[00:43] <ScottK> Riddelll: I'm running from perlkde.
[06:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:30] <apachelogger> Riddelll: since when do we actively track bugs?
[08:43] <Riddelll> apachelogger: only the next PPAs have arm cos shadeslayer asked for it
[08:51] <apachelogger> ah
[08:51] <apachelogger> Riddelll, shadeslayer: could someone please send a mail about that to the list :P
[08:58] <kdeuser56> whats the problem with debugging stuff on kubuntu-plasma5? whenever a crash happens dr konqi shows nothing despite me installing many debug symbols
[09:28] <Riddell> ScottK: remember bug 1353973 for SRU
[09:28] <Riddell> or MRE or whatever it's called
[09:28] <kdeuser56> Riddell: is it just me or does drkonqi not really work on the kubuntu-plasma5 image?
[09:30] <Riddell> kdeuser56: I've not tried thus far, maybe apachelogger has with his porting of kubuntu-debug-installer
[09:30] <kdeuser56> Riddell: I installed tons of debug symbols and it still does not show a useful trace
[09:30] <kdeuser56> Riddell: if you wanna try you know the kill -s SIGSEGV $(pidof <application-name>) trick, right?
[09:30] <Riddell> ok I'll try it later when doing the beta 1 tests
[09:30] <Riddell> yeah I know :)
[09:31] <kdeuser56> Riddell: what kubuntu-debug installer is he porting? you mean the apport patches?
[09:31] <apachelogger> drkonqi is kaput
[09:31] <apachelogger> that's why
[09:31] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: I have ported the apport patches
[09:31] <apachelogger> also there was an upstream bug in 5.0.1 that rendered stacks broken AFAIK
[09:32] <Riddell> is it kaput? that's a bad thing to be
[09:33] <apachelogger> was repaired
[09:33] <apachelogger> I think
[09:34] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: I only have one problem leftwith kubuntu_drkonqi_whoopsie_integration.patch: it does not create the dr.konqi accept file, so something broke :-(
[09:35] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: although the diff did not apply anymore not much has changed. I manaully applied the diff, changed kdebug to qdebug and it compiled
[09:36] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: new diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157817/
[09:37] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: and that would be the one for kcrash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157820/
[09:38] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: both compile, second works as expected, first not yet, I'll have a look again, in the next hours
[09:41] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: to be more precise, it seems like only the if in the destructor does not seem to work in http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157817/
[09:43] <apachelogger> well, the destructor thing is a bit of an ugly hack anyway :P
[09:43] <Riddell> ScottK: and also a gstreamer backend on bug 1358312
[09:43] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: yeah, but where else to put it? after the close button has been pressed it should be invoked
[09:45] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: and all the other buttons like restart etc. so the destructor does not seem that ugly ...
[09:45] <Riddell> sgclark: did you do any ISO tests?
[09:45] <sgclark> yeah
[09:45] <Riddell> oh yes you marked it as fail :)
[09:45] <sgclark> I did. Power management is a game breaker for me
[09:51] <apachelogger> kdeuser56: one option would be: have a q_global_static qobject and connect it to the checked signal of the checkbox, write data in its dtor
[09:52] <apachelogger> the problem with doing it in the dialog's dtor is that the patch doesn't have scope control, or all the patch knows s_whoopsieCheckBox might have been deleted by then already because of qobject parenting
[09:58] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: and the whoopsie/apport upload process really starts as soon as the accept file is created? does not sound logical to me
[10:01] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: oh nevermind
[10:01] <apachelogger> no
[10:01] <apachelogger> apport starts as soon as the signal is re-raised by kcrash
[10:02] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: yeah, i know ... sorry do not knwo what I've benn thinken
[10:16] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion kdevelop 4.7.0
[10:16] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362107
[10:20] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion wacomtablet 2.1.0beta1
[10:20] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362111
[10:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: alive?
[10:56] <shadeslayer> Yea
[10:56] <shadeslayer> Meet you in 20 mins for lunch?
[10:57] <Riddell> okay dokay
[10:58] <Riddell> no plans for lunch as yes, I'm in favour of buying a bagette and making some sandwiches
[10:58] <shadeslayer> Ah :p
[10:58] <Riddell> cos that's what we used to have to do back in the getto where I grew up
[10:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: OK then I will head into the office, be there in 20
[11:11] <soee> there is new section available in System Settings -> Display Cofiguration that should allow configure monitors etc i think.
