on adsl09:03
Kilosyou work out the rocket science on how we are going to achieve that goal09:03
ThatGraemeGuyi'm not a businessy type09:03
Kiloswe need to get a brain trust together to work out how we can use this way09:11
Kiloshttp://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm09:12
charlhmmm extremely slow speeds that09:17
Kilosya it is a bit slow, but would be free09:18
charlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_over_power_lines09:19
Kiloslol im already looking there too09:19
charlnot necessarily09:19
charlThe asymmetric speed in the modem is generally from 256 kbit/s to 2.7 Mbit/s09:19
charlIn the repeater situated in the meter room the speed is up to 45 Mbit/s and can be connected to 256 PLC modems.09:19
charlthat is quite decent09:19
charlIn the medium voltage stations, the speed from the head ends to the Internet is up to 135 Mbit/s.09:20
Kilosthats very good\09:20
Kiloshow to do it is the trick09:20
charlbut you see there are two components09:21
charlthere is the local component in your own house09:21
charland there is the component that links to the upstream provider (electrical company or whatever)09:21
charl2,7mbps would suck for regular internet but it would be more than good enough to link so-called "smart" devices to the internet09:22
charlwould be really good for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_Things09:23
Kilosthe main one that is going to supply the internet is the thing09:23
Kiloswhere to place it and how far can it send09:23
Kilosmust surely be in a building that has high speed internet09:24
charlit's not entirely clear to me either... hmmmm.09:25
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jrgnsAfternoon all10:41
Kiloshi jrgns  long time no heR10:41
jrgnshey Kilos, hectic work schedule :(10:41
KilosAI!10:41
Kilosoops10:41
jrgnssucky sucky. no time to chat with intelligent people10:42
Kiloslol10:42
jrgnscan anyone tell me, or point me to a resource, that properly defines the four memory types reported by collectd?10:43
jrgnsfree, used, cached and buffered10:43
jrgnsafaik free + used should equal your total ram?10:44
jrgnsand it's bad if free + cached hits zero?10:44
Kilosswap fits in there somewhere too10:44
Kilosyou on windows?10:45
Kilosthen its virtual memory10:45
jrgnsubuntu boxen10:47
jrgnswell, ubuntu vm's running on MS's vm stack10:47
jrgnswhat's weird, though, is that my free + used is about 1GB short of my actual ram allocation10:48
jrgnsbut it might be the reporting software10:48
ThatGraemeGuyjrgns: free is physical memory that is completely unused10:53
ThatGraemeGuyused is the total that processes have asked the kernel for10:54
ThatGraemeGuybuffers are where the kernel stores meta information about files stored on block devices10:54
ThatGraemeGuyand cache is where the kernel stores content from files on block devices10:55
ThatGraemeGuyif you take a file like /etc/profile for instance, the kernel stores information like its size, modification time, etc. in buffers, and the actual content of the file in cache10:55
ThatGraemeGuyif memory needs to be allocated for a process the kernel will hand out from the free pool first10:56
ThatGraemeGuyif it needs more it will expire cache data10:56
ThatGraemeGuypost the output of 'free -m'10:56
jrgnssure10:59
jrgns             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached Mem:          3946       3794        151          0        160       1890 -/+ buffers/cache:       1743       2202 Swap:         7029         32       699710:59
jrgnsurgh, no10:59
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://slexy.org/11:00
jrgnsthanx11:01
jrgnshttp://slexy.org/view/s21mPCAeWb11:01
ThatGraemeGuyused+free=total11:02
jrgnsyeah, for free -m, but collectd's numbers don't correspond11:03
jrgnsthe free numbers are fine11:03
ThatGraemeGuyah ok11:03
jrgnsbut used is around 174411:03
ThatGraemeGuysorry i didn't notice the collectd part11:04
jrgnsno worries11:04
ThatGraemeGuycollectd's used is 1744?11:04
jrgnsbut it looks like collectd's used is the -/+ buffers/cache part11:04
ThatGraemeGuyyes11:04
jrgnsyes11:04
jrgnscare to explain that second line?11:04
ThatGraemeGuysure, it relates to the different ways of interpresting "used"11:05
ThatGraemeGuyto the kernel, memory used for buffer/cache data is "used" (first line)11:05
ThatGraemeGuybut the sysadmin generally wants to know how much applications have used (second line)11:05
jrgnsah, schweet.11:06
ThatGraemeGuythe -/+ buffers/cache corresponds with the used/free columns11:06
jrgnsI found this as well https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Tuning_and_Optimizing_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_for_Oracle_9i_and_10g_Databases/chap-Oracle_9i_and_10g_Tuning_Guide-Memory_Usage_and_Page_Cache.html11:06
jrgnsa much more verbose url and explanation11:06
jrgnsthanx, appreciate the help11:06
ThatGraemeGuyso (used-on-line1) - (buffers+cache) = (used-on-line2)11:07
ThatGraemeGuyand (free-on-line1) + (buffers+cache) = (free-on-line2)11:07
ThatGraemeGuyyou're welcome11:07
ThatGraemeGuythe colourful table at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ pretty much summarises it too11:08
ThatGraemeGuycollectd is behaving like the "You'd call it" column, and the first line of "free -m" is the "Linux calls it" column11:09
jrgnsmakes sense11:11
jrgnsyou learn something new every day11:11
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KilosMaaz  ThatGraemeGuy  ++11:36
ThatGraemeGuyhuh11:37
Kiloshandy oke to have around11:37
KilosMaaz  karma ThatGraemeGuy  11:37
MaazKilos: ThatGraemeGuy has karma of 111:37
charlgood afternoon all11:58
charlcrazy day here in the office11:58
charlbut yeah, keeping busy :)11:58
ThatGraemeGuyhey charl :)12:07
charlhi ThatGraemeGuy :)12:07
charlhow's it going in the world of hosting12:08
ThatGraemeGuypretty good12:08
ThatGraemeGuyfinally getting around to playing with PHP-FPM12:09
ThatGraemeGuylooking forward to tossing mod_php12:09
ThatGraemeGuysadly won't happen overnight12:09
charlnah i'm completely done with php12:17
charlPre-Historic Programming12:17
charli literally got contacted by a recruiter the other day for a php job12:18
charlmy answer was sorry i only work in modern programming languages12:18
charlshe actually communicated that back to the company as well - lol12:18
charli got that last year once too, turned them down flat and asked them to contact me again when they upgraded to a programming language12:18
charl* modern programming languasge12:18
charl*language (sorry apparently i can't type today)12:19
charlit's like people still using perl12:21
ThatGraemeGuylol12:43
ThatGraemeGuythankfully i don't code12:43
ThatGraemeGuybut most of our client base use PHP12:44
charlah :(12:56
charlyeah some companies are still stuck in the dark ages12:57
ThatGraemeGuyeh, if it works it works12:59
Kilosits like the internal combustion engine, as long as there is money to be made from coal keep it as is14:01
Kilosnot coal oil i mean14:05
Kilosminetest got me rattled14:06
KilosMaaz  seen kbmonkey14:27
MaazKilos: kbmonkey was last seen 1 month, 22 days, 19 hours, 44 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-07-04 11:43:05 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-07-04 12:35:22 PDT14:27
Kilosai!14:27
Kiloshi Tonberry  16:06
Tonberryhello16:06
magespawngood evening16:53
Kiloshi magespawn  16:53
Kilosmeeting tonight hey16:54
Kiloslets hope it happens, i forgot to advertise16:54
Kilosso did the pro i think16:54
charlhi magespawn 16:57
charlhi Kilos 16:57
charlMaaz: coffee on16:57
* Maaz flips the salt-timer16:57
Kiloshi charl  16:57
magespawnhi charl 16:57
magespawnMaaz coffee please16:57
Maazmagespawn: Okay16:57
charl90 mins till meeting ...16:57
Kilosyip16:58
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and magespawn!17:01
magespawnMaaz ty17:01
MaazYou are welcome magespawn17:01
charlMaaz: danke17:01
MaazBitteschön17:01
charltomorrow i go to amsterdam17:01
charlsee the underwear models17:02
charleat some nice food, take nice pictures17:02
charland laugh at stoned foreigners :P17:02
magespawnlol17:22
magespawnman, i am still picking up the pieces from the last guy who did my job17:27
Kiloswow now still?17:28
charlfubar ?17:42
magespawnyup still digging out passwords and user names, domain names, hosting providers etc17:51