[11:12] <soee> but if we enter there we hane only The shared library was not found.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:32] <Riddell> soee: ah something is up with kscreen in plasma 5 I guess
[11:32] <soee> hi BluesKaj
[11:32] <soee> Riddell: ok good to know its not me only
[11:33] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[11:36] <sgclark> Riddell: that ISO using the frameworks kscreen?
[11:36] <Riddell> sgclark: should be yes, Ihave not checked yet
[11:37] <Riddell> yes it will be or it would not be shown at all
[11:37] <sgclark> Riddell: ok I will take a look to make sure it is not the packaging
[11:37] <Riddell> but why it doesnt want to load it I dont know
[11:37] <sgclark> Any clues on the power manangement?
[11:38] <Riddell> also not had a chance to look
[11:38] <Riddell> some issue upstream I suspect but it may be an issue only exposed on kubuntu
[11:38] <BluesKaj> in the plasma5 daily, copy and paste doesn't work unless the source file is left open
[11:43] <yofel> sounds like klipper isn't running
[11:43] <BluesKaj> but that will probly be solved soon ... too lazy to file a bug atm since it's not real serious
[11:43] <BluesKaj> yofel, let me check 
[11:46] <BluesKaj> had to check the desktop pc and klipper is running 
[11:47] <yofel> then it's not working :/
[11:51] <BluesKaj> and the virtual desktops aren't accepting different backgrounds/wallpapers...I remember a similar problem early in 14.10 plasma 4 which eventually was corrected without filing a bug 
[12:28] <BluesKaj> running plasma 5 daily on the desktop since it's just a media sever and seems to do it's job ok atm ..plasma 5 on this laptop is still too frustrating 
[12:31] <sgclark> not sure what the deal is with kscreen, nothing jumping out at me in build log. all depends satisfied. Lintian good and no missing. Think I will try a new snapshot..
[12:33] <sgclark> blech nothing new.
[12:34] <Riddell> sgclark: does it run standalone_
[12:35] <Riddell> kcmshell5 kscreen ¿
[12:35] <Riddell> ...spanish keyboards are fun
[12:36] <sgclark> Riddell: nope... missing shared library. lemme strace.
[12:36] <Riddell> "Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel." yay rdieter still loves us... wait, hes a fedora spy¡
[12:39] <Riddell> sgclark: I think it also claims missing even if it just cant load the plugin for whatever reason
[12:39] <rdieter> double blind spy worm mole
[12:39] <Riddell> e.g. if its binary incompatible
[12:39] <sgclark> Riddell: ok very strange, I saw ENOENT (No such file or directory)  on files I know were in package so I reinstalled wih my local build deb and viola it works.. I changed nothing
[12:40] <sgclark> somehow files are missing on what was uploaded
[12:41] <Riddell> apt'get install ''reinstall
[12:41] <Riddell> fixing ' for dashes
[12:41] <Riddell> dpkg 'L kscreen
[12:41] <Riddell> lists all the files
[12:41] <Riddell> maybe thereś a .install file gone missing somewhere
[12:42] <sgclark> I used the debain from bzr
[12:44] <sgclark> Riddell: the paths are wrong in the next PPA, did it get built with the wrong ECM? then a rebuild outta fix it
[12:46] <sgclark> .I think that is the problem. There was an ECM that broke lots of stuff 
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119901/
[12:53] <Riddell> sgclark: ooh that could be the case
[12:53] <Riddell> sgclark: can you upload it to next'staging again_
[12:54] <sgclark> yeah
[12:54] <sgclark> I wonder if maybe powerdevil got the same bug
[12:55] <Riddell> possibly but it has a separate error
[12:55] <Riddell> worth trying
[12:55] <soee> so thsi can fix the kscreen problem ?
[12:55] <sgclark> yes
[12:55] <soee> btw what is ECM ?
[12:56] <sgclark> extra-cmake-modules
[12:58] <soee> oh, thakn you
[12:59] <Riddell> "Install Plugins and Qt5 Imports to the Qt5 install dir" → "Install Qt Plugins, Imports and QMake mkspecs to the Qt install dir"
[13:01] <Riddell> soee: cmake modules from KDE Frameworks
[13:09] <sgclark> unfortuantely it looks like powerdevil plugins are in the correct place
[14:03] <soee> kscreen works now, though connecting TV through hdmi makes plasmashell crash, laso on the display list hdmi is listed twice not sure why
[14:09] <soee> can i chnage phonon backend from cli ?
[14:23] <Riddell> hmm so the plasma5 image is a bit broken :(
[14:23] <Riddell> no ubiquity-dm
[14:23] <Riddell> then weird permissions issues connecting to the network
[14:23] <Riddell> and running ubiquity
[14:24] <Riddell> we have the same problem with non-english keyboards as we had in the alphas
[14:25] <Riddell> and the syslinux menu has the weird back option still and can't boot OEM but then it is broken for other flavours too
[14:25] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:25] <shadeslayer> known issue that
[14:25] <shadeslayer> bug colin
[14:26] <shadeslayer> whoa
[14:26] <shadeslayer> I have systemd
[14:26] <shadeslayer> in my dmesg
[14:26] <shadeslayer> or well
[14:26] <shadeslayer> my dmesg is colored
[14:26] <shadeslayer> and what not
[14:26] <shadeslayer> fancy
[14:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity/plasma5/+merge/228528
[15:31] <shadeslayer> oh oh oh
[15:31] <shadeslayer> im-config pulling in zenity
[15:31] <shadeslayer> why
[15:31] <shadeslayer> why on why
[15:31] <Riddell> it likes to do that
[15:31] <Riddell> I've removed it more than once in the past I'm sure but eventually one loses the will
[15:32] <shadeslayer> plasma 5 has mir because of that
[15:32] <Riddell> umm
[15:32] <Riddell> why does zenity need mir?
[15:32] <Riddell> infact why does anything need mir
[15:33] <shadeslayer> zenity needs libgtk3-0 which depends on libmirclient
[15:34] <Riddell> mm
[15:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what
[15:56] <apachelogger> I sent a patch to the debian maintainer
[15:56] <apachelogger> to do kdialog and shit
[16:00] <shadeslayer> to what
[16:00] <shadeslayer> what
[16:00] <shadeslayer> ENOCONTEXT
[16:00] <apachelogger> im-config needing zenity
[16:00] <apachelogger> ohohoh
[16:00] <apachelogger> I think the im-config dep might need adjusting
[16:01] <apachelogger> because like, the package where kdialog lives is different
[16:01] <apachelogger> or does kdialog live in baseapps
[16:01] <apachelogger> !find kdialog
[16:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: we seeding baseapps-bin?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> ah hm I see
[16:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no
[16:02] <shadeslayer> which is why we end up with libmir
[16:03] <apachelogger> polish that turd!
[16:04] <shadeslayer> such long emails
[16:04] <apachelogger> and here I thought I held back
[16:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mind adding kde-baseapps-bin to the seed ^^
[16:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pft
[16:06] <Riddell> shadeslayer: plasma5 seed?
[16:06] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:08]  * Riddell makes it sew
[18:08] <genii> Did kubotu always do that?
[18:08] <yofel> not really, was added recently
[18:08] <genii> Ah, OK
[18:10] <apachelogger> clearly a contender for best bot on freenode
[18:19] <lordievader> Good evening.
[18:37] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: okay I just looked at the patches again: both patches are working, the only problem is, the destructor does not get called when pressing the close button in the application
[18:37] <apachelogger> space ships
[18:37] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: the close button in the titlebar works fine though
[18:37] <apachelogger> kdeuser56: that seems silly
[18:38] <apachelogger> but yeah, if one were to not do stuff in the dtor but rather in a global static that would not be a problem 
[18:38] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: yeah it is silly
[18:38] <apachelogger> the static would get cleaned through the exit_handler so it always gets destructed
[18:38] <apachelogger> kdeuser56: I suspect there's is a parenting problem somewhere actually
[18:39] <apachelogger> which also should be resolved as that is a theoretical leak if the scope of the dialog is changed to be smaller than the application scope
[18:40] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: it seems to have happened by porting from KDialog
[18:42] <apachelogger> I blame shadeslayer
[18:42] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: what for?
[18:42] <apachelogger> he's drkonqi maintainer don't you know ;)
[18:43] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: yeah but not calling the destructor is an upstream but as it would not save the window size ...
[18:43] <kdeuser56> *bug
[18:44] <shadeslayer> wat
[18:44] <apachelogger> I doubt anyone cares about drkonqi window size :P
[18:44] <shadeslayer> I am not
[18:44] <apachelogger> it's not like you can play HD prn in there
[18:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you moved it across repos, that makes you 300% more the maintainer than anyone else :P
[18:55] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: could we simply package the diffs and try to fix the destructor not being called or is that a nogo?