magespawnnothing really wrong, just have o dig through everything to find out what i am supposed to looking after17:53
charlit's what people do to make themselves unmissable magespawn 17:54
charlput nothing down on paper17:54
charlor just plain laziness17:54
charlat work we put as much as we can down on a central wiki17:55
Kilosso who on G+ is going to announce we have a meeting in 30 minutes time17:58
Kilosinetpro  ?17:58
magespawni am not quite that organized, but that is a good idea17:58
nuvolariMaaz: meeting.agenda18:01
Maaznuvolari: meeting.agenda is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/728/detail/18:01
charlkeeping a wiki itzelf organized is a lot of work magespawn 18:01
nuvolarioh hi :>18:01
charlbut of course it's better to keep everything together in one place18:01
charlhi nuvolari 18:01
nuvolariack. that's an old agenda18:01
nuvolarihi charl, oom Kilos, magespawn 18:02
Kiloslo nuvolari  18:03
nuvolariMaaz: agenda.link18:03
Maaznuvolari: *blink*18:03
Kilosdoen jy G+ seun18:03
nuvolariek wil 'n link post na die agenda oom18:03
nuvolariek kan google+ doen ja18:03
Kiloshttp://bit.ly/1uGIsqG18:03
nuvolariah, wiki ek dink?18:03
Kilosdis agenda18:03
Kilosen skree op G+ meeting begin in 25 minute18:04
Kilosim getting very cold tonight18:06
captinehi all18:06
Kiloshi captine  18:07
captinehey there Kilos 18:07
Kilosmeeting in 23 minutes18:07
Kilosyou made it18:07
captinewow.  i didnt even realize.  just joined by chance... cool.  will stay on unless the little dude wakes and needs food...18:07
charlhi captine 18:07
captinehi charl 18:07
Kilosoh you breast feeding?18:08
captinequestion.  any of you used iDempiere?  am looking for a good web based accounting system.  18:08
Kiloshehe18:08
captinehaha18:08
captinenope.  the wife is chilling. 18:08
captine:)18:08
captinei am on duty18:08
Kilosaha18:08
nuvolariwill irc://freenode.net/#ubuntu-za work as a link?18:08
nuvolariI can't remember18:09
captinenot sure.  anyone going to software freedom day thing in pretoria?18:09
nuvi-webtestbah!18:10
nuvi-webtestno direct link18:10
nuvi-webtest*sigh*18:10
magespawncaptine i have not used that but i have used dolibarr18:11
nuvolariok, the agenda isn't busy at all18:14
nuvolariso it might not be a long meeting...18:14
Kilosya things are very quiet for months now18:17
captinethanks nuvolari.  Dolibarr looks quite nice.  is it based on any of the common ones like compiere etc?18:17
nuvolariwait, what's dolibarr?18:20
* nuvolari googles18:20
superflyAi, room Kilos, I just realised I double-booked my evening.18:20
superfly*oom18:20
Kilosok superfly  ill shout for you18:20
superflyI'll try to pop in18:20
Kilosty 18:21
captinesorry, meant for magespawn 18:21
nuvolaritsk tsk tsk :'(18:21
captinethanks magespawn .  Dolibarr looks quite nice.  is it based on any of the common ones like compiere etc?18:21
captine:)18:21
superflyCongrats captine, how old?18:22
* superfly has #3 arriving in 3.5 weeks18:24
Kilosoh my, we hold thumbs superfly  18:24
Kilosinetpro  ping18:25
superflyKilos: I'd prefer it if you didn't hold thumbs, otherwise you won't be able to do anything with your hands.18:25
captine9 months... and number 2 is arriving in feb....18:25
captinegoing to be a tough couple years....18:26
superflycaptine: woohoo! 18:26
superflycaptine: have fun while it lasts18:26
Kiloslol18:26
superflyAnyway, I gotta go. Maybe see you folks later18:26
Kilosok18:27
magespawncaptine never actually had a look, that one just seemed to do almost everything i could think necessary18:27
magespawnwow superfly, wow18:28
nuvolarinot the best time for a phone call :-/18:29
nuvolarisorry18:29
Kilosnp18:30
nuvolariMaaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting18:30
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:30
KilosMaaz  I am Miles Sharpe18:30
MaazKilos: Yessir18:30
nuvolariMaaz: announce meeting agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014082618:30
MaazAnnouncement from nuvolari! meeting agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014082618:30
magespawnMaaz I am Greg Eames18:30
Maazmagespawn: Righto18:30
nuvolariMaaz: I am18:30
Maaznuvolari: Sorry...18:30
nuvolaripfft18:31
Kiloshahaha18:31
nuvolariMaaz: I am Johan Mynhardt18:31
Maaznuvolari: Okay18:31
nuvolariWelcome everyone18:31
nuvolariand welcome to the loyal members18:31
Kiloscharl  captine  login please18:31
nuvolarilurking in here18:31
Kilossmile  ^^18:31
smilehi ;)18:32
smilemeeting? :)18:32
nuvolarithere won't be too much going on tonight18:32
nuvolariI'm sure it is a busy time for everyone18:33
nuvolaribut let it be known that we appreciate everyone's involvement18:33
nuvolarino matter how small :)18:33
nuvolariDo we have any new members?18:33
Kilosnot tonight18:33
nuvolarithat would like to step into the spotlight?18:33
nuvolariaw, ok18:34
Kilosyou okes didnt rock G+18:34
nuvolarieish18:34
Kilosand i didnt tweet18:34
nuvolariMaaz: topic welcoming and introduction18:34
MaazCurrent Topic: welcoming and introduction18:34
Kilosor post reminder in the list18:34
nuvolariContent precedes the topic18:34
* Kilos apologises18:35
nuvolarimaaz topic: Review previous minutes18:35
Maaznuvolari: Huh?18:35
nuvolariMaaz: topic: Review previous minutes18:35
Maaznuvolari: Huh?18:35
nuvolariMaaz: topic Review previous minutes18:35
MaazCurrent Topic: Review previous minutes18:35
nuvolarigosh18:35
charlMaaz: i am Charl van Niekerk18:35
Maazcharl: Alrighty18:35
nuvolariok, the previous minutes are available at http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-07-22-18-35-15.txt18:35
nuvolariIt was also a quiet meeting with a small attendance18:36
Kilosyip18:36
KilosMaaz  ping inetpro  18:37
MaazKilos: Error: unknown host inetpro18:37
Kiloslol18:37
captineMaaz: I am Bradley Putzier18:37
Maazcaptine: Righto18:37
nuvolarinot anything that I want to discuss from the last meeting18:38
nuvolarithe only things of interest is the upcoming releases and SFD18:38
nuvolariis it OK if I proceed to the next topic?18:39
Kilosyip18:39
nuvolariMaaz: topic Releases18:39
MaazCurrent Topic: Releases18:39
captineanyone been testing 14.10?18:39
nuvolariI saw my machine saying there's a 14.04.1 LTS upgrade from 12.04!18:39
captineam sticking with 14.04 at the moment.18:40
nuvolariBut I'm leaving on Friday so no use in upgrading now :P18:40
captine14.04 is running well for me.18:40
captinegot a colleague at work to replace his XP install with 14.04.  and he seems to be going well with it18:40
nuvolariI had the horror of working with unity yesterday18:40
nuvolariI felt like my hands were chopped off18:40
Kilos14.04 is quite stable18:40
captinenuvolari, lol.  I love unity.  Like Gnome 3 too.18:41
captine:)18:41
Kiloshaha nuvolari  it aint that bad18:41
magespawnand for me, had some disk thrashing issues with firefox, but otherwise good 18:41
nuvolariawesome captine! It's always good to hear of people finding alternative OS'es usable18:41
nuvolariI had a weird issue with that unity which required a restart to fix the problem: the 'g' key started appearing as a subscript h18:42
nuvolarinothing  I did would fix it :-/18:42
Kilossjoe18:42
nuvolaribut I think it was a 13.10 install18:43
nuvolarihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn is up in 2 months18:44
smilebye :p18:44
Kilossleep tight smile  18:45
nuvolarinot sure what I'll use on the new job, but I just hope they'll let me install linux18:45
nuvolarigood bye smile :)18:45
nuvolarithanks for visiting18:45
nuvolarianyone running alpha/beta versions?18:45
Kiloswhat if its all windows nuvolari  18:45
smilethanks :) 18:45
nuvolariKilos: no way, it won't be. I made sure of that!18:46
nuvolarimy foodie! peer jou nonsens!18:46
nuvolari:-/18:47
captinenew job?  I am bugging my work to let me run ubuntu.  they have terminal servers for if I need windows for any specific tools18:47
magespawni was running 14.04 as alpha until the release18:48
captinemagespawn.... living on the edge :)18:49
magespawnah was just a server i played with really18:49
nuvolaricaptine: yeah, resigned. I couldn't take it any longer18:49
charlthe alpha was actually really stable, i even ran vmware on it18:49
charlworked really well18:49
captinenice18:49
charlyou can run windows inside virtualbox/vmware too if you want18:50
nuvolariwb oom Kilos 18:50