[18:56] <kdeuser56> *later
[18:58] <apachelogger> kdeuser56: if it is non-functional what is the point of packaging it
[18:58] <apachelogger> actuaaaaaaaaaaaally I was thinking about upstreaming the patches
[18:58] <apachelogger> at least the kcrash one
[19:00] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: it is functional, but not for the close button in the application
[19:00] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: so 50% ;-)
[19:01] <apachelogger> that's half broken then :P
[19:09] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: perfectionist :-)
[19:12] <apachelogger> kdeuser56: nono, the perfectionist in me says that it is a 100% broken because there is no formal test saying otherwise (:
[19:12] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: true ^^ 
[21:25] <shadeslayer> hurray
[21:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ubiquity-dm starts now
[21:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: but no background
[21:25] <shadeslayer> ok shit
[21:25] <shadeslayer> something broke
[21:27] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I broke it too much I think
[21:28] <apachelogger> lol
[21:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: wallpaper is likely because ubiquity wallpaper loading is shit and depends on the weird kde-wallpaper link we introduces as a workaround for shit being shit
[21:29] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:29] <shadeslayer> so basically
[21:29] <shadeslayer> ubiquity-dm does not play nice with sddm
[21:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how's that?
[21:29] <apachelogger> there's no interaction supposed to be is there?
[21:29] <shadeslayer> clicking on Try Kubuntu leads to a loop
[21:29] <shadeslayer> idk why, but you never see the desktop after hitting try Kubuntu
[21:29] <shadeslayer> launches ubiquity-dm after 2 minutes
[21:30] <shadeslayer> atleast sddm doesn't come up with text now
[21:34] <shadeslayer> anyway, something to look forward to tomorrow morning
[21:35] <shadeslayer> because my head hurts so bad right now :/
[21:35] <apachelogger> kubotu: order painkiller for shadeslayer
[21:35]  * kubotu slides awesome pain killing painkillers down the bar to shadeslayer. Good ride!
[21:35] <shadeslayer> I took some asprin
[21:35] <shadeslayer> thx kubotu
[21:36] <apachelogger> Oo
[21:36]  * shadeslayer takes a painkiller and washes it down with whiskey
[21:36] <apachelogger> you misspelled whisky again
[21:36] <apachelogger> btw, just sayin
[21:37] <shadeslayer> brr
[21:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^ look look look what your coworker did
[21:37] <apachelogger> the outrage
[21:37] <shadeslayer> scotch was so much easier
[21:37]  * apachelogger falls off chair
[22:18] <valorie> uhoh, shadeslayer still sick?
[22:18] <valorie> :(
[22:18] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[22:18]  * valorie helps apachelogger up from the floor
[22:20] <apachelogger> valorie: thank you :)
[22:51] <shadeslayer> valorie: somewhat, damn cough won't go away
[22:52] <shadeslayer> Though I am to blame for it partly
[22:53]  * valorie dccs some chicken soup
[22:53] <valorie> with garlic
[22:53] <shadeslayer> <- vegetarian
[22:54] <shadeslayer> I should ask Riddell 's gf for a home made remedy
[22:54] <yofel> garlic still applies ^^
[22:54] <shadeslayer> Yeah
[22:54] <shadeslayer> Gargling with Warm salted water provides some respite though
[22:55] <shadeslayer> And I have been popping strepsils like candies
[22:57]  * valorie changes the recipe to vegetable broth
[22:58] <shadeslayer> Mmm soup
[22:59] <valorie> bit hot for that here
[22:59] <valorie> you can have it all
[23:10] <apachelogger> brrr
[23:10] <apachelogger> soup
[23:10] <apachelogger> what's this, eat a drink?
[23:11]  * apachelogger would like to have a bloody marry for dinner plz :O
[23:17] <valorie> there is cold soup too!
[23:17] <valorie> really, tomato juice is as thick as some soup
[23:17] <valorie> and a bloody mary even has a stick of celery!
[23:18] <valorie> kubotu: order bloody mary for apachelogger
[23:18]  * kubotu adds a dashes of Worcestershire Sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper into a highball glass, pours 4.5 cl Vodka, 9 cl Tomato juice, 1.5 cl Lemon juice and ice cubes in the highball, stirs gently, garnishes with Celery Salt and lemon wedge and slides the cocktail down the bar to apachelogger. Voilà your Bloody Mary.... muhahahahah :P
[23:18] <valorie> woah, so detailed
[23:23]  * valorie installs neon5 on the netbook to see how it runs on an atom
[23:25] <apachelogger> valorie: as I said ealier, kubotu  clearly is a contender for best bot on freenode ;)
[23:27] <valorie> I fully agree