charlor some other hypervisor, no need to run windows at work as your host os18:50
nuvolarithe show can continue18:50
Kilosoi sorry bout that18:50
charlpeer strikes again18:50
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pierwhoops, it's registered18:50
pierwonder how long I'll last18:51
pier:P18:51
charlquick, reset everybody's connection before you get reset yourself :P18:51
magespawncharl, what wiki software do you use, and is it hosted or in house?18:51
* pier resets Kilos18:51
Kilosmy stupid modem disconnected and had to be plugged in to another usb port18:52
Kilosgrrr18:52
pieroh well, you didn't miss much oom18:52
=== pier is now known as nuvolari
captineanyone got a device to try ubuntu touch on?18:52
nuvolarihmm, does it work with a Samsung Galaxy Nexus?18:53
nuvolariI'd like to try18:53
captinei bought a nexus 7 just for it, but they now support the newer model... so i need to work thru some other instructions....  18:53
nuvolarimy nexus became turtle slow 18:53
captinethe nexus phones are the reference ones, but think they moved onto the nexus 4 18:53
captinenow18:53
captinefor phone18:53
nuvolarioh boo!18:53
captinei am looking for a nexus18:53
nuvolariok, moving on18:54
nuvolariMaaz: topic Software Freedom Day18:54
MaazCurrent Topic: Software Freedom Day18:54
ThatGraemeGuyi have a Sony Galaxy iPhone18:55
nuvolariSFD will be on the 20th of September18:55
ThatGraemeGuyi think, i don't smartphone good18:55
charlmagespawn: in house, docuwiki18:55
nuvolariI've seen Karl Fisher's been trying to get some people to talk in GP?18:55
nuvolarinot sure how well that went18:55
nuvolarior whether he got responses18:55
charlGP ?18:56
magespawnty charl18:56
nuvolari http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/18:56
magespawnGauteng18:56
nuvolaricharl: Gauteng18:56
charlah :)18:56
nuvolarinot sure where he is exactly (Joburg/Pretora)18:56
charlsorry slightly OT but i haven't spoken to karl fischer in years, is he still on irc18:57
nuvolariI don't think so18:58
nuvolariI can't remember his nick :-/18:58
charldon't either actually18:58
charlkmf that was him18:59
charl(i think)19:00
magespawnyup kmf, fairly active on twitter and g+19:00
nuvolariyes!19:00
captinei have already told my wife that I am heading to pretoria for sfs on 20th19:01
nuvolariI'll find one in CT19:01
nuvolarianyone know of events in CT?19:01
captinethink obsidian and some others are talking.  not sure it is very big event, but keen still19:01
Kiloscaptine  from korea?19:01
captinekorea?19:01
charlno man that19:01
Kilosor i got you mixed up now19:01
charlthat's somebody else19:01
charlsorry hit enter by mistake19:01
Kilossjoe19:01
charlthat's cantide19:02
charlMaaz: seen cantide19:02
Maazcharl: cantide was last seen 12 hours, 26 minutes and 32 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-08-25 23:35:50 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-08-25 23:48:41 PDT19:02
captinelol.  i used to live in Philippines, but back in SA since june last year19:02
Kilosaha19:02
Kiloscaptine  cantide close enough19:03
Kilosty charl  19:03
charl:)19:03
nuvolarimeh, moving on19:04
nuvolariMaaz: tech19:04
Maaznuvolari: *blink*19:04
nuvolarier19:05
captinelol19:05
nuvolariMaaz: topic Tech - new technologies based on FOSS19:05
MaazCurrent Topic: Tech - new technologies based on FOSS19:05
captinekorea pretty close to Philippines, so all good19:05
nuvolariAnything cool from you guys?19:05
nuvolariMy life's been pretty dull. I apologise19:05
KilosLOL19:06
captinehttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1561203377/the-stack-box-a-smart-home-controller?ref=nav_search19:06
* nuvolari gets lol'ed at19:06
nuvolari:'(19:06
captineanyone watch linuxactionshow?  they have a "runs Linux' section19:06
captineevery week19:06
captineand a reddit page which is pretty informative.19:07
captinehttp://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxActionShow/19:07
charlfirst thing caught my attention "VMware Embraces Docker Container Virtualization"19:09
charlanyone here using docker19:09
captinecharl, i have been playing with it on a vm and on my laptop, but not an expert.19:09
captinefor some reason, still like a full VM.  just need to learn the commands19:10
nuvolariooh, pretty neat captine, that stack-box19:10
captineand figure out how to get the networking bridged for running a database server in a container19:10
captinenuvolari, it sure looks good.19:11
captinecharl, you tried it?19:11
charli've only been looking at it19:12
charli'm not yet using it19:12
captinei am waiting to get some old servers from work, cos at the moment running all on VM's on my mini is a struggle... want to get a proxmox server running to make playing easier19:13
captinejuju is also supporting docker for orchestration i think which is cool19:14
nuvolariOk, moving on19:15
nuvolariMaaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting19:15
MaazCurrent Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting19:15
* nuvolari will be available19:16
Kilosnuvolari  +19:16
nuvolarianyone is welcome to chair 19:16
Kilos++ as well19:16
Kilosnuvolari  the job is yours19:17
magespawnindeed19:17
nuvolariwell, it's only you and me that's left oom Kilos :P19:17
nuvolarioh and magespawn heh19:17
Kiloshehe19:17
nuvolariwe'll keep each other company19:17
Kiloswe need to try revive things i think19:18
nuvolariMaaz: agreed chair for next meeting: Nuvolari19:18
MaazAgreed: chair for next meeting: Nuvolari19:18
nuvolariMaaz: topic Next Meeting Date19:18
MaazCurrent Topic: Next Meeting Date19:18
Kilosa flame war or two might rock the boat a bit19:18
nuvolarithe next meeting date is on the 23rd of September19:18
nuvolariand... I've created a page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014092319:19
nuvolariMaaz: forget about meeting.agenda19:19
Maaznuvolari: I didn't know about about meeting.agenda anyway19:19
nuvolariMaaz: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014092319:19
Maaznuvolari: I already know stuff about meeting.agenda19:19
nuvolariMaaz: forget meeting.agenda19:19
Maaznuvolari: Righto19:19
nuvolariMaaz: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014092319:19
Maaznuvolari: One learns a new thing every day19:19
nuvolarithe next meeting after that will be the 28th of October19:20
captinethis maaz thing is pretty cool.  didnt spend much time on irc in my youth, but find it pretty amazing....19:20
captinesimple things... :)19:20
nuvolaribut let's not get ahead of ourselves19:20
nuvolariyeah19:21
nuvolaribots can be pretty helpful19:21
Kiloscaptine  its a python bot you can find in the repos19:21
Kilosibid19:21
nuvolariMaaz: expand http://bit.ly/MCOujZ19:21
Maaznuvolari: That expands to: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za19:21
nuvolarimaaz topic19:22
Maaznuvolari: Sorry...19:22
nuvolarimaaz: topic19:22
Maaznuvolari: Excuse me?19:22
nuvolariMaaz: what is the current topic?19:22
Maaznuvolari: I'm afraid I have no idea19:22
nuvolariuseless19:22
Kiloslol19:22
Kilossurely closing19:22
nuvolariMaaz: topic Closing19:22
MaazCurrent Topic: Closing19:22
nuvolariThank you everyone for attending19:22
Kilosnuvolari  thansk for chairing for us19:23
nuvolarialthough where running dry, we're not entirely stalling19:23
Kilosthanks as well19:23
nuvolariyou're welcome :)19:23
nuvolariTrying to play my little part19:23
nuvolariI hope everyone will have a nice evening19:23
nuvolariand that we all will try to help with some more activity at the next meeting 19:24
nuvolari...19:24
charlthanks nuvolari you too19:24
Kilosim about ready for bed, its kinda cold here19:24
nuvolari*cough* *nudge nudge*19:24
charllol19:24
nuvolariMaaz: end meeting19:24
MaazMeeting Ended19:24
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Kiloscharl  try find out more about the internet over power lines if you bored19:25
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:26
Kilossee ya tomorrow19:26
nuvolarijust like that19:28
nuvolarinight oom kilos19:28
nuvolarilong day tomorrow...19:28
nuvolario/ night19:28
captinenight19:30
magespawngood night Kerbero 19:30
magespawnwhoops19:30
captinelol19:30
magespawngood night Kilos19:30
magespawntoo late anyway19:30
magespawni am also out of here. good night all20:07

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